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This is a response to: I guess I missed what you were saying. Is it OK for viewers to call her dumb? Viewers can do what they want, but in regards to referencing what Jeff
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Oh yes, we can say relentlessly vicious things about the houseguests, but if THEY do it, they're despicable. NT
09/14/11 06:43 PM







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* I really don't get why Jeff and Jordan are heaped with adoration and praise...
Ephandis
09/12/11 02:11 PM
xx * Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... For me, I like most of the players for different reasons. I like Jeff and Jordan because
EDLuvsJen
09/14/11 12:32 PM
xx * I don't feel I need to justify, defend or explain why I like certain personalities on a tv show that is pure escapism for me. NT
cantgetenough
09/13/11 05:07 PM
xx * I know those who don't like J & J don't listen anyway. NT
BlondeMoment
09/13/11 06:19 PM
xx * There's no law that says you have to. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 05:12 PM
xx * Jeff and Jordon
Grandma3boys
09/13/11 02:59 PM
xx * I don't find Jeff calling Jordan "dumb" respectful or dignified. And "easy on the eyes" cuts no ice with me. You gotta have more than that. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 03:37 PM
xx * ITA NT
1mimi
09/13/11 10:16 PM
xx * He says it with love, not malice. BIG difference, besides she is not the brightest light bulb NT
SizzleGA
09/13/11 06:12 PM
xx * Yeah, "playful insults" are still insults, and I don't find them charming in the least. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 09:45 PM
xx * I love them, it is a part of a good relationship. If Jordan thought Jeff was being mean or hurtful, I do not believe for one second would she ......
SizzleGA
09/13/11 10:17 PM
xx * Jordan has been called dumb her whole life, her "boyfriend" shouldn't go there, even in jest. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 03:43 PM
xx * Oh please, if you can not poke fun at the ones you love it is just crazy.
Jade
09/14/11 04:33 PM
xx * so if jeff says it in a mean spirited way it's ok, but it viewers say it it's the end of the world
Dexter
09/14/11 04:40 PM
xx * What you fail to understand is I have not taken any side either way. I believe it is not my place to judge J&J relationship. For my two cents
Jade
09/14/11 04:51 PM
xx * ok, that had nothing to do with what i posted, but i understand i guess NT
Dexter
09/14/11 05:08 PM
xx * I guess I missed what you were saying. Is it OK for viewers to call her dumb? Viewers can do what they want, but in regards to referencing what Jeff
Jade
09/14/11 05:17 PM
xx * Oh yes, we can say relentlessly vicious things about the houseguests, but if THEY do it, they're despicable. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 06:43 PM
xx * You are just so mean E :-)... NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 08:55 PM
xx * point was this big hoopla made about not calling jordan dumb cause she has a learning disability
Dexter
09/14/11 05:23 PM
xx * I hear ya. I find him very self serving. Poor Jordan. NT
mhg76
09/14/11 05:28 PM
xx * Dont be sorry for Jordan, she is in love with jeff NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 08:57 PM
xx * Hold on, how do you know Jordan has a learning disability?? NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 05:27 PM
xx * she's talked about it before and having to take special ed classes when she was in school as well NT
Dexter
09/14/11 05:32 PM
xx * I did not remember that until just now oops. NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 08:56 PM
xx * So yeah, still think it's acceptable for Jeff to "joke" about Jordan's intelligence? NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 09:09 PM
xx * I have heard her call him stupid more than once too. Most of the time they laugh after they say it each other. NT
BBAnnie
09/16/11 09:14 AM
xx * They even joked about when they have kids, and how they'd probably be pretty, but walk in to walls NT
frustratedposter
09/26/11 09:14 AM
xx * on amazing race when they missed a clue jeff told jordan they were too stupid to have kids
Belle
09/28/11 01:57 PM
xx * Please note, the key word in that sentence is "they" NT
SizzleGA
10/04/11 07:19 AM
xx * If in fact it is true, NO! NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 09:22 PM
xx * You go, Jade! Jordan chest-bumped Russell. I'll go with she can stand up for herself if she doesn't like what's said to her. NT
Mikentosh
09/14/11 04:54 PM
xx * Jade.... you silly ole dummy you *muah* NT
wyndycty
09/14/11 04:35 PM
xx * *muah* Heaven forbid if someone critiqued if we spelled all of this right.
Jade
09/14/11 04:44 PM
xx * agreed watch the whole Joh Gotti sandwich clip she turns her head away...he hurts her feelings NT
rationalinsanity
09/14/11 03:56 PM
xx * I don't think he has. NT
MsB
09/14/11 03:49 PM
xx * yes he has NT
Dexter
09/14/11 04:20 PM
xx * I guess we see it differently. NT
MsB
09/14/11 04:24 PM
xx * see what differently, he flat out said it, i don't know how that can be spun NT
Dexter
09/14/11 04:25 PM
xx * Couples goof on one another. Of course he laughs at some of the things she says, so does she. He doesn't seem mean in his teasing.
MsB
09/14/11 04:42 PM
xx * he wasn't goofing, the hypocrisy of all this truly amazes me NT
Dexter
09/14/11 04:43 PM
xx * He was laughing at what she said. What hypocrisy? NT
MsB
09/14/11 04:47 PM
xx * im talking about when he walked out into the kitchen and started calling jordan stupid to the other hg's
Dexter
09/14/11 04:48 PM
xx * Sorry Gary I don't remember that. I thought you were talking about the John Gotti clip I saw earlier. NT
MsB
09/14/11 04:50 PM
xx * it was after the meeting jordan held that jeff got pissed about NT
Dexter
09/14/11 04:52 PM
xx * Ohhhh OK I thought we were talking about something else. First off I thought he said that to someone else but it wouldn't matter he was still rude.
MsB
09/14/11 04:58 PM
xx * Yay, Ms B gets the guys from South Chicago. I believe Jeff was raised in South Chicago. NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 05:51 PM
xx * my husband is from chicago and would never speak to a woman that way. NT
socal464
09/14/11 05:53 PM
xx * I said South Chicago. Think the Superfans of SNL. There are guys like that on the south side.
BBAnnie
09/14/11 05:54 PM
xx * and my thought process would be what, exactly?
socal464
09/14/11 06:13 PM
xx * aren't stereotypes fun? NT
crazyq
09/14/11 06:23 PM
xx * Stereotypes actually suck. lol NT
BBAnnie
09/16/11 09:17 AM
xx * indeed, because im sure all guys from south chicago call their girlfriends stupid
socal464
09/14/11 06:26 PM
xx * I am talking about the loud and brash part of Jeff. The one people here are calling a bully NT
BBAnnie
09/16/11 09:15 AM
xx * They probably do, they are homophobic :-)........ NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 08:53 PM
xx * Some choose to marry those guys, and they slap them upside the head all the time....that is why there is somebody for everybody and
Jade
09/14/11 05:12 PM
xx * he did he said it to the other hg's which makes it worse imo
Dexter
09/14/11 05:01 PM
xx * "Shut up and go eat a sandwich"... "Love" ;). NT
phygit
09/13/11 07:40 PM
xx * That sounds just like my wife, but she would be telling me to cook dinner for her also :-) NT
SizzleGA
09/13/11 08:24 PM
xx * I don't get why this subject is brought up so often. If you don't like the answers
frustratedposter
09/13/11 08:48 PM
xx * Who says I don't like the answers? I'm gathering information, and hopefully, making people think about some things. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 09:44 PM
xx * Definitely makes me think about some things...but not the things you think. NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 07:27 AM
xx * OK Ephandis, just what info have you gleamed from your original post? What are you trying to get us to think about?.................
SizzleGA
09/13/11 10:12 PM
xx * I've learned that "just because" is enough for many, many people. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 10:48 PM
xx * Yey, I am sorry it took you so long to figure that one out. NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 07:12 AM
xx * I gotta say, it's still disappointing. I was hoping that Big Brother fans would favor the best players, not the "best personalities". NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 07:55 AM
xx * The original Big Brother concept which is still being used outside of the US is that this is a social experiment. NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 08:23 AM
xx * This is the main reason why I watch. The competitions and gameplay, for me, are secondary. I like to watch relationships develop
cantgetenough
09/14/11 10:11 AM
xx * Ditto...it's why I get frustrated when you get a mean girls clique. I really disliked Britney last year until Monet left. NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 10:41 AM
xx * I wish we still had that version.. NT
doodles444s
09/14/11 08:27 AM
xx * For real, doodles. I think this is it for me with BB. It just isn't fun anymore.
BBAnnie
09/14/11 09:03 AM
xx * meeeee tooooooo! NT
Bilbo
09/14/11 08:47 AM
xx * Bilbo. both you and Annie will not be able to stay away :-). Especially you, who has been on Jokers from day 1 NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 04:02 PM
xx * Honestly, Sizzle, after seeing the newbie cast I was prepared not to watch this season and then Jeff & Jordan came back... NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 05:52 PM
xx * And next year, as a die hard BB fan you will be back once again NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 09:01 PM
xx * Um doubtful if I don't see a houseguest that interests me in the least. Without vets I would have missed this season. Heck I missed 2-8 NT
BBAnnie
09/16/11 09:16 AM
xx * Well, the experiment shows that "style over substance" rules the day, and superficial traits get you farthest with the public. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 08:26 AM
xx * Did you watch BB2000? NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 09:01 AM
xx * Who's to say what is considered "style" or "substance", especially with the current cast.
doodles444s
09/14/11 08:39 AM
xx * And considering ED and Adam S9 had neither style nor substance... NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 09:05 AM
xx * I have to object, BBAnnie
Mikentosh
09/14/11 03:10 PM
xx * Honestly, I cannot argue as I never watched season 8. In fact, I didn't watch 2 through 8 NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 05:54 PM
xx * Yea. If comparing seasons based on winners.. The more social experiment driven Season 1's Chicken George isn't too bad :) NT
doodles444s
09/14/11 10:24 AM
xx * Except he didn't win. Didn't even make F4. His wife making sure Britney left over George with America's voting really hurt George. NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 10:41 AM
xx * Oh Darn it was Eddy right?.. I always forget that. :) It's been so long. NT
doodles444s
09/14/11 10:53 AM
xx * BB1 is still one of my favorites NT
MsB
09/14/11 08:25 AM
xx * It's my absolute favorite! I loved the social experiment and how the house guests had to work together. NT
BBAnnie
09/14/11 09:04 AM
xx * lol good seeing you sizzle :) who are you rooting for :) NT
Belle
09/14/11 07:13 AM
xx * Rachel, at the beginning of the season I would have bet $1,000 on never wanting her to win. NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 07:24 AM
xx * lol me too sizzle i didn't like her last season i'm rooting for her tonight NT
Belle
09/14/11 07:29 AM
xx * But to be honest, I would not be disappointed if Porsche wins. She has played a good game. NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 07:31 AM
xx * I would be ... I just don't like her NT
Bilbo
09/14/11 07:55 AM
xx * me, either. NT
BlondeMoment
09/14/11 09:37 AM
xx * same here. NT
crazyq
09/14/11 09:42 AM
xx * Porsche is there for her 15 minutes. For me, her 15 minutes are up. Go, Girl, Go Home!!! NT
Mikentosh
09/14/11 03:13 PM
xx * I like Porsche. With her, it's nothing personal. She's just playing a game. I probably wouldn't be besties with Porsche in real life, though. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 03:45 PM
xx * I liked her initially but she lost me with the tainted drinks NT
MsB
09/14/11 04:35 PM
xx * For the 1st time in this whole thread I agree with you Ephandis!! NT
SizzleGA
09/14/11 04:04 PM
xx * I think this calls for a group hug! Let's see if we can get bbwarrior and Mikentosh in on it too. ;) NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 04:30 PM
xx * I'm in, but keep your hands, all of you, up around the shoulders. 8<D NT
Mikentosh
09/14/11 04:40 PM
xx * You do realize I'm an evil succubus, right? I don't play by such rules. >:D NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 05:02 PM
xx * I don't either except for the fact that...
1mimi
09/13/11 01:27 PM
xx * I agree with the person who said people root for the underdogs. I think that's where it all started in their original season. For me,
Kixx
09/13/11 09:25 AM
xx * But if Jeff looked like Adam, would you still want to watch? Would you be as intrigued by him? NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 09:46 AM
xx * No because...
1mimi
09/13/11 06:26 PM
xx * Absolutely. I have rooted for many supposed unattractive people before, even other reality shows. It's actually pretty insulting to think I or others
Kixx
09/13/11 01:46 PM
xx * Well, there are a LOT of "OMG Jeff is SO SEXY!!!!" posts around here. It's easy to think that's the only reason. He comes across very smug to me. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 02:23 PM
xx * Ok...? There are also a lot of OMG Dani looks hot in a bikini. Does that take away legit reasons people root for her? Dani is also pretty smug. Does
Kixx
09/13/11 04:30 PM
xx * For what it's worth, I do judge people because of their decor too. Seriously, folks, red accent walls are SO OVER. And Faux Tuscan? Gag me. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 09:47 PM
xx * How cosmopolitan of you, living in Colorado none the less NT
SizzleGA
09/13/11 10:20 PM
xx * One can be chic anywhere, one does not have to live on the coasts. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 07:58 AM
xx * Excellent post NT
current
09/13/11 09:04 PM
xx * Well put, Kixx. Bravo to you! NT
BBAnnie
09/13/11 07:00 PM
xx * Great post Kixx NT
MsB
09/13/11 06:23 PM
xx * Nice post. NT
BlondeMoment
09/13/11 06:20 PM
xx * he comes across as someone that can laugh at their own mistakes and has a great sense of humor to me. all a matter of perception NT
Belle
09/13/11 02:40 PM
xx * If he were smart, enlightened, and respectful toward others, I would also find those other traits appealing. Too bad he's not. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 08:01 AM
xx * i don't think looks have anything to do with it ED was beloved & i think we can all agree he ain't nothing to look at NT
Belle
09/13/11 01:25 PM
xx * ITA! I think in every season there is usually a stand out "character". If that person happens to be attractive, then the fans are apparently
Kixx
09/13/11 01:47 PM
xx * Here's why (IMO)...
phygit
09/12/11 09:41 PM
xx * ITA. I must add that I didn't watch much of their previous season. I thought I had, but never noticed him. I did see Jor at the end because she won,
Kagome
09/14/11 05:25 PM
xx * Jeff's dialect is south Chicago. I could have disliked Enzo just for how he sounded last season but I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
BBAnnie
09/14/11 06:00 PM
xx * your post made me smile NT
socal464
09/14/11 05:31 PM
xx * I'm so sick to death of being called a Cat Lady because I happen to like Jeff and others don't. And the post gets put
LibraLady
09/13/11 01:52 PM
xx * I don't like the name calling either. And for what it's worth, I like cats, but not Jeff. I think that's an erroneous correlation. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 08:09 AM
xx * Not sure I've ever seen a post from you, so I certainly wasn't calling you names...
phygit
09/13/11 07:32 PM
xx * The "In depth"is too much, especially when the OP keeps going back to every single reply to make the same point again :) NT
fanofdevious
09/13/11 07:29 PM
xx * Nice post Libra and ITA NT
BBAnnie
09/13/11 06:57 PM
xx * ditto NT
MsB
09/14/11 08:12 AM
xx * Feedwatchers know about Jeff's toolish moments though. I honestly think that people's physical attraction to Jeff blinds them to his faults. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 09:06 AM
xx * But in most cases every HG has said something foolish, mean, egotistical, disgusting etc etc... People aren't choosing to ignore it because he's
Kixx
09/13/11 01:57 PM
xx * But Daniele and Porsche are widely reviled around here. Most of the Jeff posts are pro-Jeff. Most of the Daniele and Porsche posts are anti-. NT
Ephandis
09/13/11 02:24 PM
xx * Kaysar made one dumb move after another, and he is also worshiped here, not to mention that many players admired played a bad game.
fanofdevious
09/12/11 04:12 PM
xx * I always thought Kaysar was overrated too. Handsome, certainly, but who cares about that? I don't watch this show for "eye candy". NT
Ephandis
09/12/11 04:57 PM
xx * I tried to remain neutral during the season, but now that it is over, I agree with you
Nimmy
09/12/11 02:36 PM

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