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I'm a Janie fan and an Eric fan. Both. I don't care one way or another who sent banner planes. Who cares? Let it rest. NT

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09/04/07 01:47 PM

Janie, you're not really dumb enough to hang around someone like Dick, right?

09/06/07 11:11 PM

09/06/07 04:03 PM

HI, Do you know Pete? NT

Who the heck is Pete???? NT

09/06/07 01:29 PM

09/06/07 04:01 PM

bad tony NT

09/06/07 01:31 PM

:::::::::::::::::flee NT

lol, "BooEffingHooo!". That pretty much sums up this season of BB for me. Luv ya Janie :) NT

09/06/07 01:32 PM

Sandy2u

09/06/07 10:18 AM

meh, let 'em complain, so what, come chat with us! NT

starrysky

09/06/07 09:34 AM

Unfortunately, you will always have a very thin line to walk.

the_scotsman

09/06/07 01:12 AM

not a huge Eric fan, but I think fans of each have whined and complained to an extent when their person was in trouble...just lots of devoted fans! NT

Cynbri

09/05/07 08:02 PM

I mean Janie is the best player ever but..Eric's only mistakes are the ones caused by AP. Otherwise his game was flawless.

klipto123

09/05/07 03:20 PM

I wouldn't say that Janie is the best player ever because she never won NT

jdogg71

09/05/07 11:01 PM

I'm a Janie fan AND an Eric fan AND a Dick fan (LOL, is that possible?)

Wow talk about drama I am not an eric fan but he has played the game the way the dr has told him to and has done remarkably well. I used to b a jani

09/05/07 01:16 PM

brandeelee

09/05/07 12:14 PM

For someone so confident, that comment really put someone in meltdown mode. NT

You still think Janie sent that banner? If so I have a Bridge in Brooklyn that is for sale.......... NT

09/06/07 08:03 AM

Janelle did arrange for the 1st banner to be sent - asked people to donate towards it NT

09/05/07 03:31 PM

Only Janie knows her level of involvement with the banner, and it sounds like she's saying she had some prior knowlege of it, but wasn't the one who

09/05/07 03:33 PM

Janie, the people in chat and the people in discussion that day know she arranged for it and came back in chat after it was realized that

09/05/07 08:18 PM

I remember this day..... I wish there was proof floating around but there isn't. She was saying *we* are flying a banner etc etc

09/05/07 10:04 PM

Kixx

09/06/07 12:24 PM

But where did she say it? In chat? on HC, where? NT

in chat (on HC she denied having anything to do with it) NT

09/06/07 12:36 PM

Did she say what the banner said? NT

09/06/07 12:38 PM

yes she did Blonde and also said she was thinking about sending another on Thursday NT

09/06/07 09:39 AM

What did it say? Thanks NT

09/06/07 09:47 AM

it was something about Nick not lying. I'm not saying she sent the one the HG's saw during the comp. NT

09/06/07 09:53 AM

Thanks again. She sure was/is a Nick fan. NT

09/06/07 09:58 AM

I don't know if it was or wasn't. But she did post that she had something to do with one, and might do with another. NT

09/06/07 10:02 AM

09/06/07 10:01 AM

09/06/07 09:47 AM

09/06/07 09:49 AM

What world do you live in? NT

09/06/07 09:09 AM

09/06/07 09:09 AM

09/06/07 09:20 AM

IMO she organized the whole thing but didn't spend her $$ so she can claim innocent

I don't care if she did it or if she lies about it. Everyone lies. And if she lied to avoid having rabid BB fans fuss at her, then good for her . . .

09/06/07 05:59 AM

MomTo2

09/06/07 10:03 AM

that level of Janelousy will make your face break out NT

Bilbo - Janelle is flat out lying - Belle is not jealous of anyone tyvm NT

09/06/07 06:01 AM

09/06/07 09:36 AM

I believe Janie. :-) NT

so, everyone that is confirming what was said is lying? NT

09/06/07 09:47 AM

Nah, I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding. I'd like to see the chat log. NT

09/06/07 09:51 AM

for some reason, this former HG doesn't like transcripts made of her chats (wonder why) and a chat op alreadyc onfirmed it in p/x in a discussion

09/06/07 09:51 AM

Have we heard from the chat op this week on it? I just don't get why it's so important to prove Janie is lying. NT

09/06/07 09:54 AM

I don't really care if she's lying or not. I just don't get why its so important to prove that she's without faults. We all have em. NT

09/06/07 09:59 AM

I'm a huge Janie fan, and I'd never say she (or me or anyone here) is without faults. NT

09/06/07 10:04 AM

Which is why I love you. :) NT

09/06/07 10:06 AM

I thought it was my bodacious tatas :-) NT

09/06/07 10:07 AM

They're the frosting on the cupcake. NT

09/06/07 10:08 AM

Mmmmmmm, frosting on my bodacious tatas then? NT

09/06/07 10:19 AM

I love candy on top, too. (Now I'm hungry) NT

09/06/07 10:20 AM

Yeah, but you know how in those chats, giving an answer to one question seems to be the answer to a different question since it moves so fast. And,

09/06/07 10:21 AM

several posters have also confirmed it (see below in this thread). NT

09/06/07 09:57 AM

09/06/07 10:01 AM

lol, Yeah, I saw. NT

So do I understand this correctly. Janelle sent a banner but not the one shown on TV? I am not

09/06/07 10:07 AM

According to Janie, she sent NO banners. She said that the week most of the banners flew, people had.......

09/06/07 09:57 AM

I totally agree! ............ NT

09/06/07 09:59 AM

09/06/07 10:03 AM

she's lying NT

No one but Janie knows what the truth is, and saying she's lying doesn't make it the truth. NT

09/06/07 10:02 AM

except when it is the truth NT

09/06/07 10:10 AM

You can't possibly KNOW that though. Typing it 50 times doesn't make it any more the truth than typing it once. And we'll never know, regardless of

09/06/07 10:12 AM

i guess there is the 51 time we'll win you over NT

09/06/07 10:14 AM

I just don't have this overwhelming need to have everyone here hate Janie, like it appears some people do. Belle, you know I DETEST Will, but I

09/06/07 10:15 AM

lol marley you have terrible taste and will is the bestest so there NT

09/06/07 10:17 AM

If you like egomaniacs, yes, he's the bestest Belle :-) NT

09/06/07 10:18 AM

She seemed believable enough to me. NT

09/06/07 10:19 AM

I really, really want you on my jury if I ever do anything wrong and wind up in court LOL NT

09/06/07 10:09 AM

I'd hate to have someone on my jury that was blinded by hate and decided on guilt before deliberations even began. NT

09/06/07 10:13 AM

From what I have gathered is Janelle did say something about sending a banner in chat. I can't

09/06/07 10:18 AM

The bottom line is this...EVERYONE will interpret both what she has said and what others have said differently.

09/06/07 10:24 AM

strkaholic

09/06/07 10:27 AM

Well, strk, the way I interpret what YOU are saying is.....

thats not how i interpreted it steve NT

09/06/07 10:32 AM

Really? You might want to read over it again, then. :-D NT

09/06/07 10:34 AM

That's how I read it too Steve. NT

09/06/07 11:08 AM

That's only because you're very wise. :-) NT

09/06/07 10:34 AM

That Steve is right? :-) NT

09/06/07 11:05 AM

*waits patiently for a good sig line* NT

09/06/07 10:35 AM

I think being lunch monitor has gone to your head. :-P NT

09/06/07 10:36 AM

lol, Get outta here, BM! :-P NT

09/06/07 10:34 AM

09/06/07 11:07 AM

:-) NT

ah strk, the neverending voice of reason. :) NT

09/06/07 10:35 AM

Isn't she? Thanks Strk! NT

09/06/07 10:30 AM

<glaring at Blonde> LOL.....even my daughter laughs at how much I dislike Will NT

09/06/07 10:30 AM

Your daughter has good taste. :-) NT

09/06/07 10:25 AM

She doesn't like him either, she just thinks it's funny how MUCH I don't like him NT

09/06/07 10:26 AM

09/06/07 10:27 AM

thank you blonde NT

yay blonde :) marley is just silly about will she probably secretly luvvvs him NT

09/06/07 10:25 AM

LOL Belle......I couldn't possibly secretly love him less than I do NT

09/06/07 10:25 AM

09/06/07 10:26 AM

I'm with her ^^ :) NT

09/06/07 10:24 AM

and thank you too CR NT

lol, It all comes down to the proof. :-P NT

09/06/07 10:26 AM

i suppose if steve was jury there would be no blond beautiful women in jail LOL NT

09/06/07 10:14 AM

thats cuz you luvvvvvvvvvv her NT

09/06/07 10:14 AM

09/06/07 10:09 AM

Doesn't everyone? ;-) NT

09/06/07 10:15 AM

So do I :-) NT

Janie NEVER lies!!!! hands pitts some

09/06/07 10:12 AM

09/06/07 09:39 AM

LOLOL!!! NT

I really expected to open this one to find

09/06/07 10:23 AM

09/06/07 09:56 AM

:-) NT

she does LIE, she is a LIAR and for some reason, rose-colored glasses must be the rage NT

09/06/07 09:57 AM

09/06/07 09:48 AM

I agree with Pitts!

**smooch** it's always good when the truth is told NT

09/06/07 09:39 AM

ROFL! I just noticed your avi! NT

09/06/07 09:44 AM

09/06/07 09:40 AM

Its Eric :) NT

I know that is why I am laughing. NT

09/06/07 09:41 AM

Hi Janie. I'll admit I was a little ticked about the banner planes. I guess I misunderstood your JU chat about the banners. I like Eric

09/06/07 09:43 AM

Inquirer

09/05/07 09:49 AM

Dani did laugh hard at Eric's comment. NT

To me that was a nervous laugh, like OMG, I can't believe you said that... not a laugh because she thought it was funny. NT

09/05/07 11:10 AM

JoyfulNoise

09/05/07 01:33 PM

No, it was more like a evil catty laugh that Dani thinks she's so much better than Janelle. NT

Thats what I thought too. NT

09/06/07 07:32 AM

dem

09/06/07 10:28 AM

In no way has Dani said anything bad about Janelle. She adores her. NT

Dani adores Janelle because Janelle showed that she likes Dani. I am not sure how Dani felt before. NT

09/06/07 09:13 AM

What was that all about anyway? It wasn't funny. It's not like her to laugh @ Eric's comments. Dani will regret laughing when she sees it. NT

09/06/07 09:42 AM

SkyeBlue

09/05/07 11:28 AM

Blaming or accusing Janelle for ruining Eric's game is ridiculous.

pinkyspork

09/05/07 09:27 AM

I think Dani/Eric are the best gamers in the house. Personally, I don't think you have influenced the game at all this year. NT

Hi Janie! I am a Janie fan spoiled by BB6/7! I do like D/D, there is something about Eric I just can't put my finger on! NT

09/05/07 09:20 AM

Sydney2

09/05/07 09:12 AM

Some of us are rebels, cross lines, march to our own drum beat; ergo, I like Janie and I like Eric. :-) NT

Painter

09/05/07 08:55 AM

LOL Ditto! I'm independent! I vote ISSUES! ;) NT

09/05/07 09:25 AM

We are sympatico! :-) NT

Painter

09/05/07 09:35 AM

Indeed! NT

I guess I am an Eric fan, and I have never blamed you (or anyone else for that matter) for the banner. NT

09/05/07 10:31 AM

09/05/07 08:16 AM

eric never made me mad

I am so glad you posted this! I do have an opinion and I'm glad you'll get to see it!

09/05/07 07:35 AM

JoyfulNoise

09/05/07 06:55 AM

I'm an Eric fan (at times). Certainly not a die hard fan, though.

Klipo

09/05/07 04:44 AM

Hi Janie I am an Eric fan but I do think I am more of a Jess fan before Eric she makes him tolerable. Now myself not for a moment have I thought you

I am an Eric fan, hell, I like D/D too. I might not agree with alot of your comments but I am not gonna blame you for this game. NT

09/05/07 12:44 AM

jdogg71

09/04/07 11:54 PM

Yes, please post! Please come around! You know better than anyone

lovinthewill

09/04/07 11:36 PM

Janie, I will try one more time to reply to you, my first one was locked (not sure why).

observer9

09/04/07 10:54 PM

Eric has described himself as a nerd and I think a lot of his actions are due to lack of self-confidence...

09/05/07 01:39 PM

Eric still has fans? NT

Yep and I am one of them :) NT

09/04/07 09:44 PM

Are you related to him? NT

09/04/07 09:44 PM

Nope, just one of my favorites. NT

09/04/07 09:49 PM

What impresses you about him? NT

09/04/07 09:51 PM

09/04/07 09:59 PM

Are you a Dick fan?

Dick is totally worthless. BB (and obedient voters) kept him around and now the house is BORING and PREDICTABLE. NT

09/05/07 10:44 AM

And you sound like ED best fan NT

09/06/07 03:58 PM

I like the way he has juggled the game and the AP at the same time. I think he is pretty smart but is limited in his game play.

09/05/07 03:36 PM

I guess, but it seems to me that he just does what the show wants, and is VERY mouthy.

09/04/07 10:01 PM

yeah, but that's kind of more BB's fault not Eric's fault. NT

09/04/07 10:20 PM

jube

09/04/07 10:43 PM

Good point. The AP twist ruined this season, I think. I want to see the best (not the most "entertaining") players make it further. NT

Janelle, I was a huge fan of yours during Seasons 6 and 7 and rooted for you to win. I also happen to be a fan of Eric's this year.

09/06/07 04:00 PM

As always, I think people like to generate drama. Saying you sent the plane somehow makes it so much more interesting to them....

09/04/07 09:41 PM

Tweeds

09/04/07 09:32 PM

I'm a Janie fan AND and Eric fan....and I have a question about when you said you're rooting for D&D because they're

jube

09/04/07 08:12 PM

The first people out of the Group of 7 were D&D... I do think of D&D as underdogs, more so Dick. NT

JoyfulNoise

09/05/07 06:58 AM

Eric is the underdog outside of the house, but D&D are the underdogs inside the house. I am amazed and happy they have made it this far. NT

But they're NOT the underdogs inside the house. For most of the game,

09/05/07 04:54 AM

I agree that Zack is an underdog as well, and I do like him also. the reason I see D&D as underdogs, is because they have been targets since the

09/05/07 05:29 AM

It's also given them a built in advantage, and I have to say that Jen and Kail were the real underdogs this season..

09/05/07 05:44 AM

She's not answering questions she is asking them.. NT

09/05/07 07:05 AM

AngieBaby

09/04/07 08:23 PM

I'll leave that to JANELLE. She replied to someone else below... NT

jube

09/04/07 08:44 PM

No you can't just chat and voice your opinion, by no fault of your own some take what you say as Word.. NT

AngieBaby

09/04/07 08:10 PM

LOL I think you are right! NT

Whirley

09/04/07 08:11 PM

Janie, I just have to know...do you really really think the Dick is hot? NT

Whirley

09/04/07 08:05 PM

Janie - you may be a "regular fan" but you are the best player ever - you are fabulous!!! NT

Tootsie

09/04/07 07:59 PM

Janelle! It's great to see you here and to read your comments! It's a shame that the Eric "fan's" can't see Eric's

suzy1600

09/04/07 07:36 PM

I'm a janelle fan, but NOT an eric fan or dani fan or a dick fan. But I am a jen fan. It's funny how...

it's possible to be a janelle, and an eric fan, and i never understood all of the nick love, and eric hate that is just me NT

09/04/07 07:10 PM

Janelle, I am so happy you are here and posting under your own name. No coward, our girl Janie!

09/04/07 06:02 PM

LondonBluue

09/04/07 05:58 PM

Dani just telling Jess there'll be 3 players in next HoH comp is pretty darn stupid

JCubed

09/04/07 05:41 PM

Dani's not playing for the jury is what's really stupid! NT

I think people are upset because you let your feelings be known when it comes to the HG's. The HG's are not supposed to get outside info because it's

09/04/07 05:42 PM

banners have been a part of BB since the beginning, and I don't see that changing. We have no idea who sent the banners as in more then one, nor will.

09/04/07 05:32 PM

a mod texted her the banner company info, J was asking people to contribute towards the cost, she came back here after the 1st banner was sent

09/05/07 05:19 AM

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who remembers that. NT

09/05/07 05:25 AM

nanakat

09/05/07 01:24 PM

I totally remember that too.. and I remember there was a lot of discussion about whether it was fair or not etc etc in the Discussion Forums NT

Kixx

09/06/07 12:10 AM

thank you nanakat - I can't believe that only a few seem to remember NT

Aren't there chat transcripts? I vaguely remember wondering into chat and reading something about banners and

09/05/07 01:43 PM

Whirley

09/05/07 04:54 PM

She KNEW Eric was AP and this was going to be deterimental to his game play. She did screw with his game. Sad. NT

this is true :( and i was in the chat...i am so disappointed NT

09/06/07 07:34 AM

canadaluvsjoker

09/05/07 07:05 AM

thank you so much : ) NT

09/05/07 07:06 AM

yay pitts validation NT

yep (and much appreciated) NT

09/05/07 07:05 AM

I wish it hadn't been dumped. As I said in the past, I don't really have a problem with banners, and consider them just another part of the game.

09/05/07 07:07 AM

I can understand fans doing it but not prior HG's. The wording for the banner is in BBFAQ but I believe it said something about

09/05/07 09:16 AM

Thats not what I read, can a mod verify this? NT

09/05/07 09:22 AM

read where? The chat op did confirm it in px NT

09/05/07 05:46 AM

Tried searching for it, but couldn't find any confirmation by a mod that Janelle said she sent the first banner, nor could I find where a mod

09/05/07 05:54 AM

discussion is dumped every day so there is no record of it still - apparently px was dumped also because the person

09/05/07 06:10 AM

09/05/07 06:15 AM

Interesting. :-P NT

interesting disc is dumped? we all know that. so nothing is saved for long NT

09/05/07 06:22 AM

I thought it was all archived? would explain why search didn't turn anything up lol. NT

09/05/07 06:36 AM

I believe only media and updates are archived NT

09/05/07 06:49 AM

yep thats why if someone post mainly in disc alot of posts won't show up

09/05/07 06:51 AM

Steve, you were there in px when it was confirmed NT

09/05/07 06:51 AM

Why is it on Janelle (or anyone) to be responsibile for what others assume ? NT

09/05/07 06:23 AM

Well Dani and Dick said what they thought by Janelle's actions, and from what I just saw Janelle treated the HG's differently, I personally felt she

09/04/07 05:57 PM

We all were not able to watch the feeds and only saw what happened on the show. I certainly didn't see that Janie was being biased at all!!! NT

09/04/07 06:42 PM

09/04/07 08:13 PM

I agree Denise. NT

dem

09/04/07 07:49 PM

or another way to see it

OK, sure they could've genuinely liked her, but then what about the HG's that don't like her ie Eric? should he be subjected to bias because

09/04/07 06:53 PM

very well said Denise ITA NT

09/04/07 07:15 PM

edd305

09/04/07 09:48 PM

Oh Wow! There's a sh*t-load of difference between "falling at somene's feet" and showing them genuine respect. Janie may not like

but how does HER opinion affect the game adversely ?

09/04/07 08:11 PM

I disagree. First of all, she DID act fake. You don't honestly believe she's attracted to Dick, do you? Especially since she was on Housecalls

09/04/07 07:31 PM

The only thing that bothered me about her hosting was when she was leaving and hugging all the HGs

09/04/07 09:20 PM

Whirley

09/04/07 09:26 PM

Really? I liked that she said that.

cricket

09/05/07 09:23 AM

DING DING To win at the game, you play it the way it is, not the way you think it would be if it were perfect. NT

I agree . Why should she be someone she is not ? The Game is the Game just the same . NT

09/05/07 09:24 AM

But my problem started when Janelle dissed Eric in the Shoutbox here at Jokers while waiting to be picked up to host the Veto competition. I felt that

09/04/07 07:53 PM

It gives an opinion to others that she doesn't like a particular HG, which means nothing game-wise. And the HG don't know what was said outside

09/04/07 07:37 PM

Exactly. They have no knowledge of anything she's posted or said.

09/05/07 09:28 AM

cricket

09/05/07 09:31 AM

so, you are saying she should have been fake ? NT

I think she was asked to host a competition, and yes she should've looked past the comment Eric made and act more professional. She could've spoken

09/04/07 07:40 PM

"professional"? Please, she was hosting a fricken POV comp and was there to have some fun too. She hugged Eric goodbye. What f8ckiung more should

09/04/07 07:47 PM

If she was paid then she should've acted Professionally. NT

09/04/07 08:06 PM

She did act professionally. She was paid to make an appearance as JANIE, not some robot.

09/04/07 08:08 PM

cricket

09/05/07 09:36 AM

If she effected anyone's chance at POV's, it was Dick's. He couldn't concentrate worth a crap.....lol. NT

But Dick flirted with her and said she had a rawking hawt body LOL NT

09/05/07 09:37 AM

LOL. So true, Marley. NT

hare

09/05/07 09:51 AM

09/04/07 07:54 PM

"act more professional"

If she got paid to host then I think she should've acted more professional. Kind of like 2 actors who may despise 1 another, if they get paid to do a

09/04/07 07:51 PM

But she is not an actor . She went into that house as herself . Just like everyone else did . NT

09/04/07 07:56 PM

Well if we're going to look at it like that then why I can't I just go in the house and say to Jameka "you suck" LOL, I wouldn't do that

09/04/07 08:01 PM

uummmmmmmmmhuuuummmmmmm but on the show she was never rude as the " Host " she was polite . But what she says and

09/04/07 08:06 PM

Well if she has every right as a fan to say what she wants, then why is megaphone lady and banners banned? She can say what she wants out of the house

09/04/07 08:10 PM

Its called proper perspective on The Game . NT

09/04/07 08:13 PM

IA with this but do we really feel like she was biased towards some of them ? NT

09/04/07 08:15 PM

I personally felt like she was nicer to Dani/Dick then to the others, and to me saying 153 or whatever that phrase is that Dani mentioned on the feeds

09/04/07 08:14 PM

she said her favorites where Dani and Jess, and she was nice to Jess as well. Yet no one seems to have a problem with her being friendlier to Jess

09/04/07 08:18 PM

wasn't that discussion about 153 because Janelle was asked if she knew about any codes? Meaning the HGs *asked* her what she knew, jokingly, since

09/05/07 05:31 AM

I'm sure Eric/Jameka/Jessica and Zach feel differently, especially since the only people raving about Janelle in the house are Dani/Dick. NT

09/04/07 08:22 PM

I agree Denise - I didn't realize that happened in the shoutbox - puts a whole new spin on it NT

09/04/07 08:35 PM

I've been waiting for a good answer to that question for days now. Maybe you'll have better luck. :-) NT

09/04/07 07:38 PM

In my opinion, the adverse affect would be pretty much the same as if they saw a banner plane.

09/04/07 07:34 PM

the only way one can find an adverse affect is to look for one and judge Janie's actions with the info we have, or think we have, about

09/04/07 09:27 PM

I agree, and dangit who would have thought I would be defending Janelle over the last few days...LOL

09/04/07 07:44 PM

RedBB

09/05/07 08:51 AM

You're very wise, Elle. :-) NT

but Dani was guffawing at his comments - the show gave the impression (to me and others) that Eric wasn't cheered on the same - of course, I blame BB

09/04/07 07:48 PM

Eric said himself that Janie cheered for him ... just like she cheered the others. BB does edit things so we'll never know all of the details. NT

09/04/07 07:47 PM

hare

09/04/07 07:53 PM

dang I wish we saw comps on the feeds :-) NT

I guess I really didn't see such a drastic difference in how they were treated *unless* you were privvy to how Janie felt about Eric going in. I

09/04/07 07:54 PM

I would just like to point out that Dani said several times after the POV that Janelle HATED Eric.

09/04/07 07:51 PM

But yet they had the best chance to replace J/J with Eric and then vote him out and they DIDN'T. Janie's

09/04/07 09:30 PM

terlu

09/04/07 10:41 PM

Nah, she was laughing at what a dumbass Eric is. :-) NT

Janelle wasn't even out there yet when Dani was laughing NT

09/04/07 07:48 PM

Yeah, but it was still a dumbass thing to say whether she was there or not. NT

09/04/07 07:51 PM

lol but we are talking about Dani and her laughing it wasn't b/c it was a dumbass thing to say

09/04/07 07:53 PM

ITA. And both Dick and Daniele have had nasty things to say about

09/04/07 07:54 PM

nanakat

09/05/07 01:34 PM

really? I've never read where Dick and Dani said that about Janelle, do u or could u provides some links please NT

RedBB

09/05/07 02:07 PM

What? I've never heard that or read that. I've only seen them say good things about Janie. NT

Well, I guess we'll just have to wait until Daniele wins & is out of the house & ask her what she was laughing at. :-P NT

09/05/07 01:36 PM

no one knew Janie was there she was tapping Eric and laughing her ass off at his comments not at "what a stupid thing to say"

09/04/07 07:57 PM

You're missing my point. It was a stupid thing to say, whether Janie was there or not. Miss Piggy? Give me a break. NT

09/04/07 08:02 PM

IMO those swirling morphed pictures ALL looked like Miss Piggy! NT

09/04/07 08:04 PM

Whirley

09/04/07 08:06 PM

so then Dani was an idiot for laughing and thinking his comment was funny right? NT

iggy dear, are you trying to confuse things with logic again? lol :) NT

09/04/07 08:05 PM

it's hard when Dani is put on a pedestal and can do no wrong...I'm a huge Janie fan

09/04/07 08:07 PM

i know. :) i'm on your side! janelle in no way affected the game by any of her actions since no one outside of a message board

09/04/07 08:10 PM

Hey, if you're trying to take my line, I always say logic AND common sense. :-P NT

09/04/07 08:12 PM

lol i'm not sure you can take that line for your own, dear steve. :)

09/04/07 08:08 PM

FYI - Iggy and I are different posters who think alike LOL NT

09/04/07 08:10 PM

09/04/07 08:06 PM

LOL! NT

lol, No, man. I think she was laughing because Eric is a dumbass, not at the remark itself. NT

09/04/07 08:11 PM

nah...I think she was laughing b/c she thought it was funny

09/04/07 08:06 PM

Or did she know? All the pink probably tipped her off. NT

09/04/07 08:08 PM

Whirley

09/04/07 08:10 PM

then you'd have to agree that Dani was just as stupid NT

For laughing at Eric's idiotic remark? No. NT

09/04/07 08:04 PM

I understand you Steve. I took it as laughing at Eric, like 'omg i cant believe u said that'. BUT...

09/04/07 08:05 PM

lol, Exactly! You let me know what you think when you watch it again. :-) NT

09/04/07 08:08 PM

I didn't think it was funny NT

09/04/07 08:10 PM

Exactly. It was a dumbass remark & she was lauging at what a dumbass he is. I'm glad we agree finally. :-P NT

09/04/07 08:06 PM

sorry - unless you agree that they were both idiots, we aren't agreeing LOL NT

09/04/07 08:07 PM

Can I agree you two are idiots??? :p

09/04/07 08:19 PM

you can agree that Steve is LOL NT

09/04/07 08:21 PM

Ok..that works for me ;) NT

09/04/07 08:26 PM

she found it funny and laughed NT

09/04/07 08:27 PM

all you have to do is watch the show again - it clearly shows Dani laughing her ass off BEFORE Janelle came out NT

09/04/07 08:18 PM

Janelle was on the other side of the comp wall thing when Eric said it and Dani laughed.

09/04/07 08:00 PM

Yep! NT

Brendabythebay

09/04/07 08:01 PM

Brendabythebay

09/04/07 07:53 PM

exactly...she didn't know Janie was there she was just as shocked NT

You need to give it a rest Denise.

09/04/07 07:52 PM

09/04/07 07:25 PM

I just love you Janie NT

In Eric's defense, you did insult him on Housecalls (but he couldn't hear it) Hurts when the insults are coming rather than going. NT

09/05/07 11:55 AM

jdogg71

09/04/07 11:52 PM

We're not allowed to point out hypocrisy. Anyways, she is wrong that Eric fans are just leftover people that don't like her. I have ALWAYS liked

Hey Janie. Ignore the haters. BTW, you looked stunning tonight and I would have loved to see how well you would have played the POV NT

09/05/07 08:05 AM

I'm entitled to my opinion as much as you're entitled to yours, and I totally disagreed with what you said hence my expressing my opinion! NT

09/04/07 08:18 PM

Janie what did you think of Jess....she seemed to be really excited you were there NT

09/04/07 07:33 PM

Good question. Jessica was very happy to see Janelle, told her she was beatiful, etc. What kind of reaction did she get?

09/04/07 07:30 PM

I was wishing you would have smacked him. You looked gorgeous as always. Ignore the haters. NT

09/04/07 09:34 PM

abb412

09/04/07 07:29 PM

I appreciate your effort of using logic and common sense, but it rarely works this time of year. :-D NT

I am a 24/7/365 girl, you know that NT

09/04/07 05:59 PM

have I told you lately that I love you? NT

09/04/07 06:05 PM

09/04/07 05:01 PM

**gag** hmmph NT

Why do you assume that Eric fans are automatically Janie haters? Can I not be fans of both? Eric's game is not over yet. I have a feeling he will

09/04/07 05:04 PM

ColossalWasteOfTime

09/04/07 04:57 PM

I would never assume that Eric lovers are Janie haters. Hell my best friend ( Naters) is one of Eric's biggest

Wow Janie! I bet you didn't know that you had all this power to ruin someone's game when you're not even in the house this year! LOL Eric ruined

09/04/07 07:52 PM

I am an Eric and Janie fan. NT

09/04/07 08:29 PM

**stalks** I am a fan of neither NT

09/04/07 04:58 PM

I'm more of a Pitts fan :) NT

09/04/07 05:00 PM

wow - I'm a Tony fan - go figure NT

09/04/07 05:02 PM

First off Janelle, I want to say I am a fan of yours. The late night escapades

09/04/07 05:03 PM

09/04/07 03:38 PM

IA NT

Oh Janie, you will never be "just a fan" as you put it. Sorry you are upset. Just take pleasure

09/04/07 03:55 PM

BBDiva

09/04/07 02:59 PM

I'm in agreement with this poster - but I'm not a rabid fan like the ones you're talking about. There are elements of each player that I really don't

Lynzrocket

09/04/07 03:07 PM

Oh, yeah. I forgot - Janie - 1 5 3. NT

Lynzrocket

09/04/07 03:08 PM

When fans are so fricken die-hard for another HG, they'll look to blame anyone they can for that HGs problems. Sure,

good post, but I disagree with the comment about Janelle being influencial w/fans. Sure this may be the case with some fans, but even in the

09/04/07 02:57 PM

BuxomandBrunette

09/04/07 04:11 PM

Great post! And Janie, don't let 'them' get to you. MANY of us just adore you and don't buy into any of the crap 'they' try to sell! :-) NT

WillsDollFriend

09/04/07 03:04 PM

Dani's game vs Eric's game

Eric isn't able to make his own choices and he knew this going into the game. therefore, he should have altered his strategy at the very beginning to

09/04/07 02:54 PM

You say it yourself, he can't make his own decisions..

09/04/07 03:08 PM

A great gameplayer is one who takes all the obstacles that they know upfront and alters their plans accordingly. Since Eric was

09/04/07 03:19 PM

Dani's 'obstacle' was her father in the show as an 'enemy'..

09/04/07 03:30 PM

09/04/07 06:06 PM

correction:

Thanks for the correction, that was the intention NT

09/04/07 06:12 PM

Eric was doing great and his play was spot on until he fell in love..now it is just icky and no more strategy. NT

09/04/07 06:20 PM

Kinda hard to work a strategy with no power.... But I partially agree. NT

09/04/07 03:09 PM

He had A LOT of power. He just couldn't make the call on who he was going to vote out. But he had as much

09/04/07 03:11 PM

I understand that and respect your opinion. My point is this week he has none and cannot work a strategy this late in the game with no power. NT

09/04/07 03:31 PM

Yeah. He's kinda screwed for the rest of the season now. What he CAN do is that

09/04/07 03:42 PM

Or possibly win HOH thursday and put them right up.. He has as good of a chance as the other 2. NT

09/04/07 03:45 PM

yep, that's what I'm hoping - and either D/D goes home NT

09/04/07 03:47 PM

09/04/07 03:49 PM

::gives Pitts a wedgie::

I don't like any of them at this point - I'm rooting for Jam and Zach in the F2 NT

09/04/07 03:50 PM

09/04/07 03:51 PM

I don't like Jameka.

**backs away from the possible lightning bolts**:::::::fleeeeee NT

09/04/07 03:52 PM

Stop stalking me and trying to get on my good side :) NT

09/04/07 03:53 PM

I am NOT stalking you - I just want both groups of 2 broken up LOL NT

09/04/07 03:50 PM

Well you could have lied and said you were, I have an ego you know :( NT

09/04/07 03:51 PM

LOL - ok, you caught me, I was stalking you to get on your good side - Happy now? NT

09/04/07 03:51 PM

09/04/07 03:52 PM

Extremely :) NT

If Eric gets HOH he would be a fool not to target D & D. NT

09/04/07 03:53 PM

and Eric doesn't have to live with his a** of a father. She has better game...admit it. NT

09/04/07 03:47 PM

Cottonball

09/04/07 02:56 PM

Actually, Eric is the better player

btvsrcks

09/04/07 05:56 PM

Query for you - re comment that you said something that Dick overheard - is that true?

fin

09/04/07 02:46 PM

I may have thought Eric was an ass. But no I did not say to Dick that Eric was an ass. NT

I have thought that myself for quite a while now. NT

09/04/07 03:02 PM

KittenX

09/05/07 08:58 AM

Of course she'd think Eric is an ass when it was obvious she heard what he said about her. Dick wouldn't immediately jump to other conclusions. NT

Anyone would think Eric was an ass if he acted that way to us. I actually now can't stand him even MORE now that he did that! NT

09/04/07 02:55 PM

I love it when you say his name ;) NT

09/04/07 03:33 PM

Jumping Dick......how's that? NT

09/04/07 02:56 PM

Or was I supposed to say Eric? LOL NT

09/04/07 02:58 PM

09/04/07 02:58 PM

No not Eric :) NT

Janie has already responded to these allegations and posted what actually happened. NT

09/04/07 02:59 PM

Cottonball

09/04/07 02:55 PM

excellent post Fin NT

Canada fans are hardcore! LOL...Always a pleasure to see Janie! NT

09/04/07 02:48 PM

TO Janie

NancyOttawa

09/04/07 02:32 PM

BBDiva

09/04/07 02:47 PM

ha! i noticed the subject line before I realized who the poster was. Love it! NT

Carrot_Stick

09/04/07 02:32 PM

It is getting absurd. It's a shame you can't enjoy the game,just like the rest of us, and say what you want, just like the rest of us....

NuttyBBFan

09/04/07 02:30 PM

Naaaaaa, I'm an Eric fan and dont blame you for anything. Your both entitled to your own opinions, of the game, and each other. NT

I agree with you, Dani has played a much better game than Eric, even though you mention Eric's only redemption was the F4 alliance with Dick and Dani,

09/04/07 02:23 PM

Grunchie

09/04/07 02:20 PM

Janie-you have every right!

hoxharding

09/04/07 02:06 PM

No, it's not fair. The "blame it on Janie game" is getting old, not to mention absurd... *DELETED*

observer9

09/04/07 02:05 PM

this discussion will not turn into discussion about each other NT

Isn't that exactly what Janie's topic line is doing? NT

09/04/07 02:06 PM

Dad_of_a_Troop

09/04/07 08:04 PM

You have every right! NT

PorkPop

09/04/07 01:54 PM

Great post Janie! I'm tired today and I kept reading the last line of your post:

09/04/07 01:51 PM

Restrooms(line reading)

hoxharding

09/04/07 02:07 PM

you know you can NT

Need your input on a few questions (for Marcellas)

09/04/07 01:51 PM

Jokerette

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09/02/05 02:58 PM

I would like to ask Maggie why she kept saying American hasn't seen everything

Sandi4Cs

09/09/05 06:34 AM

James told her that, early on, I think

frustratedposter

09/10/05 02:12 AM

Really? I'm sure James knows they show what happens in there and

Sandi4Cs

09/14/05 06:24 AM

Yeah, made it fun for us. Thanks James :) NT

Gianni

09/14/05 06:31 AM

Ask about the Friendship's pact to share the prize money.

Jochie

09/06/05 02:38 PM

What part of going through then hiding Janelle's personal belongings falls under playing with intergrity and honor?

janka

09/06/05 02:19 PM

Both Ivette and Maggie have made slandering remarks about Howie's and Janelle's (at least) parents - H & J apparently are so evil that their parents..

Astros

09/04/05 01:25 PM

Wow, you've opened a can of worms! I'd like to ask .....

Un-Islamic????Your comments aren't filled with the milk of human kindness,either.Pot,kettle=black. NT

09/04/05 10:46 AM

Tamj

09/04/05 06:37 PM

Okay, I'm trying again, with no personal questions--and more HGs than just Janelle :)

I don't recall Janelle saying she did it on purpose, could you point to where you read that in the updates. :)

09/04/05 09:34 AM

janka

09/06/05 02:22 PM

I'd like to ask Ivette, specifically what did Janelle do to warrant her having the most evil soul of any human being Ivette has known?

Olivia

09/04/05 07:31 AM

I'd like to see Marcellas ask the three remaining ladies of the Nerd Herd why they said last night that

Melissa

09/04/05 06:32 AM

I'd also like to ask the remaining 3 NHs how they consider Janelle selfish for not using the veto she won

Comments and questions for each HG......

09/04/05 07:24 AM

Re: Need your input on a few questions (for Marcellas)

09/04/05 07:32 AM

CainEJW

09/03/05 10:28 PM

Jokerette, read this one (that I replied to) - MANY good points were nailed! NT

For April/Ivette/Beau/Maggie:

09/04/05 08:52 AM

Ask the NH if they would be surprised to know that Kaysar received 82% of the total vote in AC to return to the house. NT

09/03/05 10:07 PM

Rycoblake

09/03/05 02:37 PM

Just for fun, ask Ashlea why she left sequester

moonunit

09/03/05 02:11 PM

I think she would probably prefer not to talk about that, as she left because her father was very ill NT

Melissa

09/03/05 02:12 PM

Thanks for the info -- I hadn't heard that. I guess "for fun" was a poor choice of words, then... :( NT

moonunit

09/03/05 02:48 PM

Here are mine

zezzie420

09/03/05 01:21 PM

I agree with the poster below to ask jenn and april about the false sexual harrassment claims...

I very much agree. Jen wants attention BADLY, don't give it to her. NT

09/03/05 12:51 PM

She's in for a shock when she sees that Katrina has taken the spotlight. NT

09/03/05 07:41 PM

neopolss

09/03/05 08:31 PM

If no one has brought this up yet, how about Eric and Maggie's motto, "Lie, lie, lie, deny,deny, deny" and then going on about honesty, integrity and

Whatever

09/03/05 11:55 AM

Boy have you asked the right question while feeds are down...

deVinePoet

09/03/05 08:55 AM

Great devine..but what about Howie? NT

Moscco

09/03/05 09:51 AM

I want to know if April wondered why Matt bought her all the same stuff Janelle had,

Melissa

09/03/05 08:55 AM

Question for all - "Whould you prefer people to talk behind your back or to your face?" NT

Jana

09/03/05 08:12 AM

to my face, If someone has a valid

snakey

09/03/05 11:11 AM

James' comment about "effing housewives"

bec_dee

09/03/05 06:44 AM

or all of his negative comments about teachers and how he thought it would be easy to "pretend" to be one, even though his mom is a teacher. NT

Sunflake

09/03/05 06:59 AM

The friendship have made a pact that no matter who is up with Janlle if she is final 2, they will not vote for Janelle to win NT

Can they actually make a pact like that? Thats not right, that's why there should be some independent voting maybe 50% viewers and 50% jury l NT

09/03/05 06:39 AM

trini233

09/03/05 10:42 PM

IF you watched that - Maggie NEVER gave her agreement - said they would talk in Sequester NT

Jana

09/03/05 07:54 AM

Actually I did watch that and she agreed. NT

Ask NH what Janelle has done to them personally in the game to make her "soul-less"? in life

09/03/05 11:55 AM

makmadden

09/03/05 06:35 AM

Okay, here's my list of things I didn't see posted down below....

For J-Blo (lol, i'd love for marc to actually call her that, then go oops, i mean Jennifer, lol...i can dream!!)

09/03/05 05:56 AM

KaysarFan05

09/02/05 10:30 PM

Jen should only be asked about the Mike accusations, any more attention is giving her what she wants. NT

excellent point! No one should mention what she did to Kayser, It would be a waste of time listening to the same ol' lies. NT

09/03/05 07:48 AM

crazyq

09/03/05 07:50 AM

good point, i never thought of that...i just hate the biatch's guts, but already know what her answer would be so no point in asking

KaysarFan05

09/03/05 10:11 AM

He actually confronted her right before the POV ceremony which is worse since the plan was a definite go at that point. NT

Ivette's racial slurs re: Kaysar...

09/03/05 05:27 AM

... and Maggie calling him a 'fake Muslim' NT

09/02/05 08:57 PM

here's one... Maggie: "Are you an expert on the Muslim faith that you know they don't use computers?"

09/03/05 05:28 AM

This I personally heard/watched Ivette say

09/03/05 05:57 AM

things Ivette personally said

09/02/05 07:00 PM

ladeedi12

09/02/05 09:57 PM

How about not asking the NH *anything* and pretending like they're not there? NT

Zazny

09/02/05 06:23 PM

Jokerette one more please...Ask them to play the song " TOWN WITHOUT PITY " by Gene Pitney

Ask April how she could be so evil & use every tactic to try to get rid of Kaysar when he was so kind & supportive of her when she was feeling so bad.

09/02/05 04:19 PM

starrynite

09/02/05 04:17 PM

You should put this in In-depth so it doesnt get lost NT

LOL. Ask Janelle if she was really abducted by aliens. NT

09/02/05 03:59 PM

Jokerette you have opened Pandora's Box !!!! NT

09/02/05 03:49 PM

I think I've read every reply to this thread and all I can say is...........

09/02/05 03:41 PM

mommamia

09/02/05 03:35 PM

LOL! It DEFINATELY needs to be more than an hour. ;-) NT

honeyb

09/02/05 04:08 PM

To most of the cast (but not all):

LOL cherub That is new to me and I spent more then a few weeks with folks I did not know NT

09/02/05 03:34 PM

Maelstrom

09/02/05 03:53 PM

Why does Maggie feel the need to share such details about her BM? And

mamasaid

09/02/05 03:34 PM

Jinx, mamasaid!! NT

Ask Maggie why it is bad for BB to talk about her weight since it has nothing to do with the game, but when asked what Janelle lied about all they can

09/02/05 03:38 PM

MissKIA

09/02/05 03:31 PM

LOL I vote for this one :) Especially after how PO'd she was when Julie brought up her weight :) NT

I vote for this one, too. NT

09/02/05 03:37 PM

How about asking Janelle why she never lifted a finger to help out unless she was pushed to do so, also,

09/02/05 03:39 PM

IHEARTNERDS

09/02/05 03:29 PM

Shouldn't we be asking game questions, who cares if she is a slob. NT

JackNapier

09/03/05 01:14 AM

that's what I was thinking. a lot of these questions sound like personal attacks.

crazyq

09/03/05 07:15 AM

At least she admits most of her flaws. The friend cult admit nothing. LOL NT

Actually, Maggie is the one that spends the most time laying in bed. NT

09/03/05 06:40 AM

NO way does Maggie lay in bed more than Janalien, no way.She has done it since week 2 NT

09/02/05 03:34 PM

IHEARTNERDS

09/02/05 03:46 PM

Maggie sits in bed all day/night and has the friendship bring her whatever she needs. She definitely does more Housework than Janelle would ever

WOW we are not watching the same show. Maggie works out every day, cooks cleans

09/02/05 03:52 PM

IHEARTNERDS

09/02/05 04:00 PM

Janelle works out more than Maggie and works out harder. She also spends hours a day in front of the mirror. Her and Howie spend a ton of time in the

Actually, Janelle works out a lot too! I've seen her work out way more than Maggie! NT

09/02/05 04:20 PM

Skipper

09/02/05 04:11 PM

hanelle not only runs longer than maggie, janelle actually runs. maggie isnt eve at 1 mph NT

bunnylove

09/02/05 04:12 PM

Cool, I am glad that I AM watching the same feeds as everyone else. :) I see Janelle working out much more than Maggie also. NT

If Janalien works out so much, then why has she continued to gain weight while Maggie has lost so much? NT

09/02/05 04:16 PM

IHEARTNERDS

09/02/05 04:22 PM

Because Janelle works out like this outside of the house and takes diet pills. In the house she doesn't have the diet pills. Maggie does not work out

James00 I agree, Maggie ER Nurse

09/02/05 04:25 PM

TnGirl

09/05/05 06:00 AM

Janelle only works out just before a competition or ,lmao, when she thought Michael was coming back in the house.

IHEARTNERDS

09/02/05 04:31 PM

Nope, she works out everyday. Sometimes she doesn't get around to it until midnight or

Evidently you will only believe what you want to believe, despite that three people have corrected you. We will just have to agree to disagree. NT

09/02/05 04:54 PM

I think the reason some people have not seen Janelle do much, is that you have to be a nightowl like her to see it.....

09/02/05 04:34 PM

Doni

09/03/05 11:58 AM

Sorry, "corrected" was the wrong word. We see it differently. NT

I want to know why they think they are good and EVERYONE else is evil and

09/02/05 04:36 PM

Ask April why she could get fired for saying 'slut' but not 'c*nt face' NT

09/02/05 03:29 PM

mamasaid

09/02/05 03:28 PM

And why Janelle's obviously the sult/whore, despite April is the one sharing that her husband ejaculates on her face. NT

janka

09/02/05 03:54 PM

NOW THATS NASTY!!! Who in their right mind would admit that on NATIONAL TV!!

brandi2487

09/03/05 03:55 PM

Ask the Nerd Herd how they think the producers feel about their negative comments; and how they think the viewers feel about the

lol ETTE did you know what you were getting into here? NT

09/02/05 03:27 PM

HokieNation

09/02/05 03:27 PM

Maggie:

Maggie said that she loves seeing fear in peoples eyes. I would like to ask her

09/02/05 03:24 PM

zuzu

09/02/05 03:39 PM

She said that? That's just creepy. NT

shadowomyn

09/02/05 03:41 PM

Yes, she did. She was in the hot tub with the NH. NT

zuzu

09/02/05 03:43 PM

April, Why did you belive if you smoke it would'nt be seen on tv? and again, Why did you all think the hoh room was not being seen on the feeds? NT

LazyMom

09/02/05 03:33 PM

Also for Maggie:

Ask Maggie where I can ship her a poop cake :-) NT

09/02/05 03:29 PM

ams06

09/02/05 03:24 PM

Before sarah had her BB catered birthday party you said you could make her a shi* cake? Can you please describe the recipe? NT

Hypnotoad

09/04/05 07:52 AM

All of the above. just kidding what I would like to ask is this...

Maelstrom

09/02/05 03:24 PM

The Janelle Inquisistion--sorry, but I feel only fair to point things in her direction

Actually if you have watched HC's. Marcellas has brought up Janelle racism quite a few times

09/02/05 03:23 PM

Don't leave Kaysar off that list, he made racists remarks towards Ivette, he is no better than the rest of them NT

09/02/05 07:06 PM

bama_chevygal

09/02/05 10:01 PM

really. What did he say? NT

and right you are about calling everyone out. Marc did a good job from what I saw, but I was really disappointed in the Kaysar episode.

09/03/05 05:47 AM

Ok Janelle DUI bad ..Maggie reafer smoker?Ok Maelstrom loves Playboy

09/02/05 08:13 PM

Maelstrom

09/02/05 03:43 PM

I love you Maelstrom. I can understand how the FS brings up such strong feelings in you guys, and I REALLY wish you all could see where I'm coming

Janelle has charisma, the Sheep don't

09/02/05 03:50 PM

islandfan

09/03/05 06:17 AM

I have to say that the context and the way in which she insults the others is done in a superficial way. Maggie and friends do in such a way that it

Whatever

09/02/05 04:19 PM

Peachy is your issue with Janie or us?

Maelstrom

09/02/05 04:05 PM

As usual Malestrom you are right on! NT

My original issue has always been with Janelle.However, it disturbs me to see people wish death on the FS, and their family, make hate-websites,

09/03/05 07:55 AM

The turd sheep deserve what they get

09/02/05 04:23 PM

deliasgirl

09/02/05 06:38 PM

thank you for proving my point, deliasgirl! Exactly what I'm talking about. Bringing personal attacks into it, comparing me to Pat Robertson. I

09/02/05 07:02 PM

ITA NT

Beau, who came up with the plan to blackmail Howie with a "Hand job"? NT

09/02/05 03:58 PM

LazyMom

09/02/05 03:55 PM

The other night, prior to Howie winning HOH, Maggie suggested Beau sleep (have sex) with Howie. NT

CougarSpy

09/02/05 04:03 PM

glad I missed that one ::::::;ughhhhh:::::::: they just keep topping themselves!! NT

LazyMom

09/02/05 04:07 PM

Whow talk about issues.. LOL but good Questions NT

Maelstrom

09/02/05 03:29 PM

Peachy, very few of those things have anything to do with the GAME. NT

I think those questions are all acceptable except for the court one. that dosnt have anything to do with game NT

09/02/05 03:26 PM

Good point, Kaz. NT

mommamia

09/02/05 03:28 PM

I agree but I also think the playboy and Bahama questions are completely irrelevent. NT

09/02/05 03:25 PM

that's a good point, gorf--but I was thinking of because she made fun of Ivette's whole family being in jail--

09/02/05 03:31 PM

So did James, so he should be called out as well. NT

09/02/05 03:28 PM

zuzu

09/02/05 03:42 PM

ditto. she should be called out on not being the best person NT

What, exactly, does "being the best person" have to do with it, outside Sheepworld? NT

09/02/05 03:32 PM

STella668

09/14/05 09:55 PM

did you forget james rant about ivette should be in jail with the rest of her family already? NT

booboo123

09/02/05 03:34 PM

if someone wants to ask him that they should do it NT

neither does posing for playboy, giving a homeless man fake money and why do you care if she asked about Britney Spears??

09/02/05 03:37 PM

just keeping it real! NT

booboo123

09/02/05 03:37 PM

Forget it, Kaz. As always, I can't say anything without it being wrong, Meanwhile, ANYTHING the FS does is fair game. Makes sense to me. NT

09/02/05 03:28 PM

Personal questions really arent part of the game its not fair or important.

09/02/05 03:30 PM

kidfresh512

09/03/05 07:14 PM

No body is saying anything about the Friendship's past/life outside the game. If and when they do, I would correct them as well. NT

Because most of what you want asked has nothing to do with playing the game. It's personal. NT

09/02/05 03:33 PM

mommamia

09/02/05 03:32 PM

seems more personal than game related to me. hmmm NT

booboo123

09/02/05 03:29 PM

yeah true, my eye just kinda stuck to the court one :P NT

a little bit of a conscience gorf???

09/02/05 03:28 PM

I was just going to write that. And the Britney Spears one. Who cares if she asked about that??? NT

09/02/05 03:30 PM

slh127

09/02/05 03:26 PM

Ask Beau if he actually knows all the celebrities that he claims to be friends with NT

Ask April how she can be pissed off at Howie for getting personal

09/02/05 03:22 PM

they should let you be a special co-host of the town hall meeting NT

09/02/05 03:21 PM

I'd like Marcellas to ask Janelle to tell that hilarious homeless man story to America! NT

09/02/05 03:23 PM

IHEARTNERDS

09/02/05 03:20 PM

yes! i would love that NT

I know you just asked for a 'few' Ette - but please have him call the NH out on being so rude and talking back to BB NT

09/02/05 03:21 PM

mamasaid

09/02/05 03:20 PM

For the NH members: Now that you know there were cameras and

sage

09/02/05 03:20 PM

Why they air their dirty laundry, if they don't want the entire country to know. We see & hear everything - 24/7! NT

indipam

09/02/05 03:19 PM

Jeez Ette, after reading all these questions it seems as though the S6 won't be speaking at all, the whole show will be calling out the NH! : ). NT

This may be cleared up before the show ends - but what about the quarters?

09/02/05 03:18 PM

mamasaid

09/02/05 03:17 PM

Yep, Maggie owes Janie a quarter. NT

For Howie, and perhaps Rachael as well:

09/02/05 04:13 PM

This question is an absolute must!!!! NT

09/02/05 03:17 PM

Ask Ivette how she can get so attached to Eric in 3 weeks but when Janelle

09/02/05 03:23 PM

Ivette and others complaining about poor sportmanship from Rachel and others--they should have to give examples (I can't think of any) and then have

09/02/05 03:14 PM

excellent Gorf! NT

BigMama

09/02/05 03:15 PM

ejj1955

09/02/05 03:13 PM

for howie and kaysar: why did they believe what April said about James after knowing she is a liar plus on a wrong side? NT

because April repeated confidential convos to him verbatim...but I dont think April lied in that conversation..

09/02/05 03:12 PM

trini233

09/03/05 11:14 PM

Good question. I would love to hear that answer. NT

excellent questions Valleygirl...i want to know the answers to those questions too. NT

09/02/05 03:24 PM

for James

ValleyGirl

09/02/05 03:11 PM

KaysarFan05

09/02/05 09:56 PM

Why its okay for Ivette to tell Maggie there was no time on their friendship

ccquilter

09/02/05 03:10 PM

Or, worse yet, Ivette's tears over Cappy, who she knew what? one week longer than Janelle knew Michael? NT

ejj1955

09/02/05 03:15 PM

Oh here's a good one, how about when Maggie, April, and Jen said they couldn't see Beau when he was sitting on the brown couch

IHateApril

09/02/05 03:10 PM

Ok, that's offensive. What the heck did Beau say to that? NT

He wasn't there. I only read that on Updates, I did not witness it personally. NT

09/02/05 03:12 PM

IHateApril

09/02/05 03:15 PM

They better be glad someone like me wasn't there. They think Ivette cried the other day....... It would not have been pretty! NT

Was it the whole school or just the fraternity thatJ-BLO serviced? NT

09/02/05 06:45 PM

booboo123

09/02/05 03:09 PM

I am interested to know why pretty much every Friendsheep said in their pre-show interview with Marcellas

Oh boy...I could write a book....lol

09/02/05 03:09 PM

I want the whole "integrity & honesty" crew to defend their lying to Kaysar in the pressure cooker. They all had their faces pressed against the glass telling K about the

09/02/05 03:09 PM

Why are the nerds so upst with Janelle getting a phone call from Michael. She is 25 not 15. NT

09/02/05 03:08 PM

Panda4

09/02/05 03:08 PM

All of the lies that James has admitted to should be called out to see the reactions of the HGs:

09/02/05 03:08 PM

For Ivette:

And add that the word "Janellousy" was created by the internet people to describe her non-stop hatred of Janelle. NT

09/02/05 03:08 PM

What's it like being the most hated group in Big Brother history?! Oh yeah, and there was a Beau on this show? NT

09/02/05 03:29 PM

crateriko

09/02/05 03:07 PM

Does April regret calling the BB viewers pieces of s***? NT

BB6Addict

09/02/05 03:06 PM

why did james want kaysar out so bad after james took himself off the block and kept saying kaysar has got to go!!!!!! NT

booboo123

09/02/05 03:06 PM

How they could laugh at Janelle's story about the first time she saw a black person as a child, then call her racist for it behind her back! NT

mamasaid

09/02/05 03:06 PM

Ask Eric why he hates women, and why he feels he can just call Janelle's mouth a c*ckhole. NT

IHateApril

09/02/05 03:06 PM

I would like to know, why the NH always refers to them good, the other side evil. Can they give specific examples of what makes them good, and what

CatWoman

09/02/05 03:05 PM

Very good question! NT

Dogsarunnin

09/02/05 03:06 PM

TY :) NT

CatWoman

09/02/05 03:10 PM

Things I would like the houseguests called out on:

BigMama

09/02/05 03:05 PM

Particularly re the campaign to oust Ivette

moonunit

09/03/05 02:02 PM

Great list, a couple additions:

Very very good! I forgot to mention #2, #3, and #5, all screaming examples of hypocrisy. NT

09/02/05 03:20 PM

ejj1955

09/02/05 03:19 PM

Actually you had some really awesome questions. NT

what did Maggie say about her hospital people? NT

09/02/05 03:07 PM

Jokerette

09/02/05 03:07 PM

Last night (9/01) Maggie said when BB was over she'd be back to shoveling sh*t out of people's a**es. NT

When April asked her this morning to help her with a " going to the bathroom" problem

09/02/05 03:46 PM

Maggie & Eric both talked about poor patients that they hated helping. Just last night Maggie said she hated half the people she

09/02/05 03:18 PM

Said she hated most of them NT

09/02/05 03:12 PM

mamasaid

09/02/05 03:12 PM

Maggie was talking about taunting prisoners when they were brought in for treatment, she was showing the HG's how she mocked

I don't understand how these people can go through life not realizing how pathetic they are. Did Maggie say these things in the HOH room when she

09/02/05 03:10 PM

Lucinda

09/02/05 04:20 PM

Actually no, there were times where she and Eric would talk openly about this in the kitchen amongst themselves or other HG's. It was actually

I want to know why they treated Janelle so badly? Why they hid her stuff, why they always bashed her and made fun of her.They were terrible to her NT

09/02/05 04:35 PM

They are scum bags. NT

mommamia

09/02/05 03:08 PM

Dogsarunnin

09/02/05 03:05 PM

I would like to see Maggie / Eric called out on leaving a giant "gift" in Kaysars HOH toliet NT

09/02/05 03:05 PM

So would I NT

Don't forget Maggie saying that she wanted to give Sarah "poop on a plate" for her Birthday. NT

09/02/05 06:06 PM

Here is a recent thread pertaining to that...

09/02/05 03:12 PM

Yeah and on the meat NT

Dogsarunnin

09/02/05 03:05 PM

what about the meat? NT

Jokerette

09/02/05 03:08 PM

Someone left kaysars meat out. We never did find out who did it. NT

09/02/05 04:50 PM

mommamia

09/02/05 03:22 PM

Maggie has continuously stated that she deals with the scum of the earth in the ER. She has talked about

BigMama

09/02/05 03:13 PM

I hope this info gets back to her employer. Substandard medical care is criminal. NT

Someone left Kaysars meat out overnight and it went bad NT

09/02/05 03:18 PM

Dogsarunnin

09/02/05 03:10 PM

According to a few different HGs, when BB reviewed the tapes it was actually Kaysar that left his own meat out. NT

I think that ended up being Kaysar, himself......not sure, though. NT

09/02/05 03:15 PM

wow! i didnt know she said that!! i really hated her before but now i want to kill that bi-tch! NT

09/02/05 03:14 PM

Here are some......

mommamia

09/02/05 03:04 PM

ninja1

09/02/05 03:06 PM

Saying Kaysar never prayed is like saying she doesn't bitch! NT

She said every single one. The sand n*gger comment? My mouth dropped. I heard it with my own ears :-( NT

09/02/05 03:20 PM

mommamia

09/02/05 03:07 PM

Racist things Ivette has said / done ...

Ette, I want Eric called out on his babyish behavior watching the S6 practice throwing the ball the week he was evicted. NT

09/02/05 03:04 PM

Marc tried this with Eric on House Calls. He justified it somehow NT

09/02/05 03:04 PM

Zazny

09/02/05 06:18 PM

Ask April if she'd like to apologize to America for calling us pieces of ****! NT

westhollywood

09/02/05 03:03 PM

I second, third and fourth this one. ;) NT

Ask Ivette how Rachel was considered a poor sport... while her reacting to Janelle's phone call wasn't NT

09/02/05 03:12 PM

crateriko

09/02/05 03:03 PM

Ask IN FRONT of other houseguests, how Kaysar enjoyed filming Y & R! NT

Doofannes

09/02/05 03:03 PM

I want to know how they can always tear Janelle up for her extentions and the such when their friend April has more plastic than a tupperware party NT

HokieNation

09/02/05 03:03 PM

LMAO some of these remarks on here make me choke laughing, i was eating a dove n about sucked it down NT

Dogsarunnin

09/02/05 03:09 PM

Good one! And why April goes along with it knowing she has had more *work* done. NT

mommamia

09/02/05 03:06 PM

I would definitley bring up the the whole Michael, sexual predator thing. That was horrible. NT

Vermicious_Knid

09/02/05 03:03 PM

and specify that Internet people saw the incident

Jokerette

09/02/05 03:04 PM

ITA...that was an injustice ! NT

What happened? I missed all of that. NT

09/02/05 03:39 PM

09/02/05 03:22 PM

09/02/05 03:12 PM

09/02/05 03:05 PM

Ask for a specific lie that janelle had said i would love to see the spin NT

kindaobsessed

09/02/05 03:02 PM

and preface it with ABOUT THE GAME. Hair extensions is a ridiculous thing to say she's lied about. NT

besides its none of their business wether or not she has extensions...why do they care so much? NT

09/02/05 03:03 PM

ninja1

09/02/05 03:04 PM

racist things Janelle said, unfair accusations towards mike (ask jenn this) NT

April may be even more guilty than Jenn on the accusations. She is the one that started the whole thing. Jenn just went with it. NT

09/02/05 03:02 PM

you are right. i forgot cause jenn's story made so much impact NT

09/02/05 03:10 PM

Janelle called Ivette cuban trash, and implied that she should be the cleaning lady NT

09/02/05 03:11 PM

she has also said all Latins smell, all Latins/Hispanics should be cleaning people (specifically hers) because they're poor trash, Latin people are

09/02/05 03:07 PM

At least Janie was drunk when she said all this stuff. Ivette and co. say stuff like that 24/7. NT

09/02/05 03:26 PM

09/02/05 03:30 PM

excuses, excuses NT

No, Janelle had made all those comments while NOT drunk. It's the ones from when she WAS drunk I don't remember NT

09/02/05 03:36 PM

yep, so if ivette is called out on hers i want same with janelle NT

09/02/05 03:31 PM

Of course, Marcellas will do this. He always brings up that both Janelle and Ivette have made racist remarks. NT

09/02/05 03:10 PM

this is good. i watched HC for the first time today NT

09/02/05 03:11 PM

April and Jenn should be called on trying to get Ivette voted out when it was Sarah vs. Ivette on the block. NT

09/02/05 03:13 PM

That is one of the biggest things I want to see come out. NT

09/02/05 03:01 PM

Yeah, ask them what made them think the online viewers wouldn't see and hear everything they were saying? Let them know that they can't lie, we ALL

09/02/05 03:25 PM

MissKIA

09/02/05 03:35 PM

Second! NT

reverendmediocre

09/02/05 03:08 PM

I agree. I want that one cleared up once and for all. NT

slh127

09/02/05 03:02 PM

Me too. NT

mommamia

09/02/05 03:05 PM

Ask the Fiendship how they could think they were better people for not bashing other houseguests...

Bonita

09/02/05 03:01 PM

IVe's racist comments, Hating Americans, Bashing Jane repeatedly, and Outragous lies about MIke. NT

Vaseflower2000

09/02/05 03:16 PM

Ask the sheep why they would want to burn someone elses positions and why they went through Janey's personal items. NT

Goddess200xxx

09/02/05 05:23 PM

Ask the Sheep why would they want to use Janey's stuff, but it is unholy for Janey to use their stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NT

Goddess200xxx

09/02/05 05:23 PM

As a fellow licensed physician in California, trust me when I say that Will (LONG)

Captain_Caruncle

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09/20/06 01:16 PM

with all due respect, i don't see this as anything more than carefully crafted speculation

bruhe

09/21/06 11:06 AM

Agreed, that's all it is. Fun though? NT

Captain_Caruncle

09/21/06 07:00 PM

Wow! I'm really enjoying reading this thread! I was just wondering what everyone thought about Janie and Will's fantasy story that they made up ...

melbear

09/21/06 01:11 AM

ITA! I think that Will was desperately trying to communicate with Janie

Captain_Caruncle

09/21/06 08:18 AM

I am so jealous I wasn't here to get in this discussion at the beginning..

Mikkie

09/26/06 07:35 AM

yeah, but that was the fourth week, i doubt will was interested in janelle that much in week 4 NT

I think it's a combination of everything, which is why it is so fascinating to me! It leaves....

09/21/06 10:41 PM

melbear

09/21/06 03:45 PM

A telling moment for me

Daisymeo

09/20/06 09:10 PM

Daisy, that brings up something really interesting about Will

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 09:35 PM

Wow! I really appreciate your analysis. You've got some well-supported insights. Thanks! NT

KWren11

09/20/06 08:56 PM

So what's your opinion of his popping in and out of here (JU)? Love to hear your theory of the motivation there..... NT

LunaC

09/20/06 08:52 PM

I would assume we are a mirror for him and his master plans. Every narcissist

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 09:21 PM

Well that could be one explanation for why he keeps showing up here....

LunaC

09/21/06 12:11 AM

holy moly this is a good post! NT

imper

09/20/06 08:18 PM

Great post...why is will acting the way he is right now?! and what part of the decompressing stage do you think he is in? NT

tat

09/20/06 07:31 PM

Great analysis!! I have some questions for you too...Question #1 (a bit long...sorry)

Very good post, to add a note to it though, I saw something in those looks he was giving her those last 24 hours

09/20/06 05:37 PM

BecsyBabes

09/20/06 08:16 PM

Great post! You observation about Will's looks to Janie after he knows

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 08:43 PM

Will told her (I think the day before his eviction)...

That's interesting, because Janie would not have made it to F2 unless she snagged the last HOH. NT

09/20/06 10:31 PM

I agree totally

BecsyBabes

09/21/06 11:34 PM

Becca, great post! You've said a lot of things I've thought as well. Just the right length too ;) NT

09/21/06 07:34 PM

Weezey, a second thought on your post...

09/20/06 08:22 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 07:15 PM

"I guess our Dr. Will is only human after all!? " awww don't tell us that! LOL

Weezey, nice take on this puzzle. How about this interpretation...

09/20/06 07:22 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 06:40 PM

the first thing will said to janelle, was about how erika had thrown the hoh to boogie, so he knew, or suspected it NT

Here something else I noticed about the clips when Will showed up at the sequester house...

09/21/06 12:36 AM

DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS CLIP? NT

09/20/06 07:06 PM

starstar67

09/20/06 09:02 PM

Weezey, my gut reaction to his comments coming through the gate to sequester

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 08:56 PM

Does anyone think that Will really is a genius? Because I do...I am amazed at his ability to know just how to get what he wants out of people by

Where the heck have you two been all my life :) NT

09/20/06 11:46 PM

AngieBaby

09/20/06 09:01 PM

omg...you and I must have connected brains because you take the words right outta my mouth!

lismommyof5

09/20/06 07:33 PM

Take a close look at Will's face when he is watching Janie's goodbye.

Djmep

09/20/06 07:24 PM

He knew he was lying about that grapefruit analogy! That was just his way of playing it off. NT

I have watched it 100 times and he looks very hurt...at the end he even has too look away. That was the WORST night of the entire season! NT

09/20/06 08:48 PM

WOW interesting! I have been wanting to see his goodbye message from janey again NT

09/20/06 07:37 PM

I forgot about that! Thanks NT

09/20/06 07:28 PM

Wow never thought of it that way...I think your first paragraph is correct...Your second also correct. The difference is once he got to sequester he

09/20/06 07:09 PM

You're right that it would be a mess if Will was in the jury and the final two

09/20/06 06:53 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 07:10 PM

I have often thought that it worked out the way it was supposed to

I am ashamed to admit it...because yes, I wanted her to win...but a feeling of happiness washed over me when she was evicted.

09/20/06 07:07 PM

I thought the same thing that night ofthe RT

09/20/06 07:31 PM

And the change in his body language during the RT... very guarded in the beginning and very open and welcoming at the end. I also had the feeling

09/20/06 07:41 PM

My absolute favorite is the look he gives her when she asks Erika if kissing butt was part of her strategy. She really does impress him no matter

09/20/06 07:34 PM

09/20/06 07:41 PM

It's love I tells ya! NT

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 08:11 PM

yeah that was great! NT

Great points. I would like to add that I seem to recall someone (Will?) saying that

09/20/06 07:42 PM

Djmep

09/20/06 06:33 PM

If I remember correctly, wasn't it Janie would had trouble sleeping that night? NT

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 06:41 PM

Yes I think you are right...but all this started very early in the day...why would he take allergy medicine? He's way smarter than that! NT

I can't answer you question but I would just like to say...co-sign. That never made sense to me either. NT

09/20/06 06:39 PM

lismommyof5

09/20/06 06:04 PM

I agree too but I think there was more to it than hurt. ........

I agree with you...but what is your take on his repeated "wooing" of Erin in his post eviction interviews?

09/20/06 06:09 PM

well I posted this last night after the CT chat

09/20/06 06:32 PM

I was surpirsed as well...

09/20/06 06:42 PM

Tracyrm

09/20/06 06:17 PM

Yes I think I recall Janelle saying that he told her that no matter what happend it would not change anything between them...did I dream that? NT

09/20/06 06:36 PM

yeah he said

and unless I'm imagining it...

09/20/06 06:44 PM

09/20/06 06:48 PM

very true! NT

I've thought the same thing.... He made his choice that day and the grapefruit won.... NT

09/20/06 06:51 PM

09/20/06 06:11 PM

09/20/06 06:14 PM

bzygal

09/20/06 08:51 PM

great assessment

Yeah and they seem to have gotten her mother and best friend to play along as well... NT

09/20/06 04:34 PM

Well if they are trying to be together

09/20/06 06:00 PM

09/20/06 06:05 PM

Co-sign that! NT

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 06:07 PM

a couple of questions?

I talked about Janie in a reply below, but you point about James saying

09/20/06 04:33 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:41 PM

james is a loss prevention manager, and he mentioned that about will

Thank you Captain Caruncle for answering my question below. Would

09/20/06 04:50 PM

Ashley236

09/20/06 04:27 PM

Truth! This has been worse than...

Oh, I love rollercoasters but this one has been a "superfun" wild one!!! I also agree

09/20/06 07:58 PM

What did Kaysar say on the subject during his chat? NT

09/20/06 08:15 PM

Kaysar about Will & Janie.....

09/20/06 11:56 PM

GAbb7fan

09/21/06 06:23 AM

amen to that! :-) NT

So I've reread this thread since it's been moved to In-Depth....damn, doc, you're sucking me back into believer land. Gah! ; ) NT

09/20/06 04:35 PM

GlitterShark

09/20/06 04:19 PM

I agree with your insight, and I have comments and questions...

lovinthewill

09/20/06 04:14 PM

I am male. I am not Will Kirby. But you bring up a great point...

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:21 PM

Good point! I really enjoy reading your assessments. It is clear

lovinthewill

09/20/06 04:33 PM

Capt. I gotta add you to my friends list. Do you mind? I've been dying to see a "profiler" of sorts analyze Dr. Will! NT

I agree with some of this like how they acted after she won AC, I posted about it before myself...but even if they had feelings once back in the real

09/20/06 04:10 PM

IMO there is nothing wrong with him telling us his profession....

09/20/06 04:09 PM

Thanks danaleigh, I just couldn't bear lurking anymore with all the Winelle fireworks! NT

09/20/06 07:24 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 08:13 PM

if they are planning to get together, it won't be a while down the road

I don't understand. Is revealing my profession to support my argument automatically "bragging"? NT

09/20/06 04:27 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:15 PM

Well, with that statement I've become even more skeptical. Any professional would know ...

Delphi

09/20/06 05:02 PM

I am a Psychologist who has been lurking here and elsewhere..

Anabelrules

09/20/06 06:17 PM

Just wanted to say B.S. to your claim of being a "Psychologist". LOL NT

The topic of this thread is Will & Janelle, not personal opinons about other posters. NT

09/22/06 06:39 AM

I wonder how many are actually here. I would think many in the field would be interested in BB.

09/22/06 08:59 AM

Delphi

09/20/06 06:32 PM

how many viewers..

Anabelrules

09/20/06 06:41 PM

Delphi, the thrust of the argument in my original post came from my having

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 05:39 PM

Apologies if anyone thought my post was threatening. As with my your previous response ...

Delphi

09/20/06 06:11 PM

Delphi, as for your ethics in the medical profession question, that is a huge and thorny topic

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 06:50 PM

My puny post surely is less shocking that Will's effrontery as an MD in front of a national audience! NT

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 06:45 PM

He's a D.O., not an M.D. NT

Your post is rather threatening. NT

09/20/06 07:47 PM

ckingery

09/20/06 05:38 PM

no but even as a RN I won't answer the most basic first aid question sometimes and never without reminding them to see their doc, go to ER ect. out of

Are you saying that someone could get sued for posting on a message board? Insane.

09/20/06 04:23 PM

Roman, we're protected by the Good Samaritan Act and would be sued for NOT performing CPR. What are you talking about??? NT

09/20/06 08:18 PM

ckingery

09/20/06 06:45 PM

LOL....I just rewatched the last episode of Seinfeld last night when they reran it, I forgot they ended up in jail because of that! NT

Makes total sense to me, but I just don't see what I am doing here as

09/21/06 10:24 AM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:27 PM

Captain, you have done nothing wrong. You gave your opinion.

I don't really either but just saying docs I know would never do that and also say they are a doctor....have a friend here with me now, she is in

09/20/06 08:22 PM

Well, it has been my impression that those that work in the mental health field

09/20/06 04:36 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 05:04 PM

I probably agree with you there any retired psych nurses I would get on other floors I worked as pts. were usually crazier than loons...lol NT

A doctor, healer, shaman, etc., has a magical aura. Just like Will. People want to be friends with a doctor. A doctor automatically has power. NT

09/20/06 05:29 PM

So what do you think about Will's use of that label on the show and in his life? NT

09/20/06 04:17 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:23 PM

It's his profession. His identity. He has earned the title. It would be weird to hide it, imho. NT

I think you meant this to zerelda but I think he earned the title, its his to use but he does use it to charm, get jobs, etc....tyra, etc. look at the

09/20/06 04:33 PM

The shirt, right! I personally got a kick out of it, but I'm sure it must really rub some the wrong way. NT

09/20/06 04:30 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:34 PM

As the game progressed to the homestretch

09/20/06 04:45 PM

Which shirt was that? NT

Wow! I totally missed that. That should have been one of interview questions. NT

09/20/06 08:36 PM

I think it had less to do with janie and more because he thought he had a chance to win the game and didn't want to draw attention to himself in that

09/20/06 08:27 PM

You could be right, but having witnessed Will's balls-out gameplay

09/20/06 04:58 PM

I agree the "game " didn't stop him from wearing it before I don' thtink it would that then either NT

09/20/06 05:00 PM

good catch - I never thought about ti being THAT shirt NT

09/20/06 05:06 PM

Cool! Great pick up! NT

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:51 PM

I liked his tshirt and the one saying I am probably lying....I think he is a genius to make that approach damn near work for the 2nd time! NT

09/20/06 04:49 PM

Which t-shirt are you discussing NT

09/20/06 04:41 PM

unc4mee

09/20/06 05:17 PM

Sorry, but anyone can claim to be an expert on the net

Delphi

09/20/06 03:58 PM

Delphi, you're the first person to call me out on that declaration I made

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:32 PM

If what you truly want is the Janie side of the equation, then you need look no further than this thread. It's all there for the reading. NT

ckingery

09/20/06 04:16 PM

Forget the thread, why was it not considered in the OP? That's the point NT

Delphi

09/20/06 04:23 PM

You seem angry. NT

ckingery

09/20/06 04:26 PM

Sorry, not my intent. It may have been the result of the fact that my damn browser ate a long post I had wrote. NT

Delphi

09/20/06 06:19 PM

Different doc for different folks???

timetopass1948

09/20/06 04:10 PM

Your post is revealing. NT

ckingery

09/20/06 04:07 PM

I don't care one way or another if he/she is an expert. I just liked the post. NT

I'm with you. Very interesting thread. Great to view others interpretations instead of childish exaggerations &

09/20/06 04:03 PM

starrynite

09/20/06 05:43 PM

Good for you, you are free to believe whatever you wish; however, your statement doesn't address any points raised in my post NT

Delphi

09/20/06 04:09 PM

I didn't feel like addressing them. I addressed the point I wanted to, which was your not believing his profession. My point was, big deal one way or

Delphi--If you were to read all of Captain's posts (12 of them in this thread), you would find your answers. NT

09/20/06 05:11 PM

ckingery

09/20/06 04:19 PM

True that anyone can pretend to be an expert, but few can back up the claim with the diction, spelling, punctuation, paragraphing, etc., that

Disagree completely. Many could "fake it". I've seen several posters here that ...

09/20/06 04:15 PM

Delphi

09/20/06 05:28 PM

Did you just not like his OP or is the problem he said he was a doctor?

09/20/06 08:45 PM

(Should be "you're".) NT

Agree. Great post. Agree about fear of failure. Will's family is high-achieving: father and grandfather important in Southern literary circles,

09/20/06 07:18 PM

Great-we will see if anything happens. NT

09/20/06 03:57 PM

Vaseflower2000

09/20/06 03:56 PM

a physician wouldn't post this imo. NT

Why not roman? I'm very curious why you'd think that (and very open to your opinion) NT

09/20/06 03:55 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 03:58 PM

I posted more above but I have worked with docs for 15 years...attendings, residents, interns, med students and none of them would ever sum up a

That is a bold statement. They might give their opinions especially on the internet using a fake name. NT

09/20/06 04:15 PM

Well, what strikes me about your comment is that it gets right to the heart

09/20/06 08:48 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:50 PM

but I am sure even in the new tele psych you are talking about people have to fill out a 50 page questionaire with past medical

When someone comes to a doctor with a specific complaint, it is a well-known saw that

09/20/06 05:07 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 05:32 PM

well, clearly you are an intelligent man/woman I just don't think you are a physician and if you are, saying so will make some people believe every

Fascinating! I've worked in jails myself & I've been in sales for a long time.

09/20/06 05:46 PM

Hi auntjulie! To answer that ,see my reponse to unc4mee below... NT

09/20/06 03:54 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 03:57 PM

Do you think Janie will be able to give him the "constant" attention he craves? She's said before that he is exhausting. NT

I think they fit. I think they're equally affectionate and giving...

09/20/06 04:01 PM

Great points Rascal! I remember that Janie told someone (Erika?) that

09/20/06 04:25 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 05:01 PM

Love your observations. I liked them together, but am far from the obsession that is prevelent here. And I've gone back to despising Will, so that

Another Serious Question:

09/20/06 03:44 PM

Ashley236

09/20/06 03:32 PM

Will had no problem with being the hit man.

GAbb7fan

09/20/06 08:59 PM

Ashley, I think we are beginning to know what it feels like to be in a house with Will

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 04:03 PM

You have a very good point .......

I'm really enjoying your theories. Can you expand on why you think Will continues to play the game with the public? Is he

09/20/06 04:46 PM

GlitterShark

09/20/06 04:28 PM

ITA!! I made a lot of videos of those 2 & I believe he was sincere with her, but compartmentalized the game when he needed to. NT

That's pretty good, Doc. :-) Fascinating read! I hope to read more of your insights. NT

09/20/06 04:09 PM

Great point! I believe that the answer lies in Will's take on sex and love

09/20/06 03:30 PM

Question though....

unc4mee

09/20/06 02:55 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 03:06 PM

That is actually very consistent with the "we're a different breed" conversation in the storeroom...

jilly34

09/20/06 03:47 PM

Will also talked to Janie about this in the RR one night. The talk about how it is hard for them to date other people...

OK DOC so analize Jaynie for us. I would love your

09/20/06 09:07 PM

timetopass1948

09/20/06 03:23 PM

See my response to BBFool below... NT

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 03:36 PM

Was that the moment in the chat, where he ended up not finishing, and saying "pretend I said something witty?" NT

Yes, that was the exact spot. NT

09/20/06 03:10 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 03:35 PM

TY, that is very, very interesting. I think you are spot on with all of your observations. NT

I plan to rewatch it to get the answer to your question. NT

09/20/06 03:38 PM

ckingery

09/20/06 03:33 PM

Awesome. You managed to sum up all of the conflicts in the relationship I witnessed develop over the summer. Bravo! NT

AlNisa

09/20/06 02:52 PM

Co-signing this! Good post. NT

tomatoes

09/20/06 02:47 PM

I would love to see you interview Will! I guess only time will tell with Will and Janie. NT

Tavie

09/20/06 02:46 PM

I officially bow to your excellence. Damn, that was good!!!! Nailed it!!! NT

Meckster

09/20/06 02:42 PM

Thanks, Captain, I take my hat off to you! Awesome post (yes, I still WANT to believe) and Welcome to JU! =) NT

WillsDollFriend

09/20/06 02:23 PM

very insightful post. thank you for sharing :) NT

Did anybody get the reference to the Sixth Sense that Boogie made one day.

09/20/06 02:21 PM

Djmep

09/20/06 02:17 PM

Me too! I heard Boogie (more) and Will mention the Sixth Sense. NT

I'm not sure that Boogie is that deep. I think he simply meant that the HG's were dead and didn't know it. NT

09/20/06 09:18 PM

ckingery

09/20/06 04:54 PM

They were going to say they helped Janie win every POV or some of the HOHs NT

sweetbebe

09/20/06 03:49 PM

I will not be sucked back in...damn it! I don't know what they are doing, but I do agree that there are feelings there. Both W/J are being too coy,

Do you have any insight into the hot tub incident and Will's rantings? That bothers me more than anything. NT

09/20/06 02:07 PM

ckingery

09/20/06 02:00 PM

The hot tub rant was really great, but I didn't like the way that CBS

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 02:41 PM

#2, the point about whether Janelle appeals to Will's narcissism is spot-on, imo...

BBFool

09/20/06 02:50 PM

Thanks BBFool. You bring up an interesting point about Janie

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 03:33 PM

OMG! This board is fabulous! I've been in La-La-Land all summer when I should have been In-Depth. LOL NT

ckingery

09/20/06 02:52 PM

Some of us old-timers hid out this season, longing for the old days at Joker's when the discussion was usually good. NT

BBFool

09/20/06 02:54 PM

Being new to Jokers this season, I first visited Chat. What a nightmare! Then I spent most of my time in Discussion because

ckingery

09/20/06 02:57 PM

Another point on aging....

TayaFaire

09/20/06 02:48 PM

Thanks so much for that info Taya! That brings up yet another great point

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 03:52 PM

Thanks. I feel a little better now. Narcissistic? Absolutely. Your take on choosing dermatology gave me chills. It's really obvious, isn't it? NT

ckingery

09/20/06 02:47 PM

I'm not a doctor...

Thank you so much for your post, this is the best Joker's post that I have ever read

09/20/06 02:36 PM

bamajen

09/20/06 03:08 PM

This thread is amazing to me. Thank you! NT

ckingery

09/20/06 03:15 PM

Great post Rascal! I think you're right on the money with everything about

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 02:56 PM

Thank you!

MissyPhont

09/20/06 04:08 PM

Thank you and I agree with your points also..

Oh, Rascal, yes, how true! See my latest posting above -- I am going to add your point to it NT

09/20/06 05:13 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 06:10 PM

Where's your post? Thanks. NT

Thank you, Captain and yes it is fascinating...

09/20/06 06:30 PM

Thank you Rascal for those extra details about their behaviors in the house

09/20/06 03:26 PM

Captain_Caruncle

09/20/06 05:26 PM

You are absolutely correct about Will's decision to leave the house. He knew he was leaving and was resigned to it. He didn't attempt to stay. NT

ckingery

09/20/06 03:04 PM

Thank you! I feel that you are very close to the truth. However, it was really shocking to watch Dr. Jeckyl turn into Mr. Hyde--on camera! NT

ckingery

09/20/06 02:42 PM

I totally agree with all said...well done!!! NT

Adorablet

09/20/06 02:00 PM

As I said in discussion awesome post I think IMO it was just a summer thing but that they did develop feelings but I am going by what they are SAYING

I am glad to finally have someone who is on the same page with me. Especially the body language! NT

09/20/06 01:51 PM

pudding

09/20/06 01:56 PM

Yes, I'm sucked back in. At least the In-Depth section isn't as nasty as Discussio has gotten! NT

Great post...why is will acting the way he is right now?! and what part of the decompressing stage do you think he is in? NT

09/20/06 03:24 PM

ITA! Excellent post NT

calismic

09/20/06 01:47 PM

tat

09/20/06 06:55 PM

We can rehash this question or this point to death like we've done. But this is the biggest question by far that hasn't been talked about.

I would vote for Alison/Ivette over Erika and Lisa who are both so boring! NT

54300

195

06/01/06 03:43 PM

I'm a HUGE Ali fan NT

Evil_TX_Redhead

06/05/06 04:13 PM

jokersgal

06/01/06 06:58 PM

What???!! I would take boring any day over annoyingly UNBEARABLE. NT

Scorpio65

06/05/06 11:08 PM

Erika was boring AND unbearably annoying.she showed her true colors several times on the show.when Jee

ROFL! Replying to myself! I didn't know this was posted in this forum! ahahha NT

06/06/06 08:12 AM

Amen to that! NT

jokersgal

06/05/06 03:22 PM

jokersgal

06/05/06 03:23 PM

i totall agree.Erika and/or Lisa in the house would suck.if they take someone in that mold,

yep, time spent on them is a total waste of camera/feed time NT

06/05/06 07:24 AM

well, except that Lisa was HOT :) NT

06/05/06 07:25 AM

yeah,Lisa or Rachel would get my vote for hottest BORE to watch on the feeds.i don't even think that Erika's hot....just boring. NT

06/05/06 07:26 AM

Of course you should have, because if we don't vote for Allison/Diane and even Ivette, we will be stuck with Lisa/Erika who will float for the win. NT

06/06/06 09:21 AM

I'd vote for Ali and Lisa NT

06/01/06 07:04 PM

I think Janelle, Kaysar, and Alison are locks for our votes and Jase and Holly are locks with the producers. NT

06/01/06 06:59 PM

MOP

06/01/06 06:32 PM

Nooooo! Not Holly! That voice will drive me crazy!! NT

Cara.. I love me some Holly. If she's not on it I'll cry NT

06/01/06 07:10 PM

I know. You just like her boobies. NT

06/01/06 07:11 PM

Subject: Re: I think Janelle, Kaysar, and Alison are locks for our votes and Jase and Holly are locks with the producers. NT

06/01/06 08:42 PM

I love Jase. I'm voting for him! NT

06/01/06 06:51 PM

jokersgal

06/01/06 06:59 PM

Awesome thread. NT

If you don't think Kaysar / Kirby / Howie will be our main votes, you're mistaken. I HATE that, but come on, of course they will be the top 3 NT

06/01/06 06:30 PM

End of as the UK people would say........

06/01/06 06:27 PM

Beau was calm cool and collective too................LMAO J/K,of course. NT

06/01/06 06:41 PM

The voting is a joke. They will put whoever they want in the house. NT

06/06/06 09:23 AM

So let's just call it at that. If they want whomever they want in the house, then that's the way it is. Auto Votes or whatever...

06/01/06 06:36 PM

kc_sportsnut81

06/01/06 06:41 PM

Maybe some players won't be in the vote

Jennifer4120

06/03/06 06:59 AM

Agree to disagree ? I don't agree to that. :) NT

Actually, I've found that sometimes I learn a LOT from others when they agree to disagree. It opens ones eyes to something they might never

06/01/06 06:44 PM

kc_sportsnut81

06/01/06 06:50 PM

Like the fact the CBS is not dumb, knows how to run an internet vote, and would like accurate results. NT

If that's what you'd like to hear, then I'll say yes. But -looks down at self- I don't have gills...which means...

06/01/06 06:56 PM

kc_sportsnut81

06/01/06 07:04 PM

Not upset. Just pointing out the LEAPS that have to be taken to believe that CBS accepted 100,000 votes from an individual. NT

4 hours later, and this is the biggest post in months from Jokers. OF COURSE they allowed auto-voting, that was my whole point, don't kid yourself. NT

06/01/06 07:08 PM

Why would they allow internet fans to control the vote so completely when it's easy to keep the voting accurate.

06/01/06 05:56 PM

All I said was that auto-voters has no effect last year. Logic and basic tech tell you it was easy for CBS to ensure an accurate vote. NT

06/01/06 06:04 PM

can i ask an obvious question?

06/01/06 06:03 PM

Rabbit

06/01/06 06:07 PM

That's a good question. Much better than the use of auto-dialers question. =D NT

HippyFeet

06/01/06 06:11 PM

People who believe that there is a CHANCE that auto votes made a difference are deluding themselves.

so what if they do believe that? what harm is there in letting them think that? If you don't believe them, why do you care what they think? NT

06/01/06 06:11 PM

Rabbit

06/01/06 06:14 PM

It's just the truth. The original post was about auto-voting and the truth is that the auto votes did not count.

LOL...I knew you were going to say that...LOL NT

06/01/06 06:16 PM

Because if we have auto voting (like last year) or something new, like one vote per ip, we will have a different all-star cast......

06/01/06 06:08 PM

Wow!!!!!! So you 3 people who responded think that cbs didn't allow the auto voters?!??!?! Of course they did, that's my whole point. NT

06/01/06 05:58 PM

There's no proof either way. But to think that CBS does not know what they are doing and didn't take the most basic precaution is absurd. NT

06/01/06 03:52 PM

?? - 3 people - I think they counted NT

06/01/06 03:57 PM

Auto voters did nothing last year. One vote per IP address. It's absurd for anyone to think they "tricked" CBS and that CBS did not have...

06/01/06 03:54 PM

GreyHoody, I'd like to know where you got this information from?

06/01/06 03:47 PM

i had 50+ browsers open with 3 frames in each voting for kaysar.

06/01/06 04:01 PM

Hypnotoad

06/04/06 12:39 PM

It allows you to vote as many times as you want and counts the last vote. NT

Still didn't answer my question. Where did you get this information from? NT

06/01/06 04:07 PM

Basic ineret voting technology. Links inside. To think CBS did not know about these precautions is wrong.

06/01/06 04:08 PM

Not wanting to get in the middle of this, but voting more than once isn't cheating. NT

06/01/06 04:12 PM

Not voting more than once, but using those auto-voter things to vote 5,000 times a day is cheating. NT

06/01/06 04:28 PM

That's insane! Do people really CARE that much about who's in the BB house to set up an auto-voter thing?

06/01/06 04:37 PM

kc_sportsnut81

06/01/06 04:40 PM

Some do care enough. Enough to ignore the logic that says CBS knows what they are doing. NT

How long have you been around? This is BB and Joker's care...LOL...silly question! :) NT

06/01/06 05:36 PM

But who said so? Did it say you couldn't use them? BTW, I don't really care, I didn't use them. NT

06/01/06 04:41 PM

You can use them. But to assume that CBS did not take basic precautions that are standard for online voting or did not care is absurd.

06/01/06 04:39 PM

I remember there being some disclaimer on the website, I don't remember what it said though. NT

06/01/06 05:39 PM

People just assumed that becuase the website let you click "vote" more than once that all of those votes were being counted...

06/01/06 04:40 PM

holy cow is he still going at it? NT

06/01/06 05:32 PM

I amswerd your questions about where I heard about IP blocking. You tell me what is more likely ....?

06/01/06 05:39 PM

I think they let us vote as many times as we want .. but we don't know for sure either way so friggen drop it. NT

06/01/06 05:45 PM

No, no one can "KNOW" either way. What is more likely ? That CBS used standard technology to get an accurate vote or....

06/01/06 05:46 PM

You're putting a lot of use into Copy and Paste NT

06/01/06 05:49 PM

no, just the truth does not change. Now you are willing to admit that it's not likely that auto voters were allowed. NT

06/01/06 05:50 PM

the truth? WE DONT KNOW THE TRUTH and I'm not going to admit anything thankyouverymuch NT

06/01/06 05:55 PM

But you admit that it's more LIKELY that CBS is not dumb and used basic technology to assure and accurate vote. NT

06/01/06 05:55 PM

06/01/06 05:57 PM

omg NT

So does CBS want an accurate vote (easily done) or knowingly allow people to vote 100,000 times and manipulate the results. NT

06/01/06 05:58 PM

at this point, I don't care LOL NT

06/01/06 06:05 PM

But it's easy to see what is more logical. CBS is dumb. Internet voting goes on all the time. CBS wanted a accurate result.

06/01/06 06:06 PM

I said STOP. We have a choice here. Either we can discuss this calmly and rationally, and move on when it's obvious the horse has been beaten to death

06/01/06 06:14 PM

dustbunny2

06/01/06 05:57 PM

Even the poor dead horse has something to say about it...

kc_sportsnut81

06/01/06 06:21 PM

06/01/06 06:34 PM

06/01/06 06:30 PM

hmmmpf...hey your horse is sticking it's tongue out at me NT

Exactly! Nobody says we have to watch it. We don't have to like it. NT

06/01/06 06:25 PM

This is a calm debate. There is no resolution, just a topic for debate.

06/01/06 06:24 PM

And I think you've made your side perfectly clear. I would call that time to move on. :) NT

06/01/06 05:59 PM

dustbunny2

06/01/06 06:00 PM

Just defending my position. NT

And you are assuming the opposite. Who knows::::shrug::: NT

06/01/06 06:01 PM

Which is more LIKELY, that CBS used industry standard to make sure the voting was fair...

06/01/06 05:34 PM

I honestly think you're being pointless and I'm getting pissed off NT

06/01/06 05:42 PM

GreyHoody you seem to be the one doing all the argueing.

06/01/06 05:47 PM

I agree. Just defending my opinion that it's naive to think that CBS does not know how to run an online vote and that people "pulled one over"...

06/01/06 05:45 PM

This was the subject ... "We can rehash this question or this point to death like we've done." LOL! NT

06/01/06 05:56 PM

Hahaha, I never actually read the initial post. LOL. Yes, we can. NT

06/01/06 05:47 PM

06/01/06 05:53 PM

Who knew? NT

I'm just happy that I've given up Big Brother, this summer's "debate" will consist of six seasons of rehashed arguments. NT

06/01/06 05:56 PM

Especially with the all stars cast. NT

06/01/06 06:04 PM

a sense of been there done that hey? NT

06/01/06 06:06 PM

Cheating the system, trying to manipulate the results. NT

06/01/06 06:06 PM

***wishes you could ignore someone on the boards*** NT

06/01/06 04:35 PM

Ignoring the truth never helps. NT

06/01/06 04:36 PM

Ignoring annoyances does help. And once again, you don't know the friggen truth NT

06/01/06 04:37 PM

The truth is that CBS is not dumb. Internet voting is not new. Thinking CBS is naive or allowed people to vote 100,000 time is illogical. NT

06/01/06 04:38 PM

06/01/06 05:14 PM

06/01/06 04:37 PM

06/01/06 04:38 PM

well, in your case ----

06/01/06 04:39 PM

06/01/06 04:39 PM

06/01/06 04:39 PM

The old fashioned way. Just choose not to respond to them :) NT

But then you can't get the last word NT

06/01/06 04:38 PM

Actually it is better. It can really drive some people crazy when you don't argue with them :) NT

06/01/06 04:39 PM

Yeah, but you can drive yourself crazy by not responding NT

06/01/06 04:40 PM

06/01/06 04:48 PM

True NT

Darn. I'm not good at that NT

06/01/06 04:40 PM

I never said I tricked CBS did I? Did anyone else?

06/01/06 04:39 PM

They KNEW people on the internet would try to manipulate the vote. You're taking offense to the word cheating but....

06/01/06 04:14 PM

GreyHoody.. who are you? Are you Les Moonves or something? You certainly have a lot of inside information. Or a great imagination. NT

06/01/06 04:18 PM

Taylor...I just have to interrupt this to tell you...

06/01/06 04:19 PM

kc_sportsnut81

06/01/06 04:22 PM

LOL! It's gonna be one heck of a summer...YAY! NT

Haha! Thanks so much. I'm glad you're here.. it's gonna be a fun summer! NT

06/01/06 04:33 PM

Inside info ? Or knowledge that it's basic technolgy and people ASSUME that CBS didn't use it. NT

06/01/06 04:23 PM

And you apparently KNOW that they DID use it. NT

06/01/06 04:20 PM

and to say "how do you KNOW" and "who TOLD you" is a cop-out. It's MOST LIKELY that CBS took precautions with the voting to...

06/01/06 04:21 PM

You just typed the same thing that you posted like 3 minutes ago. You're not getting anywhere NT

06/01/06 04:26 PM

That's becuase it's still true. NT

06/01/06 04:28 PM

Think what you want.. that's cool. But until I see somewhere on the CBS website that they use their little basic technology, I'll be voting

06/01/06 04:28 PM

Did they say you could ? No ? Did they say you couldn't ? No. So should we assume that they are allowing 100,000 votes to come from ....

06/01/06 04:31 PM

06/01/06 04:33 PM

Good lord. NT

So you DO think that CBS ignored the technology and did not care if people could vote 100,000 times ? NT

06/01/06 04:35 PM

06/01/06 04:36 PM

Yes, I do. NT

What makes you think that ? Why would CBS overlook or ignore basic technology ? NT

06/01/06 04:37 PM

No answer ? Becuase it would be stupid of CBS to allow people to vote 100,000 times when it's easily prevented. NT

06/01/06 05:16 PM

I know what basic technology is out there. CBS is a HUGE company. Whoever they use to do the voting know about it too...

06/01/06 06:24 PM

You're saying the exact same things over and over and it's pointless. You think the people who voted for Kaysar multiple times

06/01/06 04:24 PM

I just think it's silly to assume that CBS did not want the vote to be fair and take basic precautions. NT

06/01/06 04:25 PM

06/01/06 04:28 PM

Here's my 2 cents worth.

"motivated fanbase" does not equal higher ratings. People who vote 100,000 times are already watching. NT

06/01/06 04:41 PM

Well, thanks for taking what I said into consideration. NT

06/01/06 05:35 PM

06/01/06 05:39 PM

OK, my point there was that you don't want opinions. You just want to shoot down what anyone says.

06/01/06 05:48 PM

What I have heard from people who think their 100,000 votes counted is that CBS either :

06/01/06 05:53 PM

they'd rather say... 20 million votes were cast! insead of 1 million votes were cast NT

06/01/06 06:08 PM

And they would allow the entire voting process to be a lie to support ANOTHER lie ? Or would the prefer an accuate vote ? NT

06/01/06 05:49 PM

so CBS would allow one person to vote 100,000 times ? Or would they use standard precautions with standard technology. NT

06/01/06 06:00 PM

06/01/06 05:33 PM

I love your 2 cents NT

Why thank you very much NT

06/01/06 04:42 PM

Blah blah blah blah blah. NT

06/01/06 04:45 PM

Is it silly to assume that CBS did not know ANYTHING about online voting and allowd reslults to be manipulated severely ? NT

06/01/06 04:30 PM

06/01/06 04:32 PM

Don't go away mad :) NT

I'm not man, this conversation is just over. If I wanted to continue it, I'd reread all your posts. They'd say the same things you'd say if we

06/01/06 04:27 PM

So why would CBS allow auto-voters if they knew it would happen and they knew it was basic technology to stop it. NT

06/01/06 04:29 PM

***sick of hearing about basic technology**** NT

06/01/06 04:31 PM

Would CBS ignore basic technology to ALLOW people to vote 100,000 times ? Like thy have never done an online vote before ? OR...

06/01/06 04:32 PM

they would probably use what gave them better ratings and the result they wanted NT

06/01/06 04:34 PM

They are not bound by gameshow rules. They can do whatever they want anyway. NT

06/01/06 04:35 PM

06/01/06 04:37 PM

I thought they were. NT

It's basic technology. Idol allows multiple votes. I guess people think that some guy in a garage does CBS's website and they "tricked" them. NT

06/01/06 04:37 PM

You didn't answer my question. Who told you that BB doesn't allow multiple votes? NT

06/01/06 04:06 PM

And another thing.. people who did multiple votes didn't do it to trick CBS. We did it to get Kaysar back in the house NT

06/01/06 04:07 PM

Well, to be honest, I voted several times--just to piss off the nerd herd! NT

06/01/06 04:08 PM

Voting several times is different than thinking CBS is dumb and allowed people to vote 100,000 times. NT

06/01/06 05:18 PM

I'm gonna vote "several" times this year just to piss people off. :-) NT

06/01/06 06:23 PM

Just don't think that you can vote 100,000 times and control the results. NT

06/01/06 05:23 PM

OMG!!!! Just drop it already!!! Enough is enough. NT

06/01/06 06:25 PM

06/01/06 06:26 PM

06/01/06 05:40 PM

06/01/06 05:23 PM

I'll vote like my life depends on it. :) NT

It will be fun to help decide who gets to go back in the house NT

06/01/06 05:24 PM

I'm looking forward to it. Is it Jun 21st yet? NT

06/01/06 05:27 PM

only 20 more days to go and counting NT

06/01/06 05:30 PM

I voted several times too! NT

06/01/06 05:31 PM

I did too - but not for Kaysar LOL NT

06/01/06 05:20 PM

Did you vote for Eric? I don't know who you liked last year, only who you didn't like. NT

06/01/06 05:20 PM

I didn't really like him - just wanted them to get some votes too NT

06/01/06 05:24 PM

That was a nice thing to do. :) NT

06/01/06 05:25 PM

an equal opportunity voter...I love it NT

06/01/06 05:26 PM

I voted for Kaysar. Who did you vote for? NT

06/01/06 05:26 PM

06/01/06 05:22 PM

Michael and Eric LOL NT

lol....It was fun to vote NT

06/01/06 05:23 PM

06/01/06 05:24 PM

Kaysar NT

To TRY to trick the voting system. Assuming that this MOST BASIC of functions would not be in place. NT

06/01/06 05:22 PM

I feel like a broken record. We didn't do it to TRICK CBS we did it to get KAysar back on BB NT

06/01/06 04:13 PM

You tried to manipulate the voting system...the end result was to get Kaysar back in. The attempt was made to affect the outcome. NT

06/01/06 04:15 PM

I didn't try to manipulate anything I simple voted for my favorite HG to come back into the house thankyouverymuch NT

06/01/06 04:19 PM

LOl and what a waste that was NT

06/01/06 04:20 PM

He was back in for sure anyway. He did not need auto voters (and did not get them) NT

06/01/06 04:16 PM

To me they were always a just in case thing. That and to waste computer cycles and bandwidth. :-) NT

06/01/06 04:19 PM

Mltv

06/01/06 03:57 PM

They knew that all of your votes came in. And counted the last one only. NT

Again, how do you know this??????????? NT

06/01/06 04:00 PM

No one can KNOW either way. But what's more likely ? CBS and whoever ran the voting itself KNOWS what they are doing....

06/01/06 04:02 PM

if you don't know for sure then you shouldn't be pushing it so hard

06/01/06 04:09 PM

Just trying to manipulate the vote so that it would not be accurate.

06/01/06 04:11 PM

That's the thing, I'm not taking offense to you saying that we cheated/wasted our time cuz clearly we didn't NT

06/01/06 04:15 PM

The attempt to cheat was in vain. Waste of time is questionable. At least you weren't clicking for 10 hours :) NT

06/01/06 04:16 PM

06/01/06 04:21 PM

Whatever. NT

To assume auto-voters were allowed is to assume that CBS did not know or care about getting an accurate vote. NT

06/01/06 04:22 PM

Well, I think they knew and they didn't care NT

06/01/06 04:29 PM

You think they would allow 50 people with autovoters to control the vote ? Or is it more likely that they....

06/01/06 04:30 PM

Of course they did, but more votes = better for tv. 90% know of course they allowed the votes. NT

06/01/06 05:18 PM

you give CBS too much credit LOL NT

06/01/06 03:54 PM

It's a GIANT company. It's silly to think that they didn't think of the most BASIC precautions, especially knowing the ...

06/01/06 03:49 PM

OH OH "sombody" needs a time out!!!!!!! NT

06/01/06 03:51 PM

itwuzntme

06/01/06 05:53 PM

IDN - did anyone ever post the exact number of votes K got? I know 82% but 82% of what. That should tell us if the autovoters counted. NT

ED's Attacks Are Encouraged By CBS

06/01/06 03:52 PM

I TOTALLY AGREE, the way it seemed to be incouraged..

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09/13/07 12:28 PM

JewelDesigner

09/17/07 06:04 AM

Zach called Carol his Lapdog... He was ready to do any 22 year old inthe house if they had not been horrified by him...He talked of getting babes..

LolaNY

09/16/07 01:16 PM

It's a TV show. It's for entertainment. Anyone finding themselves angry and bitter should turn it off. Zach also stooped to insults in the end. It

reb123

09/16/07 09:47 AM

I appreciate your thoughtful post...well said ...you speak for many of us out here...thank you NT

Ginger

09/16/07 06:57 AM

Get Real...all's fair in Love and BB...it was savagely entertaining with the right ending, it's over!! NEXT NT

rodh

09/14/07 09:12 AM

It being over doesn't make it right! NT

This Article Speaks Volumns about CBS

09/14/07 09:34 AM

Dover321

09/14/07 06:31 AM

Why don't you just turn the show off. It's been a great summer with BB8 NT

KataGarbo

09/14/07 01:54 AM

just a reply to Denise

desertgirl

09/13/07 09:44 PM

Well, desertgirl,

I completely agree with you. For the life of me I cannot understand how anyone could support Dick

09/14/07 12:21 AM

Well that's the thing about life, there are more than one opinions, more than one personality type

09/13/07 10:50 PM

Neva4getme

09/14/07 07:51 AM

That article says it all. BB is my favorite show & I am so saddened to know that bullying without limits is condoned as a 'strategy'. I'm honestly

well said... I have loved BB since the first season......I can only feel sad this year...it was brutal NT

09/13/07 08:33 PM

Ginger

09/16/07 07:02 AM

You believe what you believe

Neva4getme

09/14/07 07:56 AM

well said. well said indeed. It just wasn't good game play, entertaining or the way people should treat each other. NT

Now the results are 62-37 I rooted for Dick, but in real life those tactics would not be acceptable. NT

09/13/07 10:54 PM

I was, actually, expecting it to be the reverse. I was thinking that people that found this behaviour 'normal' would be the ones rooting for Dick.

09/13/07 09:10 PM

It really is interesting and you could make the analogy what if someone in the house was an "animal abuser" as an example, and people

09/13/07 09:19 PM

Exactly. As though it being a 'game' gives license for any behaviour. Although, I'm sure if Dick had been yelling nonstop at some quivering little

09/13/07 09:42 PM

Regardless of feelings for Dick, It is fair to say no animal would have signed up and would be there involuntarily. NT

09/13/07 10:12 PM

Grammy

09/14/07 11:58 AM

Very well said August and that poll is excellent. Why is it not acceptable 59-40? If people are rooting for an obnoxious bully then why

this was a ridiculous article, but thanks for posting it. NT

09/13/07 08:55 PM

georgiadawn

09/13/07 08:31 PM

Wow. You do know it's a reality game show right? I watched Dick's rant on BBAD, yep, it was hard to watch, but it was GAME. Even Zach

emptynest

09/13/07 07:52 PM

What goes on in the BB house actually happens. It is on earth, it is someone's life.

Because it's a 'reality' show any behaviour is acceptable? That's not so in *real life* reality, so why is it in a game? NT

09/13/07 11:04 PM

I didn't write the article, I posted the article, but yes I do agree with it. NT

09/13/07 09:24 PM

Whateve! The HGs could have voted them out or banded together to have Dick removed...they did neither so GAME ON! NT

09/13/07 08:08 PM

JenluvsBB922

09/13/07 07:02 PM

AND the Donato's have taken the Jury out of the Equation!!...Bravo... NT

rodh

09/14/07 09:14 AM

HA HA, the Donato's won!! Go cry someplace else! NT

Nice representative of a donato fan. Says it all right there. NT

09/13/07 06:47 PM

Just in case you don't know this...The discussion board is to talk about the HGs not the posters. NT

09/13/07 07:47 PM

This isn't the "discussion" board, it is "in-depth" and the response above is appropriate.

09/13/07 08:20 PM

nobody is forced to watch the show or on line if u find it disturbing do not watch NT

09/13/07 11:06 PM

spazrina

09/13/07 06:17 PM

nor is anyone forced to post in a thread they disagree with NT

frustratedposter

09/19/07 03:49 AM

Why should any fans have to stop watching the show?

Cry me a river. Everybody hates something at one time or another. NT

09/13/07 06:49 PM

KataGarbo

09/14/07 01:58 AM

ITA, I've been watching since BB1, is it wrong to want players who have the ability to win comps but to also have decent social skills? It just begs

You really get a standing ovation, & a Bravo, for this! I think you took so many of our feelings &

09/13/07 07:35 PM

JG89Bears

09/13/07 05:29 PM

good article NT

first of all - you should have hit the mute button, or better yet, changed the channel! Letter was too long and repetitive - be concise.... NT

09/13/07 04:31 PM

starrysky

09/13/07 04:11 PM

psssssst - Denise didn't write it - she just posted it NT

ROTF! Thank You Pitts :). NT

09/13/07 04:18 PM

not for most of us. work on the attention span! NT

09/13/07 04:47 PM

Thanks a million for saying everything I was feeling as I watched that competition. I cried and raged at what I saw too.

09/13/07 04:16 PM

Delilah

09/13/07 04:07 PM

I couldn't sleep. Turned it off and my blood was boiling. I am no tough guy, but I wouldn't have taken that crap.

Yea what Dick has done is almost as bad as the other 13 HG

09/13/07 11:10 PM

why does no one include the "incest"

09/13/07 04:04 PM

frustratedposter

09/14/07 03:21 PM

Oh puhleeeze.

If I were to be berated - do it to my face, don't make a fool of me behind my back.

09/13/07 04:07 PM

It's' NOT Ok. Really. No matter how you want to justify it.

09/13/07 04:16 PM

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this

09/13/07 04:25 PM

Disagree. By watching, we're informed. By being informed, it gives us plenty to work with when we write to complain to CBS NT

09/13/07 04:41 PM

good luck with that....Arnold never paid much attn to them, Alison probably won't either

09/13/07 07:01 PM

I am sure that there are some activists out there that can get behind the launch of a campaign against CBS for supporting emotional abuse.

09/13/07 07:02 PM

hasn't yet....and with all the YouTubes out there, they've had just as much of a chance

09/13/07 07:09 PM

I was addressing the suggestion that the ones against Dick's tirades just "don't watch"

09/13/07 07:10 PM

Not to mention the coded letter that was pre-arranged with his son. Why wasn't this punished? NT

09/13/07 07:07 PM

puddinman

09/13/07 03:59 PM

CBS screened the letter. The info was useless. NT

Mikentosh

09/13/07 04:20 PM

So cheating is OK if the info doesn't help? NT

No. If the info is useless, how is it cheating? NT

09/13/07 04:26 PM

Mikentosh

09/13/07 06:23 PM

ha ha ha. That is like bringing a "cheat sheet" into an exam but the prof. says ok b/c your info on the sheet was wrong. NT

Once again, Stan, you failure to grasp a rudimentary concept is amazing

09/13/07 11:17 PM

Mikentosh

09/14/07 11:20 AM

There's a compelling argument! NT

jeffbb8

09/13/07 06:58 PM

I don't think they would have figured out the code by reading the letter - luckily, Dick and his big mouth let everyone know NT

I agree totally with this article. I seriously feel that them keeping Dick in the house this year has more or less shown that CBS condones emotional

09/13/07 04:21 PM

Since Dick gets the big reward (final 2) and by having so many fans out there who "love" him, makes you wonder

09/13/07 03:54 PM

Be sure to write CBS about it. If we all do maybe 9 the producers will have more common since. NT

09/13/07 06:39 PM

but you didn't turn it off . . . did you? NT

09/13/07 06:49 PM

I've watched pretty much every episode of BB since it started

09/13/07 04:17 PM

09/13/07 04:29 PM

ITA NT

If you "really" want to stand up for unacceptable behavior - then not watching would be the way to send the message. NT

09/13/07 06:56 PM

Only for the Nielsen families (or so I thought .... correct me if I'm wrong) NT

09/13/07 04:44 PM

Yes actually he was muted until BBAD came back from the storage room. NT

09/13/07 06:57 PM

. . . as I thought. . . NT

09/13/07 04:23 PM

So true. The Donatos have ruined this season for me. I've hardly watched the feeds for several days, didn't watch the show the other night. Ugh. NT

09/13/07 04:26 PM

Painter

09/13/07 03:54 PM

Excellent article and sadly TRUE. NT

Brn2Wander

09/13/07 03:53 PM

Amen...as a domestic violence victim/survior....you couldn't have put it better. He is vile. NT

MaxnMaddy

09/13/07 03:49 PM

Well, Grodner must truly have been kept in check by Shapiro. It does seem to be reaching Springer levels NT

slush

09/13/07 03:48 PM

Finally....the sad sad truth NT

canadaluvsjoker

09/13/07 03:32 PM

Best article posted all season, Denise. My thoughts exactly. It's verbal and emotional abuse exposed in its full truthfulness. It's horrific.

SkyeBlue

09/13/07 03:12 PM

I think we can all agree that CBS is the biggest culprit here. It's sad to even think it but personally I think this is the beginning of the end

BBDiva

09/13/07 02:54 PM

I think you're right. BB is moving into Jerry Springer territory now. NT

Just an FYI, I didn't write the article, I just posted it LOL. NT

09/13/07 02:56 PM

LOL Denise, I never would have insulted the writing if you had written it :-) NT

09/13/07 02:50 PM

LOL Marley, I just got a few PM's telling me how well written my article was and just had to set the record straight. NT

09/13/07 02:52 PM

how written? Don't you mean poorly written? I know. I'm funny. I'm guessing they said well-written if they bothered to PM you :-) NT

09/13/07 02:55 PM

Edited LOL. And I have to find Belle and have a discussion with her :). NT

09/13/07 02:57 PM