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Jul 11 2003 01:14, Fri ktan   Link
All feeds in BY with Scott teaching Erika how to shoot hoops. Dave's joined them. NT

Jul 11 2003 01:22, Fri Phantom   Link
Still in the HOH. Everyone wants Amanda gone (except Scott).
Scott to be put up next week. Probably Michelle up against Amanda if POV saves her. Nat worrying about the speeches he has to give (like to explain Nominations). Chit chat and FOTFH.

It's going to get crazy, says Nat. They all giggle then get quiet. Apparently POV to be used on Sunday so they have to leave it till then to figure what to do, but of course, they can't leave it at all. Dana leaves and the camera leaves for the yard where Erica is letting Scott teach her how to shoot baskets. (Does she really not know?) Scott explains that you have to line up your crotch with the basket. It's all in the legs and the crotch it seems. Now explaining about the feel of the ball.

Thankfully, the camera goes back to the HOH where the lights are on and Nat is still in bed with Alison. It seems that Robert has joined them. He is talking fast about Erica and her saying that Robert is only there because of her. He knows that she cannot win the game so he isn't worried about that, he just doesn't want her to last longer than him. She is a psycho chick, he says. He seems hyper and fidgety and reminds me of Josh from last year when he was really working someone. He keeps looking up at a camera and says he doesn't want this shown because he never wants her to know that he is talking about her. Says that she bitched on Jee today about his not cleaning up the hair well enough. That's the real Erica, he says. He is very grateful that they agree to put her up. He will work full out to get her out. He wants it to be a lopsided vote against her. Scott had her have got to go, they all agree. Alison says that Scott is easy on the eyes and Nat says that she can go sleep with him then. She laughs and says that she is sleeping there and will vote against Scott anyway.

Robert leaves and turns out the lights. They giggle and flirt but don't discuss the Robert revelations. The camera moves to the kitchen where Jack is talking to Jun and consoling her that she is caught in there with Jee. Sound stays on Jack while the camera moves to the back bedrooms. Michelle talks to Jun and wants to know if she talked to Jack about something. It doesn't seem so, but is unclear.
Camera and sound to LR where Michelle suggests playing Spoons with the group assembled there. She has never played it as a drinking game but tries to explain the rules. Many seem to know it. Many are there but I didn't have time to catch them all before the camera moves back to they yard where the Bball lesson continues. They are now actually shooting baskets and no longer talking about crotches. David joins them and shoots baskets while wearing oven mitts. They say that Scott and David are sure Nominees but it doesn't matter because they have the numbers. David is confident and expects it because he is such a threat.

Jul 11 2003 01:26, Fri ktan   Link
F3/4: A game of spoons in progress in the LR with J/JS/M/AM/JN/RO playing (E/S watching) but only hearing N and AL in HOH. NT

Jul 11 2003 01:39, Fri Phantom   Link
F1 & 2 in HOH with Nat and Alison cuddling and giggling in the bed in the dark.
F3 & 4 in the LR where the spoons games continues. Seven are present, but one just wandered off toward the bath.

Alison has had 5 lovers and Nat jokes that he could never marry her because of that number. "Who's talking about marriage," says Alison. She asks Nat how many he has. He hesitates but puts the pillow over both their heads and tells her something. She doesn't believe that. She is little-girl whining because he won't tell her. He threatens her with Nomination for playing her games on him. He has suggested a couple of numbers but not given a clear answer. The lovey-dovey chit chat is getting thick.

TG that F1 & 2 go to the bathroom where Dana and David chat. She seems upset about how much time and attention that he seems to spend on Michelle I think (some other female). They discuss that it is good that Nat stuck with the plan, although they suspected that he was tempted to change things. They don't feel that they can fully trust him, but think he is OK for now. Dana wants to know if he will visit her when she gets HOH. He says that he will live in the HOH then. She likes that. They talk about his Honourable Discharge from the Army and he seems to down play the details. She is asking for details of types of discharge and he glosses over Dishonourable as an option. He just sums it up as time served but says that he can be recalled if the $hit hits the fan. Real Player crash.

Jul 11 2003 01:40, Fri Anonymous ParentRootLink
Dana was talking about her brothers leave from the army not Davids NT

Jul 11 2003 02:08, Fri Phantom ParentRootLink
OK, then he was using himself as the example for his explanation,
because he definitely talked of his time served and him possibly being called up in case of trouble.

Jul 11 2003 03:15, Fri LittleOldLady ParentRootLink
Also note, Alison kissed Nat on the shoulder, quite audible peck, as she was running fingers down his back. NT

Jul 11 2003 01:45, Fri ktan   Link
AL slowly caressing N's back with hand, talking randomly but nothing earth-shattering. NT

Jul 11 2003 02:05, Fri Phantom   Link
Back in the HOH. Alison is caressing Nat's bare back as they cuddle and talk.
She wants to know if they have asked about her in the DR. He says yes and that he told them something to the effect that he should bag her in 3 days. She takes exception to that in a happy way "I'm not that easy, you know"

Still F1 & 2 on the HOH and F3 & 4 on the LR with the card game. Amanda, Jack, Erica, Robert, Jun, Justin, Michelle, David, Dana. Jee comes in, David drifts out. F3 has the card game but sound from the HOH, where they are talking about people they like.

Now to Blue Grotto where Scott is in bed and talking to David. Scott wants to know if Nat would let him use the POV if he gets it and who he would put up if he does. They don't know but think that they can wait to see who gets it. Scott can't wait and gets up to go ask Nat.

Finally get to HOH where Scott is talking to Alison, Dana and Nat. Don't know what the answer to his question is. The sound is terrible, but it seems that the POV question being discussed now is who puts up the replacement and when. There is some agreement that a certain unnamed person would be the perfect substitute if it was used. Scott seems to say that he isn't worried about Amanda because she is a strong woman. The group seems to think that they don't want to get HOH next week. Let someone else do some dirty work.

Scott has left and the lights are out. The three are talking about the POV and the idea that Jee might be taken off. The sound is terrible and they are whispering. Dana says, "Why would I take off Jee?" From what I can gather, they are counting a lot of chickens here and planning a long way ahead. If Scott takes out Justin or David would end their deal with someone then they are home free. Talking about saving Michelle for some reason. This is pointless. I need earphones and better feeds. Sound improves enough to hear them all agree that this year, POV is the key. Hmmmmm

Jul 11 2003 02:11, Fri Phantom   Link
Erica remarked about, "now you can see why I wear my sunglasses in here, because it is so bright in here."
"And our room is very dark," she says. Not sure who she was talking to because the feeds are frozen. At the moment, Erica does not have on sunglasses.

Jul 11 2003 02:23, Fri buffalojill   Link
1:30 am and Dana is jogging inside the house? NT

Jul 11 2003 02:31, Fri Phantom   Link
Erica, David and Jack in the bath having a stimulating discussion of STD's.
David things that Syphilis is the most common STD and asks Jack to confirm; he will know that. David also thinks that Syphilis is called the Clap but isn't sure. Jack confirms that Syphilis is the most common and is called the Clap. However, he has no answer to Erica's question as to why it is called that. Jack wanders away and David commences to make strange and wonderful and annoying noises with his mouth and cheeks. They are as bored as me, but unlike me, they don't have the sense to go to bed.

Apparently they do. Erica, Jack and David go to bed in the Sand Box. They talk strategy and apparently agree on the same things and are speaking in terms of the original 8. They are trying to bring David up to date on the current alliances. He is lecturing them on strategy and they let him.

Dana was jogging around the house from the back bedroom to the bathroom carrying little barbells. Noting else is visible on the feeds.

Before I could get out of this, there was a mention of Nat being solid behind the 8, and that they don't want either Jee or Amanda to win POV because that will screw up things. Erica whispers some intelligence about who someone will put up for Nomination and they all agree that 'they' have to win HOH next.

Jul 11 2003 02:47, Fri ktan   Link
Feeds 3/4 have seemingly retired for the day. 3 focussed on water dispenser and BY door, 4 on HOH, SR, & DR doors.HGs pass by but cams don't move. NT

Jul 11 2003 03:51, Fri Devareux   Link
2:20 - 2:45 Convo between David,Jack, & Erika in (turtle ?) bedroom. The 3 desire to keep their alliance of 4 strong....David,Jack & Erika & Scott.
Exs gone first and then Erika says they need to knock the “king” off the throne, aka Nate. General Stategy talk and talk about sexual tension. Jack & Erika trying to sleep, David makes popping noises, they start to talk again. Jack says he almost got “Tweetie Bird” tattoo on his “behind” but daughters talked him out of it. David says he will have shark tattooed on his shoulder if brother does not return from Irac.Jack assures him he will return, David isn’t sure...(I get bumped from feeds)

Jul 11 2003 04:43, Fri TomGuy   Link
3:30 -5:00 a.m. CDT
3:30 a.m. CDT

Alliance: Erika, Jack, David, Scott.

Erika said she has warned Scott to tone down or he will be a target.

They think their major competition is 4 persons -- possible alliance there: Nate, maybe Alison, Justin, Robert. Justin bigger threat than Robert. Jack says the more he gets to know Nate the more impressed he is with him; that Nate has core beliefs.

Erika to Scott: "YOU NEED to chill out!"

Jack: Tomorrow is important, but not crucial. (POV ?)

Jack: One of the alliance will need to go on the block when they get ready (HOH) to take down Michelle.

Jack trying to figure whether the major competitive alliance is Nate and the other 3 women, or the other guys.

(This alliance seems to perceive 2 other alliances of about 4 each. Nate seems to be associated with both alliances, but more with the 3 women --Alison, Dana, Jun.)

Jack is cautioning Scott and Erika against the 4 of them (J, S, E, David) appearing to be "together" when they are out in the house/yard.

(David left the room when Scott came in, so he was not present during most of the above plotting. Per Jack, David is aware/part of the alliance, though.)

3:55 a.m. CDT. Scott leaves the room to go to his bed. David comes back into the bedroom. (David was apparently in the shower.)

David: His girlfriends think he is such a "girl" because he puts lotion on, etc. (David exits room again.)




David - outside the door - asks Jack & Erika to talk in normal voices to test whether they can be heard outside. (Apparently they can't be heard outside the room. RPlayer communicating--I missed some conversation. RP stalled.)
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Other camera:
Justin, looks like Michelle or Alison (can't tell them apart) nearly on top of his back. He seems to be trying to igore her.




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Looks like Jack, Erika, David settling

Erika "platituding" Jack and David, saying she is glad to be in with them; they are nice guys, yadayadayada.

Dana comes in, chitchats. David wants some "sugar" so Dana goes over and gives him a major smooching.

Dana saying she thinks that--to respect HOH--they (Dana, Erika, Jack, David) should not use POV is they win it.

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Other camera:
Justin, looks like Michelle or Alison (I can't tell them apart on the nitevision) nearly on top of his back. He seems to be trying to igore her.

M /A sitting on other bed, looking alone and dejected.
(camera to difference scene)
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E, J, Dv, Dn making smalltalk. Dana leaves about 4:20 a.m. CDT.

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Jee on single cot/bed, alone, still awake.

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M/A still awake, still on top of Justin (who appears to be asleep--or trying to be). It looks like she is holding him down, afraid he might get away from her. (It is kind of funny to watch.) M/A is whispering to someone in other bed (can only see sheet moving, no body/face, so no idea who.)

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E, J, Dv still making smalltalk.

Jee still awake; wrapping his ankle/foot. (He hurt/twisted it yesterday while shooting hoops.)

M/A looking around the room; seems to be whispering to someone; still using Justin as a mattress (he hasn't moved; sleep--or trying to be).

Erika just gave BB/camera the finger--jokingly: "Take that, BB!"

David, making "water dripping" sounds with his finger in his mouth.

Erika wonders why Dana came into the room earlier.

David talking about the time his brother accidentally ran over him with a boat, prop nicked his head, left scar.

Jack talking about TweetyBird tatoo on rear. (Not sure if he meant he had one or knew someone who did.)

David has a brother in military who is in Iraq.

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4:43 a.m. CDT M/A finally gets up off Justin, walks out; to w/c.

She gets under cover with Justin.

She get up after 10 minutes. Looks like she got in another (bigger) bed (can't tell who with). (Justin seemed to keep ignoring her presence.)

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4:50 a.m. CDT Jack and David still chitchatting.

Camera on Nate in HOH--sleeping, alone.

Jack to w/c. Out of w/c; stops to wash hands.

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All the little rats, uh, hamsters, appear to be nestled in for the nite. Not a creature is stirring, not even a mouse, except maybe the cameraman.

No major snoring. Silence. No motion in any of the beds on the quadscreen.

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Jul 11 2003 05:07, Fri Shadow46and2 ParentRootLink
Clarification: Jack was going to get Tweety on his butt, daughter talked him out of it. NT

Jul 11 2003 10:14, Fri Anonymous ParentRootLink
It was Alison on top of Ju, then she got in bed with Michelle NT

Jul 11 2003 05:01, Fri Quench   Link
4am BB time - All 4 Feeds on sleeping HGs. NT

Jul 11 2003 08:40, Fri Houseguest13   Link
Jun is up and back to bed 7:38 AM BB time NT

Jul 11 2003 09:06, Fri Houseguest13   Link
We have Jack up on Feed 1 in the WC NT

Jul 11 2003 09:11, Fri valentine   Link
Jack
OK. That was gross. Jack got up and went straight to the WC. He was in there a long time and flushed TWICE. When he came out he walked right past the sink, barely glancing at it and returning to the bedroom without washing.

Maybe men over a certain age are just dirty slobs.

Jul 11 2003 09:34, Fri valentine   Link
Waking Up
Jack was laying in his patented coffin pose. I think he does this when he is pretending to be sleeping, because all of a sudden he sits upright, with his hands still crossed on his chest. Whisper, whisper, I can't hear. He still has on David's Pittsburgh T-shirt from last night. He must have some major insecurities with his hair, because he starts smoothing it while he whispers.

Maybe he's talking in his sleep.

And then, someone else stirs in the room and gets out of bed. Its Erica, in her pink sweatpants, walking in the direction of the kitchen. And, of course, the lazy cameramen don't follow her.

So all we see is the sleeping HG.

Wake up camera people.

Jul 11 2003 10:06, Fri valentine   Link
Still No Sign of Erica
All 4 feeds are still locked on the non-HOH bedrooms. Camoflage-blanket David has his own camera.

We know Erica has been up and about for over 30 minutes, but no sign of her on the feeds.

Jack is still laying in coffin pose.

Jul 11 2003 10:56, Fri Lola   Link
Jun is up, she dressed in a burgundy top and slacks, walking through house NT

Jul 11 2003 10:57, Fri Ginger   Link
one of the firls up to the kitchen and then the bathroom- not sure who- long dark hair NT

Jul 11 2003 10:58, Fri mkemp   Link
Jun just got out of bed , walked into LR, the shades are all pulled down,
she tried to peek out, walked away, walked back to the door, tried to peek through shades again then went to WC.

Jul 11 2003 10:58, Fri valentine   Link
Jun is Up
She is walking around in her jammies. She seems to be looking for someone or something. She walked into the BR area and looked around, then walked into the kitchen and to the back door, but didn't open it.

Then she walked back into the BR and into the WC.

Was she looking for Erica??? Where is Erica?

I know this is boring, but that's all there is to see.

Jul 11 2003 11:03, Fri valentine   Link
Scheming Jack
Jack still has his arms folded coffin-style, but one knee is up and he is making awake-type sounds. Appears to be thinking deeply, planning his day.

Yep, now he's getting up, headed for the WC.

Jun is walking around and going into the storage room.


Jul 11 2003 11:04, Fri mkemp   Link
Jun in SR, Jack just woke up. and my feeds timed out NT

Jul 11 2003 11:06, Fri mkemp   Link
JU gets juice from SR and walks back to kitchen, Jack in WC then back to BR NT

Jul 11 2003 11:07, Fri valentine   Link
Alison is Up, Too
And Dana is stirring. Jun got a gallon jug of juice, I think, from storage and is putting it in the fridge.

Jack came out of the WC, and did he wash his hands? I don't think so. Unbelievably, he went back to bed and got in coffin pose. I think he is making sure no one in that room chats or whispers.

Jun is in the shower stall now, taking her top off and running the water.

Jul 11 2003 11:08, Fri Lola   Link
Jun is showering NT

Jul 11 2003 11:11, Fri curyy4me2 ParentRootLink
camera Sloooooooowly paning in and out. NT

Jul 11 2003 11:11, Fri mkemp   Link
JU taking a shower. I only see 7 HG on quadcam. 1 in shower, 6 sleeping
don't know where the rest are at.

Jul 11 2003 11:12, Fri valentine   Link
Jun's Shower
Jun is short, and only the top 3 inches or so of her head are visible over the top of the door.

She's washing her hair and seems very relaxed. The water is probably very hot since she's the first to go. She bends over at the waist frequently--I wonder if she's avoiding the camera.

Tall Amanda has not been so lucky-and gives a semi-show while standing up straight in the stall.

Jul 11 2003 11:16, Fri valentine   Link
Yep, BB Just Gave the Wake Up Call NT

Jul 11 2003 11:18, Fri valentine ParentRootLink
Up and At Em
It was obvious that Jack and Dana were already awake because they jumped up at the sound of BB's voice.

Dana headed to the WC. Jack is now brushing his teeth, without washing his grubby pays, BTW.

Amanda was up, but just got back in bed. Jun is still lurking in the shower stall, apparently drying off and moisturizing.

Jul 11 2003 11:21, Fri valentine ParentRootLink
Amanda
I guess she got under the covers to change clothes. Smart. She put on some sweatpants and is in the WC now.

Jul 11 2003 11:16, Fri mkemp   Link
BB: good morning HG;s time to get up. NT

Jul 11 2003 11:18, Fri curyy4me2 ParentRootLink
Several houseguest roll over and pull the covers up tighter, Jack brushing teeth. NT

Jul 11 2003 11:19, Fri curyy4me2   Link
"Why are the waking us up so early?" (LOL its 10:17am HGT) NT

Jul 11 2003 11:21, Fri curyy4me2   Link
Nat and Robert still in bed, Dana brushing teeth, Jack in SR NT

Jul 11 2003 11:29, Fri curyy4me2   Link
Scott is yelling at the cameras again..."Get of my face you *Bleep*" NT

Jul 11 2003 11:30, Fri valentine   Link
2nd Wake Up Call
While Alison is folding clothes in a dark bedroom and talking to David about copping an Army Rangers T-shirt. David only has 2 with him, and everybody wants them. "I'll hook you up", he tells her, "don't worry".

Someone calls BB a "piece of sh**" after the wakeup call. Could be David, but history tells up it must be Scott.

Jack is wrestling with the coffemaker and washing some pots and pans.

Jul 11 2003 11:34, Fri valentine   Link
Lock Down?
"Are we in a lock down?" Amanda asks Jack.

"I think so", Jack says.

Must be in preparation for the veto competition. Even Michelle is up and walking around. "This is the earliest I've been up all week," she says to Jack after apologizing for not saying hi to him in the hall.

Jack is making a triple decker PB&J to enjoy with his coffee. Justin has his head down on the kitchen counter while Jack makes the brew.

Jul 11 2003 11:39, Fri valentine   Link
Scott is Up
and peering at himself in the hallway mirror. A good long close up of himself. It's too early for his hat, apparently, just his shiny dome.

Robert is now shirtless in the kitchen, leaning against the counter like he has no energy. Jason has lifed his head just in time to see ex-Allison prance into the room in a humoungous hoodie sweatshirt. Now she's in the BR, lurking behing Michelle in the sink mirror.

Erica has planted herself in one of the BR corner chairs. Is she waiting on the sink? Or just lurking?

Michelle is moisturizing her face while Allison flosses in one of the chairs facing Erica.

Now, Foth.

Jul 11 2003 11:42, Fri Lola   Link
Sc called to DR NT

Jul 11 2003 11:46, Fri valentine ParentRootLink
Scott isn't in the DR, I think that was a mic call. In the WC now. NT

Jul 11 2003 11:43, Fri valentine   Link
FOTH Over, Must Have Been a Brief Announcement
Now Nathan is in the kitchen, putting his mic around his neck, wearing a white T-shirt. Gorgeous bed hair.

Robert has mercifully put on a drab gray tank top and is pouring himself a cup of java.

Dana is using a hair straightener in the BR--is this a daily task? Is her hair wavy? Every one wants to look good for the televised competition.

Jee is in the storage room with Amanda, talking about their bug bites. Both appear relaxed and unworried about the week's events. Jee is still complaining about his sore ankle.

David is leaned all the way over the bathtub, wetting his hair in a suggestive pose. Only blue sweatpants on him. Its been a few minutes now.

Jul 11 2003 11:46, Fri Lola   Link
Ja is called to the DR NT

Jul 11 2003 11:48, Fri curyy4me2   Link
Jun called to diary room.
David was finishing putting his contacts in. Jack making coffee, Dana, Michelle and Ali still primping. Justin, Amanad and Nat all stilling at the table.

Jul 11 2003 11:50, Fri Lola   Link
Er called to DR NT

Jul 11 2003 11:50, Fri curyy4me2   Link
Ericka's turn in DR. Scott out of WC and washing hands, Ali is in the shower. NT

Jul 11 2003 11:54, Fri valentine   Link
Allison
Now Allie is in the stall, throwing her sweatshirt and lingerie over the top.

The shower door is kind of revealing, but she didn't turn on the water, just changed her clothes and came out.

The boys are sitting around the dining table, cutting up and laughing. David is saying "Scott--if that is your real name, and not part of your strategy, in a funny voice". They are joking that there are 14 people in their backyard.

The HG keep getting called to the DR, one after the other in 5 minute intervals. Must be getting quickie soundbites for the show.

Jun and Michelle are putting on makeup in the hall mirror--the competition must be coming up soon.

Jul 11 2003 11:54, Fri Lola   Link
Ja just mentioned that it's Friday the 11th, one of the other guys says tomorrow will be a week NT

Jul 11 2003 11:54, Fri jordan3   Link
Jack stated that tomorrow it will be a week in the house NT

Jul 11 2003 11:59, Fri Lola   Link
Most of the HG are at the kitchen table, small talk
all saying what time they went to bed. Am gets called to DR and leaves. Feed switches to BR where Mi & Al are getting ready. Al tells M that she loves her top. M says thanks, you can borrow it. Al swines that she feels like she won't get rid of the bags under her eyes cause they won't let get any sleep

Jul 11 2003 12:00, Fri valentine   Link
DR Calls
Amanda is sitting at the dining table with the guys when she is called to the DR. All the guys laugh and say she is getting called in to take her birth control pill--maybe that's why they all get called in, to take their medications.

BB shows Amanda entering the DR, plopping down, and asking "is today the 11th?". BB says yes and we quickly go to FOTH for a minute.

Allison has on a cute strapless flowered top that Dana is complimenting her on in the BR. Allison complains about the bags under her eyes and discusses her bronzer with Dana. Erica is lounging in her lavendar robe, watching her with her legs stretched out on the floor.

All 4 feed show Allie focusing on her eye makeup.

Jul 11 2003 12:00, Fri Lola   Link
all feeds Al putting on her makeup NT

Jul 11 2003 12:06, Fri Lola   Link
Al is whispering to Er about Ju .... Then Na walks in (small talk)
the girls tell him his hair is getting long. He says it grows fast and he'll probably need a trim. Al says " Are you going to let me do it" He exclaims "ATHER JEE'S". She says "I did a good job on Jee's" Da agrees and they both said "Da messed it up". The talk more about hair types. Er putting on make-up in hand mirrow. Feeds switch to M, she's looking real pretty in a black top. Feeds back to BR and M and Er, still primping

Jul 11 2003 12:06, Fri reggie   Link
Al, M, E all putting makeup on in WC. NT

Jul 11 2003 12:07, Fri reggie   Link
Now 4 feeds of N brushing teeth NT

Jul 11 2003 12:08, Fri valentine   Link
Primping and Blow Drying
Michelle had changed into a miniskirt and is blow drying her hair to make it straighter.

June has on a little black sundress and is putting lotion on her legs. Let me point out she is still the only one to shower so far today.

Erica has apparently given up on getting time at the BR mirror, so she's sitting in one of the BR chairs applying makeup with a handheld mirror. Nate is slumped in other chair, watching Lolita Michelle fiddle with the blow dryer.

Nate discusses coffee preferences with Erica while she applies eyeliner. Now he's watching her put on lip liner.

Now Allies back in the mirror, putting on mascara.

Not a lot of girlie conversation this morning. Everyone must need coffee.

Nate gets up out of the chair and takes his turn in front of the mirror to brush his pearly whites.

Jul 11 2003 12:11, Fri Lola   Link
Da was telling story about past when him and friends put Man of War fish on arms to see who could hold out longest NT

Jul 11 2003 12:13, Fri Lola   Link
HG deciding what they're going to eat, then Na comes up and asks M girls if they're talking about sex again NT

Jul 11 2003 12:16, Fri valentine   Link
Michelle
Everyone is in the common areas, yet all 4 feeds have been following Michelle as she prepares her coffee and sits down to drink it.

Dana sat next to her, so she's in 2 feeds now. Camera-hog Allison needs to figure this out and position herself nearby.

A near-porno close up of M's lips as she chews, smacks and swallows.

Jul 11 2003 12:24, Fri Lola   Link
Da is teasing Mi saying something about was he does rubs off from M then he changes it
and says "Actually nothing rubs off from Mi" She replys "Thats not funny, no ones laughing but you. You're the only one laughing at your own joke, you realize that" He says "yeah and gives her his best little boy being scolded look

Jul 11 2003 12:29, Fri Debra_Kadabra ParentRootLink
She also called him obnoxious NT

Jul 11 2003 12:27, Fri Lola   Link
Sc asks if anyone has had Vodka and Minute Maid punch, with a little Gator Aid so you don't get dehydrated, (sounds yummy?) NT

Jul 11 2003 12:27, Fri valentine   Link
Kitchen Table Banter
Loose talking and lauging by Dana, David, Scott, Robert and whoever else is sitting there.

They are talking about Mr Hanky (South Park??) and imitating some high pitched voice and we go to FOTH.

Cameras still lingering on Michelle's face. She's not a big talker, just sipping and pouting and eyeballing everyone. Is she really smart and hiding it?

Amanda is talking about her DR conversation. They told her she can give shout outs in the DR, but if she does it out of the DR it will get blocked from the live feeds. I guess they can't directly address the folks at home?

Someone is imitating the Afflac duck, and we get a quick FOTH until it stops.

Scott has covered his dome with a knit cap. Everyone is just waiting for something to happen, and probably stressing about what the veto will mean.

Michelle has just spoken "i like grapefruit juice better. i'm not a big apple juice fan."

Scott is dispensing his wise waiter knowledge now, advising everyone to take vitamins, and discussing his diet of cantalopes and other fruits.

David tells a story about an army nurse taking 5 vials of blood from him and making a mess with his veins. He wasn't happy with the experience.

Jul 11 2003 12:33, Fri reggie   Link
4 feeds of Je shaving NT

Jul 11 2003 12:33, Fri Lola   Link
Je is shaving and Na ask him if he always shaves dry. Je says Yeah that how he started out NT

Jul 11 2003 12:34, Fri valentine   Link
Jun and Nate
Jun is using a curling iron on her hair while she talks to Nathan who is lounging in one of the BR chairs.

They are whispering a little, talking about Scott still loving Amanda and his behaviour in general. Jun is not a fan of Scott.

I missed some of this, but they were saying they need to be careful because they were talking too loud last night.

This makes sense, because earlier Allison was whispering something to Erica about some sort of test she gave someone the night before, and that now she was "absolutely positive" about it.

Jee is shaving now and telling Nate he has been having a lot of fun in the house. He wouldn't want to be in Nate's shoes because Nate has the pressure of reading all the cue cards. (??)

Ironic that the best looking person doesn't feel the need to primp before the comp.

Nate's says he used to watch Sesame Street all the time and his favorite was The Count. Jee says the Count was all pimped out with his accent and cape.

Jul 11 2003 12:38, Fri ktan ParentRootLink
Jee's referring to the instructions for the comps and any BB annoucements to be read by HOH NT

Jul 11 2003 12:36, Fri Lola   Link
Na & Je are talking about POV, say they can't let Sc or Am get it. Na says
either way though "You're safe, everyone's got you back"

Jul 11 2003 12:37, Fri valentine   Link
Nate and Jee Discuss Michelle
Nate says he likes that she is so innocent. Jee likes that in a woman, its what he looks for. Jee says the only thing that bothers him is that she's a virgin.

Nate says "yeah. And she's a Democrat and a sophomore in college--all the way in Florida. I just can't do that."

Jee: "oh, have you been considering that?"

They discuss the veto and Jee's session in the DR after his haircut. He was grilled about that in the DR.

Jul 11 2003 12:41, Fri Lola   Link
More about POV
Na says no one would use the POV, Je says he thinks Sc might cause he's just the kind of guy that doesn't give a $hit. Je says one of the girls (I'm not sure who) is not exactly a *itch but taht comes across kind of course and that it's coming out more and more (anyone get who the girl is?)

Jul 11 2003 16:46, Fri ReaderGrrl ParentRootLink
I would guess Ericka, she only seems to be bonding with her alliance of 4 NT

Jul 11 2003 12:41, Fri Arc   Link
N and Jee discuss veto
Jee asks what he will do if Amanda or Scott win the veto. Who will he put up?

N says Michelle.

N tells Jee that no matter what everyone has his back.

They agree that no matter what, they can't let Scott or Amanda win the veto.

Talk turns away from POV, but comes back and N says that if Sc uses it he would lose a lot of credibility in the house.

Jee says that Amanda told her that Scott likes to cause trouble.

Jee says Erika has been acting shady.

N asks who Jee would put up if he won HOH next week.

Jee says definitely Erika, but he hasn't really been thinking about it.

N says it'll work out.

Jul 11 2003 12:42, Fri valentine   Link
Strategy Talk
Nathan and Jee talking real low, about preventing Scott from getting the veto.

They have apparently bonded and are being very careful about who is around. They are talking about Erica and how her true colors are coming out. They think she is a major bit** and she will be on the block next week.

Erica and Amanda walk by and they quickly switch topics to Jee's haircut while Nathan chugs the rest of his juice. Smart and sneaky.

Nate says he was never interested in wrestling and wearing that tight outfit with his package hanging out. Jee says you get to wear a cup so you look alright. Nate says he's still not comfortable rolling around with men.


Jul 11 2003 12:54, Fri valentine   Link
Discussion about Krista and Mike Boogie from BB2
Dana and Jack are telling the group about the proposal on live tv. David proclaims Mike a "dumbass" for doing that on tv and putting her on the spot. They can't believe he met Krista in the house and hooked up so quick.

Robert says he goes to Belly (Mikes bar) and that a lot of industry types hang out there. He says Mikes strategy was good for his business.

I'm sure his wheels are turning on that note.

Jul 11 2003 12:59, Fri valentine   Link
Prep for Competition
BB just came on and told them to dress in comfortable clothing for the competition. BB told Nathan to get dressed first because they need him in the DR.

Dana called out to BB "what does that mean?" "Shorts, swimsuits, what"

BB said shorts are fine.

Someone, a guy, I don't know who, started mocking Dana in their microphone. Calling her a stupid dumbass and mocking her accent. Do we know who that was??? Could it have been BB??

Someone is not a Dana fan, big time.

Jul 11 2003 13:01, Fri Arc ParentRootLink
That was Scott NT

Jul 11 2003 13:03, Fri valentine   Link
FOTH!! And....
we have a pool skimmer in front of the house!!! This may be the long FOTH during the comp.

BBL

Jul 11 2003 13:04, Fri Phantom   Link
Action Alert!! There is a woman skimming the crud out of the pool at the FOTFH. NT

Jul 11 2003 13:09, Fri reggie   Link
Sc talking to Am, saying that he will put up Justin, becuase he is a major threat. SC thinks Justin would put him up. NT

Jul 11 2003 13:13, Fri Phantom   Link
Scott working Amanda to win POV and save herself and it is implied that she can then align herself with him and his group.
Didn't get it all and some was whispered. Dana came into the room next door and interrupted.

Jul 11 2003 13:16, Fri reggie   Link
HGs were told to dress for 'mobility and flexibility' for the competition. Scott already has decided that he will not win. NT

Jul 11 2003 13:16, Fri house_guest   Link
Preparing for competition
BB has aked all the HGs to change into "comfortable clothes". Dana seeks a claraification if shorts and T-shirt are Ok to which BB says OK. Someone (can't tell who) is speaking softly into the mic mocking Dana and calling her a dumb ass.

In the Kitchen, Jun grates potatoes in preparation to make potato pancakes... jump to FOH where a guy with a pool skimmer is walking aroung cleaning out the pools in front of the house... back to the kitchen...

As Jun scrubs, HGs discuss what to wear. One of the wonders if they need to be wearing shoes... back to FOTH and pool guy skimming the pool... we go back and forth several times...

Back to the house... Scott lays in bed with eyes closed as Robert, laying on another bed, talks to him about appropriate footwear. Scott mocks BB telling them to dress for "maximum flexibility". Scott gets up and leaves, leaving David alone until feeds cut to bathroom where everyone's primping up. They decide that sneakers would be the most appropriate shoes to wear.

Scott departs bedroom and finds Am alone and starts whispering. He tells her he's rooting for her and thinks he's going to be going next week. Scotts says he wants Justin to go because he's the biggest competitive threat. Whispering softly, Am says she thinks Dana needs to go.

They start talking more loudly and Scott jokingly asks Am if she thinks Dana is attracted to her (he says it knowing Dana can overhear him outside the bedroom). No longer alone in the bedroom, talk turns back to footwear... they want to wear sneakers but take sandals with them in case they can wear them.

In the living room, Scott tells the group he's not going to win the challenge because it requires "mobility and felxibility," neither of which he possesses. Talk turns to college backetball coaching. Scott and Justin discuss Pitt's coach going to UCLA (sounds like Justin played basketball at Pitt).

Sitting in the LR, most of them sit around waiting for BB to tell them what's next...




Jul 11 2003 13:27, Fri ImJenn   Link
FOTH... Veto Challege is ON! NT

Jul 11 2003 13:37, Fri Anonymous   Link
Scott yelling saying "I'm not over her, I've never been over her"
Seems very happy about something. I'm thinking possibley he won the POV?

Jul 11 2003 13:38, Fri Anonymous ParentRootLink
Waiting for the POV to happen. Sorry. NT

Jul 11 2003 13:39, Fri reggie ParentRootLink
Someone (Scott?) just said something like 'make us get ready and then make us wait' as if the competition has not occurred yet. NT

Jul 11 2003 13:39, Fri Anonymous   Link
Scott referes to Brittany Spears as a f-ing Dwarf...
He said that she (brittany) could call him if she wants to hook-up at 1-800IMADICK.

Jul 11 2003 13:44, Fri Anonymous   Link
Still waiting...
In the bathroom, Am and Jun sit in chairs while Scott talks to them about how he's never been over Am. Erika walks in as Scott's talking.

S (to Am): "If you don't take me back, Erika will take me"
(silent pause)
Am: "No comment from Erika on that"
Er: "No way."

Scott says he's not afraid to bear his heart on national TV be he's talking in a semi-sarcastic tone. Next, Scott starts baching Britney Spears but then recants jokingly: "Britney, if you want to hook up after the show, call me." He also seems annoyed at BB for "making them wait".

Am and Erika sit silently in the BR chair while Alison audibly swishes some kind of mouthwash around. The 3 girls start talking about hair and how tiring it is to blow dry it. Scott wanders in and starts shaving with an electric razor and laments the bad job he did cutting Jee's hair...

Cut to FOTH.






Jul 11 2003 13:48, Fri Anonymous   Link
FOTH
Front of the house continues

Jul 11 2003 14:04, Fri reggie   Link
FOTH is over. The challenge had something to do with knots. NT

Jul 11 2003 14:06, Fri house_guest   Link
Dana wins POV competition
Back from FOTH...

Most of group in dining room, sounds like they're discussing the POV competition. Something about having to "slip through knots". Dana WON!

Jul 11 2003 14:06, Fri Eykis   Link
Dana won POV NT

Jul 11 2003 14:07, Fri valentine   Link
Who Won?
We can't tell from the conversation yet who won. Was Nate eligible to play? Cause that's what it sounds like.

Amanda doesn't look happy, sitting at the dining room table holding her knees.

Can't tell how Jee feels, just from looking at him. He thought it was a cool competition, like the Matrix.

Jul 11 2003 14:08, Fri reggie   Link
HGs discussing POV meeting, say it is Sunday NT

Jul 11 2003 14:08, Fri valentine   Link
Dana Won it NT

Jul 11 2003 14:17, Fri reggie   Link
Ja and E in kitchen getting turtle food ready. D at kitchen table eating. 10 HGs off-cam NT

Jul 11 2003 14:21, Fri valentine   Link
Turtle TLC
Erica and Jack, the Turtle Caretakers, are slicing up lettuce and carrots for their little shelled friends. They seem a lot more comfortable with each other and Jack is standing very close to her.

They talk about the competition and Jack tells her she did well.

She is making what looks like a very chic little salad, piling it up like a fancy restaurant.

Jack says he was watching Nate out of the corner of his eye during the Comp and he was flying.
Jack is carrying the plate of Turtle Salad out of the kitchen.

Jul 11 2003 14:25, Fri valentine ParentRootLink
Turtle TLC
All 4 feeds on Jack and Erica alone in the BR, watching the torti. They haven't started eating yet, but the HG are waiting.

I guess no one else in the house cares about the torti.

Erica looks natural today, with her hair in a pony tail with sunglasses on her head, with a very tight light blue T-shirt on.

No talk about the veto, or anything meaningful. They wonder what will happen to the turtles when the show is over.

Jul 11 2003 14:28, Fri house_guest   Link
Post Competition events
Sitting around the dining room table, Dana discusses her winning strategy in the knot/rope game -- she has a purple ribbon around her neck (presumably the POV medal).

The group jokingly discusses going to the mall or going to see Terminator 3. Dana mentions on BB2 that Krista and Bunky was able to go to the screening of American Pie. They all start talking about Bunky... how he was really nice but cried a lot. They start taking about other former BB HG's (callign Josh a "fag" and saying Marcellas also creid a lot).

More discussion of the competition... Am and Dana said that Nate was going really fast, but apparently stalled out allowing Dana to win. The competition was apparently over pretty quickly (not a shock since the FOTH wasn't up that long). Am says that she thought the competition would be more drawn out so she took her time. Jun says she hopes that she at least wins some competition before she's kicked out, otherwise people will just think all se could so is cook.

The group disperses around the house. Erika cuts veggies in the kithen in prep for lunch. Discussion ensues on the difference between subs, hoagies, heros and gyros. Talk of gyros leads to discussion of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," which they all agree they loved. David makes a sexist joke about women cooking, cleaning and bringing a man his slippers, which Erika ignores and Jack just smirks at.

Erika and Jack are now alone in the kichen discussing the competition quietly. Apparently Jack did poorly (no knots untied... in fact he says he tied a new one somehow). Erika got one undone. They continue to cut carrots and lettuce together (for the pet turtles ?!?)...

They starting discussing what's required to take care of the pool... 2 scoops of the chlorine and skimming. Apparently Robert knows all about pools and pool maintenance (Jack says "Isn't it amazing that 13 people get together and one of them knows all about pools.")

Now whispering, Erika tells Jack she didn't want Dana to win. Jack agrees. He said he saw Nate had an early lead and didn't see Dana coming up.

J & E take the food to the bedroom with the aquarium and feed the turtle. They sit alone in the room on a bed and watch, but the turtle doesn't go for the food. They discuss the difficulty in regulating the temperature in the tank and continue to watch with great interest, sometimes completely silently. Jack says he heard the turtle during the previous night "more than I usually do." Apparently the turtle is a specieis that grows very large (third largest in the world). E & J wonder who will take care of it when it grows bigger.

Cut to living room where 6 of the HGs sit on the sofa lounging and Am sits on the floor nearby repeatedly suffling a deck of cards. They complain of the heat and ask Jun to turn the A/C to 68 degrees. They discuss the importance of keeping track what day it is, especially for food purposes.


Jul 11 2003 14:29, Fri Lola   Link
Je, Ro, Mi, Na, Da, Am, Da and Ju are making small talk on sofa, Ju comes in and sits on Na's, Sc is nearby NT

Jul 11 2003 14:34, Fri Lola   Link
Er and Ja talking about POV in Turtle room
Er thinks they may give POV to Sc or Ju. Er thinks they may be able to Al on their side. Da comes in so they start talking about the turtls

Jul 11 2003 14:37, Fri reggie   Link
Ja, E, D in turtle room, discussing 'they' (not sure who 'they' is/are) want R or Js to get 'it' (HOH?) so they can get Sc out. NT

Jul 11 2003 14:39, Fri house_guest   Link
Turtle watching
Several of the HGs are now reclining on the couch as Am continues to play with the cards. Al got her legs across Robert's lap and he slowly caresses them. Discussion turns to foot size with one of the women stating that she's noticed that "Scott's feet are pretty big". Giggling ensues.

Back to the bedroom with the turtle... Scott has joined E and Jack who sontinue to watch the turtle in silence. Scott then leaves. E & J are now whispering. E thinks that Justin and Nate want to get rid of Scott... says it's just a gut feeling she has.

E: "There's a very distinct possibility we might be able to get Allison... she's not too happy with Dana."

The whispering is cut short when David enters the room. Silence ensues as they watch the turtles who are now chowing down on the veggies and "turtle food". David asks if it's possible for a turtle to come out of it's shell: "They're attached to it, right?" Jack responds affirmitively.

Whispering ensues again. E tells David that two of the HGs are planning to throw the next HOH competition so Justin will win and put up Scott. D says that it would be unwise for the other 4 non-exes to turn on them by getting rid of Scott. "It would throw the whole thing into turmoil".

Michele walks into the bedroom and calls the three to the living room for some "annoucements".






Jul 11 2003 14:42, Fri valentine ParentRootLink
David
David couldn't even understand Erica's strategy talk. It was beyond him and he kind of argued with her, saying it didn't make sense.

Erica stated earlier that Allie is unhappy with Dana due to her "relationship" with Justin. Erica said "it bothers her a lot, a lot, for her to come and confide in me. and i'm not cool"

Jul 11 2003 14:39, Fri reggie   Link
M just informed Ja, E, D that everyone needs to go to LR for announcements (from BB) NT

Jul 11 2003 14:39, Fri Lola   Link
Er, Da and Ja talk about how others will throw HOH to Ju, then
Ju can get Sc out. Others want him out but they gave their word so Ju can do their work. Da doesn't think they should throw it, that would be stupid cause it might not work. M comes in to make an announcement and Da says we don't want your stinkin announcement, she retorts, IT'S NOT MY ANNOUNCEMENT. feed switches

Jul 11 2003 14:40, Fri house_guest   Link
FOTH ...
Looks like they don't want us to hear the announcements BB is about to make.

Jul 11 2003 14:42, Fri reggie   Link
FOTH is over. It appears that BB told them to open the shades and that they can go outside.
One HG notes that the crew cleaned up the yard.

Jul 11 2003 14:42, Fri reggie ParentRootLink
Once again, they walk outside and comment that it is hot out there. NT

Jul 11 2003 14:42, Fri Lola   Link
Lock down is over, they can go out now, the yard has been cleaned up NT

Jul 11 2003 14:43, Fri Lola   Link
Ca is having a heat wave and they're talking about how hot it it NT

Jul 11 2003 14:45, Fri reggie   Link
Ja/E by pool talking about concern about JS/Dn
Ja:"I know they were talking last night"
lots of whisphering
E:"I don't think Dv go what I meant"
Ja:"Yeah. _____ spend time with Nathan too"

Jul 11 2003 14:45, Fri Lola   Link
Er & Ja saying that they talked to Da and Na, they split up, Er goes in pool, Ja goes away NT

Jul 11 2003 14:47, Fri valentine   Link
Amanda's Education
Amanda is disappointed in her comp performance because she took a class in school called Knot Theory, which she said was required for her major. (what kind of major is that???)

Erica and Jack just stood in the pool and discussed again what they said feeding the turtles, including the fact that it all went over David's head.

I can't wait to hear Jack's DRs tonight on tv.

Jul 11 2003 14:54, Fri ktan ParentRootLink
Knot theory has to do with mathematics and science. NT

Jul 11 2003 14:47, Fri reggie   Link
Am is lamenting that she took knot theory in college (required course) and that is why she was analyzing the knots in the competition rather than just
'following her line'.

Now commenting that it is hot out.

Scott laying out on beach chair apparently sunbathing.

Am to E about pool: "It could be a baby pool and everyone would still be like cool" E:"yeah" Am:"you could still jump into it, but Dv would probably kill himself".

plane flies over


Jul 11 2003 14:49, Fri Lotus   Link
Scott: "Wouldn't it have been great if they put a bisexual couple in here?" NT

Jul 11 2003 14:50, Fri valentine   Link
Scott Mouthing Off
He is mocking Dana big time, mimicking her talkinga about getting ready for the competition.

He doesn't seem to mind who hears. She could use the POV on him?

Jul 11 2003 14:52, Fri valentine ParentRootLink
Dana
Scott is calling Dana the Man Troll and singing a little annoying song about wondering where she is, to the tune of Candyman.

Jee misunderstood and thought he was talking about the Man Show.

Jul 11 2003 14:55, Fri Lola   Link
Ro calls Er a *itch because she went to the fridge to see if he took something, says he doesn't want to be near her NT

Jul 11 2003 14:56, Fri house_guest   Link
David tries to kill himself
Looks like lockdown is over and the guests can go back in the yard. Allison goes out and opens the blinds, noting that BB has cleaned up the yard from the POV competition. Other HGs start straggling outside... Erika, David, Amanda then Jack. Am says that she took "Knot Theory" in college and that's why she was analyzing the knot competition so much.

E and Ja now talk quietly in yard about their conversation with david earlier. Ja says he needs to spend time with Nathan and heads back in.

Scott goes outside (not wearing his usual cap) and pulls a chaise into the sun, while Am lights up a cigarette in the shade and puts her feet up. BB tells Sc to put his mic back on. Am and Sc talk about how funny it would have been if a gay or bisexual couple had been put in the house.

Scott jokes that a banner went over saying "Scott and Am have an alliance." Am jokes "Yeah, I'm in a position to make alliances."

Scott breaks out into a song (about Dana presumably) called "Man Troll". He's joking about he "oiling up" before the competition and then imitates a New York accent "I got all oiled up so I'd be as loose and slippery as possible."

Scott now dare David to try to jump over the pool and they all laugh as the courtyard cameras move onto him in anticipation of the jump. Da doesn't do it but instead attempts to jump onto the punching bag upside down. Instead he crashes into the wall behind the bag... CRUNCH!

He looks hurt be he's laughing. After a minute and some concern from the other roomates, he gets back up to try it again....

Again he misses, which pisses him off. He tries again and... DOES IT! He does a flip in the air and catches himself on the bag. Mock cheering is heard.


Jul 11 2003 14:59, Fri Lola   Link
Ja & Na whispering about Sc wanting Am out next NT