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My opinions on Ian's final speech...

447

02/06/13 08:54 AM

I can’t beleive anyone is still leaning on the “bitter jury” crutch

253

02/06/13 08:53 AM

Meh, My opinion is they were, but bitterness is just one of many factors a HG should include with their strategies.

13462

02/05/13 07:55 PM

I can't believe anyone cares at this point. NT

02/13/13 06:15 AM

BBAnnie

02/07/13 05:10 PM

Very surprising BBAnnie.I think many BB fans who care enough about BB think this issue exposes a flaw in the format of the show.Do we want BB juries

Its human nature to do most things on a personal level. So if a player wants to play by burning their opponents and making them look like fools...

02/14/13 05:43 AM

bbwarrior

04/26/13 05:36 PM

Yes! BB is a social game, moreso than Survivor. You have to live with the people you're secretly plotting against, The social game matters. NT

unclevanya

02/17/13 11:41 PM

Perfectly put... NT

bbwarrior

04/26/13 05:37 PM

I vote not to change the rules of Big Brother. Maybe some other game can have rules that restrict the jury to voting on strategic game only,

I want them to vote however the heck they want, like they always have. NT

02/17/13 09:18 PM

Who are any of us to dictate what the show is or should be?

02/17/13 09:01 PM

Because its the truth. The jury did not want to award a former contestant. Maybe Brittney over Dani or Frank. Dan should of taken Dani. NT

02/17/13 07:03 PM

Adamlovechild1

02/06/13 02:41 AM

You seem to ignore or forget the most important point

So true, so very true ~ NT

02/07/13 05:58 AM

Actually, Dan took Ian to the F3 after Ian gave up at the F4 after he lost the veto. Ian didn't try to make any deals on his own nor was he

02/17/13 09:19 PM

02/07/13 06:02 AM

Trees, Meet the Forest

So it was Dan's decision.He saved his arse.LOL. NT

02/07/13 06:15 PM

Why Dan saved Ian has nothing to do with the fact that Dan saved Ian. Without Dan's unilateral action Ian was out of the game.

02/10/13 12:07 PM

I'll try to make this simple. Dan evicted Shane, NOT saved Ian. NT

02/07/13 06:24 PM

Yes, I don't see that as making Dan superior to Ian, rather more the fool Dan. NT

02/07/13 06:33 PM

Augustkm

02/07/13 07:26 PM

Ian would have been evicted but for Dan's action. Dan acted and thus Ian was saved. Dan's motivation is irrelevant. Without Dan's action Ian

Same can be said for when Dan gave up at F3. Ian saved Dan and took him to F2 NT

02/07/13 06:37 PM

Karina86

02/08/13 01:37 PM

Dan didn't give up at F3. He threw the last HOH because he knew Ian would take him over Danielle. It was a calculated move. Ian giving up at F4

Some of us believe that deciding the winner should be based on gameplay and not on who is friends with whom,or who already has $500K.

02/09/13 06:58 AM

I'll try again; if Dan told Boogie that nobody could beat Ian at the end, what gave him that impression and why didn't Dan get rid of him? NT

02/05/13 08:31 PM

If Dan thought Ian would win why didn't he get rid of him? NT

02/08/13 01:59 PM

He tried and BB set up Shark Fin a comp ONLY IAN COULD WIN. NT

02/06/13 02:11 AM

So, why didn't any of the brilliant minds get rid of Ian when there were comps IAN COULD NEVER WIN? NT

02/09/13 07:09 AM

CubbyPuppy

02/12/13 07:51 AM

That didn't look like something "only Ian could win."

02/09/13 08:37 AM

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!! NT

He was definitely the favorite to win at that type of comp. NT

02/10/13 12:08 PM

Shoving something along a maze? Why? NT

02/09/13 08:39 AM

A maze like that favors someone with an engineering background. Ian said he quickly figured out that each section had 3 paths and 2 of which were

02/09/13 08:42 AM

And Ian also figured out that he only had to wipe off the names on the final comp while Dani wiped off the whole face. Intelligence ~ NT

02/09/13 08:51 AM

Exactly so. Pure logic. NT

02/10/13 12:52 AM

Ian's good at identifying patterns quickly. He said himself that it was easy once he figured that out. NT

02/09/13 08:53 AM

Skill at pattern recognition is a sign of intelligence. IQ tests usually test you for pattern recognition ~ NT

02/09/13 08:48 AM

Interesting. One shot at Ian ... 3 at Shane. Who was the bigger threat? NT

02/10/13 12:56 AM

Dan wanted to get Ian out first and then Shane so he could get to a D/D/Jenn F3 and then take Jenn to the F2 because that was his best remaining

02/09/13 07:16 AM

No Ian wouldn't be bitter towards Dan for voting him out. He's not that type person. Also, there's no way Dan would've been put up if Ian was

02/09/13 07:40 AM

Another key wrench thrown in Dan's plans was Shane's deal with Ian at the volcano HOH. It led to QP2 and the end of any chance of a floater advancing.

02/10/13 12:23 PM

Dan had already talked to Shane before that to smooth things out.The QP went in reformed.They quacked when they were the last

02/09/13 07:49 AM

Yep. Ian wanted that HOH because he wanted to get back at Frank for having evicted his BFF Britney. That points to Ian's DR session where

02/10/13 12:10 PM

There was no rush getting Frank out no matter how good he was at comps. Just let him think he has an alliance then vote him out the following week

02/09/13 08:05 AM

Sort of for the same reason, after Boogie's eviction, Ian didn't want to nominate Frank and have him eligible to play in the veto, but wanted to

02/10/13 12:30 PM

And if he had won veto as a non-nom he saves Ashley. NT

02/09/13 08:41 AM

Ashley wasn't on the block. She was Frank's replacement when Frank used the veto on himself. Had Frank not been nominated they may have nominated

02/16/13 05:35 AM

Backdooring Frank would have been the smart move and it is what Ian wanted buy you have to wonder why Ian who was HOH and could do what he wanted

02/16/13 08:37 AM

He wanted to work with his alliance. He spent hours, literally, trying to explain to Dan, Dani, and Shane, and he succeeded. Then, the next day,

02/09/13 08:53 AM

Loyalty to his alliance. NT

02/16/13 08:46 AM

Loyalty to his alliance and Ian don't belong in the same sentence. :) NT

02/09/13 08:55 AM

02/09/13 08:56 AM

02/10/13 03:40 PM

02/09/13 08:57 AM

Yup, backdooring Frank was the smart move. NT

gameplay = manipulating, dealing, and making others like you, or dislike, as it suits your need for the week, game. NT

02/09/13 08:44 AM

the real point is that calling them a "bitter jury" means nothing. if they were bitter, then it was dan's fault. NT

02/05/13 08:50 PM

I couldn't agree more. NT

02/05/13 08:03 PM

Dexter

02/05/13 08:45 PM

Disagree. I can see why they'd be that way but since they're grown adults, it's on them how to react to the game and moves Dan made. NT

Grown adults can be mistreated just as much as children can ~ NT

02/05/13 08:13 PM

I always agree with you CJ but I HAVE to disagree on this one. Dan played the best game, no competition, but a bitter Jury IS something

02/08/13 02:00 PM

what? seriously? i couldn't disagree more. a big part of the game is managing the emotions of your opponents. maybe the biggest part. no jury is

02/07/13 10:31 AM

You can't manage the jury once they leave the house and get together and talk NT

02/05/13 08:46 PM

Adamlovechild1

02/06/13 02:42 AM

This is true as well, which is why I hate the unavoidable fact that they are sequestered together. BUT, once again, you can argue that

Exactly. This "voting on game" business implies that there is some criteria as to what constitutes "game" that juries are supposed to refer

02/07/13 10:33 AM

^ some TROOF with a side of wisdom NT

02/05/13 08:53 PM

tv_savage

02/06/13 07:02 AM

The "This "voting on game" business" business made me genuinely laugh.It sneaked up on me. NT

Always nice to know you brought a smile to someone. Peace. NT

02/05/13 10:25 PM

02/06/13 01:02 AM

Applause! NT

Not a crutch for me, they literally said it. NT

02/05/13 07:59 PM

They said "bitter jury?" Or is this that figurative use of the word literally? NT

02/05/13 07:57 PM

CubbyPuppy

02/05/13 08:01 PM

Frank admitted to being bitter and turning two others on him, and Britney said the entire JH was totally against Dan, that they were bitter. Does

No because his jury management was abysmal, a huge part of the reason he LOST the game. NT

02/05/13 08:14 PM

AwfuLeeHandsome

02/05/13 08:33 PM

Ian did ZERO jury management.Actually 'abysmal' would a complimnet to Ian's JM.Btw,in my opinion,jury management in BB

If you really believe that, then I can see where you might be deluded into thinking Dan played a great game NT

02/05/13 08:38 PM

THE greatest game ever. even 70% of tv fans after his crappy edit can see that. NT

02/05/13 09:17 PM

Dan had a crappy edit? You really think that? NT

02/05/13 10:46 PM

YEAH!The unprovoked evil edit.Meanwhile everyone around him got golden edits[Dani Ian Frank Shane Brit]. NT

02/06/13 02:17 AM

Dan gave himself the evil edit. I wish I had it recorded but I don't. He played the villian voluntarily as I remember it ~ NT

02/06/13 04:25 AM

Uh oh you just called me deluded.Oh boy your gonna get it now.LOL. NT

02/10/13 12:59 AM

The "you" in my post was a generalized "you," not a specific yoyo "you." I'll re-word it. If one seriously believes that then I can see

02/05/13 10:23 PM

02/06/13 01:03 AM

02/06/13 04:26 AM

02/06/13 10:09 AM

Leaving Ian out of the equation for now....if there are two people left at the end and one is abysmal, the other need not be stellar to beat that

you don't have to be the fastest runner during the zombie apocalypse, you just have to be faster than the slowest dude. NT

02/05/13 08:57 PM

But the zombies run right past the slower dude because he's covered in ketchup and they can't smell him and they come for you anyway.LOL. NT

02/05/13 09:01 PM

Zombies don't like ketchup? Do they prefer mustard? :) NT

02/05/13 11:09 PM

It was a ref to Brit's ketchup statement.LOL. NT

02/05/13 11:11 PM

LOL. Yeah, I caught that. NT

02/05/13 11:21 PM

It was also a veiled ref to the Walking Dead.The zombies don't smell humans if they're covered in zombie blood. NT

02/05/13 11:24 PM

Really. Haven't watched. Better add that to my Zombie Apocalypse To Do list. NT

02/05/13 11:35 PM

I'm not up on my Zombie rules and True Blood keeps changing the vampire rules NT

02/05/13 11:39 PM

LMAO. Very true. Well put. NT

02/06/13 08:47 PM

Request: Rank All English Speaking BB's (US/UK/AU)

02/05/13 09:34 PM

tv_savage

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02/03/13 12:22 PM

My thoughts on Dan's gameplay in Big Brother 14...

bluejay27

542

02/03/13 05:34 AM

Awesome, glad that it was moved here. I'm a huge Dan-fan so automatically I agree with you. : ) Im also a huge Ian fan, though, so I like how

Very well put and I completely agree. NT

02/05/13 07:11 PM

Here it is.How production tried to fark up Dan's game:

02/03/13 05:47 AM

319

01/26/13 04:12 PM

BB14 wrap up.

That was nice to read. You had alot of good points! NT

637

01/11/13 09:38 AM

lluvmycats

01/11/13 09:57 AM

Thnx.Looking forward to BB15. NT

Dan's BB14 finale commentary - damage control

01/11/13 10:00 AM

BBenthusiast

3057

12/06/12 09:15 PM

Thank you. Very good post. It was a fitting finale to the whole thing when Ian skunked Dan~ NT

My long long-delayed response...

01/22/13 01:55 AM

awesome. i hope ppl read it. NT

01/09/13 06:10 AM

01/15/13 12:58 PM

Very nice. NT

Excellent post and well thought out. You gave good reasons for all your opinions. I don't agree with all of them but I enjoyed reading your

01/09/13 05:10 PM

Great article, I agree completely. NT

12/12/12 03:45 PM

Kimberful

12/09/12 08:45 AM

Wow, thanks for taking the time to write this all out. Agree with most of it, just the Bible stuff...eh, that never bothered me that much, but, like

Yes,God punished Dan by giving him $80-130K and making him the star of BB14 and a BB legend.

12/07/12 05:58 PM

01/11/13 10:15 PM

LMFAO! NT

VERY well thought out post. I liked the time you put behind it and the emphasis you placed on each of your points with supporting content. I disagree

01/12/13 04:10 AM

I like yours too! And I KNEW there'd be such different opinions on this intriguing HG! That's why we watch BB, and argue about it on Jokers! NT

12/06/12 09:33 PM

BBenthusiast

12/07/12 02:48 PM

What are your Top 10 Funniest Moments on BB? Here are mine:

Jameka praying while Jen in a bunny suit calls for white belts to go with the costumes. NT

2633

10/26/12 06:42 AM

treefrog

11/23/12 06:50 PM

LOL -- excellent one! NT

lol thanks for the memories

11/28/12 09:31 AM

Belle

10/26/12 02:13 PM

Lol...the Jordan chest bump was hysterical. Are you talking about Cowboy with the twin twist? NT

i dont know what number 4 is.. NT

11/08/12 07:12 PM

Watch this about 50 seconds in

10/26/12 02:11 PM

BigJeff making fun of Ronnie's HoH pictures NT

10/26/12 02:16 PM

Dulcie

10/26/12 02:14 PM

"Why We’re Obsessed With Reality TV"

How do you feel about HGs selling things on eBay after the season?

408

10/13/12 03:42 PM

BB IS TRASHY ALREADY! Don't misunderstand me. I love trash:) Arguing that selling items "cheapens" the BB experience is just silly. NT

7252

10/02/12 01:40 AM

Canucklehead

10/09/12 10:32 PM

So how about Dan selling his "commentary" for the show episodes? NT

Wonderful idea...and I think most people would pay to have their faves do it. Glad Dan is my fave. Thanks for asking. NT

10/09/12 09:49 PM

GetEmDrunk

10/10/12 03:21 AM

Yup. I think if someone's fave gave their thoughts this way and were selling it, those that wanted to would definitely buy it and/or be interested

Ian is my favorite this season, but if he tried to monetize my fandom, I wouldn't go for it. I probably wouldn't be a fan anymore, frankly. NT

10/13/12 04:45 AM

Selling his commentary is the ultimate masturbatory act and he BELIEVES we are his arm and hand

10/10/12 11:13 AM

Fascinating commentary. NT

10/10/12 03:17 AM

Awesome, I'm interested in buying it. I think you're buying into Dan's reality show persona a little too much. NT

11/26/12 06:32 PM

Jenson

10/13/12 10:24 PM

It's a good thing that it's optional, his opinion and you don't have to buy a single thing he's selling, isn't it? He's not forcing it on anyone. NT

he is selling them to his fans not to his haters. NT

10/13/12 04:44 AM

10/10/12 02:54 PM

Winner! NT

ELPhill

10/12/12 12:10 AM

Ian is the winner. NT

Not for writing a true statement that I replied to. NT

10/12/12 02:14 AM

ELPhill

10/12/12 11:27 PM

A true statement is that Dan is selling things because he’s a raging narcasist and megalomaniac. NT

Actually, that's an opinion. A true statement is that grass is green, the sky is blue, and that water is wet. NT

10/13/12 04:16 AM

We are of one mind on this topic, it seems. :) NT

10/13/12 04:43 AM

I don't care. I am fascinated by who and why buyers buy though. No photo of a reality star is worth it to me, but to each their own. NT

10/10/12 08:54 AM

money

BB14DANFAN

10/09/12 06:55 PM

Painter

10/09/12 06:16 PM

It's their item not ours. If they see a potential to profit, then good for them and good for the buyers who may not get a chance to play BB. NT

BBPuppets

10/08/12 08:52 PM

Tacky. Unattractive. NT

It's tacky, IMO, but to each his own. NT

10/08/12 10:45 AM

It bothers me and it doesn't:

10/06/12 02:11 PM

BoPeep

10/06/12 10:53 AM

I'm torn too...

bbfan661

10/07/12 01:39 PM

It doesn't really bother me, CBS makes more off them than they make off their own eBay ventures, I'm sure. NT

Theory about Coaches entering . . . or "Let's Save the Season!" (long)

10/02/12 10:14 PM

supercn

5351

10/01/12 12:23 PM

I think they planned on bringing in coaches the whole time...

KevW007

10/01/12 03:20 PM

i agree in addition to the memory wall having key places for the coaches IMO that was the best piece of evidence it was decided from day one NT

Belle

11/06/12 06:16 AM

I agree. The whole "coach" fraud was only to keep the vets safe long enough for them to establish relationships/alliances, whatever. Just like

I agree with some of what you said. Although I'm pleased Ian won, this season was not my favorite

10/08/12 10:45 AM

ITA with your post! NT

Lizaanne

10/01/12 02:44 PM

ratts

10/01/12 02:34 PM

Sorry to say but I think I disagree with pretty much every thing you said. :D IDIC, I guess. :) NT

Linenosie

10/01/12 01:03 PM

I disagree completely; if anything the alternate plan was to let coaches enter if they lost their entire team (eg Dan/Dani). NT

melandhal

10/01/12 12:58 PM

we will have to disagree. but there is no doubt in my mind that bb

uvp

10/01/12 12:33 PM

I believe they thought they'd get a nearly full season of gaming from Janelle or Britney, at least.

supercn

10/01/12 12:38 PM

they couldve kept the coaches

I have to think they planned for it because the cast was composed of just as many clueless noobs as the last season they had a vets/noobs split NT

10/01/12 12:33 PM

AwfuLeeHandsome

10/01/12 12:31 PM

They certainly planned for it, just not as Option 1. There were many blunders/errors to get them to where they needed to shoot that gun. NT

supercn

10/01/12 12:39 PM

naw season 13 was dreadful

those three didnt have any game either NT

10/01/12 12:35 PM

uvp

10/01/12 12:48 PM

There were stronger competitors this season among the noobs but not one of them had any game sense whatsoever. They were lambs to the slaughter NT

AwfuLeeHandsome

10/01/12 12:37 PM

Dan did a Murzt Chat tonight and gave a "redo" of his F2 speech, here's what it was, transcribed verbatim:

Great, accurate speech even tho I was not a Dan fan this season. NT

4494

09/29/12 10:23 PM

Love Dan, but dont think this speech would have gotten him the win. NT

11/03/12 02:16 PM

RealityAddictNC

10/22/12 05:43 AM

Yikes! You suck. I'm great. Give me the money. Not my preferred outline for a F2 speech. NT

Douchey and smug to the end, that Dan. NT

10/16/12 04:48 PM

Yep. At least he stays in character, as unappealing as that character may be NT

09/30/12 07:12 PM

Better than the original but still pretty bad when the object is to win votes. In fact, it's close to Dr.Will's awful speech in S2. Assuming

10/01/12 12:37 PM

NomDePlume

09/30/12 09:35 AM

Totally disagree! Ian WON and earned and deserved the win. NT

11/03/12 02:20 PM

BB14=charity case. NT

No matter who you're rooting for, it's a final speech. He's not going to say "Vote for Ian, he deserves it more than me". NT

11/26/12 08:56 PM

NomDePlume

11/06/12 06:08 AM

That's a good speech! I would have liked to hear something like that too. NT

RealityAddictNC

10/22/12 05:44 AM

^That's good also. NT

robin86

10/01/12 11:58 AM

When he got to the part about a non-personal game, he did say "I never made a remark about someone's weight" NT

Thank you for this! EPIC NT

09/29/12 10:55 PM

BB_Fan_JJ_Dan

09/29/12 10:27 PM

Seriously awesome. NT

A Reminder of How Good a Coach Boogie Actually Was!

09/30/12 11:39 AM

MoonDesire

2532

09/28/12 03:07 PM

Boogie's final speech in season 7 was awesome. NT

Anyone know anything about this comment? "Did you know that Ian is one of the people who maintains the Wikipedia Big Brother page?" NT

11/03/12 02:22 PM

The comment is toward the bottom of the blog post. NT

09/28/12 06:40 PM

I would give Boogie more credit as a coach if he didn't dump Ian and Jenn for a bromance with Frank. NT

09/28/12 06:43 PM

DiamondK

09/28/12 03:09 PM

That may speak more to him as a person than a coach :) NT

MoonDesire

09/28/12 03:26 PM

I am not a really big Boogie fan at all....but he did give Ian good advice in the beginning of the game. It is a shame he didn't keep all his team...

DiamondK

09/28/12 03:35 PM

Some Information about the Houseguest Inteviews

BestBBEver

10756

09/23/12 12:53 PM

I loved your interviews and read them all, Great Job NT

SunnySunshine

09/26/12 10:16 AM

Wow! Didn't know you were criticized for your interviews. I think you did an excellent job and appreciate your articles. NT

NomDePlume

09/24/12 09:24 AM

You did the best you could under the circumstances. No one rational expects Jokers to be hard-hitting reporting. It's FREAKIN ENTERTAINMENT! NT

Canucklehead

09/23/12 10:09 PM

Your interviews have been my favorite this season. They've all been done incredibly, especially Dani's. I see no fault with what/how you asked NT

bosk

09/23/12 07:41 PM

Great post and thank you for the explanation. I agree with you decisions and reasoning. I wouldn't want Jokers to be a site that will humiliate HGs NT

LuckyLizzie74

09/23/12 03:57 PM

Thanks I loved your interviews read them all! NT

nch962

09/23/12 03:26 PM

Great article. I agree with you. There is too much hate. They are people playing a game for our entertainment, we were entertained. Thanks, HG's. NT

katidid

09/23/12 02:10 PM

You did a wonderful job interviewing, enjoyed all of them, especially Dani's. You asked some tough questions but had the respect to change it when

Jewelsforu

09/23/12 02:08 PM

I don't think you ever would have satisfied some people with your questions and/or the answers you received. Using Dani as an example, I'm still

Corndogger

09/23/12 02:05 PM

Thank you

futbolfan07

09/23/12 01:50 PM

I have enjoyed your interviews this year NT

current

09/23/12 01:39 PM

I truly appreciate your interviews, always have. You do NOT have to do them, so the fact, alone, that you do is a bonus for us here at Jokers.

SCDrMom

09/23/12 01:26 PM

Thank you for your hard work. I'm sure it's not easy to do. NT

ShootMe

09/23/12 01:19 PM

ps. I especially appreciate people ignoring the typos as I rush to get the interviews to print. Have a wondeful Autumn & a happy 2013! NT

BestBBEver

09/23/12 12:59 PM

I honestly think you asked questions that most of us want to know - whether we're fans of the person or not. I really appreciate your hard work NT

1newsensation1

09/23/12 12:57 PM

For those claiming Dan "controlled" Ian...and that should automatically have eliminated him from winning

Dan controlled Ian's HOH noms and strategy.Btw you forget that Ian WENT to Dan b/c Brit had told him to work with Dan.He did Boogie's Brit's

2320

09/22/12 09:56 PM

Ian was definitely in the dark at times during the game. He'll be surprised watching the season back. Almost nothing will surprise Dan. NT

11/26/12 06:18 PM

tgo007

09/24/12 01:12 AM

Being "in the dark" isn't the same as being "contolled by someone else" which was the specific point my post was trying to address

Your argument is basically that Ian just happened to want what Dan wanted. I think Ian is a valid winner but certainly not because of this. NT

09/25/12 04:23 PM

coaster33

09/23/12 12:12 AM

Great point. Dan definitely wanted Ian to throw the last HOH comp, but he refused. NT

Canucklehead

09/23/12 11:07 AM

No, my argument is that Ian wanted many things that Dan didn't want and got them so it shows he played his own game when he had to NT

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09/23/12 09:21 AM

WxRachel

2404

09/21/12 07:44 PM

I do like it. Here's some expansion on it

Butterbean13

09/23/12 11:31 AM

Wicked idea ... however, sounds pretty expensive. NT

Interesting idea. The winner of the second go around should get a bigger prize IMO. NT

09/23/12 01:15 PM

Capital Idea... and t hat is why...

09/23/12 11:08 AM

Spacefarer

09/22/12 02:45 PM

Just off the top of my head, I thought of this

If those who believe a bitter jury was why Dan lost the game, then in reality he lost the game on Day 30 when

09/21/12 10:09 PM

The 4 coaches def should have stuck together but it didn't happen, you're right he needed them in jury ~ NT

3168

09/21/12 03:09 PM

“I am what I am, and that’s all that I am.”

09/22/12 02:47 AM

Every jury is bitter

tgo007

09/22/12 12:56 AM

True, he screwed himself by screwing over the people who vote for the winner NT

09/22/12 03:12 AM

Hadn't thought of that

barnsey

09/21/12 06:57 PM

DeeDee

09/22/12 02:55 AM

Yeah Dan started to enjoy getting bloody and it went to his head ~ NT

Short. Sweet. Concise. True. Thanks. NT

09/22/12 02:53 AM

09/21/12 05:36 PM

The Story of Ian and Dan

Go watch the video of the 3 on "The Talk" and rethink your argument. NT

2048

09/21/12 06:42 AM

No thanks. This is my analogy, it's subjective. NT

09/21/12 05:26 PM

Lol...great story. Young hunter turned that gun & aimed it back at Big Hunter, paid him his pittance for his lesson, & boom! Little Hunter got the

09/22/12 05:02 PM

BreachofTrust

09/21/12 06:54 AM

No, no no you forgot the part about the animals they hunted down didn't like Big Hunter AT ALL and decided to get him back whatever way they could.

In defense (kinda) of the jury - (long-ish)

09/21/12 06:59 AM

‘The devil will tell a thousand truths to sell one lie.’” NT

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09/20/12 11:14 PM

Shay

09/22/12 09:05 AM

To most first-time players, including jury members, BB is not "just a game". It's a potentially life-changing amount of money and fame. Or infamy. NT

09/21/12 01:29 PM

Let me begin at the end.

None of that matters. Bitter jury, yes. But, regardless, noobs vowed night of reset never let a coach win. Interviews since have confirmed this.

09/21/12 04:14 AM

buckshot

09/21/12 07:04 AM

Then, in reality, Dan lost this game on Day 30 (well before any of his great moves) when he failed to Mist Boogie and Jani into working together NT

I agree with you all the way. I would get so aggravated when they LET Dan do the things he did

09/21/12 03:15 PM

Dan's "gameplay" or "lifeplay"?

09/21/12 02:50 PM

RobbTN

09/21/12 09:01 AM

I certainly don't disagree with you ... our tendencies in life will always bleed over into a game being played.

What you see is seldom what you get

09/21/12 03:00 PM

Yeah, I think Dan saying he threw part 3 means he got the questions wrong on purpose. It was pretty obvious, he wouldn't have missed all of those NT

09/21/12 05:53 PM

Herman666

09/21/12 04:20 AM

Very good points and thoughtful analysis of how people think, feel and react - thank you. :-), NT

Beru

09/21/12 01:08 AM

Save it. NT

jillpole

09/21/12 12:26 AM

Question about $3k that Mike Boogie gave to Ian....

northvanamy

2828

09/20/12 02:17 PM

Boogie was REQUIRED to give that money to someone other than himself (He took the $6K prize himeself). It was never Boogies money at any time! NT

Right. He was awarded 6k, 3k, and 1k. He had to decide who got what.

09/20/12 04:09 PM

frustratedposter

09/29/12 01:43 AM

It wasn't Boogie's money it was BB money. NT

BlondeMoment

09/20/12 03:04 PM

Why would he? He may give it to someone who didn't win anything, but not Boogie. NT

Evil_TX_Redhead

09/20/12 02:20 PM

Because Boogie gave it to him and he won $500K....just wondering. NT

northvanamy

09/20/12 02:24 PM

Ian doesn't owe Boogie jack sh¡t. NT

I didn't say he owed him anything.

09/20/12 02:37 PM

northvanamy

09/20/12 03:43 PM

Ian, Dan, and the "bitter" Jury. Essay inside

Jonny2fngrs

5445

09/20/12 10:03 AM

Great assessment! NT

Dan fan and very proud of him & his game! I don't think he played a dirty game at all. I think he played THE game...Big Brother! No rules except no..

09/23/12 01:29 PM

buckshot

09/21/12 07:21 AM

Dan has no one to blame but himself for his poor jury management. NT

ELPhill

10/06/12 12:58 AM

No such thing. NT

"No rules" applies to the jury as well. If the jury doesn't vote the way Dan wants, its DAN's fault, not the jury. They are PART of the game! NT

11/26/12 06:43 PM

I love well thought-out responses to the game - not too long for me! Thanks :-) NT

09/23/12 02:42 PM

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09/20/12 11:26 AM

09/20/12 10:07 AM

Haha...just realized tl:dr means "too long didn't read"...Understood but some things cant be conveyed in a couple of sentences :) NT

Jonny2fngrs

09/20/12 03:25 PM

This In Depth. Go long. NT

Dan used grenades when rocks would have been sufficient. Too bad he didn't save this ammo for an allstars season, where he would need it.

09/20/12 06:53 PM

Shea

09/20/12 10:07 AM

Well put. NT

This post says it perfectly. Great game but unnecessarily bloody down the stretch NT

09/23/12 01:19 PM

barnsey

09/21/12 07:16 PM

Agreed. It wasn't so much being "dirty" as this, imho. He overplayed and was just fortunate that they didn't "talk" to one another

That bothered me also. Dani was already psychologiacally questionable, this may put her over the edge NT

09/21/12 03:47 PM

Jonny2fngrs

09/20/12 11:19 AM

Actually, I think Dan blew his chances at win with his final speech and answers to questions...I was

It's possible that the jury never would have voted for Dan either way, but regardless I agree that Dan could have handled the Q/A better

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09/20/12 09:09 AM

barnsey

09/21/12 07:27 PM

Listen to Britney's interview with Jeff. She said a bottle of ketchup could have won against Dan with this jury! And meant it! NT

Then he should have played the game to get more "vets" in the jury rather than get them out so soon. ED and the vet alliance knew that last year NT

09/20/12 04:17 PM

Booger wouldn't allow it. NT

09/21/12 03:48 PM

nan1

09/21/12 03:49 PM

Which showed his misting wouldn't work well on vets and proves why he didn't play the best game ever as some claim NT

Dan said in his interview with Jeff he (made the mistake) of thinking he could mist the jurors. NT

09/22/12 05:46 AM

Augustkm

09/20/12 02:40 PM

No way.... That bitt ass jury was never going to vote for him NT

katerade

09/20/12 02:16 PM

I haven't seen Jenn or Frank interviews on this matter, but I think they truly could have voted for Dan had things gone differently during Q&A... NT

Evil_TX_Redhead

09/20/12 02:18 PM

Nope. They refused to give the money to a coach. It's on the feeds & their interviews. NT

buckshot

09/21/12 07:24 AM

I agree. Dan went too far with his arrogance & ego this year.

RobbTN

09/20/12 10:04 AM

I think he's like that all the time. Today he was schmoozing Julie on Twitter...He's just not real or sincere; he's always got an ulterior motive NT