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Ephandis
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 I tend to agree with Louise on this, and the way Jeff has backpedaled in subsequent interviews reinforces this view. He seems to get it now. NT
09/16/11 10:58 PM
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* Shelly Beginning to end... Part I
Louise46
09/14/11 12:55 PM
xx * Setting a record straight here...
Louise46
09/21/11 10:25 AM
xx * Actually, Kalia/Porsche said "Falling down the stairs could be a form of birth control" and all four of them laughed about it. The issue is not
SCDrMom
09/24/11 07:59 AM
xx * People are totally not understanding my point of the post....
Louise46
09/27/11 06:24 AM
xx * Louise, I completely understand what you are trying to say, but it is your defense of Shelly that I believe that people are taking issue with. This is
SCDrMom
09/27/11 09:27 AM
xx * For Shelly, it all comes down to guilt by association, her decision to hang with the mean girls.
ashergold
09/27/11 10:12 AM
xx * Sigh...Nevermind SMH NT
Louise46
09/27/11 11:15 AM
xx * See, I really need the flashback date and time. People wanna say it happened but until I have proof, it was cam 5! 2 much made up stuff this year NT
Louise46
09/25/11 05:32 PM
xx * 8/21 7:30-8:05pm camera 4 live feeds Shelly
ashergold
09/25/11 10:55 PM
xx * See as I said in the post 'Setting a record straight here'
Louise46
09/26/11 06:53 PM
xx * Further explanation live feed 8/21 response shelly by conversation-Louise
ashergold
09/26/11 11:43 PM
xx * Nevermind NT
Louise46
09/27/11 10:24 AM
xx * Louise, I don't think there is a person on here that would agree that what was done to Shelly and her family is right. I personally contacted FB &
SCDrMom
09/27/11 04:26 PM
xx * Louise, I definitely do not want to belabor this point any longer than it has to. However, I just want to say a few more things and be done:
SCDrMom
09/26/11 08:33 PM
xx * Re: Offensive conversation-shelly, Porsche, kahlia, etc. 8/21-7:37pm lvfeeds-SCDrMom,Louise
ashergold
09/26/11 10:46 PM
xx * Welcome to Jokers, ashergold. I am so glad to see a "newbie" step
LibraLady
09/26/11 08:18 AM
xx * Awesome summation....and your final line was priceless...LOL NT
SCDrMom
09/26/11 08:13 AM
xx * Not made up at all FB 8/21 7:37pm Cam 4, Kalia, Dani, Porsche & Shelly all talking and laughing and having a good old time joking about it. Again,
SCDrMom
09/25/11 09:30 PM
xx * Great assessment Louise, I agree with everything you say about Shelly, and its one of the reasons I liked her as a player. But I do disagree with..
ThoughtCriminal
09/18/11 10:14 PM
xx * My response is in bold
Louise46
09/22/11 07:57 AM
xx * Well, he "kept them safe" long enough, he had fulfilled his role, and then it was time for him to go. He was more of a threat than an asset then. NT
Ephandis
09/21/11 05:48 PM
xx * All is fair in love and war... LOL NT
Louise46
09/22/11 07:58 AM
xx * Yep! You don't get points for "being true to your BFFs" if you still get voted out before F2. The name of the game is "don't get evicted". NT
Ephandis
09/23/11 10:44 PM
xx * Very very well said! Thanks for taking the time to share it! NT
bbwarrior
09/20/11 02:36 PM
xx * One other thing I have to say, When Shelly said she heard Jordan and Rachel calling her a bitch, that was NOT true, Shelly was spying and listnening
mango
09/18/11 09:00 PM
xx * She obviously didn't hear it correctly and truly felt it was about her, hence, the hurt feelings. Do you have a FB date and time? TIA. NT
Louise46
09/19/11 07:41 AM
xx * Louise, I have it somewhere, will check & post, but look down...Shelly tweeted about your post on here! She loved it!!!!!! NT
SCDrMom
09/19/11 11:15 AM
xx * AND Shelly is referring others to this post to defend herself. PPL are really mean-twitter haters now. NT
archer
09/20/11 08:33 PM
xx * These haters are unbelieveable. Everyone else has let it go, why can't they? NT
Louise46
09/21/11 06:10 AM
xx * I see a few problems with this theory, Jeff was the only competitor of the 4 that could win physical comps, that is why they should have protected him
mango
09/18/11 08:48 PM
xx * Actually, I don't think Shelly was going to vote for Dani to stay
Louise46
09/19/11 05:20 PM
xx * Thanks to whomever linked to this for Shelly to read on her Twitter, maybe it will bring Shelly to start posting on JU! Shelly, you have lots of fans
AwfuLeeHandsome
09/18/11 07:48 PM
xx * Yep, Grod-dora's Box is what killed Shelly's game, not anything Shelly did. A good BB player knows you have to play Production and America too. NT
Ephandis
09/19/11 01:21 PM
xx * Just wanted to let you know....Shelly herself replied....Tweet inside:
SCDrMom
09/18/11 08:26 PM
xx * Thanks Louise for the best thread I've read all summer. I think you are spot on about Shelly. Despite her vote for Rachel, Shelly is still my fav NT
SunnyInAZ
09/16/11 02:54 PM
xx * Geez, Louise. That was thorough.
Mikentosh
09/16/11 02:42 PM
xx * My responses are in bold...
Louise46
09/19/11 08:46 PM
xx * I’ll only respiond to the one reply. You restated your opinions well enough
Mikentosh
09/20/11 06:31 AM
xx * Ugh no, Shelly wasn't the cause of her demise. AG and a mad dash to save Jordan after her gameplay failed took out Shelly. NT
AwfuLeeHandsome
09/18/11 07:41 PM
xx * What makes you so sure Jordan would have left instead of Rachel? NT
ScottySayz
09/18/11 08:30 PM
xx * That POV was Rachel's to lose, and sure enough, she won it! And saved Coattails Jordan in the process. NT
Ephandis
09/19/11 01:22 PM
xx * oh! Can't wait to read this :) Thanks! I had a couple issues with Shelly, but I'm so glad someone showed up to show what BB is really about for me. NT
liquid8d
09/14/11 11:11 PM
xx * wow. 9 parts? U took in-depth seriously. I was a Shelly fan. The turning point for me was not the flip
archer
09/14/11 05:04 PM
xx * archer I also remember that and was really surprised that she felt it was her place to suggest/imply that NT
MsB
09/14/11 06:01 PM
xx * OK So I am not able to find this in flashbacks, do you know when this happened? I do remember a talk
Louise46
09/14/11 05:58 PM
xx * Was this the convo in flashbacks Aug 17 @ 10:32am? NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:36 PM
xx * It wasn't this one... NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:53 PM
xx * BTW... outstanding postS... NT
archer
09/14/11 05:17 PM
xx * I will have to re-watch that talk and get back to you. NT
Louise46
09/14/11 05:12 PM
xx * TY... It did take me quite a long time but I poured over Flashbacks and episodes. It's like watching the whole season twice! LOL Kinda fun! NT
Louise46
09/14/11 04:41 PM
xx * Great analysis, Louise. It obviously took a lot of time and a lot of thought to put this together. I really enjoyed it. NT
cantgetenough
09/14/11 04:11 PM
xx * Wow, that was long, but it was a GREAT read. I wish people would take off their Jeff-n-Jordan-colored glasses and look at the situation clearly. NT
Ephandis
09/14/11 03:40 PM
xx * I thought Shelly's elitist game of Hubris was gawdawful & Jeff & Jordan were the only ones snowed by it! NT
BestBBEver
09/15/11 02:15 PM
xx * Hmmm, I didn't think that Shelly came off elitist at all, quite the contrary. Very informal, homespun and folksy. And hubris? Not a word I'd pick. NT
Ephandis
09/15/11 10:40 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part IX
Louise46
09/14/11 01:20 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VIII
Louise46
09/14/11 01:13 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VII
Louise46
09/14/11 01:11 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part VI
Louise46
09/14/11 01:09 PM
xx * Shelly Beginning to End Part V
Louise46
09/14/11 01:07 PM
xx * Shelly, Beginnging to End Part IV
Louise46
09/14/11 01:05 PM
xx * Shelly beginning to end Part III
Louise46
09/14/11 01:04 PM
xx * Shelly beginning to end... Part II
Louise46
09/14/11 01:01 PM
xx * Shelly is a con-artist who thought she had the game "in the bag" the minute she walked in the house & she was WRONG. She played an obvi con-artist
BestBBEver
09/15/11 02:14 PM
xx * Con-Artist? Hubris? Elitist? LMAO Shelly? Those are words I might use for Brendon & Rachel. Maybe even Jeff and Jordan but NOT Shelly! ROTFLMAO NT
Louise46
09/16/11 06:45 AM
xx * Again, Shelly wasn't elitist, or really overconfident, which is what I think you really mean to say when you say elitist. Shelly...
Ephandis
09/15/11 10:46 PM
xx * I agree...
phygit
09/18/11 08:33 AM
xx * Talk to me about Shelly in the BB house contrasted with Shelly in the jury house if you see any differences.
Mikentosh
09/16/11 02:33 PM
xx * My responses are in bold...
Louise46
09/16/11 09:23 PM
xx * I tend to agree with Louise on this, and the way Jeff has backpedaled in subsequent interviews reinforces this view. He seems to get it now. NT
Ephandis
09/16/11 10:58 PM
xx * Jeff's interviews ONLY reinforce him trying to HELP Shelly with the Nutsos that went after her. NOT a JJ fan either NT
Emijo
09/18/11 10:45 PM
xx * J & J & S are friends! I <3 How they can let it go. Just game! J & J were mortified by the threats against S & her fam...genuinely cared. NT
Louise46
09/20/11 12:41 PM

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