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Louise46
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Shelly beginning to end... Part II
09/14/11 01:01 PM




Another earlier incident was Dominic. Well, Dominic trusted Shelly. Had he not been threatening Shelly’s alliance, she may not have said anything to anyone. C’mon, Shelly didn’t hate Dominic, but he was laying out the plan to oust the vets (her alliance) and his plan included Dani on his team. She had to warn them. Wouldn’t you warn your camp if you saw a band of thieves heading their way? Youtube episode 9, part 4 @ 1 min and 23 sec, Dom was talking game with Shelly, even then I think she had plans that Jeff had to go because she wanted F2 with Jordan but it was still too soon! In her DR @ 2 min 33 sec. Dom is pouring his heart out to me and as he pours out, he’s talking about the people I trust, for sure, most in this game, Jeff & Jordan. If he is coming after Jeff and Jordan, then that’s not good for me.’ Now granted, when Shelly re-told the story, she didn’t give a word for word run down but she told the important parts, she wasn’t lying about that!

This brings us to the most infamous incident… The supposed lie about the F3 deal with Rachel & Brendon. Brendon was on the block (the first time) against Jordan. Flashback Aug. 3 9:43am Cam 3. Rachel & Brendon approach Shelly about a vote. Shelly asks...'Would you consider taking me to F3?' Rachel & Brendon... ‘Absolutely!’ Shelly was totally mind screwing them. They were so excited! They thought if they had Shelly, she could get Adam. They spilled A LOT of stuff to Shelly. They poured their hearts out. It was Amazing! They were giving all the pro's to keep Brendon over Jordan. They gave game tips, they kind of trash talked Jeff a bit, told Shelly that no one will win against Jordan, etc.

Shelly says they make a good argument. She said that she can see that it would be a good move for her game but that voting out Jordan would be a HUGE game changer. She said that she really has to have some conversations and think things over. Basically giving them hope without EVER committing to anything! But you know she filed this information that she got for future use! She never intended to finalize the deal and never said she was voting out Jordan! Shelly voted with her alliance, Jeff & Adam and Brendon was evicted. Seriously, by now you should know Shelly and have her game pretty much figured out. She has to give a little to take a lot. It’s all in the wording. She told us that Jeff & Jordan were the people she trusted most in the game, you honestly think she ever had any intention of voting Jordan out? No Way! The ONLY part of this incident that was shown on the show was ‘Would you consider taking me to F3?’ I wish they had shown the whole conversation!

Now Kalia is the HoH. Kalia brought Shelly up to the HoH room to see where she was at. Youtube episode 4, part 4 @ 20 sec; She told Shelly she would adore playing the game with her. Shelly asked ‘do you see any possibility of you, Daniele and I trying to make a stand to the end together? ‘Then in her DR (same episode, part 4 @ 1 min 14 sec) Shelly said, ‘I have no intention of going to the F3 with Dani and Kalia. I absolutely would like to go and compete with Jeff & Jordan. But I think I would be remiss not to make sure I had things on the other side.’ Shelly is playing the game folks!

Flashback Aug 5, 8:53pm Cam 4 (it first shows Kalia but changes) The Have-Have Not comp was the mixology. Jeff, Jordan, Shelly & Rachel lost. Kalia put up Rachel and Jeff. Jeff & Jordan were in the have-have not talking. Later, Shelly walks in. I am not going to write it word for word but the jest is, they were questioning Shelly asking if she was with them. Shelly got defensive. Jeff asked if she threw the comp because she was scared of Dani. Shelly said she thought he said candy apples not canned yams. Jeff said they were putting things together and they can’t trust anybody. Shelly ‘OMG’ as she starts to walk out. Jeff stops her and said he just wants to make sure everyone is on the same page and Shelly said she has been on the same page and if the page changes to let her know.

Flashback Aug 5 9:04pm Cams 3 & 4: Jordan finds Shelly sitting in the purple room alone. Shelly is hurt because Jeff had the audacity to ask if she threw the Have-Have Not Competition. She reminded Jordan that from the beginning she had told them she was the Trojan Horse that infiltrated the other sides of the house for information, Jordan confirms. Shelly starts to cry. Jordan leaves and tells Jeff that Shelly is crying and he needs to go talk to her. Shelly reminded Jeff that from the beginning she told them she was playing the Trojan Horse AND she reminded him that they were going to control both sides of the house to clear the way for them in the middle. She told Jeff that she played the other side when she needed too and had to tell them ‘I’m with you guys’. Jeff confirmed this.

Did they show this on the TV show? NO! I re-watched all the episodes it didn’t show that incident at all! This was a very HUGE moment, why didn’t they show that? JMO But I think right here is when Shelly started to get frustrated and disillusioned with Jeff.

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* Shelly Beginning to end... Part I
Louise46
09/14/11 12:55 PM
xx * Setting a record straight here...
Louise46
09/21/11 10:25 AM
xx * Actually, Kalia/Porsche said "Falling down the stairs could be a form of birth control" and all four of them laughed about it. The issue is not
SCDrMom
09/24/11 07:59 AM
xx * People are totally not understanding my point of the post....
Louise46
09/27/11 06:24 AM
xx * Louise, I completely understand what you are trying to say, but it is your defense of Shelly that I believe that people are taking issue with. This is
SCDrMom
09/27/11 09:27 AM
xx * For Shelly, it all comes down to guilt by association, her decision to hang with the mean girls.
ashergold
09/27/11 10:12 AM
xx * Sigh...Nevermind SMH NT
Louise46
09/27/11 11:15 AM
xx * See, I really need the flashback date and time. People wanna say it happened but until I have proof, it was cam 5! 2 much made up stuff this year NT
Louise46
09/25/11 05:32 PM
xx * 8/21 7:30-8:05pm camera 4 live feeds Shelly
ashergold
09/25/11 10:55 PM
xx * See as I said in the post 'Setting a record straight here'
Louise46
09/26/11 06:53 PM
xx * Further explanation live feed 8/21 response shelly by conversation-Louise
ashergold
09/26/11 11:43 PM
xx * Nevermind NT
Louise46
09/27/11 10:24 AM
xx * Louise, I don't think there is a person on here that would agree that what was done to Shelly and her family is right. I personally contacted FB &
SCDrMom
09/27/11 04:26 PM
xx * Louise, I definitely do not want to belabor this point any longer than it has to. However, I just want to say a few more things and be done:
SCDrMom
09/26/11 08:33 PM
xx * Re: Offensive conversation-shelly, Porsche, kahlia, etc. 8/21-7:37pm lvfeeds-SCDrMom,Louise
ashergold
09/26/11 10:46 PM
xx * Welcome to Jokers, ashergold. I am so glad to see a "newbie" step
LibraLady
09/26/11 08:18 AM
xx * Awesome summation....and your final line was priceless...LOL NT
SCDrMom
09/26/11 08:13 AM
xx * Not made up at all FB 8/21 7:37pm Cam 4, Kalia, Dani, Porsche & Shelly all talking and laughing and having a good old time joking about it. Again,
SCDrMom
09/25/11 09:30 PM
xx * Great assessment Louise, I agree with everything you say about Shelly, and its one of the reasons I liked her as a player. But I do disagree with..
ThoughtCriminal
09/18/11 10:14 PM
xx * My response is in bold
Louise46
09/22/11 07:57 AM
xx * Well, he "kept them safe" long enough, he had fulfilled his role, and then it was time for him to go. He was more of a threat than an asset then. NT
Ephandis
09/21/11 05:48 PM
xx * All is fair in love and war... LOL NT
Louise46
09/22/11 07:58 AM
xx * Yep! You don't get points for "being true to your BFFs" if you still get voted out before F2. The name of the game is "don't get evicted". NT
Ephandis
09/23/11 10:44 PM
xx * Very very well said! Thanks for taking the time to share it! NT
bbwarrior
09/20/11 02:36 PM
xx * One other thing I have to say, When Shelly said she heard Jordan and Rachel calling her a bitch, that was NOT true, Shelly was spying and listnening
mango
09/18/11 09:00 PM
xx * She obviously didn't hear it correctly and truly felt it was about her, hence, the hurt feelings. Do you have a FB date and time? TIA. NT
Louise46
09/19/11 07:41 AM
xx * Louise, I have it somewhere, will check & post, but look down...Shelly tweeted about your post on here! She loved it!!!!!! NT
SCDrMom
09/19/11 11:15 AM
xx * AND Shelly is referring others to this post to defend herself. PPL are really mean-twitter haters now. NT
archer
09/20/11 08:33 PM
xx * These haters are unbelieveable. Everyone else has let it go, why can't they? NT
Louise46
09/21/11 06:10 AM
xx * I see a few problems with this theory, Jeff was the only competitor of the 4 that could win physical comps, that is why they should have protected him
mango
09/18/11 08:48 PM
xx * Actually, I don't think Shelly was going to vote for Dani to stay
Louise46
09/19/11 05:20 PM
xx * Thanks to whomever linked to this for Shelly to read on her Twitter, maybe it will bring Shelly to start posting on JU! Shelly, you have lots of fans
AwfuLeeHandsome
09/18/11 07:48 PM
xx * Yep, Grod-dora's Box is what killed Shelly's game, not anything Shelly did. A good BB player knows you have to play Production and America too. NT
Ephandis
09/19/11 01:21 PM
xx * Just wanted to let you know....Shelly herself replied....Tweet inside:
SCDrMom
09/18/11 08:26 PM
xx * Thanks Louise for the best thread I've read all summer. I think you are spot on about Shelly. Despite her vote for Rachel, Shelly is still my fav NT
SunnyInAZ
09/16/11 02:54 PM
xx * Geez, Louise. That was thorough.
Mikentosh
09/16/11 02:42 PM
xx * My responses are in bold...
Louise46
09/19/11 08:46 PM
xx * I’ll only respiond to the one reply. You restated your opinions well enough
Mikentosh
09/20/11 06:31 AM
xx * Ugh no, Shelly wasn't the cause of her demise. AG and a mad dash to save Jordan after her gameplay failed took out Shelly. NT
AwfuLeeHandsome
09/18/11 07:41 PM
xx * What makes you so sure Jordan would have left instead of Rachel? NT
ScottySayz
09/18/11 08:30 PM
xx * That POV was Rachel's to lose, and sure enough, she won it! And saved Coattails Jordan in the process. NT
Ephandis
09/19/11 01:22 PM
xx * oh! Can't wait to read this :) Thanks! I had a couple issues with Shelly, but I'm so glad someone showed up to show what BB is really about for me. NT
liquid8d
09/14/11 11:11 PM
xx * wow. 9 parts? U took in-depth seriously. I was a Shelly fan. The turning point for me was not the flip
archer
09/14/11 05:04 PM
xx * archer I also remember that and was really surprised that she felt it was her place to suggest/imply that NT
MsB
09/14/11 06:01 PM
xx * OK So I am not able to find this in flashbacks, do you know when this happened? I do remember a talk
Louise46
09/14/11 05:58 PM
xx * Was this the convo in flashbacks Aug 17 @ 10:32am? NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:36 PM
xx * It wasn't this one... NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:53 PM
xx * BTW... outstanding postS... NT
archer
09/14/11 05:17 PM
xx * I will have to re-watch that talk and get back to you. NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:12 PM
xx * TY... It did take me quite a long time but I poured over Flashbacks and episodes. It's like watching the whole season twice! LOL Kinda fun! NT
Louise46
09/14/11 04:41 PM
xx * Great analysis, Louise. It obviously took a lot of time and a lot of thought to put this together. I really enjoyed it. NT
cantgetenough
09/14/11 04:11 PM
xx * Wow, that was long, but it was a GREAT read. I wish people would take off their Jeff-n-Jordan-colored glasses and look at the situation clearly. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 03:40 PM
xx * I thought Shelly's elitist game of Hubris was gawdawful & Jeff & Jordan were the only ones snowed by it! NT
BestBBEver
09/15/11 02:15 PM
xx * Hmmm, I didn't think that Shelly came off elitist at all, quite the contrary. Very informal, homespun and folksy. And hubris? Not a word I'd pick. NT
Ephandis
09/15/11 10:40 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part IX
Louise46
09/14/11 01:20 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VIII
Louise46
09/14/11 01:13 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VII
Louise46
09/14/11 01:11 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VI
Louise46
09/14/11 01:09 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part V
Louise46
09/14/11 01:07 PM
xx * Shelly, Beginnging to End Part IV
Louise46
09/14/11 01:05 PM
xx * Shelly beginning to end Part III
Louise46
09/14/11 01:04 PM
xx * Shelly beginning to end... Part II
Louise46
09/14/11 01:01 PM
xx * Shelly is a con-artist who thought she had the game "in the bag" the minute she walked in the house & she was WRONG. She played an obvi con-artist
BestBBEver
09/15/11 02:14 PM
xx * Con-Artist? Hubris? Elitist? LMAO Shelly? Those are words I might use for Brendon & Rachel. Maybe even Jeff and Jordan but NOT Shelly! ROTFLMAO NT
Louise46
09/16/11 06:45 AM
xx * Again, Shelly wasn't elitist, or really overconfident, which is what I think you really mean to say when you say elitist. Shelly...
Ephandis
09/15/11 10:46 PM
xx * I agree...
phygit
09/18/11 08:33 AM
xx * Talk to me about Shelly in the BB house contrasted with Shelly in the jury house if you see any differences.
Mikentosh
09/16/11 02:33 PM
xx * My responses are in bold...
Louise46
09/16/11 09:23 PM
xx * I tend to agree with Louise on this, and the way Jeff has backpedaled in subsequent interviews reinforces this view. He seems to get it now. NT
Ephandis
09/16/11 10:58 PM
xx * Jeff's interviews ONLY reinforce him trying to HELP Shelly with the Nutsos that went after her. NOT a JJ fan either NT
Emijo
09/18/11 10:45 PM
xx * J & J & S are friends! I <3 How they can let it go. Just game! J & J were mortified by the threats against S & her fam...genuinely cared. NT
Louise46
09/20/11 12:41 PM

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