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Jul 31 2003 01:01, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452027				Link
They conjecture on how game will work
They think the cool team will eat cold food, and the hot team will have hot food.

Jul 31 2003 01:03, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452033				Link
Robert says teams are unfair
He says Justin and Nate shouldn't be on same team.

Jul 31 2003 01:33, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452154				Link
Robert: It's crunch time now
The Stooges say they will use the veto on one of the others if they get it. Justin doesn't seem too concerned with leaving because he will be sequestered "in Mexico," he says.

Jul 31 2003 01:35, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452160				Link
Stooges still talking strategy in the BY
Jee will "flip it" if Erica wins the "f*cking money." The Stooges say they will vote against Erica if she is in the final two -- no matter who she is up against (even Nathan), although Jee and Justin both don't like the idea of Nathan winning the money. Jee says he can't believe that saving Ali worked in his favor. He says they must believe "God is on our side."

Jul 31 2003 01:38, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452166				Link
Nate, Ali, Dana Jack playing cards; Jun and Dana in kitchen cutting jumpsuits NT

Jul 31 2003 01:50, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452179				Link
Robert says Jee is lucky to have the other Stooges
Robert says the other "c**ksuckers" would have betrayed Jee. Justin says they don't mind doing Jee's dirty work. They also say that Jee is the funniest guy and gets funnier every day. One of them says they bet Jee has a ton of friends at home. Now Dana and Jee come out with alcohol. Justin is still cutting his jumpsuit, and now Dana admits she has "OCD" (obsessive compulsive disorder). She's accusing Justin of having it too. Jee reiterates his love for his girlfriend and says she wants more of him and then something about "all my other whoes," then quickly retracts the statement after the others say that is definitely going on TV. Now they're talking about Dave (positive talk, surprisingly). Jee: "He's a guido, he's a musclehead." Jee says Justin looks like he's from the penitentiary in his jumpsuit. Jee (or Robert can't remember which) says Dana's getting horny looking at him in the jumpsuit, but Dana says he looks "f*cking gay."

Jul 31 2003 01:52, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452181				Link
Jee talks about gay sex while in jail
He says if in jail, he'd never wipe his ass. He says if you're in jail, you either get "ass-f*cked" or beat up, or both. (Note: Jee has been drinking and said he was drunk a few minutes ago.) Now Robert's going off on the boring conversation the Alliance is having inside. But the conversation turns to bench-pressing and other uninteresting talk.

Jul 31 2003 01:56, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452183				Link
They're talking about drugs
Justin says he "pulls" every once in a while (pot). Jee's "boys" smoke "four-footers." Justin says his "boys" had a four-footer (bong), too, when he came out to Calif. before the shoot. He did partake (but didn't inhale [just kidding]). His friends call all their bongs "Darth Vader." Jun and Jee used to have a bong called "Big red." Justin says he always named his bongs. One of Justin's bongs was called "Cal Rippin." Justin now says he's going to be first to go (i.e., the first of the Stooges to leave the house), but he doesn't want to be dogged in the nomination speech. He wants to be told something like "you were a threat."

Jul 31 2003 02:00, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452186				Link
Jee left marks on Jun
Jee says he wanted the marks (apparently his name branded with a knife onto Jun). Dana says all "2 1/2" girls wanted it and Jee "wanted to leave his mark on all his women." All the others (Robert, Justin, Dana) think it's ridiculous. Robert says Dave could be watching this all on the Internet and it's cool. They say Dave was "awesome," one of the coolest in the house, and Justin says "he was real."

Jul 31 2003 02:11, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452195				Link
Nate says he sweats easy and says J. Timberlake has nothing on him
He says it's like 61 degrees in the house all the time, plus his box fan is on. Erica says his internal thermometer must be messed up. The Alliance members are still inside playing cards; Nathan is drinking. Nate says Britney Spears is going to come calling and Justin Timberlake "has nothing on me." Jack agrees (with the Timberlake crack). Nate says thanks and reminds Jack that he didn't vote to evict him. Sounds to me like Nate is a little drunk (based on his ever slower drawl than usual).

Jul 31 2003 02:14, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452196				Link
Nate getting drunk on wine coolers (a red one right now) NT

Jul 31 2003 02:16, Thu	Nerghan	Forum: 073103 Post: 452197				Link
Jee talking about how stoned he will get when he get out and Dana says...
"Well it won't take much...you will take one hit and be like retarded." Jee says he has a little one hitter and he can grind up a bud and put it in the dugout and it will last him like two weeks. Now they are talking about what Jee will let his girlfriend wear. Jee has been drinking so they are all taking advantage of the fact. If you can't dazzle them with knowledge, baffle them with bull$h!t.

Jul 31 2003 02:18, Thu	Nerghan	Forum: 073103 Post: 452199				Link
Jee going on and on about how "slammin" his girlfriend is. NT

Jul 31 2003 02:23, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452201				Link
Ali says the Dark Side has been stealing alcohol
They were hoarding it in the HoH room, she says. She found it when she went into the fridge in there to find some Gatorade. She said she found 3 bottles of wine (and maybe more, but I didn't catch it). Ali says they have been taking it throughout the week.

Jul 31 2003 02:25, Thu	Nerghan	Forum: 073103 Post: 452202				Link
Jee is drunk...
We know she's a good girl Jee, we know she's the bomb we know she is the sh!t. Just tell us like five or six times not thirty... Jee is apparently hammered tallking out of his ass.

Jul 31 2003 02:30, Thu	Nerghan	Forum: 073103 Post: 452205				Link
Jun says that Ali thinks that....
the stooges specifically Jee threw the HOH comp. Jee thinks that is crazy. They ask why the Ali crew thinks that and Jun says so that Ali and Nate could do the dirty work and get rid of Dana. Justin says that he had never heard about BB until two weeks before the show started. It irks him that someone in this house is going to get a half a million dollars and he hopes that one of them (the stooges) gets the money. And he will probably kill himself if ali wins it.

Jul 31 2003 02:32, Thu	Devareux	Forum: 073103 Post: 452206				Link
Ali asks Er,Na,Jk whos in the kitchen, Nat says Freakin' Jun, Ali says why did I ask? NT

Jul 31 2003 02:33, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452207				Link
Justin said he'd never heard of this "f*ckin" show
He said two weeks before he got on the show he'd never heard of it. He says he likes to earn his money. "It wouldn't really bother as much as it would someone else," Justin says. He says he's "coastin til the end of the summer" and he has his job waiting for him. He says Jun and Dana want it more than him. "It irks me" that someone in the house will be getting $500,000 and he "might commit suicide" if Alison wins the money and he hopes one of the other Stooges wins. Robert says he feels the same way about Erica winning. Dana says she hates Erica. "I change every five minutes who I hate," she says. Dana's mad about Erica jumping up and down in the backyard after HoH competition. Jee's mad because they didn't do what he wanted them to do when he was HoH; Erica would already be gone. Dana says she didn't know if she could trust them. Now they're making fun of the Alliance, saying they are having more fun in the backyard and the Alliance is playing some boring game. Now they make fun of Erica crying after Dave left. "She's a f*cking actress," Jun says. Dana says Erica and Jack would be up their "f*cking asses" if one of them (members of the Dark side - Jee, Jun, Dana, Justin, Robert) wins HoH and she hates that.

Jul 31 2003 02:34, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452209				Link
Dana says her group is still strong
Even with one leaving, they won't turn on each other like the other side did, Dana says.

Jul 31 2003 02:42, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452216				Link
The good guys have finished playing cards, getting ready for bed NT

Jul 31 2003 02:46, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452217				Link
Jun and Ali going to talk in HoH room NT

Jul 31 2003 02:50, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452219				Link
Jun and Ali's talk
They are in a lockdown, the loudspeaker says. Jun says the other Dark Side members will think she's campaigning against them, but she's not. Ali says they all know how they stand and it's stupid to fight about it. She says that she knows Dana hates her, and that's why she doesn't like her. She says as a person she's "pretty cool," but Dana did lie to her face. She says she feels Dana will go after her. Jun says Dana hates Nate more than Ali. Jee and Robert don't like her because of Dana, Ali says. Jun says she's not going to tell Ali Dana likes her because it's not true. Ali says that Jack and Erica think Jun is "the brains" behind the other side's operation. Jun says she's not "the brains" but she the "f*ckin level-head in the group." Jun admits that she campaigned against Dave because he was the bigger threat. Ali says none of her allies hate Jun; they just view her as a threat. More...

Jul 31 2003 02:55, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452221				Link
Ali says her other allies want her to put up Jun and Justin
Because they're the biggest threats. Jun says the only thing about that is that Dana will go after Ali. "Everyone is just playing for themselves right now," Jun says. She says Erica and Jack "play both sides." They come to the Dark Side and say stuff like "Nathan's stabbing them in the back" and they don't feel like Nate and Ali can be trusted. Ali asks Jun whether she is on the other side now. Jun says she told the Diary Room she's playing week to week. She'd like to make alliances but... Jee interrupts... J: At the same time, as far as making friendships, it's not good. Jun says she'd never nominate Dana, but she would vote her out, and she says she told Dana that to her face, and Dana said the same. As far as the Stooges, they will stick to each other, Jun says. Jun says like she told the Diary Room, "I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to play the game." She says she feels as long as she doesn't nominate anyone, she feels she hasn't made any enemies. Ali asks if there's anyone Jun would want to put up. She goes through different scenarios. She says if Jun and Dana go up and one of the Stooges wins, they won't use the veto. But if one of the Stooges goes up and one of the Stooges wins the veto, they will use it. Dana and Jun won't sacrifice each other for the Stooges, and vice versa, Jun says. J: Ultimately, you earned it (HoH), you deserve it...but ultimately it's your choice. More...

Jul 31 2003 03:01, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452225				Link
Ali says it's hard not to play personal because...
everyone was being a "f*cking *****" last week except for Dave. Jun wonders if Dave was pissed at her. Ali says Dave was mad at Jun's group. Ali says she doesn't know; the only one she's not considering is Nate; Erica and Jack aren't even ruled out. She says all the other ones need to come talk to her (to lessen their chances of being nominated). She says Dana shouldn't bother, and Jun says more or less don't hold your breath. J: I guess all five of us are under the impression that it could be any one of us...so we are like (we'll just let you) make your decision. Jun says Ali shouldn't expect her people to come talk to her. She says she should consider if she can trust Erica and Jack's word. Jun says she would consider putting Nate up on the block next week if she's HoH because he's a strong competitor. But Ali says she wouldn't want that. Jun asks if she's comfortable with Nate being in the house because he's such a strong player, and she says she's ok with it. Ali says she doesn't want to do the meeting until tomorrow afternoon so she doesn't have to think about it much tonight. Jun says she doesn't want to jump from group to group (it would look bad, she implies). Conversation is breaking up now and Nate comes in.

Jul 31 2003 03:02, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452226				Link
Ali recounts conversation with Jun to Nate
She tells him about Jun not promising to put Nate up if she gets HoH but she won't put Ali up if Ali doesn't put her up. They say they pretty much have their minds made up. Dana is going up, Nate says, and Justin is going up. If one is saved by the veto, Jun can go up. Ali says Nate needs to win HoH next week, so start studying.

Jul 31 2003 03:04, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 452227				Link
Ali just lied to Nate...
She told Nate that JUN proposed to not put Ali on the block if she wins HOH, but she couldn't promise about not putting Nate on. It was Ali who did the proposal.

Jul 31 2003 03:06, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452229		Parent	Root	Link
Not true
Ali didn't really propose it; she was playing the "what if" game to see what Jun's response was (to test her).

Jul 31 2003 03:07, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 452230		Parent	Root	Link
However, she said that it was Jun's proposal...which it wasn't. NT

Jul 31 2003 03:10, Thu	JulieH	Forum: 073103 Post: 452232		Parent	Root	Link
Absolutely true. Alison suggested it NT

Jul 31 2003 03:13, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452233		Parent	Root	Link
To clarify
When Ali was talking to Jun, Ali asks Jun if she would put Nate up. Jun says yes she would. Then when Ali is talking to Nate about the conversation, she says Jun would put Nate up -- Jun wouldn't promise Ali that Nate would be safe; Jun would only agree to not nominate Ali. (Ed. note: The way I interpreted Jun-Ali conversation about Nate first was that Ali might want Nate to go up. But as the conversation progresses, it seems that she's just testing Jun to see if Jun would put Nate up, which she would. Like I said, Ali was playing the "what if" game to get the truth out of Jun but making it sound like she was contemplating nominating Nate or having someone else do it for her.)

Jul 31 2003 03:15, Thu	JulieH	Forum: 073103 Post: 452234		Parent	Root	Link
But! Alison made it sound like it was all Juns idea to make the deal NT

Jul 31 2003 03:16, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452235		Parent	Root	Link
Alison just said Jun would put up Nate - that's not a lie NT

Jul 31 2003 03:25, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 452238		Parent	Root	Link
Ali suggested it was Jun's proposal, period NT

Jul 31 2003 12:32, Thu	Phantom	Forum: 073103 Post: 453572		Parent	Root	Link
In the a chat between Jun and Ali,
Ali proposed a deal that if she didn't nominate Jun this week, Jun wouldn't nominate Ali if she became HOH. Jun questioned if that was just for one week (Yes) and then asked if Ali meant that Jun could not nominate both Nat and Ali, or just Ali. Ali agreed that the deal was just for her, and implied that she wouldn't be upset if Jun felt she had to nominate Nat; she almost seemed to encourage it. Jun accepted the deal. So, Ali proposed a deal between her and Jun, but Jun filled in the details re Nat and the duration of the deal. Jun has the right to nominate Nat, but did not commit that she would do so. The deal costs Jun nothing in that it is only a limit on her if she wins HOH next week (which she has no intention of doing), but it gets her off the hook this week and tells her that Ali is willing to sacrifice Nat. Jun wins on the exchange, but, at no point did I hear Ali say that she would not nominate Jun this week. The deal only takes effect ~IF~ Ali doesn't nominate Jun this week.

Jul 31 2003 03:05, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452228				Link
Ali says she'd never put Nate up
Ali continues to recount her conversation with Jun. She's not leaving anything out. Nate says he wouldn't trust Jun because she's strong. He says he'd "almost" want to put her up, and Ali echoes that. He says Jun goes up if he gets HoH. He wants to "scare the hell out of Jun" if he was HoH, and Ali should do it too. Ali wonders about doing that, but Nate interjects saying Justin must go, then they can recruit Jee. He says if Justin's gone, they (remaining Stooges) will come to them. Erica comes in. Nate says he's ready to go to bed, but he's staying in HoH room.

Jul 31 2003 03:08, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452231				Link
Jun and Ali in HOH
text in [] is my comments/opinions as i get here, Jee walks in Jee (to Jun) "you ate my FOTHing cheesecake. Jun "i did not Jee "you put Jack's name on it and ate it Jun "where would i get Jack's sticker... you f&ggot Jee leaves Jun explains that she would like to be in an alliance til the end, but she isn't. she is playing week to week. the only thing she has promised is not to nom Dana. says she won't nom or vote for dana ali says won't? Jun says, um, won't nom, but would vote Jun says that the 5 have only made small promises. Dana and Jun would veto each other. the boys would veto each other. but the girlz won't nom boyz and boyz won't nom girlz ali explains that the only one in the entire house that is safe is nate. he's the only one that has been nice to her. tells jun that dave was nice to her too, talked to her til 4am last nite. she says it's hard not to play personal now. Jun understands Ali says it would be good for everyone to talk to her. even justin. jun tells her justin prob won't talk to her. ali says whoever doesn't talk to her is in trouble. except dana, it won't matter if dana tried. jun says dana prob won't try ali offers jun a deal if she doesn't nom her, she will be safe if jun gets hoh. jun asks if she could put up nate. ali hesitates jun says the doesn't want to look like someone who switches from side to side each week. they wrap up their talk, as nate comes in ali explains their talk to nate. tells him jun wants to put him up if he gets hoh. tells him about poss deal. nate says he wouldn't trust jun. she thinks she's just gonna slide in thru to the end. [ali doesn't look convinced] nate says that just has to go. he thinks maybe she should nom jun too, just to scare her. thinks she's had it too easy. erika comes to door to get help with her overalls, and ali goes, leaving nate in HOH. he tells her to do whatever she wants as she leaves.

Jul 31 2003 03:18, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452237				Link
nate and jack playing cards in LR, but can't hear them
text in [] is my comments/opinions the rest of the girls are working ontheir overalls. [they sound pretty friendly, even dana, as they work] the stoogies are in the BR washing up F1 jack/nate, low or no audio F2 girls working on overalls f3 justin/jee in love room bed talking to rob f4 rob

Jul 31 2003 03:26, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452240				Link
nate talking to jack about where he will be sleeping
text in [] is my comments/opinions nate is trying to join in the sand box jack tells him dave's bed was against the wall, he can use that. says "come on in" ali walks out with her overalls, now cut to short shorts. nat "oh my gosh, it's not even overalls any more" ali walks out, and in to the love room to doing a runway style walk with her new look can now see dana in love room on same bed as rob on f4 [may have been wrong before that dana was with the girls as they worked on the overalls] can't hear audio from love room, except when they laugh [i'm on quad] jun comes thru LR and says nite to jack and nate nate "they can have the love room i guess" lights go out in love room, dark for a sec, then IR comes on. jun is in there now nate "ali, i gotta sleep with you tonite" he wonders about the bed covers in the sand box f2 is ali/erika still working on overalls nate says something about two freakin' weeks. jack says he's tired of being under the gun nate "you never know, they might switch it up on us again" nate "that freaking thing sucked. it was luck. it was luck. there was no way i could... it was luck" jack "the wind would blow the balls" nate "second rehearsal i got 12, the last i got 13 then 2" jack "where i was i think had the least wind they aren't actually playing cards. nate is just shuffling over and over. nate "ahhh, it sucks" jack "yeah, i know you can't go on another pbj week" nate "yeah" jack "we're divided up" nate "isn't that amazing" nate "jun is amazing. she's the smart, sneaky snake" [gonna check on the 5]

Jul 31 2003 03:46, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452252				Link
the love room
text in [] is my comments/opinions [i come in on the middle of this] justin talking about wanting to be put up. he'd rather be the first one of them to go, if someone has to go jun tells them she told ali dana and she would veto each other and the guys the same. rob says that's no secret dana says that may be the only reason she won't put me up dana says right now it's 100% that i'm going up jun mentions jack/erika and that she hates them jun says she told them stuff bout jack/erika. didn't specifically say anything they said just told her they said bad sh*t dana says she prob could go talk to ali. jun says she doesn't want you to jee says she prob hates your guts. it's very personal between you two dana says she wants to ask if you want me as your friend or enemy dana says she has to redeem herself and put me up justin "she's not that kind of person. don't be surprised if she doesn't put you up" jun says ali will talk to her again tomorrow they all agree to save themselves jee "whoever is in this group who can better their position, do it!" rob "but i'm not gonna lie" and something about not making promises jun "erika has taken her focus off of rob" dana says it's good you guys worked it out. rob "she shoulda FOTHing went... it irks me the way she plays this game" [all talk at once, don't catch a lot of it] jun says in HT she said she's a forgiving person. [begin patented jun whisper, so missing details] Jee "jack has to FOTHing realize he's FOTHing...." rob "jack doesn't care, he doesn't care" they agree jack is playing the smartest. dana accuses erika of bouncing around. dana "jack's a great guy and all that but he's a FOTHing scumbag" dana looking out, sees jack in mirror, w/nate. conflicting comments about jack continue jee "is ali alone in the room" Jun "she might be working on her outfit" jun says erika said to ali "the comeback kid! that's you ali!" all gasp in [what eppears to be] utter shock that erika is playing her that way. comments like that's her game. that's her way justin "if we got it we'd be going after ali" talk about how jack/erika are playing it safe, knowing that the other teams are butting heads. Jee "but, you know, assumptions can only go so far in the house...you never know.. you never know... at least we stuck it out so far in this game" more group talk. jack is well spoken. jee comments that he stomped his foot when he was HOH cause they were trying to pursuade him. [jee's batteries are dying, static in and out] Justing is cuddling with jun during all of this, his head on her chest, she is stroking the side of his head jun "ali thinks for herself, so no matter what they say she'll play it her way" all agree jun "even while i was sitting there i was thinking what the FOTH am i doing there??" jee and dana think they could kiss ali's ass right now. jun tells dana she doesn't want her to jun tells justin she wants him to go in there so bad. justin says if she asks me i wouldn't say no, but i'm not going in on my own jun whispers again [argh... how did she get so good at that] jee "the one thing i'm happy about is that she's miserable still. she's FOTHing still miserable, so is nathan" dana congratulates herself on pulling that on them last week rob seems to hear something, talk stops while he looks around jun "i'm not gonna sit in that chair if i'm evicted and blame people. why do you wanna be seen as a petty person. within the house... but why do you wanna seem so petty" jun thinks dana made a great move in her reply to julie during the show. the first response was the same she would have done, but she cut it short. says it was a good move. Jee "this room is FOTHing hot. it's FOTHing fabulous. it's dark. you can see out" dana now talking bout her julie interview. how she knew they couldn't cut it out cause it was live just asks what she said, and FOTH!

Jul 31 2003 03:51, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452254				Link
love room
text in [] is my comments/opinions Jee "i don't have any regrets" dana "i can't say that. i have two. one is that i didn't put nate/ali up. [didn't hear the 2nd] dana says she's just glad to be here, making more than at her job. justin says we're gonna leave here with like 8grand! but some of it is gonna have to go to bills and stuff. that isn't gonna stop jun tells jee his rent is so low! jee says it's not low, it's like 1400 "alright, so what are we gonna do?" jun "we're gonna go to sleep. don't want to give her any power. unless she calls you in, forget it" rob says she can call me in jun back to whisper about jack and erika, something about nate going in to the sand box. dana wonders why nate would even want to sleep in here. justin says nate going there will be like a personal victory for him jun says good night. justin asks where she's going. she says she's going to her bed. dana jumps on jee, and he yells "oh my god! help me, help me!" they all laugh at this justin "that was hilarious!. like you're goin in for a piece, dude!"

Jul 31 2003 03:52, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452255				Link
Ali just either spit or blew in Nate's face
She is accusing him of moping and calls him a "spoiled rotten brat." She says he was moping because he didn't win HoH. "We are the biggest competitors in this house right now...They're scared sh*tless," Ali says. Ali says they will jump at the first chance to get them out. Nate's pissed at Jun for being "damn traitor" because she wants to put him up. Ali says Jun has no one when Dana goes. She says Dana hates Nate more than her. Ali says she thinks she should put up Dana and Justin, but vote out Dana; it's not emotional, she says. Justin hasn't won anything; Dana's won twice. She says that she thinks the Stooges will go after Erica and Jack anyway, not them. "Dana is the driving force behind them; she's the anger in this house," Ali says. "She's brought a lot of anger and tension to this house." Nate says he's "leaning towards that way too." He says he knows they're going to put Dana and Justin up, and put Jun's key last to scare her. Ali says she wants to put Jack and Erica's keys near the end to make sure it doesn't look obvious. Nate says no. They want to give Jee a good key position. Ali warns Nate to lower his voice. He protests at first, but then she convinces him to be quieter because the Dark Side is right outside. "I know this whole damn house is going after me next week," Nate says after Ali says he's more stressed than her. More...

Jul 31 2003 03:58, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452258				Link
Justin intimidates Nate
He's the only one in the house who does. Dana doesn't intimidate her. Nate says Justin is due to win something. Ali calls Jun a bitch. Nate says he sees Dana and Jun "after my ass" (and not in a sexual way). He says Dana has a lot of influence in this house, and he says she has to make a decision. Nate suggests making a deal with Justin to secure their place in the house for one week. He says he knows Justin wants Dana gone, too. He says put Justin and Dana up, and "we'll go from there." He says Dana will start campaigning to save her ass right away. He says he'll put Jun up next week if he gets HoH. N: It just pisses me off that Jun thinks she can snake her way through this (game). Nate is upset that he is the biggest target in the house, and Ali says Dana is the "driving force." Nate agrees and says they would be "safer" if they took Dana out. "She has a hate against me. I don't know why she hates me." He conjectures that it's because he used the veto or because he wouldn't fall for her sexual advances. He says she's really ugly, not only physically but her personality, too. "She talks like a guy" cussing all the time, Nate says. Nate says he trusts Jack and Erica, "I really do," he says. He says he trusts Jack more. He says he thinks he can turn Justin and Dana against each other. He tells Ali "we've got to put them up no matter what." As a side note, they are both in the HoH bed. Nate had told Jack he'd sleep in there with Erica and Jack tomorrow night.

Jul 31 2003 04:00, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452260				Link
F1/F2 HOH
text in [] is my comments/opinions nate "if you can work out a deal with justin.." ali "for you and me?" nate "yeah, for you and me. cause he wants dana gone too. i think once dana is on the block, she's gonna start campaigning, i really do." they think that putting dana up, and not justin will split them up. he is amazed that jun can't make a promise not to put him up. he says if he gets HOH next week, he's putting her and justin up. nate "it pisses me off that jun thinks she can just snake it thru" nate is amazed that even with ali as HOH, everyone still wants him out. nate "except jack and erika" nate talking bout dana hates her guts. maybe cause he called her out on the veto. probably because he wouldn't hook up with her. says he told her she's ugly. ali asks if he really thinks she's ugly. he says yeah, she's hideous. talks about how she talks like a guy ali asks nate if he really trusts jack and erika. nate says "i do, i do" he trusts jack more than he ever did dave. ali says he (dave) liked me. whatever we do, we gotta talk to jack and erika nate thinks that now that dana's reign is over, we can talk to jee and rob, and maybe justin. ali wants him to talk before she puts two people up. nate says no, put them up. but we can talk to justin even when he's up nate gets up to turn off a light. ali says she wants to listen to some music. nate climbs in to the bed with her. feed switches to sand box. f3 is dana/justin body to body in their bed. sand box is jack and erika, audio just now kicks in jack talking bout how he [who?] thinks we are driven by so much emotion we are just gonna nominate dana as revenge. erika starts to talk, and my feed freezes so, post

Jul 31 2003 04:04, Thu	max1204	Forum: 073103 Post: 452262				Link
Erica and Jack talk
Erica says she hopes Ali keeps focus on game and doesn't let emotion play into it. Jack agrees. They think Nate and Ali are going to want Justin out.

Jul 31 2003 04:10, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452264				Link
back to sand box
text in [] is my comments/opinions it seems erika's plan is to stay close to "the kid" (ali) cause she is so emotional jack likes that plan, and will talk to her too erika thinks nathan wants justin out too. jack says yeah, there is some kind of idea that they have some "jock code" but that justin would go for the jugular erika thinks justin didn't go for HOH this week jack likes their plan. thinks it is smart. now talking bout HOH comp, and he said he told someone that he knew it would be 7 that would win this thing. he can't seem to remember who he was talking to, but he def knew it would be 7 that wins it. says nate is frustrated that he practiced so hard, and he didn't do well. nathan and he had a terrible rehearsal. they only got one. erika chuckles jack "they were, for the actual competition tonite, the cylinders were lined up better. mine, for rehearsal, was kinda lined up different. 2nd rehearsal mine wasn't lined up right, but it didn't have any bearing" ekika "there's an empty bed over there" [ED i sob at that] jack tells her nate is coming over tomorrow jack isn't sure that it's a good place for nate to sleep. when ali comes out of HOH, if she wants to come in, since he gets up all the time, maybe he could move to the bed closer to the door. he is talking about how there hasn't really been 4 in here, except that first night, when justin was in here. he says that's the night the blanket wore on him. was his worst nite here. jack puts his glasses down. lies back in his bed Jack "i figure david's gotten off a couple of times by now" erika laughs jack "i hope you don't sew yourself into a frazzle and get a bunch of crap" erika is sitting in bed, working on her outfit jack settles in to modified mummy position, with hand behind his head erika chatters about her outfit.

Jul 31 2003 04:12, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452265				Link
sand box
text in [] is my comments/opinions competition talk jack was watching nate the whole time. was thinking what the hell is wrong with you? he's competitive. he was down. it even affected his ping/pong game. he was off tonite. julie's commentary really helped him, since he knew that they had nate and ali's back, and ali was in the lead erika thinks he is hard on himself. he thinks he shoulda had it. jack agrees. they get quiet for a while

Jul 31 2003 04:21, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452266				Link
love room
text in [] is my comments/opinions dana and jun sharing a bed. justin was tossing alone in a sep bed on F3 dana and nate talking about korean culture. move on to chinese, with the limit on 2 kids [thought it was 1??] and how they want sons. dana asks if they still have that and what would they do, kill a daughter? what will they do if it's all men? jun "the pastor at my church has 4 daughters and one boy, cause they wanted a boy, he wanted that boy so bad and he's a pastor and they aren't supposed to be like that. they say that boy come out, and they think he's so special, and he is smart, but he's (something physically wrong with his face) and some people think that that is payback for wanting a boy so bad" dana asks where jun family is from. i think she said lower east side. they are in an apt, not a condo. they aren't like other korean parents. they don't care about a house. her parents took them on 2 vacations a year, and most koreans are all about work work work and they don't care about family. that's why she's like she is; they raised her to be independant, but she's not married and they don't like that. she was like why would you bring me to this country and give me everything and then expect me to just want to get married and have kids dana pipes in that she has similar family members. she's not married yet, she's working on her career [career? she makes 450/week in NYC and that's a career???] dana talking about her youngest cousin is like 12, so at the holidays the family is like "we need kids, where's the kids" and one of her cousins just got engaged and that's great, cause he'll have kids. he's of course wonderful cause he's a man, but then he'll be better cause he will have kids dana can not wait to invite jun over when the game is over. it will be awesome. talking about friends. juns best friend is Nami. she's so cute. [blah, blah, blah] justin is restless and tosses in his bed

Jul 31 2003 04:30, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452268				Link
love room
text in [] is my comments/opinions dana and jun talking bout family and friends. how outside the house they have friends that love them without condition. jun talking about her job, and if she was still with jee she could never have that. dana now talking about how cool this experience is gonna be. her mom said even if you go for a week and leave, you can still say you did it. both jun and dana think that at least they are showing themselves. they have a personality, and you can see it. someone like nate, you don't even know who they are. jun is amazed that people can be like that. dana says they are just a mask, covered by skin jun whispering now [out of consderation for the ones sleeping, or cause she's talking about the others??] dana just said something about having "fried shitballs for dinner, with a bowl of urine. hope you enjoy it" jun says it's scary, dana agrees [no idea what the context is, due to whispers] dana talking about making a hat for herself for the comp. jun asks when. dana says when you were talking to ali. says she was gonna make one for jun. thinks she left it on that thing in the kitchen, what do you call it? an island?? more friend talk and how jun has a friend with a beautiful kitchen who cooks up a storm [mentor for you, jun??] back to whispers, so going back to quad

Jul 31 2003 04:31, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452269				Link
around the feeds
F1 camera panning across LR, nate is on the couch eating something F2 stillshot of nate in LR F3 ali/dana in love room F4 justin in love room

Jul 31 2003 04:32, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452270				Link
nate done eating, heads back to HOH bed with ali
F1 HOH F2 sand box F3 dana/jun F4 justin

Jul 31 2003 04:34, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452271				Link
house is quiet. all HGs trying to sleep NT

Jul 31 2003 05:26, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452291				Link
HOH. ali awake, listening to music and staring at a picture NT

Jul 31 2003 05:34, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452300				Link
HOH.. ali up and looking around, lights on.. NT

Jul 31 2003 05:42, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452309				Link
HOH - ali back to bed, Nate MIA NT

Jul 31 2003 06:20, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452390				Link
for those without feeds... nate is back in bed with ali NT

Jul 31 2003 07:05, Thu	frustratedposter	Forum: 073103 Post: 452468				Link
Erika sleep talking? or half awake on F1 NT

Jul 31 2003 09:12, Thu	KelliGirl	Forum: 073103 Post: 452725				Link
30 minutes untill food comp. NT

Jul 31 2003 09:22, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 452750				Link
Some HG are getting up and dressed (Dana & Jun), can see others still under the covers, Dana is waking up Jus NT

Jul 31 2003 09:28, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 452771				Link
It appears that instead of Dana getting Jus up, she ended up cuddling back in the bed with him. Jun doing makeup NT

Jul 31 2003 09:35, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 452789				Link
FOTH NT

Jul 31 2003 09:35, Thu	lucyfer	Forum: 073103 Post: 452791				Link
FOTH on all 4 feeds NT

Jul 31 2003 09:40, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 452806				Link
FOTH over, Looks like everyone is up. All moving thru house doing moning routines NT

Jul 31 2003 09:44, Thu	ktan	Forum: 073103 Post: 452832				Link
Weird contraption shown in BY for comp with crew members assembling it -- appears to involve water and ping pong balls on a slide. Lots of piping. NT

Jul 31 2003 09:54, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 452885				Link
All feeds switch to different angles of kitchen. They're in lockdown...
Rob wonders how long it will be Someone says 15 min He says thay always get then up then make them wait Nate says to Ali as hes leaving HOH "I'm Hot" Je is discussing which shoes to wear. He doesn't want ot mess up his favorite pair. He make joke "Hitop owl side" and they all giggle and repeat

Jul 31 2003 10:07, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 452937				Link
Ju, Jus, Nate & Ja in blue jumpsuits Ro, Er, Je & Dana in red. They're all sitting in living room
They're making small talk. Not too lively One feed show someone working in back yard. Screwing blue pipes together, water is coming out. Ja won't eat anything cause he's afraid to The others don't think it's a food thing cause they heard construction going on all night They start naming disgusting things that they might want them to eat (it's early so I won't repeat them) Jun thinks the red looks better on the girls but they say they cant break it that way cause theres only 3 girls Jack says "We're running out of bodies" BB mentions their mikes Jun sarcastically says "Like we have a lot to talk about right now" They talk about how Ali is not competing but that she's wearing a suit anyway. She chose a red one. Again they talk about red being prettier for the girls. Lots of yawning. Je says It's taking forever, it must be complicated Er says like maybe a jungle jim Sounds like Dana is getting a cold Jun tells her to pull her act together

Jul 31 2003 10:22, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 452990				Link
Ali comes out in a life vest with food comp instructions...they are lined up by the back door NT

Jul 31 2003 10:24, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453000				Link
They head outside and see the contraption set up NT

Jul 31 2003 10:25, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453002				Link
Steam coming off the pipes...a couple of hgs say it smells bad out there...Ali takes her mark to read instructions ...FOTH NT

Jul 31 2003 10:25, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453003				Link
Ali announces "You guys ready for this weeks food comp, lets go outside"
Je's first words "What the ****" They're all talking at once They think they're going to have to build something FOTH

Jul 31 2003 10:29, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453018				Link
Each team has their own pile of pipes
They must connect their pile of pipes to the water source they must be consequtivly Ali warns that once the water is on they might burst Each team has a duck, either red or blue first team to get their duck through wins

Jul 31 2003 10:30, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453021				Link
Each team has their own pile of pipes and joints...
They must work together to build a connection through the rings (1-8) in order. Connectors are silver, so they can keep track of connections. They get a head start building their pipes before the water gets turned on full blast. They must get all the pipes connected. Leaks might start and/or connections might burst after water is turned on. Each team has their own devil ducks..hot duck and cool duck. 1st team to get the connection made with water poured over their ducks to send them down the slide wins. Winners eat, losers get PB&J

Jul 31 2003 10:31, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453025				Link
They must do one connection at a time, in consecutive order NT

Jul 31 2003 10:31, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453029				Link
Getting ready to start...intermittent FOTH NT

Jul 31 2003 10:34, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453038				Link
Still FOTH NT

Jul 31 2003 10:41, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453053				Link
Ready, set - GO! >>>>
Teams scrambling to get connections started... Blue seems to have early advantage - working quietly. Jee can be heard shouting for red - one pipe too long...needs shorter Water started as blue is working over their heads Blue springs a leak - red springs a leak A cry of "Oh, $hit!" as another leak starts Jun standing there holding connectors...boys scrambling to get right size pipes Red starting on overhead pipes

Jul 31 2003 10:44, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453061				Link
Still connecting....
Having trouble getting right sized pipes. They seem to be out of 90 degree connectors already. Blue through another ring brief FOTH Blue hitting a snafu trying to get a hard angle connected. Finally got it! Blue WINS!!!

Jul 31 2003 10:44, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453062				Link
The teams are ready
Ali says they have to work one at a time (feed keeps cutting back and forth from comp to FOTH, surprize, surprize) Ali says "ON you mark, get set, go" They're selecting their pipes and putting them together they have several pipes together when the water comes on (Looks like a few leaks) Both teams are hustleing A lot of Holy **** and *** being said It's hard to tell whos ahead They only have so many of each types of pipe so the strategy of using the pipe is just as important as getting them together fast Blue teams wins

Jul 31 2003 10:45, Thu	antonio2025bk	Forum: 073103 Post: 453063				Link
BLUE TEAM WINS NT

Jul 31 2003 10:45, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453065				Link
Blue WINS - sent their duck down the slide. Silence from red team NT

Jul 31 2003 10:46, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453076				Link
Ali announce the cool team wins. She then says the red team was close behind, and they were awsome too NT

Jul 31 2003 10:48, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453081				Link
ErJe and Dana look very unhappy NT

Jul 31 2003 10:57, Thu	ktan	Forum: 073103 Post: 453124				Link
F3 going over memory wall photos for nom ceremony (already?) NT

Jul 31 2003 10:57, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453127				Link
HGs still in backyard...taking down pipes from comp and chit chat about comp....
Nate mentions that he's a meat eater One of the girls says that blue had more of an advantage having three guys. Someone points out that red had two guys and that either way, there would be an uneven amount of guys. Jun says she was staying out of the way during the comp. Red team members are looking seriously dejected. Dana says she took a chunk out of her finger during the comp. She also comments "What, does everything he (Nate, I'm assuming) does have to work out for him? I swear, I'm turning into a f'ing atheist (???)" Dana then comments how she is going to leave so skinny. Jun concurs.

Jul 31 2003 10:59, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453134				Link
Rob says "I think I'm going to take a penalty nom and eat...maybe Wednesday....F them!"....
Dana "We used too many small pipes. Look at theirs, they used all big pipes" Jun: Justin knew exactly what he was doing....look at theirs Dana cusses under her breath

Jul 31 2003 11:07, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453168				Link
HGs allowed back inside - changing clothes. FOTH - crew members seen setting something up NT

Jul 31 2003 11:07, Thu	ktan	Forum: 073103 Post: 453169				Link
Camera being setup at FOTH...possibly for David's interview? NT

Jul 31 2003 11:19, Thu	ktan	Forum: 073103 Post: 453214		Parent	Root	Link
Confirmed -- David outside with reporters. NT

Jul 31 2003 11:15, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453194				Link
Erika and Jee making PB&J sandwiches...Jee says he "had a feeling" he'd be on PB&J this week....
Ali decides to make a PB&J, too. She comments that this is the first one she's had since they got in the house. And "sorry guys, but this is making me sick". Nate laying down in blue room Ali (still in kitchen) says she thinks it's back to sleep for her

Jul 31 2003 11:31, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453268				Link
Dana and Justin laying in bed (all feeds) - Dana has look of disbelief on her face. NT

Jul 31 2003 11:35, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453287				Link
D & Ju still laying down. D says "Holy crap, I can't believe I've been on two losing teams for that crap (PB&J)....
J says he can't believe that he's been on two winning teams. D says that's crap D says she can't lose any more weight. Ju suggests she eats bread - a lot of it D can't believe she goes from being HOH to eating PB&J and being nominated. "This house sucks".

Jul 31 2003 11:35, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453289				Link
D says when she was HOH, there were 5 people making decisions...all Ali has is Nate..."that's bad" she says...BB tells them to put on their mics NT

Jul 31 2003 11:42, Thu	n2deep	Forum: 073103 Post: 453333				Link
Dana and Justin laying in bed while she Sucks on candy when on PBJ diet! NT

Jul 31 2003 11:45, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453351				Link
Jun says "We have candy????" Dana & Jus "Ssshhhh" Dana smiles and says "I found it" NT

Jul 31 2003 11:46, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453356				Link
Dana tells Jun and Justin that she hates that "Golden boy is having a golden week" - she'd love for him to have to eat f'in PB&J...
Jun thinks the comp was totally geared towards guys (she's now laying in bed with D and Jus). D says that she and Erika were looking like it as a puzzle She also says the two mistakes were that they used all short pipes and their connectors were too far away from numbered hoops (??) Justin doesn't understand what she's saying...she tries to clarify D says BB should give them a lot of fish this week, just to piss off Nat (who prefers red meat) Justin jokes they should poisin their food this week Jun says something like "Ali, it's good to leave chicken out on the counter for a couple of hours"

Jul 31 2003 11:50, Thu	ktan	Forum: 073103 Post: 453384				Link
Uh oh -- Dana ordered to the DR! NT

Jul 31 2003 11:50, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453385				Link
Dana called to the diary room NT

Jul 31 2003 11:53, Thu	ktan	Forum: 073103 Post: 453408				Link
Dana leaves DR, says she got in trouble, tells Jun not to say anything about her dream. NT

Jul 31 2003 12:12, Thu	ohclancy	Forum: 073103 Post: 453492				Link
Survey around the feeds: F1&2: Jack, Nate, Jee playing cards F3&4: D and Jus in bed NT

Jul 31 2003 12:13, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453494				Link
F1 & F2: Nat , Jac & Je are playing cards
je says that competition did not work out for him but he thought it was fun anyway (can see Dana & Jus on F3 & 4. Jus is going to sleep. Dana is looking around but her eyes are flying half-mast, she'll be out soon) Ja, Je and Nat are laughing about the card game. Ja says "I'm going to get coffee after that disaster" (apparently Jac had a lousy hand or played it poorly" They're telling Je he can have coffed Ja says "I'd like to have steak and eggs right now" Nat smiles and wishfully says "Oh, STEAK AND EGGS" They continue talking about the game

Jul 31 2003 12:15, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453501				Link
Je ask when the cermony will be. Jack says "It was about this time last week that somebody took my key" NT

Jul 31 2003 12:33, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453575				Link
Nat goes to make a PB&J (he was on the winning team, they must not have restocked the house yet) NT

Jul 31 2003 12:33, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453580		Parent	Root	Link
Nat says "Looks like my refrigerator at home. Bare" NT

Jul 31 2003 12:34, Thu	Strange_Brewster	Forum: 073103 Post: 453581				Link
Nobody else posted this so...Justin was seen rubbing Dana under the covers. NT

Jul 31 2003 12:47, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453620				Link
N,Je,Ja playing cards..having fun...Ju keeps rubbing da under covers NT

Jul 31 2003 13:25, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453716				Link
Je,nate talking in LR
Nate Je talking about girl friends..Nate just said he likes ali, but never be girlfriend because he doesn't trust her, she a flirt. He like the innocent girls, not ali. Je talking about girlfriend, and he likes his girls to be 150% his.etc...they talking girls.Nat just met girl right before he came to house, they went on 2 dates, says she(the girl) is going to be anethesialogist(SP??) and she is awesome girl, he really likes her. ja just came back to LR.NT

Jul 31 2003 13:29, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453730				Link
Nat about the girls he attracts..
nat says his first girlfriend in college was the bomb, but was unstable . ...he says"why do I always attract the unstable girls" he says they pretend to be innocent, but turn???

Jul 31 2003 13:30, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453734				Link
Je,nate,ja playing cards again...nothings significant..or interesting NT

Jul 31 2003 13:33, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453746				Link
Je says if his girl is the right one, he is going to have to give it up and propose to her. he thinks she is(the one)
nat he thinks the girl(from college he met right before he left for bb) is not going to be there when he gets out...he told her he was going to be gone only few days to month(he couldn't tell her where he was going.) she will prob. be with someone else when he gets out he says, but he really likes her alot.NT

Jul 31 2003 13:43, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453773				Link
F1on ju,da asleep F4 on someone else asleep(can't tell)F2 F3 on LR
Ali just woke up and said hi to nat,je,ja..then dissappeared,she not on any feeds now..NT

Jul 31 2003 13:46, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453787				Link
BB"Justin please go to the DR" Nat"he's asleep man"..je"they always call him when he is asleep." NT

Jul 31 2003 13:47, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453790				Link
All 4 feeds on LR with nat,je, ja...don't know if ju got up and went to DR.. NT

Jul 31 2003 14:17, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453896				Link
Lock down is over. They can move around the house. NT

Jul 31 2003 14:18, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453899				Link
BB "nat please go to DR"..nat sighs.. NT

Jul 31 2003 14:25, Thu	nojobny	Forum: 073103 Post: 453925				Link
Ju & Ali talking noms in the HOH
She wants to put Jus up against Dana, using him as a pawn. She's asking for his feelings about it. He'd rather not be in that position, but he's willing to go with the flow.

Jul 31 2003 14:26, Thu	calgal	Forum: 073103 Post: 453932				Link
justin on live feeds says.. if robert or jee are on the block, there is
no way i'd vote for dana to stay and she knows that.

Jul 31 2003 14:27, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453938				Link
Ali makes a deal with Jus
Ali tells Jus shes' not after him and if he agrees not to come after her then she won't put him up. She says shes going after Dana so Dana doesn't get her first. She reasons that she could put up Dana and Jun or Dana and Jus as a decoy. Al ask if he would vote for Dana or Jun if he had a choice and he said he would vote Jun out. They toss around combinations. He says If she puts him up then she cant get mad if he ever puts her up. He says he'd rather not go up and she says that she'll work something out. She says what if she put up Dana against Je or Robert and he says he'll have to vote Dana out The only way Dana would stay is if she wins VETO that everyone knows that. They all have agreed to honor the origingal alliances. Dana and Jun would stick together. Jus ro and Je will stick together. They start to talk about her predicting that she would win HOH. The laugh about how that happened.

Jul 31 2003 14:28, Thu	SleeplessOnLI	Forum: 073103 Post: 453941				Link
N, Ja&Jee's convo(re:card playing)is eerily parallel to BB gametalk. Ex:Jee:"I was losing & I've fought my way back."and similar convo from all 3. NT

Jul 31 2003 14:30, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453946				Link
Je,ju..je is cheating in cards since nat in DR...ju says stack cards where all are bad..je"no he'll know, i'll just do a couple". Now je leaves and al
comes to talk to ju and she says who do you want out? and he says i'm not going to tell you. (talking fast..too fast for me to type all, so when convo over i will summarize)Ali telling ju who she thinking of putting up and saying they(ja,nat,e) wants him out, but da more so. says she would put jun and da, but she thinks they would(je,ju,R) would get jun out.ju says yes.. She says she wants to use ju as a pawn and jus doesn't want her to. she says ok. ali say(whispers) "I don't trust Er or Ja" ju "you shouldn't" Ali says what if she puts je up with da, ju says he would vote da out..he has alliance stronger with je. she says(ali) that she didn't have anything against da "that girl" until she started stuff with her. Ali say ju pissed her off last week because ju went and told everyone about the hot tub..ali says one night she got up and heard da say "that bitch" and it hurts her that ju sits back and doesn't stick up for her..(he saying things to cover up and changing subj...playing her emotional side) he just keeps talking etc...NT

Jul 31 2003 14:30, Thu	nojobny	Forum: 073103 Post: 453947				Link
Ali told Jus that she was mad @ him yesterday for not sticking up for him during the live show when Dana was bad mouthing her. NT

Jul 31 2003 14:34, Thu	nojobny	Forum: 073103 Post: 453958				Link
Jun was just at the door of the HOH listening while Jus&Ali talk about noms. NT

Jul 31 2003 14:37, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453970				Link
Ali says to just she heard about the deal they made with dave. just says no that was dave and ja idea, they came to us. NT

Jul 31 2003 14:39, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453978				Link
Ali just said nate is a dumbass NT

Jul 31 2003 14:39, Thu	Lola	Forum: 073103 Post: 453980				Link
More on Ali and Jus
Jus says "We were together for 7 months. Obviously you have some good qualities, one or maybe 2". He laughs and says "Just kidding" They talk about Nat. Ali says she will not put him up cause he saved her *ss. But after next week then thats it. She says she buttered right up to him cause he saved her *ss. She says that she would not behave scandlously with him (Jus). She was just thinking that if she did put him up to fool everyone else so they wouldn't know they have and agreement. He again reminds her that then if he put her up later she can't get mad. Ali ask if Jus would get mad if she got his girl friend out. He said no, he'll be more upset if she got Je or Robert. They're kicking around combinations. Jus says he would not take Dana off with POV cause then she'd have to put in Je or Rob. Now Jus is spillin his guts that even Ja wanted Nat put up. Ali tells Jus that Nat hate both Jun and Dana

Jul 31 2003 14:43, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073103 Post: 453990				Link
ali"does rob and je hate me" just sayd no they hate nathan, because of the hot tub.
ali say nat says he thinks he is the best?? and she says i just won the last 2 comp you ***** retard(about nat)..(they talking alot of ***** about nat..ali is dogging nat bad...)NT