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KaySue
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I COMPLETELY agree. took the words out of my mouth. Some additionally thoughts:
09/10/11 10:54 PM




If Rachel takes Adam, I think Adam would definitely have Shelly, I don't think shelly will vote with jordan and jeff, I think she votes against rach no matter what. She plays VERY personally, and Rachels message to her totally offended her, you could tell. Also, one worrying factor, Shelly Dani and Kalia would be gossiping like crazy about Rachel, and Shelly can be VERY convincing in getting her way. I think people over estimate how much she wants to get back in good with JJ, and I don't think voting against rachel would really have any impact on JJS relationship. Also, do people remember Shelly? She might like JJ, but she is not their puppet, there is a difference.

I do think Rachel would get Kalia and Dani aginst Adam, who both will be fueling each others fire about Adams shitty game play in Jury house...and I think their disdain for Rachel will dissapate after being away from her for a few weeks...haha. However, Shelly's dislike of Rachel could really bite Rach in the ass....because Shelly could potentially get Dani and Kalia to vote against Rachel even if it is for Adam, however I don't necessarily think this would happen. Additionally, Adam could win them over depending on how well he does in the final questions, and how poorly Rachel does (I don't think Rachel will do well being put in front of the firing squad, she never has).

Also, I think Jeff will vote for Rachel no matter what....although he likes adam, after listening to Dani and Kalia vent about him, and hearing Jordan and Brendon's pleas, I think he will end up voting for her in the end.

In conclusion, I think she has a great chance against Adam, however it REALLY depends on the mood of the Jury, and who is the bigger target for trash talking (game play or personality).

I do think she will lose if Porsh wins P3. I believe Porsh will take Rachel no matter what, especially after their little celebration in the kitchen. If she didn't, there is no way she would get Rachel or Brendons vote after that kind act/lie. And I think Adam, who is the deciding vote in this senario, would vote for P is she won P3 (he has said this now to both Prsh and Rach, respectable....but geez adam, some game play is in order to make at least $50K...you big dummy!!!! Who in their right mind would take you if they know they have your vote if they win, and you are the deciding vote.)

So in the end, I think Rachel has to win P3 in order to win. I used to thnk she would have a better chance if she took Adam....but from the sounds of it, she isn't, and Adam just told her he would vote for her if she wins P3, so really no incentive to take him?!?! Now, maybe taking Adam is the more risky choice.....changes day by day....haha.

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* Why Rachel Won't Win (long)
markthespot808
09/10/11 12:35 PM
xx * Just plain and simple, Rachel is going to win BB 13! NT
SizzleNC
09/11/11 08:49 PM
xx * You have articulated most of what I've been thinking concerning possible outcomes; however, I really don't think that
Caramel
09/11/11 12:59 AM
xx * I COMPLETELY agree. took the words out of my mouth. Some additionally thoughts:
KaySue
09/10/11 10:54 PM
xx * You make a very compelling argument for sending Adam off to be a sure vote!
Caramel
09/11/11 01:26 AM
xx * She has to win Part 3 of the HoH first, which I'm sure she will. But if she doesn't she will lose. I made this thread before anyone knew who won Pt. 2
markthespot808
09/11/11 01:14 PM
xx * Well said. Here's where I'm at: 99.99999% sure A gives R her 4th vote if she wins part 3. 80% confident R wins vs A. 55% R wins vs P if P wins P3 NT
shade
09/10/11 11:45 PM
xx * I agree with you, especially when he said this morning that he will vote for whoever wind final HOH, Plus he told Rachel..........
SizzleNC
09/11/11 10:50 AM
xx * IA. This won't be the first time someone loses because of bad GB messages, and won't be the last. NT
Eshen33
09/10/11 09:25 PM
xx * Very well thought out post. Thanks. I am really routing for Rachel to win. Her best bet, IMO, will be to take Adam. Dani or Kalia might vote
EDLuvsJen
09/10/11 06:50 PM
xx * Rach is good either way. The ONLY thing that could screw her up is her mouth. If she says something really stupid to jury it could cost her. NT
bbfan29
09/10/11 03:51 PM
xx * Don't think Rachel should leave her fate in the hands of four girls who trashed her for hours every day last month. I trust Adam far more to vote on
shade
09/10/11 03:17 PM
xx * No one on the Jury is going to consider Rachel getting rid of Keith and Dominic as big moves; getting rid of Dominic was actually a little
markthespot808
09/10/11 03:48 PM
xx * The newbies had an 8-5 advantage. Keith & Dominic were their leaders and strongest competitors, so getting them out and flipping the numbers was big
shade
09/12/11 05:16 AM
xx * i think R wins if she gets there, heres why.....
CheeseFries
09/10/11 12:43 PM
xx * IA and I hope this is the way it goes but there is still the chance that she'll lose & if she does I think it'll be for one of the reasons I listed NT
markthespot808
09/10/11 12:48 PM
xx * i think if Rachel is in the final 2 with adam, she'll get Porsche and Dani's vote. Dani LOATHES Adam. NT
coolkidposer
09/10/11 12:38 PM
xx * I'm concerned about Rachel's chances despite what most others think. NT
jovoh
09/10/11 12:38 PM

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