JokersUpdates.com: BB In-Depth - For Shelly, it all comes down to guilt by association, her decision to hang with the mean girls.

Agree with SCDrMom. That is my point also. Shelly might not have made the comments, but it is guilt by association. When you stand by the taunters and do nothing to defend and laugh with them, you are just as bad. She did not defend Rachel and she did not walk away, she laughed and made funny comments herself such as, and I am paraphrasing, "I won't be able to smoke around her so I'll have to tell her to go over there (somewhere else in the yard) since this is the only place I can smoke, ha ha."
Is that a horrible, horrible thing to say? No, it isn't shocking, it's stupid and immature, but it just is one example of her going along with the mean girls. She also made a comment in the BY during that conversation in response to someone's joke about maybe Rachel was pregnant by PT, ...shelly chimed in later that she always uses the line "I wouldn't touch her with your dick." after someone said that in a joke. Wow, to think that Shelly talks that way out of the house was pretty shocking and says a lot about her character.

Also, another example of her mean girl behavior to Rachel at a different time was on 8/17 at 2:55am ( but double check because I have notes scribbled everywhere and for this note I have 2:55 and 12:55am) when shelly is in the kitchen and makes the comment that she "wouldn't piss in Rachel's mouth..."
Louise, Your support of shelly is great. I am just providing my opinions along with factual evidence gathered from the live feeds and I have not accused her of making abortion comments
anywhere in my posts. So, great she's apologized for some stuff but she hasn't recognized everything she has done. But, again, I decided to post because I was tired of seeing so many posts where people were throwing out info and not backing it up regarding these issues with Shelly so I decided to do it. It seems like it might have been all for naught because your last post was again filled with "hangers and abortions," and that's not the point I am trying to make at all and I don't see those points in the other poster's words either.
What I see is poster's trying to figure out the integrity of Shelly, her psyche or reasons for being in a group that spewed such hate, even if those words didn't come straight from her
mouth. It's hard for a normal person to understand how another normal person with values,
integrity, etc, could sit through a conversation so vile, laugh, etc, and not be repulsed, and Not get up and excuse herself from it. I don't care if it's a game or not.

If you all remember, shelly became so disgusted with the kalia dog conversation, that she finally went inside because she was so pissed off. Why didn't she do the same during this
conversation?

To me, I really wouldn't care if she went away and never apologized for anything. I don't care if Porsche apologizes for blaming shelly for making the comments because I know shelly didn't.I don't care what Porsche does, because porsche hasn't decided as of yet to
use her BB celebrity to do anything important. But shelly has and that bothers me- to become a "figure" for a campaign that tackles anti bullying or a cause or importance that needs people tied to it that have integrity, honesty, and can be trusted---well, go for it but she needs to come clean first.

Just my opinion.

Edited by ashergold (09/27/11 10:24 AM)