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Courtney is not the F1!!!

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01/27/12 11:29 AM

I kinda hope he does end up with her. He got naked with her on a GROUP date. Thats low. I wouldn't want him after that. NT

01/29/12 08:38 AM

It only makes me slightly feel better that he refused it on the group date.

01/30/12 07:05 PM

It wasn't a group date ... she was waiting for him on the stairs in front of his hotel room as he returned from a 1-1 date. NT

01/30/12 08:32 AM

You guys make a very good point. What was he thinking? Although, I really don't think it happens on a group date...

01/30/12 08:29 AM

Ben is not naive. He's been quoted as saying any guy who is offered a skinny dip with a beautiful woman will take her up on it.. To me

01/30/12 02:35 PM

I'm sure any future wife will love to hear this! Nice to know he has no restraint at all and will get it any chance he can. NT

01/31/12 08:02 AM

Gurl, amen to your PS! NT

01/30/12 03:25 PM

I don't just kinda hope, I'm TOTALLY hoping he ends up with her for that same reason! NT

01/29/12 11:13 AM

I wouldn't want him after that either. I personally think Ben & Courtney deserve each other....for the 15 mins it'll last. NT

01/29/12 09:43 AM

I truly HOPE you're right!... and ANY of them would be wonderful when compare with that evil girl. I just see him TOO into her to believe he's....

01/29/12 07:58 AM

Hiding from the dragon?

01/28/12 09:43 PM

01/30/12 08:32 AM

I believe this is the story line..I think he'll end up with either Kaci..or Lindzi..we shall see I think RS is WRONG

01/29/12 07:31 AM

Problem is that we have no caps of Kacie after F4 round. None of her in Switzerland. NT

01/29/12 03:43 PM

Well if she comes back..they could just be hiding those sc..

01/30/12 10:22 AM

Id f you were K or L wouldn't you be PISSED watching him carry on with Courtney? I know I would. Think that would be hard to come to terms with NT

01/29/12 03:15 PM

Honestly, yes. Though his kissing 25 others isn't really much better. NT

01/30/12 07:16 AM

OMG ... this is great! I'm gonna have to watch just to see if your fairy tale comes true!!

01/28/12 10:14 PM

01/28/12 10:23 AM

I want you to be right... do not have any respect for Courtney at this point, but I am with BigGirl below. I have the same feelings I had with

01/28/12 04:27 AM

Could be any one of those scenarios, Cookies. At least there's still a little mystery. I'd say that no matter what happened with Ben, it's been

01/28/12 06:51 AM

TA, Susie. I tend to do reallly well with faking it when I've had a period of adjustment. :) NT

01/28/12 07:50 AM

I have not seen any of these post interviews. Very interesting insight, cookies! You make complete sense to me! :) NT

01/28/12 04:53 AM

Ben's doing an excellent job of showing nothing. Can't tell if he's in love or miserable. He says he's glad he did it. That's it. NT

01/28/12 09:18 AM

I hope you're right, Valen. I think Nicki's still a possibility. Right now he does seem to be into Kacie.

01/27/12 09:05 PM

Would be great if he does a Jason Mesnick and picks Courtney only

01/29/12 04:39 AM

If that happened I'd hope Kacie or Nikki would say no thanks! NT

01/29/12 12:00 PM

And these women would want Courtney's left overs? Well,

01/29/12 06:28 AM

I was totally miffed when he told Kacie he'd been dying to kiss her on the fishing group date. So he did, and then he went and told about 4 other

01/28/12 10:16 AM

Except he didn't take them to what looked to be his room. That had to have meant more to Kacie NT

01/28/12 02:27 PM

Hi bean! Yes, RS getting Fleissed once again would be the icing on the cake! NT

01/28/12 04:52 AM

Ditto, even more than I don't want Courtney to be F1, I would love to see RS get Fleissed and eat a little crow NT

01/28/12 02:25 PM

Valen do you have a source that says Courtney isn't the F1 or are you just hoping based on her behavior? NT

01/27/12 08:11 PM

Hi leeniel. No, I have no sources. These are just opinions based on years of watching these shows...

01/28/12 04:39 AM

I so hope it isn't Courtney, but I do believe it is her. NT

01/27/12 03:37 PM

I think she is. I think TPTB are going for the shock value this time

01/27/12 02:50 PM

Maybe they do not know about it. Remember the previews are edits. NT

01/29/12 04:43 AM

This is a very valid possibility, Lufia. Except, I am of the belief that Fleiss let the spoiler out for a reason...

01/28/12 04:51 AM

I'm totally with you that

01/27/12 02:45 PM

Hmm...I see Nicki as one of the background girls. I honestly didn't even remember that was her name. Anything is possible, though...

01/28/12 04:47 AM

Nicki gets a 1 on 1 date this week (same week as Ben last season) so will be interesting to see if they have a "connection".

01/28/12 12:42 PM

The first spoiler was Nikki as F1. Just open something up and there it was. Maybe? NT

01/29/12 01:51 PM

I think Nicki is a background girl too & had to go a few nights back & look up her pic when people were talking about her cuz I couldn't remember her

01/28/12 10:37 AM

And Chris H. has been bringing up "dark horse" a lot in interviews. It's either to throw us off, or someone not emphasized right now is going to

01/28/12 06:53 AM

Ok I give, what does "slow burn" mean in this context? Think a new "slang" fo rme??? NT

01/28/12 04:50 AM

Slow burn to me means a romance that blossomed slowly. It wasn't hot and heavy from the start. NT

01/28/12 07:07 AM

Slow burn to me is starting out friends and after hanging out more with that person, it starts to develop into more. NT

01/28/12 08:59 AM

TY both... I kept thinking it meant the opposite as burn out..and of course it didn't make sense. NT

01/29/12 04:42 AM

You spin a good tale. I'm with ya. NT

01/27/12 12:05 PM

Thanks Susie! Isn't it more fun to have a glimmer of hope! :) NT

01/28/12 04:42 AM

Love Lindzi & Kacie. I don't know if it's Courtney now or not, but I keep thinking

01/27/12 11:42 AM

I disliked Vienna and thought she was trashy, but I think Courtney is b*tchier and meaner. NT

01/28/12 10:38 AM

See, I really didn't mind Vienna that much. One thing is to get in arguments with the other girls...

01/27/12 11:47 AM

I so hope it isn't Courtney -- every bit as much as I hoped it wasn't Vienna, lol. NT

01/27/12 11:51 AM

Vienna not only one that ever got a bad edit

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01/28/10 03:55 PM

Vienna sort of deserves a "bad edit".......there's not much editing going on with her evidently. NT

02/01/10 12:52 PM

Kristin on Andrew's season - no one liked her either but obviously he did NT

01/30/10 03:21 AM

Almost everyone liked Tina "Fabulous" Panas that season (F3), but she had no chemistry with Andrew. The Hometown Date was

01/30/10 04:33 AM

I'm still not clear on why they hate her so much. It seems like it came

01/29/10 02:34 PM

01/30/10 04:48 PM

I don't get the Jason hate at this point. All of the f3 are happy and in a good place. NT

02/02/10 04:55 AM

I think if they would just stay out of the media it would all go away

02/02/10 09:09 AM

Ya'll in for a BIG surprise then NT

01/30/10 06:08 PM

I agree...if there was a legitimate reason for all the Vienna hate...they would be showing it...and because we are left in the dark

01/29/10 04:29 PM

I think everyone is going to be in for a big surprise when it comes to V and it ain't gonna be pretty NT

02/01/10 07:39 AM

I don't buy that because the dislike started right away which was before her 1 on 1 date.

02/01/10 04:55 AM

I think they dislike her for many of the reasons the viewers disliked her from the start. Her intro video said it all. NT

02/01/10 04:58 AM

Not true. They have showed some of why because I can't stand her alreaady. NT

01/30/10 08:09 AM

I agree they've showed us quite a bit and it looks like we'll see more on Monday NT

01/30/10 08:36 AM

I strongly disagree with you. If Vienna is the F1, then Fleiss would give us the best edit of her he possibly could. If the two are not together

01/30/10 04:27 AM

I think that boat has sailed, MF is not interested in showing anyone in the best light

01/30/10 08:38 AM

Did you read RS latest blog? He says all the girls had beefs with her and she brought it on herself. NT

01/29/10 02:39 AM

Not according to Ella NT

01/29/10 05:58 PM

Jake told her that she brought it on herself. NT

01/29/10 04:41 PM

Yes...but RS was not there...he is only going by what others are telling him? NT

01/29/10 04:31 PM

Ella said she didn't. Just saying. NT

01/29/10 03:02 AM

ella also said there was drama and she tried to stay out of the drama, she didnt say V did nothing just that she liked her NT

01/29/10 11:33 AM

oops, should have completed my thought. I was trying to reply that Ella said she didn't hate her. NT

01/29/10 12:05 PM

But Ella did say the she rubbed some of the girls the wrong way. Ella's too sweet to diss someone in an interview... NT

01/29/10 06:26 AM

She also said she wasn't the only one who had drama. I think the lesson here continues to be

01/29/10 11:35 AM

I am not sticking up for her... but even if she did rub some of the girls the wrong way...what does that really have to do with Jake? NT

01/29/10 08:01 AM

Why does her opinion of her have to relate to Jake???? NT

01/29/10 08:11 AM

No you misunderstood...I more or less meant so what if Vienna rubs the other girls the wrong way...It really has nothing to do with Jake

01/29/10 01:00 PM

Of course it should mean something to Jake. I'd never date someone who made enemies at a drop of the hat.

01/31/10 09:16 AM

All very true, but I think the other girls have some say in this in that his choices may affect how they feel about him. It's not about

01/29/10 01:12 PM

I agree...I think most of us have thought the same thing...if this guy wants her then I don't want him

01/29/10 01:24 PM

But if you come on the show and have developed feelings for him, why would you leave? NT

01/31/10 05:15 PM

I think that when I was younger I would have thought if her than not me too but

01/31/10 06:21 PM

It would make a difference to me to know my intended couldn't get along with people...

01/29/10 01:08 PM

If he really took stock in what strangers have to say about her, then he would be an idiot.

01/29/10 02:21 PM

He doesn't have family to help him. He might write off 1 or 2 of the girls but not all. NT

01/31/10 07:24 PM

Exactly Elvis...All these women are strangers to him...he has to go with what he feels...not what someone he hardly knows tells him NT

01/29/10 04:32 PM

Jake was exactly the same last year as these women. He believed himself to be trustworthy, why wouldn't he believe they were. NT

01/29/10 02:35 PM

I would agree. But, it's not entirely up to him. The girls also have to decide for themselves if he's right for them. If they're turned off by his

01/29/10 02:25 PM

I would agree...If it was life-long friends or relatives...but not a bunch of woman

01/29/10 01:30 PM

I agree that this is not a normal situation, but it isn't normal on any level, not just the "can they make friends?" level...

01/29/10 01:36 PM

Edits have gotten worse by the season. It's MF looking for more shock value. NT

01/28/10 08:00 PM

I don't really think so, Batman, this seems way, way worse than Jesse, Mel or Molly both, Ed...

01/28/10 08:03 PM

Mel got a fantasic edit. Ed's wasn't great nor was DeAnna's edit. Shayne had a dippy one. Molly was edited cold and Jesse like a meathead. They

01/28/10 08:10 PM

First of all I don't agree that Ed had a bad edit, ditto Melissa, Molly, Jesse, or even DeAnna. I liked her until her show.

01/28/10 08:24 PM

I liked Dee until she went control freak during her own season. I still think part of that was liking Graham best

01/28/10 08:31 PM

people will like one contestant over another due to personalities - not necessary what I call the "edit".

01/29/10 05:01 PM

This is over the top, hit us over the head with it bad though. What's up? NT

01/28/10 07:19 PM

I agree this has entered into the twilight zone for me NT

01/28/10 07:44 PM

I liked Deanna on Brad's season. About half way through her season, not so much. NT

01/28/10 03:59 PM

She turned into a controlling shrew. God forbid they didn't bow to her she was livid. NT

01/28/10 08:20 PM

was it the blinking eyes? That did me in .... :-) NT

01/28/10 04:23 PM

For me it was the Bunkhouse Rant. NT

01/29/10 04:05 PM

I am still on the fence about the edit and who will win...

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07/11/11 07:15 PM

The edit this season is just off the chart weird. I don't know that we can compare it that much to other seasons.

07/12/11 11:41 AM

IA, moonchild, and from what I can see this edit strategy is having the effect that they wanted.

07/12/11 03:29 PM

I noticed they barely showed any of their date and the kissing when they were standing was pretty good.

07/11/11 08:43 PM

I'm sure she doesn't want a possessive guy who'd punch somebody out for flirting with her. NT

07/12/11 09:08 AM

nobody wants that. I think it is okay to ask him and dig informations at that point.

07/12/11 09:19 AM

JP is the new bad boy. NT

07/12/11 09:22 AM

very possible :) NT

07/12/11 09:25 AM

07/12/11 08:05 AM

I think Ashley does have feelings for him, but I also think they show/don't show things for a reason.

07/11/11 08:56 PM

I don't know what to think! I'm getting a little nuts about it. Seems like we have the old "in love with 2 guys" thing going on again. NT

07/12/11 09:12 AM

I think the FRC is going to be a tearjerker, that's for sure. NT

07/12/11 09:40 AM

Fleiss said in previous interviews that they try to add heat with the others contestants to build drama

07/12/11 08:45 AM

07/12/11 09:12 AM

Yes they can and they have.

07/12/11 07:36 AM

I don't think that they hid Brad/Emily at all. She was always front and center and was always

07/12/11 11:09 AM

They may not have hid her but hid their connection. We only saw them sitting a foot apart most times. NT

07/12/11 08:11 PM

It was like watching ice queen and dumb boy with his first crush... boring and paintful NT

07/12/11 09:31 PM

LOL, that sounds like what some people are saying about Ashley and Ben. NT

07/13/11 12:48 PM

naaaaa I think ashley is not an ice queen at all.. but they sure both look like kiddos in their first dates at school LOL NT

07/13/11 05:04 PM

It could be because of the trouble it causes for the F1 when viewing

07/12/11 04:23 AM

Yeah but back to Devil's advocate

07/12/11 07:39 AM

I didn't think JP was over the top, I think he was realistically feeling jealousy and he and Ash talked about it honestly and handled it well...

07/11/11 08:31 PM

Imo, the turning point was proved by the fact that Ashley chose to have

07/12/11 08:50 AM

why did he have his bag packed for a date that did not have a rose? Ryan didn't, we know that from the deleted scene...

07/12/11 09:37 AM

I think that Ben knew from the beginning that the date was an overnite one. jmo NT

07/12/11 01:54 PM

I agree. I think he knew. It is also possible that JP knew but that was not less bitter for him to swallow :) NT

07/12/11 07:47 PM

Maybe it was logistics or they fell asleep somewhere. NT

07/12/11 09:15 AM

maybe he drop his precious cargo and he could not find it and took the night to find it? NT

07/12/11 09:27 AM

LOL!! Wasn't Ashley his precious cargo? I'm laughing at the thought of him dropping her and not being able to find her. NT

07/12/11 09:45 AM

TUT TUT .... where is she?? TUT TUT.... jeezz JP is going to kill me TUT TUT HERE YOU ARE!!! NT

07/12/11 09:55 AM

07/12/11 09:30 PM

well, in his defense, she is very small. :-) NT

07/12/11 09:56 AM

There is that! LOL NT

07/12/11 09:57 AM

I don't know about that. JP came across horribly tonight. I think that may come back to haunt him.

07/11/11 08:52 PM

Again Devil's advocate

07/12/11 07:43 AM

exactly. abc producers are always playing the overnight card to add extra drama. I agree it is generally the #2 who is part of it. NT

07/12/11 09:09 AM

bean, did you notice the "what the heck moment"?

07/12/11 01:32 AM

I think she realized he was telling her he loves her without coming right out with it. NT

07/12/11 09:17 AM

I think she realized that she has been in his shoes and the only thing she thought to ease him was to give this rose adding...

07/12/11 09:31 AM

07/12/11 08:13 AM

She was just surprised

07/12/11 03:47 AM

I'd like to know where the clips of the pictures we seen were at

07/12/11 01:28 AM

I think they may be cautioned about open-mouthed kisses or the girls know their parents will watch the show. JP is the only one we've seen her

07/12/11 09:21 AM

no movement whatsoever LOL NT

07/12/11 09:28 AM

I remember seeing the pics where it looked like Ashley was greeting Ben by jumping on him. What happened?

07/12/11 04:23 AM

I know...I kept thinking any minute now and we're going to see something.

07/12/11 04:36 AM

LOL...I've been on the fence since they stepped out of the Limo.....

07/11/11 07:28 PM

Ashley kisses them all like that, even JP. I loved Ben's date and think they could be falling for each other. NT

07/11/11 08:40 PM

No JP gets open mounth kisses with her

07/12/11 07:46 AM

She also initiates kissing with JP. Hasn't done that with any other. NT

07/12/11 09:24 AM

I thought that too. I think they are also a little camera shy. Hard to get

07/12/11 01:45 AM

If our old edit patterns are still in play

07/12/11 07:48 AM

this season has been such a mess.....do you not think they might

07/12/11 08:22 AM

I honestly do not know who is the #1...

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07/11/11 08:57 PM

To be totally honest, I think Ben would fit much better with Ashley

07/12/11 08:34 AM

Agree and Disagree

07/12/11 03:36 PM

I think you have a point

07/12/11 07:40 PM

If JP is the one during the pursuing with Ashley, then he's most likely F2.

07/12/11 04:35 PM

I noticed on their date....she wrapped her arms around him and

07/13/11 12:51 AM

From watching JP the last several weeks, I honestly think he wants her so much that he's exercising "self control" physically. I think when he

07/13/11 08:31 AM

LOL, susie! You saucy lady! NT

07/13/11 01:40 PM

Well, I'd change my moniker to SaucySusie but it's too hard to say when you guys have some wine in you. NT

07/13/11 03:04 PM

hot hot hot! LOL NT

07/13/11 08:35 AM

They are mutually pursuing each other ...

07/12/11 09:08 PM

I think I have the vapors again. NT

07/13/11 03:05 PM

Remember Jesse Csinzak saying that they sit you down and tell you to say you're in love? They need us to think she's in love with 2 people at the

07/13/11 08:33 AM

that's why I think it's best to go by their facial expressions, of course we all read these a little differently, but IMO Ash is pretty bad at

07/13/11 01:42 PM

07/13/11 03:02 PM

lets take the last teaser... they used the same " my heart is totally broken" for B and now they make us think it is for the FRC... NT

07/13/11 08:37 AM

AnneoftheIsland

07/12/11 09:29 PM

Don't say it. *covers ears* la la la la la la la NT

07/12/11 05:07 PM

Titou, my hat is off to you. That is a great post and I have to say that

07/12/11 10:10 AM

I believe that abc is now in their routine mode

07/12/11 11:54 AM

lol, well there's the idea that JP was too obvious to be F1, but TPTB are editing it perfectly. Now people are starting to doubt him... it's

07/12/11 09:29 AM

I don't think JP was over the top jealous...

AnneoftheIsland

07/12/11 11:44 AM

It seems to me that the Producers knew that JP had character "flaws,"

07/12/11 04:56 PM

I think that he could have been played..

AnneoftheIsland

07/12/11 06:13 PM

07/12/11 11:57 AM

I so agree with your post. i think he handled his talk with her very well. And, I agree with him,

07/12/11 11:02 AM

and this is why it is disturbing for most

07/12/11 12:12 PM

I think it's the Meet the Parents date that the F1 has an obstacle. But,

07/12/11 10:17 AM

but there was the whole thing with Roberto's dad and whether Ali was good enough for

07/12/11 03:26 PM

I didn't get that his father was overly concern about Ali. His father

07/12/11 04:41 PM

yeah, I don't think it was a real obstacle, I'm just talking about how the show depicts it. NT

07/12/11 05:01 PM

yeah I thought that he was very honest the same way she was about B.

07/12/11 09:34 AM

IMHO, they have to show negatives of JP sometime. He can't be too perfect cause then we'd think he's it. NT

07/12/11 09:04 AM

agreed. But unfortunaly the green color does not suit JP at all... NT

07/12/11 09:11 AM

Didn't bother me at all- he'd be great in any colour! NT

AnneoftheIsland

07/12/11 11:51 AM

Yeah, the stars seemed to point more to Ben this episode, but who knows how they are editing. I missed the entire Ryan date and his

07/12/11 06:47 AM

well, I was the opposite because I liked Ryan even less after his send-off.. I started the season liking him a lot, slowly started to see his more

07/12/11 09:16 AM

not creepy, just in his own world

07/12/11 09:23 AM

JMHO again, but I think he has some sort of personality disorder. NT

07/12/11 09:05 AM

07/12/11 07:32 AM

Ryan, next bach?

07/12/11 08:17 AM

I thought Ryan was genuine yesterday. I think he is not only cute and smart but a sweet guy.

07/12/11 08:38 AM

07/12/11 05:26 AM

Maybe the clue was all the love talk related to Ben?

07/12/11 04:28 AM

Bean, I think it's more of a clue for her relationship with Constantine!!!! Too funny! NT

07/12/11 11:04 AM

The clue could have been JP in tux and Ashley in the wedding dress. NT

07/12/11 06:17 AM

the peeing dog was seriously the funniest thing I've ever seen on this show. NT

07/11/11 08:59 PM

Get rid of Constantine!!!

07/12/11 08:40 AM

I like him, but I don't think he's really into Ashley. His mom signed

07/12/11 11:58 AM

Hilarious! Omg. NT

07/12/11 02:44 AM

Funnier when Constantine said, "He pissed on our love." LOL NT

07/12/11 01:52 AM

I laughed so hard! That will be fun to watch the bloopers at MTA! NT

07/11/11 09:01 PM

Do you think Sean knows what he wants? What does Emily have in common with Catherine? I just wonder sometimes why all these couples have such bad

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02/07/13 08:34 PM

Guys don't be taken in ,Hotcholate is pulling ur legs, she is a big fan of

02/08/13 07:47 PM

Yup! Sean has said repeatedly that Emily made the right choice & Emily is blogging his season. Do we really think that Emily - who is known to be

02/08/13 09:26 PM

Double entendre, he said "it worked out the way it was suppose to" meaning he's with Emily the way it was suppose to be. NT

02/08/13 09:54 PM

It's just the way it is! Mike Fleiss on January 27th tweeted I'll be shocked if you are not shocked！ NT

02/08/13 07:54 PM

Just found this 2/6/13

02/08/13 04:58 PM

All realistic questions...is Catherine a Christian like Sean ? That could be a huge roadblock down the line, especially when

02/10/13 09:21 AM

Also anxious to hear a religion convo w Cat& Sean. Agree that Seattle & Dallas ver different vibes. Disagree that Sean comes across as fickle. Any

02/10/13 11:10 AM

They do make a beautiful couple! And I wish we could see another marriage but.. I'm going to be realistic, the percentage of that

02/08/13 06:27 PM

Exactly! I am trying to just enjoy season. After nearly betting my house that Emily & Jef would marry, I am not going there anymore. NT

02/08/13 09:33 PM

I never thought Jef and Emily would make it. I just had the feeling he was to inmature for her and she likes younger men but she should be looking

02/09/13 09:34 AM

02/08/13 09:55 PM

I actually think he is with Emily, and there is going to be a plot/twist. I don't think Sean has seen Catherine since the show ended.

02/08/13 12:16 PM

That's a little, no alot, far fetched! NT

02/08/13 08:45 PM

Yeah, and that's why Jef was in Dallas trying to get to know Sean's partner. Why? NT

02/08/13 10:19 PM

I could be wrong, but it's my theory. NT

02/08/13 09:32 PM

LOL! No, Emily is with CH, remember??..:-) NT

02/08/13 05:17 PM

02/08/13 04:53 PM

Hmmm... pretty sure that ship has sailed. You know I am Emily fan but love Sean with Catherine. From what little we have seen, Sean & Cat are having

02/08/13 02:47 PM

Absolutely, from what I remember of Sean in Emily's season he never relaxed with her as he seems to be with Catherine, Lindsay or Des..

02/08/13 06:48 PM

Yeah, he had competition, and he's lead so of course he's more relax, duh! NT

02/10/13 02:27 PM

02/08/13 04:48 PM

What chemistry? You mean lust. He hasn't seen Catherine since the show ended. Even RS said they were not casting for Sean a wife. NT

02/08/13 03:00 PM

Oh, goodness, you might want to check your "facts." Especially the "he hasn't seen Catherine" bit. Where in the world did you come up with that? NT

02/08/13 04:19 PM

Huh? How do you know that he & Catherine have not see each other since show ended? I read somewhere that he's been seeing her every 10 days or so NT

02/08/13 03:22 PM

No he hasn't. NT

02/08/13 03:47 PM

You can check his twitter account and see what he's doing pretty much every day of the week. He tweets everything. NT

02/08/13 03:45 PM

Like he would be telling that. Just because he tweets something doesn't mean he's not with her when he's doing it. NT

02/08/13 08:56 PM

He don't have to but tells where he is when he's on twitter. NT

02/08/13 09:58 PM

okey doke ... NT

02/08/13 03:49 PM

Go all the way back to Nov to current. NT

02/08/13 03:54 PM

I didn't see that RS said that. I don't follow RS so may have missed it. Would you please post that link? Thanks NT

02/08/13 03:14 PM

I just don't believe everything I see. NT

02/08/13 03:50 PM

Which is why you should not assume that twitter and instagram portray the the truth and the whole truth. NT

02/09/13 06:42 AM

Let me see if I can copy and paste. BRB NT

02/08/13 03:19 PM

02/08/13 03:20 PM

02/08/13 08:52 PM

Thanks for finding that hot. I don't see anything about

02/09/13 02:44 AM

It was a comment, because he was talking about I think Leslie is an actress and someone is a model. He said they weren't casting for Sean a wife. NT

02/08/13 03:18 PM

Pretty sure he meant that some of the casting was to move show along but others contestants real deal NT

02/08/13 03:24 PM

No, somebody asked RS did they see Leslie on Happy Endings and he said yes she has a lot jobs booked and that ABC wasn't casting for Sean a wife. NT

02/08/13 03:46 PM

RS know they aren't casting for a wife because people who are actresses and pocker dealers wouldn't want to get married? NT

02/08/13 09:02 PM

Look under my post above this one called "Trina" NT

02/08/13 09:46 PM

I guess if RS said it it must be gospel. He doesn't know what they are cast for just like none of the rest of do. I don't know what he says or

02/09/13 04:52 PM

Well goody! :) NT

02/09/13 05:55 PM

I don't think we should compare any of them to Emily.

02/08/13 06:02 AM

Yes, even when he "felt soo in love" with Emily, now he shows he's not so much into blonds! And then when I think of Emily I think BORING! with

02/08/13 08:21 AM

This show is so scripted, I doubt if much they say is who they are. When Sean was on the beach

02/08/13 05:05 AM

Scripted entertainment. If we're looking for a love story we should just read a Nicholas Sparks novel. It would be more real. NT

02/08/13 08:52 AM

There is a lot of true on what you're saying. In fact sportive guys normally don't do their exercise in a gym and if I'm not mistaking that is

02/08/13 07:57 AM

inally read RS' last couple of blogs and it is so obvious reading who's leaking the infos to him ---

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02/06/10 06:30 AM

It's definitely someone in production because he has info about conversations the ladies weren't privvy to. NT

02/08/10 12:28 PM

can you post an example? NT

02/08/10 12:59 PM

You would be wrong. His sources are not a cast members.

02/07/10 05:00 PM

how do we not know one of the former Bachelors dont get there info. from a producer

02/06/10 06:33 PM

Maybe it is V. We all know she likes to brag about the crap the princess gets away with. This statement is almost as insane as it being Ali. lol NT

02/06/10 04:45 PM

no way, RS is too mean about Vienna. JMO NT

02/06/10 11:10 PM

It was a joke, read my second sentence. NT

02/06/10 11:44 PM

RS knew san diego trip back in november. that leak is not one of the girls. it is possible he is getting info from multiple people

JokerJakeChokes

02/06/10 04:35 PM

She'd know Tenley was F2, but wouldn't talk to Vienna for F1 info. Biggest source is Texas group: In the

02/06/10 04:05 PM

I've heard that Megan the lacrosse coach from Jason's season was his source for Jason's ending.

02/07/10 08:23 AM

02/06/10 06:30 PM

Sorry, but can't blame the "Texas Group" for not having a love story. Fleiss & CH took care of that all by themselves. I'm sure...

02/06/10 06:26 PM

I didn't. I said they bring bitterness and negativity and I just want to ENJOY the romance (if it is there) without sour grapes. NT

02/07/10 08:53 PM

02/06/10 02:49 PM

I don't think it's Ali. I think he has several people involved directly with the show feeding him info. NT

02/06/10 02:02 PM

And did Ali leak the info last year about J/M/M?

02/06/10 10:06 AM

Whoever the leak is...it has been someone who has been spilling it for the past few seasons...not just this one

02/06/10 04:58 PM

If that were true he'd have had info last season and he didn't. It was a bachelorette who spilled to him about Jason's ending. NT

02/09/10 03:55 AM

I would think that if Ali was his leak, he would know much more about WHY she left... NT

02/06/10 10:56 AM

I'd think Tenley more than Ali. NT

02/06/10 07:36 AM

tenley is the root of all evil. she is using ali to get rid of vienna. she is playing games. NT

JokerJakeChokes

02/06/10 04:38 PM

Nah, RS has the same leak for the past few years, Ali has nothing to do with it. Kinda makes me lol at that thought. NT

02/06/10 07:09 AM

Past few years? RS never had access to ANY spoiler information UNTIL Jason's season. It was a contestant then and, IMO, a contestant now. NT

02/06/10 11:03 AM

Jason's, Jill's, Jakes...seems like a few years to me. Capital letters ??? NT

02/06/10 03:17 PM

Jason's season was a year ago and can't think of a single spoiler from RS that led to how Jillian's season would conclude ...

02/06/10 06:08 PM

RS' real plunge into show came with jeremy. since then, he talked to many contestants.

JokerJakeChokes

02/06/10 04:44 PM

1 year. Jason's season ended in February, one year ago. NT

02/06/10 03:53 PM

excuse me, I should have said seasons. No matter, Ali wasn't around to be a leak for the past 2 seasons. Better? NT

02/06/10 04:14 PM

The simple answer to RS is his "connections" never production, but contestants holding a grudge. NT

02/06/10 06:13 PM

I know! Seems like years ago, though, doesn't it. Weird that Brad's season was only a little over 2 years ago! NT

02/06/10 05:09 PM

Thanks for getting it. :) Heaven forbid you mispeak, you get Capital letters. NT

02/06/10 06:36 PM

Okay I would like to apologize and also preapologize to everyone because I tend to use caps for emphasis all the time too. I'm not real snarky just

02/09/10 03:30 AM

Oops, prelsey, I know I wasn't the giver of capital letters in this case, but I have a bad habit of doing it when I'm

02/06/10 07:00 PM

Same here, LB. I sometimes use capitals for a word or two for emphasis, but I forget

02/07/10 02:17 PM

I came to the same conclusion. But I guess we'll never know for sure. NT

02/06/10 06:34 AM

Yeah he seems strangely "nice" when writing about Ali - He might have other sources but she's definitely one of them. NT

02/06/10 08:33 AM

Its possible that he could just be a fanboy. NT

02/08/10 12:30 PM

"but she is definitely one of them"? Definitely? Absolutely, positively, no doubt, no question,

02/06/10 04:31 PM

Maybe cause Ali really is strangely nice. The US Mag didn't even have anything bad to say about her. NT

02/06/10 03:46 PM

Why is RS vague about her reasons for leaving if Ali is his source? He doesn't know how it will go down on TV, Ali knows what she said to cameras. NT

02/06/10 02:10 PM

i do not think they will show ali's exact reason. so, per contract, ali can't talk about it the rest of her life or $5million NT

JokerJakeChokes

02/06/10 04:47 PM

Giving that detail would be to obvious. He has to protect his source. NT

02/06/10 02:32 PM

Personally, I think his source is somebody who works in production. NT

02/06/10 02:34 PM

Me too and I think there is more than one person.

02/06/10 03:43 PM

I also think there is more than one person. I think once he was shown to be credible with the Jason/Melissa/Molly

02/06/10 04:12 PM

I doubt RS could pay an employee enough to risk job loss and a law suit NT

02/06/10 02:50 PM

I Love How Everyone Loves Vienna Now?

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01/22/10 12:42 PM

If they didn't show her talking crap about everyone, how do you know she did?

01/21/10 01:33 PM

I don't get why they can't show us the reason why all the women seem to be against Vienna...because if there really is no reason

01/21/10 04:49 PM

What if it's not on camera? They can't get every conversation that happens there...

01/21/10 04:53 PM

I think its more that she bragged and Ali was intimidated by the fact

01/21/10 06:15 PM

Ali did not start it. Gia did. NT

01/21/10 06:17 PM

Maybe Ali did not start it...but she was the one who kept it going NT

01/21/10 07:05 PM

EXACTLY and like the freakin energizer bunny she keeps going and going NT

01/21/10 07:26 PM

Fleiss is gonna be so happy that he can still pull the wool. NT

01/21/10 07:27 PM

Ali bothered me when she chased Vienna down last week at the CP.

01/21/10 08:17 PM

Thank you for pointing that out. ITA with you. And that was not editing.

01/22/10 08:02 PM

Thats what they want you to see. I know people have been watching Fleiss for a long time & I am amazed at what they still believe. NT

01/21/10 07:07 PM

Funny how "can't be the edit, they must really do those things or they didn't really do that, it's all editing" works, huh ?

01/21/10 02:01 PM

No love or hate here, never have on this show, But I have always tended to pick the

01/21/10 06:30 AM

This is the girl you picked??????:

01/21/10 10:46 PM

I would prefer her to an agro witch who picks fights is a bully. Immaturity can be fixed over time

01/22/10 08:05 PM

I think any Mom would love to have her son bring home Vienna. Just kidding...

01/22/10 04:08 AM

Nothing wrong with being a spoiled Daddy's girl. I would give anything to have my daddy back to spoil me again.

01/22/10 05:59 AM

I totally agree that there's nothing wrong with being spoiled, but IMO there's a line between spoiled and over-indulged. NT

01/22/10 06:02 AM

There's nothing wrong with being spoiled, but acting spoiled is very unattractive. NT

01/22/10 07:11 AM

not as unattractive as being a jealous agressive bully. JMO NT

01/22/10 08:07 PM

That is true, cantgetenough, and I do think there is something wrong with being spoiled.

01/22/10 08:42 AM

I also never look at this show as loving or hating any of them. I try to evaluate what I think the Rose Giver is seeing. NT

01/21/10 11:37 AM

if things go their way, there is no edit. if things go south, it is all edited. they are all characters of a storyline NT

JokerJakeChokes

01/21/10 03:54 PM

Who?? All the people who watch?? NT

01/21/10 03:57 PM

Agreed...because the rose giver is the only person that knows what they really want...and who they think will best be suited to them

01/21/10 01:15 PM

Yeah I've learned the hard way..the fan favorites are never F1. The massive Vienna Hate is a bankable clue

01/21/10 07:15 AM

I was never a Jason fan....I loved Jesse w/Deanna, all of those characters worked out so well...lol NT

01/21/10 08:08 AM

who Loves her ? I must miss something ?I sure not a fan of hers NT

01/21/10 05:54 AM

I have loved Vienna since she exited the limo. She was lively, energetic and there was sparks when she met Jake.

01/21/10 07:41 AM

Last year I didn't like Jake the first episode but after his and Jills 1 on 1 he became my fav. I didn't like Vienna

01/21/10 05:09 AM

point is their editing of vienna now proves she was F1

01/20/10 09:58 PM

I dont think everyone loves her, but how Ali and Corrie have treated her is wrong

01/20/10 09:47 PM

HAHA Not alot of Vienna love around most parts NT

01/20/10 09:08 PM

not everyone... NT

01/20/10 08:30 PM

vienna is his spy in the house. she is against everyone and she has a big mouth. others are in pact and not saying bad things against each other NT

JokerJakeChokes

01/20/10 07:02 PM

Why would he need a spy when there are CAMERAS everywhere??? He's his own spy...

01/20/10 07:33 PM

Vienna will NEVER be a favorite of mine NT

01/20/10 07:00 PM

I don't think she'll ever make it on my fav list, either. She can go away. NT

01/20/10 07:08 PM

Count me OUT of that "everybody" No amount of editing is gonna make me love Vienna. NT

01/20/10 06:35 PM

Ditto, presley. NT

01/20/10 07:09 PM

double ditto NT

01/21/10 10:48 PM

I don't like her at all. I think she must be as annoying as hell. NT

01/20/10 06:27 PM

I guess what Jake thinks is what matters on the bachelor. He seems to like Vienna NT

01/20/10 09:48 PM

RS spoiler right here

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08/02/10 11:47 AM

How does he explain insisting Ali is a single woman for two months now? NT

08/02/10 01:14 PM

Because he is a loser who made a whole website out of one persons leaks and doesn't "know" anything more than that source. ABC played him. NT

08/02/10 02:27 PM

it is funny, you people hate RS for spoiling, but love FORT for beating him. leak is coming from the same source NT

JokerJakeChokes

08/02/10 01:09 PM

There were posters on FORT who spoiled that Ali and Roberto were engaged WEEKS ago. No one listened. NT

08/02/10 02:27 PM

same source(s)...not the same leaker(s). NT

08/02/10 01:16 PM

I may be alone in this...

08/02/10 12:49 PM

I like him too. I love how he usually out-Fleisses Fleiss. MF is evil NT

08/02/10 04:52 PM

I like him. He's pretty cocky and sometimes a bit raunchy but I like him for what he does. I'm glad we can get some inside scoop from someone. NT

08/02/10 04:22 PM

I have always gotten a kick out of him. NT

08/02/10 04:24 PM

you're not alone. NT

08/02/10 03:53 PM

not alone. He waited over a month to report she was single so it could be verified by several sources. He was right about everything the whole season

08/02/10 02:49 PM

But he was so sure right up until he wasn't. Hope it hurts his cred such as it is. NT

08/02/10 04:25 PM

Not with me. He reports what his sources tell him. People can believe it or not. I don't take any spoiler to Vegas and put money on it.

08/02/10 04:30 PM

nope. not alone. NT

08/02/10 01:56 PM

I'm with Libby and IsitReal

08/02/10 02:28 PM

I go to RS for the facts. Its easier to weed through his long winded

08/02/10 04:56 PM

Holla, sunshine. NT

08/02/10 04:57 PM

Hey! How ru? Wouldn't you know, I'm already dozing off.... NT

08/02/10 05:14 PM

No, you're not alone. ;) BTW, he said he knew the full finale scoop last night (8 pm). When did FORT post? NT

08/02/10 12:58 PM

I'm right there with you LibbyD NT

08/02/10 12:51 PM

just read the site! love it! poor rs is a pawn extraordinaire. i luv this season!!! NT

08/02/10 12:17 PM

Holy smokes! I'm happy with this ending though. :) NT

08/02/10 12:00 PM

PLEASE!! What did he do read US Magazine.? He is quoted in People THIS WEEK as saying "Ali is single. She picks no one." What a loser he

08/02/10 11:59 AM

Actually, he had all the information right throughout the season. It was who she chose that was wrong. He did admit they gave him wrong info. NT

08/02/10 04:25 PM

LOL he did admit it. NT

08/02/10 11:59 AM

Awwww should be a good ending then, even if they break up in 6 weeks :D NT

08/02/10 11:54 AM

Just read it on his site..........wowser!!! NT

08/02/10 11:52 AM

FORT beat him to it. lol I shouldn't be snarky because I do appreciate RS's spoliers too. NT

08/02/10 11:51 AM

LOL they beat him by a hair...and I LOVE snark LOL NT

08/02/10 11:53 AM

snark has its place! NT

08/02/10 12:39 PM

I'm not sure if it counts if their site crashes and only a few people get to see it there first LOL hee NT

08/02/10 11:55 AM

Actually I think US beat everybody..lol..At least I won't waste 3 hours watching tonight NT

08/02/10 11:52 AM

now US will the price on their rag mag. NT

08/02/10 04:54 PM

Why? I think it will be fun to see how she gets there. NT

08/02/10 01:15 PM

US had the spoiler. Sorry RS NT

08/02/10 12:03 PM

I never trust them. NT

08/02/10 04:27 PM

I'll watch...I like both guys equally, just think a no pick would have been smarter after the Frank fiasco. NT

08/02/10 12:01 PM

Same. I just hope Roberto was ALWAYS going to be F1. NT

08/02/10 12:09 PM

She must have been able to convince him that he was :) NT

08/02/10 12:11 PM

08/02/10 12:12 PM

Hahahaha you're right about US scooping the boards and RS. NT

08/02/10 11:57 AM

us mag was talking about reporting from actual footage (they presumably had access too). one hand feeds the other. me likey. NT

08/02/10 12:41 PM

FRC prediction- Courtney is F1

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03/10/12 03:10 PM

Courtney's mom? Is that you? :) Actually I would love a season with all of the villans on it like Bentley, Courtney, Jillian's guitar playing guy

03/15/12 04:59 AM

Don't forget Vienna! NT

03/15/12 09:30 AM

Oh, man. That Courtney is one screwed up woman and poor Ben. Cheating doesn't even out her delusional deception. This one will not end well. NT

03/12/12 08:54 PM

Courtney reminds me of a female version of Ed Swiderski. She can barely stand to look at Ben when she's supposed to be saying anything

03/12/12 03:28 PM

Although I haven't been a Courtney/Ben fan ... I agree Bing ... Ben wants Courtney!! ...

03/12/12 02:33 PM

What took you so long to figure that out? NT

03/12/12 11:06 AM

Well, I tend to prefer smart women (i.e., Emily O) over those with anti-social tendencies. Could it be that Courtney has a drinking problem? NT

03/11/12 06:35 PM

Thats it! Thats it! With Ben she can have all the wine she can drink!! NT

03/15/12 08:36 AM

GAWD...who wouldn't guzzle all the liquor behind the bar having to deal with that MOP HEADED HIMBO. NT

03/13/12 04:44 AM

03/13/12 08:59 AM

Funny you say that. I found it quite refreshing to see her face without a wine glass blocking it on WTA. NT

03/12/12 10:49 AM

I think Courtney has an I love the girl in the mirror problem. NT

03/12/12 10:43 AM

She kissed a girl, and she likes it! (it was the girl in the reflection in the mirror!) heee heeee! ;) NT

03/12/12 11:39 PM

Yay bing! I'm always happy to see Courtney support around here. I read and enjoy your posts on that other forum too. :)

03/11/12 03:27 PM

Old news ... We knew the outcome months ago and have watched Courtney rehearse for a Mean Girl show for months as well..

03/11/12 08:42 AM

Fleiss got you, hook, line and sinker... NT

03/10/12 03:52 PM

Whether you followed the spoilers or the edit and actually sleuthed, you should have have Bourtney as the winning couple.

03/11/12 06:40 AM

Well Dave.. what is your prediction?

03/10/12 03:58 PM

You wont have to eat crow...it's a given he picks Courtney. To be honest no matter how one sugar coats there is nothing about Courtney IMO

03/11/12 04:03 PM

Exactly, just like her WTA appology

03/11/12 11:29 PM

Since he picks Courtney, why would I bother to predict that. We've known that for months. My comment re being "Fleissed" is in regard

03/11/12 03:17 AM

I buy that completely. I think the other girls dodged a bullet and when they were out of the "haze" after they got home, I'm sure they realized

03/12/12 03:51 AM

I definately agree with you about Courtney being as fake as they come.

03/11/12 11:31 PM

Isn't that kind of the norm for reality shows, even this one? The only ones who are on the show seriously looking to find love, unfortuanately,

03/11/12 08:20 AM

Dave, unless you have met her, you can't know for sure whether or not she is sincere.

03/11/12 06:44 AM

I just have a real hard time beliving that she is sincere. All of her actions

03/11/12 11:40 PM

As is usual in my business, I know a couple of people who do know her professionally. Let's just say their views helped form my own. NT

03/11/12 10:45 AM

Even so, you don't know what their motives are. Unless you know Courtney yourself, you can't really be sure.

03/11/12 03:42 PM

Actually, I know their motivation. We have a common interest in the business. None of us post what we've learned from each other, because we're

03/12/12 11:37 AM

So are you saying you NEVER form an opinion of a TV personality based on their on-screen persona? I don't really know anyone who doesn't do that. NT

03/11/12 03:59 PM

If I wasn't forming opinions, it would be kind of boring. NT

03/12/12 03:22 PM

ohhhh....what do they say about her? NT

03/11/12 01:42 PM

Ben and Courtney

03/11/12 06:18 AM

I didn't think the people KNEW who the bachelor was before they sign up. Do they know that up front? NT

03/11/12 01:43 PM

Ben was officially announced as the Bachelor on August 24th

03/11/12 06:11 PM

Apparently our sources disagree, but I doubt this forum is the place to exchange information in that regard. NT

03/11/12 10:48 AM

Are you talking about your sources with regards to Courtney

03/11/12 11:45 PM

Costal, with regard to Courtney and how she came to be on the show. NT

03/12/12 11:23 AM

ok, now I understand........thanks!! NT

03/13/12 06:26 AM

I find that really confusing. Some girls say they knew who it was and other say they didn't. Doesn't anyone talk before the show? NT

03/11/12 05:51 PM

Not fond of B or C, but what a nice post, bing! NT

03/11/12 06:58 AM

Such a refreshing post!

03/10/12 03:24 PM

Reading this made me feel sad.

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07/17/12 04:32 PM

"Lingering feelings" could be guilt that she led him on or he didn't get closure and Emily felt bad about that.

07/18/12 05:23 AM

Heck, maybe it's Jef who continues to have "lingering feelings" for Arie and their bromance.

07/18/12 05:46 AM

Well doesn't Jef live in Utah, I think it would be legal for all them to marry NT

07/18/12 11:37 AM

In all seriousness, remember Jef's tweet about there being one thing he regrets?

07/18/12 06:04 AM

Maybe it is wearing the Bermuda shorts and socks. NT

07/18/12 06:37 AM

I think TPTB are hyping this up, so they can use it if Arie becomes TB.

07/18/12 05:16 AM

This is probably exactly true. Getting the tapes ready for whomever they choose as Bachelor. They've got plenty for Sean,

07/18/12 05:48 AM

I thought these paragraphs were really telling because they're not in danger of breaking up:

07/17/12 09:16 PM

Reading this put my mind at ease... NT

07/18/12 04:27 AM

he didn't say exactly who had the lingering feelings. There are usually always some though.

07/17/12 07:36 PM

RS clearly states its lingering feelings on both Ems and Aries parts in his blog NT

AwfuLeeHandsome

07/17/12 08:50 PM

RS doesn't know for sure...that's his guess...but I'm secretly hoping Emily wants Arie back NT

07/17/12 11:19 PM

Question: Why have we been seeing interviews and tweets from Arie that indicate an engagement....does anyone remember that

07/17/12 06:30 PM

I recollect 2 separate things. 1) at end of his ABC conf call back in June, Arie was asked if he would consider being the next Bachelor and he

07/17/12 06:39 PM

Of course Emily and Arie spent time in the Fantasy Suite, regardless of the edit. NT

07/18/12 02:20 AM

Absolutely they did NT

AwfuLeeHandsome

07/18/12 12:57 PM

Hello sunshine ... stay in happy place ... pre finale B.S. ... happens every season NT

07/17/12 05:46 PM

Thanks for the pep talk, suzieQ! NT

07/17/12 06:11 PM

That kinda indicates to me it's true that Arie walks away from her, but possibly regrets his decision now NT

AwfuLeeHandsome

07/17/12 05:41 PM

it isn't a normal environment to seriously date 2 people at the same time. I think what she is going thru is normaal based on what she went thru NT

07/17/12 05:10 PM

07/17/12 05:29 PM

Everyone has lingering feelings. Sean and Chris both said they did. Why wouldn't Arie or Jef? NT

07/17/12 04:42 PM

Yes, that article sent me spinning! I have to continue to think logically

07/17/12 05:32 PM

Exactly. I have lingering feelings for Sean. NT

07/17/12 04:43 PM

07/18/12 02:37 PM

well, if anyone is "lingering feeling" worthy, it would be Sean. I hope we all get to see him settled and happy very soon. NT

07/18/12 06:06 AM

That's sad :) Smooches Not the same I know LOL NT

07/17/12 04:44 PM

Yes, but whatever those lingering feelings are, they do not interfere with JEM, so it's probably nothing earth shattering.

07/17/12 04:39 PM

The article made it sound like there was ongoing contact between Em & Arie. NT

07/17/12 04:44 PM

RS said there was at least one contact after the show between Arie and Emily,but maybe it was early on and didn't result in anything but still

07/17/12 11:22 PM

From what I can gather, it's simple contact, just like with Jef & Arie. Whatever it is, Jef knows about it. NT

07/17/12 04:47 PM

Did you read the article too, BGP? NT

07/17/12 04:49 PM

Actually, I did something that years ago I said I'd never do again.

07/17/12 04:51 PM

Same with me - I said no more!

07/17/12 04:54 PM

It's just that he takes a more sensible approach based on his sources. It makes way more sense than the wetpaint slant. NT

07/17/12 05:05 PM

I just read it, and you're 100% correct. RS actually put my mind at ease! NT

07/17/12 05:21 PM

Yippee!!! So glad you did. It only makes sense. NT

07/17/12 05:22 PM

yes! Em herself said she wanted closure wSean. Lead & F2 always have chat for closure at AFR. Well except for Lindzi; ABC preferred Courtney drama NT

07/17/12 05:46 PM

I haven't read it and I don't know a link to his site. NT

07/17/12 05:03 PM

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07/17/12 05:14 PM

Wish I could link the article. I am technically challenged! I read it on facebook, couldn't find it on the website.

07/17/12 04:46 PM

RS's blog is now up. It's another long(winded) one. Nothing really new said, but he is funny. NT

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01/27/10 06:08 PM

Something that I disagree with RS about...

01/28/10 09:12 AM

did he say it wasn't there on Jake's part or both of their parts? NT

01/28/10 11:26 AM

I agree they seem very close. I know he kept kissing her NT

01/28/10 10:43 AM

Sorry can't agree...Gia could do 1000 times better then someone like Jake NT

01/28/10 10:51 AM

True but she seemed happy kissing him NT

01/28/10 10:56 AM

I have to agree with RS...that kiss looked like a dud...and no matter what she may have said to the camera

01/28/10 11:18 AM

I agree I don't see any chemistry there at all NT

01/28/10 12:30 PM

Hunky guys don't necessarily kiss any better than anyone else... NT

01/28/10 11:24 AM

IA. My best kiss was from a nerd in HS. I was pleasantly shocked NT

01/28/10 12:13 PM

Here's the text for those unable to view ~

01/28/10 03:40 AM

and that that Producer may make misrepresentations intentionally or unintentionally - well well, hmmmmm. NT

01/28/10 01:32 PM

thanks for the article Dreamer ... RS made one point that has made me change my mind about Vienna as F1.

01/28/10 10:38 AM

I think they are showing us the an overview of what happened. A silly Vienna and a hard nosed Ali drawing a line in the sand. Also, an insight to who

01/28/10 12:08 PM

I think whether she is F1 or not...if they had the real reason the others don't like her

01/28/10 11:08 AM

Even Ella said she liked Vienna, and that V was misunderstood. NT

01/28/10 05:52 PM

chris, martin, jake all said they had the best girls this season. that would prove them liars NT

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01/28/10 02:03 PM

How can an opinion be a "lie"? It's a personal feeling, not a fact in dispute. NT

01/28/10 02:07 PM

Can we agree that either their powers of perception are either badly out of line or

01/28/10 02:11 PM

Do you really think they would show the F1 being a huge beyotch to everyone? Then everyone would be actively pissed that he chose her... NT

01/28/10 11:14 AM

KYG, they totally threw Ed under the bus, leading people to believe

01/28/10 12:34 PM

jilbilly was hot tub harris. jake fears god. jilbilly was ready to accept any object with 3rd leg. jake pretends perfection. NT

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01/28/10 02:07 PM

And in the very next ep they had a volcano erupting in the bedroom. Hardly a sustained bad edit...

01/28/10 01:07 PM

But the shows not over, with the magic of editing and storytelling, they can make Vienna become anything. NT

01/28/10 11:47 AM

True, but if she is really F1, my guess is they go NICER not show the bitchy side...

01/28/10 11:59 AM

The preview from next week is definitely not showing her softer side. NT

01/28/10 06:16 PM

After reading this, it wouldn't surprise me if Ali was his source NT

01/28/10 09:32 AM

What I don't get is that if Jake is SO into one of the girls and she is actually that

01/28/10 09:01 AM

it is not just 1 girl. jake said he was in love with many women. fleiss probably lost his mind with the love fest. NT

JokerJakeChokes

01/28/10 02:09 PM

They can and they do.. During Meredith's season, it was all about Ian from the beginning

01/28/10 09:44 AM

I think you're on to something

01/28/10 10:21 AM

I was able to see the chemistry between Meredith and Ian despite the editing

01/28/10 09:47 AM

I think that they can even do both

01/28/10 09:10 AM

I am not so sure they are having great moments other than the first

01/28/10 09:16 AM

I agree. The last episode, the only affection that was shown between them

01/28/10 12:45 PM

It's boring even WITH all of that LOL! NT

01/28/10 01:27 PM

How does anyone have comfortable moments surrounded by a complete crew -- producer, camera person, an assistant, lighting specialist,

01/28/10 11:44 AM

Pretty sure it's that endless supply of liquor, lol. Nothing like a little tequilla to make one come

01/28/10 11:50 AM

It was obvious he was really into her after their 1on1 date...but once he found out the others didn't like her...he has been low key

01/28/10 11:43 AM

I know. That is what makes it so hard to believe that she is F1 NT

01/28/10 09:21 AM

oops, I guess I did not say who I was talking about....LOL!!

01/28/10 09:26 AM

RS can be funny this is the best-

01/28/10 01:47 PM

UH OH!!!!!!!!, tweet from RS LOL

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07/21/11 09:49 AM

If RS is wrong again his gig is up....

07/22/11 01:06 AM

My 1st thought is that the f1 is Ben. It's what I thought anyway and have been waiting for a RS switch.

07/21/11 03:16 PM

Just had another thought - remember last season Brad and Em had set a wedding date for ATFR?

07/21/11 11:13 AM

hmmmm maybe. NT

07/21/11 11:17 AM

the suspense is killing me...

07/21/11 11:24 AM

hmmm that could be another possibility, and a repeat from last season! NT

07/21/11 11:30 AM

It's the only repeat of last season that I wouldn't hate.

07/21/11 11:35 AM

I just have a hard time seeing it be Ben. She is always alll over JP. NT

07/21/11 11:38 AM

I agree! and how do you explain the video sighting in NYC? ...

07/21/11 11:52 AM

Ok, somebody just asked him on twitter if she sends Ben F home early...he said not even close. And it is a repeat from Brad's season. NT

07/21/11 10:39 AM

The combination of both of those tweets makes me believe that he had the F1 wrong

07/22/11 01:54 AM

That he was fooled or that they'd cooled off by the time the ATFR aired?

07/21/11 10:58 AM

I'm kind of now thinking that perhaps he was fooled? Great editing by Fleiss if so. NT

07/21/11 10:59 AM

If JP really isn't F1 and RS got Fleissed again and the show fooled so many with the editing, Fleiss really is an evil genius. lol NT

07/21/11 11:02 AM

There is a lot of the history of editing

07/22/11 01:39 AM

LOL Fleiss. Ah well...JP for the next bachelor!!! I will not watch Ryan. NT

07/21/11 11:04 AM

Ryan reminds me of Jake. There is just something fake about Ryan. NT

07/21/11 02:06 PM

You're not alone NT

07/21/11 06:47 PM

I think Fleise is out to bring down RS NT

07/21/11 11:03 AM

Perhaps...but he does get it right in the end, and he did have all the info on the dates down to a T. NT

07/21/11 11:04 AM

But he doesn't get the ending right.........he's had to go and correct it for

07/22/11 01:56 AM

If he's wrong again this year

07/22/11 07:29 AM

I think people are more interested in him saying who the right F1

07/21/11 11:06 AM

I wonder who fed him the info. NT

07/21/11 11:06 AM

I want to shake the hand of whoever did, and tell them thanks! NT

07/21/11 11:07 AM

Hell's bells! NT

07/21/11 10:33 AM

Ben is the one... NT

07/21/11 09:53 AM

Or JP and Ashley already broke up =( I just don't see it being Ben for some reason. NT

07/21/11 10:04 AM

That was my first thought too, that Ash and F1 have already been through a break up.

07/21/11 10:13 AM

LOL I like both guys but want Ben F. to be next seasons bachelor..

07/21/11 10:17 AM

He did look somber with an air of sadness. NT

07/21/11 10:31 AM

And for some reason Kovacs says he is not the F1 and has seen him around in CA. Plus JP looked so giddy. I'm thinking Ash and JP are having drama. NT

07/21/11 10:33 AM

that was also a part of what happened last season, the drama

07/21/11 10:34 AM

07/21/11 10:37 AM

Tease people much, RS ??????? Not nice. NT

07/21/11 12:14 PM

He should just not spoil things till closer to the finale, if indeed Ben is the F1. NT

07/21/11 10:38 AM

Yeah Ashley said that but she's saying what the show wants her to say so she could be trying to throw everyone off too. NT

07/21/11 10:26 AM

True true....if so poor JP. Think RS was referring to last season of the bachelor or the bachelorette?? NT

07/21/11 10:29 AM

the one that just ended NT

07/21/11 10:32 AM

OK so JP and Ash are dunzo/having drama or its Ben F. NT

07/21/11 10:34 AM

got to be one the those NT

07/21/11 10:36 AM

Anyone plan to watch the remaining shows? I have to watch the Iceland episode just to see the

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06/20/10 04:13 PM

Sure, it's fun. Plus, I've never been to Iceland. Living vicariously LOL. NT

06/21/10 04:12 PM

I always see it through. lol NT

06/21/10 03:04 PM

We all need to keep watching so we can report to jokers and know what you all are talking about~ NT

06/21/10 11:12 AM

I will still watch it. I have never believed in the fairy tale. NT

06/21/10 08:33 AM

Me too...the odds are against any long term happy ending anyway NT

06/21/10 09:42 AM

I think of it as more a mystery. NT

06/21/10 08:36 AM

Still the best season I've seen in a long time. I like that they are providing entertainment value to me:-) NT

06/21/10 11:09 AM

I love watching Chris L, so I'll watch it till the bitter end. I hope we see him alot. NT

06/21/10 07:27 AM

I'll watch it even though I hate the ending. I may skip FRC. NT

06/21/10 06:23 AM

Why do you hate the FRC NT

06/21/10 09:51 AM

It's not that I hate the FRC. I work every Monday night so I have to catch up later. But since I already

06/22/10 03:02 PM

When I have Tivod because of vacations, I never go back and watch the TIVO. NT

06/22/10 03:05 PM

I have a feeling that's what must have happened that caused me to miss the update about Jerry on Jen's season. NT

06/22/10 03:29 PM

It is just never the same afterwards. That's why I like the camaraderie more than the show, itself. NT

06/22/10 03:32 PM

i hear ya. I want to change my workweek to Tues-Sat. just so I can play the drinking game with all of you. NT

06/22/10 03:40 PM

I switch to water in the second hour... NT

06/22/10 03:41 PM

I'm watching it for the reason that I'm going to Iceland/Greenland on Sept. 10th NT

06/21/10 05:46 AM

Wow, that sounds like an awesome trip. You'll have to let us know how it went! NT

06/21/10 11:09 AM

I'm watching it all. I'm enjoying this season and will be interested to see how it all happens. I also want to see more of CL. NT

06/21/10 04:24 AM

IA, I will continue to watch through to the end even though it seems like the ending will be up in the air I still want to see it. NT

06/21/10 08:15 AM

Nope. But like alot of ex-faithful veiwers. I wasn't watching this season anyway because of Ali, NT

06/21/10 03:27 AM

I will be watching esp. since we know the spoilers!! Roberto's hott. NT

06/20/10 11:09 PM

Roberto is reason enough for me to keep watching. He's eye candy! NT

06/21/10 07:28 AM

ditto that. i will also catch the home dates. i am curious about the families. NT

06/21/10 11:26 AM

I wonder when we'll start to get clips of the HTD dates? Don't we usually start to get a few details about them soon? NT

06/21/10 11:35 AM

No. I like knowing the end, but can't stomach this one. I'm glad I know so I won't waste my time. NT

06/20/10 09:31 PM

No, but I will watch the last 15 minutes of the finale and the AFTR special. I have a feeling that this show won't be around much longer. It's jumped

06/20/10 09:23 PM

You are doing what I always did after Byron's season...until Jake's season started.

06/21/10 07:30 AM

wow, it amazes me what great memories you guys all have. I had forgotten almost

06/21/10 09:02 AM

I will still watch till the end. The after the final rose is the most part I want to see.

06/20/10 04:43 PM

I will watch out of curiosity -- we still don't know if she picks Roberto and either way the ATFR should be interesting

06/20/10 04:40 PM

Can you imagine the look on Roberto's face when he saw the melt down over Frank? And his family and friends? NT

06/20/10 06:18 PM

I will watch to the end.....LOL I have to finish everything. NT

06/20/10 04:16 PM

Why not watching after Iceland? NT

06/20/10 04:28 PM

Watching her crying over something like Frank is just more than I can stomach. If you had to pick a man to cry about, I would have to choose Jake...

06/20/10 06:08 PM

If she is crying over Frank and Jake, then the woman has poor taste in men. NT

06/20/10 06:13 PM

I agree...if those are the types of guys she is attracted to...it is not surprising why she is alone NT

06/21/10 09:44 AM

Well, if the crying over Frank is the same as the crying she did over Jake, I think you can rest assured that it will be fake tears. NT

06/21/10 11:13 AM

I bet a lot has to do with her ego also. She loves attention & probably cannot phathom anyone not wanting her. NT

06/21/10 08:33 AM

06/20/10 06:14 PM

Here's what I want. She decides to continue to date final 2 men. After more time with both, her love for Chris grows and her love for Roberto

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07/16/10 08:00 AM

I personally like Chris (and his dad), but I don't see him as a fit for Ali. With Roberto, all she ever says

07/17/10 07:46 AM

She doesn't say anything about Chris except how slow their relationship is. Which one is better, being hott or just considered as a friend? NT

07/18/10 04:01 PM

I believe she says a lot about Chris, especially on their HTD.

07/18/10 05:35 PM

What I saw on the HTD was when she said that he was funny and goofy to his family that they all looked at each other like WHAT??? NT

07/18/10 05:39 PM

Okay, each to his own, but I saw someone that looked like she was falling in love

07/18/10 05:58 PM

she said that in a voice over. I never trust voice overs. they are meaningless because they are producer driven NT

07/18/10 06:41 PM

coastal you made the same assessment of Jake and Vienna LOL...but both these guys are great guys and we

07/18/10 06:26 PM

JMHO, but I think she either picks no one or picks Roberto. (Although I love Chris to pieces & think he is quite the catch) NT

07/17/10 06:54 AM

Nope wishful thinking.

07/16/10 03:59 PM

Going by an editing standpoint.......I really think that Roberto is F2 and Chris is her chosen one. NT

07/16/10 04:08 PM

The show wants you to fall in love with the wrong person, happens every season. Chris has been forced down our throats = next bachelor NT

07/17/10 01:24 PM

Nope I don't agree

07/17/10 08:58 AM

Yep, you got it right. Chris is being bestowed with the reality TV good-guy-friend edit ... regardless of who he really is in real life ... NT

07/18/10 12:36 AM

I think TPTB have purposely edited it to give the advantage to Chris, then if she picks Roberto or no one,

07/17/10 07:00 AM

Charlie did that in his season. He said that he needed more time in the real world with both of his F2

07/16/10 01:05 PM

What is so great about her that she deserves Chris? NT

07/16/10 09:06 AM

better yet, what is so wrong with any of these guys that they should get stuck with her? NT

07/16/10 08:21 PM

I feel the same way about Roberto too. NT

07/16/10 11:20 AM

I think they are both too good for her. She deserves a guy like Frank, which is where she is at, emotionally. NT

07/16/10 03:40 PM

No, she deserves happiness

07/16/10 04:00 PM

IA, Coltrocks. I like Ali and I think she & Roberto or Chris would be good together. NT

07/16/10 06:00 PM

Susie,,you need to be more selfish..What about a whole season of Chris as the bachelor? Hubba Hubba! NT

07/16/10 08:11 AM

I would be like the mother of Moses and put him in a basket and send him downstream before I'd see him

07/18/10 11:35 AM

Oh, susie, you have such wonderful imagery, Hahahah. NT

07/18/10 11:54 AM

ROFLMBO!!!!! NT

07/18/10 11:40 AM

Chris and Ali.....

07/16/10 12:26 PM

Just can't see Chris as the I want to go back on TV type. He tried it once, he got hurt, and he's going home. NT

07/18/10 11:20 AM

07/16/10 04:02 PM

Well he's under contract not to show whether he won or not. Jason said he had to act normal at work after DeAnna dumped him and that everybody

07/18/10 11:22 AM

OR, he is the one that Ali chosen and that is why he doesn't seem heartbroken. NT

07/16/10 04:07 PM

He's not allowed to seem heartbroken. NT

07/18/10 11:36 AM

I don't think Chris was chosen

07/17/10 09:00 AM

i hope not because she is too immature for him. He deserves better. NT

07/17/10 12:07 PM

I don't think Ali is immature simply because Chris doesn't float her boat NT

07/17/10 03:37 PM

I am not sure anybody said that she is immature because she did not pick Chris. My direct impression is that she is immature. NT

07/17/10 03:39 PM

She's actually mature for 25

07/18/10 07:24 AM

After watching her for two seasons, she does not seem to be particularly mature. Perhaps we are using different benchmarks. Having a job and an

07/18/10 07:35 AM

I don't think we can judge Ali's maturity based on a few edited moments.

07/18/10 09:53 AM

I make a statement that I think she is immature to choose a life partner and I don't ascribe

07/18/10 10:36 AM

I think we will agree to disagree and call it a day. No hard feelings. NT

07/19/10 06:19 PM

Next week is supposedly a very pivotal episode this season?

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02/02/10 03:53 PM

02/03/10 08:23 AM

Or maybe it's because of some of the things we are getting ready

02/03/10 08:34 AM

I think its pivotal cause I think he really cares for her. he says she is the one that everything just comes natural with. I think it forces

02/02/10 09:14 PM

I dont see him that into Ali. She is so annoying. I think he sees how controlling she truly is. Ugh. I dont like her

02/02/10 06:22 PM

I agree...Ali is too independent...Jake is looking for someone who will be dependent on him NT

02/03/10 10:14 AM

I agree with you here KayMay NT

02/03/10 11:57 AM

Thank Jil...I also think she is a little too bossy for him too...LOL NT

02/03/10 01:28 PM

Haha you just had to go and spoil it didnt ya! NT

02/03/10 01:29 PM

Truly I don't care for her either

02/02/10 08:11 PM

How would you know? We haven't spent any time with Vienna. Ali & the others have. NT

02/03/10 07:28 AM

exactly my point.

02/03/10 05:03 PM

In many ways, I totally agree with you. I have absolutely no concept of how much

02/03/10 06:08 PM

LL, ITA. There is something about her, even when I consider editing, that totally bugs. NT

02/03/10 07:18 PM

I'd never let another person know they have the power to upset me that much. If I didn't like her, I'd avoid her. NT

02/02/10 08:14 PM

Easy to say but not to do when they're thrown together 24/7 and filmed most of the time. NT

02/03/10 08:11 PM

02/02/10 08:30 PM

I agree! That was a big house.

02/02/10 09:06 PM

JMO but the formula seems to be setting up the rumors of your chosen from the beginning and seeing how it plays out. For instance,

02/02/10 04:22 PM

I disagree. I think we are going to wind up with the nice guys finish last theme

02/03/10 07:22 AM

really? You still think Fleiss is trying to give a beautiful love story? LOL NT

02/03/10 07:38 AM

No, I don't. I said I think that Jake picks no one. NT

02/03/10 07:46 AM

But that's been done before! Jake the "Good guy" choosing the "Bad" girl hasn't...it makes for good dramatic TV NT

02/03/10 09:10 AM

Every season has to have a different twist...so picking nobody has been done...I think maybe this time F1 might reject him? NT

02/03/10 10:17 AM

Fasten your seatbelt, you are in for a bumpy ride NT

02/03/10 11:43 AM

That may have been the plan during filming - particularly after Ali

02/03/10 09:21 AM

Do you think that it could be pivotal because Ali is his chosen one

02/03/10 01:48 PM

Yes and No. I believe Vienna is the F1 no pick ala Brad

02/04/10 08:18 AM

Oooh, that's interesting re: Jillian... NT

02/03/10 01:49 PM

I think so it, Ky. Maybe Jake does pursue Ali after the FRC. That would be a 1st because she left on her own. NT

02/04/10 05:49 AM

Yeah, I'm not so sure...did you read CH's latest comments? He's basically saying Ali and Vie are one in the same lol NT

02/03/10 09:23 AM

CH's main purpose is damage control and I have a feeling that is

02/03/10 09:24 AM

02/03/10 05:41 AM

"it's where they go now days..." - well said. so true. NT

02/02/10 11:18 PM

I completely agree with you, in fact a few months ago:

02/02/10 09:21 PM

Vienna is much more like Trish, Kristen (Andrew's), Bevin, and Moana. NT

02/03/10 07:30 AM

I liked Bevin and Moana: unique girls. Stork should have chosen Moana. Kirsten and Trish, not so much NT

02/03/10 10:50 AM

Good post Petite... I have a feeling the runners are going to get very busy! NT

02/02/10 06:48 PM

I hope not gag a maggot Ali is spoiled and pretentous - if she leaves it is so he could chase her because she is that spoiled rotten NT

02/02/10 03:56 PM

gag a maggot.....omfg that is so funny. Thank you! Ali sucks. NT

02/02/10 06:24 PM

Kirk Dewindt may be in the final four

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04/11/10 04:25 PM

Sorry my first thought is Frat Boy! NT

04/21/10 10:31 AM

He sorta reminds me of Mike Stagliano

04/16/10 09:54 AM

He reminds me more of Landry from Friday Night Lights. lol NT

04/16/10 10:49 AM

One of my favorite characters on that show and I agree. NT

04/17/10 05:10 PM

She must have crappy taste in men. He's fugly. NT

04/13/10 08:00 PM

And he looks like a total tool... NT

04/16/10 08:51 AM

LOL, well she isnt all that herself. regardless. I dont think she is looking for marriage anyway, just fame NT

04/15/10 02:50 PM

I don't think she's looking for marriage either. NT

04/15/10 03:17 PM

Is he wearing a hemp necklace? Good lord... NT

04/13/10 04:27 PM

Apparently he has the munchies in this pic too. lol NT

04/13/10 10:31 PM

And what exactly is wrong with wearing a hemp necklace???? NT

04/13/10 05:11 PM

Oh Jeepers....*shakes head* NT

04/13/10 07:11 PM

??????? and more ???????????? NT

04/13/10 07:13 PM

The definition of a hemp necklace from the Urban Dictionary...

04/13/10 07:34 PM

I don't like it either. This is not a flattering photo by any stretch of the imagination. NT

04/14/10 05:32 AM

OOOOOOOO I C,,, just because of a hemp necklace he is a stonner!!!!!!!! ROFL - you are one riot girl LOL NOT sorry but it doesn't cut it LOL NT

04/13/10 07:37 PM

Okay, how about I think hemp necklaces make guys look like a tool...so there's that, too:)

04/13/10 07:39 PM

Then you are missing out girl LOL NT

04/13/10 07:41 PM

I doubt it...been there, tried that, formed my opinion based on evidence :) NT

04/13/10 07:42 PM

Then I bet he bunny runs on that citation then LOL NT

04/13/10 07:44 PM

04/13/10 07:50 PM

The one you are issuing for the fashion police LOL NT

04/13/10 07:56 PM

What does "he bunny runs on that citation" mean? I am confused. NT

04/13/10 08:17 PM

Lots and lots and lots and lots of folks who are not stonners wear them geeeesh NT

04/13/10 07:39 PM

OMG he went to UW Oshkosh! Where beer pong is a major and the bars have quarter pitchers :) NT

04/13/10 02:31 PM

OMG and just how different is that from ANY OTHER school??? NT

04/13/10 05:07 PM

They are have drinkers but Oshkosh is known for producing drunks who take 10 years to graduate NT

04/14/10 10:53 AM

Didn't FORT have him home before F4?? NT

04/13/10 06:40 AM

Nope, still in the game it seems. NT

04/13/10 10:04 AM

I am hoping that this picture doesn't do him any justice, lol. NT

04/12/10 10:18 AM

It doesn't do him justice at all :) :) NT

04/13/10 05:06 PM

I like this one better........... .>>>>>>>> :)

04/13/10 05:12 PM

i hope we get something better to look at ...after jake and now this? why why whyyyyyyy :) NT

04/16/10 03:06 PM

He looks better, Jeepers. Do you have one like this without that hat? NT

04/16/10 10:51 AM

Don't know if you consider this one any better.... provided by a friend of his and described ''as one of the good guys''............

04/17/10 02:56 PM

Is this the same guy at the top of the page? I like this one better :-) NT

04/17/10 04:47 PM

Yup, it is :) NT

04/17/10 04:48 PM

OMG...please no. NT

04/12/10 08:17 AM

He looks like he is related to Jake!! LOL!! NT

04/11/10 09:43 PM

Why is this board Overwhelmingly Pro Jef?

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07/15/12 11:25 AM

And it's comical how there is a spin placed on everything to make Jef

07/18/12 09:40 AM

I don't get the Jef love so haven't been posting much at all.

07/17/12 01:06 PM

ITA. I have barely posted all season. NOT a Jef fan at all and that makes my posts unwelcome. NT

07/16/12 10:01 AM

Reminds me of Jillian's season when I seemed to be the only one who wasn't on the JED plane. I always disliked Ed and felt that the producers letting

07/16/12 07:41 AM

lol I was a JED fan but now I'm an Arie fan...so it's not as great here for me anymore. NT

07/17/12 11:31 PM

I agree with all points in this post except I'd add that I really didn't like Jillian either. She made bad choices all around. NT

07/17/12 02:54 AM

I have been an Arie fan from the start. I see a strong romance between

07/17/12 03:52 AM

I was against her picking Ed also. I was a Reid fan myself. NT

07/16/12 01:45 PM

I think the ending would have been the same....a break up NT

07/16/12 01:46 PM

To be honest, don't they all end up in a breakup...well the majority like 98%.. NT

07/17/12 10:54 AM

you werent the only one anti ed....I loathed ED...lol NT

07/16/12 11:07 AM

07/16/12 01:16 PM

I had a post about Jef removed because I was in a "Jef fan thread" and only positive posts were allowes

07/16/12 02:53 PM

yeah his fans are kinda overly loyal in my opinion. feel like i'm crashing a party and i'm not invited. NT

07/17/12 11:32 PM

For me it's the complete BS that the show has fed us about Arie. Those in the know in AZ have painted a much different picture of the guy, and

07/16/12 05:21 AM

I don't know. It's a little lonely here for us folks who aren't bananas over Jef. I don't feel comfortable even

07/15/12 03:40 PM

I don't get it either....but I hope they aren't setting themselves up for a disappointment....HOWEVER, I doubt they are. NT

07/15/12 03:46 PM

*****Scoots over for elle225***** I'm so sorry that you've felt uncomfortable. :( That hurts my heart.

07/15/12 03:43 PM

07/15/12 04:35 PM

Spoiler Alert inside her post..... And so sorry you feel that way.... but been Arie fan since day one but changing over to 1F because the love

07/15/12 03:30 PM

Cookies -- I just realized that you have your very own JU title!!! I freaking LOVE it, lol! NT

07/15/12 03:39 PM

I think the general concensus is we are pro (insert your favorite) not con (other guy) Last few seasons were drama, we're happy with this one NT

07/15/12 02:15 PM

For me its not anything the f3 or f3 did...its just Jef and the way they are together

07/15/12 12:51 PM

It's not just the board.. it's pretty clearl that all social media is pulling for Jef based on followers on twitter, instagram, etc. the same could

07/15/12 12:21 PM

And we can critique his "moves" to see if they are always the same. Ooooooh. Getting pumped. NT

07/15/12 12:27 PM

Some of us just really really like Jef and want her to pick him. We are all entitled to our opinions, and if anyone is blatantly mocking, shame

07/15/12 12:14 PM

they are still opinions so valid on this site. NT

07/17/12 11:34 PM

I guess I have missed the blatant mockery since I usually stay here. Did I miss something? NT

07/15/12 12:36 PM

Lordy, no, neither of them treated her bad, and I for one have seen nothing but respect for the both of them.

07/15/12 12:00 PM

We've just been asking for a real love story for many seasons, and some of us think we see one here. That is the cause for jubilation. NT

07/15/12 12:17 PM

Actually, I saw more than one...which led me to believe tha...et she could not go wrong with either of her final three... NT

07/16/12 01:52 PM

Exactly! My favorite is Em's favorite. What's magical this season is F3 plus Em so very likable & sincere. NT

07/15/12 07:17 PM

I love this board. Yes, there are a lot of Jef fans, but Sean and Arie fans are here too. All fans are welcomed. Very supportive. NT

07/15/12 11:55 AM

Wow! I've been to quite a few boards & we pretty much love all three guys. Only guy that I personally mocked a little was Chris. Love Arie & Sean NT

07/15/12 11:44 AM

But only after he acted like a real baby NT

07/15/12 03:40 PM

Thank you Trina! Yes, only after he practically begged to be mocked. But he seems to win points tomorrow. NT

07/15/12 07:19 PM

I would NEVER mock Sean or Arie. I think both are handsome sexy

07/15/12 11:38 AM

Like we tell our little granddaughter -- you don't hate ANYBODY. Some adults need to learn same. NT

07/15/12 12:28 PM

Well, you have to read the board and you will find that we are just answering questions asked or we are finding videos we think are cute...

07/15/12 11:34 AM

I, for one, won't be unhappy if she really didn't choose anyone at the end.

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06/21/10 11:06 AM

It's the best season I've watched in a while too and I actually respect her for not choosing. If it wasn't there, it wasn't there. At least she didn't

06/21/10 04:41 PM

It's up to her to make that decision. We just get to come along for the ride. I like her and Frank, I think they have amazing chemistry.

06/21/10 04:24 PM

Also, that could cause her to doubt everything so if she doesn't choose anyone, it's understandable. NT

06/21/10 06:07 PM

What happened? Spill! NT

06/21/10 04:28 PM

Given the track record for most of these couples, choosing no one is actually the best option. NT

06/21/10 03:19 PM

I won't be angry because it is what it is, but for me it would be one of the worst seasons ever.

06/21/10 02:13 PM

It is only interesting to me because of the travel involved to the various places. NT

06/21/10 02:01 PM

I will only be upset with Ali if I see someone I really like hurt. NT

06/21/10 12:20 PM

I think Ali lacks confidence in herself and in her relationships

06/21/10 11:34 AM

father left when she was a child. she talks about it. NT

06/21/10 12:32 PM

no excuses plz for this girl. she is plenty old enough. age is not the problem. mental stability is...

06/21/10 11:23 AM

Look, I like these two guys, too! But, I also know that you can't force it to be there when you're not ready.

06/21/10 11:33 AM

Just because you are given 25 people to date & get to know...in this form of speed dating...not to mention group dates

06/21/10 01:07 PM

06/21/10 04:45 PM

that's a different conversation. my point is that she went straight for the loosers that fed her abandonment story.

06/21/10 02:34 PM

I am confused. Do you think Ali purposely chose two Mr. Wrongs or she chose subconciously? NT

06/21/10 04:52 PM

I will answer generally and say that people generally chose on a more subconscious level. We are attracted to who we are attracted to. NT

06/21/10 04:54 PM

06/21/10 05:05 PM

Further, i think when we are attracted to somebody different, it's because a fundamental shift as occurred inside us. NT

06/21/10 05:07 PM

that makes sense :-) NT

06/21/10 05:11 PM

I don't get the straight acting/looking gay men part of this. As for her going straight for the

06/21/10 03:55 PM

i agree about the straight acting/lookin gay men part. my first thought with this whole thing is that Ali...

06/21/10 05:04 PM

Kinda what I was trying to say, but you said it better. You have to love yourself first, and only then can you accept love. NT

06/21/10 08:02 PM

thanks :-). Ali seems very insecure to me. Her comment tonight about being terrified he will not love her back said it all for me. NT

06/21/10 08:48 PM

She has been saying it her entire season....I wonder what has happened to cause such an insecurity. NT

06/22/10 03:36 AM

I suspect it is a case of always feeling as if she is second best in relationships. NT

06/22/10 12:02 PM

It's kinda sad :'( NT

06/22/10 05:11 AM

KayMay, as usual, we are on the same page:-) NT

06/21/10 01:28 PM

I have a problem with the concept of engagement/marriage but not dating

06/21/10 01:19 PM

I couldn't agree more. I never understood the Brad backlash. I can't see realistically proposing to someone after this experience. It's

06/21/10 01:13 PM

I don't understand the backlash either. I would actually be more understanding if there was backlash to those that were faking/pretending

06/21/10 05:10 PM

She comes across as way too young and unsettled to me. Chris seems too old for her. NT

06/21/10 11:08 AM

She is way too young to get married at this point, at least emotionally.

06/21/10 11:15 AM

06/21/10 09:59 PM

When she starts referring to them as "men" not boys. NT

06/21/10 01:12 PM

That's annoying. You're a gown woman not 14. Call them men. NT

06/21/10 03:07 PM

Yeah, that makes me cringe everytime I hear it. Maybe it's because I've got 10 years on her, though. NT

06/21/10 01:29 PM

Yay.......New drinking game LOL!!! Boy, boy, boy....burp.... NT

06/21/10 04:10 PM

Another Board reports Emily is f1!

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02/27/11 12:02 PM

I just jumped into the spoiler forums the other day and wasn't sure how I felt about the original spoiler. I saw something

02/27/11 07:37 AM

any one think this story planted to stir up some drama and ensure viewership? trying to cast doubt ? NT

02/27/11 05:36 AM

I think so because of all the Ashley/Emily Bachlorette talk

02/27/11 10:24 AM

if Emily is f1 I'd love to hear from RS why he believed so strongly the thanksgiving dinner tip was legit

02/27/11 11:13 AM

yeah, maybe. The person who reported this on Fort had a trusted source who lied to her about Andy's season...

02/27/11 06:39 AM

RS says his major annoucement has nothing to do with changing his F1 spoiler NT

02/26/11 07:08 PM

Where did he say that? NT

02/27/11 08:10 PM

Some Forters asked him in emails and he replied, they posted his responses over there. NT

02/28/11 07:08 AM

Bachelor Finale Spoilers: Is Reality Steve Wrong About Who Wins Season 15?

02/27/11 09:13 PM

Second to the last paragrah i "Women Tell All" post above NT

02/27/11 08:13 PM

I read that but I don't see where he's saying it has nothing to do with his F1 spoiler. NT

02/27/11 08:25 PM

I swear I read it too, but now can't find the exact quote. Can someone help NT

02/27/11 08:47 PM

I am going to be really upset if this is true, I like the original ending Chantel and Brad :( NT

02/26/11 07:00 PM

but dont you believe that is to obvious for viewers to believe Em F1 because

02/26/11 06:27 PM

I have a friend with ties to the Hendrick's family in Charlotte...they say Brad does not pick Emily and she is currently dating Dale Jr. NT

02/26/11 05:21 PM

Emily is not dating Dale Jr. He's dating a woman named Amy. NT

02/26/11 08:15 PM

I felt like the story I was told was to throw everyone off...meaning Emily is F1 NT

03/03/11 10:19 AM

That I believe! NT

02/26/11 07:01 PM

I heard Dale was dating Elizabeth Peschock but I also heard they recently broke up so who knows NT

02/26/11 06:41 PM

Liz was quite a bit ago. Last I heard, his girlfriend was a woman named Amy. She was seen at his NYE party. NT

02/26/11 08:21 PM

Now that I have given in to the spoilers... and very bored... I found this listing...

02/27/11 03:33 PM

Yeah, Dale Jr does not have the best reputation as far as dating goes.

02/27/11 03:40 PM

I read on FORT that Dale Jr has a gf that he has been with for over a year. Also

02/26/11 05:25 PM

Internet search has him dating an Amy back at least in 2009, (she was wife of another driver) NT

02/27/11 05:19 AM

correction, a college foot ball coach. NT

02/27/11 01:15 PM

Amy was married but not to another driver. If Jr were with Emily, it would be all over every NASCAR site. NT

02/27/11 12:14 PM

Totally agree and I saw nothing except references to her years ago NT

02/27/11 01:16 PM

Yeah, Dale Jr and Emily went to a boxing match a few years ago. Not sure they ever really dated. NT

02/27/11 02:06 PM

I think they did. I found another site, who is dating who... old information maybe but

02/27/11 03:21 PM

That isn't too reliable though. Anyone can edit it. Some woman kept editing in that she's married to Shemar Moore. NT

02/27/11 03:40 PM

Blondiegal, over on FORT, is the one who received info yesterday that Brad chose Emily, and they are engaged. NT

02/26/11 03:23 PM

If I remember correctly, she has been wrong in the past. NT

02/27/11 12:05 PM

I do believe anyone that thinks Emily is final one is in for dissappointment!!! NT

02/26/11 03:17 PM

02/26/11 01:24 PM

I thought it has been said he has been seen in WA several times NT

02/26/11 06:15 PM

Well, based upon what we know from previous seasons, Brad in WA is simply not true. Moreover, the Thanksgiving story can't be true, either NT

02/28/11 05:24 AM

I agree that Thanksgiving story is not true as they are not to tell anyone they are together. They would have had to rent a house,

03/03/11 10:37 AM

If you didn't know the F3 what would you be thinking? I would be leaning towards Ty

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07/05/10 07:41 AM

Roberto, Chris, Frank in that order. NT

07/05/10 05:17 PM

Frank, Roberto and Kirk NT

07/05/10 02:48 PM

No, not at all.

07/05/10 08:32 AM

hmmm...i would think Frank, Roberto, and Chris still with Frank being #1 and Roberto #2. NT

07/05/10 08:02 AM

to add to my answer: i see more chemistry with chris than ty, but i think she sees them both as friends. frank and roberto are the only two i've seen

07/05/10 08:12 AM

I agree that she sparkles around Frank and Roberto. Chris is an absolutely wonderful guy, but IMO she just isn't feeling romantic towards him. NT

07/05/10 11:22 AM

she really does sparkle. it's cute how giddy she is around roberto (i would be too...lol), but it seems obvious to me that she wants frank. makes me

07/05/10 11:44 AM

I dub you the new ChRobKlaws. Like Crab Claws with an O. :) NT

07/05/10 12:05 PM

lmao, idk how to take that!!! maybe i should start practicing using my klaws on you. :P NT

07/05/10 12:12 PM

Rawr! Hahahaha, no it's just an easy way for me to remember what I dubbed you! I'm older and more forgetful. Plus, my BF has me a little tired. NT

07/05/10 12:14 PM

lol, if you keep ruining my appetite, i am gonna klaw you. no maybe about it. hehehe. NT

07/05/10 12:24 PM

Ahahahhahahahaha! Old girlies just wanna have fun, too! NT

07/05/10 12:26 PM

old girlies okay, but your bf? no thank you. maybe you could renegoitiate your bf for a friend? lol NT

07/05/10 12:29 PM

Would I have the option to renew the boy toy at some later date? NT

07/05/10 12:32 PM

for a friend. okay...if you must, but please time the announcement so it's not right before breakfast/lunch/dinner. :) NT

07/05/10 12:34 PM

I kid you not, my side is cramping from being bent over in laughter! NT

07/05/10 12:36 PM

me too, at least we're getting an ab workout sitting at the computer. can't say we're unproductive...lol NT

07/05/10 12:38 PM

I think Ty would be in it, too. BTW, Frank doesn't live in my basement anymore. He's in my penthouse suite.

07/05/10 08:01 AM

I get the friend vibe with Ty. She let him kiss her but she never went after more. I'd pick Kirk over Ty. NT

07/05/10 12:53 PM

oh my goodness. kirk. i forgot all about kirk still being there. poor kirk. NT

07/05/10 12:56 PM

07/05/10 01:05 PM

ikr. a non-entity. now that i remember him, i am mad ty goes before him. lol NT

07/05/10 01:10 PM

Well that's just crap. I'm ticked, too! NT

07/05/10 01:18 PM

we're kinda skeery when we're mad... NT

07/05/10 01:19 PM

****Remembers and crawls under the cover**** NT

07/05/10 01:28 PM

lol...yup he's all yours :-). NT

07/05/10 08:03 AM

Thanks, Klawsie! Everyone can feel free to refer to him as Lburg's man. He's my favorite form of entertainment! NT

07/05/10 08:08 AM

lol, I will remember that tonight when talking about him. how about L's man? ;-) NT

07/05/10 08:13 AM

Yes, that's perfect. I'm afraid we're going to be absent this afternoon. I'm teaching him "What Cougars Expect 101." After that,

07/05/10 08:37 AM

lol you're a hoot. maybe we should come up with a nickname for you two...frurg? NT

07/05/10 08:44 AM

Yes, we'll be doing ***cough*** instructional exercises **cough** on the fur rug, too. Faux fur for all the PETA peeps.

07/05/10 08:48 AM

rolmao! and i just ate lunch :P NT

07/05/10 08:51 AM

And just because I like you, Klawsie, I will be willing to share him with you at some later date. I'm sure you're going to change your mind about

07/05/10 09:04 AM

I like you too, but silly, lburg, trix are for kids and a tricky rabbit he is...lol! NT

07/05/10 09:08 AM

ROFL! OK, just don't say I didn't offer, lol! NT

07/05/10 09:13 AM

thank you, i think? lol. the good news is, you stopped me from over eating at the even the idea. :) NT

07/05/10 09:16 AM

ROFL, Lburg. NT

07/05/10 08:42 AM

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07/22/11 07:59 AM

I don't mind if it's true because I just want Ben to be happy but don't believe it.

07/22/11 04:36 PM

Possible outcome

07/22/11 04:20 PM

Well, I like your first post, corgi7! Welcome aboard!!!!!!!!!! NT

07/22/11 04:26 PM

I had a feeling it was something like this, but I'm disappointed if true, I really wanted Ben as Bachelor. Now we'll get stuck with annoying

07/22/11 11:45 AM

What about Ames?? He was my favorite choice for TB anyway no matter who is F1.

07/22/11 12:38 PM

Ames would be wonderful but he appears to be taken. NT

07/22/11 12:40 PM

Since when? I didn't hear that rumor NT

07/22/11 05:16 PM

He's with Jackie from Brad's 2nd season. Reportedly. NT

07/22/11 05:28 PM

Ben C or Constantine please! We already had a Jake, no need to recast. NT

07/22/11 12:49 PM

LOL I kind of dig "meathead" Constantine. I would watch it if he is shirtless at least 50% of the time ;) NT

07/22/11 12:28 PM

I like Constantine, too. I was pleasantly surprised by his HTD and a more

07/22/11 12:34 PM

Yay!!! This makes me so happy LOL! Trust me, Ben! You have just dodged a bullet! NT

07/22/11 09:44 AM

Reality Steve is such an attention seeking jerk. He thinks it's funny that many people thought that the final 1 had switched again and that he fooled

07/22/11 08:52 AM

Not arguing his jerklihood (new word) one iota, but we do use him each season and

07/22/11 08:57 AM

I know he always gives us the final two with accuracy. Not always in the right order though. I just hate giving an a----- so much attention. He loves

07/22/11 09:19 AM

No arguments from me. ITA. :) NT

07/22/11 09:27 AM

LAME! Totally to drive traffic up! NT

07/22/11 08:22 AM

excerpt for RS post

07/22/11 08:17 AM

Thanks for this! I don't remember Britt, though. NT

07/22/11 08:15 AM

Brad dumped her on a one on one and sent her off on a dinghy. NT

07/23/11 04:45 PM

I do....she was a very, very thin blond.....pretty but anorexic looking to me. NT

07/22/11 03:09 PM

She just tweeted that there was no validity to that rumor. NT

07/22/11 11:26 AM

I believe her and not RS. If they were dating they'd keep it out of the public eye. NT

07/22/11 01:42 PM

I suppose she has to since the ending hasn't played out yet. NT

07/22/11 11:43 AM

Britt was the sweet blond he kept giving a rose to but we rarely saw her. NT

07/22/11 08:26 AM

Britt was the super skinny one who he dumped on the yacht NT

07/22/11 08:18 AM

Britt is a food critic/writer and lives in San Fran

07/22/11 09:47 AM

Oh, yeah. I kind of liked her (what little they showed). How did he already meet her, though? NT

07/22/11 08:45 AM

She lives in San Fran...like Ben NT

07/22/11 08:46 AM

Oh, right! Thanks for the reminder, goodgirl. I thoguht she was a lovely, sweet girl. NT

07/22/11 08:19 AM

totally makes sense...Ben has been kind of vocal and flirty with her on twitter..and with Michelle M.. I thought it was weird NT

07/22/11 08:27 AM

He actually never tweeted Britt except in a reply all to Nick. None of his tweets were flirty to anyone, mostly just funny. NT

07/23/11 08:00 AM

So, he's not somber and sad at all, then. :) Good for him. Nice rebound, Ben! NT

07/22/11 08:33 AM

She is a Stanford Grad too...good for him! She seems to be tight with Jackie, who is dating Ames too. NT

07/22/11 08:40 AM

After all, we just want everybody to be HAPPY, don't we?????? NT

07/22/11 12:05 PM

Sure thing! Is it me or are all the bachelor/bachelorette cast offs hooking up more than usual lately? Must be something in the mansion water. NT

07/22/11 12:30 PM

Britt has gone on record denying this - see above NT

07/22/11 09:56 PM

I hope they make Ali the next bachelorette NT

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01/27/10 05:13 PM

Potential bachelor applicant will look at this show and say Ali = drama/controlling. Gia = beautiful, sexy and no drama. NT

01/28/10 04:33 PM

Pass. She's not getting a TB edit either. Looks like Gia could be the one they are priming for it as of now. Tenly is another option but I think she

01/28/10 10:18 AM

Have they ever had a fresh Bachelorette? Why do they always use someone from the previous season? Is it because

01/28/10 08:59 AM

I've always thought they like having someone who knows how the show works. NT

01/31/10 05:23 PM

I think they are just after the ready made fan base which = instant ratings NT

02/01/10 07:40 AM

But a recycled contestant brings a fanbase. Jillian is a perfect example. Someone new viewers may not care/connect with. NT

01/28/10 11:52 AM

I do see the logic, but I honestly don't think any of the girls from this season would make a good or likable Bachelorette. NT

01/28/10 12:11 PM

No Way, shes average at best, personality sucks- Gia would be a better choice NT

01/28/10 08:57 AM

My answer to Ali as "The Bachelorette would be... NOPE... NAY... NO... NEVER EVER...LOL NT

01/28/10 10:13 AM

Plus the men would have to leave their manhood in the limo because she's definitely not going to let them use it. NT

01/28/10 09:47 AM

strong people can handle it. i do not have problem with ali and vienna as long as they are real NT

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01/28/10 02:14 PM

I don't understand why Ali having a mind of her own and not being

01/28/10 09:57 AM

Because she is a horrible biotch. Having an opinion is one thing, forcing YOUR opinion on others, and expecting them to

01/28/10 06:17 PM

And is there inside info that would prove the other girls are nothing more than Ali's minions? I don't see her

01/29/10 05:35 AM

I agree. Ella, for example, said she likes Vienna. I do think

01/29/10 08:17 AM

ITA - well stated NT

01/29/10 07:11 AM

Exactly, bean and lburg:) NT

01/29/10 06:30 AM

You obviously feel strongly about Ali just as she does about Vienna but the difference is that she knows her.

01/29/10 05:16 AM

Yeah, she really had to twist everyone's arm... NT

01/28/10 06:19 PM

group think. NT

01/28/10 08:47 PM

Or else juse people agreeing about someone. It's so insulting to insinuate the girls are just rats following Ali like the Pied Piper... NT

01/28/10 08:53 PM

I guess Ali's got that group thing working on the production people and the show editors as well!

01/28/10 08:58 PM

And don't forget Trista Ryan and Reality Steve...they are followers, too:) NT

01/28/10 08:58 PM

01/28/10 12:47 PM

I agree with this! NT

01/28/10 12:36 PM

I don not care for Ali's personality at all. I would have to skip that season! NT

01/28/10 08:39 AM

NO! NO WAY!Absolutely NOT! Gia is the only suitable candidate for Bachette, just think of the hotties we will get to watch... NT

01/28/10 07:54 AM

I like her too, I think she's very natural, has alot of confidence and is not afraid to speak her mind, I'd watch her in a heartbeat NT

01/28/10 07:44 AM

I think she'd be good. She's outspoken and has a good personality. I doubt she'd do it though. NT

01/28/10 07:29 AM

I agree, but I would also like to see Gia as the next -ette NT

01/28/10 07:30 AM

I'm don't think I'd enjoy Gia as the Bachelorette, she's ok, but a little to coy for my taste NT

01/28/10 08:52 AM

No thank you!! NT

01/28/10 06:31 AM

I vote No.....none of them...fresh meat please, I'm tired of re-ground round. NT

01/28/10 05:54 AM

I say, "Let's Not" :). I would rather Gia or Tenley:) NT

01/27/10 05:34 PM

I would not watch that for a minute NT

01/27/10 05:31 PM

No, she's getting a Bitter Betty edit. No one wants to see that again. It would be more likely to be Gia. NT

01/27/10 05:21 PM

So I guess we need names for Ali/Roberto & Ali/Chris. Suggestions? NT

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06/02/10 06:38 PM

RAli and CAli NT

06/06/10 06:23 AM

I like these too! NT

06/08/10 03:13 PM

I like these..Easy to say and remember! NT

06/06/10 06:54 AM

I like Chrisali - full name mash LOL NT

06/05/10 11:17 AM

That reminds me of Krisily from Charlie's season. Not sure I like the association:-( NT

06/05/10 11:59 AM

Got nothing for Ali/Roberto but I like Chali for Chris/Ali. NT

06/02/10 06:42 PM

That's what I thought, ESPN. And I was thinking Alerto. NT

06/02/10 06:43 PM

I like Alerto...even though I think he would be better as the next Bachelor! How about Lambi (since Chris's last name is Lambton) NT

06/02/10 07:00 PM

That's so cute. NT

06/02/10 07:00 PM

Kinda like Bambi, only not...hey, didn't Bambi's mom die, too? Kind of a literary reference there. NT

06/02/10 07:03 PM

That sounded bad after I wrote it. I really like Chris L, so I didn't mean to offend by that comment. NT

06/02/10 07:04 PM

We know you don't have a mean bone in your body, Bach. NT

06/02/10 07:06 PM

I can be a bit snarky, but I try not to snark about the dearly departed... NT

06/02/10 07:07 PM

I love snark and don't take it seriously. People know I am snarky, too. Not mean, simply snarky. Big difference. NT

06/02/10 07:09 PM

Good. Makes things more fun...and since this is the only guilty tv pleasure I have time to obsess over, I say bring on the snark!!! NT

06/02/10 07:13 PM

I was thinking big beautiful eyes................. NT

06/02/10 07:05 PM

06/02/10 07:07 PM

Alerto and Alis NT

06/02/10 06:41 PM

Holla, dlee. NT

06/02/10 06:44 PM

Bueno Diaz Sassy! NT

06/02/10 06:47 PM

Alerto fan? Hey dlee! NT

06/02/10 06:49 PM

I only watched the first episode. I like Roberto though. He could make a good Bachelor. I think he will be the next one. NT

06/02/10 06:51 PM

Roberto es muy caliente NT

06/02/10 06:58 PM

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06/02/10 06:59 PM

I wish I knew the Spanish word for dimples. NT

06/02/10 07:02 PM

06/02/10 07:04 PM

I love this board! NT

06/02/10 07:06 PM

There is no board here (except perhaps Big Brother) that flames the passions of opinions like the Bach boards. NT

06/02/10 07:08 PM

Romance and passion!!! goes together! BTW...How are the newlyweds sassy? NT

06/02/10 07:10 PM

They are doing great, dlee. And yours? NT

06/03/10 04:24 AM

Wedding is getting close. 2 more months. Daughter has turned into Bridzilla! lol NT

06/03/10 04:53 AM

I'm going to have to learn spanish before next season! lol NT

06/02/10 07:06 PM

You are good, IsItReal. Good job.. NT

06/02/10 07:05 PM

06/02/10 07:06 PM

We want more...mas! NT

06/02/10 07:09 PM

I invit you to watch rtvzone.com and this week show :) NT

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07/13/11 05:57 PM

It was very interesting to hear that...

07/14/11 11:03 AM

I watched it....great show. I noticed that the general concenses(sp?) is that JP

07/13/11 08:08 PM

and they think that the one who really "want it" (emotionally involved) is JP :)

07/14/11 04:32 AM

You mention being wrong about Brad and Chantal....I too saw something between the two of them

07/15/11 04:35 PM

I think that because she was so different from the girls he dated and because she was a mom made them favor her...

07/15/11 05:21 PM

I don't doubt that JP really wants Ashley. The question is does Ashley

07/14/11 09:11 AM

That is a valid point....but isn't JP the only one to get two one on one dates?

07/15/11 04:58 PM

The lead does not choose who goes on which date, despite what they say on the show. The producers ask for their list of people

07/14/11 12:01 PM

I understand that, it is why I questioned it. My thinking was that the

07/14/11 05:44 PM

Just remember that ali got a 1:1 with roberto late as well! Her answer was that she always knew that Roberto will remain in the journey...

07/15/11 03:38 AM

that is actually an excellent observation!! NT

07/14/11 07:55 PM

bear with me but I heard that...

07/14/11 06:17 PM

her mention that she was surprised about the overnight date with ben is an example NT

07/14/11 12:16 PM

Ben wheeled his seat case in behind him. There was no rose on this date, so there

07/14/11 12:29 PM

Or -- they are told to bring certain things along on the date. NT

07/14/11 03:43 PM

or they know at one time during the season one of them will get an overnight 1 week prior the hometown but do not know when and who...

07/14/11 06:20 PM

Ashley stated that they get time to freshen up and change back at the hotel before dinner. NT

07/14/11 07:57 PM

but we never see or know that the guy meet the others in the middle of the date to change himself. not sure it is true here NT

07/15/11 03:43 AM

the producers get them a hotel room where they can change. This was stated

07/15/11 04:49 AM

I think the producers say -- for your date tomorrow bring something outdoorsy, something for dinner, a swimsuit and something to sleep in

07/15/11 03:06 PM

so that would mean that all the 1:1 dates the guys took a small luggage with them and...

07/15/11 04:58 AM

all I know is what the people who have been through it have said and No

07/15/11 05:02 AM

He said that he didn't know..

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07/14/11 01:00 PM

Maybe a staff member goes and gets the stuff and brings it to them. NT

07/14/11 03:43 PM

I actually agree with this....it makes more sense. NT

07/14/11 07:58 PM

Their contract is for one year.......they say what Fleiss wants them to say. Big penalities in they don't follow rules. NT

07/14/11 01:53 PM

so little response... LOL NT

07/14/11 01:13 PM

the coin toss was on week 2 when she thought only but Bentley!

07/14/11 10:40 AM

His idea was to toss a coin for a kiss. It wasn't his idea to toss a coin for a date. NT

07/14/11 05:50 PM

You could see her smile at some of the things Ben said. I also think some editing could have been done.

07/14/11 03:13 PM

someone in another forum broke down the date scene. That was done on

07/14/11 08:00 PM

I like JP and Ben, and I have no doubt that she wants to meet Jp's family, however

07/14/11 12:24 PM

ITA with you that she likes them both. But does she LOVE them both and want a ring from both? NT

07/14/11 03:45 PM

That's a good question. We've seen and heard Ashley talk about

07/14/11 05:59 PM

I might even make my guy suffer through it, so I don't have to wait

07/14/11 08:02 PM

I know....I know....Monday can't get here soon enough. LOL NT

07/14/11 08:01 PM

JP's letter to Ashley.. Did he already know he was F1?

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07/31/11 12:34 PM

I think he hoped and felt in his heart it was him. Remember when he told his mom she didn't have a relationship with any of the other guys like

07/31/11 02:07 PM

Bentley was Ashley's first choice

08/01/11 02:40 AM

is this the new jokers? NT

08/01/11 08:23 AM

LOL, r2r. I've wondered. NT

08/01/11 09:15 AM

He's thinking positively ...

07/31/11 08:53 PM

He always said "This is the way it should be" :) Feelings are a very strong thing

08/01/11 08:39 AM

we can only assume but...

07/31/11 02:18 PM

Did anyone notice what Ashley said to JP when they first walked in the Fantasy Suite?

08/01/11 02:14 PM

He was smiling when he arrived at the FRC

07/31/11 09:01 PM

Wonder what Ben's gift will be. We haven't seen that. NT

07/31/11 05:49 PM

Why do you say he has a gift. I only really came to spoiler today and didn't go back and read very much, did I miss something? NT

07/31/11 05:56 PM

Normally at each final date, each F1 and F2 give a gift that they supposely did like a love scrapbook. JP made one for Ahsh:) NT

07/31/11 09:21 PM

Roberto gave ali a picture of the heart island and a I love you printed on the sand right? forgot.... NT

07/31/11 10:19 PM

Or . . . They're still telling her to try and make people think it might be Ben. So she looked at him while she talked and not JP. They must

07/31/11 05:48 PM

"Baby" stuck out for me, too. NT

07/31/11 02:25 PM

Your points on the FD were spot on... and here's to us well wishers :D NT

07/31/11 02:24 PM

Or maybe he will tell us.... NT

07/31/11 02:08 PM