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Jul 25 2002 00:20, Thu Anonymous sebagoForum: 072502 Post: 1564    Link
Oh great. Music blaring at 9:25am. What are T & G saying? FOTH Wish they would go back to bed. LOL NT

Jul 25 2002 00:25, Thu JoeyOeyForum: 072502 Post: 1570    Link
F2: T, C & R awakening. Appears C&R slept in separate beds. NT

Jul 25 2002 00:56, Thu Anonymous sebagoForum: 072502 Post: 1589  ParentRootLink
they ended up separate but they started off in the small bed cuddling and whispering and squirming around for a long time last night NT

Jul 25 2002 00:56, Thu JoeyOeyForum: 072502 Post: 1588    Link
F2: HRD bedroom - G,T,C&R talking (more)
Tonya brought coffee to C & R in an attempt to wake them up.

BB is requesting a lockIN in a few moments.

All complaining about how cold it is. It was then that R asked C to get into the bed with him.

T said her b@@bs are leaking again - due to an infection. Claims she can't take antibiotics because of the lack of food. Odd that she (and others) are not alarmed.

Jul 25 2002 14:52, Thu Ole womanForum: 072502 Post: 1735    Link
Dani and Lisa, Dani saying her dad used to grab her. Josh hit Jason's arm with a paddle, he said. And it hurt.

Jul 25 2002 14:55, Thu Ole womanForum: 072502 Post: 1739    Link
Lisa says her dad only gave them dirty looks.
Eric's dad would bump his recliner when he was upset.

Eric's bro used to kick the [censored] out of him, throw him in the close.

Ch is laughing at this. Jason says "He hurt you."

Someone needs to do laundry.

Jul 25 2002 15:07, Thu JulieHForum: 072502 Post: 1757    Link
Mar says he has to be moved out of HOH in one hour NT

Jul 25 2002 15:08, Thu JulieHForum: 072502 Post: 1763    Link
Lock down over NT

Jul 25 2002 15:11, Thu PhantomForum: 072502 Post: 1767    Link
Cycling the Feeds: (Longish)
F3 & 4 are 2 different views of HoH with Marc sleeping on his back and a large lump under the covers to his left (Amy?). Now Feeds are Josh at stove playing with what looks like scrambled eggs in a pan. He appears to have flipped the eggs by picking up one edge with his fingers and rolling it over. He seems all alone, but voices can be heard from HRD and he is commenting on the conversation even though I can't follow what is being said there.

F1 & 2 in HRD with Jason, Roddy, Eric, Danielle, Lisa & Chiara talking about various BB reps they have met (i.e., in the van coming over). Lisa talking about her final interview with a guy who was apparently beautiful. Speculating that Eric will be in the Fireman's calendar this year. The girls suggest poses and Lisa says she will do the photography. The are apparently in a lock-in now, and are talking about the BB lights-out policy of late. Lisa likes it because there is nothing else to tell them when to go to bed. They all speculate on what they will wear for the show tonight.

Marc has entered and gets good morning kisses all around. Eric asks if Marc is going to give him a facial tonight because he shaved. Lisa tells a story about Eric and his arm falling asleep. She is saying that he was hitting himself repeatedly on the chest, but his story is that his arm fell asleep and he was just lifting it and letting it fall. There is discussion as to whether he was actually awake, because he sometimes talks and answers rationally in his sleep.

Lisa asks it they will now do another sit-down practice with Julie. Everyone seems to assume so. They comment on the reaction they get when Julie says their names. Lisa comments on her interview in the HoH last week and how disorienting it is when there is no one actually there to speak to and react to.

Lock down is over. The guys react with monkey sounds and most file out of the room headed for the back yard. Dani and Eric go into the Bathroom. Eric flashes his butt at her, saying "have you seen my butt lately?"

Jul 25 2002 15:41, Thu DC1Forum: 072502 Post: 1816    Link
F1 Dani telling Marci- D:"my husband is so clean, when you hug him he's just clean, he has very good hygiene" "He used to brush his teeth for (more)
40 minutes and then I bought him an electric toothbrush" Then Marc and D talking about not liking to sleep in other peoples beds. D:"I like my own bed, I have to wash my sheets and..."More chit chat..about BB and diary room. Gerry: said I wonder if they have any of the BB1 and BB2 working behind the scenes. D:" I'm sure they do" Gerry: "how come they got all the good games" M: calls E a fudge packer. E: ask how you can tell. get's graphic about finger checks from M...then D quizzes M on how you do that etc.. M: "fecal matter takes my hard on away" more questions from D. {This is getting gross I have to stop now.}

Jul 25 2002 15:41, Thu Just meForum: 072502 Post: 1817    Link
Dani wants to see how far they can push BB. Ge is saying he hated it when they did this last year…Disgusting chatter about fudgepackers.

Jul 25 2002 15:46, Thu RainwomanForum: 072502 Post: 1823    Link
Marcellas's sexual appetite.. LOL
Marcellas, Danielle, and Gerry are talking outside at the table. Marcellas is telling Danielle his sexual preferences about sex. Poor Gerry is listening with his hands holding his head, like he can't believe he's hearing this. LOL Marcellas says he isn't "going for the gold" kinda guy. That he isn't a "pounder". lmfao. Danielle is her easy going self listening to it, but gerry ???? LOL.

Jul 25 2002 15:46, Thu Just meForum: 072502 Post: 1824    Link
Dani discussing being gay. Saying people can be married and still be gay. Marc says he loves Patric Dempsey. NT

Jul 25 2002 15:49, Thu PhantomForum: 072502 Post: 1830    Link
Cycling the Feeds: Thurs noon
F 1 & 2 Girls in Bath room. Chiara changes into bikini in shower. Lisa says that "you and Roddy were so cute sitting there". Commenting on her picking at his blackheads and ingrown hairs on Roddy for a long time. They seem to delight in doing that sort of thing with men they have known. One asks have you ever gone out with a guy that you didn't really want, but stayed until you could fix something like that" They laugh and seem to agree that has been true.

Feed switched to Kitchen and Josh and Jason mentioned BB John. FOTH. Feed back. Josh talking about getting a Madonna ticket for Merit and only getting 1 because he couldn't afford 2. So he sent her to the concert alone. Marc playing the pouty Queen. Amy arises and enters. Hugs Josh. She laughs at something and Jason remarks that she can do that "because she has never ridden a school bus" Amy says "I rode one once to a function" Jason responds, "And the limo had to follow behind." They carry on in this tone for a while. They are having fun with rich people and their attitudes. Amy is pretty funny.

F 3 in back BR. Eric is feeding the lizards while Lisa changes into her bikini under the covers of her bed. They discuss his underwear and what he is going to wear for the show tonight. "How bad are your dirty underwear?" "it's no problem, I don't have to wear anything" Lisa comments something about knowing guys who don't wear underwear. Lisa leaves and Eric finishes up with the lizards. He gets changed while the camera stays on the lizards. He doesn't know that and is talking about "are you looking at my butt?" Finally he says "OK, now" He has apparently finished changing

Feed changes to bathroom and Jason talking about the exercises he needs to do. Amy, Danielle are there. Jason says Amy, you just slept for 14 hours, how do you feel?" "I'm great, but I could use another 3 or 4" Amy said something gross that Jason reacted to, but I didn't catch it. (Something about Gerry's socks). All leave and Amy is left to shuffle cards and sing to herself. I don't recognize the song, and it apparently isn't on the banned list, because we don't get FOTH. She's not really singing full out, but sort of to herself. This goes on for quite awhile, then feed switched to yard and Lisa & Eric laying in the sun. Lisa is fussing incessantly with her suit. Someone in the foreground is lifting weights. Now Lisa asks Eric to fuss with her suit. It seems that she cannot untie the bottoms. he manages to do so and she arranges things so that the string doesn't mar her perfect tan. it was/is Josh lifting weights.

Not much activity on 3 or 4, and the sound isn't catching Lisa and Eric's conversation - Just Josh's occasional comments. Also no close-ups on Lisa, so, moving on.

F1 & 2 Gerry, Marc and Danielle at table in yard. Marc in his robe, Danielle in her jamies. Talking about anal sex because Marc called out to someone about them being a fudge packer. His discussion is in response to direct questions from Danielle about the mechanics and cleanliness of the practice. Gerry says nothing and hangs his head in his hands. Marc comments on people who think Homosexuality and anal sex being wrong. Gerry asks, "do you believe that" Marc responds that most of Gay sex is not anal and that he doesn't give oral sex or receive anal sex, and that because he doesn't give oral, he doesn't like to receive it. Conversation falls off. Marc needs to go to the w/c but can't. Now talking about the casting on Will & Grace. Talk shifts to other actors, Patric Dempsy. Jumping all over about movies.

Jul 25 2002 15:58, Thu RainwomanForum: 072502 Post: 1842    Link
Marcellas's crush. LOL
Marcellas is still outside at the table talking to Danielle. Gerry has disappeared from their sexual conversation. LOL. marcellas told her that he had a crush on "Baretta"... but his pants were too tight. lmfao.

Jul 25 2002 16:11, Thu Just meForum: 072502 Post: 1854    Link
Hearing that Lisa doesn't sleep with someone for 2-3 months, How horny she is at certain times NT

Jul 25 2002 16:14, Thu Ole ladyForum: 072502 Post: 1860    Link
Marc says if he wanted to have sex in the house, he surely would.
And the discuss. Goes on about making a video, Josh comes out looking good.

Ro looks like he's growing a beard. Camerman now focused on rubber duckie in pool.

Jul 25 2002 16:17, Thu Ole ladyForum: 072502 Post: 1863    Link
Now they're discussing Dragonslayer books. Marc however is discussing sex, and now the others also start on that. NT

Jul 25 2002 16:19, Thu Ole ladyForum: 072502 Post: 1865    Link
Marc flips out. He says I hate everyone involved in Big Brother and bails to his room. Quickly the feed changes. NT

Jul 25 2002 16:24, Thu RainwomanForum: 072502 Post: 1875    Link
Outdoor sex chat.
Marcellas, Danielle, Roddy, Gerry was there for a bit, then Lisa joined in, and then Chiara sat down. Roddy said the longest he's gone without sex was 6 months, and he's ready to "go now", it's been hard watching all the girls walking around in bikinis. Marcellas said he had sex the day before he entered the house, and hasn't had the need to "whip it out" just yet. He said he wouldn't have a problem having sex in the house if someone was there that he liked and was not "butt ugly". LOL Danielle said she wasn't going to have an "O"(orgasm) in the house. And Chiars sys she was at her sexual peak before she got snatched away to do BB3.

Jul 25 2002 16:25, Thu PhantomForum: 072502 Post: 1878    Link
Cycling the Feeds: Thurs. Noon II
F 3 BB announces that the can't get a signal from Lisa's mike. Asks her to adjust the mike and count to 10. That doesn't work so she adjusts some more. That worked. Camera is on Josh doing arm exercises with a single barbell. He is grunting a lot. F 4 is a distant shot of Josh working his other arm. No one else is in shot. Sounds like someone is in the pool.

F 1 still on Marc and Danielle, still talking about films. Danielle asks Marc if he is going to Las Vegas (for the after show reunion). He says no, and Dani agrees that there isn't anyone in the house she would hang out with outside of the house. They particularly trash one HG who is unnamed, but they mean Tonya. "Source of pain and embarrassment to her children - carry yourself with some dignity and class" (You get the idea.) Danielle says that Roddy and Eric are the kind of guys you seen in magazines but never meet in real life. No comment from Marc. Dani talks of going back to school and finishing up. Asks Marc if he will. He says I should just go to NYU and get it over with. (Why NYU, isn't he from Chicago?) Gerry asks about his education and he confirms that he went to U in Illinois. Dani wants to go back and get a degree in History. Gerry asks why Marc doesn't go back to get a degree in design. He doesn't like that idea, but he agrees with Gerry's suggestion to take art history. Marc again mentions NYU and says he would love to go there, it's close to where he lives when he is in NY.

The camera switches to focus on the guys as they exercise very loudly. Dani asks if this is the longest Marc has gone without sex. Roddy/Eric interrupts and asks if he has found that his sex drive has dropped about 98% since he got into the house. Marc says he only talks about that in the DR, but he had a wet dream the other night. Roddy/Eric questions for details. Marc says no details, there were no faces. Now asking Dani if she is experiencing the same thing. Dani makes a ref. to wanting her husband, but no further detail. Eric/Roddy says he is ready to go, but that he is surprisingly not excited what with all these beautiful women in bikinis. Roddy/Eric making joke about having sex even with a "5" ( a reference to Dani who rated herself a 5 some days ago) He says that is crazy, but she insists. More people are in the chat now and the topic is still generally about sex drive, when they got it last, would they do it in the house, hornyness during the menstrual cycle - the usual.

F 3 is Josh still working out. He seems to be really pushing himself (nervous energy and tension?) There is some comment that he hears from the table about "we'll ask Merit when we get out" Josh's head pops up and he says "What?", but no one responds and he goes back to work. Roddy, Eric and Josh are all there now doing weights. Roddy/Eric says he is going to do lunges today, so we have that to look forward to.

Camera back to the table with Lisa, Danielle and Chiara. Gerry is on a nearby lounge chair, but not participating. Lisa says that DR asks "since Roddy is the writer, is he the story teller of the house?" She says no, that's Danielle. F 4 is a long shot of the same 3, but the conversation is no better from here.

Jul 25 2002 17:07, Thu SizzleRIForum: 072502 Post: 1930  ParentRootLink
Phantom, Thank You for your updates! (NT)

Jul 25 2002 17:12, Thu JokeretteForum: 072502 Post: 1937    Link
Chess again. Marc says he doesn't have to move out till he puts the key in the hand of the next HOH and… FOTH NT

Jul 25 2002 17:19, Thu JokeretteForum: 072502 Post: 1946    Link
2:18 update
2:18 update
Now BB calls the HGs to the living room. Marc says they're doing exfoliating scrubs.

Gerry is watching the chess game and advising. Seems to be a tournament. Amy walks in, she says she's ready for the show and competition. She's decked out in that black dress. And says it's cold.

They are locked down inside, Amy yells at BB she needs her shoes from outside. Then she starts talking about a dream she had. Something about telling her sister to get a gun. A 9MM,

Now they're out of lockdown, and BB said something I missed. They run around and open the shades.

BB is still directing them to move couches. Says they are close to rehearsing, and they will be playing a game in about 45 minutes. And… FOTH

Jul 25 2002 17:50, Thu raffilaForum: 072502 Post: 1999    Link
Bit of kitchen convo from an hour ago...Dani talking about newlywed advice (more inside)
Dani's in the kitchen with Roddy, Chiara, Gerry, and others drifting in and out.
She says that at her office whenever someone marries or has a baby, everyone is asked to write some advice. All the advice is put together in a gift book.
Dani gives her "just because" advice. She suggests that men aren't aware of how important it is to do something nice for a woman "just because"..in other words--just because you're you and i love you.

Men tend to try to remember important holidays, give flowers by way of apology and seldom think of doing something nice "just because". She thinks that a guy should send a woman flowers at her office with a card signed "just because". The girls agreed but both Roddy and Gerry gave her an argument over it.

Previous to this convothere was a lot of talk about "revenge dates". Roddy also explained a bleeding heart theory whereby guys will go out of their way to avoid hurting a girl when it's pointless, when it might be kinder to let the girl go.
Chiara asked a couple questions of Roddy while he was talking about his love life. When Dani asked him if he had friends he could call for "maintenance" meaning straighforward "booty call" with no strings attached, he said he did...and Chiara asked "a lot?" Chiara seemed uncomfortable, edgy to listen to Roddy talk about his past gf/dating experiences. Chi had a 'tone' in her voice: sarcastic, kinda nasty. Roddy had a tone too: bit defiant..KMA sound.

Dani was intentionally provoking/encouraging this uncomfortable atmosphere.

Jul 25 2002 18:17, Thu Hardy4MeForum: 072502 Post: 2032    Link
FOTH forever it seems! Must be getting ready for tonights show

Jul 25 2002 18:42, Thu mahForum: 072502 Post: 2078    Link
Some exciting water the plants action at FOTH. NTNT

Jul 25 2002 20:36, Thu AnonymousForum: 072502 Post: 2271    Link
T's out NT
T's out NT

Jul 25 2002 20:53, Thu MaryAnnForum: 072502 Post: 2310    Link
Tonight's Show recap (very long)
BB Voice - The budding romance between Roddy and Chiara was interupted by the ringing of a Southern Bell.
Cut to Amy and Chiara swearing about each other (classy) and a bit about how Amy made a deal with Josh to put Chiara up if she saves him.

Danielle - When you think you've got Danielle figured out, you don't.

It's day 20 in the big brother house

JC - On friday, in an effort to break up the alliance of 6, Marcellas put up two of the members, Josh and Tonya.

In the beginning, Marcellas had only one goal in mind, to eliminate Josh. He assured Tonya that she was just

Josh - What I'm doing to stay in the house right now is...ANYTHING i CAN
I've used to my advantage...humility...genuine honesty...a little bit of lying....emotionally, I've choked up some tears. The tears are not real at all, I dunno, I like to
make people feel guilty.

Eric - I don't feel that there's a girls vs guys thing going on at all. I have a good relationship with Lisa and I beleive her when she says they don't talk about the game.
(cut to girls all plotting)

Roddy - I believe Josh could be around if we get the pivotal votes. (Roddy, Jason talking)
Jason put it up to me, he said whatever I want, he'll do it

Jason DR - first and formost, I'm alligned with Danielle.

Lisa telling Roddy that Josh had told her... He has an agenda and I don't think he's as nice as you think he is.
There's a chance, in my mind if he got HOH, he's put a guy up.
Chiara - He'd put you and I up
Jason - I trust Roddy, more than anyone else in this house, I trust Roddy

Cut to food comp and the PB&J people complaining

Amy laughing about making dishes that smell up the whole house.


Josh's girlfriend Merritt and Tonya's boyfriend David have a different opinion

Merritt - I would love to marry Josh some day. There might be a little Joshie some day, I know that's scary for a lot of people

David - She totally contradicts her look. She's not the stripper type, she's never stripped. She's the sweetest girl. The bikini pageant with the flowers shocked me.
She's a free spirit.

Amy opening wine
Tonya DR Amy opened a bottle of wine and drinks a bottle of wine.
Tonya said to Amy, You might need to go to AA when you get out of here

Marcellas - YOU'RE ON THE BLOCK, YOU SHOULD TRY BEING ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOUR
big tension between Marcellas and Tonya

JC - Hi everybody
Now those of you who lost the food comp are in their 6th day of eating PB&J
Chiara, how would you say it has effected the mood of the house
Chiara - Oh, the moods been great (laughter
JC - Amy, you're on the winning team
Amy - Of course. At one time, I tried making a little curtain so they couldn't see.
JC - So you've been considerate of the others?
(laughter)


Tonya - Ok, I just want to say that if I am the one to be evicted, I've had a great time w each & every one of you and I'll see you all in Vegas.

Josh - I just wanna say to the group, if you evict me, I hope you have fire insurance. (laughter) No, whatevah, if you guys kick me out, you suck.

Eric 0 Just not really sure what my level of trust with Josh is right now. Tonya on the other hand I don't think is a major threat.
I vote to evict Tonya
Amy - Josh does act like a child at times, he would Tonya, being herself she didn't really stand out a lot other than her plastic surgery enhancement.
I vote to evict Tonya



Josh's girlfriend Merritt and Tonya's boyfriend David have a different opinion

Merritt - I would love to marry Josh some day. There might be a little Joshie some day, I know that's scary for a lot of people

David - She totally contradicts her look. She's not the stripper type, she's never stripped. She's the sweetest girl. The bikini pageant with the flowers shocked me.
She's a free spirit.

Gerry - because Tonya, she's become an early riser, I've come to know her better. Josh on the other hand, it's been a very rough and rocky road
I vote to evict Josh
Chiara - Tonya is one of the closest people to me in the house. Josh is another one who I'm extremely close to.
I vote to evict Josh


IJC - t's a tense night here @ the BB house as the guests wait to see who will be evicted

Monya - Wonderful, great and fantastic. I wanna work in film, in television, in theater. I have many goals.
They showed letting Monya know about the WTC and her cousin Tamitha. (she looks great)
I had a cousin, Tamitha that was missing in the 9/11 trageday, they never found her. The cousins in my family are like sisters so I lost my sister.


Bunky - since BB, I've been doing the Bunky show for charity. Greg and I are doing fantabulous, we've been together for 13 years and we'll be together for 75 more
and then we'll call it quits. I think people are shocked when I tell them that Kent is someone that I call or e-mail on a regular basis.(Bunky is still workin' out on the
Hardy method and looks incredible)

Cheryl - I've been through Chemo, went through surgeries. You hear stories about what it's like but I think it's all mind over matter. You have to find the positive in
everything. The most important thing to remember is don't get lost in the force. You have to find a solution. I'm now cancer free. (Cheryl looks great)

Will - I'm in L.A. just hangin' out. I was a Dr. when I went in the house, I'm a Dr. now. Buttercup is doin' great. My favourite people in the house are chilltown. I
have a private relationship with Shannon, she doesn't want me to talk about it. Women, you can't live with 'em, you can't make 'em dress up like princess leia and
beat you with a squash. (drool)

Will - If I had to pick one person, who would win the game, I'd pick a male, charismatic, dark hair. Oh, that's me *g*

Bunky on Marcellas - He's a different kind of gay man from me. I don't wear cashmere, ...

Marcellas - Amy is my girl. It makes me happy to lay eyes on her every day.
JC - One question, since you cannot be HOH two weeks in a row, who would you least like to see as HOH

Marcellas - I would honestly least like to see Gerry as HOH. I've learned a lot about him and how he plays the game...

Lisa - I like not having Tonya int he house. She brings a girly environment but she's a little too surface for me. Josh is a good friend. ...
I vote to evict Josh
Jason - Josh brings to this house so much life, so much energy. I can't imagine Tonya is a great assett to this house. She cooks, she cleans, she does laundry.
I vote to evict Tonya

The only people we haven't heard from are Danielle & Roddy
Houseguests, I will now reveal who will be evicted from the BB house.

By a close vote of 5 to 3, Tonya, you are evicted from the BB house

HOH COMPETITION

Houseguests,

I'll ask 8 T or F questions
Raise your paddle if the answer is True, Leave it down if it's false

former hg lori is from Wisc.
True...everyone forward

There is one vegetarian in the BB house
Eric & Jaon are out

Tonya, has a daughter named Brook
All Jason wrong

You chose lisa to be HOH by a vote of 7 - 3
false Everyone forward

Marcellas fave movie is Showgirls
False Everyone forward

in the egg toss comp. All the HG's combined caught more than 80 eggs
True - everyone forward

of the remaining HG's 3 of you have children, true or fals
false - everyone forward (all but Josh and Eric are tied)

Chalkboard coming out
In this case, the answer will be a number. The person closest without going over wins

What was the total weight in pounds of all the HG's PRIOR to eating the giant brownie house?

correct answer is 1,605 lbs 8 ounces

Roddy is HOH!


AMERICA'S CHOICE

America's Choice - Private Time
Who would you like to see win a private dinner date with the HG of their choice?

Jul 25 2002 20:55, Thu MaryAnnForum: 072502 Post: 2315  ParentRootLink
Pic of evicted HG leaving the house
http://www.hugkiss.com/bb/byetonyaani.gif

Jul 25 2002 20:59, Thu JokeretteForum: 072502 Post: 2326    Link
After show
Lisa is outside talking to Josh. Josh is saying "… you implied she wasn't voting my way"

He says Dani strung him along, but before the vote she was in his corner.

They think Roddy will put up Gerry. Jo says if he puts HIM up he'd be furious. She says he won't put you up. She thinks he'll put up… then she won't tell him and says she doesn't know.

HUGE hug and she goes inside.

Jul 25 2002 21:00, Thu bb3fanForum: 072502 Post: 2328  ParentRootLink
it was kiki talking to josh not lisa nt

Jul 25 2002 21:13, Thu avichaiylForum: 072502 Post: 2361    Link
Chiara and Roddy talking after show
Ch: are you saying I can't stay with you in the HOH room
R: It's not that..
Ch: I not going to back my [censored] up I'm jsut going to stay

Ch I knew Josh was staying
R In a personal since it sucks but in the game it is good for you
At least Amy did win
Ch I told you what I did when i say you won, I jumped up and down as a mother I get the HOH room .. just kidding
Ch I can't give up my (bed?)

R: I suck so bad in interviews. Told DR that he was going to win this week

Ch: your not putting Gerry up are you? Who are you putting up? I know who you are putting up?
R: who?
Ch: Amy and Mar.
R: I don't know about that

paraphrasing.. R says that A is Ch's threat but not his, but she will definitly go up as of now

Tonya thing is heartbreaking to Ch, R says he is sorry. Ch is upset b/c D voting against her. R thinks they shouldn't give the numbers to the house. Ch says it is b/c they want you to feel betrayed. Talking about who Lisa voting for? Someone comes over (Josh?) then leaves
If he (Josh) f's over Ch L or Ja, it's on
Ch says their biggest threat is Amy

Talking about first thing Jo thinks about is who screwed him. R wants to go in, but Ch wants to stay outside. Ch says that if Eric just left he would feel the same way <ie sad>

Ch say it isn't even the game. Her life in this house isn't about the game. She keeps it inside... blah blah blah.. The people that end up staying .. doesn't understand what kind of threat Tonya was.
R says T would do exactly what L and Ch would tell her to do... Screwing people over is easy for her to do. No trust, no connection, can't depend on someone who is like that. Her personality isn't tough.
Ch: but she would do what I told her to do
R: still..

Marc comes out side. R asks if he will have to go to DR a zillion times now that he is HOH

R says he was checking on Ch on couch during show. She looked hot

Ch tells her therory of Guy Girl on the HOH practice set up.. how she knew Josh would stay

Feed goes inside, posting

Jul 25 2002 21:17, Thu avichaiylForum: 072502 Post: 2371    Link
Amy & Marcelles convo
Marc and Amy outside.. Marc on the exe. machine

M: it would be very smart for him to get rid of me now
A: it would be stupid for him to get rid of me now
M: We'll find out monday
A: it would be bad for ratings too. Don't send the pretty girl home, she's not finished stirring htings up

M I hope he puts me up against Gerry

Amy humming, smoking cigars
M: the power of veto becomes increasingly important
A is buring her nailpolish trying to light her cigar (windy)

cuts to inside.. posting

Jul 25 2002 21:17, Thu PhantomForum: 072502 Post: 2372    Link
Amy and Marc speculating on the next nominations. Amy says, "Don't send the pretty girl home. She's not finished stiring things up"
Marc hops Gerry is put up and if he has to go up, it is against Gerry.

Jul 25 2002 21:25, Thu QuenchForum: 072502 Post: 2380    Link
f3 with chiara and danielle (more inside)
danielle is saying why she voted tonya out. as a mother she doesn't like tonya as a mother. but the reason she did it was because of the fight between tonya and amy. and since she couldn't veto josh because marcellas wouldn't put up gerry she wanted josh off the chopping block

Jul 25 2002 21:28, Thu supercnForum: 072502 Post: 2383    Link
F1 Bouncing around after Live show -- M&D, C&R, D&M...
F1:

D and M are in the HRD talking, speculating that it will be Gerry and Amy going up before he goes up. They both say that would be fine. Something about not going after Josh, M says "but then Chiara hates Josh." D seems surprised.

D: It's getting very interesting..

M: Yeah it is..



Cam shots are all over right now. E was talking to Jo in the LR. Jo says that he's a lot less sure now that he knows what he knows. And he says to be sure that nothing is for certain. E repeats that. G says "That's the f***in' truth.." and Eric tells him they're live and not to drop the F bomb.

Jo: Well, guess I won't be seeing Merritt for her birthday..

They talk about an idea for Josh to send her flowers and tell him he should go into the Diary Room to find help with it. "John" is in there now and they think he could pull something off.

(Quick FOTH)

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Shot changes to the kitchen area with Chiara and Roddy. Kiki is upset that Tonya left -- she assumes Gerry's going up -- but she had mentioned that she thinks Roddy should nominate Amy and Josh. She adds that she knew Tonya was gone thanks to something in the rehearsal - she counted out how they did them "boy, girl, boy, girl, boy" and R says he wouldn't have figured that out.

Now we're outside to M&A. We see Marcellas gliding away the cardio. A says she doesn't know.. but M says it'd be smart to get rid of him now, "for the end game". A snides that she'd be stupid to get rid of, it'd be bad for ratings. M says that he hopes it's Gerry, and that if he (M) is put up that it's against G.

M: I know one thing, the Power of Veto becomes increasingly important..

A: Oh, nice.. I forgot all about it

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F1 goes to the bedroom with Ch and D. D is explaining to her, civilly, why she voted out Tonya. D says "From one mother to another, I don't respect Tonya. Simple as that. With this game, it has to do with respect. I wanted to take him (Jo) off the block, but I decided I couldn't. So I left it as is so it would be guaranteed that it would be him, or G-Man. But what did it for me with T is how she went out to A and said 'Don't F*** With Me'".

D says "That's it" and asks for Chiara's thoughts.

Ch: You know, I have.. what I think, but I could be way off, but a special relationship with certain people in this house. None of them are skewed, turned, twisted.. or any of that. What I share with you I don't share with anyone else. So I never asked you who I thought oyu were going to vote for b/c it's not my vote. it's not my job to persuade you to vote Tonya in. B/c like I said, you have your relationships with people and I have my relationships with people. (D is agreeing) I didn't try to form some kind of bond, there, because I thought I could. I'm upset T is gone b/c I feel she shouldn't have been up there in the first place, so in that case I'm really upset about it. Like M said, she was kind of a pawn.. and I think that even if you had voted for her, and been tied, M would have had to make the choice anyway. Everyone has their own personal opinions about people. Why I wanted her in here was selfish - nothing about the game or nothing about any of you people - it'd be the same if you and M were up.

D: Like I said in the DR.. every week I take that key and don't take it for granted, because nothing's for certain.


Danielle repeats that she didn't see Tonya as a good mother.. and also thought the way she handled the Amy blowup was "mean". Ch offhandedly agrees.. D says "that was the straw that broke the camel's back". D admits it may have been a dumb move due to the women numbers going down.. Ch says "from the women's point of view, that's going to make it harder now." Ch says T would have been good for that. Ch argues that G will definitely put up Josh.. saying that keeping him (Jo) around could be useful later.

D says her farewell speech to T was "Get your babies back." Lisa comes in..

(BB: Attn HGs. This is a lockdown. Please pull down the shades on the interior windows and remain inside until further notice.)

D goes over her final speech to T again. Ch says hers was "Please don't tell me you're listening to this.. please don't tell me you're hearing this right now".

(BB repeats prev. message.)


Cam changes to people coming inside.. Jason proposes a card game with Amy and I'm sending the first Update from me on the new page, woohoo :)

Jul 25 2002 21:41, Thu PhantomForum: 072502 Post: 2395    Link
Marc enters HRD and warns the girls that Gerry is right outside the door.
He complains that every time he works out on the machine, BB orders a lock down. He says that it has happened 3 times today. All are discussing sleeping arrangements. Danielle proposes that she and Jason (who has just entered) sleep together in the big bed. He says OK, but after she repeats it several times and after the reaction from the others, he says No. Chiara says that she is keeping her bed. Lisa suggests that she will be in the HoH, but Chi says that she may visit but wants to keep her own bed. There are several references to the HRD curse - that all the people voted out have been residents there.

Trashing of Gerry because he is already talking strategy (he just had a chat with Marc in the bath). Marc refers to him as a Ho going from 1 powerful man to another. Marc repeats some of what Gerry said, and the commentary is "does he think that the only person who would put him up is Josh?"

Marc comments that the vote result was not his intention. Chi comments that Roddy came over and covered her so that she wouldn't be seen to cry on TV. The group is breaking up and going to the kitchen.

Jul 25 2002 21:47, Thu PhantomForum: 072502 Post: 2409    Link
Roddy talking about what he has asked for as HoH perks. Beethoven CD's for one.
I don't think that it is an HoH perk, but he has asked for board games. Monopoly and Risk, among others. Roddy pontificates on the theory of how to win at Monopoly (use up all the hotels as soon as possible, because there are only so many).

Jul 25 2002 22:00, Thu supercnForum: 072502 Post: 2440    Link
F1 - Marcellas' intentions, Roddy on Monopoly and Amy's thoughts on noms (more)
F1:

Just flipped to M, Ch, J, D and Lisa in the HRD. Can't tell if others are there. Jason had just complemented Lisa on how she looked tonight - door knock and Josh quickly entered and exited.

M says that in his DR he mentioned that Josh might stay because that's how bad he wants it. "Through sheer force of will". He laughs and lays back, saying "Low and behold.."

(BB: Jason, please go to the Diary Room.)

M: Well, that certainly wasn't my intention (T leaving), as everybody knows.. but as they say, the best intentions.. what is that again?

Jason leaves while Chiara and Lisa talk about how they were about to cry when Tonya was evicted tonight - Li said she was watching Amy's eyes to see if there was any tearing up. They say they should go out and "join the living". On the way out, Chiara asked Marcellas if he minded sleeping with her.


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In the Kitchen, R tells Jo&D that he asked for board games, like Monopoly -- he would beat anybody in Monopoly -- he has a "trick" that is "purely psychological". R informs us that his strategy plays on people's natural greed. Says his trick involves the fact that there is a finite number of hotels, and he would buy them up even for the worst properties b/c others want to put them on Park Place and Boardwalk. Josh brings up Risk and they talk about it for a few seconds.

F1 jumps to Lisa and Eric tending to the lizzies in the Tiki Room.

Amy's there too, apparently talking to herself while folding clothes. She just whispered "Me next, me next. I know you all hate me" to no-one in particular. And also a "Me next Big Brother, I know they hate me". L&E are across the room playing with the pets -- they each bring a lizard out into the living room.. they were talking about the lizards and their third eye, which Lisa thought was a zit or something. Before we bounce shots Eric said "its brain might fall out".


Another jump. Amy still in the Tiki Room talking to Gerry relaxing on the bed. Amy gets a little odd saying "She hates me, she hates me". Apparently talking about Chiara wanting Roddy to nominate her (and she'd be right.) Amy says there's some movie that says "everything is as it should be" and that's how she feels.. even though she'd like to be HoH. G says he would have, too. A says she's always 2nd.. "Always the bridesmaid, always, always".

Jul 25 2002 22:08, Thu StarkForum: 072502 Post: 2463    Link
E/L play chess // Jo/L on feeling Jo getting nommed again

E: would be a bad reason for us to sleep there this week, we can get away from harpsicord and we know we are not goin anywhere this week

L: yeah

E: and chiara will be with him, right

L: most nights

C: hi

L: hi

C; moving time

E: moving on up

E: (about the chess match they are playin)do you know how many times I?ve done that today, that exact thing

L: maybe you do that to see if your pupils are leanring

E: no I just messed up, I?ll come back and kick your butt now though

BB: HGS the lockdown is over, you may now move around the house

E: you ok

L: yeah I?m just thinking

E: ok making sure

L: your just mad that I took your queen

E: hey, easy now

(Eric takes another piece, but it?s a bad angle to see what he took of hers)

(feed changes to Map room)

c: did he get in his room

Jo: do you know what I?m saying, if someone else asks me about it, what do I say, hopefully no one will ask about it

C: right

Jo: you know what I mean, if nothhign else you coming out there and offering then I don?t have to think about it or anything

C: you knew who I thought about

Jo: I knew and Danielle was voting for me and J-Dog went my way to

C: she didn?t? tell me anything

Jo: anyway its not something I?m not thinking about it, its natural, roddy was like your not asking, I?m like you don?t need to ask anything

C: do you know how many people are in the house

Jo: 10

C: 1 hoh and 2 noms

Jo: so its 7 votes, 4 is enough to send some way or keep them,

C: yeah

Jo: this decision should be sort of easy, well I guess not

C: I better not ask

Jo: I?d be devastated if he nommed me

C: I wanted to keep you for a week, but now I?m nomming you, you thought you were out of here didn?t? you

Jo: yes I did, I tried to play it cool but it got to me

C: (Julie chen)josh did you find there was tension in the house

Jo: no tension what do you mean

C: tension?

Jo: I think hes putting you and Jason up

C: haha

C: I?m glad we are getting this break we needed

C: I asked him if he didn?t want me in there, but he said I should give him more credit than that

A: (another room) my eyes were big as saucers

Jo (something about gerry)

C: hes smart

C: I think he knows what everyone else feels

Jul 25 2002 22:16, Thu supercnForum: 072502 Post: 2481    Link
F1 - Eric telling Lisa about Josh finding out her vote to evict him, Jo&C (more)
F1:



Eric and Lisa playing Chess in the LR. Lisa said someone said that her and Eric fit.. E says that's cool. E says he hasn't yet talked to R tonight, but that R came to him and said (mock voice) "I have a fabulous idea".

E whispers, though, that he thinks Josh should shut up. E says he heard Kiki say that they're moving -- Lisa says that they're trying to figure out that HRD room -- because everyone who sleeps in that bed is out. Eric thinks that "for obvious reasons" they should take that bed because they're not going anywhere this week.

D comes around and says she's about to move. E strikes the Jeffersons tune, "Mooovin on Up... to the High Rent". Now some convo about their chess game.



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(F1 changed to the HRD where Josh and Chiara are talking and lying in the double bed)

Jo: I'll be devastated if he nominates me..

Chiara asks why would he do that? Says that if he (R) voted to keep him in. Chiara makes sure that Josh was totally sure he was out the door -- he was. Not sure who else is here.
Jokingly Josh says that it's Chiara and Eric.. or her and Jason (LOL) They both laugh.

Ch: I'm glad we're getting this break, though, that we both need. Daddy's moving up to the upper side. I'm like, you don't want me in there? He's like, You should give me a little more credit than that..

Jo: Think he's gonna look for any input?

Ch: He's smart, though.. I think he knows what everyone else feels and knows..

(FOTH)

Josh is telling Chiara how much he agrees with her when we come back. Beware.. the return of "clearly". It pops up another dozen times in this conversation.

Jo: (smirks) God I was so happy when it came down to a math question..

Ch: Why? Because you knew that Roddy was going to get it?

Jo: (laughs) Yeah, clearly he was going to..

They joke about how Chiara almost guessed 1600 and now she's kicking herself.


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(Shot changes back to the Living Room)

F1 changes back to Eric and Lisa's Chess chat.. I gather that E's telling a story, no clue on what it is. After a minute or so of nothing in particular, Eric asks Lisa if Kiki is okay.. Lisa quietly says she's fine.

E goes on that maybe her, too, could be a little upset. Lisa adds that it would have been terrible if it was Kiki getting voted out b/c she could only hang out with T if Ch was there. E brings up Josh again.. says "he doesn't know how to deal with things - he's never going to let it go." E advises her to deny it (!) but Li says she wants to be honest, not that she owes an explanation..

E thinks Jo will "do detective work until he finds out". Lisa responds "Let him, let him". She says she doesn't feel bad, that she did what she had to do. Lisa says Roddy got teary eyed when Tonya left, "it was kinda cute". E says it's kind of weird how you go from being HoH to back to normal... says that M was kinda sweating and now he's back to normal.


Post

Jul 25 2002 22:18, Thu MaryAnnForum: 072502 Post: 2490    Link
Roddy/Danielle
Danielle - "She doesn't have custody of her children, she tells me she was high on cocaine when she was pregnant. "
Gerry interupts about cocaine

Danielle asked her "what about your trial date" "oh, I might miss it" FOTH....She tells Roddy that Tonya was worried about getting her dogs back and SHE DOESN'T HAVE HER CHILDREN"
"80% of the time the woman gets the kids so you know there's something"

"All the conversations we have, the most condescending when we have girl talk...Tonya"

Roddy - when there was gossip, the first person to spread it was Tonya
Danielle laughs and says "i don't know anything about the kiss"

Roddy "amy, the fact that she'll just take things, she'll pour her wine until it almost pours over and when you ask her for some, it's 1/2 a glass"
Danielle -"I don't think she even knows she's doin' it"

Roddy - "I believe your word...Josh's, well if you see someone making a deal with everybody in the house, your word's meaningless"

segue into talk about highschool
Roddy - did you play basketball?
Danielle - teenage mother, baby in the sand

talks about her audition tape...showing her highschool pic and talking about how this girl should be going places...college...marriage... then she told them that didn't happen to #15..in that picture, she had an 8 month old baby and none of those things happened.

Danielle joking about how well things have worked out..."ah'm so glad I had sex Roddy" (she was 15 when she got pregnant)

feed switches to Josh and a very petulant looking Chiara in the hammock

Jul 25 2002 22:22, Thu tracyKAYForum: 072502 Post: 2496    Link
Danielle/Roddy Feed 4 Summary
Danielle explaining her vote against Tonya to Roddy. Felt confrontaton w/Amy was deciding factor. She has no respect for Tonya and felt the fact that she was unconcerned as to whether she met her court date or not shows she doesn't care about her kids (seemingly). And of course we go to FOTH.
roddy showing sighns of wear and smothering from Chiara. Danielle seems to be doing the rounds of damage control and playing people like she has been.

Jul 25 2002 22:23, Thu StarkForum: 072502 Post: 2500    Link
M: let me tell you how it is, first night she comes in a bit, let me see it, next nights shes moving in and taking your stuff off the shelves (to R)NT

Jul 25 2002 22:34, Thu JokeretteForum: 072502 Post: 2518    Link
Roddy saying he will possibly put up Marc and Amy NT

Jul 25 2002 22:40, Thu MaryAnnForum: 072502 Post: 2525    Link
Roddy/Chiara (long)
Roddy trying to talk strategy to Chiara...Chiara just not getting it.


Roddy - This is such a confession and if you ever get mad at me promise not to use it against me.
Do you really think I didn't know how the box game went?
Chiara - Well of course you did
Roddy - So what does that say about me?
Chiara - Uh, I dunno, like you're stoopid?

Roddy - I'm going to say something tonight, if I get a chance to talk to everyone.
....I was thinking about somehow mentioning it. Like if you see two people in the corner talking
(Gerry walks over and interupts with some inconsequential thing about the garden)
People need private moments. See like that,
that's perfect (Josh comes up)
I was just talking about, how it's strange how Gerry doesn't get that if two people are talking that it's not...we're not talking about the game all the time
Josh - exactly
Roddy - Gerry walked over to us and just looked at us
(**Nobody gets that Josh just did the EXACT same thing as Gerry....**)
Roddy - (to Josh) Are you gonna be cool if I don't put him up?
Roddy - If I do, she's goin' up (Amy) and Marcellas is goin' up to guarantee that she goes
Josh - The only thing is this, so he's gonna get tossed so why not wait. I just want to give my
reasons.

Chiara - Even if Danielle does get the power of Veto, she'll use it to put Marcellas down?
Josh - She'll keep Amy and put Jason up
I think I'm gonna get away with one this week. I'm heartbroken to put Marcellas up. It beats the hell over puttin' Lisa up, even Dani, I'm startin' to fall in love with her. I'm sorry your friend left but you got a guy chasin' after ya. You've got the cutest guy on tv chasin' after ya.
Chiara - No, I like the cutest guy
Roddy - When did ya start likin' Jay?

Jul 25 2002 22:40, Thu supercnForum: 072502 Post: 2526    Link
Keeping Gerry, Roddy's sleeve, Jason in the Six, HoH perks (more)


Happy and looking relieved, Josh and Chiara were laying in the hammock and discussing what Roddy may do with the nominations.

Josh asks if it was "smart to keep the Nazi around". Chiara replies she truthfully has no idea and that Roddy wouldn't tell her his plans, but she does think Gerry is an easy mark b/c he has no-one on his side. Also, Josh is again worried about what would happen if Gerry nominated him by getting HoH.

He also mentions that she (C) should be flattered that he took her voting against him so much to heart. She replies that she was in a tough position but she wanted to get it out there and be open about it. Says that she had a really good speech for him from the DR if he would have went.


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Back on F1 I was watching R talking to E&L during their living room game. Little happened over the course of about ten minutes... just that R joked that he's nominating this guy named Eric.


R lowered his voice to a whisper and finally said something. Said There's a good chance he's going to have a "big surprise up his sleeve with this one" -- and that there's no chance that any of these three (R&E&L). E says he's figuring.. and R stops him and wonders if he's figured out a scenario. E says he's "always thinking of scenarios". Josh enters the shot and falls on top of Lisa -- that convo ends quick.


A bit passed. Josh just proposed bringing Jason into the "6". That they could be "Six Strong". Eric listens while Lisa says she gives Jason credit for doing what he wants to do, "no matter what", that he will follow his heart and do what he believes in. That he won't do something merely out of the need to be associated with a group. Josh says they're five strong now.. E says that at this point Roddy has spoken to Jason and "at this point that's all that needs to happen. That's it."

E says that he did joke with Ja about talking about the game later but it doesn't matter if they get around to it or not. Adds "that's not a kid you want to pressure. He'll keep sh** tucked in the back of his head if you push him too much. You don't want to lose people that way."

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Some small talk. BB eventually says "The Head of Household Bedroom is now available." Danielle and Lisa perk up and Josh jokes "I'm moving right in!"

Roddy walks in and says "Yay!" HGs are all coming into the HoH to check it out. L&Ch both say "Oh my God.."

He got bread, apparently, some pictures.. a subway map, and some game thing. A picture of Alaska, A&W Rootbeer, Ben and Jerry's. Danielle finds his CD -- it is the Chicago Symphony Beethoven's first symphony..

FOTH

Jul 25 2002 22:44, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2531    Link
BB announces that The HOH room is ready for Roddy. Everyone goes in to see what he got...
There's lots of stuff, I didn't catch everything because the feed switched.

Everyone seemed very excited except Roddy.

There was a map in with his stuff and chiara was showing someone (Jason?) where she lived on it. FOTH

Jul 25 2002 22:47, Thu augieForum: 072502 Post: 2538    Link
Amy quote: Oh, Marcellas I hate being common nt

Jul 25 2002 22:49, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2544    Link
Marc cleaning
He's cleaning, sweeping the bathroom. It looks cleaner than I've ever seen it.

Amy is in there and they are chatting. At one point she said, "Oh Marcellas, I do so hate being a commoner."

Marcellas is cleaning everything in site.

they call Josh, tell him he can use the bathroom now.

Josh at the pore cam.

Josh calls Amy on being depressed about being evicted from the HOH room, says Marc is taking it better.

Josh goes to kitchen, gets something out of the fridge, now going ovet to look at teh game Roddy got.

Walks past Lisa and Eric playing chess, Jason watching.

Goes into the HOH room where Chiara and Dani are looking at teh map. He's showing them where he lived, his hometown.

Jul 25 2002 22:52, Thu StarkForum: 072502 Post: 2547    Link
Short exchange but a good one
A: Marcellas I do so hate being a commoner

M: laughts

the arsitoracy, i hate being a commoner

(missed something)

Jo: your taking this worse than marcellas

A: I do so hate being a commoner

Jo: dude you were a commoner long before this house

A: i know

Jul 25 2002 22:52, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2548    Link
F1&2 on Josh, Chi, Dani in the HOH room still looking at the map, trashing the Hamptons. NT

Jul 25 2002 22:57, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2555    Link
Eric teaching Lisa chess. Amy and Jason watching. Amy quoting Gone With the Wind...Eric yawning, being hungry. E/L go out ot the hammock. NT

Jul 25 2002 22:59, Thu StarkForum: 072502 Post: 2558    Link
Josh tells Li that he had planned on proposing to his girlfriend tonight

Jul 25 2002 23:00, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2560    Link
Josh saying he was planning on asking Merrit to marry him if he'd benn evicted. Now he says he has 2 weeks to plan it, get the ring. NT

Jul 25 2002 23:03, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2566    Link
Josh playing Bball, Eric, Lisa, and Dani in the hammock. Chit-chat about NY and CA. Eric talks about his job situation, doing shift swapping. NT

Jul 25 2002 23:05, Thu supercnForum: 072502 Post: 2569    Link
F1 - Commoner Amy, Josh proposing to Merritt (more)
F1 is on Amy sulking in the Bathroom while Marcellas cleans furiously.

A says that she "hates being a commoner". M jokes with her, but she just repeats the whine. "I haaaaate being a commoner, Marcellas."

Marcellas is wiping everything in the room down with tissues and alcohol. Josh rolls in and washes his hands. Josh jokes that Amy is taking it worse (that Marcellas was evicted from HoH room) than M is. She repeats (AGAIN) that she "doesn't want to be a commoner".

Josh heads for the kitchen and F1 follows him in. He picks up "Kreso", apparently it's Roddy's game. Looks at it for about two seconds and says "Looks thrilling".


(LOL)


F1 still following Joshie around. He walks past E&L playing while Ja watches and then heads into the HoH to chat immediately about this New York area map with Danielle and Chiara. Josh shows him where on Long Island he stays -- says he lives now near the Nassau County/Queens line. Danielle asks him about the rest of the map.. and he shows off some town (Merick?) in Rhode Island that he was born in where his parents still are.

Now he's talking about the cities he's lived in.. now Chiara is showing them where her house is. In the Hampton Bay and she left East Hampton. Josh said they are the "Ghetto Hamptons".. the workers live there in the summer. He points out Yankee Stadium, Flushing, and Ch says she'll show them all the best restaurants and everything in Times Square.

F1 eventually hops back to the LR.. Amy and Jason are hanging around the couches.


Ja: I think Julie Chen is a super-classy lady. I just had to say it. I really like her.

A: I think she hates me. I've offended her one too many times.

Jason tells A she can always start over with an impression.. and before you can blink twice Amy bursts into song.


F1 follows Jason outside, E&L are getting in the hammock and Josh is playing ball.. not much going on with this feed now. Josh did just say how relieved he was that he's hanging in the house now. Lisa asks if she should be under the impression that Josh is glad to not have seen Merritt tonight. Josh agrees -- but says that Merritt will be seeing him either way.. he's happy about the money. Josh says he was gonna propose tonight (!) -- E "Are you serious?"

Josh tells them he doesn't have the funds for a marriage to anyone -- yet he'll be with her forever so eventually he'll have the funds. He adds that he should have planned something better b/c he really thought he was being voted out.. now he's got at least 2 weeks to find something to do for her. E says BB would be happy to help him shop for a ring, or call a friend, or whatever.. that BB would love to be a part of it.

They were still discussing the stipend for HGs living in the house. If I just heard right, Josh said something that meant they were sequestered fifteen days before BB aired. Jo went "What's that, 37 now? 22 here and 37 in reality?" Guess he's referring to about two weeks in the hotel before entering...

Danielle joins the couple at the hammock. Posting...

Jul 25 2002 23:23, Thu AnonymousForum: 072502 Post: 2605  ParentRootLink
Re: F1 - Commoner Amy, Josh proposing to Merritt (more)
I think that's sweet. i really don't think that Josh is a horrible person. I think he's just out to play the game, and well plays the game badly. However, he did keep his word to Lori, which I respect.

I think he really loves Merritt and is truthful to her (compared to Eric to his girl) I respect that, and I think we need to be careful about judging someone on the basis of how they are at playing a game.

I wouldn't trust Josh in a second (for this game) he's a horrible liar, but I don't think he's horrible either...

Jul 25 2002 23:09, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2580    Link
All four feeds on the hammock...
Dani, Eric, Lisa.

They talk about travelling. Dani tells them that her taxi driver on the way to final auditions hit on her during the whole ride, that it freaked her out. They start to talk about audition stuff and F2 switches to Chiara and Jason talking about Jason having a crush on her. She says something about him being the hottest guy, he's flattered.


Jul 25 2002 23:23, Thu StarkForum: 072502 Post: 2606    Link
Gerry is safe....an agreement with Roddy
Roddy has told Gerry that he is safe this week if he repays the favor to roddy when gerry gets HOH, he also said that the other stipulation is that if he puts up Amy then Gerry cannot veto it should he get the power

Gerry agreed

Gerry has asked roddy to help him with josh by getting him to ease off a bit
roddy thinks that is alraeay happening, and gerry agreed

Jul 25 2002 23:24, Thu tracyKAYForum: 072502 Post: 2608    Link
Danielle/Roddy/Eric/Lisa
Danielle dishing on Tonya. Still making the rounds. She got her babies. heh.

Jul 25 2002 23:29, Thu supercnForum: 072502 Post: 2619    Link
F1 - Roddy strikes his deal with Gerry in the HoH Room (more)
F1:

(Living Room)

Gerry and Amy are trying out the new game.. Gerry told her that, if she went up, she could always be vetoed. Amy replied that she isn't up right now, and Gerry tells her that "nothing's set in stone".

F1 changes to the HoH. Josh came in and asked for Macadamia nuts. Roddy is wondering what that game is.. he thinks that his mom got it at a garage sale and just threw it in the bag. They both love macadamia nuts.

Josh jokes that he's Roddy's greatest ally because he is "Gerry-Off" (like repellent). R jokes some more and mentions liking the provisions he gets as Head of Household. Amy comes in too. Josh lounges around while Roddy tries to hang up his Subway Map.. now Jo works on hanging it up. Roddy is moving his clothes into the dresser in there..

At some point Gerry wound up in the room and Roddy closed the door to have a private conversation with him.

R tells G that if he keeps him off, he owes him one.

G is nodding and agreeing quickly. R says if he puts Amy up, and G gets a veto, that he doesn't veto her. He says "she's gotta go." Roddy now shows us that his intention is undoubtedly to see Amy out of the house.


R: You're safe.

G: Quid pro quo.

R: You made it. Don't worry.

G: No, we're cool. Listen.. If I had gotten your place.. after the crap she pulled with the food, she's up. I'm basing it on that. Rubbing my face in about it. I'm so hungry.. Ch & I were sitting there..

R: Especially if stuff's rationed.. to be so selfish about it, it just shows a lot. It's strange like - you know - I'm sure she's not a bad person, but in an environment like this where you've got to depend on somebody --

G: I need a favor from you. Josh is coming around. Josh is talking to me again. Keep encouraging him.. we have to be civil. I don't think he got why I did what I did..

R: No, but at this point I don't know if he does know.. I did tell him this is ridiculous. Told him you have to live with this guy (G).. you can't be a complete jerk. It's going to get better.

G: It has, and I give him major credit.. we had a chat, cleared the air a little bit..

R: I told him, every chance you get, take G for a game.. in this environment, people say strange sh**. I just think that.. give him a chance to bail himself out and he'll take it.

G: Good. Marcellas knows, too.

R: Of course, that's not the biggest deal. It's a moot point. Of course I've got to put somebody up. I considered putting literally everybody up. You and I had spoken about the game a ton, it was nice and I liked that.. I think in many ways we speak the same language.

G: Quid pro quo.

R: You understand..

G: I do.

R: So, I guess my goals come true to make it half the summer.

G: And have a good time doing it..

R: And of course this is no-one's business.

(They shake and smile. Gerry seems genuinely relieved and pats Roddy on the back before walking out.)

Roddy said he's going to listen to a little music and "veg out". Gerry said he will go to raid the tacos, but just heads outside. F1 changes outside to the group by the hammock. Posting

Jul 25 2002 23:31, Thu KimMForum: 072502 Post: 2622    Link
Kiki, Jason, Amy and Marc trashing Gerry. (more-long)
Josh playing basketball, calls Gerry a fatboy. Laughing. Josh says , "Well, its better than Nazi." All agree.

Kiki talks about him interrupting conversations.

Marc says he claims he's speaking for others when he hasn't been told to, that he did that with tonya - came to Marc with messages from Tonya.

M: "You ain't smart, fatass. You run around here thinking you are, just 'cause you're a teacher."

Talk moves to noms. chiara says she thinks Roddy will nom her (jooking?). Marc says he hopes that he goes up against Gerry if he goes up. Everyonet hinks Gerry will go up.

Gerry comes out, says Roddy is listening to his CD.

Food talk. Gerry says he feels peckish, then explains what the word means, says "the English say it." Any says, "I just say I'm hungry." Several minutes of peckish talk. Gerry leaves, lots of laughing.

Roddy joins the group, joking chit-chat. Everyone is waiting for food. Roddy says he'd like to call his mom and ask her why she sent some of that stuff, wonders if she even had anyting to do with it.

Roddy and Marc compare their HOH baskets.

Jason suggests that they should go in DR and tell them what they want when they get HOH, so they'll get what they want.

Jul 25 2002 23:43, Thu StarkForum: 072502 Post: 2633    Link
Hows Nominations done....
Lisa explains that you have to go into DR tell them who you will nominate, then go get keys and put them in box. roddy wanted to know when was teh latest he could tell his nominees they were going up, Lisa tells him that you can't tell them, the keys tell them, you can say you probably will put someone up but you can't tell them directly.

Roddy says he hates that he will have to look at his nominees for so many days before the eviction


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