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Jul 27 2002 00:09, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4425				Link
Roddy and Eric talk about Jason.
Roddy says he has read the bible at night and questioned Jason the next day. Jason always knows what he is talking about. "If this is a con, he would have had to start studying 5 years ago. If there's anyone here who wouldn't lie to you, it's him. My Dad would lie to me before him."

Jul 27 2002 00:12, Sat	MisterSlippery	Forum: 072702 Post: 4429				Link
Ok I'm officially in love with Roddy now - text of feed inside
Roddy talks about his DR : he says they asked about the stuff with amy and the sexual play with chiarra. He says he told them that people talk about philosophy, religion their familys but all they are interested in is the sex. he also tells marcy - "well of course I've flirted with YOU (marcy) not as much as I flirt with Chiarra though"

Jul 27 2002 00:25, Sat	giveGerryAbreak	Forum: 072702 Post: 4448		Parent	Root	Link
Re: Ok I'm officially in love with Roddy now - text of feed inside
I didn't like Hardy last year and I don't like Roddy and Eric this year...they are all too stuck on themselves IMHO.

Jul 27 2002 00:12, Sat	supercn	Forum: 072702 Post: 4430				Link
F4 - Lisa schools the girls on how to give a BJ (!) (long)
(warning, adult content) F4 was bouncing everywhere and then got to the ladies outside - Chiara, Lisa, Danielle and Amy. They're enjoying cigars.. someone says they should control the smoke and keep it down. I must have caught this conversation before it began, but Dani said you can hold your lips to keep the smoke in by pretending you're "giving head".. Chiara tells them she's went down only seven times ever. She says she's not good at it at all. Lisa chimes in - one of her best friends hates oral sex. Lisa tells a story about "schooling" her friend, drawing it out at her bar with a wine bottle and forks. Lisa told the group that her friend had the best sex of her life that night.. Some chatter here and there that was hard to make out. I think Amy is blatantly trying to take the wine from other people's glasses, but I only got that from the audio.. I didn't see it. Lisa darts inside to get a fork - it seems she'll be demonstrating for them... she returns and it looks like the girls are going to listen. L: Pay attention now. First, you need to tease. Lift it up and kiss everywhere, chest, belly button.. She's actually trying to point this out using the fork. No argument, here. L: Find a spot where the skin goes up... Know where I mean?? Go up in a circle and spiral around the whole thing until you get there. Then, take your tongue and go around the tip. Lisa goes on describing it.. she called the tip "the mushroom", basically said it was all about teasing and putting pressure at some spot. Chiara cracked that she needed a pamphlet and Lisa laughed. Roddy heads over so the lesson stops and they try to play it cool. Someone mentions the fish. He also asks what they're talking about and Lisa says she's showing them the proper way to "eat corn". After Roddy exits, Chiara blurts out that what she is being taught by Lisa might benefit him directly. Lisa starts talking about using her gums during this -- Marcellas comes out to join them in the backyard and knows instantly what they're talking about. He jokingly warns Gerry to go back inside and they laugh.. Feed went back inside shortly following that. We ended up with shots on all feeds of most guys hanging in the kitchen. They were avoiding the outside area because they thought "girl talk" was in session. Posting...

Jul 27 2002 00:14, Sat	ktan	Forum: 072702 Post: 4434				Link
L admits to R that they were giving blow-job tips outside nt

Jul 27 2002 00:26, Sat	MaryAnn	Forum: 072702 Post: 4453				Link
My transcript of the Lisa talk (some screen caps of her demo too) (way too graphic)
Danielle pulls on the cigar in short puffs and then jokes that smoking a cigar is a lot like giving a blow job...girls all laugh Chiara says they should always give her alcohol if they want her to spill Chiara, "like I've only ever given a BJ 7 times" Lisa, "really?? is it because you don't like it or you don't know how?" Chiara, "well I'm learning some things like the moistening thing and the ball thing" Lisa, "I could teach you if I had a sausage" Chiara explains that she just didn't do it. She tried it once with an old boyfriend and then 6 times with her last boyfriend. (she seemed to be saying that she had a lot less experience than they thought) Lisa said "I could teach you how to do it if I had a bottle of wine and a fork" "I taught a girlfriend of mine on a fork and she went home and then called me and was like THANK YOU LISA" Lisa begins showing how on a spaghetti lifter she got from the kitchen She's explaining the mechanics and Amy wants to know where the vagina goes. Lisa shows the mechanics that the woman is in front of the man. Amy, "this is so educational!!" (giggles) Lisa, "There's a part where the skin is...you see this part? I usually tongue here and around the mushroom head but don't touch the soft part right away. Then after a while, I lick along the hole gently" "it's all about touching, starting with the inner thighs, his belly button, work his inner thighs. Start slow and then...right here you swirl around and over" (more giggling as she manouvers on the fork) I'm sorry dad, I learned this from a book...a book I found in your room when I was a kid (she's kidding) Roddy interupts but they get rid of him quickly Lisa, "So then, on this part there's a vein, a thick vein and you drag your tongue and use pressure and then you sorta move your head along the side and you gum it...firm like you're eating corn" (girls crack up) Danielle "she [censored] gums it!!!" Roddy comes up and asks what they're doing and they laugh Lisa, "I'm teaching them how to eat corn on the cob" Chiara "What I'm learning here, I promise will benefit you...maybe" (laughter) They tell him to leave Lisa starts to show them on Chiara and Amy's arm and Danielle yells..."oh you mean lipping it!!!" Lisa, "yeah, lipping!" (more giggling) Marcellas comes to say the food is ready and backs away calling to Gerry "You don't want to be here!!" (more giggling and then all feeds on the guys) http://www.hugkiss.com/bb/lisademo.html the caps

Jul 27 2002 00:40, Sat	MisterSlippery	Forum: 072702 Post: 4468		Parent	Root	Link
good job !! NT

Jul 27 2002 00:38, Sat	AMYGEE	Forum: 072702 Post: 4463				Link
Amy must be intoxicated. she usually shys away from this kind of thing. n/t

Jul 27 2002 00:39, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4466				Link
Earlier, Roddy/Eric said to Eric/Roddy "Girls are all f**ked up. They are all professionals at it."
Now the 4 girls are in the HT but all are facing outward, with their backs to each other. Chi talks to Lisa, Amy talks to Dani. Can't get much of what is being said except some off camera comments to/from Roddy/Eric. Roddy/Eric enters the tub. and sits by himself. The girls remain back to back. Dani apologizes. Now Josh comes over and sits at the back. Someone just invited Jason to come in. Marc just remarked something about keeping an erection" I think it was about the HT. Roddy/Eric sneaks up on Amy and tickles her. All the girls have now turned around and sat down. Gerry comes by to ask how clear the water was when they got in. Apparently he put in something that turned the water yellow, but was supposed to clean up the water. I have little idea what was going on. There is little conversation that is interesting that can be heard properly over the HT.

Jul 27 2002 00:40, Sat	guitrldy	Forum: 072702 Post: 4467				Link
OMG! The girls were all facing the jets of the hot tub... each at their own nozzle. You do the math! Then the boyz started drifting out and...
... insinuations were made. 1+1=2... the boyz were intrigued. Then Gerry Garcia came out and ruined the "moment" for all! Perhaps just a show for the boyz... hmmmm...

Jul 27 2002 00:48, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4479		Parent	Root	Link
Thanks, that explains a lot. You go girls. N/T

Jul 27 2002 00:55, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 072702 Post: 4492		Parent	Root	Link
Not just a show...
Chia and Dani talked about the jets... and Lisa said she hoped they were OK with her chat and was worried what the others thought about her oral sex lesson earlier. Chia tried to lift a leg up, kinda joking, to straddle the jets... and BB cut away for a second to the guys inside. Then a few minutes later the camera came back to all 4 girls each facing a jet. Dani was making a face and moaning (a week ago she told Chia she masturbated with a shower head). Dani was clearly enjoying this. The other girls were silent. They were all facing the jets. Eventually Josh sat down by them and he commented that he could do it better and faster with his tongue. They ignored him.. BB cut to Roddy who then came out to hot tub. He got in and commented that college kids must be watching the internet and thinking what is wrong with those guys in there that can't satisfy 4 women who have to straddle the hot tub... Slowly all 4 girls turn around. Amy's face is pink. Dani looks relaxed. BB then cuts to Gerry and Marc in bed chatting and you hear BB call Chiara to Diary Room....

Jul 27 2002 00:58, Sat	KWren11	Forum: 072702 Post: 4497		Parent	Root	Link
Re: Not just a show... Ooops that was by me, KWren11, I forgot to log in.. and YES it really happened.. NT

Jul 27 2002 00:57, Sat	DressageRider	Forum: 072702 Post: 4495		Parent	Root	Link
5 stars for your picture of the dog. Too Cute. What a great dog!!!

Jul 27 2002 01:10, Sat	guitrldy	Forum: 072702 Post: 4514		Parent	Root	Link
Re: 5 stars for your picture of the dog. Too Cute. What a great dog!!!
Thank you... ! He's actually my Wheelchair Service Dog... that pic was taken when he was 4 mos old... cutie! He's 4 yrs old now and still my little boy!

Jul 27 2002 00:48, Sat	ktan	Forum: 072702 Post: 4480				Link
All feeds stuck with G/M in HRD bedroom talking about nothing in particluar, short FOTH, back again nt

Jul 27 2002 00:51, Sat	supercn	Forum: 072702 Post: 4484				Link
F1&2 Josh and Eric play basketball, hot tub in background NT

Jul 27 2002 00:53, Sat	listex	Forum: 072702 Post: 4487		Parent	Root	Link
Re: F1&2 Josh and Eric play basketball, hot tub in background NT
Josh tells Eric how they never show the BB court on camera...ha.

Jul 27 2002 00:59, Sat	KWren11	Forum: 072702 Post: 4501				Link
Repost of "Not Just a Show"
Chia and Dani talked about the jets... and Lisa said she hoped they were OK with her chat and was worried what the others thought about her oral sex lesson earlier. Chia tried to lift a leg up, kinda joking, to straddle the jets... and BB cut away for a second to the guys inside. Then a few minutes later the camera came back to all 4 girls each facing a jet. Dani was making a face and moaning (a week ago she told Chia she masturbated with a shower head). Dani was clearly enjoying this. The other girls were silent. They were all facing the jets. Eventually Josh sat down by them and he commented that he could do it better and faster with his tongue. They ignored him.. BB cut to Roddy who then came out to hot tub. He got in and commented that college kids must be watching the internet and thinking what is wrong with those guys in there that can't satisfy 4 women who have to straddle the hot tub... Slowly all 4 girls turn around. Amy's face is pink. Dani looks relaxed. BB then cuts to Gerry and Marc in bed chatting and you hear BB call Chiara to Diary Room....

Jul 27 2002 01:20, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4519		Parent	Root	Link
Thank you for that N/T

Jul 27 2002 01:08, Sat	ktan	Forum: 072702 Post: 4513				Link
All feeds in HOH room. Jo/R continue to strategize. Jo called to DR. Chi comes in as Jo exits. nt

Jul 27 2002 01:33, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4537				Link
R/Jo/L/C in HOH. L rubbing (lotion?) C's back, both making sex noises. Roddy covers lap with pillow, laughs. Knock on the door....
- Jason! R says you showed up at just the right time! Lots of laughter. Ja shows them the ice cream he has, put it on the table and quickly exits the room. Roddy leaves for the WC, C jokes about Ja "doing her front." Then C says she and Ja have to talk later. Feed changes to kitchen. Amy confronting R about his speech, says she only disagreed with the part about talking behind other's back (or something ot that effect). They talk it out pretty reasonably. HGs now eating ice cream, chit-chat.

Jul 27 2002 01:42, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4544				Link
R: "The girls were putting their fun things against the HT jets on national television."
L: You looked unhappy about it. R: Are you kidding? It was one of the greatest moments of my life.

Jul 27 2002 02:07, Sat	Kat	Forum: 072702 Post: 4563				Link
Marcellus just busted Jason on "plotting". Jason asked M if he stayed would he want hoh...or what...?

Jul 27 2002 02:26, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4594				Link
Chi talking about Amy starting trouble in the DR...
She said Amy used her sexuality against her. Chi says she puts it out there, but it's an act. Anyone with a brain knows that. Jason knows she's playing. She calls herself a whore and he says, "No." C says A goes for the easiest thing to attack.

Jul 27 2002 02:34, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4599				Link
Jason spilled his coffee shake on the counter, everyone laughing. R,D,C called in, and Jason says he threw up. Noone really reacted. NT

Jul 27 2002 02:56, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4607				Link
What's going on in the HOH room....(long)
R/C/D/L Kiki leaves to change, going back to HT. Dani says she used to be a lot like Kiki, but she has children now... Roddy talking again about nothing being off limits, he's never offended by things. Eric comes in. Dani talks about liking to listen to people. R says his goal is to see the security guys. He suggest (joking) that he and Eric should throw down after lifting weights one day. They'd just lose a 1/2 million. Lisa says she'd be here even without the money. Eric agrees, so does Roddy. Dani doesn't comment. Roddy tells Eric what he, D, L, and C had been talking about. He's tlaking about Dani not having everyting handed to her, how sehe deserves this summer off, etc.... R: Unfortunately, everyone likes you. It's going to be hard to kick you out. <silence> R: Whoa-o! Not that joke! <laughing> Dani finally laughs. Talk about their keys, the power of veto being tough, Dani not taking anything for granted. Lisa talking about her bruises. She blames the latest batch on Eric. Chit-chat. Bball talk. Lisa points out the veto comp is tomorrow. Roddy says they'er doing something else at 10 in the morning, doesn't know what. L and D say they like just playing the games, seeing what they come up with. They talk about wanting more prizes. Roddy suggests a movie night or cash. Dani talks about having the POV, not using it because she couldn't control what would happen. Roddy says BB told them they wouldn't enforce the deals made during the veto game. Roddy asks, "So what was the point?" There was nothing to back it up. It was like "who wants my box? "Intern fired" "Who thought of that one?" Talk about what they ordered for lunch tomorrow. It looks like they're getting Subway again. Now talking about how they should be able to drink more, at least be able to get a little drunk one night a week. Roddy says it's insulting, stupid. Lisa says they (BB) made her drink during interviews at teh bar. R: Were you drunk? L: I wasn't Amy-drunk, but I was a little. R speculates about what Amy is like during an Ole Miss football game drunk. Everyone Amy bashing.

Jul 27 2002 03:05, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4612				Link
Amy and Marcellas in bed talking....
A: I cry at the drop of a hat. Commercials make me cry. Some woman can say the total at the drive-thru wrong and I'll cry. But I haven't cried in this house. I won't cry in this house. Talking about how much they hate the room (the lizard room). amy says it has bad memories. Marc says it has too many colors. Amy says she needs to do or say something cutting to Roddy. Amy says she has all the chocolate candy bars hidden in her shirt. Marc laughing. Amy eating a candy bar, throws wrapper behind the bed. Marc, laughing, tells her not to littter, makes jokes about vermin in her apartment. (Marc is lying on his mic, can't hear him very well.) Amy says she wishes it was over. The wait is bad. Marc calls it sadistic. M: What if I crack under the pressure and grab Eric and screw him in the a** in front of everybody. A: I hope you drown in Alaska. (She's talking about Roddy.) M: Be nice....or don't be nice. A: I hope you get HOH and put him and his bitch up.

Jul 27 2002 03:17, Sat	Kaz	Forum: 072702 Post: 4618				Link
E, D, Chi and R talking about Tonya, how she didn't have anything to offer.. NT

Jul 27 2002 03:24, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4621				Link
Josh and Lisa talk about the anger over Tonya's goodbye....(long)
Lisa asks why he didn't just come to her instead of asking around (she sounds annoyed.) Josh is apologizing for getting in her way when Tonya was evicted. Lisa said he seemed incincere. He denies it. Lisa calls him on campaigning against Tonya after he said he wouldn't. Josh tries to say Lisa had questioned Tonya's mothering ability. Josh says he didn't go to people and tell them to vote against T. He apologizes again. Lisa says again that he hogged the goodbye and she feels she didn't get to have aproper goodbye with Tonya. Lisa: it's not about me being mad at you. I told you when I was ready to tlak about it, was less emotional, I would talk to you. She's mad that he talked about it behind her back. He said he'd done research on it and asked to talk to her before the conversation began. J: If it's wrong for me to try to find out why you're mad at me.... They're saying the same things over and over. The gist is that she told him to wait until she was ready to talk when he tried to open this subjuect yesterday. Today, he was asking people why she was mad and she's upset about that. She still thinks Josh was trying to make a big, fake, dramtic exit and it ruined her saying goodbye to T. Lisa is annoyed that he broke the "just come and talk to me" deal. Josh(and his paranoia)thought he was being blown off. They hug. Things seem to be settled for now. Josh *still* apologizing, groveling, trying to say his campaigning was something else. Lisa mentions him putting pressure on Jason. Josh denies it. Josh also says he never went to Dani and said anything anti-Tonya. Lisa not commenting on any of that. Now saying she's not mad. Josh going back to being blown off again. (ed. He has no idea when to quit!)

Jul 27 2002 03:35, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4635				Link
Dani trashing Tonya now, why she voted her out (more)
The she talked about her kids, T wanting to be taken care of by a man. Dani saying the thing that bothered her most was that Tonya was talking about getting her dog while she's sitting on BB without custody of her kids. T talked about her kids being here and there, her not having custody. D: There's something wrong with that, when a mother doesn't fight for her children. Talking about how everything had a price tag with T. D:If I didn't have custody of my kids, I'd be like Arnold kiss my a**. FOTH! (ARGH!!!!)

Jul 27 2002 03:42, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4639				Link
E to R about Josh: When people go back on their agreements, break contracts, they have no rights. NT

Jul 27 2002 03:46, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4640				Link
Shades of Will Kirby. Dose anyone else see the similarity between Jason and Will at this angel on F3.
He is agreeing with everything that Chiara says and is flattering her at every turn. Damn, he just spoke directly to the camera with an aside. His voice is even becoming more similar. Chiara wants to talk to Jason about the alleged Amy DR accusation that Chiara is manipulating Jason with her sexuality. "I know you are who you are, that you are very true to your beliefs, but I don't think you are innocent. Just like you know that I'm not a ho. That it's just me having fun. I'm not really like that" Jason agrees She's jealous of our friendship. "It's not like you are even paying attention to me. You're out there with the guys getting all buff for the girls out there" Some reference to Roddy and their relationship. Jason says "I don't want to crowd you." "You can crowd me any time you want" She repeats that and goes on to say that Roddy is the most understanding guy. Jason talks of just wanting to get along with everyone and reaching out to Amy to help her. Chiara refers to her role as like that of Winnie Cooper from "The Wonder Years" (the innocent temptress?) He agrees enthusiastically and says she even looks like her. Jason says "I was a bad guy this week." "Why, what happened?" It comes out that he voted against Tonya. "I won't hold it against you" What changed your vote. He won't answer, but says that he would have voted differently when she was first put up. "Oh, I know you deviant little bugger. You made a deal with the devil. Just like Roddy" They talk of voting each outer out and of saving each other. "But you'll still come to NY to visit." "Oh, sure" Chiara wants to show him off to her friends in NY "This is my little virgin. Mine"

Jul 27 2002 03:53, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4641				Link
E/R..what if.....
R: If M puts up Ja and Jo next week. You've given your word to both, what do you do if you get the veto. E: Don't use it, tell them both they're safe, lie to one. They agree it would be Josh they'd vote out.

Jul 27 2002 03:54, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4644				Link
Roddy and Eric BOTH go into the WC, (assume) both were going at the same time.

Jul 27 2002 04:08, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4650				Link
Last feedscan of the night...
F1&2: Eric and Roddy in the HT, smoking cigars. Game talk. Josh. F3&4: Chiara, Dani, and Lisa sitting in Papasans. Chi talking about Amy going after for the sex thing again. Josh trashing. Same old, same old. Things look like they're going to go this way for a while.

Jul 27 2002 04:11, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4652				Link
The girls (less Amy) are on the patio.
Lisa wanted their opinions about something that has been bothering her and she is now ready to talk about it. Apparently Josh came to her and said that he knows that she is upset that he interfered with Lisa and Chiara's goodbye to Tonya. He apologized in his usual Josh fashion. What is bothering Lisa is who told Josh. The girls swear that they didn't tell, and they seem genuinely surprised. All, and particularly Lisa, are PO'd about the breach of trust. They decide that it has to be Roddy, or possibly Eric that told. They trash the guys for a while and wonder what kind of game they are playing with them. They all agree that Josh has to go and that they must work together to protect themselves and get the guys out. Eventually, Dani, the voice of reason suggests that she is sure that whoever told Josh didn't do it out of malicious motives. Lisa has calmed down now and all agree. It is a matter for casual conversation with Eric/Roddy, but not a matter for confrontation. Chiara mentions that "Roddy planted a seed with Josh that he doesn't really trust me. He just wants to see if Josh comes to me with it." Apparently he hasn't done so, yet.

Jul 27 2002 04:26, Sat	HeyGooberPeas	Forum: 072702 Post: 4657				Link
Amy "I AM the villain" (plus source for conspiracy theories) MORE
Amy Marc. and Jason in HRD. Paraphrasing, flavor preserved. A: I've always been the villain. I'm tired of being the villain. (Here's the nugget for the conspiracy theorists) A: They told me before I came in here I would be the villain. A: ... That's why I haven't been trying to be nice around here. I don't care. I AM the villain Laughter. EDIT: Cut to FOTH fairly quickly after the "They" comment.

Jul 27 2002 04:37, Sat	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 072702 Post: 4661				Link
E/R in hot tub. Eric mentions abusing employers credit card NT

Jul 27 2002 04:42, Sat	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 072702 Post: 4667				Link
L/C/D/E/R complain about Diary Room influencing the game FOTH NT

Jul 27 2002 04:46, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4668				Link
Cycling the Feeds: Last for tonight
F 3 & 4: Hot Tub: Eric/Roddy is strongly questioning the disclosure of the DR conversation to Roddy/Eric. He is not really questioning that it happened, but is outraged at the violation of privilege. The DR is supposed to be private. (If the DR disclosure didn't happen, if it is just someone's plot to stir things up, they are likely to be busted if Eric/Roddy goes in to complain about it). FOTH There was no veto last year. This year is much more random. Roddy/Eric thinks the old way is best. With the veto, both people put up by the HoH could end up being saved. Interestingly, he also says, "that's great, you can break up the couples right away" F 1 & 2: The girls still on the patio. Trashing Amy now. "I hope she just sh*ts when she sees the tapes" Dani reports that Amy has told her that she doesn't think anyone will talk to her when she comes back for the finale. Chiara says that "Amy isn't playing the game, she's just being mean" "She says and does mean things even when it doesn't mean anything, when it isn't even about the game" Back to Josh bashing. Dani reports that Josh came at her hard one day. (the night in the bathroom when she was playing cards). Dani was strong that night and handled Josh well, but her re-telling of it now makes it much a larger and longer confrontation, and makes her much stronger than really happened. She is setting herself up as a strong leader for them. F 3 & 4, still the HT: Roddy is saying "I kind of have a little juice right now." (I didn't catch what gave him the juice, but a few things have apparently happened recently to give him that juice. Is this the same thing that he couldn't tell Eric before because he just wouldn't be able to keep it secret) "The middle weeks are the toughest." New alliances are formed and old ones break down. "His (Josh's) unquenchable thirst for security" will kill him. Roddy goes through a lot of combinations, and in all Josh is the first to go. If Gerry gets Josh off (bubbles - damn HT) Now damn FOTH

Jul 27 2002 05:09, Sat	Kat	Forum: 072702 Post: 4671				Link
foth.........nt

Jul 27 2002 05:38, Sat	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 072702 Post: 4674				Link
R/C in bed Rod retelling story about diary room telling him Amy said Chiara uses her sexuality to manipulate Jason NT

Jul 27 2002 05:47, Sat	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 072702 Post: 4675				Link
F3 Eric trying to explain to Lisa why he told Josh why she was mad. Lisa explaining why she was upset about it. NT

Jul 27 2002 06:06, Sat	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 072702 Post: 4677				Link
F1 Roddy profusely throwing compliment to Chiara...Whoops...he got her bikini color wrong NT

Jul 27 2002 06:39, Sat	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 072702 Post: 4679				Link
F1 Lights Out. Chiara listening to headphones. FOTH ?? NT

Jul 27 2002 06:47, Sat	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 072702 Post: 4680				Link
F3 Commercial F4 Camera on Amy. E/L posistioning for sleep NT

Jul 27 2002 09:09, Sat	Basileus	Forum: 072702 Post: 4694				Link
Eric has a morning tent, just in case you were wondering. LOL NT

Jul 27 2002 09:23, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 072702 Post: 4702				Link
F4 - G up brushing teeth

Jul 27 2002 09:53, Sat	InsaneBlonde	Forum: 072702 Post: 4713				Link
All feeds only showing hamsters sleeping........nt

Jul 27 2002 11:26, Sat	Quench	Forum: 072702 Post: 4765				Link
F4 long shot of Amy in Bed looks like a wet spot on the blanket NT

Jul 27 2002 11:29, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 072702 Post: 4769				Link
M waking feed 1...finally some movement! nt

Jul 27 2002 11:35, Sat	Quench	Forum: 072702 Post: 4774				Link
F3 Gerry is up using W/C and washed his hands quickly (more inside)
Goes into Kitchen Makes himself something to drink and we are privledge to hear his explusions of gas from the lower half. Went outside and the cameras desperately try to find him. he's folding towels.

Jul 27 2002 11:38, Sat	avichaiyl	Forum: 072702 Post: 4780				Link
Roddy gets up to pee (more)
Goes back to HOH room, where Ch is asleep. Wakes her up to tell her how cold it is in there. She agrees. Asks her if she wants his robe? She declines. He puts on a shirt and his robe and then climbs back into bed. So concern over a cold woobie. Woobie i've figured is her blanket from childhood. Talk of how Woobie is a survivor (ie the cold) and being buried with woobie when she and/or they die. Snuggling they go back to sleep a few minutes and woobie apparently gets outside the massive covers again. Ch sits up to look for it, and finds it. Says that Woobie is cold (personafying it). Ch says something about kids having their woobies. R asks if she had more than one, I think Ch said she just had this one. posting

Jul 27 2002 11:41, Sat	Melly	Forum: 072702 Post: 4783		Parent	Root	Link
It's that Roddy? NT

Jul 27 2002 11:45, Sat	Quench	Forum: 072702 Post: 4789				Link
r/c in HOH F1 (more inside)
R gets up and hands c a terry robe. she puts it on. He then gets himself a robe. c:It's like we are poor and it's winter and we can't afford the heat. r:I like it cold but this is like ludicrous speed. r crawls back into bed R: it's like a survival situation C: yes it is like a survival situation then they cuddle R: what would it be like if they came in here and found us frozen to death. they are now falling back to sleep

Jul 27 2002 11:56, Sat	Melly	Forum: 072702 Post: 4804				Link
Feed Updates
F1: R/C in HOH room sleeping F2: same as F1 F3: Gerry lying on chair in backyard as dryer runs in the background F4: A sleeping with what looks to be a wet spot on the bed

Jul 27 2002 12:47, Sat	Quench	Forum: 072702 Post: 4838				Link
BB voice this is a lockdown inside NT

Jul 27 2002 13:02, Sat	deVinePoet	Forum: 072702 Post: 4874				Link
Gerry up; making coffee; pulling down the shades; going pee; washes hands..dries them on his pants. nt

Jul 27 2002 13:28, Sat	deVinePoet	Forum: 072702 Post: 4900				Link
Gerry up; playing cards (shuffle shuffle), drinking coffee; sounds of hamster maze being built in backyard. nt

Jul 27 2002 13:46, Sat	Hardy4Me	Forum: 072702 Post: 4921				Link
Camera man keeps going back and forth from Gerry to Jason's pic....hmmmm

Jul 27 2002 13:52, Sat	deVinePoet	Forum: 072702 Post: 4931		Parent	Root	Link
From the sublime to the ridiculous?

Jul 27 2002 13:46, Sat	BlueSeal	Forum: 072702 Post: 4924				Link
Everyone is sleeping except Gerry.
Gerry is playing cards by himself and yawning sometimes. He is bored. Camera 1 shows C and R sleeping next to each other. Amy went to bed early last night and still sleeping it's almost 11am.

Jul 27 2002 13:53, Sat	deVinePoet	Forum: 072702 Post: 4932				Link
ChiaPet and Rodster awake...nt

Jul 27 2002 13:55, Sat	InsaneBlonde	Forum: 072702 Post: 4936				Link
Gerry starting to make breakfast....looks like bacon, eggs and coffee....nt

Jul 27 2002 13:56, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 4938				Link
R/C talk about Johnny. // BB starts to talk about not sharing DR entries
(C and R start to wake up) R: Johnny, how long till you need me in DR C: Johnny C: he ain?t going to tell you how long till you have to go till you get up, hes very very smart. Very very smart R: no hes not C: yes he is R: you like Johnny C: no I don?t hes married and has kids (feed changes to a D awake in bathroom brushing teeth) BB: Roddy, someone said you have a question BB: you have about 45 BB: Good morning, I?ll talk about this to everyone. I want to remind you that we never ever discuss your Diary room with anyone. Hold on (feed is still Danielle brushing her teeth) (very long silence so posting)

Jul 27 2002 14:04, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 4955				Link
D/Ja agree to evict amy / D reassures M
D: you know my pet peeve is the coffee, 6 scoops is the right way to do it, 2 scoops per 2 cups M: so did roddy come to you and tell you what you were doing D: I did not no, he did not tell me M: did you know Jason Ja: I had heard possibilities throught he house rumors, but I did not know, I was actually happy it wasn?t me M; what are you doing with the voting D: I?m sorry but you have to stay M: Jason what about you Ja: I would vote to evict amy, M: you will Ja; well right now, I don?t see anything changing it now, but all I can tell you is right now D: you got my vote, you got chiara, and eric, and you got Jason, that?s all people that keep their word, and that?s all you need, and I told them you ain?t seen me mad and if you go this week I will descend with all of my wrath M: oh my D: I?m trusting their words, and that?s all I can do, ok (D leaves) Ja; shes e f Hudson, when she talks everyone listens M: I honestly believe that what amy has done is not worse than what gerry has done and what josh has done, josh is a cheater M: gerry is very devious, but I don?t think anyone but josh has flat out, straight up cheated (last weeks food comp I guess?) M: jason I want you to know I would never come after you Ja; thank you M: I mean I don?t believe in putting up sacrificial lambs, I put up tonya because she also needed to go, she had her own agenda, I wore this shirt to advertise this plastic surgeoun because of a deal?well that?s fine? (FOTH)

Jul 27 2002 14:04, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4956				Link
Marc asks Dani and jason if they knew how the noms were going to go down. (more)
Both deny knowing it. Both sat Roddy didn't come to them. Jason says he picked up on it from things said around the house, but that he was "sweatin' it" - he always thinks he might go up. He then asks what they're going to do with the vote. Both says they're going to vote out Amy. D asks Ma if he wants to stay, he says he does. She reassures him that he is staying, breaks down votes. Dani says she's told them (the remaining 6), that she'll go after them if they go back on what they said and put M out - talks about how angry she'll be. M ells Jason that he's never use him in a nomination as a sacrificial lamb. FOTH

Jul 27 2002 14:15, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 4978				Link
M/D/Ja is a formal group now // Jason on Josh
Ja; the reason it is so difficult for me to align is that at some point you will have to vote against them or put them up on the block if I was hoh, and that?s a tough thing, but to certain points in the game you have to watch people?s back, like d has your back, I see that and I know that. It might be a very good strategic thing, and find it encourageing that you would say you want me apart of whats going on, but certainly lets work together. M: be?.umm?..play this out in many different ways, but in the end I see that unless its me, you and D that it would end up R, E at the end, they are wildcards Ja; that?s something that?s interesting M: I don?t see them as bad, hes a firefighter and roddys smart, so I don?t mind that, but it would offend me if josh happens Ja: strange things happen, but I don?t see them giving it to him, they did things in the house that are not part of the game, josh has attacked gerry, I was most shocked when you offered him the power of veto box to be civil and he turned it down, I mean who will be his next target after gerry leaves, hes turned it around this week but its to late M: this game is crazy Ja: yeah M: I?ve been so close to tears so many times, I was bawlin in DR with amy yesterday which is weird, because its just a game, it?s a summer vacation where your playing and having a fun time, I knew it wasn?t going to be easy, but at that moment I was devesated, I was like?? (FOTH) Ja: if we go down we are going to go down well, and in a great way, we will fight it the whole way down M: exactly (jason unzipping a suitcase is covering up the conversation) M: I?m goin to get a shower really quick (leaves the room) M: oh hi danielle you are right, about when people go and bring your batteries and start opening right next to you with all the noise, rip M: so do we have veto challenge, we didn't get a rehearsal or anything Ja; well they have been really easy in the past, the shooting, and the block game, so it will probably be easy (M goes to bathroom area) M: how are you today Jo: pretty good, i had a good dream for the first time in the house

Jul 27 2002 14:16, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 4982				Link
M complains about "that awful fake orchid," He hides it in the cabinet, says, "Sorry, it offends my delicate sensibility." NT

Jul 27 2002 14:22, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 4991				Link
Dani, Jason & Marc in HRD. Dani starts out lecturing on how to properly make coffee.
Marc asks her, "so Roddy came to you, and what?" Dani says no, he didn't come to her. It is never clear how she comes to know, but Dani assures Marc that Amy is going and she is sure. He asks who are you voting for, and Dani says "you got ta stay". Jason is asked, and after a pause, he says something to the effect that at the moment, it's Amy (that goes). Marc says good, I want to stay" Dani says "Do you?" "Yes, I want to stay." Dani says "Good. You have me and Jason, you have Chiara and Eric. You only need 4 votes to stay. You're staying" He seems to relax somewhat. Dani says they have promised. All we have to go on in here is our word. She says to the house at large, if you guys betray us "I wil come down on you guys . . .the wrath . . ." All laugh and make appropriate shake in the boots sounds, and life in the HRD returns to normal. Marc starts to talk about his vote to Tonya and her being here for different reasons than the rest. "It's all about product placement with her." About her T-shirt for a plastic surgeon (there were a couple of brief FOTH's and sound breaks in here, then the camera starts going to other rooms of sleeping HG's.

Jul 27 2002 14:23, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 4992				Link
G makes pancakes // Morning talk
G: hey dude, I got your bacon and your flapjacks R: nice ger, they are a few of my favorite things (marcellas is in kitchen, skipped shower from last update I guess) L: gerry how many scoops did you put G: 3, not strong enough D: not strong enough, it has to put the hair on your chest Jo: yeah look what it did for me D: yeah I want to look like joshie R: your guns are growing baby D: look at you, did you do that shoulder workout the other day R: yeah M; what the hell is going on, I really thought it was BB p[utting it back where it belongs R: need this for your coffee (m dusting stuff) D: m here is your tea, with (something) in it M: thanks Jo: this is so inside out (takes his shirt off to turn it to the right side) R: how are eggs a dairy product, what cow makes a egg D: yeah I thought they were meat group G: depends on what food chart you look at D: oh D: can I have some of that please (josh has fixed his shirt and reattached his mic) M: that?s a various glamourous backpack I don?t have a backpack D: ambiance R: wow I like this bacon G; I used to get up as dad and fix a waffle breakfast for them sometimes and orange koolaid and worst waffles ever. D: the coffec scooper, has anyone seen it. Gerry, have you seen the coffee scooper G: no I couldn?t find it D: we must have thrown it away with the old container G: maybe D: 2,4,6,8,10,and 12 cups of coffee, yummy yummy in my tummy R: yumah (gerry cooking more pancakes for others, they all seem to like them) C: have you ever been to the real tower records M: yeah I spent a lot of my life there, my friend lived on mulberry so I statyed there until I started staying on prince C: you spent most your time there then G: these are for josh can you give them to him, I cannot server him C: sure C: (sings ?you got to make it happen?) R (something low) D: thank you

Jul 27 2002 14:25, Sat	AMYGEE	Forum: 072702 Post: 4997				Link
R to A "Do you want some coffee? Do you want to stab me in the eye" n/t

Jul 27 2002 14:29, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5005				Link
E/L snuggle, start to kiss. R brings in coffee. He leaves. Now L is lying on top of E, kissing I think. R comes back in looking for A....
Asking her if she wants coffee. Lisa gets up. R says "This is interesting." They ask how he slept, he said okay, but it was cold. Talking about Amy waking up grumpy. M comes in. Amy says she's not unhappy, she just hates waking up, period. Amy saying she has no reason to get up. She's going home, "nobody likes me anyway." Lisa tells her M could have felt like that, but didn't and turned things around when he was on the chopping block. Lisa and E up and getting dressed. Amy still in bed, grumbling about being cold.

Jul 27 2002 14:31, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5008				Link
Eric and Lisa in bed. Roddy brings in coffee and there are appropriate thank you's.
Roddy says "Amy, do you want a coffee" "Um hum" Amy, do you want to poke me in the eye" "Um Hum" "OK, you can poke me in the eye after coffee" Various chit-chat, including Lisa saying "at least your hair looks nice" Later, as Roddy is leaving, Amy says, "It's not in the eye, it's in the heart" Some chit-chat "I don't care I don't want to get up . No body likes me and I don't want to go out there" You have to get up. Marcellas got up" Later, "Burrr, how can it be so dad gummed cold?"

Jul 27 2002 14:38, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5021				Link
Amy comes in the HRD wrapped in a blanket, eating bacon. Gerry comes by, she thanks him for it, says "I love fried Babe." NT

Jul 27 2002 14:43, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5033				Link
Someone (one of the boys?) singing. M says into his mic, "BB please make them stop." M talks about needing an eye job. (more)
He tells the internet folks, says he should get something out fo this. Amy says she's going to pout in the kitchen, try to steal a bite of food. M goes to make tea. Lots of talking in the LR. Feed switches to Kiki in the shower, now to Lisa and Josh sitting in the green chairs talking.

Jul 27 2002 14:44, Sat	Kat	Forum: 072702 Post: 5039				Link
Marcellus telling A he needs to have his eyes done when he is "sequestered" upon leaving the house. NT

Jul 27 2002 15:00, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 072702 Post: 5075		Parent	Root	Link
M referring to being "sequestered" supports the rumor that another AS surprise will be an option to vote evictee back! NT

Jul 27 2002 14:47, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5047				Link
Roddy on Unendangered Endangered Fish // D on wanting G to start lifting weights
D: yeah but you don?t eat swordfish R: yeah my main reason though its its endangered D: well you didn?t tell me R: well you can go to this national webpage I have marked that show it as endangered, as fish censuses are hard to find, so these are fish that are expected to be endangered but because the real studies only go to their normal homes they find a lot so think its not endangered. So this site gives you all the ones that you shouldn?t order because they really are endangered even though they aren?t on the list and swordfish is on there. It?s a really good to look at it first. And if you say they are already dead why not order it, its because you are making a market for them G: supply and demand BB:: Attention HG the storage room is now offlimits R: that guy says such random things when he comes on M: storage room storage room storage room (all of them are saying in words that end in * shown* playstation style D: gerry you will have to hit weights, its good that you started on cardio, but now you have to add in weights R: yeah you will work off more calories that way D: yeah its time G: ok, I?m there D: I had a friend at work who, um, she, she wasn?t like big, she had problems areas, her hips, she runs 2 times a day, I was like are you doing weights, she was like I do cardio, but I was like you have to do weights, I took her on a wed cause I figured she would be cursing me by Sunday, well after a month she was slopping away, she just got smaller and smaller and smaller. (foth)

Jul 27 2002 15:00, Sat	OreoKing	Forum: 072702 Post: 5074				Link
L says E was talking about Chi in his sleep last night. R says there was a 25 second earthquake about then.NT

Jul 27 2002 15:07, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5090				Link
On BB2 and 9-11 // D on graduating high school and her grandmother
BB: HG, you may now enter the storage room Ja; yo may now enter the storage room G: you may now enter the storage room (game show host voice) G: lets go see whats in there (G leaves, feed stays on amy, switching to see if I can find SR) (missed a bit, as feed crashed) R: how could they not tell them about 9-11 how do they know they didn?t know anyone near there D: monicas cousing died in that L: oh was she the first D: no she was third L: no I mean first to find out D: they didn?t? tell them D(tells a short story about a friend) R: at my old job, if we didn?t have your ids with you then you had to go, R(leaves) C: he didn?t wash his hands E: you can bust his balls but guys just don?t always think about it, I?ll probably forget sometimes Jo(starts doing the zoolander poses) R: look at me like you have a secret Jo: look at me, I?m mr penis (threatens to open towel but don?t) E: everyone out there is like no no D: no no (lisa in shower now) R: so my grandfather steps up and nails it down the fairway and looks right into camera and says that?s clean livening boys D: did he R: yeah 90 years old and he just goes clean liviiung boys D: I had a (something) that died and the other one was terminally ill so I don?t know about setting on grandpa?s lap or anything. I knew my grandmother. I remember when I graduated high school and that was huge as no one thought hat would happen as everything that was going on, but I took a lot of extra classes and she flew in to see my graduation (lost connection again)

Jul 27 2002 15:19, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5103				Link
Pre-show Sequestering Happenings // More Johnny talk // Innuendo girl
E: they brought me a playboy internet thing and I got to watch fireworks on tv R: internet playboy I brought that and gave it to them and said give it to another guy as I had already been through it D: how come we couldn?t have the newspapers R: I was such a pest, they let me read the newspaper after they checked to make sure there wasn?t any articles D: they wouldn?t? tell me who won wimbeldon C: they let me watch cnn when I worked out R: they made me turn it off C: if I didn?tr know what was going on in the world I?d kill myself E: that gym was the worst f***ing gym D the one at the hotel E: yeah the treadwheel friction was horrible R: oh that?s woodstocky with the starts and freedome thing, that?s woodstocky C: I?m not a hippy child, C: john R; you have a crush on john C: yeah E: you can tell a lot about a person by their toothbrush if the bristles are to the side its like they are brushing a wall, their teeth are hard L: I like it hard E: oh sexual innuendo girl, eh E: I think once in a whilie are fine L: I like my teeth, how are your teeth D: I honestly think if my teeth were in your mouth they would be same color, they are just that brownish

Jul 27 2002 15:28, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5122				Link
12:30 update: bathroom
It's bathroom time. Josh is doing his teeth and talking about Amy saying "I'm so gone". Dani is singing and talking to him. He says it didn't put him in a great place to hear Amy upset. Awww. Dani tells him he has to play the game. They are saying that everyone has agreed not to use a veto. Jo says some people have gotten good at latching on to the HoH person. Dani says she never takes anything for granted, every week she survives. Lisa comes in, they fall silent.

Jul 27 2002 15:31, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5128				Link
Dani teaches Roddy/Eric how to use a sanitary napkin (where has he been). Roddy/Eric suggests that the competition has something to do with golf. N/

Jul 27 2002 15:35, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5134				Link
Amy, Amy and Amy // Speculation that todays veto challenge is Putt-Putt // A Few Good HGs
Ja: the three time champ right here A: I?m a champ at this game too, I hope amy and amy are watching Ja: whose that A: I college I had two friends that were amy and amy so wer were amy and amy and amy. We had birthdays June 10,20,30. and my middle name was the same as one of them. They would say we were joking when we would say were are amy amy amy and our birthdays are june 10,20,30, we would show ids, but they would say they are fake, and we would be like why would we have fake ids for being 19 Ja; so which is your birthday A: june 10 Ja; so you?re the first A: yeah I was the first A: whats wrong with josh there, must have a ear malfuction for that one (haha0 A; that?s ok, I didn?t see my last card so I?m going to move it (someone keeps whistling a tune in background) (now a group singing in background) A; oh that?s horrible (not sure if that?s to singing or cards) A; I?m pretty good at this game Ja; one more hand then I?m out A: yeah I have to change my clothes and maybe some sleepy time Ja; sounds good to me, putt putt 8, that?s what he said right something about minature golf G: yeah and something about pool, so probably putt putt A: yeah I like putt putt I could do that Ja (something about the cards) A: your just mad cause I keep winning M: ooh do I hear friction at that table A: yes 3 in a row, i kick a** Jo: 3 up then 3 down eh Ja; yeah wild eh, i think thats cause she cheats A: i don't cheat now all they will show is you saying I cheat Ja; no you don't cheat, i'm sorry A: i can't handle it Ja; i want the truth A/Ja; you can't handle the truth Ja; thats a great movie, you need me on that wall (FOTH)

Jul 27 2002 15:41, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5145				Link
Brief shot of workmen in the yard. It does look like a golf competition on the Bball court. Did Roddypeak? N/T

Jul 27 2002 15:48, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5162				Link
The Hgs have been given their Subway lunch. Close-up of Subway wrappers. The boys eating in the LR, talking about how awful Raiders fans are. NT

Jul 27 2002 15:52, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5173				Link
The girls and Gerry eating at the table. D/C/L have salads. D gives Amy her cheese. Lots of eating, not much talking. NT

Jul 27 2002 15:59, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5179				Link
Eric and Jason talk about tipping. Jason always tips at least 20%, often over tips. Eric agrees - it's good karma. NT

Jul 27 2002 16:11, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5187				Link
F3: Eric bandaging Lisa's injured toe. NT

Jul 27 2002 16:19, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5199				Link
Gerry, a dining room table, says "All of this is predictable. I guess that is what I'm upset about. . . .
Petty bourgeois" Marc complaining about the lettuce not being romaine. Gerry complaining that hasn't seen his boys in a month, haven't seen my wife in a month, haven't seen my daughter . . . He also misses his dog(s). (Guess how long since he has seen them). Gerry leaves and Dani comes in to say something to Marc about Amy (perhaps about her threatening to leave) Marc replies "We were talking about doing that for dramatic effect". A little later there is an exchange at the sink between Marc and Dani. She laughs and says "Jesus lord" as he walks away. Didn't hear it. Amy comes in complaining "Honey when are you going to put some clothes on" "When I have to play that game." Camera switches to Bathroom and Amy doing makeup in mirror. She apologizes to Jason for being in his way "Just part of my selfish nature".

Jul 27 2002 16:21, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5202				Link
Amy decks out, chewing, singing , first glimpse of veto game and more
Dani asks Mar if he and Amy are going to quit. Marc says they'd discussed doing it for "dramatic effect." Lots of noisy chewing going on. I'm hearing Dani crack up, don't know why. She's washing dishes. Amy in the bathroom is putting on her makeup. She says she's going to be late, "part of her inconsiderate nature". Jason assures her she looks great. She breaks into song. FOTH and we're back to watching Dani now cleaning the kitchen, while Amy cackles off feed. Jason says today will fly past as it's already noon. They're trying to figure out what time it is. Jason talks about the time needed to setup and tear down the games. The feed goes outside: we see a mallet, ball, and... a racked set of pool balls on the lawn. It looks like there's a tube leading from the racked balls down to the pool. Also saw something that looked like apartment mailboxes. Then a close-up of the Veto necklace.

Jul 27 2002 16:22, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5205				Link
BB: Roddy, please come to DR R: Lets get this thing on the road (NO TEXT)

Jul 27 2002 16:27, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5209				Link
Lisa and Jason in bathroom speculating on the time. Lisa says "I'm thinking 12:30, 1 o'clock (it is 1:20).
Some chat about the length of the lock down and the lock down after the competition. "They clean up pretty fast." Lots of camera shots of the yard showing the layout and zooming in and out on the veto medallion in it's box. Also zooming on a score board with all their names. Roddy called to the DR He says "Let's get this thin on the road" He is assuming it will be his briefing for the competition. We see him enter the DR then FOTH, but without the music. Opps, there it is. Back to the living room and Eric. Lisa briefly walked through. Eric says "Lets put on some flip-flops and keep that bed clean." A laugh as a response, and she is gone. Long quiet shot of Eric on couch, now switch to bathroom and the girls doing last minute fix-up.

Jul 27 2002 16:36, Sat	deVinePoet	Forum: 072702 Post: 5217				Link
Marcellus talking about 'sniff test'...changed feeds. nothing else on. turned down sound. nt

Jul 27 2002 16:42, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5227				Link
Eric/Roddy says, "Any one want vitamins? . . . Girls? . . . Chiara?" "No thanks"
Chiara asks Marc if he gives BJ's Some discussion ensues about condoms, etc. Now she asks about the finger test and Lisa asks "do you do that surreptitiously, or just say Bend Over?" Now talk of the "sniff test" and if it ever comes out clean. Lisa says "Oh ya, sometimes." Marc agrees. Some discussion of movies and Academy Awards nominations for some actress. (I didn't care). Chiara comes back to the sniff test and what happens if it fails. There's something to be said about ketchup on your hot dog, but s**t on your d**k". (this stuff doesn't shock or bother me, I just don't care) Marc now complaining about "Queer as Folk" That it is unreal, that the boys get to f**king to soon and easy. Chiara questions that you said sometimes that happens, in that one district you talked about" (again, I don't care) "Roddy is taking a long time in there" Gerry lectures about the weather and the marine layer on the coastal plain" (did I mention that I don't care?) Marc speculates that maybe he should be celibate when he gets out. Chiara says "definitely" Marc comments that "If I get that one handler, it's all over" (speaking of sequestering) FOTH

Jul 27 2002 16:46, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5232				Link
Chess playing, BSing before Veto still...
Marc says if there were 2 gay guys in the house, they'd have "done it" by now just because. LOL! He says sex doesn't matter as much to men as it does women… then goes on to say the other guy couldn't be fat, had to be aesthetically pleasing. Marc says he did dishes and cleaned the bathroom. Loudly he says this after someone thanked Dani for doing the dishes. Roddy is still in the DR.

Jul 27 2002 16:53, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5235				Link
Marc says he has more respect for women than for men. (I missed a funny follow-on to that statement, did anyone else catch it?) "
"If there were two gay boys in the house they would already have done it." "Unless one was really fat" Eric makes a comment about "who was it who said that if he was HoH he wouldn't spend all that time in the DR getting instructions?" Marc replies that once you are in there . . . (I didn't catch the rest, but it was an excuse/explanation) I switched to F3, but still the same group. Some movie talk. Marc refers to Tanya Roberts in "Charlies Angels" and the shot of her cleavage on the top of the car. There seems to be agreement that it was in the first episode she did. Must be a combination of favourite TV shows and sexy stars/sexy scenes - can't follow because of the regular interruptions for FOTH (Plus I don't care)

Jul 27 2002 17:01, Sat	ktan	Forum: 072702 Post: 5242				Link
Back from FOTH, lizard cam on all feeds. BB occasionally heard clarifying rules of veto comp. nt

Jul 27 2002 17:05, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5246				Link
Longish FOTFH now the lizard cam with some production crew talk off camera.
Is this to tell us we aren't going to see the competition, and to rub it in? "Lets do that last line again , please. Then we're going to go to the game." "Actually hang on a second. Any Questions? Anyone?" There is only the BB voice, no HG sounds at all.

Jul 27 2002 17:08, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5249				Link
To answer my own question, they are playing the game now and we are not seeing it. Or hearing it. N/T

Jul 27 2002 17:11, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5252				Link
Audio of BB during Comp up to second shot
(lizard cam, outdoor audio) BB: that is the corner pocket BB: as long as any ball lands in other than your own BB: step back BB: please just read that last line again, then we will go into the game. With roddy breaking BB: ok any questions, if your ball lands in the pool you are out BB: mark off your score by your name and stand in the waiting area BB: eric please take off the rack and then wait over there BB: you make cheer on, cajole, or jive the other players BB: ok so last line again, ask eric to rmove the rack, ask everyone to move off the board and break BB: just the last line about everyone ending up all wet, yeah BB: ok hold on, ok guys everyone shift to your left, lisa should be where josh just was, everyone left, meaning the whole line moves down, that?s it, keep moving, there we go BB: Lets play pool shark BB: yes I need you to call a pocket, that?s fine, next time call a pocket BB: first BB: ok first person goes to back of line, next person can line up however they want

Jul 27 2002 17:35, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5275				Link
Audio Continued of Veto Competition
(feed is still lizards, but I can hear BB when they talk) (lot of cheering outside) BB: alright guys, there are tape and scisors under that board, please use that do do a quick fix it job BB: ok actually they are in that drawer with the cigar cutter, after the ball is fixed, replace it where it was knocked and broken BB: Eric theres a new mike for you, go on and get it now, Marcellas can you hold up your for now please. Just leave your old mic on the table, sorry to do that. BB: hold up on (missed a word) for a minute BB: Dani, just a reminder, while I don?t need you to call the pocket anymore, I do need you to call the houseguest. BB: Guys just a reminder again, call your shots BB: nah wait wait wait, nah off the ramp, off the ramp, (holds back a laugh kinda), pull it back behind the bumper. BB: come on, watch your step please BB: you got to place it?anywhere in there BB: lisa mark the board

Jul 27 2002 17:51, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5281				Link
Remainder of Audio: BB: Thats fair....BB: Call it....Audio died (NO TEXT)

Jul 27 2002 18:07, Sat	ktan	Forum: 072702 Post: 5292				Link
Applause heard. Pool sharks over, now lockdown in effect. nt

Jul 27 2002 18:16, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5305				Link
F3&4 following Eric. Gerry says something about not being able to ignore him(Eric) now. I *think* Eric won POV. NT

Jul 27 2002 18:23, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5312				Link
F3 on Amy eating. Gerry, Josh in room talking about the game being hard. Eric (off camera) says he's definitey getting on tv. Amy claps for him. N

Jul 27 2002 18:26, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5313				Link
Amy and Josh talk....
Amy says she doesn't mind going, just doesn't like they way it's happening. Josh talks about Marc. Amy says she doesn't blame him for wanting to stay. She says she's ready to go home. Amy asking Josh if he got the spiel in the DR about people saying that the DR was sharing what went on in there. Josh says he's clueless.

Jul 27 2002 18:29, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5316				Link
DR told Amy not to discuss DR business...
Amy got in a talking-to for discussing the DR things. For someone saying they got info from dr. Now she is talking about walking again. She wants to "stir the [censored]" before she leaves. Gerry says it's down to HoH this week, him, Marc, dani would be good but not the Gang of 4 or they're all dead. Amy agrees vehemently. She's sick of the looking at it. She gets more attention at home. Gerry says that in this environment that's not going to happen. (no, there are 50 cams missing there.) He says he's used to authority and control and has none. She says they're all control freaks. Gerry adds that's why he made breakfast. If it gets down to Gang of 4 he says, will get interesting. Amy says she's happy she'll be in front of her TV when she finds out.

Jul 27 2002 18:30, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5318				Link
Feeds back in back BR as Amy enters and says ". . . home for the day, this is where I shall remain"
Gerry says he feels sorry for Marc. "he wants to go home" "Oh, I know he does" They think they all want to go home. Gerry says "as I watch the people I have the most in common with go 1 by 1" Um hum" More of the same until Gerry says "The only hope would be if Josh decides . . " Feed switches to kitchen. Josh into Storage Room, Says something about "oh, new flavour?" He hauls stuff out but camera stays on Store Room door. Various opening bag noises. Someone is on the couch with his legs crossed. Eric exits the Store Room as Chiara enters to put something back. Eric into the back BR to care for the lizards. Apparently the cage is dirty and stinky. Gerry is on his bed. When Eric entered, Gerry said something about "you got on the show". Eric remarks that his name has not officially been said on the show (Is he the veto holder?) More talk about lizard care and feeding. Eric leaves and feed switches to HoH with Roddy and Josh. Josh has been promoting something. Roddy says "who cares, 1 of the 3 is out" Josh backs off and leaves. Roddy got up and went to the door (was he locking it). Camera to Back BR with Gerry and Josh on their beds. Amy is off camera. Talking about the game and what was right and what was wrong. Something said about Gerry going to the DR. "Oh, thank you" and he gets up to go. (No BB announcement, so it must have been someone coming out and inviting him to go next). Some sound from this room mixed with Roddy and Eric talking somewhere else. They are talking threateningly about someone, but can't follow it. Amy is pissed about the way things worked out. Josh is being supportive and appears to be presenting himself as an outsider because he said something about going against the powers that be (as if he had no part of it) Josh says "I'm being kept clueless by both sides" Gerry strategizing and saying that HoH is critical this week. It's always important, but even more so this week. He goes through who would be good. "Anyone but the gang of 4" Amy agrees. They talk of the lack of control they have and how everyone wants to control the game "we are all control freaks" says Amy.

Jul 27 2002 18:34, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5320				Link
Eric says he's not using his veto NT

Jul 27 2002 18:34, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5319				Link
Roddy and Eric talking about Josh in HOH. They don't trust him. (more)
R talking about Josh lobbying to get Lisa out, trying to get Roddy to go back on the agreement the 6 (5 now) made. Talk about confronting Josh about his breaking promises. Eric saying how much the girls hate Josh. R: This might be the dumbest thing I've said in this whole thing, but I don't think he's playing us. He might try, but he's not. Talk about Josh trying to make deals with Gerry just to save himself. R: He can't stop playing the game. He won't stop for a moment. E: He just gets his nose into too much business. Everyday life is tougher because of him. We shouldn't have to danc around...what's Joshie goin to be like today. R: Let's just do what we planned this week and pray... Talk of who could hurt them next week, the worst case senario. Dani interrupts.

Jul 27 2002 18:36, Sat	Stark	Forum: 072702 Post: 5323				Link
Short talk about use of veto
Eric wants Josh out of hosue because he sticks his nose into way to many areas. Roddy says that Josh will try for anyone including gerry, roddy asks eric who could hurt him next week, eric says only two, gerry and marcellas. They are saying that the best thing to do this week is keep the plan the same and leave noms as is. (e has veto), but they want josh gone within 2 weeks Danielle comes in and starts telling a story about a advertising job.

Jul 27 2002 18:37, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5327				Link
Roddy and Eric in HoH talking about Josh.
They do not seem too happy with him "What better revenge to have on a guy like him than to play him up against . . . (lost the rest) I would just like him out of the house . . . he makes it more difficult on what we are trying to do" "He just never stops playing the game. He's in there with Gerry now, trying to . . . Eric to rod "What's the worst case scenario, who could hurt you?" "Gerry- I just don't trust him. And Marcellas" Dani knocks and enters the conversation changes. She is telling some story about her career and investments. No game talk.

Jul 27 2002 18:58, Sat	avichaiyl	Forum: 072702 Post: 5359				Link
Amy told Marc that she asked the DR ppl about sequestered and the DR ppl got mad/upset
She seems resolved to go home and dove hunt and go to the fair and back with her puppy Bucky. But t he DR won't tell her anything...

Jul 27 2002 19:06, Sat	raffila	Forum: 072702 Post: 5365				Link
HG gather in LR to watch America's Choice tv clip NT

Jul 27 2002 19:06, Sat	avichaiyl	Forum: 072702 Post: 5366				Link
HG's getting ready for America's Choice NFT

Jul 27 2002 19:15, Sat	avichaiyl	Forum: 072702 Post: 5377		Parent	Root	Link
America's Choice convo...
All excited about the America's Choice (Hg hosts a dinner for the date of their choice) Many think Marc will win, but who will he choose, Eric or Roddy. Amy says that he better choose me. Trying to figure out when they will know. Decide it would be Sunday dinner. All plea to outside people to call and vote. Group disperes Eric and Roddy on the court, discussing if it is a "private" moment they will be banging during dinner with Ch or L Now making annoying noises (suey??) posting

Jul 27 2002 19:13, Sat	raffila	Forum: 072702 Post: 5370				Link
Watching the clip (more)
HG excited over the Choice. In fact Josh starts yelling, "Josh and Merritt" while the clip is still running. After it's over they all start shouting. Marc explains that how it works..he first said he wanted Lisa and Kiki as his guests..and someone said, "no threesomes". Roddy (?) and Amy both want the clip replayed. Voice of the House..repeats how it works..and stays "standby". She's going to replay the tape. Yep..it's playing again. (some of the HG said they'd talked about having private catered dinner and this was a super coincidence.) Now they're wondering when this dinner will happen. Tonite? Tomorrow? Course everyone talked at once..so hard to catch who saying "what". Marc speculates that "all the ladies will want to vote, so it'll be one of the girls."

Jul 27 2002 19:15, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5374				Link
HGs hear the america's choice. Josh drowns most of it out screaming "Josh and Merrit." They ask to hear it again.
They speculate about who''l getto go, how it owrks. BB says the winner gets to choose who they eat with, that it has ot be one of the HGs. The tape is played again.

Jul 27 2002 19:20, Sat	avichaiyl	Forum: 072702 Post: 5381				Link
R: Internet crowd likes Josh - 13 to 30 year old men (more)
Says internet people arn't sophisticated. Highschool aged boys watch this etc. Says Marc. doesn't have internet support. M says the "fags" need to get online. <now we all hate Roddy>

Jul 27 2002 19:21, Sat	raffila	Forum: 072702 Post: 5384				Link
Eric opines on internet viewer demographics..who is the internet view favorite? (oh this is rich...more)
ERic in hammock gives his opinion when asked by Rod..who is the most popular with the internet viewer? His reply: Josh. (!) Why? Because he thinks that those watching the feeds are teenage boys. He tells Marc that Marc audience is more sophisticated and wouldn't be watching the internet. Several HG around but no one disagrees.

Jul 27 2002 19:26, Sat	DC1	Forum: 072702 Post: 5395				Link
F2 Rod talking to Eric in hammock says I think Josh will win Amer Choice because most of the internet people are males ages 13-30 and he would (more)
appeal to them because he will say anything to anybody. {Roddy is under the impression that the voting is done on the internet, not too smart now is he} Rod then tells Marc that he (M) wouldn't win it because his crowd is more sophisticated. (?? wtf) Roddy again is saying he only thinks that men age 13-30 watch on the internet. {this guy is clueless} he's talking to Chiara and Eric and Chi ask him who he thinks the top 3 will be. Rod: I think Josh will win it. he goes over his speech about who watches on feeds and would vote on internet again. chi: says it might be Dani cause she likes food so much......

Jul 27 2002 20:50, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 072702 Post: 5495				Link
Back to the house: Jason talking about the lack of stimulation in the house,
about stopping in front of the TV screen just to watch it change. Roddy talks of reading the part of the bible where so-and-so begat so-and so and trying to say the names out loud just to keep his mine active. "I'd rather begat someone than listen to you (Jason) talk" "Go begat yourself" "Begat off" Jason laughs and is quite amused. Roddy is really impressed with himself.

Jul 27 2002 21:04, Sat	Quench	Forum: 072702 Post: 5518				Link
L/C in LR wondering what Tonya is doing and going to Vegas to see her and meeting David NT

Jul 27 2002 21:32, Sat	KimM	Forum: 072702 Post: 5581				Link
F1&2: Lisa and Eric sleeping; F3&4: Jason and Dani playing cards, can see Gerry through the window out back using the glider. NT

Jul 27 2002 21:38, Sat	Scarlett	Forum: 072702 Post: 5588				Link
From tonight's show (spoiler info) Eric's nighttime antics transcribed inside...
Transcribed from Sat. BB3 Eric's sleep talk "They put one in the waterbed but...what? the ocean?" "My tough toes tingle" "Oh, oh really?" "At some point in time. That peanut butter's lined up. There can only be one clump of peanut butter." "Marecellas kissed me on the cheek the other day, you know." "Dang! Nice job guys!" "These guys are like ambidextrous, freaking" "Nadia Comanechi or whatever the hell" "Unless these guys are working on the side" "Go sit. Go sit up. Go sit. Get up. Go do something." "Yeah, I just saw somebody." "I..." "Dammit!" "Sorry!" "I just saw someting I shouldn't have seen." "Shut up!" (I don't know if he said it in his sleep or if someone said it to him) "Good old ass grab." "Eric, you are a freak show" (I don't know if he said it in his sleep or if someone said it to him)

Jul 27 2002 22:11, Sat	Jag	Forum: 072702 Post: 5635		Parent	Root	Link
Any chance you could or would transcribe the roddy nom speech? NT

Jul 27 2002 23:38, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 072702 Post: 5781		Parent	Root	Link
Re: Any chance you could or would transcribe the roddy nom speech? NT
he said he wanted amy out and marcelles would comfort her, something like that.

Jul 27 2002 22:00, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5621				Link
Dani & Marc chatting (long)
Marc in bed. Saying he missed dinner. Dani in with him talking about Amy and how "when she's friends with someone she's really friends with them." He agrees, and then says no matter how she was in the house, her behavior was as destructive as other people in the house. (eh?) Dani talks about Josh. She couldn't figure out someone, so get rid of them. Roddy and Marc talked about threats, Marc told Roddy he was a threat. Now he sees Roddy as really trying to get him out. Dani says she can be diabolical and no one has seen this. I'll eat em up and spit em out. I put things in the bank and I'll getcha, she says. Even Roddy told her he didn't want to see her mad, she adds. She doesn't like when people get picked on, tho she admits she's done it herself. Which takes her to Amy. Marc tells Dani about when he told Roddy to "get the hell away from me and Amy". Dani laughs. Dani keeps on talking about how no one should ever get on her bad side. She thinks she makes Roddy nervous. Marc says one of them needs to win HoH and not go after a couple, but a cute boy. Let them go another week, put Josh and Gerry up (unless they go after them.) Make it clear that they need to clean up the mess made by Gerry and Josh. Marc says he'd put up Roddy and Josh. Major competitor, and if Josh goes, all good.

Jul 27 2002 22:06, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5628		Parent	Root	Link
More Dani and Marc plotting
Marc told Jason he needs to be with (him and Dani). Gerry f*d up, can't trust Josh, three of us need to be together. He also told him the little coalition is about watching each others back, not back stabbing. J had said he felt ambiguous, not in with anyone. Dani wonders if Eric and Roddy will turn on each other. Marc says you can't do the couples unless you do Roddy and Lisa… Dani says and Eric gets Lisa off… that would wreak havoc. I'd do that. Jason knocks, and wonders if anyone is in there.

Jul 27 2002 22:08, Sat	mah	Forum: 072702 Post: 5633				Link
more D & M
D & M plotting how to get rid the couples. One of them has to get HOH next week. Talking about getting jason on their side. M says he talked to him and told him he has to choose a side and since he'll never be part of the couples, he should be on their side.

Jul 27 2002 22:14, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5642				Link
Marc, Dani, Ja in kitchen (more)
Marc says he wishes someone else would be on the block, every damn week isn't fun. LOL! Dani says every week she kisses that keychain. Then they bail to go play games. Dani asks Ja to play chess. Too many rules for him. Josh comes into the kitchen, long food convo begins. Bah!

Jul 27 2002 22:26, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5667				Link
More kitchen follies
Big tea making in kitchen now. Convo centers on Zinger tea. And Gerry comes in, took an antihistamine, says he slept all day. Lisa worried about him. He says he's going to work out. More chatter about sauerkraut. And… sex talk begins. Someone sings, and…. FOTH

Jul 27 2002 22:40, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5695				Link
When the chips are down...
Lisa says hell has a new name, BB3 house PBJ diet. Josh threatens to belt someone and they all laugh. Dani says everything is 5 0 with her. 50 dollars an hour. (!!?!) And they decide to play a card game. Jason begins a long explanation of this game, to Dani. Lisa is plating as well along with Josh. They are discussing Trivial Pursuit. Lisa says it drives her nuts. Dani tells a repulsive story about someone who doesn't wash after the bathroom, and Josh tops it with a dude who comes out and wipes his MOUTH. Arg. Now they're talking about Gerry not washing again, and confronting him again. Lisa says he thinks just water cleans him. Others are getting worried about this. And now they say he double-dipped in the hummus, too. Jason says he tries to stay oblivious, kiki says you couls sh1t in these chips and I'd eat them. LOL

Jul 27 2002 23:36, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5780				Link
Hold on to the night
Jason asks everyone to tell him if he has things hanging out of his nose. They move right along to gnawing on a hemorrhoid. Jason claims he knows nothing about roids. It's time to crank the hot-tub. The game continues. Lots of singing now. "Hold on to the Night". And FOTH

Jul 27 2002 23:57, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 072702 Post: 5812				Link
Un-FOTH and squeals
UnFOTH at last. Dani and Kiki are in the hammock, Roddy is squirting something at the pool. Lots of giggles. Kiki says "this will sound crazy" and she didn't want this to happen, not here. She says it's like he's… and I missed the word. Both are laughing as Roddy walks past. He finally comes over and asks what's happening. They are now muttering and squealing.

Jul 28 2002 00:34, Sun	Scarlett	Forum: 072702 Post: 5859		Parent	Root	Link
This was in response to Roddy telling her if she wanted to sit on one of the HT jets and finish...
what she started last night, he could sit and watch her all night long to which she responded that she didn't want that to happen in the house. Then she said if she were to do that, it would take a long, long time and she would prefer to be alone. Roddy said when he saw those four girls facing out the tub and "playing" with the jets, he was really, really pleased and amazed that he had stumbled onto something like that in the house.

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