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Jul 31 2002 00:30, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10188				Link
Roddy gets pantsed
Chiara just ran outside and tried to pull down Roddy's pants. He saw her coming and prepared for whatever she might do to him (her body language gave away the fact that she was up to something) so she wasnt too successful, but we did get a quick butt shot, and Gerry said he saw some 'pubes'. Roddy was holding a hose at the time, so he squirted her with it, and she fell down. She ran back inside and said she thought she hurt herself. She wondered if Jason would try to pull Roddy's pants down for her sometime, and he said 'that aint happenin'.

Jul 31 2002 00:40, Wed	deVinePoet	Forum: 073102 Post: 10211				Link
Amy and Marcellus talk
M is trying to make Amy understand that maybe the reason it's going to be a unanimous vote against her is that SHE caused it to be. Amy not getting the point. She wants one vote (she says she's got it) so she won't be embarrassed when she gets home. Gerry walked in and sat down even though it looked private. After- M confronted Gerry about being the one vote. Gerry said he is NOT the one vote for Amy.

Jul 31 2002 00:49, Wed	deVinePoet	Forum: 073102 Post: 10241				Link
Boys in Hot Tub
Talking about the Amy vote. Jason is adament that he won't vote for Amy to stay. It will be unanimous. They all are saying she has come to them looking for a sympathy vote and if they aren't together on this she'll get enough votes to stay.

Jul 31 2002 00:51, Wed	deVinePoet	Forum: 073102 Post: 10248				Link
More Hot Tub Talk
Talking about the games they are playing: BB make the veto games easier so if someone wants to throw it they can...but HOH games are harder to throw - blindfolded they can't see if they are ahead or not. Veto competition gives away a lot - HOH is random - a lot less people trying to throw the game because the longer they go on, the more they all want it.

Jul 31 2002 00:56, Wed	deVinePoet	Forum: 073102 Post: 10257				Link
Marcellus in shower
ChiaPet and Dani come in and ask what's up. M is upset that Amy says she has one vote. (he is concerned that Amy is trying to campaign to stay) Dani and Chia both say they are not voting for Amy to stay. M seems very mad about this. D and Chia talking that they are concerned that this could backfire if Amy gets enough people to give her a sympathy vote. Chia said she could see Josh and Jason and possibly Gerry that would vote to keep her. They are tallying the votes - if that does happen she would still get out on a 4 - 3 vote. Lisa is there now - and she thinks Josh would vote to keep Amy. Dani - Jason told me he wouldn't vote to keep Amy Lisa - it's so funny how we get scared about stuff in this house.

Jul 31 2002 00:56, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 10260				Link
Hot tub boys and more Marc
They're discussing the veto and other things. Eric thought he didn't want it at beginning, but was forced to take it to survive. Back to Marc in the shower. Dani and Lisa walk in. Marc is saying he's not happy. He says he'll tell them why later. They are talking about Amy and her one for sure vote. Dani says "It's not me." Dani says all he needs is 4, right? They think it's Gerry or Jason. Lot of tension. Lisa asks where Amy is. Lisa and Dani are sure it's Josh, now. The one vote for Amy. Dani says is that bad? Lisa says Josh and Jason could vote to keep her, maybe Gerry too. Still 3-4. They're shuffling cards and counting. Badly. Lisa thinks it's safe. Dani isn't so sure. Dani says Josh told her he wouldn't vote for Amy. Lisa is reassured as "Josh keeps his word".

Jul 31 2002 01:05, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 10271				Link
"I hate him, he makes my skin crawl:
C3 Dani is saying she has a 'hook-head' so doesn't put her hair up. Lisa is talking to Eric about his different shaped eyes. Dani segues to toe shape. I change feeds. Josh walks in and is laughing at Kiki for falling over Roddy outside. She was trying to run and jump on him and bailed. Dani asks if they will get married. Yes, she says, because they look alike. And the talk moves to sex. Girl sex talk. Kiki says she wants one healthy kid… And we're back to Marc freaking about Amy. He thinks she's working against him by not wanting it unanimous. Josh says he 'never answered her' and told her if she went and asked everyone he'd be disgusted. Josh says that's why he went and told Marc.. Marc, after Josh leaves, says to himself "I hate him. He makes my skin crawl"

Jul 31 2002 01:06, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10273				Link
Marc/ Josh talking....
M is talking about Amy trying to get votes, says it's telling, that she should want it to be unanimous. Josh saying he's not going to vote for Amy to stay, that he wanted to tell Marc about her coming to him. Josh leaves and M says: "I hate him. He makes my skin crawl."

Jul 31 2002 01:11, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 10288				Link
9 male rugrats
Back to girl talk, Lisa likes the name Olivia for a baby. Derek is a hard name for a girl she says. (ed: hello!LOL) On to talking about some poor kid named Ashley who took heat. I keep seeing Marc sitting at the table, not saying a word. Very tense still. Kiki talking more about this boy named Ashley. Puerto Rican kid. And the trouble the kid had with that moniker. Dani likes "Stone Jackson" for a name. Kiki talks about Roddy's mom with 4 girls. And Lisa's aunt with 8 boys and having a 9th, and they home school. They are determined to have a boy. She says the household is very happy.

Jul 31 2002 01:18, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 10306				Link
"Instead of cats, I'll have a baby"
Lisa's aunt with the 9 boys isn't even 40 yet. And now they're talking about marriage again, except for Lisa who's looking for her bra. Dani is asking Marc about him being a father. Marc says he'd have a nanny. Lisa, Kiki say no way, when he's 35 he will have a kid and love it. Marc says he couldn't sire one, maybe adopt. He says he'd have one it wouldn't be even attractive, it would be a failure. Lisa tells him it should have his genes. I heard someone offer to carry his kid! Roddy talks about this ugly kid in a movie, they all convulse laughing. Dani mentions Joy Luck Club and how cute that baby was. Marc is now saying "I don't want one and I don't want to spend my time…" Lisa is saying 29 is a nice age for selfishness". Marc says when he has his antique store he'll have a baby instead of cats. (ED: :O

Jul 31 2002 01:19, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10309				Link
The girls sit at the table talking about baby names/marriage....
C likes the name Ash, but it would remind her of her ex, Ashley (long boring story about) Lisa tells them she has 9 boys and is keeping going until she has a girl C saying she does want to get married and have kids. Dani tells her she'll be a great mom and that she'll have the most prudish child on the earth. Marc has joined the girls, Josh sitting near by. Marc says he doesn't think he'll have childrten. He will never sire any, but would consider adopting one day. Dani thinks Marc would be a good parent. Marc says he would be the kind of parent that would have ananny. The girls disagree. (Marc lied about his age again, BTW.) C jokingly offers to have M's baby. Roddy has joined the group. Talking about ugly/cute babies now. M says he doesn't think he could give the time to a kid.

Jul 31 2002 01:24, Wed	ohclancy	Forum: 073102 Post: 10326		Parent	Root	Link
To clarify: Lisa doesn't have 9 kids - her Aunt does (actually getting ready to give birth to her 9th boy) NT :)

Jul 31 2002 01:29, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10337		Parent	Root	Link
Ooops! Sorry.

Jul 31 2002 01:22, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10318				Link
marcellas just lied about his age.
Lisa asked him how old he was, he said 29. He's 34.

Jul 31 2002 02:16, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10441		Parent	Root	Link
ya i heard him say that before too!!!!!!!!!!!a few weeks ago.....mabey he is 29?
ya i heard him say that before too!!!!!!!!!!!a few weeks ago.....mabey he is 29?

Jul 31 2002 01:22, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10320				Link
Marc joking about raising a strong girl (funny stuff...I can't begin to transcribe it.). Eric brings the dragons to the table. NT

Jul 31 2002 01:24, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 10327				Link
Ladies, Lizards and gey families... quote of the night
Lisa talks about 2 gay couples she knows with kids. Fairy tale happiness (ED: she said that, NOT me. LMAO) Marc says he'd raise the most spoiled kid… Lisa adds well-dressed. Kiki says it might be a total jock. Marc says he'd be mortified, then that "he'd embrace that for her strength" He goes on to say that his girl would not be the one to mess with. The leeezards are out.. one ran down Eric's arm like a bat outta hell. Dani is laughing at him. He yelps and barely catches Leah. Now Marc says that if he stays to the end, they're gonna close off the LR and let the lizards go. Roddy is doing something with the lizards… Kiki is yelling at him, we are focused on Lisa who is doing nada.

Jul 31 2002 01:28, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10335				Link
Eric feeds the lizards on the table as the girls look on. Marc went outside when he found out the lizards could jump. NT

Jul 31 2002 01:30, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 10340				Link
Don't worry, get naked... it's only CBS, no one will see (more)
And now we see Amy, puttering silently around. She's putting on makeup. Jason walks in. Back to the others. Roddy is talking about when he and Kiki were talking about sex, and they heard the cameras zoom madly on them. Then he says he's glad there's not a ton of food in there, as he'd eat all the time from boredom. Marc says he's lost weight. Chiara is called to the DR. Roddy and Marc are in HoH talking, Marc on the bed, Roddy in a chair. Roddy says first few days there he worried about topless pics of him on the web. He finally figures there's no escape. After a few days, he goes out in his undies. Marc doesn't like the dance to get into the shower. He'll be naked now, and Roddy agrees. No more clothed showers. Roddy feels safe in that it's CBS and not HBO. (ED: don't forget us!) Now Marc is called to the DR, and tells Roddy he'll back. Marc thinks it's for their dinner orders.

Jul 31 2002 01:34, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10349				Link
M holding A hand at the table durring group chat NT

Jul 31 2002 01:38, Wed	ktan	Forum: 073102 Post: 10358				Link
Amy gets upset because she can't find the poker chips. Now she has to cut them again. nt

Jul 31 2002 01:54, Wed	ktan	Forum: 073102 Post: 10398				Link
Things are getting worse for Amy. She's commiserating with Marc about her definite eviction. nt

Jul 31 2002 01:57, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10405				Link
Amy upset. Talking about the effect of going out with a unanimous vote when she gets outside the house
That there are people who will be happy to see her fail, people who will be mean. Talks about her mother. She looks very sad, almost crying from time to time. She is without lipstick! Lots of talking about not being able to do what's important to her. Marc not talking much, just shuffling cards. Amy says it's cruel to not let her be able to ask for something (I think she's tlaking about getting one vote.)

Jul 31 2002 01:59, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 10410				Link
Amy breaks down, Marcellas is harsh.
Marc tells Amy he's on the block because of her. She says she's sorry. He says that the problem is, even one vote for her opens the door to the possibility of 4 votes for her. She cries, she doesn't want to go home with all votes against her. He says she should sacrifice herself. She says she doesn't want to stay. But that no one understands the repercussions of all this at home for her. It's cool there, where people are happy to see people fail. They all sit back and snicker, they're horrible and cruel. They're the reason she's cold and bitter, and her mom is no better. Then she goes home and all is OK, then her Mom turns on her. That is what means a lot to Amy. For once Marc is silent. She goes on to say she tried to explain to others but it's been misinterpreted, that there's nothing more she wants. She sounds so plaintive. She says to him it's insignificant, but to her it's the most important thing, but that without living it no one could understand. It's a huge deal to her. It's cruel to ask her not to want that. Marc asks her what, she replies that one shred of dignity. (which he just tried to take away.) He responds that if this town is so bad, then you have options. She says it's my life. I live there and love my job with my daddy. She breaks down, says he won't be there forever, and I don't want to not be able to do that over something like this… you don't understand how they are. I could pack, but I pride myself… something so stupid which won't affect the outcome. Marc says don't rail against me. She blows up. "I'm not trying to campaign against you" and he says "I’m not having this conversation."

Jul 31 2002 02:22, Wed	KWren11	Forum: 073102 Post: 10453		Parent	Root	Link
Marc is YELLING at Amy NT

Jul 31 2002 02:18, Wed	ktan	Forum: 073102 Post: 10445				Link
Marc halts D/C conversation. Angry about Amy's speech and that she's talking to Eric. nt

Jul 31 2002 02:22, Wed	ktan	Forum: 073102 Post: 10454		Parent	Root	Link
Amy brought in by Dani to HRD. Amy insisting she doesn't want to return home evicted by unaminous vote. Marc admonishing her for her campaigning. nt

Jul 31 2002 02:32, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10492				Link
Amy telling Gerry & Eric that Marc hurt her feelings; Amy and Marc fight! (long)
Eric says that Marc is her friend, he thinks he doesn't want to hurt her. Amy explaining how bad it will be when she goes home. Says she wasn't campaining against Marc, just wanted one vote. Eric trying to comfort her, telling her to look on the good side. Dani comes out and asks to speak to Amy. D: Have you ever heard of the terminology "nip it in the bud?" (Something else about friendships being important in the house.) D: Asks her if she said that Marc didn't want her to have one vote. Amy starts to deny/explain. Feeds switches to Eric and Gerry playing cards!!! (argh!) Switching feeds....RP screwing up..taking forever...missed a bit. M: (yelling at Amy) You stomped out, came back in and attacked me. I took you to the dinner and you got drunk, or were acting drunk. You have given people reason to vote you out. As of right now, you have given reason to vote you out. A: I didn't turn on you. M: And I had your back.. I would have done anything to keep you here. M: I never once said I wanted you to have the unanimous vote. Marc saying he heard her telling them..She tries to defend herself. Dani asks who told her it would be a unanimous vote. Amy says Josh. M accuses her stabbing him in the back. She denies it. (Lots of loud voices, yelling, screaming, Amy crying, Marc *very* angry.) M; I think you're campaining behind my back. A: I don't even want to be here! M talking about Amy's stomping in and out and what she did at the window. Dani tries to calm things down. Marc leaves. Amy shuts door, is crying a lot now. She tells Dani she hasn't been doign what M thinks, that she's been trying to explain it to him. (She's getting hysterical.) Dani saying even though she's leaving she's still in the game for the vote. Dani saying no one can risk giving her a vote. She says Amy should aplogize because what she did hurt him even if she didnt' intend it to hurt him. Amy talking about the mean people at home again.

Jul 31 2002 02:32, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10493				Link
D/C discuss Ja's deal with R to vote out Tonya to keep Ja from being voted out for 2 weeks
C asks D to go to bathroom area for convo. C explains that she got info from R that when Ja was equivocating on how he'd vote in Jo vs T that Ja went to R. R said that R, E and Jo would not vote against Ja for the next two weeks if Ja were to vote out T. Subsequently, if Ja himself were on the block for either of the next two weeks, they would not vote against him. Ja confirmed this with C by saying that he had made a deal with the devil. C using this story to get D's support if C gets next HoH, C will nom Ja and Jo to evict Jo. She wants D to not veto Ja and to not worry that Ja will be voted out as the target will be Jo. Under C's plan, Ja will be protected by his covenant with R as this would be week #2 of the 2 week deal. D apprehensive. Will veto Ja if she feels any question of the plan's success. C also spins Jo story that Jo feels D is behind breakup of the couples. C backspins to say that Jo took it back slightly "but he'd already put it out there" and that Ja then confirmed he felt it was G and M. This whole scheme is all predicated on C getting HoH and D getting PoV... Then M bursts in to report on the goings on with A. D leaves to get A. D brings A into room (D and C had moved during their convo from the bathroom to the HRD). M and A have catfight. Posting.

Jul 31 2002 02:39, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10517				Link
Marc back in the room. They are hugging now, Amy crying and apologizing profusely. NT

Jul 31 2002 02:42, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10530				Link
D/C try to calm down A after A & M catfight
A: I'm happy to leave. D: Then that's all you need to take when you walk out of here, not the numbers. I would prefer unanimous rather than losing by 1 vote. A: If my mother...(cries) D: You are better than that. (M enters) M: Boys are playing poker, A. A: I'm not interested right now. A: It's like it doesn't matter when... D: You should let the numbers impact you that much. A: It doesn't make sense to anyone...no matter how hard I try to explain it...the damage is done...no matter what I do, M, you are going to think I was going behind your back, I mean I don't know what I can do to fix... D: Stop complaining, go out with the unanimous vote. M: I'm not jockeying for you to go out unanimous. A: I know. M: I wish Jo never came to you with this... A: I'm very sorry (sobbing) A/M huggies A: I love you. I never tried to say anything behind your back. D: Okay? A/M happy cry D: You guys are good friends. I would hate for a person to leave when there's a problem. A: I can leave after that. D: A, enjoy...enjoy...enjoy...okay? C: Are we cool? M: I'm cool. {A/M huggies} C: Of all the people in the house, I'm probably not your favorite. A: You're not the least. You and Gerry! (laughs) C: Everyone will vote the way they'll vote...might be unanimous...what I do is my own kind of going away thing since it's kind of obvious you might be leaving... (group laughter) C: We all have something in the living room we want to do... C calls living room meeting...

Jul 31 2002 02:44, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10536				Link
Kiki and Amy.......
C: I know that out of all the people in the house, I'm not your favorite. A: You're not the least. <laughing> Kiki saying that she wants to do her own going away thing for Amy. Amy and Marc seem okay for now...laughing. Amy goes to bathroom to blow her nose. Kiki talking to her. Amy's back - she's putting on lipstick.

Jul 31 2002 02:44, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10539				Link
A says outside the house she has bottles and bottles of Visine...didn't think she'd need it inside house NT

Jul 31 2002 03:03, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10590				Link
Group hug in LR for A's departure (long)
Jo:Knowing the way A is, if A pays attention to when you are speaking to her, it means more than just anyone else in the house. Ja:Still more to know about her, thinks she's wonderful, can't wait to know her more outside the house, thinks she's great. L:You are a beautiful crier, played wonderful spades game, believe we are all here for the amount of time we're supposed to be here, A really shined as pageant coordinator D:You always have interesting stories,not always at the appropriate time, you put up a lot of shields, there's a caring person in there, I appreciate time we spent together, off the wall stories, looking forward to keeping in touch. Sometimes shields protect but sometimes shields prevent you from receiving good relationships. G:Lots of talks of why we're here, the journey, G proud of A's realization of the fork in the road, where she's at C:We're best friends (laughter), I had more fun being southern belle, wish you the best luck, we'll be better friends when this is over E:When I first saw you were from deep,deep,deep,deep south, I was excited. I appreciate talking about New Orleans, you are a real sweet girl, go with that, thank you for the further use of the word "tayen" (ie. 10) and "y'all", I would like to see you on a street corner somewhere,will make sure to look her up and take your money playing poker. R:Thank you for the scandalous affair, it was glorious, don't forget the promise you made me the other day...to everyone, including L and T, we have a bond, let's continue to walk together, it will be so different without you here and F-ing Mississippi State sucks. M:I will miss most until we talk outside is your absolute amazing dead-on wit, sense of humor, grace, kindess of your smile, beautiful hay roll hair, you brightened my day and my life, I am enriched by meeting you. Whether you leave or I leave, or whether our relationship is tainted by being nominated together, I absolutely adore you. A: I love you too. Thank you for letting me be co-HoH! {cheers} A:I'll be rehashing this Thursday. I came here to be on TV. M told me there's deeper reason. I said no, M, you don't understand. I really thought that. I will always want to be in contact with you all. I learned one of the biggest lessons that I've ever learned. It was until nomination that I learned it. I will walk out a better person. I put up these huge shields. It was easier to be mean. I learned when you don't trust anyone, you can't be loved. My parents always wanted to know when am I going to grow up. I think I have. I want to apologize to any of you and you get home and see the tapes. {howls} That was before I learned any of this. I am a verbal abuser. I won't do that again. I will always be more careful about what I say to others and be more honest. I don't leave here upset or bitter or mad. God puts everyone in places for a reason. I'm lucky that I got to figure out my reason before I left. I had a wonderful time. {applause} M:And this made for really good television.

Jul 31 2002 03:06, Wed	OreoKing	Forum: 073102 Post: 10605		Parent	Root	Link
Excellent recap! NT

Jul 31 2002 03:03, Wed	supercn	Forum: 073102 Post: 10593				Link
F3 - Danielle and Chiara's HoH plans, Amy and Marcellas yell at each other (LONG)
Danielle and Chiara were strategizing around the bathroom.. Chiara was thinking about what would happen if she got HoH. Ch and D both want Josh gone undoubtedly... Ch relates a deal that Jason mentioned to her. Jason struck this deal with Roddy (and E/Jo through him) where that group of three guys won't vote for Jason if he's on the block in the next two weeks. Ch says that ensures that Jason is the perfect co-nominee to go against Josh to ensure Josh is gone. Eric and Roddy would turn on him (Ch talks about convos with R about this) ... M and G would obviously vote against Josh as would D and she agrees. D is, however, skeptical and wary the entire time. D never agreed to the plan and is still considering going with Gerry/Josh if she wins HoH. Danielle worries that people will turn on Jason because they think he is a threat to ultimately win the Grand Prize.. Chiara says that if Jason walked out that door then, she'd walk out after him. D snarks back, "You better." (LOL) ------------------------ Marcellas barges in and says that Amy got drunk and spoiled his dinner. Amy came right by and said "I'm aware of that, let's deal with that". Danielle mediates.. Amy says she's excited about seeing Bucky, going home.. and she's not worried about going home. But she is worried about going to the "evil, horrid" place she works and having that thrown at her. Marcellas says emphatically.. "get this like it's from that bible you carry around with you." "If any one person in this house wanted to save you.. they could. If Josh wants to do it, he can, Gerry, Jason, he can.. any of them can. Get that. So don't run around here playing Martyr, because all it does is make you look ridiculous" A: I'm not playing Martyr! M: You just sat there within earshot and said He does not want me to have one vote! And I have never said that - I have bent over backwards to be your friend.. please forgive me if I don't want the door open at all to the possibility that I could be voted out of this house.. you walked out of that room, stomped out, giving us full on drama. You came back in here and attacked me. A: I didn't. M: YOU DID! I took you to that dinner because you wanted to go. And you got drunk. You put yourself in this position Amy. Don't try to cloak it in what these other people think.. it's not about that. You have given (names everyone) a reason to vote you out. And because of your behavior in these last couple of days, you have given ME a reason to vote you out! A: I'm sorry if you feel that I turned my back on you.. M: And I would have done anything to save you.. and I never once said to you that I didn't want you to have the unanimous vote, I just said Stop being played. A: I realize that. M: So why were you out at the table saying -- More screaming back and forth about what was said at the table. A little too fast to describe. A says that M hurt her feelings -- Amy defends hersel furtherf by saying it was about something Josh told her and this incites Marcellas beyond belief. (ed: apparently Josh told Amy recently that she would be voted out unanimously and even M wanted her gone now, that she didn't "deserve" that) She's about to cry, he's pointing and shouting. M: From the moment this happened, I gave the possibility that I could walk out this door. I never thought it was a done deal. I don't know where this back-biting, ugly horrible person, with a knife in her hand, climbs up to stab me in the back. A: I'm not stabbing you in the back! M: Whatever Amy. You know what your words said. I never said the vote would be unanimous, and if I had anything to do with it, it wouldn't be unanimous. Amy says that something M told her tonight hurt her feelings. M responds that A is campaigning behind her back.. now Amy's yelling too. Amy: "I don't want to be here!" M tells her that A even asked him to put her up.. says he's not asking her for anything, that he's been her friend, honestly, and has been above board for her. But what she did outside crossed the line. M says he hasn't campaigned against A... and A yells out that she hasn't campaigned either. M says "And I WANT you to have the one vote".. D starts mediating that the people will see the one vote.. A: (crying) I've tried to make you see this Marcellas, I've tried.. that's not what this is about. I've tried to make you see that. Danielle I am not trying to stab him in the bakc... D: But you do see where he's coming from, right? A: I do, but I am trying so hard.. I haven't mentioned anything about it in 2 days.... Amy is a bit incoherent and talks about a conversation she had with Josh.. where she found out that Marcellas is allegedly "playing her". Now she says her "goodbye speech" is useless because she doesn't want to talk to anyone when she leaves. Danielle (with an eerily calm voice) comforts her by letting her know that she doesn't know who voted for whom until the person walks out the door.. Amy says "to be completely honest" even if M left she would still want to walk out the door. D says she would give A a vote if it were guaranteed, but she cannot risk that. D adds that if she's thinking that (D), others are thinking that.. A agrees. D suggests A apologize to M.. Chiara pops in and says she understands Amy's point about not wanting to go out with no votes. A says that everyone should just agree, then.. but D says it's never for certain, in "reality show after reality show" because once someone goes to cast their vote, you never know. A says that she comes from the "cruelest place imaginable". It's not where A lives, but where her parents live and work.. they're the most "horrible people". They "relish in people's failures" according to A, but D consoles her and says she made it this far.. A says she'll have a thousand calls when she gets back. Relates stories about going places and being stared at, whispered about.. and it's something she expects. But she hates giving gossipers "that one more little thing". A: I didn't want it to come to this. D and C talk about getting everyone in the living room and finding out who wanted to give Amy the one vote -- Amy objects because it's too much drama.. "it's already gonna look bad anyway." D: Amy, remember, when you walk out you walk out with your head high. A: You forget I haven't walked out yet. But I want to, I will be so happy when I came. I did come and I did learn the one lesson I needed to C: What was that? A: I learned a lesson bigger than this house, than money, it's something I will take out of here and deal with, it's something I needed to know.. I'm happy about that, about having the opportunity to know that.. D: Then that's all you need to take when you go, not the numbers. If that's true what you're saying, that's all you need to take when you leave. A: It's not about me taking out the numbers -- it's about having to deal with that -- and not only that but my mother.... It's about dealing with her on top of them. M enters and tells A that the boys are playing poker ... C says that Amy doesn't have much of a poker face right now (she's weepy with the disheveled face look). Little bit of A rambling about what's honest and how hard she tried to explain it.. "nobody's gonna fully understand it". A: No matter what I do, Marcellas, you're going to think that I was going behind your back.. I don't know what I can do to fix anything.... b/c none of this is what I intended.. D: This is how you fix it. Stop complaining, go out with the unanimous vote... M: It's not about the unanimous vote, Amy. I'm not jockeying for that. If someone wants to vote for you they can. D: Let the game be played. M: I just wish Josh had never came to you and said it was going to be unanimous, and that I (Jo) don't want that (Amy starts crying loudly again and tells Marcellas to come sit next to her..) A: I want you to know I would never do anything to hurt you or talk about you behind your back.... (crying out loud) M: It's okay Amy, it's okay... (they laugh about it) D: Let it out Amy, let it out... Danielle talks about how she told Amy it was going to be settled because the two of them are friends.. that it would be ugly but it has to be settled. Amy agrees and adds that she didn't want to leave on that note. Laughing, Danielle tells them she doesn't want to hear anything about the vote. Chiara tells Amy that of all the people she's not her favorite.. They laugh as Amy says "not my least".. and joke about Gerry. Ch: "for all the strength that you throw, I know htat there is a very innocent and sweet sweet side of you and everyone's going to vote the way they're going to vote and you might walk out unanimously, if there's one thing I can do that I think would be really nice.. I kinda would like to do my own going away thing for you, since it's obvious you might be leaving" (Amy laughs) M says he's never said the outcome was already decided. Ch says it has nothing to do with M and she wants the goodbye to be out there more than the normal thing. (?) Chiara tells her that they're all going to meet in the Living Room because they have something special. C leaves but F3 stays with M, D, and A in the HRD... A is about to get some tissues and C has apparently herded everyone. C: Because you know what, Amy? It's about time you got rid of that tough exterior and showed a little innocence... Posting

Jul 31 2002 03:08, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10613				Link
Everyone is gathered in the LR telling amy what they like about her......( very long)
Kiki organizes, asks everyone to go around and tell one thing they love about Amy. Jo: Says geting a response out of her when telling a story means more than anyone else. <applause laughter> Ja: I think you're a great person. When this is over, I'm comin' to Memphis and we're going to hang out. You're a wonderful person and there's a lot of caring in your heart. L: First I want you to know you're a beautiful cryer. I think you really shined while you were here. (Ja adds something else, everyone says "you got your turn!" He goes on anyway.) D: You always have interesting stories and we enjoyed them tremendously. We know there's a caring person in there...maybe way down deep inside there. (A laughs) I look forward to seeing you again and keeping in touch. G: We've had lots of talks about why we're all here and the journey. I've very, very proud of you for your revalations. C: I know you and I are best friends <laughing> No, honestly. I had more fun that night doing that Ole Miss cheer. I'll never forget it. Thank you for that. (They hug) E: When I first thought you from the deep, deep,deep south I didn't know how to deal with it and I think that's why we didn't have as many heart to hearts as others. But I think youre'a real sweet girl and you're really passionalty about things. (Jokes about her picking up her pronunciation of "ten." Wanting to get togethr when they're out." R: first up, thank you for the scandulous affair. <laughs> We had a tremendous talk and is a tremendous person. We are something to each other that we will never be to anyone else. It's going to be so different without you here and we're going to miss you. And MS State sucks. M: The things I'm going to miss until I'm out and with you again is your absolute amazing dead on wit and sense of humor. Your absolute grace, the kindness of your smile, Your beautiful blond hair that every time you walk into a room makes my day. I am enriched just by meeting you. I absolutely adore and love you. Amy crying again..I love you too Marc. Hugging Dani says something about Amy doing the butterfly. laughing. Everyone appluads. Amy saying she came here to take the summer off, meet people and be on tv. Marc kept telling me there was a deeper reason, but she kept arguing "no, you don't understand." A: I learned one of the biggest leasons I've ever learned. I will walk out of this house a better person. I put up these huge shields. I've learned when you don't trust anyone, then you can't be loved. My parents were always "When are you going to grow up" And I think maybe I have. A: I want to apologize to any of you when you get home and watch the tapes..... <loud laughing!> A: that was in my early days. I am a verbal abuser. It's my defense mechanism. I don't think I'll ever do that again. I think I'll also be more honest with others about my feelings. A: I don't leave her mad or bitter or sad or angry. I've had a really good time. <applause> m: And you made for really good televison. Things are over. Small talk, chit chat.

Jul 31 2002 03:08, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10614				Link
Group discusses food/alcohol/ice cream, Jo says "Let's cut Ja open and watch him bleed...." NT

Jul 31 2002 10:09, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10789		Parent	Root	Link
Re: Group discusses food/alcohol/ice cream, Jo says "Let's cut Ja open and watch him bleed...." NT
Isn't that right on the lines of what happened last year with the knife incident?? What kind of remark was that??

Jul 31 2002 03:11, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10623				Link
Amy, other HGs eating ice cream. Chit chat. The calm after the storm. NT

Jul 31 2002 03:12, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10625				Link
R to A, "You are a pretty crier, not many girls can pull that off." NT

Jul 31 2002 03:15, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10632				Link
J to A that she shouldn't listen to what her mother might say about a unanimous vote (sincere)
Jo to A, "Let me just say F your mother, I mean, I don't know here very well and all that, but just forget about what she says." (He's referring to A saying mother will be upset with unanimous vote to evict A.)

Jul 31 2002 03:16, Wed	supercn	Forum: 073102 Post: 10635				Link
F3 - The Special HG Meeting to comfort Amy (long)
F3: (Living Room) Impromptu meeting in the Living Room.. every HG is present. C is in control apparently and she sits down A in front of the gathered HGs. C opens with something about how we all know that Amy's going to leave.. and that everyone should go around and tell her the thing they're going to miss most when she's gone. A says she doesn't want to cry but is already starting.. Josh goes first. One of the things he loves about Amy, saying that if Amy is paying attention to your story or what you're saying, it means a lot more. "I can honestly say.. if you get a response from her, it means more than anyone in this house!" (claps) Jason next. Says he's told Amy a lot of things privately.. says he thinks A is a great person, he was very excited to see someone else from the South on the first night. Made him feel at home. Ja says he's coming to Memphis to hang out with A when this is all done. (jokes about Graceland). Adds that he thinks A is a wonderful person with caring in her heart.. he does think that there's so much more he can't wait to get to know outside of this. Teasingly thanks her for introducing us to Bucky. Lisa's turn. She observes that A's a "beautiful crier". Jokes that A looks like she's sitting there expecting a whole bunch of roses or something. L thanks her for playing their spade games.. she really does believe that they are all here for the amount of time they're supposed to be. L says A shined while she was here, showing off as pageant coordinator and singer. Hopes A will go on afterwords to pursue that. They clap and Amy thanks her. Jason chimes back in about something Amy sang.. that one of her songs took him away, like it was them at a Broadway show. Time for Danielle. Says that everyone noticed in conversations A has interesting stories.. maybe not appropriate but they enjoyed them. D says she likes to see the good in people but she puts up shields. D says that once A has friends, she sticks by them.. D also mentions A's stories again and adds that she looks forward to seeing her again. Her moral is that sometimes the shields can shield you from hate, but sometimes they can shield you from the love and good things too.. Ch intro's Gerry. Gerry says that everyone has had talks about why they're there, the journey.. G says he's proud of A for her realizations, how she needs to apply herself to make that fork in the road. G says he's proud and Amy thanks him. Ch does her speech, basically saying that she hopes they'll be "much better friends" once this is over. E says that when he first saw she was from the "deep, deep, deep" south (all laugh) He didn't know how to deal with it, but says that's why they didn't have as many heart-to-hearts.. but they've had a few. Mentions some stories about New Orleans. Says A is a real sweet girl, passionate about certain things, and to go with that in what she's best in. Thanks her for the way she says "Ten".. and says he might throw in a few "y'alls" and a "dagummit" Adds that he really would like to come to N.O. sometimes and see her sing. When and if he does, he'll call her and she can be his tour guide. E tells A it was great to know her and he looks forward to continuing taking her money as they play poker. Roddy's turn. R first off thanks her for the "scandalous affair". M: CBS thanks you, as well! (Hah.) R says that in a weird way the rest of us walk together.. that there's something there that is different for them than with anyone else. (audio breaks up) Tells Amy it will be so different without her, and that they will praise her and say the nicest things. "And f***ing Miss State sucks!" M's turn. Tells her that her "dead-on" wit and amazing sense of humor, "absolute grace", and kindness of her smile, her beautiful blonde hair. Every time A walked into a room, she brightened M's life. Says he didn't come to BB3 expecting a friend and he is enriched just by meeting her. M thinks that the circumstances may have tainted it to some degree but he does absolutely love her. A says she loves him too. A: Thank you for letting me be Co-Head of Household.. Danielle jokes about Amy doing the butterfly in Ab Class. They all congratulate her and clap and laugh. Amy says she came here b/c she wanted to take the summer off from doing anything, meet 11 people, and live on National TV. A: I thought that was my reason for being here, but M kept trying to tell me there's a deeper reason for me being here. I really thought there wasn't, but meeting people that I will always send XMas Cards.. people I can call up randomly, when I see things that remind me. I learned one of the biggest lessons that I've ever learned, here. A: It wasn't until this nomination and b/c of this nom. that I learned it -- but I will walk out of this house a better person than I walked in as. Most of you said I put up these huge shields, I was raised that way.. I learned at an early age that everyone was out to get me, it was easier to be mean to everyone. I learned that when you don't trust anyone you can't be loved. You can't have relationships or friendships with people. My parents always wanted to know when I would grow up, and maybe I have. I will always think about others' feelings - how my words and actions effect other people. I want to apologize to any of you if you get home and watch the tapes and see.... (Everyone laughs, "Woooooo!" and claps..) A: I offer my most sincere apologies to anyone I may have slandered.. you don't know people and that's my defense mechanism. I'm a verbal abuser. (apologetic tone) I just throw it out there and call people the worst possible things I can think of. (Joking and laughing) A: Not only will I always be careful about what I say to others but I will always be more honest about my feelings. Instead of just opening up to people I close even tighter -- if someone is opening to me or I will to them, I just get really mean. And I won't do that again, because it shuts out so much. Everyone may be out to get me, but if I never believe I never can know the difference. I've learned huge lessons in this house, and I won't leave bitter or mad because God puts us here for a reason. I'm one of the lucky ones because I was able to learn that. I had to be here to learn that. It's been great. I've had a wonderful time. M: It made for reaaaally good television. (Marcellas goes over to hug her. Laughter from pretty much everyone. Clapping, too as the tension deflates) Jo: Want a final smack on the ass? They all joke about what she'll say about Julie Chen and how she will deal with it. They laugh about seeing Bucky. R asks if they'll see Bucky from the front steps. Joking about wanting Bucky to come into the house. Joking about having to tell the DR about it.. R says "let's go line up!" The group scatters and makes small talk about food and cleaning.. later in the backyard Josh tells Amy "To hell with your Mother. It's your life. F*** her. I know I shouldn't talk about her that way, but if it affects you, F*** her." post

Jul 31 2002 03:21, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10641				Link
Ja:"I didn't ask about your libations." C:"Libations? What is that?" NT

Jul 31 2002 03:29, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10658				Link
FOTH F1: back. Ja/D/M/C/L talking and laughing about farting. NT

Jul 31 2002 03:31, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 10659				Link
F3: A/Jo/G/R/E outside playing cards. Card talk. NT

Jul 31 2002 03:32, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 10661				Link
HG's hold a reverse intervention to support Amy. Each says what they like most about Amy. [Partial Capture]
Josh: If Amy actually pays attention to your story it means a lot Jason: You're great because you are form the South and I will visit with you outside. You are a very caring person. I think you are great. Lisa: You are a beautiful cryer. I'm glad we got to play . . something ?) . . We are all here for the time we are supposed to be, and you were great in the time you had.. Loved your Pagent Coordinator role. Dani: You have interesting stories, sometimes they aren't at the appropriate time. A bunch of stuff I couldn't capture. (a VERY left handed set of compliments). Gerry: I'm proud of how you have learned Chiara: We have been best friends (all laugh). I loved the moment we had to share as cheerleaders. Eric Keeps referring to her as from the deep, deep, deep, deep South. You are a real sweet girl. Thank you for the further use of the word ten. (reference to the Southern accent and usage ?) . I hope to come to New Orleans and visit you (no real commitment here). Roddy: Thank you for the scandalous affair. We had a great talk and don't forget the promise you made (?). We have a bond that we will always have. We will miss you and say nice things about you after you are gone. Marc: I will most miss is your amazing wit and humour and your absolute grace and your beautiful blonde hair. . . (had to refresh and lost some more). . I adore and love you. Amy's Response: I will always send you Xmas cards. I learned the biggest lesson because of the nomination. I will leave a better person than I walked in. I have learned that my shields keep me from opening up to people. I think that maybe I have now grown up. I have learned to be more considerate of others. She apologizes for what she has said in her DR tapes (big laugh). She paints those tapes as pretty extreme, but made before she knew any better. I will be more honest about my feelings and stop using meanness as a defence. Yadda, yadda yadda. I'm not leaving mad or bitter.

Jul 31 2002 03:33, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 10662				Link
The group in the LR after the session. Chiara, Dani, Marc and Roddy/Eric.
Roddy/Eric says "That went quite well. Marcellas, you spoke very well" For some reason, Chiara partially drops her pants and shows off her white men's underwear. Dani now recounting the confrontation between Marc and Amy, saying that Marc should have let Amy talk. Also says that Amy has to get out of that town. They are agreed that it is a horrible place, and imply that it is the root of all Amy's problems. Feed to bath and Lisa brushing teeth. Lots of boisterous noise from the other room. We follow Lisa back the kitchen. She keeps going, but the camera stays on Chi, Jason, Dani, Roddy/Eric, Marc in kitchen. Lisa returns to make a pb sandwich. Dani and Marc carrying on loudly. Marc is tired of being the "big girl". Dani says them maybe I should be the "big boy" and does a crotch grabbing imitation of a macho guy. Talking of food and generally being loud and just having fun. Lisa makes a deal to share her remaining beer with Dani. If she doesn't drink it before the HoH change, she will lose it, but with the medication, she doesn't think she should drink it alone. Dani agrees easily enough. FOTFH

Jul 31 2002 03:40, Wed	lawheeze	Forum: 073102 Post: 10671				Link
Ja/D/C/L/M having ice cream and talking about farts, cuddling, sleeping nude (long!)
M: I think when you are napping, that's the only time you have a total grace period for farting. Ja: I agree. D: Talking to E, it's just like all the time. C: His farts were moist. L: E is a 13 year old when it comes to farts. C: That's where the wetness sound came from. C: He saw the blanket where you spilled the coffee on it...{much laughter} D: I hurt myself. C: Remember the Lori thing? M: I thought it was slobber? C: I felt bad for her. Poor thing. M: They must have aired that because in my DR, they asked me about that. D: When I use my razor, I rinse it with rubbing alcohol and then I put it up. M: I'll be dipped in a vat of 99% alcohol. D: I'm glad my husband is so clean, some men are just funky. M: I like funk. I like E's funk. D: No. huh-uh. My husband leaves his shoes outside the bathroom at work. He keeps his toothbrush separate from me...and we make bread together. D: Remember Sex in the City where the guy had to get up after sex and run to the shower. L: I had a boyfriend like that. C: Me too. D: It annoys me where I take a real clean shower and he wants me to get nasty. Ja: I think we've joined girl talk tonight. M: Boy and girl talk. C: He'd be like, I know why you're upset cuz we didn't cuddle. L: Same boyfriend wouldn't let me fall asleep with him. M: I don't have a problem being touched, I just can't sleep under someone. D: I have to touch him when I sleep. M: I'm just learning to sleep without clothes. D: Not me. I can't do that...too tempting for my husband. D: I like to spoon him...reverse spoon. L: R is one of the best cuddlers, right? C: Yes! L: E is too. D: I don't want to jump my husband's bones, just want to cuddle. C: E seems like he has a gentle touch. L: Yes, absolutely.

Jul 31 2002 03:49, Wed	ktan	Forum: 073102 Post: 10675				Link
Some HGs go outside to look up at half moon - orangey color. Cam also takes shot at the moon. nt

Jul 31 2002 03:55, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 10680				Link
Amy, Gerry Josh and Eric playing poker at the table in the yard. Someone called to the DR.
No one heard who, and it is repeated. Eric hurries and leaves. This breaks up the game. Roddy and Amy are the only ones left. Josh returns, but goes into the corner by the HT to do push-ups. Roddy and Amy exchange some reassuring words and a hug (I missed the talk because of an unscheduled disconnect). They go in and leave Josh to his exercises. Large, loud group competing with each other to be heard around the kitchen island. Camera back to the yard. Most are there looking up at the sky at the Orange moon. Roddy called them all out. Apparently it is quite impressive. The camera zooms in on it very well, but it is probably more impressive to them. Jason and Dani in the bath/ Jason brushing teeth, Dani sorting through a basket of cosmetics, most or all of which apparently belong to Amy (who is not there). Camera to yard and Amy and Marc sharing the hammock. They are sharing a tub of ice cream. They are laughing between themselves and with others in the yard off camera. Amy is smacking her lips frequently and loudly.

Jul 31 2002 04:51, Wed	Hippiechick	Forum: 073102 Post: 10702				Link
C&L decide that Josh has to go next because "he's such a loose cannon" and then "Gerry wil have no clout" NT

Jul 31 2002 04:57, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 10703				Link
Cycling The Feeds: One Last Time Before Bed
F 1 & 2 in yard. Dani and Jason at table talking while Ja riffles the cards. Jason confirms that he has not changed his vote (Amy goes). Marc and Amy are still in the hammock laughing. Someone is using the exercise machine. F 3 is the same as F 1 & 2, but from a longer distance. Still can't actually see anyone else in the yard. Now it switches to Lisa on a bed, shown from the stomach up. There is talk that sounds like it might be a discussion of her bite/boil as part of an inspection of it. Eric comes into scene and kisses her gently. She says, "if we ever become intimate and you touch my ass . . ." Feed switches to Gerry, Roddy and Eric (not sure how Eric got there so fast, although he wasn't actually in frame at the start) in LR. R & E play chess. Gerry talks of the movie (was is, "waiting for) Bobby Fisher" Josh seems to be observing. Chess talk about past games, etc. F 4 is the chess players from a greater distance. Now to Chi and Lisa in BR. Chi saying "R & E are men of their words, so if you put up Josh and (didn't remember it long enough to type it, and she didn't finish the thought) The gist is that they will remain loyal to someone) Chi says, "The alliance is broken, Tonya is gone (she mentioned some other factor as well)." "When Josh went up, Jason wouldn't commit to who he would vote for" (I'm not following this, partly because I came in, in the middle of things, partly because I can't type as fast as they change direction). Chi got up to close the door because they were being secretive, but, as she turns from the door, she says, "Can you see yourself falling in love with Eric?" Long pause to answer. Lisa was surprised by the question and says she was so "in game mode "that she was caught off guard. "I see too much of my ex b/f in him . . . I don't know if he is ready for that" She makes reference to a girl he is seeing at home. (rather non-committal, I would have expected more from her. Is she just playing it cautious with Chi?) Long girl talk about the intensity of the situation in the house as compared to a 4 hour date on a Saturday afternoon. Chi seems to be saying that she has real feelings for Roddy and has been explicit about it in the DR Some concern about what families back home are seeing on the air. Chi is contemptuous of any of Roddy's ex-girlfriends and what they might see or say. BB announces, "lights out in 5 minutes." Real player disconnects itself. I go to bed.

Jul 31 2002 05:01, Wed	Hippiechick	Forum: 073102 Post: 10705				Link
Marc and Dani comparing what plastic surgery work they want done on their butts. Be glad you slept through it. :-P NT

Jul 31 2002 05:08, Wed	alana	Forum: 073102 Post: 10706				Link
On Feed 3, L & C conspire regarding what C will say on her "goodbye" DR speech to Amy. L tells C to be real b*tchy, use southern accent. NT

Jul 31 2002 05:14, Wed	Hippiechick	Forum: 073102 Post: 10707				Link
L & C are thinking up horrible B****Y speeches to send off Amy. They're making fun of how "sincere" they were at the Amy meeting earlier. NT

Jul 31 2002 05:16, Wed	Hippiechick	Forum: 073102 Post: 10708				Link
Kiki going on and on about how she plans on rubbing Amy's nose in it that "she got Roddy." (as in boyfriend) NT

Jul 31 2002 05:23, Wed	Notme	Forum: 073102 Post: 10711				Link
Lisa and Chiara Tiki room
Chiara and Lisa have been chatting for a half hour in the bedroom. Chiara wants to nominate Josh and Jason. They really, really want to get rid of Josh at all cost. And Chiara says since Roddy and Eric gave their word that they wouldn't vote against Jason for two weeks. Jay will be safe. They said they were surprised that Josh got in the house, because he was a troublemaker in the hotel room. They wonder if Merritt really exists. They go on and on how he sickens them. They say America probably hates them. Lisa is saying 'rerun'. They wonder what Josh has been saying in the diary room. The conversation turns to Amy and her diary room sessions. Amy says they have been trashing them. Amy said she said goodbye to Tonya in ten different languages in a smug way. Chiara is going to do a cheer for Amy's goodbye message. "ARE YOU READY. Hell Ya I got roddy gosh almighty. who the hell are you? Sainara,, adios, Arrivederci Oh Amy Bye Bye!!"

Jul 31 2002 05:54, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10713				Link
Roddy talks Chiara out of doing the 'cheer'. Would make her look good on TV. N/T

Jul 31 2002 07:14, Wed	OreoKing	Forum: 073102 Post: 10719				Link
D, M & Ja are in bed (separately!) discussing the game - D thinks the couples are going to come after her...
M says G is focused on the couples, and is allied with Josh, so they won't nom D. It is the couples they have to work on. But they can't say "couples" in their convos, they'll just say "them" & "they". Ja thinks it's funny that he now hopes for G to be in a position of power. But "it's a good thing he was first week, because he saved M." D replies "That's right. Pray, Jason. Pray that His will be done."

Jul 31 2002 07:19, Wed	FancyNanci34	Forum: 073102 Post: 10722				Link
M,D&J in BR strategizing. Expect to be the final 3. Say R made a fatal error aligning w/C and he now realizes it & can't shake her. They hate R >>
They are definately voting Amy out. Josh and Jerry are next. M just called R a F*n idiot. Says he's dumb enough to believe that M likes him. Jason is the big planner. He's laying it all out for M & D and saying they should play it cool during the daytimes and not stick together too much. Only talk in their bedroom at night. M - Josh said tonight he is sick of the revolving door each week of J, M & A being nominated. If Josh wins HOH he's putting up Lisa and Roddy. J - telling Danny to plant a seed in the girls ears. (didn't hear it all, whispering) M - if I survive the vote tomorrow I'm F*n going to kiss Roddy and tell him I love him. Try to confuse him and make him think he is on R side. D - has a bad feeling because they are saying she is smart and she knows they will come after her. J - says he knows they are coming after him too. D - we will hold off for two weeks then we will go after those two. (don't know which two but she means the couples) M - saying it's "balls out" time now to win this. Gotta play this game ghetto style. D - saying yes, I don't have time for this crap. You don't think Gerry will nom me, do you? M - G has given me his word and never gone back on it. G is focused on eliminating the couples. D is whispering and hard to hear. J - just came back from the bathroom . It's 4:15am and these people are never going to sleep. M says he needs a bedpan and D says that's nasty. She says "just pray J" and J laughs. J - I feel strongly about G winning HOH tomorrow. D still saying just pray Jason. Gods will be done. Now she wants to read her bible. M - back from WC. It sounds like it is thundering there or someone is bowling. grrr lost feed Now D back from WC. All three back in bed again. Keep losing feeds every 30 seconds. Finally no talking. Maybe they are trying to sleep. Goodnight all.

Jul 31 2002 08:07, Wed	TammyH32	Forum: 073102 Post: 10735				Link
Everyone's Asleep... NT

Jul 31 2002 10:10, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10791				Link
Eric walked to the bathroom, looked a lot like a gorilla... his knuckles almost dragging on the ground...he must be TIRED (NT)

Jul 31 2002 10:11, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 10792				Link
Eric washes hands, looks like an 80 year old man so haggard and tired... dries hands on towel... walks gingerly to fridge, pulls something out in the

Jul 31 2002 10:13, Wed	BB#BBQ	Forum: 073102 Post: 10793				Link
Eric walks to small fridge, opens it, looking inside. Lights seem to be coming on or it's getting brighter in room or something. Eating ice cream?

Jul 31 2002 10:13, Wed	BB3BBQ	Forum: 073102 Post: 10794				Link
F3 - Eric eating out of a container of something by window...

Jul 31 2002 10:14, Wed	BB3BBQ	Forum: 073102 Post: 10795				Link
Eric F3 - Puts lid back on, now he's at the sink. Wiping his hands with a towel, walking back to bed.

Jul 31 2002 10:54, Wed	KWren11	Forum: 073102 Post: 10822				Link
Feed one, Roddy and Chia asleep in the spoon position in the HOH bed... blechhh NT

Jul 31 2002 11:37, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10854				Link
F4: Gerry up [NT]

Jul 31 2002 11:43, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10863				Link
F4: G goes potty... washes hands? YES [NT]

Jul 31 2002 11:54, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10878				Link
F3: G wanders around...really bored [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:14, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10883				Link
G puttering around [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:21, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10892				Link
F3: G plays solitare [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:34, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10900				Link
F3: G on exer. machine [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:35, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10901				Link
G IS EXERCISING ON F3
yeah man

Jul 31 2002 12:40, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10903				Link
some FOTH to mix things up [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:40, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10904				Link
BIG BROTHER GARDEN SHOT!!! F3
ON F3 is cencersoed?

Jul 31 2002 12:41, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10906				Link
Eric is up on F3
Doing something in the kitchen

Jul 31 2002 12:42, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10907				Link
F2: Ja M talking stradegy [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:47, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10909				Link
F2: M whining about BB wanting them to get up earlier [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:49, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10911				Link
F3: E showering...left on undies til he was in [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:51, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10912				Link
F3: L D in bathroom [NT]

Jul 31 2002 12:52, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10913				Link
Danielle Rdy to go in shower and get nude on F3
Watch

Jul 31 2002 12:59, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10917				Link
F2: G's turn in shower [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:02, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10918				Link
E puts back on his dirty undies [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:06, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10926				Link
BB says L please come into the DR [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:06, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10927				Link
Lisa in diary room
On some feed

Jul 31 2002 13:09, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10931				Link
D on all 4 feeds [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:10, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10934				Link
D talkin to cameras.. asking her friend to call her mom [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:13, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10937				Link
F4: E patting C butt [NT]
Guess she's branching out

Jul 31 2002 13:13, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10938				Link
D, Chiara, and Eric in bathroom
Yeah baby very shagadelic

Jul 31 2002 13:17, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10945				Link
Eric and Jason talking bout Porn on F1
Yeah thats cool

Jul 31 2002 13:17, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10947				Link
F2: G E playing chess [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:18, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10949				Link
Eric and Gerry playing chess on F1
Stoped talking bout porn and started a game

Jul 31 2002 13:20, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 10955				Link
All feeds on chess .. breaktime for me [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:22, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10960				Link
Jason is on camera with D
EOM

Jul 31 2002 13:23, Wed	maam	Forum: 073102 Post: 10961				Link
F3 Ja flossing and D getting ready in bathroom n/t

Jul 31 2002 13:25, Wed	deVinePoet	Forum: 073102 Post: 10963				Link
Jason gets into the shower fully dressed, even with his hat on; places the towel on the door to protect his privates from ...
being seen by passers by. Very modest showering here.

Jul 31 2002 13:26, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10966				Link
Marcellas the Rebel
Marcellas fights against CBS LOL

Jul 31 2002 13:27, Wed	deVinePoet	Forum: 073102 Post: 10970				Link
Marc up - protesting the wakeup call with 'union' chants. Josh up, sitting in chair waiting for shower or toilet. nt

Jul 31 2002 13:28, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10972				Link
Josh is up all *NT
NT

Jul 31 2002 13:31, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10976				Link
Josh talking Staregy with D
He wants Gerry to leave...We claims he wastes food and wants D to help him..Lisa just joined

Jul 31 2002 13:37, Wed	Karasmyles	Forum: 073102 Post: 10985		Parent	Root	Link
Coober7-Most of your posts can be contained in the subject line, then make a note that there is no text in the actual post by writing NT. Thanks:)

Jul 31 2002 13:34, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10981				Link
Gerry goes to diary room
I don't know y

Jul 31 2002 13:42, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 10998				Link
Eric and Josh Talking about Gerry NT

Jul 31 2002 13:47, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 11004				Link
Damn Theme song garden thing NT

Jul 31 2002 13:49, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11010				Link
BB says D please go to the DR [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:50, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11015				Link
F1: E and G still playin chess... Jo looking on [NT]

Jul 31 2002 13:56, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11026				Link
L's been chewing her pills instead of swallowing them [NT]
[NT] means no texts, folks

Jul 31 2002 14:00, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11031				Link
F2: Gerry needs a belt for his pants [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:02, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11035				Link
F2: HGs wondering where all the sliced cheese is.. (Amy made cheese rolls) Jo says "Jews LOVE Chinese food" [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:02, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 11036				Link
Talking about what they want for dinner NT

Jul 31 2002 14:04, Wed	ktan	Forum: 073102 Post: 11042				Link
Jason mentions his website, www.jasonguy.com, talks about what his site has on it.nt

Jul 31 2002 14:05, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11043				Link
Jason plugging his website [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:08, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11048				Link
Ja D Jo L in kitchen
Won't show the other HGs

Jul 31 2002 14:12, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11053				Link
F2: talk of diets and exercise in kitchen [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:13, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11055				Link
D says she broke down in DR when they mentioned her home/family [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:18, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11056				Link
F4: Ja D playing cards.. talking bout scotchgard and kids [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:25, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11058				Link
F4: d "Appearance is everything" for career [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:27, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11061				Link
F3: L getting ready to tan. E doing laundry. Close up of water in pool [NT]
[NT] means no text, guys

Jul 31 2002 14:29, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11062				Link
E messing with grumpy M.. threatening to spray him with hose [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:30, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11063				Link
G on exer. machine for the 2nd time today? [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:31, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11064		Parent	Root	Link
Yup [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:46, Wed	Kaz	Forum: 073102 Post: 11080		Parent	Root	Link
Keri, I appreciate your posts, I really do, but perhaps you could put a few short ones into one longer one
so that the board will not scroll so fast...... Thanks so much....

Jul 31 2002 14:49, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11084		Parent	Root	Link
Good idea, bout breaktime for me,tho [NT]

Jul 31 2002 18:52, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 11280		Parent	Root	Link
Re: Keri, I appreciate your posts, I really do, but perhaps you could put a few short ones into one longer one
I like the short posts better. Quicker to read and get through

Aug 01 2002 22:46, Thu	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 13164		Parent	Root	Link
Re: Keri, I appreciate your posts, I really do, but perhaps you could put a few short ones into one longer one
I hate them, its a waste of time. if you are going to do short posts, just put it in the title wit an "NT" so i don't have to clickety click click all the time. Plus it moves other posts off the page too fast

Jul 31 2002 14:32, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11065				Link
BB says Ja to DR [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:45, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11079				Link
F1: M "I want my life back" D says don't puss out on me [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:48, Wed	kericale	Forum: 073102 Post: 11081				Link
All feeds on M and D talking bout food [NT]

Jul 31 2002 14:55, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 11088				Link
Lisa And Eric Tanning NT

Jul 31 2002 14:59, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 11089				Link
Gerry the loner
Every one knows Gerry is a loner...Right now he is playing cards by himself...He thinks he is friends with Marcellas but i don't think M likes him...as friends lol

Jul 31 2002 15:02, Wed	ImJenn	Forum: 073102 Post: 11090				Link
F1: Backyard (not exciting, just LONG)
Lisa puts on sunscreen. Eric fills a bucket from the hose in the back yard. Dumps out with clothes inside.... feed changes to show Gerry on elip machine the only sounds are of breathing as Gerry huff and puffs closer up shot of G from the waist up then a shot from the bottom up as we get to give G the camera once over D enters the by and feed moves to Eric, then quick back to D sipping her am coffee noone is chatting Danielle stand by the barbell and has a seat on the bench.... seems very serene Josh lounges in the purple pillow chair as lisa suns herself, spritzing her body with water I think she is wearing a black bikini w, white accent sounds of the exercise equip and water can be heard but all we see now is Lisa's torso and head as she lays in the sun... back to D sittin on the bench a plane flies overheas and she briefly looks up then back to forward.... This is not exciting TV folks... noone has anything to say Dani seems to either be thinking or singing in her head then she giggles and looks about the yard back to lisa on her back same shot as before shot pans out to show her whole body knees slightly raised Josh yells "OW why don't you move over... you've done that 3 times!" shot is still on L, back to her head now to D who has decided to stretch out and the returned to the bench. some conversation, but cannot tell what they are discussing but it was brief Gerry close up huffing/puffing back to D parked on bench w coffee cup D is wearing a lovely white tank top and black capris just sipping coffee and looking around "Oh I think you were looking at me duh!" (D) "you were?"(D) walks to red patio chair " It wasn't like that before" (M) "no it wasn't when you get up to eat in the middle of the night... you never know it"..... discussion goes to studies to people who were mysteriously gaining weight (sleep eating) eating odd stuff, lard, butter...... D & M "says worse than it was.." M talking like he was turning into a distended ethiopian... M says this will be a tough week because there is no greens D says that is why to eat wheat bread. notes that M doesn't drink coffee D talking about a letter that came from the family... in DR I guess was discussed, D said she cried like a baby. She says she was... M doesn't want to talk to anyone form outside, just wants to do his time and get out BOTH LAUGH Told them all forget about me, don't wait for me, go on w. your lives Danielle, missing the smell of DH's skin, her babies she guesses just that crying was always a sign of weakness in her family Says how her mom found she may have MS, and that when her dad called to tell her she was all ok ok,,, tears down her face.. but not showing it. her family is like that... just tough. Its like Don't you cry girl Right after she called her mom and Mom was like "you didn't cry did you" "no mamma" talk goes to G how he has lost weight M wants to pluck out G eyes an throw him into sauna D says G was talking all Greek myth to her M says it's all he understands D says when G told her he quotes in DR she was just like ok G "hey M" G asks if he woke them with his workout (squeaky squeak) M says "you know you did" Between all the noise D tells M to suck her toe... G says M acts like he has a hangover.... Discussion briefly by D re: hangovers talk about how they have been in the house since the 29th... discussing what day is today..G says aug 1, D says they didn't have a 31st yet M apologizing... his life now half naked white people... watching grass grow talking how they want greens D wants collards w. mustard says she makes it so you just taste greens, not all the mustard posting.....

Jul 31 2002 15:29, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 11105				Link
CHIARA HAS A COCK?:SHe said to Marcellas she has a cock and she wants Marcellas...Probably joking NT
n

Jul 31 2002 15:31, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 11107		Parent	Root	Link
Re: CHIARA HAS A COCK?
They are having a fack talk show with D and Ja hosting. They are asking C about her wearing M underware and are now asking her about the nasty smelling dish towels.

Jul 31 2002 15:33, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 11109		Parent	Root	Link
Re: CHIARA HAS A COCK?
oops...fake talk show

Jul 31 2002 15:33, Wed	BanishThemAll	Forum: 073102 Post: 11108		Parent	Root	Link
Kiki and Marc were "guests" on a "talk show" that Ja and Da were conducting. Da says, "That explains the whitey tighties, completely!!" NT

Jul 31 2002 16:42, Wed	Anonymous	Forum: 073102 Post: 11164		Parent	Root	Link
Re: CHIARA HAS A COCK?:SHe said to Marcellas she has a cock and she wants Marcellas...Probably joking NT
ha

Jul 31 2002 15:37, Wed	Coober7	Forum: 073102 Post: 11111				Link
They r rdy to eat Subway NT

Jul 31 2002 15:41, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11116				Link
Jason and Dani playing "play interview show" with Chiara as the guest.
Chi is pretending to be a model who is so much the feminist, that she wears men's underwear. (There is something about it being a protest, in order to show how terrible it is to have to be a man - but I didn't follow the logic). She drops her pants to show her tighty-whities Talks of the discrimination she faces because of her underwear selection. She has been arrested several times because of it. She is listing the places you can't wear men's underwear, and mentions that you can't, wear them to church. Dani asks "have you been to church" "Of course, that's where I first got arrested." They disclose the secret that Chi has been linked with a new love. She says she is exploring her sexuality, but that her new love is a man - Marcellas. They bring Marc in as a surprise guest. He confirms that he is with Chi and that he is still gay. He says that Chi has a d**k, so it is the best of both worlds for him. New surprise disclosure about their guest. She is plagued by dish towel funk and just can't clean them. (Chi is acting well and carrying on about her pain and shame over this horrible disclosure). Dani is called to the DR and they play along that this is a special isolation booth and that Chi now has freedome to say anything about Dani that she wants. Chi says she hates Dani and the show would be so much better if they hired her to be co-host. The show continues, and is about to call up the band leader (Josh) to participate. Instead, we get alternating scenes of FOTH and the back yard.

Jul 31 2002 16:09, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11141				Link
Whispered stuff in the yard between Josh and Roddy,
but there is sound bleed from the house and E & L's mikes are dominant. Sound is fixed, but they are still whispering. Speculation by Roddy that "Marc would suck at HoH competition" Roddy says, "He was the first one that told me where Gerry was going" and "His diabolical scheme probably won't get off the ground" (don't know who was "the first", but the diabolical scheme is probably Gerry's) Josh: "I've been really good at being a non-prick for the last week. It's hard" Chiara joins them. Talk of Chi's top and "big tits". Roddy loves when girls call them tits. Now just chit-chat.

Jul 31 2002 16:27, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11157				Link
Roddy comments to Eric that "you have a bald spot on your chest, just like me"
He moves in to point it out, and Chi yells from the glider "What, what, what, don't touch it, let me see." They explain that it is nothing. Josha in HRD saying over and over "I just can't do it" to Jason. It takes a while, but I think he means being nice to Gerry. He is saying that he thinks too many want to keep him around as a pawn, but that's just not right. He is really, really going after the HoH this time (because he wants to get rid of Gerry). Jason is being sympathetic and appears to agree with everything. Josh mentions that after Gerry eats some popcorn, no one will eat it. "I know if he wins HoH, it is trouble for the girls. He's going to put Lisa and KiKi up. He's going after the couples. I know that for a fact." Talk about the competitions and that you can't really prevent anyone from winning. Josh is upset with the trivia style, because anyone can win. Josh talks of "we have the numbers" as if Jason is in the alliance, but "anyone else can throw a wrench into it" Some talk of competitions that don't allow them to eliminate themselves if they don't want the prize (I think this is about wanting to lose Veto competitions). Jason cuts it off by preparing for a nap. Josh leaves. We follow Josh out, then linger on the empty kitchen. Finally, we see Josh enter the yard. Chi is on the glider, squeaking away. Others are around, but not visible. FOTH, but yard conversation remains. Hmmmm. Nothing much being said at all. Still no music, but the voices have dropped off. An occasional laugh accents the perpetual squeaking. Is it just my imagination, or are they raising the sound on the squeaking and dropping it on all else? Picture is back on Rod/Eric laying in the sun not talking. The volume of the squeaking drops substantially. Now FOTFH, and the squeak volume rises. Now just soft sounds and mumbling. Chi has quit the glider. Back to FOTFH and occasional voices. No one is talking or singing.

Jul 31 2002 16:50, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11169				Link
F 1 & 2 and all is quiet in the yard. Just people laying around in the sun, not talking.
F3 is Jason on his bed. There was some conversation about Chi that I missed (I have to go to the w/c sometime). Chi enters just as BB tells her to put on her mike. "I'm getting it" Jason says they saw that and just said it to bug her. he also says that he told them she left it behind when she went to the Bath R. Long time of jus Jason's head on the screen. Various noises in the b/g. Switch to LR where Roddy/Eric is vacuuming. F 4 is Marc sweeping the floor in front of HRD. It seems to be hair, or a lot of dust bunnies. Meaningless chit-chat from off camera. Now the vacuum has started again. Marc has swept the same spot a dozen times now - I don't think his heart is really in it. F 1 & 2 is Chi and Lisa in the sun. They have decided that they will do the clean-up tomorrow. Chi calls out to the others to announce their decision. There is some commentary about "ya, whatever, bi**h". Apparently, if one of the guys says nothing or just agrees, that is what they really mean. Dani is messing with the weights. I don't know if she is about to workout, or is just straightening up. I like to watch girls in bikinis, but this is too close up to be fun). The girls talk of wanting more outfits, and having lost some of the stuff they already had (where did it go?). Apparently, Lisa lost a shirt that she won in one of the competitions. Lisa asks if there were 2 couples in the house last year. Chi gives a good outline of the people from last year, and even mentions Booger's proposal. Lisa doesn't respond much, except to say "isn't that interesting" Lisa won't go in the pool because one of her blisters has broken and she doesn't want to get anything in it. Now just girl talk and allot of fidgeting around by Chiara with her top (It is completely undone, but she is masterful at keeping it in place - Damn her). Chi says that her mom will be watching on the Internet, just so that she will know what Chi has done before the neighbours. My mom doesn't give a s**t what she does, but there is some concern about her dad. Both girls mention that they have each lived with a man for 2 years.

Jul 31 2002 17:47, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 11191				Link
Dani/Lisa about Josh
Dani and Lisa talking about Josh, who says if he gets HoH he wants Gerry up. Dani says Josh said he didn't want to go before Gerry, and wanted to know who to put up with him… d said she wouldn't tell him. Lisa is rubbing her butt.

Jul 31 2002 18:18, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11218				Link
Eric and Lisa in the dining room talking about investments and finances (spending their winnings already?).
Eric says that someone told him, "If you put away $1000 a month starting at like age 18, by the time you were 65 you'd have, what, a million bucks." "Ya, but where is an 18 year old going to get $1000 a month" (Roddy misses the point) "Oh, you just have to put it aside, maybe your parents would have to help you" He says he isn't good with money.

Jul 31 2002 18:41, Wed	Jokerette	Forum: 073102 Post: 11252				Link
Wash/Lock down
Lisa and Dani now doing wash, noisily. Marc comes out saying "oh yeah" and Lisa asks Dani about the last she went on a date. Dani talks about the date with her hub right before she got to BB, and says they usually don't go out. Lisa invites her to NY to see a show. Now the HGs are locked down inside "Until further notice". Amy announces this is Massage Amy night as it's her last night. Then she breaks into Christmas songs, and Jason says that tomorrow is Aug 1. They discuss dinner. Eric wonders if they're rehearsing HoH and they decide yes. Rehearse today. Dani says "remember I got in trouble?" and someone says yes.

Jul 31 2002 18:48, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11271				Link
Lock down in the house. (more)
Everyone apparently milling around the kitchen. Jason hold his mike up to his mouth and announces "I think everyone is in the house Big Brother" (nice gesture, but doesn't he realize that BB knows better than he?). Most have wandered off somewhere, only Dani and Jason are there. Jason says, "I would guess that this is a long lock-down, something's up" Dani agrees. People are wandering back now. Roddy/Eric and Josh are in the LR playing chess with someone watching. Both Roddy/Eric and Josh complain that once they get home they won't be able to play with anyone (chess). "That sucks" Most of the activity is in the kitchen, but not on this feed. Changing. F 1& 2 is the chess game. Roddy asks about the water on the stove he has something on to boil, but forgot it. Dani says it's OK. Camera to kitchen. Dani and Lisa talk food. Back to Chess. Change again in the endless search for something entertaining. F 3 a frozen long-shot of the chess game. They don't even have spectators now. Refreshing. Still the chess game, but the audio is of the kitchen. Camera to the kitchen. L, C & D in kitchen, Gerry at the table eating. Dani lecturing that if you are going to have a baby, "the epidural (sp?) is your best friend". Some mention of effects on the baby, Dani says, "so the kid is a little high." Gerry contributing to the birthing stories. Ech! F 4 is, unfortunately, a closer version of the same conversation. (Where was that chess game?) F1: not here, still the kitchen conversation. Lisa suggests that she and Chi should get pregnant together and go through it together. Various scenarios ensue. Gerry suggests that Dani would be a great birthing coach. Dani said "coo-coo" twice without adding "for coco-puffs"

Jul 31 2002 18:49, Wed	Stark	Forum: 073102 Post: 11274				Link
Chiara asks what afterbirth is and how you learn to deal with pain of birth / D's husband thinks hospital lost D
(As I set up to update, the HGs talked about wondering what the lockdown that they are in is for, a few guessed luxury challenge, but gerry thinks its probably to rehearse HOH challenge as they did the rehearsal a day early last week) G: its like packing material in the womb, well he was 11 pounds so it was trapped in the ambiotic fluid, and so she had to present the head so the midwife could push it in to get it out and I cut the umbilical cord L: I heard the afterbirth was worse than the birth G: it is for some women C: whats the afterbirth L: it’s the whole sac of stuff that comes out after the birth G: I had a brother die at childbirth from drowning when the umbilical stuff came first instead of last, he died at childbirth D: epidermal, what ever you do, make sure you say yes to epidermal C: how do you do all that pushing and deal with the pain D: learn yoga and do the breathing exercises, (shows them some) L: (to C) we will just have to go through childbirth together D: (shows some more breathing) and I just wanted to scream C: but you had the epidermal (sp?) D: yeah but that was before I went cukoo, and my mom at one points goes (whispers) dani, I’m about to scream and I was like oh no you don’t, don’t embarrass me here L: I don’t understand why some of them say such nasty things to the husband D: yeah I wasn’t like that, and my husband missed it, cause we didn’t know it would come so soon so he had to drop (other kids name) off and came right back, but I had it in 9 minutes only, so he came in and asked for me, and they told him they had no one by my name in labor, and it took a bit to figure out I had already had baby, he was like I just dropped her off a few minutes ago and then they finally realized I was pulled off since the baby was born

Jul 31 2002 18:56, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11296				Link
F 3: Lisa, Chi, Dani Jason and Roddy/Eric in kitchen.
Roddy/Eric talks of someone running in here and eating the sprouts before anyone knows" Girls still on the horrors of birthing. Jason and Roddy/Eric at the table unloading a large box. It looks like they are preparing to play some kind of board game. Jason seems to know it and is explaining it, but I can't hear any of their convo. F 4 audio is of the girls in the kitchen, but the initial picture was across the guys in the dining R. Now just the girls and baby talk. More poop talk from Dani, but baby's breath is sweet. F 1 is the same thing. Time to take a break. Dani recommends "don't get a rocking chair". The kids apparently become dependant on it to get to sleep and that will be a problem later.

Jul 31 2002 18:58, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11300				Link
Dani says "I thought we were going to do something today". Lisa says we got to practice this stuff" ( ? ) N/T

Jul 31 2002 19:11, Wed	Stark	Forum: 073102 Post: 11323				Link
Grumpy, Not Grumpy? // Whats tonight? Past Challenges
Ja: do it again R: ok D: hey R: does that bother you, it’s the same thing (playing a game where they each hand the other a piece that they then play, not sure what it is) L: how am I put this on R: oh it was fine it was just like a train conductore, toot toot, oh is roddy giving me a hard time, you fine young man (yes r said that last part) Ja: I’ll go, um D: wait a minute Ja: wow, all snappy like D: shut up R: whoa R: oh very interesting, you can’t do 3 in a row like that though can you D: no Ja: I’m going to make it difficult for you dani, but I you don’t BB:Lisa please move your microphone higher, (moves it from bottom of bikini to top) Ja: hmm…let me see (lisa hums) please stop that L: I was just humming a song that I like G: I have to tell you I called you the abbner doubleday (baseball inventor) of duckball R: oh I love it I’m the abberner doubleday of duckball (and something else) G: oh that’s great you made it one better (missed some stuff about telling time and BB messing with them with the shadow BB: (someone not L,D,Ja, R, or G) please come to DR R: I get awfully misconstrued as grumpy when I’m just not thinking anything Ja: they think me grumpy when I’m just sitting there being alive L: I’ve never thought of you as grumpy G: your testy sometimes Ja: hmm..test G: whatever you do Jason don’t marry a girl to try to fix her (think this is c related) Ja: oh absolutely not G: good R: it would be good if you choose a color Ja: oh sorry G: oh you must be tired R: yeah I do get accused of being grumpy when all I’m doing is watching Ja; I already took a nap, I burnt my neck I was just sleeping and when I woke up my neck was owwww Ja: So we do have a rehearsal today G: well, something anyway Ja: good G: I think the best was food botique, thought the bathing suit switch was fun early on Ja: yeah G: at least for the titillation factor anyway R: I have to watch myself, my humor is getting darker and darker but people take it more and more serious

Jul 31 2002 19:16, Wed	CKAngel	Forum: 073102 Post: 11336				Link
Game chat, GE, JA, D, Roddy
G: whatever you do Jason, dont marry a girl to try to fix her. Ja: Oh no.. I wont. comments about game. Jason's neck is sore. Back is dark from being in sun. Ja: So we have a little rehearsal this afternoon. G: Something. Talk about the fun they have had in the house, bikini contest. Roddy talking about humor he shares with his buddies, afraid of what he says in house Done with game.. everyone splits up. Ja goes to get something to eat, looks like left over subway. Gerry stays at table, reading game directions in spanish.

Jul 31 2002 19:52, Wed	Stark	Forum: 073102 Post: 11388				Link
Chiara goes in depth about her despise of knowledge and why Roddy's intelligence may offend some people (I found very interesting)
(chiara is telling roddy that if she wanted to live a trendy life and know about celebrities and fashion then his knowledge isn’t worth much, but if you want to know about the rest of the world around you then it would be worth something) R: did you realize all that stuff could come from a maganzine in a day, juste read 5 fashion magazines in a day C: yeah but I don’t’ want to do that R: yeah but I have to use soft words here, you can’t offend them, so I use soft words and wait for affirmation or I’ll go back, my favorite thing in the world is to be part of it and not on the sidelines watching, its crucial that you understand that C: I think I understand BB: C please do not obstruct your microphone R: that’s you C: well at least I was wearing it (she was laying on it) C: sometimes you expect higher of people and I feel like I’m thinking about my brother as I had huge issues when talking with him and I do this because (foth) C: so I started keeping up with things we could talk about cause it was difficult dating someone and then coming in and having to get in about debates, I’d mention puff daddy or jlo to upset him, and I wouldn’t listen except occasionally the stock market, he told me one time that all I care about is surface. And I took that for granted, and now I know you shouldn’t do that, so I ask question to learn more about them, that’s why I don’t like amy. So I wouldn’t go any further so I told him I know you don’t just talking about surface and that he likes to talk about deeper stuff, but I told him its ok to just let it go and let them just be where they are and I know you want to play and not be on the sidelines but you have to sometimes not to try to bring them up but you come down. I think you should know about celebrities so you can talk to others about them, you shouldn’t always be so into other things. I guess I could get deeper myself but I’m outt of practice. I’m not ashamed of it, but my brother don’t like to be with me because he says we never talk about anything at all and it bothers him, we only talk about the ecstasy trip we had or the party the night before. And I don’t know, that’s what interests me, and so that’s why people get offended sometime because you are like wake up and you wanted to be a encyclopedia and the things we know, we just don’t trust our opinion so we talk a little weaker, we talk a litt softer. We don’t want you to go against us. By the way we were raised we couldn’t speak so opinionated (shes not opinionated?) and so why you like to talk about deeper things we don’t. you could talk to me about astrology or something, I like that. R: well when I finally learned that I wasn’t incapable and the world could go around without me I was overjoyed, the things I had like religion and girlfriend, were nothing, and my thoughts, and life and what I said earlier my spirt my life became so much better and fuller, and it got better literally minute by minute, instead of being a servant to things that are flat out not important and iddn’t make a difference. I was like I’m not dumb, I can have my own ideas, and I can put them out there, if they suck they suck, if your in love your in love and you have to tell the world you can’t keep it in, so I have to tell you stuff because its my love of the world, I mean guess what lets love everything, truly love it and be part of it (feed jammed)

Jul 31 2002 20:20, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 11449				Link
M/D/Ja chatting in the HRD....
Jason talking about being a virgin - difficulties, giving the wrong impressions. Dani asying she's sending her daughter to AL for college. Ja talking about his pastor. Discussing his virginity being an issue in the house. Ja asks Marc if he thought coming out would make him a target. Marc says he did worry about it. Now discussing how America's choice works. Ja explaining how online voting can be rigged. Dani asks Ja is he wants a huge wedding. He does. Ja says he will write a song for his bride, play piano. Dani is impressed, says she can't wait to go to his wedding. M asks Ja if he goes to FL a lot. He does. Now talking about FL. Dani asks if it snows in AL. Ja says once every 10 years or so where he lives, more in northern AL and TN. discussing where Amy lives. They're confuesed that shelives in Arkansas, but works in Memphis. (ed. They don't know about West Memphis.) Now Ja is telling them about the weather down south.

Jul 31 2002 20:32, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 11461				Link
L/E/R chatting in the tiki room......
Lisa and Eric in bed, snuggling. Roddy sitting on the bed. E/R joke about trashing each other in the DR. Eric complains about having no shot at the America's choice. Says he wants a lux challenge. They are talking about food - specifically seafood - while waiting for the HOH practice.

Jul 31 2002 20:38, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 11473				Link
Kiki retrieves Roddy from the lizard room; Lisa and Eric snuggle....
The camera follows them, but we hear Lisa say, "Now come here, you." Kissing sounds, Lisa saying she's trying to get close to him. FOTH Roddy picking up Kiki and carrying her to the kitchen. Back to L/E in bed, spooning. Talking, laughing. Now back to Kiki in the kitchen eating peanut butter.

Jul 31 2002 20:40, Wed	KimM	Forum: 073102 Post: 11476				Link
R/C have joined the group in HRD. R talking about going to Vegas, roadtrips. NT

Jul 31 2002 20:51, Wed	ImJenn	Forum: 073102 Post: 11493				Link
ALL FOTH ~ ALL FEEDS nt

Jul 31 2002 21:20, Wed	Phantom	Forum: 073102 Post: 11524				Link
Chiara to Marc: "Why did you want to be on this show?"
A friend has his own TV show and I wanted to have mine" "I'm too old for the Real World, didn't want to be the black man on Survivor Africa," and reasons for ruling out other shows.

Jul 31 2002 22:01, Wed	ktan	Forum: 073102 Post: 11553				Link
Dani's obligatory workout is underway. The participants wave hi to a passing airplane. Empty living room on 2 & 3, poor audio on 3&4. nt

Jul 31 2002 22:04, Wed	Stark	Forum: 073102 Post: 11558				Link
Tonights Ab Class
D: ok lets go, and 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 D: legs to the side, 1,2,3,4,5, feet together, 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 D: other side and up 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 (waved at a plane) D: supermans up up up and away 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, 10 cmon breathe, 11, 12, 13,14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 D: sit on those hands, legs up and go 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12, 13,14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 D: and down, put your hands on your head, full body cruches and go 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, 10, 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 D: hands behind your head lift your body up, cruch it and stretch your body out, cruch it 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,cmon,16,17,18,19,and 20 D: bicycles I want 25, not butterfly you want to do it now bicycles and go 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20, 1,2,3,4 and 5 D: put your hands behind your head and spread those beautiful legs and full body crunch, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16, 17,18,19,20 D: down and lift up, squeeze it squeeze it 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 D: ten pulses 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 D: squeeze 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 D eight pulses 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 D: squeeze 1,2,3,4,5,6 D: six pulses 1,23,4,5,6 D: squeeze 1,2,3,4 D: four pulses 1,2,3,4 D: hold hold hold hold hold D: ten pulses 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 D: slow slow down down down and your done

Jul 31 2002 22:57, Wed	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 073102 Post: 11656				Link
C hanging over shower stall talking to R
Missed alot but R mentioned that Jason would eventually have to go. Chiara said Danielle acted angry when C suggested she may put up Jason and that C feels she has to be guarded around D Also C asked if R was now deliberately trying to show her his package.

Jul 31 2002 23:30, Wed	Mirage	Forum: 073102 Post: 11729				Link
Josh mentioned that he was being punished for something by BB, and that is why...
they went to a rehearsal without the Internet. As soon as he said this, we get FOTH. I came in on the end of this conversation, but assume that 'without the Internet' is Josh's way of saying FOTH. So, can somebody out there watching the live feeds tell us more details on this, please? What does Josh think he is being punished for..?

Aug 01 2002 02:00, Thu	Quispa	Forum: 073102 Post: 11935		Parent	Root	Link
Re: Josh mentioned that he was being punished for something by BB, and that is why...
I heard the same thing ..but i thought what i heard was josh saying he "didnt" get punished by bb because of rehearsal not being on the internet?

Jul 31 2002 23:31, Wed	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 073102 Post: 11732				Link
Tense words between Josh and Danielle
Josh said Danielle was yelling at him during the HOH competition rehearsal and that he only made a backhand comment about it because the internet was off and they were in rehearsal. FOTH I get the feeling he is telling her he would have a lot more to say about her yelling if *WE* were involved

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