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Louise46
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Shelly Beginning to End Part IX
09/14/11 01:20 PM




Anyhoo, I felt really bad for Jordan. It was sad. She was so hurt. But when she started in like Shelly had been playing her all summer, that was just NOT TRUE! I truly believe that Shelly’s plan all along was F2 with Jordan. Shelly was very upset after Jeff left too, especially after Joran couldn’t even look at her. She had a pretty good crying spell. Porsche tried her best to pump her up. So, Jordan, Rachel and Adam were in the purple room. Jordan was going on and on about how stupid she felt and how Shelly was probably in the DR saying Ha Ha! (This was put into her head by Rachel) Shelly was listening outside and wanted to let her know that wasn’t true. Shelly, walked in calm and said ‘If that’s what you think then you don’t know me very well.’ Jordan said ‘No, I don’t think I do.’ Shelly says, ‘Well, Jordan, once you calm down, we can talk.’ And Jordan got snotty, ‘I don’t want to talk to you.’ Shelly says, ‘I’m not playing Jeff’s game so you’re pissed. I have to try and win for my family too.’ Jordan said ‘I didn’t say you were playing Jeff’s game’ Shelly says, ‘Jeff did, and you know what, as bad as I feel for you, I feel like ***** too!’ Shelly was pointing her finger. She wasn’t necessarily pointing in Jordan’s face in a threatening manner, but more like she was trying to make a point. Of course Jordan went a little crazy talking about the phone call, etc.

So, after things have had a chance to calm down, Shelly and Jordan finally go into the Have-Not room to talk. You can flashback to Aug 28, 1:30am cams 3 & 4. Jordan starts out by apologizing to Shelly for her outburst. Shelly tells her she had every reason to be upset. Jordan says that from week one, she thought of Shelly as someone she could 100% trust. She said after Dani, during their talk, had offered them everything under sun, they turned the deal down to go with Shelly and Adam. Jordan said Jeff said we have built up this team and given them motivational speeches (actually it was more like dictating orders and threats, but OK). Jordan was upset because she thinks Jeff walked out the door thinking Adam was the one who didn’t vote for him to stay. ( Adam told him he did vote for him to stay, so he knew.) Jordan was telling Shelly that she and Jeff had her back 100%. (That was a LIE, they were forever talking about cutting both her and Adam). Jordan tells Shelly that if she had just been honest and told them that she wanted to go with that side, they wouldn’t have been mad. (Are you kidding me? LMAO Please!) She said that she and Jeff, after the live show, was going to pull her off and have a talk with her, etc. (No, you had already made up your minds even before the crap started before the live show that Shelly was OUT!) She told Shelly that she felt like Shelly just took that knife and stabbed her in the back when she always had felt very highly of her as somebody she felt normal and comfortable with. She felt like Shelly was her mom away from home. Then she said that after all the things she talked with her about, that she was going back upstairs, etc. (Thinking that Shelly was telling everyone everything she said.) Shelly told her that she will see that is not true. (It wasn’t true, Shelly may have bashed Rachel and other HG’s but she didn’t bash Jordan.)

Shelly said she wanted to address a couple things that she heard Jordan say. One is that she (Jordan) said she can’t wait to watch the show because thought Shelly was laughing at her in her DR’s. Shelly said you will see there is not one second, not one moment, not one word, not one comment, not one slight, not one zing, not one make fun of, not one speak against her or Jeff. She said you will see that she put them on a pedestal (TRUE DAT!) from day one and even before she came in the house. She said she was asked several times who her heroes were in the game and she said Jeff & Jordan. She said that Jordan will see that she was not the manipulator at all… (Well, LOL at least not like Jordan thinks anyway… Shelly, you were a master manipulator! )

Shelly tells Jordan that she done nothing but hold her in the highest regard. She told her that she never called her a bitch like she has heard over the last two days. She told Jordan that she went with a person (Rachel) who was part of the plan 100%. Who was as much involved as I was until she saw what was going down and decided that she could play hero. (Shelly nailed that one on the head.) I don’t hold her responsible for that, I made my own choice, they can do whatever they want, and that’s their choice in this game. Shelly told Jordan that she came to her and told her she was scared because she and Rachel talked and that she said she had a F3 deal with them and that she thought she (Rachel) could beat her in the end. (Feeds cut of course.)

Shelly tells Jordan that when she came into the house, she had an alliance of Tony, Josie, his parents and her parents to get as close to something as she could. She said that in the last week, it became apparent to her that she was pushing Jeff & Jordan ahead of her own family because she respected them and cared about them that much. (This was true). She said Dani didn’t come to her, not once. (Oh Shelly! Of all the things to lie about, you lie about that… I would have told her the truth there! LMAO The truth would have been so much better!) She said that Adam was involved in the discussions the whole time.

Shelly told Jordan that she had heard people say, and even Jeff, that she couldn’t win anything. She said she knew coming in that she wasn’t going to be able to win a lot of the challenges, she said there were reasons and that was just her. (True, she does have that nasty back injury.) She said she planned to play a different way to compensate… She planned to play both socially and strategically and make moves. Shelly went on to say, basically, that Jeff controlled the whole game and had it planned right down to who was F5, F4 & F3. She knew she didn’t stand a chance and went outside the box. She said, and truthfully so, that she tortured over the decision (also true). But at the end of the game, after everything is said and done, that what matters most is having Jeff and Jordan as friends.

Again, Jordan said why didn’t you just come to me and tell me that you felt like you don’t have a chance, etc… (Duh, Jordan! She did! You told her to do what she felt was best for her game!) Shelly said she isn’t happy being where she is but she doesn’t get why after she (Shelly) stabbed her in the back and it was so bad, why she went with someone (Rachel) who has glued herself to her side (Jordan’s) after stabbing her in the back countless times for the whole world to see! (This is 100% a true statement! Rachel did stab Jeff and Jordan in the back a hellofa lot more than Shelly EVER did.)

The rest is neither here nor there. Anything Shelly does at this point is to try and get her to the end. That Pandora’s Box screwed her big time and then she was to the mercy of Rachel and Jordan. I could make this 20 pages long. She was evicted at F5 which is probably where she would have finished on the otherside too! I am proud of Shelly for standing up to Jeff, both in the game AND at the jury house.

There is one more area I would like to touch on before closing… There were numerous posts about Shelly stating that she wished Rachel would have a miscarriage or have an abortion. That was 100% Porsche and Adam. Shelly was sitting there at the time, but the discussion was between Porsche and Adam PERIOD.

So, in closing, the whole reason I took this project on is because I was sick and tired of the bum rap she Shelly was getting and I was absolutely disgusted that people would threaten to kill and rape and 8 year old little girl just because her mother played a game of Big Brother and crossed the fan favorites. Up until the point that she finally woke up, she was all about getting Jeff and Jordan to the end. She remained loyal. Shelly had a lot of spunk and attitude in DR’s there toward the end and I wonder just how much of her DR’s had been cut. She seemed more natural than Rachel and Porsches rehearsed and fake DR’s! Shelly played a really good game. She worked her tail off. Her biggest roadblock was Rachel.

Speaking of Rachel… Oh, nevermind, All I have to say now is GO PORSCHE! Adam doesn’t deserve it and Rachel; I just can’t root for her. I tried but she just makes me want to puke!


Edited by Louise46 (09/14/11 01:21 PM)

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* Shelly Beginning to end... Part I
Louise46
09/14/11 12:55 PM
xx * Setting a record straight here...
Louise46
09/21/11 10:25 AM
xx * Actually, Kalia/Porsche said "Falling down the stairs could be a form of birth control" and all four of them laughed about it. The issue is not
SCDrMom
09/24/11 07:59 AM
xx * People are totally not understanding my point of the post....
Louise46
09/27/11 06:24 AM
xx * Louise, I completely understand what you are trying to say, but it is your defense of Shelly that I believe that people are taking issue with. This is
SCDrMom
09/27/11 09:27 AM
xx * For Shelly, it all comes down to guilt by association, her decision to hang with the mean girls.
ashergold
09/27/11 10:12 AM
xx * Sigh...Nevermind SMH NT
Louise46
09/27/11 11:15 AM
xx * See, I really need the flashback date and time. People wanna say it happened but until I have proof, it was cam 5! 2 much made up stuff this year NT
Louise46
09/25/11 05:32 PM
xx * 8/21 7:30-8:05pm camera 4 live feeds Shelly
ashergold
09/25/11 10:55 PM
xx * See as I said in the post 'Setting a record straight here'
Louise46
09/26/11 06:53 PM
xx * Further explanation live feed 8/21 response shelly by conversation-Louise
ashergold
09/26/11 11:43 PM
xx * Nevermind NT
Louise46
09/27/11 10:24 AM
xx * Louise, I don't think there is a person on here that would agree that what was done to Shelly and her family is right. I personally contacted FB &
SCDrMom
09/27/11 04:26 PM
xx * Louise, I definitely do not want to belabor this point any longer than it has to. However, I just want to say a few more things and be done:
SCDrMom
09/26/11 08:33 PM
xx * Re: Offensive conversation-shelly, Porsche, kahlia, etc. 8/21-7:37pm lvfeeds-SCDrMom,Louise
ashergold
09/26/11 10:46 PM
xx * Welcome to Jokers, ashergold. I am so glad to see a "newbie" step
LibraLady
09/26/11 08:18 AM
xx * Awesome summation....and your final line was priceless...LOL NT
SCDrMom
09/26/11 08:13 AM
xx * Not made up at all FB 8/21 7:37pm Cam 4, Kalia, Dani, Porsche & Shelly all talking and laughing and having a good old time joking about it. Again,
SCDrMom
09/25/11 09:30 PM
xx * Great assessment Louise, I agree with everything you say about Shelly, and its one of the reasons I liked her as a player. But I do disagree with..
ThoughtCriminal
09/18/11 10:14 PM
xx * My response is in bold
Louise46
09/22/11 07:57 AM
xx * Well, he "kept them safe" long enough, he had fulfilled his role, and then it was time for him to go. He was more of a threat than an asset then. NT
Ephandis
09/21/11 05:48 PM
xx * All is fair in love and war... LOL NT
Louise46
09/22/11 07:58 AM
xx * Yep! You don't get points for "being true to your BFFs" if you still get voted out before F2. The name of the game is "don't get evicted". NT
Ephandis
09/23/11 10:44 PM
xx * Very very well said! Thanks for taking the time to share it! NT
bbwarrior
09/20/11 02:36 PM
xx * One other thing I have to say, When Shelly said she heard Jordan and Rachel calling her a bitch, that was NOT true, Shelly was spying and listnening
mango
09/18/11 09:00 PM
xx * She obviously didn't hear it correctly and truly felt it was about her, hence, the hurt feelings. Do you have a FB date and time? TIA. NT
Louise46
09/19/11 07:41 AM
xx * Louise, I have it somewhere, will check & post, but look down...Shelly tweeted about your post on here! She loved it!!!!!! NT
SCDrMom
09/19/11 11:15 AM
xx * AND Shelly is referring others to this post to defend herself. PPL are really mean-twitter haters now. NT
archer
09/20/11 08:33 PM
xx * These haters are unbelieveable. Everyone else has let it go, why can't they? NT
Louise46
09/21/11 06:10 AM
xx * I see a few problems with this theory, Jeff was the only competitor of the 4 that could win physical comps, that is why they should have protected him
mango
09/18/11 08:48 PM
xx * Actually, I don't think Shelly was going to vote for Dani to stay
Louise46
09/19/11 05:20 PM
xx * Thanks to whomever linked to this for Shelly to read on her Twitter, maybe it will bring Shelly to start posting on JU! Shelly, you have lots of fans
AwfuLeeHandsome
09/18/11 07:48 PM
xx * Yep, Grod-dora's Box is what killed Shelly's game, not anything Shelly did. A good BB player knows you have to play Production and America too. NT
Ephandis
09/19/11 01:21 PM
xx * Just wanted to let you know....Shelly herself replied....Tweet inside:
SCDrMom
09/18/11 08:26 PM
xx * Thanks Louise for the best thread I've read all summer. I think you are spot on about Shelly. Despite her vote for Rachel, Shelly is still my fav NT
SunnyInAZ
09/16/11 02:54 PM
xx * Geez, Louise. That was thorough.
Mikentosh
09/16/11 02:42 PM
xx * My responses are in bold...
Louise46
09/19/11 08:46 PM
xx * I’ll only respiond to the one reply. You restated your opinions well enough
Mikentosh
09/20/11 06:31 AM
xx * Ugh no, Shelly wasn't the cause of her demise. AG and a mad dash to save Jordan after her gameplay failed took out Shelly. NT
AwfuLeeHandsome
09/18/11 07:41 PM
xx * What makes you so sure Jordan would have left instead of Rachel? NT
ScottySayz
09/18/11 08:30 PM
xx * That POV was Rachel's to lose, and sure enough, she won it! And saved Coattails Jordan in the process. NT
Ephandis
09/19/11 01:22 PM
xx * oh! Can't wait to read this :) Thanks! I had a couple issues with Shelly, but I'm so glad someone showed up to show what BB is really about for me. NT
liquid8d
09/14/11 11:11 PM
xx * wow. 9 parts? U took in-depth seriously. I was a Shelly fan. The turning point for me was not the flip
archer
09/14/11 05:04 PM
xx * archer I also remember that and was really surprised that she felt it was her place to suggest/imply that NT
MsB
09/14/11 06:01 PM
xx * OK So I am not able to find this in flashbacks, do you know when this happened? I do remember a talk
Louise46
09/14/11 05:58 PM
xx * Was this the convo in flashbacks Aug 17 @ 10:32am? NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:36 PM
xx * It wasn't this one... NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:53 PM
xx * BTW... outstanding postS... NT
archer
09/14/11 05:17 PM
xx * I will have to re-watch that talk and get back to you. NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:12 PM
xx * TY... It did take me quite a long time but I poured over Flashbacks and episodes. It's like watching the whole season twice! LOL Kinda fun! NT
Louise46
09/14/11 04:41 PM
xx * Great analysis, Louise. It obviously took a lot of time and a lot of thought to put this together. I really enjoyed it. NT
cantgetenough
09/14/11 04:11 PM
xx * Wow, that was long, but it was a GREAT read. I wish people would take off their Jeff-n-Jordan-colored glasses and look at the situation clearly. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 03:40 PM
xx * I thought Shelly's elitist game of Hubris was gawdawful & Jeff & Jordan were the only ones snowed by it! NT
BestBBEver
09/15/11 02:15 PM
xx * Hmmm, I didn't think that Shelly came off elitist at all, quite the contrary. Very informal, homespun and folksy. And hubris? Not a word I'd pick. NT
Ephandis
09/15/11 10:40 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part IX
Louise46
09/14/11 01:20 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VIII
Louise46
09/14/11 01:13 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VII
Louise46
09/14/11 01:11 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VI
Louise46
09/14/11 01:09 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part V
Louise46
09/14/11 01:07 PM
xx * Shelly, Beginnging to End Part IV
Louise46
09/14/11 01:05 PM
xx * Shelly beginning to end Part III
Louise46
09/14/11 01:04 PM
xx * Shelly beginning to end... Part II
Louise46
09/14/11 01:01 PM
xx * Shelly is a con-artist who thought she had the game "in the bag" the minute she walked in the house & she was WRONG. She played an obvi con-artist
BestBBEver
09/15/11 02:14 PM
xx * Con-Artist? Hubris? Elitist? LMAO Shelly? Those are words I might use for Brendon & Rachel. Maybe even Jeff and Jordan but NOT Shelly! ROTFLMAO NT
Louise46
09/16/11 06:45 AM
xx * Again, Shelly wasn't elitist, or really overconfident, which is what I think you really mean to say when you say elitist. Shelly...
Ephandis
09/15/11 10:46 PM
xx * I agree...
phygit
09/18/11 08:33 AM
xx * Talk to me about Shelly in the BB house contrasted with Shelly in the jury house if you see any differences.
Mikentosh
09/16/11 02:33 PM
xx * My responses are in bold...
Louise46
09/16/11 09:23 PM
xx * I tend to agree with Louise on this, and the way Jeff has backpedaled in subsequent interviews reinforces this view. He seems to get it now. NT
Ephandis
09/16/11 10:58 PM
xx * Jeff's interviews ONLY reinforce him trying to HELP Shelly with the Nutsos that went after her. NOT a JJ fan either NT
Emijo
09/18/11 10:45 PM
xx * J & J & S are friends! I <3 How they can let it go. Just game! J & J were mortified by the threats against S & her fam...genuinely cared. NT
Louise46
09/20/11 12:41 PM

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