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Aug 02 2002 00:06, Fri supercnForum: 080202 Post: 13354    Link
F3 - Roddy's story about meeting the Pope, Jason's brother (more)
Jason told a story about being picked on when he was smaller and his brother, in diapers, went over and beat the bullying kid with a stick.

R says he met the Pope.

R sounds serious but joking at the same time. R says his father is a career volunteer and set up an exhibit at an art museum about the Etruscan people. Through friends of friends R's parents managed to meet the people who help care for a particular wing of the Vatican. They were invited and went to Vatican City... he describes in detail the beauty and refinement of the place.

R jokes that they said "If Malcom Forbes walked into this house, he'd say This Is One Big F***ing House!" to which they laugh. They talk about how it is seeing the Pope in mass... we get a just like seeing REO Speedwagon live joke out of Roddy. (referencing tonight's show)

He talks about how he got up close to the Pope. Says the Pope delivers the Mass in "about a million different languages, Japanese inclusive" which particularly amazed him. Roddy explains how a bunch of nuns started a frenzy of trying to move people and pull the Pontiff back so they can touch the Holy Father.

R says that the Pope spoke to his whole family and there are pictures where you can see the angry Nuns in the background, like "hoodlums at an English soccer game".

(BB: Danielle, Please Go To The Diary Room.)

R says the Pope introduced himself and asked him if there was anything he could do.. and R jokes that he almost made a joke at the Pope, he almost said "Yeah, can you validate my parking?" He asked him to pray for a couple of people, accepted a ring as a gift. Tells them that they then got to go to the Pontiff's summer home outside Rome. He describes machine guns and "all kinds of craziness" to get in there.. adds that only so many Christian workers have even gotten in there to see it and he says it was such an experience.

G jokes that "you got a guy". M seems exasperated and says "That's good". More talk around the dinner table... posting

Aug 02 2002 00:15, Fri SharkyForum: 080202 Post: 13391    Link
Jason said (teasingly) "ok, just so I know . . . how did everybody vote tonight?" N/T

Aug 02 2002 00:18, Fri SharkyForum: 080202 Post: 13407    Link
Chiara lies on kitchen table, on lazy susan "for your dining pleasure tonight, chiara" and more rude comments. NT

Aug 02 2002 00:25, Fri AnonymousForum: 080202 Post: 13438    Link
Josh breaks the rules
Josh in HOH with Gerry and pulls off his mike and says I want no one to hear. He then whispers to Gerrry's ear why it is important that Gerry make his key the first (the reason we don't know as his mike was off). Gerry says "if that is the reason how can I not". If that does not call for a peanalty nom.....

Aug 02 2002 00:26, Fri Jester's TearForum: 080202 Post: 13445  ParentRootLink
Sorry, about annonymous forgot to add user name NT

Aug 02 2002 00:25, Fri KatForum: 080202 Post: 13440    Link
Josh & Gerry "bonding" about the noms in hoh room. Ger says L for sure & either, C or E. The J took off mic "so the net can't hear this" to whisper>>
in Gerry's ear a special request about the keys. Said it meant S-O-O-O much to him. Sounded like he wanted Gerry to give him the first key to show he was "saved".

Aug 02 2002 00:25, Fri JetForum: 080202 Post: 13442    Link
Gerry and Josh (spoiler)
Gerry is falling for Josh's bullshit hook line and sinker. Just promised Josh that either Lisa or Kiki will be put up.

Aug 02 2002 00:26, Fri MirageForum: 080202 Post: 13447    Link
Josh and the Nomination Keys
Josh asked Gerry at least twice now to place his key in the first slot during the nomination process. He said it was a signal of sorts. Gerry's response the first time was I was planning to do that anyway. A few minutes ago Josh goes back in the HOH room, takes off his microphone, and appears to whisper what the signal is about. Gerry thinks it is great. It sounds like maybe it is meant to be a signal to Amy. Did anybody out there understand what he whispered?

Aug 02 2002 00:30, Fri MirageForum: 080202 Post: 13461    Link
They're starting to line up to see the new HOH!
Josh just left after a few visits and Dani is in the room right now. Hmmm, I wonder who else will finally decide to talk to Gerry?

Aug 02 2002 00:30, Fri Jester's TearForum: 080202 Post: 13466    Link
Daniell follows Josh's queue and goes into HOH.
Feeds keep breaking up. Gerry seems to be letting know that Daniell is OK (fool). Feeds keep switching to Hot tub. they leave the room and Danielle says "whatever it is, I will leave it as it is" I assume a reference to veto.

Aug 02 2002 00:31, Fri supercnForum: 080202 Post: 13469    Link
F1 - Josh and Gerry meet, Gang of 4 in Hot Tub, Danielle also meets with G (long)
F1 popped into the HoH real fast for a quick strategy session with Gerry and Josh.


Josh says he did a great thing, mentions what he just said in there (?). Josh tells Gerry he apologizes a million times, Gerry says he's sorry too. He's apologizing profusely. Josh telling him how what he did hurt. Gerry says "we're back". They shake hands. Josh quietly goes "let's ride this f***er"...

Josh asks if our new HoH has decided for sure that it's two females going on the block. Jo mentions Chiara and Lisa specifically. G says one most definitely, Lisa - he may put C up, he may play E against her - but it's to make sure Lisa is going out (!). Josh nods and instructs Gerry to make sure about the key placement thing for nomination. G tells him (again) that he probably would have done that anyway. I guess it's about the marriage proposal, and G says "how can I not?" and they share a hug.


Just as fast, we're outside at the Hot Tub. Roddy, Chiara, Lisa and Eric are around and in the HT....

Roddy says by some chance 2 "of us" go up.. Lisa says it won't be him(R) it'll be one of us. Not finishing the earlier thought, R says that Gerry told him his reason for keeping Josh around is to make it to the end game. Josh arrived and they stopped quickly, Marcellas arrives too to put his feet in the Tub.


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Gerry meeting with Danielle in HoH. G says he wouldn't mind seeing D win a half million.. she needs a house. G says "part of what Josh says is true".. and D is agreeing. Feed rudely switches back out to baseball chatter out at the Tub!

Back to HoH thankfully. G says D won him over with the BS about washing hands. G says "Just tell me!" Another view change. And back. And over again. Back outside. Okay, they're passing the Citrona around at BB feed control. More sporadic switching on F1.

They apparently finish up and D says "I know you understand me".. and tells him "Whatever you do, leave as is". G says "mm-hmm" and declares his intent to go Hot Tubbin'...

(ed: more of D/G HoH meeting in reply below)

Aug 02 2002 00:55, Fri wratForum: 080202 Post: 13554  ParentRootLink
more on Danielle's HOH room meeting with Gerry
Just based on memory, since it wasn't in the last update (I think it was missed Because both Cam 1 and Cam 3 were on HOH but one of them kept switching to the hot tub and the other stayed on HOH).

In HOH when Gerry was telling her he would nominate two from the couples, Danielle also said something to the effect that the girls were easier for her to control, but she didn't say this quite so directly... instead she followed up her cryptic comment by a line about "i'm speaking in code." Gerry didn't seem to react one way or another to her suggestion.

Aug 02 2002 00:33, Fri JokeretteForum: 080202 Post: 13480    Link
Dani tells Gerry - :"keep it like it is". He talks about the handwashing. Then out to the hot-tub... talking about WIll and his lies NT

Aug 02 2002 00:39, Fri supercnForum: 080202 Post: 13509    Link
HGs wonder about the Nadia Comenechi thing from Julie tonight or if it was even said, E says he'll ask the DR. NT

Aug 02 2002 01:20, Fri JokeretteForum: 080202 Post: 13630    Link
Roddy/Josh strategizing: Josh tells Roddy that Eric will be up (long)
Josh/Roddy strategy

He tells Ro he can't put Gerry up next week as he's made a deal. Jo will tell Gerry that he's in a tricky position for the veto, as he made deal with Er/Ro for 6 weeks.

Jo tells RO that Gerry is putting up Lisa/Eric. Josh says people are afraid to use veto, and Roddy says it makes more sense to use it. Josh says it depends week to week.

He will tell Gerry if Eric goes up, he will have problems. Kiki he has no issue with. He's going to try to het Eric off, but he says Lisa will go for sure. He said Gerry doesn't trust the couples. Jo also explained to Dani, and Dani feels there's an X on her back because she's a girl. Jo made no promises to Dani except to be straightforward. Which isn't a promise to keep her around.

About the key, Gerry will put it first. Then he tells Roddy he farts too much.

Josh says either he's being played or Ge loves him. Ro says Ge needs Josh. Josh says he doesn't want Eric up. Josh wants girls to know he won't put them up.

Josh loves Kiki. Lisa lied to him about Tonya, "went with her heart". He feels he got fed a story. He said he wouldn't go against group. His only real promise is to Ro and Eric. He says if those guys screw him over he goes (in DR). IE if Josh screws Roddy over, there'd be no foreseeing it. He says he can't express this to Gerry. He told Gerry he'd break up couples. But he told Gerry the 2 guys backed him.

Roddy says don't you think I'm ahead of you on this? Wait till you see the tape. If you called me the biggest [censored] in town, nothing is happening to me. Josh says I could tell you were never worried. But there's pressure from others. Roddy says to get my ass out? Jo sas not you, but you, eric looked as power that needs to be broken up. All 4 of you.

Roddy thanks him, and Josh says "I look at you as a close friend in the future… I'd love to win… I'm not getting into this." And Eric busts out looking for poker players. Roddy and Josh fall silent, for a brief while.

Josh says Da and Marc look at Josh as a pure independent, or like he's being used.

And they enter the house.

Aug 02 2002 01:46, Fri JokeretteForum: 080202 Post: 13667    Link
Dani/Kiki talking men, sex, Roddy, and more
Eric/Lisa asleep, whilst Dani and Kiki are talking about their lives and telling tales. Dani asks Kiki if they ever made it in HoH and Kiki says no. Dani says I'd have been on top of him making out. Kiki says I only would do that on top of covers. He is very… and says they asked her in DR. You're not shy, he is? And she said she was shy, Roddy said have you seen yourself in shower with Tonya lately?

Kiki says Roddy asks her often to makeout, and Dani says you just pounce on him. I'd have jumped on him! She tells her it would be romantic. (All they think about is how it's going to look, throughout this convo.)

Dani tells her to get HoH and kiss intimately so people can see they care. Dani lays out a whole scene.. he touches her cheek gently, and on and on. Kiki says if she gets HoH she'll do it.

They talk about HoH and how disappointed they were. Dani said a lot of it was guessing.

Dani says Roddy has a huge sex drive, and kiki says he has older parents who are watching. Dani harps on kisses. She mentions the tension that builds on a certain movie.

Kiki says she can't even watch him work out any more, and Dani says women have sex drives and needs, and "God help my husband, please give him strength! I need 2 minutes and I'm there." Kiki says 5 minutes.

Kiki never thought she had a big sex drive until she had sex with someone she really wanted to have sex with. Then freaks that she said that, and Dani cracks up. Marc enters.

Aug 02 2002 01:55, Fri JokeretteForum: 080202 Post: 13686    Link
Sex, poker and general bs...
C4
Dani says kissing is so important. Sex is over quick. As a woman you need that touch. Dogs have sex. We need that caress.

Back to the men. Josh/Gerry Eric playing something. They're laughing. Oh, it's the poker game. They play, laugh, discuss the cards.

C4
Back to the girls, and now Kiki is talking about men who give good backrubs. It tells her a lot about how he'll be… and Lisa asks her about Roddy. She says he touches her everywhere, and holds her in bed. She says that through years she lost that with her ex man, and it wore off. It's different because it's a new person. And the Ash thing went wrong relationwise, so she longs for Roddy's touch. She was with someone after Ash but his touch was wrong, forced. This is the guy she can't talk about. FOTH

Aug 02 2002 02:01, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 13697    Link
Cycling the Feeds:
F 3 has a stock night vision shot of Roddy and Chi in the HoH bed while Chi is actually in the HRD talking to Dani and Lisa. I've heard of these things, but have avoided them so far. Dumb.

F 4 (what's with these #$%^ commercials? That close-up picture of Gerry creeps me out. If you are quick enough and double click on the button, you can usually get rid of it). We have the aforementioned chat between D, L & C in HRD. Romantic talk: Roddy and Chi, Movie romance, kissing, women's needs. Chi says, "I never thought that I had a big sex drive until I had sex with a guy I really wanted to have sex with." They all laugh. Lisa says, "that sounds really bad." Dani talking about the problems of romance with kids and the importance of kissing.

F 1 & 2 is the boys playing poker (Josh, Roddy, Eric & Gerry) Marc is elsewhere. He just visited the girls in HRD to complain that the boys didn't want to play with him, but when he heard the talk in there, he beat a hasty retreat. They are now teaching Gerry a new game and the feed changes to the girls again. They are talking about Roddy's touch and how important the touch is. She says, "I always fear when a guy gives me a back-rub, like oh God, this is going to tell me everything about him." She is deprived of the right touch for a long time. Her b/f Ashley has lost the touch, but 'snap, snap' apparently has it. "Snap, snap' leads us to FOTFH.

Aug 02 2002 02:09, Fri JokeretteForum: 080202 Post: 13720    Link
Doritos, poker and yet more sex talk
C4
Back from FOTH and back to poker. Josh, bah. Changing feeds.

C1
Dani and Lisa and Kiki munching Doritos and sex talk and how to tell guys what they like. Dani says if she doesn't get to see her husband she'll die, and they wonder if they get sequestered till the end. They don't know (haven't been told). Dani says she only wants one night. She doesn't care once she gets kicked out.

Jason has made something and brings it in (looks like pancakes). He leaves and Kiki yells "We're talking about sex, you coming back in?" Click, as the door shuts.

FOTH

Aug 02 2002 02:14, Fri AnonymousForum: 080202 Post: 13727    Link
UGH!
Front of the house on all feeds... this after the idiotic talk between Lisa and Chiara (and poor Dani) about when their "men" say "hi" to them.

Aug 02 2002 02:21, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 13735    Link
Cycling the Feeds:
(Why are they punishing us for what they talk about? That was a long FOTFH)

F 3 & 4 is the card game. (They are talking in terms of betting money, is it pretend money or IOU's for after the show? ) Gerry seems to be out of the game now. Someone is in the kitchen banging around.

F 1 & 2 is the HRD chat with snacks now: crunchy snacks. The general topic seems unchanged. Jason enters (with permission) to offer something he describes as layers of jelly (it looks like pancakes with jelly in between). He make it with his own hands (Marc advised). Josh comes in to say sarcastically, "I just want to thank you for eating my sandwich." A girl replies, "What sandwich?" Josh says, "Exactly!" and leaves. The girls discuss this. He seemed serious about it, they say, but they have no idea what he is talking about. FOTFH again.

We return to Dani talking about Amy and her relationship with "PWS". Now crapping on her about they way she talks about and relates to her dog.

F 3 & 4 has Gerry back in the game with Roddy talking about a big stakes poker game he was in. Eric talks of some kid in collage who stole all his CD's and sold them to other students. They are all eating something too. It is lip-smacking good, and sticky, whatever it is.

[This is a quiet night, Thursdays always are - I will monitor for another hour or two, but will only update if something actually seems to happen.]

Aug 02 2002 03:00, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 13769    Link
Finally found out what happened to Jason and Marc, they are playing cards in the dining room. >>>
Dani has come in and is looking over Jason's shoulder and he is acting nervous. She says, "What's the matter, don't you trust me?" Jasnon says "No, it's not that. You might tell him something" "Did you see me do that" Dani is effectively telling him how to play his hand and he is objecting ineffectually. (Jason is just too polite at times) Chi is lying on the counter and singing while wiggling her feet in the air "That's the story of, that's the glory of . . ." We get away with it once, but when she starts again FOTFH

Short break. Now the boys are starting over to include the girls. Chi is up on the lazy-Susan in the middle of the table twirling herself around. Now she stops and is playing her hand from there in a cross-legged position. Jason suggested that they play "spin the table" No reaction from Chi (surprise), but she soon drifts into dirty talk and insults with Marc. This game is Marc, Dani, Jason, Chi and Lisa. Lots of ghetto talk going on, not exclusively limited to Dani and Marc, but they are taking the lead.

The other 4 guys are still plying their game in the LR.

This doesn't constitute "something actually happening," but it is different. Back into monitor mode.]

Aug 02 2002 03:18, Fri KatForum: 080202 Post: 13780    Link
R has been going on & on with G about how when people out of the house see deals being made, like R & G making deal on basketball court to keep each>>
other in & then see that they went back on it, that will insure they will not be voted by the others to win the money. (I thought R told Jos that he was s-o-o-o assured & comfortable thaat G would not put him up because of the agreement he (R) made with G. Apparently, he is not so sure.)

Aug 02 2002 03:20, Fri KatForum: 080202 Post: 13782  ParentRootLink
Addendum: In other words......why is R working so hard to drive that point home to G if it isn't to make sure G doesn't nom him?!! NT

Aug 02 2002 03:22, Fri KatForum: 080202 Post: 13783  ParentRootLink
Addendum 2: And now R is telling G that he has no problem with ousting C. Ha ha! Way to go R.

Aug 02 2002 03:28, Fri KatForum: 080202 Post: 13790  ParentRootLink
So what this amounts to is R, without coming out & asking G not to nom E, letting G know that noming C would be ok with him. Effectively replacing E>>
with C as the other nom with L.

Aug 02 2002 03:24, Fri augieForum: 080202 Post: 13785    Link
Roddy pressuring Gerry in the HOH. Roddy stressing that they made a deal and Gerry shouldn't be selfish and go back on their deal because people will
see it and say Gerry lied. Roddy tells Gerry that "after all they are the smartest people there" and that he knows it should be Gerry, Eric and himself at the end. Even though he and Kiki are close and they flirt, if she F* up she would have to go. Roddy keeps asking how Gerry sees it in the future and mentions Dani to G, saying he loves her, but she worries him - Dani would get all the girls together and that would be bad for the guys (they would be ganged up on). Roddy says if Kiki were to F* up and say she was alligned more with Jo or somebody well, she'd just have to go because R didn't agree with how to end up the winner. Roddy is hammering away that this is "something to think about" and all the girls are pooling together. Roddy throws in that he feels sorry for Lori and sorry for Amy.

Aug 02 2002 03:29, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 13792    Link
Gerry and Roddy in HoH. Gerry says "Call in your marker. You're safe. Call in your marker. What do you want? Do you want Chiara safe?"
(I have no recollection of there having been any second part to the agreement they made before). Roddy doesn't say what he wants. He is saying that whatever Gerry does it will be a problem for him in the future (because of the backlash of the evictee's friends), but that he (Roddy) can prevent veto from being used. He is prepared to sacrifice Lisa. He points out that many of the alliances that have people upset, don't exist anymore. He is suggesting Josh in a subtle way, as an obvious choice. Gerry doesn't disagree. In fact, he agrees and makes no reference to the fact that he may have an arrangement with Josh.

Roddy is masterful in flattering Gerry and being sincere. He says that he's tried to think of this from every direction. Gerry seems to be accepting Roddy as a wise and impartial advisor. Roddy talks of future considerations "If I have something in the future (HoH) we can talk again" Gerry seems to now be admitting that he is committed to Lisa but is undecided about the second. Roddy continues to slip in shots against Josh and his history with Gerry and his playing the game all the time. He councils patience, because what he does now could eliminate all chance for Gerry to win the game.

Roddynow drawing out Gerry and asking him how he sees things going in the next few weeks. "I've tried to think about it and I just don't know". Roddyis now flattering Lori and saying that he got to know her pretty well and had great respect for her, and he feels sorry for her going. Admitting that he is prepared to sacrifice Chi, and that that won't change him asking her out for many dates. He is playing into a fear of the girls getting together and being a real threat. Roddy is saying that if he gets to the end and has to rely on one person's word, it would be Gerry's. He says he will say nothing against Josh (but he has). He gently draws out Gerry on Dani and they agree that she is a threat. Now he is appealing to Gerry's education by trashing everyone because they don't accept new information and only want to talk about TV and celebrities. They don't want to talk about ideas.

Aug 02 2002 03:59, Fri wratForum: 080202 Post: 13808  ParentRootLink
while that's an excellently written summary, it's not necessarily the case that Gerry is taken in by any of this, which your writeup implies .nt.

Aug 02 2002 04:06, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 13810    Link
Cycling the Feeds:
F 4: Lights out at 1:45 BBT.

Gerry says, "I worked as an actor for 15 years" He later corrects that to 13 years. He was in two companies that won Tony awards back to back. Now talking education and learning disabilities and how to overcome or approach those problems. Roddy talks of his childhood dyslexia.

F 1 & 2: Elsewhere, Marc and Jason talk in HRD but camera switches to Eric and Lisa in bed together. They are talking about their relationship. Lisa is concerned about what Eric really wants from her. She is getting mixed messages when he seems to hold her off in public and has suggested that they cool it in front of others. Meanwhile, he is happy to snuggle with her in private at night. (is she finally getting a clue, or is she just being insecure). On her request, Eric inspects the bandage on her butt to be sure it is secure and is covering everything.

Camera switches back to the HRD. Chi and Jason appear to be sharing the big bed (it's hard to be sure, because he is sitting up on it drinking a coffee). Marc has the bed by the door. Unimportant chit-chat. Jason appears about to excuse himself to go to bed elsewhere. He politely refuses a chance to rub Chi's feet. Dani and Eric in bathroom. Eric is bad mouthing someone (Josh or Gerry, probably Josh). He reports that Lisa's butt is much better. It hurts far less, but they have given her the option to still take the Codine at bedtime. Lisa is apparently reluctant to do so because she doesn't want to look like a pill-popper. Eric was about to say how he argued against that - but we got FOTFH instead.

F 3 & 4 is still Gerry and Roddy talking, but it is general stuff now. Just harmless story telling.

Back to F1. Everyone in the HRD is getting read for bed. Some concern about where Jason is going to sleep. Dani suggests that he and her alternate nights in her bed or on the floor. He is going to sleep in Lisa's old bed. No one wants to sleep in Gerry's old bed. Jason is now rubbing Chi's feet and telling a story. "Jason? Stop talking and rub" Talking about their mutual crushes on each other and how he is helpless against her appeal. A few more ribald comments follow

That's it for me. No nudity, no sex, no violence, and little likelihood of any happening. TTFN

Aug 02 2002 04:07, Fri supercnForum: 080202 Post: 13811    Link
F3 - Gerry and Josh whispering. Jo says he has to throw veto to not break a promise to E to veto him if he goes up. G: The #1 target is Lisa NT

Aug 02 2002 04:17, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 13825    Link
Chiara now getting a foot rub from GERRY!
Started with Jason giving the rub in the HRD with Marcellas watching on. Gerry comes in and sits on the bed explaining reflexology to Jason while he picks up Chiara's other foot and demonstrates. Danielle walks in with an unbeleiving face. Gerry explains which part of the foot corresponds with her sex organs. She screams that she's being double teamed. Then mentions she's getting excited by a virgin a married man and a gay guy.

Aug 02 2002 05:46, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 13904    Link
C/D/M meaningless convo in HRD Jo/R playing chess on couches, no convo NT

Aug 02 2002 06:01, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 13908    Link
HRD going to sleep. Jo/R decide to play basketball...THUMP...THUMP...now decide to take off mikes hoping to draw a loudspeaker call from BB NT

Aug 02 2002 07:06, Fri SynapticSpiralForum: 080202 Post: 13913    Link
Wow! Jo and R in backyard talking, Josh said he's only made an offical DEAL with R and E...lied. He has made a DEAL with Gerry. Basically, he's lying
through his teeth to R. R trying to get more info out of him. Josh may be slipping.
R telling Jo about his earlier convo with G about seeing tapes and lying. Jo agreeing.
R and Jo discussing how Lisa is not involved in any alliances, coalitions, Jo saying that's bad.
R hopes they don't play the same game for HOH. Says it's interesting, but he doesn't want to study everyone's lives.

J saying he's doing whatever he can to save R and E til the end.

R saying M thinks everyone is out to get him. Then says perception is reality here.

J thinks if it's between E and R, E would win if it's a tie. (america voting) Saying there's 8 votes, he needs 5. You don't beat the firefighter (b/c sept. 11), R mentions his hating humans thing.
He says if it comes down to that, J will vote for R.

J: as the numbers dwindle, you, me and E get stronger every week.

J: I know what I'm doing, I'm not a f'n idiot. (author's note: LMAO!!!!!)

J: I've never promised anyone anything that I can't uphold.

(meanwhile R is just saying yeah, uh huh...)

J: I play both sides of the fence.

J: what's good for me, is what's good for you.
R: That's interesting, it's interesting how things are turning out.

R: after this week, you have no idea...
J: I feel more confident about this week than any other week. My biggest fear was Lisa getting HOH.

Josh talking about Tonya and where he stands with her now because of the (possible) lying.mixing up of stories between E using L or L using E or whatever that deal was.
(Speculating the two of them - R and Jo in the final 2)

They're finally going to bed, I think. And so am I.





Aug 02 2002 07:13, Fri SynapticSpiralForum: 080202 Post: 13914    Link
Josh talking about deal he made with A to give her that one vote but says he didn't cut hands and shake in blood, or anything.... (to R) NT

Aug 02 2002 07:27, Fri Not AOLForum: 080202 Post: 13916    Link
4:am Josh and Roddy have been talking by the hot tub
They mainly have been confirming their loyalty to each other. Josh and Roddy were talking about the final vote and which housemate would vote for whom. Josh says that there is no way Roddy could beat Eric, since it will be two weeks after the anniversary of 9/11. If there is a 4 to 4 tie the vote will go to the public and America will vote for the fireman.
They have been going over voting scenarios for the past half hour. Josh says Roddy's only hope is the take him to the finals. Josh says there could be a backlash on Roddy since he controlled the game throughout the show. And he wouldn't get the five votes needed to win 500K.

They finally go in around 4:11 am house time. They go to the bathroom. They are now talking in the living room. They are now talking about Amy's vote. Amy will vote for Josh in the final.(ed. These guys are so confident.)

They say Amy wants Dani to win in the final. Roddy says the last week is going to be fun. They are assuming Lisa is gone this week.

Josh is talking about the final. There is no way Roddy could beat Jason or Dani. Eric would be a close vote.

Josh is saying Lisa is gone. But the devistating blow next week would be if Roddy and Eric were nominated. By the only possiblity Marcellas. Roddy says if he is nominated, he feels people would use the opportunity to get him out of the house.

Josh says that is where he comes in. He says he is a master spin doctor. He is as good as Bill Clinton is spinning things.

Roddy says when it gets down to three the house will be like this quiet. Roddy says he doesn't want to get lost in the pack. He wants to finish near the top of Big Brother at least.

Josh says it is nice to have a Gerry and Marcellas to put up. Roddy was wondering who Amy did not like. Josh says Chiara, Gerry, Tonya, and Lisa.

Roddy says when he walks by the wall he sometimes wishes there were less keys.

THE ONE THING RODDY IS SCARED OF IS IF THEY MAKE HIM LIVE IN A HOTEL ALL SUMMER. Josh says he would bring Merritt.
Josh says the one thing Big Brother would NOT do is keep them in a prison all summer. They both say that would be NUTS.

Josh says locking them up would make no sense. No one from the outside could convince them to change thier votes.

Roddy goes to the bathroom.

Aug 02 2002 07:32, Fri Not AOLForum: 080202 Post: 13917    Link
Funny. Roddy says he CANNOT imagine Lori stuck in a hotel room right now.
Roddy comes out of the bathroom. He talks with Josh in the living room. They say there only get $750 a week. The show is cheap. They are very concerned about the prize structure. So, there is no way they have houseguest still locked up in hotel rooms. That would be tying them up for the summer for peanuts.
Roddy says he cannot begin to imagine Lori is stuck in a hotel room.

(ed. They just started talking about this out of the blue. I don't think BB clued them in on it. It was just Roddy's worst fear.)

The both go to bed at 4:35 am house time.

Aug 02 2002 07:43, Fri GenieForum: 080202 Post: 13919    Link
Jo and R talk in Backyard and LR (long)
Jo and R are talking about the different combinations of who will be put up and in which order. Jo wants to make it to week 6. His friends didn't think that he could make it to 6 weeks because of the way he acts. Jo is pretty sure that Tonya won't vote for him if he lasts until the finals. They move into the LR since it's cold. More talk about who will be put up in what combinations. R is worried that M will put him up if M gets HOH. Jo and R agree that G will be put up with the safest person in the house within the next couple of weeks. R expressing that he does not care much if Kiki is put up for noms. He says that he was made to feel like he was doing something wrong if he even spent a little time with A.

Jo saying that if he gets voted out, he wants Merritt in his hotel room. R is wondering if Jo can do that. R adding that it would be terrible to be in a hotel room for 10 weeks. Jo doesn't think that the show will do that since it costs a lot to stay in a hotel. R says that it wouldn't be fair for the HGs who are voted out to be put in a hotel and earn as much as someone who stayed in until the end, but didn't win. Jo says that the show people can take the t.v. from his room as long as he could have Merritt. R wonders if you get to watch the BB3 shows in the hotel once you get voted out. Finally, R and Jo agree that BB3 would not sequester them in a hotel for the remaining time of the show since the show is so cheap. They get the cheapest brands of everything so the show would not be able to afford all those weeks in a hotel. They calculate that it would cost the show about $1000/person per week to keep them in a hotel.

Finally, Jo and R got to bed.

Aug 02 2002 08:17, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 13936    Link
Jo/R overnight chat 3:15-3:30 Hamster time
Jo; I don't mind Lisa gone after that cock and bull story

Discussion of origins of "cock and bull story"

R: All the assholes online "Josh is giving a fake entomology of a word,the derivitive is untrue"

Jo; Unbelievable. After the card games,the camraderie,he puts up the girls and Eric avoids the veto like the plague.Eric has told her he favors you over her and if he uses the veto you go in,which isn't true but that's what he tells her.Think about the war it would start if he saves his girl to ruin your girl

R; Yeah, He realizes it's a bad idea.

Discussion of the ease of knowing whether or not to use the veto thus far and not wanting to lose the food comp.

Jo: I really think if he puts the girls up everyone will let it ride.Everyone knows if Lisa and Kiki go up Lisa is going down. Why would anyone expose themselves?

R: But if you get the veto...

Jo: I don't f'in touch it if it's the two girls. And Jerry knows now I have to use the veto to save Eric if I get it.

R: He wants the kid (Jason)out but at the same time if he puts the kid up...

Jo: Then the girl goes out and he's made a new enemy

R: I could promise that the kids not going anywhere

Jo: So can I. If the kid goes up with who?

R:Anybody right now.The kids safer than you and I are,right now.After this week it's a different story.

Jo: So the kid knows that him and Kiki..you evict Kiki?

R: I don't know if that's...that would be like if it's you and Eric on the block.Kiki's not the one he's going after.If you put the kid up first and get the kid out (stumbling over his words)then you put Kiki and Eric up...let me put it this way,your stock with Kiki,it's f'in huge

Jo: I know in my heart she votes Eric and Jason out before me.

R:But if we don't save Kiki's ass
Jo: then we taint that
R: It's gone
Jo:but if we guarentee her it's 5-1
R: I don't think that's good enough anymore
Jo: So we veto her and the kid goes up
R: I'm gonna see what he's gonna do but if he puts the kid up vs. Lisa at least you got a freebie with the veto
Jo: I'm not touchin it if I know Lisa's gone
R: but this way I'm safe with the kid I promised I'd save him and if you saved him you'd be golden with him the rest of the game.

Discussion that absolutely NOTHING happens in the mornings. If you're tight in bed at night you get evicted

R: If it got down to the end and I had to f you over I swear to God I'd keep myself from winning. If everybody knew we were close and I stuck it in your ear... that's the thing about this group, if you scum one over...everybody's been so straight

Jo: You write yourself a ticket to nothing

Speech by Roddy of his honesty and how he's responsible for Gerry wanting to keep Josh around. He thinks the Gerry Josh combo is good for him. Josh mentions it's a two week deal and Roddy says he did the same with Jason.Josh says he can still vote Gerry out,just not nominate him or veto out his choices

Aug 02 2002 10:01, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 13985    Link
Jo/R overnight chat 3:30-3:45
R:Ya see Marcellas is like,it's uncomfortable to put the guy up cause I love him so much. It's not a promise but I'm not puttin him up unless I know he'll win. He's so likeable it would be hard to be here with him

Jo: Would you put up Jerry next week?
R: It's possible,just because I don't know who'll be in the house to support it. If you're gone there's big trouble in the world of voting. If one of our buddies goes, or you,or Eric, or if I go and we go after somebody that's not totally independant it's a bad move cause then you don't have numbers for the rest of the show.

More talk of going to bed early and that no one knows what's going on in Lisa's head,even Eric.Decide Lisa is gone.

Jo: Marcellas knows the true story of what went on the first week and not for nothin Lisa put him up not me

R: So did I. I'm sure he'd be happy,anyone who got put up would be happy to put the other guy back up. Eric said that he would do this, if we needed it,that if one day we had to put someone up. Like Gerry vs. Him.

Jo: Say Lisa leaves.Eight people in the house

R: I hope we don't keep plaing the same F'in game or HOH. I'd spend the rest of my days studying everyone's life.

Jo: Take that example tho' Eight people in the house. Three votes, no tiebreaker. Three solid people. You want to put Gerry and Eric up. Me you and Jason guaranteed. Danielle,Marcellas would vote Eric out. Next week is the only time we can use Eric.

R: That veto kills.Say you won it next week. Make a name up; Marcellas, and Eric will let you put him up.

Jo: And Danielle wins,vetoes out Marcellas

R: and you can't put her up

Jo: and I can't put Gerry up. I'd have to expose myself as a F'in piece of [censored] and put Gerry up to keep my true word..that puts me in a bind.

R: If there's any believable story it's Gerry lying to you.

Jo: I know. I mean I know that's what I have to go with

R:It's so hard. I still think there's a couple of weeks of relative painlessness compared to down the road.

Jo: My God,you know what it'll be like with Dani & Marcellas on the block

Talk goes to endgame if it comes down to E/Jo/R. 4-4 tie, America votes. We cant' beat the firefighter on 1 year anniversary of Sept.11

R: We've got a close race if it's you and me.

Jo:I feel in my heart you win. If I even make the finals I feel I've won. 2nd place? I win. I'll be honest with you, that's the fight I'm fighting. You and Eric are fighting for first. To me 2nd place, I could change my life. If it's the three of us neither of you can afford a $450,000 mistake by gettin rid of me. I'd rather you win than Eric. I'm tellin you at the end you've got my vote if I'm not there. Lori votes against you, Amy told me today that she feels you controlled the game, she votes against you, Tonya...there's the first three bam bam bam voting for Eric. You've got to sweep Marcellas, Danielle, Jason and Gerry, lose one and you lose. I'm telling you there are people voting against you. I don't think you beat Eric right now. There are eight votes out there, you need five.

R: A 4-4 tie America votes? Jesus. It doesn't help when they tell you that you don't like Humans either. That's excellant. That's F'in excellant. It doesn't help that you Tonya Amy were close at all.

Jo: I'm going to make some Diary Room comments about that. You know, I wouldn't know whose vote to eliminate.

R: You know what's F'in funny is that the three of us might be the next three out

Jo: If you'd have told me Me Marcellas and Gerry would all make the final eight...that one of us would make the final six after that first week and a half, I'd say you and I weren't in the same house. Would have laughed in your face.This game you can't tell. I gotta believe as the numbers dwindle you me and Eric get stronger and stronger

Aug 02 2002 11:10, Fri SharkyForum: 080202 Post: 14029    Link
M & G in HOH
M trying to get G to put up E vs. R but G seems set on nominating L along with another, possibly E. Apparently, D has asked G to not put up Ch so he won't do that unless someone uses Veto. M advises against putting up a couple. M warns G that everyone in the house is playing everyone and G thanks him for the heads up.

HG in lockdown, M & G only ones up.

Aug 02 2002 11:14, Fri KarasmylesForum: 080202 Post: 14035    Link
Ger and Mar in HOH talking strategy. Ger saying he will put up Lisa and Eric. Something about Lisa being stressed out and needing to go..more
He also thinks Eric is a strong player. Mar saying that in retrospect he would have put up Rod and Eric because they are the biggest threats, and he is trying to convince Ger to do the same. Ger has made a deal with Rod (from last week) that he will not put him up, and he is sticking to that. He also made that deal with Josh not to put him up, and he is sticking to that too. He is saying that he would like to see himself, Mar and Dani be the final 3.
Now Mar leaves HOH to try to go potty, and Ger gets dressed. Other feeds are out and no one else seems to be up. BB ,however, just gave them 1 hr to get up and start the day.

Aug 02 2002 11:22, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 14044    Link
Jo/R overnight chat 3:55-4:10 Hampster time
Jo: i do feel if L goes on the block with C,I'm going to be around for a few weeks. I don't see me going anywhere for a few weeks.

R: Yeah. It's funny, one thing I'm not happy about this is that ,you know, if you have an impression with these guys that you're strong it seems pretty easy for them once they leave to be angry at you.

Jo: That's what I'm saying is your weakness.

R: I was straightforward with everybody, I was honest.

Jo: You looked like you controlled the game. Amy said to me it's like you've played the game and then they let you back in the house. It's like it's predetermined for you. Like you know the outcome of every week.

R: You're the same way. You know what's going on.

Jo: I know what I'm doing. I'm no F'n idiot. It's good that I run around here like a nervous F'n chicken with it's head cut off. Stressed out of my skull.For a couple of weeks. It doesn't hurt me if I can survive that way. And it doesn't hurt you that that's how I'm surviving. In fact I know that Dani trusts me for that reason. Not that she doesn't trust you. They look at me different. I know I'm just as tight with you and Eric as the girls but they're not looking at me like that.Anything could happen in a week to change that and I'd lose all that support but I have an unwritten support with Dani. Never made any deal with her. What we talk about on a week to week basis,either one of us up and we're gone.There is strength in our independance, there's a unity there that's unspoken. She doesn't want to make a deal with me and I don't want to make a deal with her but, that's our deal.

R: Yeah I know. That's probably what you told her. You don't tell me that [censored]. You're the least independant guy here.

Jo: I know that. I don't disagree that I'm workin both sides of the fence but I know what I'm saying to people and what I'm not saying. I've never promised anyone anything that I can't uphold. I haven't put myself in the posistion that Lisa and Kiki did making two promises that will intersect each other within a F'n week of making it. That's why I can't put Gerry up next week cause I don't want to do that. I know I'm the least independant in the house. If other people don't know it, good for me. I'm telling you what's good for me is good for you.

R: It's interesting. It's interesting how it turned out

Jo: It's fun

R: It is fun. I'm just curious to find out what's gonna happen. I'm dying to know.

Jo: I know. I'm already thinkin of next weeks HOH and I could be on the block in 12 hours.

R: There's still 9 people in the house. We've been here for thirteen years.

Jo: We haven't gone anywhere. A quarter of the people are gone.

R: I almost feel like the ole crystal ball's breakin,after this week you have no idea.

Jo: I felt so much more confident this week. I knew what was going on in peoples heads. My biggest fear was someone from inside my group getting HOH, Lisa. The one problem with that early scenario, gettin the kid up, with Lisa vetoing the kid out is there's no F'n control over that veto game. There's no control in any of these games. There's no...here's what we're gonna do, there's none of that. There was a chance in that last veto game, keep kickin someone in the corner.

R: Yeah, I didn't much care for that game.

Jo: Even that last one, Dani wanted it, Dani got it. This one Eric wanted it, Eric got it.

R: You know I wanted the first one, the box game.

Jo: But you didn't do much to get it

R: Do you remeber what happened

Jo: Yeah, you made me an offer

R: The guy said... the first one that reacted to it... I said I wanted you to have my box

Jo: I fought 'em over the brownie one. Tying your hands behind your back certainly makes it more difficult to use your hands.

R: I was upset about the bird one too. Yeah I've thought about that. It's tough for me that some of the girls, you know Tonya, I loved Tonya. You seem to have gotten quite a bond with her

Jo: See I don't know what happened with that at the end. I'm not lookin at Tonya as a vote in my corner. Especially after that conversation, it was either Kiki or her, do you think that Lisa's using Eric or whatever, that was the only question asked to me. I remember getting the question wrong sayinf do I think Lisa's using ERIC. no no no do you think Eric's using Lisa. This is after I saw them hook up and I never told anyone those two hooked up.and I knew before anyone knew, it was like in the middle of the night and I woke up and they were F'n going at it and I never said a word to anyone about it. The fact that I knew that and I walk into this conversation...do you think...and I got the answer wrong you know, I go, I dunno and I knew and it came back to me that if anything, Eric's using Lisa because she's so vulnerable right now. Something that would never ever come out of my mouth. The fact that that got turned around to my saying both the guys are using the girls and it got to three independants, I know that Tonya had to be involved in that. I said something to Lisa and she said Oh you campaigned against Tonya. I said no I didn't. She said you put pressure on Jason. I said I never said a word to Jason. I never said a word to Danielle, those were the two swing votes. I said to Lisa I know that Tonya started telling stories about me and she smiled, she couldn't control it. So I know that [censored] came from Tonya. I don't know where that stands with her at the end I really don't. I think Tonya votes Eric over you and me. You said you wanted the nominations to stand and let's get rid of her. All the BeBe comments came out of your mouth. That's where I got the opinion Tonya's not going to vote for you at the end. The fact of the matter is I was up on the block with her and I did what I had to do to stay in this house. How she's gonna look at that I don't know. Amy's vote, I got. No way I gor Lori

R: I don't know my story with Lori either

Jo: I mean she blames me for all of it. She loved Eric, doesn't go your way in my opinion

Aug 02 2002 11:41, Fri karen72046Forum: 080202 Post: 14075    Link
Feed update 8:30 am house time
Feed 1...Chiara, Roddy and Danielle awake in HRD...C & R lying in bed drinking coffee, Danielle dressing...general chatter...nothing regarding nominations.


Feed 2....same as feed 1


Feed 3...Gerry, Marcellas, Eric in ktichen...again...unimportant chatter...(how funny that now Gerry has companions to drink coffee with...cam switched to the tiki room...Eric has gone into T room with Lisa.

Feed 4...Kitchen with Gerry, Jason and Marcellas. Gerry sitting drinking coffee..Jason and Marc doing dishes.

Aug 02 2002 11:43, Fri WhitehawkForum: 080202 Post: 14078    Link
Chiara just told Roddy, that after this it's over. The guy girl thing is over now. I can't understand the rest. NT

Aug 02 2002 12:54, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 14152    Link
Waiting for food competition. Roddy starts crying while telling a story from 3rd grade about friend with Leukemia. Chiwhora is smirking NT

Aug 02 2002 13:00, Fri Debra_KadabraForum: 080202 Post: 14156    Link
Oh my! Chiwhora's best friend since age 3 also had leukemia. Roddy doesn't smirk NT

Aug 02 2002 13:05, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14163    Link
Before food comp, Ger says that BB is annoyed that HGs are looking through shades during lockdown. A short FOTH, then G moves on. nt

Aug 02 2002 13:12, Fri TurboleeForum: 080202 Post: 14166    Link
food comp
food comp. about to start. HG's have been told by Gerry to really, really, really wash their hands, GOH, NT

Aug 02 2002 13:12, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14167    Link
Teams for food comp: Red: Josh, Dani, Chiara, Roddy. Blue: Eric, Marc, Lisa, Jason. G does not participate. nt

Aug 02 2002 13:21, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14178    Link
Food comp: quick peak at back yard - it is set up like a diner. Sign, counter, everything. (more)
Teams are lined at the counter - Gerry is talking in a Joisey accent (a la Sopranos) G: "At Gerry's Diner, you're not only allowed to eat all you can, it is in your best interest to do so." "This will separate the haves from the have notes."

Rules: Red team begins by selecting first 'eater' Blue team will then select 'eater' to go head-to-head against Red's eater.
Each team's eater goes to table. G will reveals first food items. 2 minute limit - Like "Name that tune" Eater will bid 'I can eat 2 cheeseballs in 2 minutes' - Bidding will go on until someone challenges the high bidder to eat that food. In two minutes, the bidder will have to eat what they bid. If they fail in 2 minutes, or blow chunks, the other team gets a point. If they succeed, they get the points. (posting)

Aug 02 2002 13:24, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14184  ParentRootLink
More rules inside
You may drink water as an eater.
First team to three points wins.
Losing team gets PBJ for a week PLUS ONE item they have successfully eaten during the contest.
You can only be an 'eater' one time for your team, even if you are outbid and never eat.

Aug 02 2002 13:28, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14188    Link
First up: Lisa vs. Chiara / First item: Brussel Sprouts / Chi bids 12, Lisa says "eat those sprouts" Winner inside
Chi loses for Red team

Aug 02 2002 13:33, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14192    Link
Next: Ja vs. Jo / Item: Twinkies / Ja bids 8, Jo says 'no way, eat them!" Winner inside
Jason wins for Blue

Aug 02 2002 13:38, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14195    Link
3rd: D vs E / Item: Jalapeno stuffed olives / Dani bids 15, Eric says "Eat 'em" Winner inside
Dani wins for Red

Aug 02 2002 13:44, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14203    Link
4th: R vs M / Item: Chicken Livers / Marc bids 5 - Roddy says "He'll gag after one bite" Winner inside
Marc barely eats the last one in time. Red says he spit some out, BB says Marc has officially won one point for Blue.

Aug 02 2002 13:54, Fri ManSydsMaForum: 080202 Post: 14219    Link
Blue Team wins Food Comp; PB&J for the Red team N/T

Aug 02 2002 14:05, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14239  ParentRootLink
Plus all the jalapeno stuffed olives they want. nt

Aug 02 2002 13:54, Fri TurboleeForum: 080202 Post: 14220    Link
blue team wins
blue teams wins food comp. jason, lisa, eric and marcellas win. Marcellas brings home the win by eating 5 chicken livers. red team - josh, chiara, roddy and dani, stuck w/pb&j + as many jalapeno stuffed olives they want for a week.

Aug 02 2002 13:56, Fri UniqLeeeMeForum: 080202 Post: 14223    Link
Food Competition
The HG's were divided into 2 teams of 4 each. Red Team - Chi, Rod, Dani, and Josh.
Blue Team - Eric, Lisa, Marcy, and Jason.
The competition was to challenge another member of the opposite team to eat an amount of something decided by bidding (ie. I can eat 5 in 2 minutes, and the other person bid a # higher than 5 until one decided to challenge them to do what they bid). First up, Lisa and Chiara, the food... Brussel Sprouts! Lisa ended up challenging Chi to eat 12 Brussel Sprouts, Chi didn't do it in the time alloted (2 min.) Blue team 1 point.
Next up, Josh and Jason, the food Twinkies, Josh challenged Jason, Jason completed the challenge, Blue team 2 points.
Next up, Dani and Eric, the food, jalapeno stuffed olives, Eric challenges Dani, Dani completes the challenge. Red team 1 point, Blue team 2 points.
Next up, Roddy and Marcy, the food, chicken livers (fried). Roddy challenges Marcy, Marcy gags through the entire challenge but manages to pull it off. Blue team wins the competition.

Aug 02 2002 14:02, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14233    Link
HGs walk outside. It is set up as a diner. (very long)
(Apologies for any typos or gaps, was writing fast)
G: This werk's food comp. "I can eat anything better than you."

This food comp will split house to have and have not's
Welcome to G's BB Diner
You're not only allowed to eat all you can but it is in your best interest to do so.
Sheer determinaion and iron guts determine who will win a week of BB cuisine.

(FOTH. G rinses and repeats a portion of intro and rules)
Rules:
Teams wihich won coin flip (red) start by selecting eater.
Blue team then picks eater to go head to head w/red team eater.
Team sends eater to table.
Yuur host will reveal the first food item.
Time limit to eat is 2 minutes.
Blue since they lost coin flip, wil make first bid (ie. I can eat 3 cheese balls in 2 minutes.)
Red can make counter offer
Bidding goes on til one eater tops the other eater
(ie. Red outbids blue team, red challenged to eat)

Eater given item to eat, if completed team get a point
Eater must swallow all the food before time, open mouth to prove nothing is left.
If player blows chunks, opposing team gets point.
If player fails to finish, opposing team gets point

Game continues while remaining players alternate chooising first eater
Bidding start with team that lost.
You can serve as eater only once even if you were outbid.
Game lasts for four rounds with five tiebreaker round if needed. Only then you can choose someone which already ate.
First to three wins game and food, losers get PB&J and unlimited amounts of one item that they won during contest.

You can drink water during eating.
Everyone ready to places bids, and stuff their faces?
It's time to clean you plate or suffer pb&j fate!

BB: You can bring water. Any questions about rules?
FOTH

Round 1
Lisa (blue), Chi(red) face off.
Ger:BRUSSEL SPROUTS!

L: 5
C:6
L:7
C:8
L:9
C:10
L:11
red wants C to stop bidding
C:12
(Lisa thinking)
L:go ahead
FOTH
Ger: Let the games begin. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
Wait for whistle.

BB: Go! (Whistle)

[Chiara eats]
G:One minute left, 6 down, 6 to go, Kitty Carlisle [panelist on "What's My Line?"].
BB: 10 seconds.
[Chi doesn't finish, only eats 7, Blue gets one point. Blue leading 1-0]
G: Both ladies bit off more than they can chew.

Round 2
Blue has first choice of eater Jason, red chooses Josh.

G: Next splendifirous item up for bid are TWINKIES!!
Jo:5
Ja;6
jo;7
ja;8
jo; go for it

jo; There's no way the Messiah can eat 8 twinkies every 15 seconds.
g: 8 twinkies coming. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and for cool hand Jase, 8 twinkies
BB: jason, are you ready? (whistle)
[Jason eats]
[Jason completes, mouth checked, mouth is clear]
[Blue gets one point, now up 2-0]

FOTH.

Round 3
Ger: Red chooses Dani to be countered by Eric (blue). Are you ready? Wanna get water before I reveal? I'm not giving anything away. For your consumption JALAPENO STUFFED OLIVES!
Dani: bring it on! (much cheering by red team)
Ger: Dani in the house! Begin bidding.
d: 10
e:12
d:15
e: Take it!
[Lots of encouraging by red]
FOTH
(BB asks re-take of Eric's dare to Dani twice)

Ger: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (the count is blocked by FOTH, BB also does re-take of count)

BB: (whistle)
[dani eats, rather quickly]
[dani opens mouth]
Ger: it is clear!
[red scores, blue stil leads 2-1]

Round 4
Ger: if tie-breaker each pick another eater. Last item up for bids between, from Morristown NJ, from chicago, IL, you guys will be bidding on eating CHICKEN LIVERS!

[guys looking at it digusted. It does looks rather digusting, BTW.]

ger: wearing the blue trunks, marc reynolds. Marc as losers of last competition, you get to begin bidding How many can you eat?
m:3
r:4
m:5
[marc gets hug from lisa]
r:marc, i chellange you what these chickens have been filiteinrg out their entire life, etc (various bodily functions banter).

Ger, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

[marc about to gag, can't take eating something dirty as livers]

BB: are you ready? (whistle)
(Blue encouraging Marc to eat fast, he's walking around trying to digest the livers)
Ger:30 seconds one to go.
R: can't get them down
G: 4, 3, 2, 1, time! he got it! unbelievable!
[blue wins food competition 3-1]
BB: ger, you may announec the blue team as winnning team.
FOTH
G: ...efforts by Marcellas Reynolds, blue team, gets the remianing point and win this week's food competition.
(Blue team of Eric, Marcellas, Lisa, Jason congratulates each other)
The tie-breakers can I reveal that Chris? FOTH
G:Red team may have all the jalapeno stuffed olives they can eat with their PB&J.

Dani: I hate peanut butter and jelly! Arrrgh!

FOTH
posting

Aug 02 2002 14:18, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14258    Link
Marc explaining how he managed to eat the livers against all odds to Rod. nt

Aug 02 2002 14:31, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14279    Link
Everyone, except Gerry, Marc and Dani who are lounging outside, are sleeping or in bed. NT

Aug 02 2002 14:31, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 14280    Link
Roddy & Chi: Chi "What do you think will happen"
Roddy: "You have a very good chance of not going up." They discuss who would go up if a nominee is vetoed. In all cases, they assume that one of the 4 would be a replacement, so, they wouldn't gain anything. Chi assumes that Roddy would avenge her if she is put up. Roddy quietly working the idea that none of them should use the veto if they get it.

Aug 02 2002 14:52, Fri KimMForum: 080202 Post: 14320    Link
F1: L/E in bed talking about their date after they leave the house. (more)
Eric asks if they'll go to her apartment first. Lisa says they'll have to deal with their families - that they can take them along.

Now planning on going to San Fran. Lisa says he'll have to drive there, she doesn't - the streets are crazy. PLannig to go to Catalina.

Lisa talking abouit how close she lives. Discussing where they did interviews.

Eric suddenly covers them with a pillow and they are kissing underneath it.

Pillow off. Smiling and giggling.

Lisa asks Eric what he thinks he family thinks about them sleeping in a bed together. E doesn't think they'll be that bothered. If it were his parent's house, it would be different, but his parents know he dates, has lived with people.

Lisa says her MOm would be okay with it, her dad wouldn't - he's a "Meet the Parents" dad.

Jason comes into bedroom. Lisa telling him what they were talking about...talking about her dad.

Feed switches to G/D outside.

Aug 02 2002 14:53, Fri KimMForum: 080202 Post: 14322    Link
Gerry said something to Dani about making a pact, but being discreet. NT

Aug 02 2002 14:56, Fri KimMForum: 080202 Post: 14329    Link
Gerry asks Dani if the 50 K prize will be enough. (Dani has been sharing her financial woes with G/M this afternoon). NT

Aug 02 2002 14:57, Fri KimMForum: 080202 Post: 14333    Link
G tells D that he would be "perfectly content" to come in 2nd to her. NT

Aug 02 2002 15:01, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 14340    Link
G & D in yard talking about general stuff.
Gerry says that the "eaters" have made a pact to keep their food consumption out of sight. Dani starts listing all the "eaters" and saying that none of them can cook. "You'll (Gerry) be doing all the cooking"

They are talking confidently about the future. Gerry asks if Dani would be happy with the $50K second prize (does he expect to take the $500K?). "You could put a down payment on a house." "I've got the down payment" "So that would be an even better down payment." They are now conceding first place to each other. Gerry says that the only 2 he has made a commitment to for all the way to the end is her and Marc. He has made temporary agreements, but those are the only long term ones. Now on football favourites. Dani is a big and knowledgeable football fan.

Aug 02 2002 15:04, Fri KimMForum: 080202 Post: 14344    Link
Gerry and Dani....
Gerry tells D that he has only made commitments to two people. her and Marc. Others are just temp. argreements.

Gerry says something about coming to D's house, this moves to sports talk - football teams, injured players.

(Ed. The sport talk is boring, so I'll recount what Dani said earlier. She was telling G/M how much she needs money. House payments, taxes, kids, etc.... She wes saying how old her clothes were, how she couldn't afford the nice stuff others had. She was playing the sympathy card *hard.*)

Timed out.

Back and now the feed is on Eric and Jason talking about their cars.

Aug 02 2002 15:12, Fri KWren11Forum: 080202 Post: 14354    Link
Jason telling Eric and Lisa about BB1 and BB2 information...
He tells them that BB1 had that Asia guy, he couldn't remember name. ed note (Curtis) and the second year they watched movies because of 9/11 the show was essentially off the air for two weeks... so he told them if we start watching a lot of movies in here.. we are off the air... Then he tells them about the helicopter ride from last year.

Aug 02 2002 15:15, Fri KWren11Forum: 080202 Post: 14358    Link
Gerry says Roddy surprised him because he didn't expect to find someone in the house with intelligence equal to his..
and Gerry says he means not that he (Gerry) is all that smart, but Roddy knows as much as Gerry does and he isn't as old as Gerry. Then Gerry tells Dani that she is smart, and Dani says street smart... Gerry says he is trying to recruit male teachers... Dani listens.. then Gerry says it's just that a woman can't teach like a man.... (Posting... before I scream!)

Aug 02 2002 16:00, Fri KazForum: 080202 Post: 14426    Link
M and D blaming Amy for taking the cigar cutter, then M finds in the backyard...... NT

Aug 02 2002 16:04, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 14434    Link
Dani and Marc, in the patio, speculate about Amy taking stuff out of the house.
Dani says "Did Amy take the cigar cutter? Is that why Roddy was using a knife?" Marc says that she was running around like mad taking stuff. He says that "she took the Amy sign off the door. I mean, I didn't actually see it, but it's like something she would do" (don't know what sign he is referring to). Further comments about Amy taking stuff. Dani says "Well, wouldn't you?" Marc says he isn't that vindictive.

Marc finds the cigar cutter in a different place. (no apology to Amy).

Gerry comes out and there is a discussion of inter-racial relationships and Black women complaining about white women taking all the good brothers.

Aug 02 2002 16:07, Fri PhantomForum: 080202 Post: 14441    Link
Gerry says that one of his relatives is related to Charlie Mingus, so his jazz heritage comes naturally. Marc says "Wow"
Gerry looks up at the camera and says, "That's right people on the Internet. (he repeats the name and spells it for us).

FOTFH but too late to protect the relative from us.

Aug 02 2002 16:22, Fri MirageForum: 080202 Post: 14473  ParentRootLink
Henry Robinette *DELETED*
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Aug 02 2002 16:33, Fri wratForum: 080202 Post: 14491  ParentRootLink
Minor correction: Spelling is "Henry Robinett" NT *DELETED*
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Aug 02 2002 16:36, Fri MirageForum: 080202 Post: 14501  ParentRootLink
According to the website, it is 'Robinette'(NT) *DELETED*
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Aug 02 2002 16:46, Fri AnonymousForum: 080202 Post: 14514  ParentRootLink
HENRY ROBINETT *DELETED*
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Aug 02 2002 16:31, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14487    Link
LOL - F1 had a closeup of L & E in bed, but the audio was squeeking and heavy breathing. (G on glider) NT

Aug 02 2002 16:37, Fri OreoKingForum: 080202 Post: 14504    Link
F4 - Gerry is washing his sweaty t-shirt (after jogging) in the kitchen sink! NT

Aug 02 2002 16:55, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14532    Link
Quadview: 1: E/L sleeping 2: Dani(?) underneath covers 3:Chi talking to Roddy on making money 4: Same as 3, but from higher angle with both on cam nt

Aug 02 2002 16:59, Fri ktanForum: 080202 Post: 14541  ParentRootLink
Rod is really dissing Chi's view of capitalism and money in general. NT

Aug 02 2002 16:59, Fri MeMeForum: 080202 Post: 14538    Link
Roddy raking Chiawhore over the coals on Feed 3 NT

Aug 02 2002 17:13, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14583    Link
The Roddy-Chiara Fight (I found very interesting) (Very Long)
C: and that’s fine you can do that here

C: unfortunatally unless I make those rounds I can’t get what I want

C: love don’t get you a boat or a trip, spirit don’t get you what you want

C: you have to forgo some things for money, and if you want to debate about what the things in the world are we can talk about that

R: who wants to talk about this, this is what I’m talking about, that you still don’t understand, I and I see the fundamental problem I have with that is that emotional ideas, I told you about that guy that had the friend that died, you can’t tell me that was wrong, I lost that friend, you can’t say that is wrong when its my feelings. If you ever see the tape of what happened this morning, when I was 30 seconds of sharing the most personal moment, and you do that. You can’t take someone who is showing something that private and destroy it. I was in a moment of weakness that I wanted to share.

C: I didn’t do that, you were never weeak

R: did you not see me crying that was personal

R: I don’t’ understand why you went off on going to work in the morning, did you think I was goin to preach a communist manifesto, even if you thought I was wrong what I said

C: just let it go

R: like when I brought the idea of a infinite universe you just said that my ideas sucked and you ceremonially left

C: when did I say they sucked

R: symbolically, you got up and left laughing


R: to insinuate that I don’t respecte people getting up to work in the morning

C: that’s how I took it

R: I’m getting scared to talk in front of you

C: your getting scared to talk to me?

R: the way you have to face things in here, its becoming more difficult, I don’t think you know this morning, it was hard enough for me to say that, and as bad as your reaction were, for you to sit here and say it wasn’t weakness, how many grown men would show that to you and men don’t normally allow themselves to be that sensitive, and so even if you had idea I didn’t agree with, if it means that I….(leaves off) (missed some) If im’ wrong about something , let me be wrong, if I see a side of you that is weak and painfule, they don’t always go together, but to take a superiority stance in a time like that.

C: I was only thinking how odd life could be and you cried about a friend who died at four, and I had a friend who died of leukemia at four, and then the next thing you said I didn’t think was part of it

R: but even when I told you how I thought you missed what I was saying, you are so stubborn you…well lawyers have a thing called strawman, like I say (missed it) that’s a rgument you can knock over to distract you, that going to work ran you had, had nothing to do with my feelings, that people don’ tell family and friends that they have pain they are carrying around because they don’t want to tell the children and then they have to get help cause they thinks htat there parents are not loving them instead of not dealing with pain. For you to say its about not goin to wrok each morning was wrong, I told you it was about a mom’s love not anytinga bout work and you basically said it was the capitalist system way, which had nothing to do with it

C: ok I misunderstood

R: you said that but you brought it back up again

C: I got it now

(pause)

R: what was I saying

C: what

R: what was I saying about the combativie

C: I’ll always listen but I don’t know most of what you say so I don’t argue with it cause I don’t even know anything, if I think I know whats wrong then I’ll not debate with you as I know I’ll lose, so to think that I want to confront you every time you speak is wrong, I wouldn’t do that

R: in this case its exactly what you did, it wasn’t what I talked about, you gave me a sociology lesson instead of listeniong to my heart strings. I still haven’t got it out of you, why do you do it

C: I don’t always do it

R: I didn’t say always do it, but you do do it

C: I just misunderstood, my apologies that I didn’t see your crying as weakness

R: that’s not how I meant it and your doing it again

C: wel lwaht do you want me to say

R: crying and weakness isn’t semantic…

C: did you want me to say that I was brought up fighting so that why I do it, cause that’s not it

R: and you don’t have to feel all weak like you can’t do it

C: I don’t

R: you just got through saying that you can’t debate me, you have more confidence than that, but we are missing the answer why do you feel that way

C: why do I feel like I have to confront you

R: no

C: well I think I have weakness that I think I have to be with you and I’m scared of that

R: I know the feeling I wanted to grab you when I took a nap today

C: I hate that feeling

(missed some)

R: its alright I’m very patient about things

C: your very patient

R: I used to have such a fire in my eye about all things, but now I don’t feel that way anymore, part of what I said today, is that I see life different than most, I notice things today that others only talk about at funerals

(posting as main fight seems over)

Aug 02 2002 17:36, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14623    Link
Time Reckoning // Thowing ducks (Long)
C: it like 2, because of the hammock (its 2:30)

G: I’m dead reckoning its 2

R: well I don’t know, look at the shadow off the canvas


G: well no shadow is noon

R: oh ok so your probably right


G: well you could use moon at night if you knew how

R: well it started over there, now its over there

G: yeah because its path is all over

G: the ancients figured it out just by watching

R: I’ve always had the theory about if you didn’t have all the civiliazation you could see

a lot and wouldn’t hear all that noise and all the lights

G; yeah

R: well when I was in (town name) you could see all the stars




(foth)



G: there was a some good stargazing in pokono

R: yeah I’ve done it there, anytime you get away from



C: are we holding you from your food, I know we are

G: I have plenty of time

R: that’s one thing I have plenty of (gerry sits down with them)

R: yeah and I had a idea last night and I couldn’t tell it as it would be a record of it and
they could take my idea, and I want to tell someone so I could remember because no one
every remembers anyway

C: I’ll remember, but I can’t tell you



G: lets play some duckball

R: I don’t know if we can do day time duckball

G: no at night

R; oh ok

C: I want to play I don’t know how to play, but I can

G: ok, girls duckball
C: I can’t play with you all

G: coed duckball, yeah we already did that so ok

G: that shirts happening on you roddy

R: yeah thank you

C: can we make some toast or something

R: in a little while

R: ok out of 4 how many can I get in hammock

R: I usually get at least one

BB: lisa please put on your microphone

G: I say 2

C: I say 1

R: 1 ½ is the over under

R: ewww

G: garbage counts (first went in)

R: oh bouce off

R: no legs

G: ok make the red one

R: this is money one

R: oh

G: I can’t believe you went over with red one

R: your turn chiara

C: ok (missed)

R: oh that’s in

C: no over
C: and that ones under


C: over again, I did horrible (0/4)

G: I don’t know me and my record with those microphones

G: left, that was a wild duck
R: you have a minute what are you goin with

R: what are you goin with, e or j

G: e (noms maybe?)

G: e ok

R: I’ll smooth it out

G: same play we have been running

R: oh you’re the king of that, if you hit it again

R: oh now its in your head not ot hit the mice

G: its that curve (not sure how many he got)

Aug 02 2002 17:49, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14651    Link
Lunch Time and Frito Pie (Long)
Ja: herbal tea

L: yeah

Ja: the coffee finally

(Jason left, lisa gets some food then leaves SR)


G: oh that’s the olives

Ja: yeah

E: that’s a good bowl for fruits I think

Ja: we were thinking about doing sprints acroos yard and dani suggested lets do diagonal
and see how much further we can fit in, look at that

E: there you go

Ja: look at that

E: there you go

G: it ain’t done it ain’t done

Ja: I’d like to see if this will work

E: kiki we are sorry

E: I’m sorry

C: its ok

E: I’m still sorry

C: I’m used to it now, guys

E: I’m still sorry

Ja; were sorry

(long pause)

Ja: sorry

C: okay

C: you all get all the good food

C: (hugs Jason) how you feeling

Ja: much better

Ja: lets get rid of that, forget using that freezer

C: I’m sorry
Ja: no I’ve been meaning to do that

L: you making a sandwich

E: yeah

L: you want wheat

E: um yeah, wheat
(shes gets him two slices)

E: how you doing ki, did you sleep

C: yeah I slept

E: we doing abs class

L: yeah, if d don’t’ want to do it, I will

C: shes anti ab class

L: shes anti-calorie burning but will probably still do ab class

G: bagels

L:I’m having a sandwich

E: boarshead, are you kidding me, boarshead

Ja: boarshead

L: they are stepping it up

Ja: completely

Ja: pass the di-SHON (cajon shon)

L: my only difference is I put potato chips in it

Ja: I’m going to get mayonnaise

E: did you put it on both sides for me babe


L: like this

E: that’s fine


L: both sides

E: yeah

K: la la la

E: you guys want lettuce for your sandwich

L; I didn’t see any

E: yeah we got it


G: just a reminder, frito pie

Ja; ok

G we need chips and chili, we could use fritos and the taco meat

E: lets do it

(they decide to do it tonight)

Ja; we are all in this weird sleep thing after staying up so late last night

G: I’ll be making frito pie

G: get the pickles

Ja: yeah there we go

Aug 02 2002 18:01, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14668    Link
Patio Conversation
R: tide is turning

R: is it just me or do you all get clichéd in DR

D: Jason is just…I’m going to eat him up

M: Jason is great

D: is that my king

R: yeah I think so

D: yeah cause I had put the black jack down

C: fine I f***ed it up

D: mine mine mine

R: its ok you can call 10 second rule on yourself

M: that’s it

C: oh what a beautiful feeling, oh what a beautiful feeling

D: wow
R: what a lot of action

C: (child like sound)

R: what did you just say

C: (sounded more german this time)

R: I think that means whore

C; he would know he knows French

D: I put that down

M: I’m finding it hard to believe theres not 21 in that hand, that’s a lot of cards

D: I’m sure

M: I just want to have a easy breezy week
C: easy breezy covergirl

R: I had the easy breeziest week ever, you all had food, and amy was good about it

M: she wasn’t that good with it

R: and the unanimous vote helped


C: god that sucks, I can’t use that, wait, I can…

R: to late

M: sorry girl, to late

R: you have to wait till it comes back around

C: (sighs)

M: I just got so frustrated and tired of hearing, it just kept going over and over that note, I
feel bad I wish I had let it go

R: yeah you can’t get thse days back , I’ve said that many times, once the votes over
don’t worry

D: did you go

R yeah I picked I took the 2

C: do I have to pick

R: if oyu pick your turns over that’s the bad part about picking

C: lets get some new stuff out thre on that plate, this is bullsh** with a capital B

D: nono

R: oh I put wrong one

D: marcellas sweety, sweety your completely off

R (missed something0

C: that’s horrible I said last night I thought your hormones are off

R: finally we agree

(missed a bit on the kings of comedy by Danielle)

Aug 02 2002 18:10, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14684    Link
BB: Houseguests, you have two hours until eviction nominations NT

Aug 02 2002 18:19, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14702    Link
More pation chatter // doonsebury // The kid stays in the picture
BB: lisa please come to the DR

R: were you scared

C: kinda

C: why did I not get to go

R: cause hes out

C: the whole time he was moving it around

R: yeah, you all have to add up score, (explains more) are you ready for the first twist

C: whats the first twist

R: if you want to play one eyed jacks are wild cards

M: we tried that before but I couldn’t follow it

R: fine

R: whose in

D: do you think tea is ok?

R: not yet, originally they said no to milk but milk I sallowed now

R: who all is playing

C: I think jay is in

R: anyone want some water

M: I would love some

M: I want to see the kid stays in the picture (could be reference to the movied released last week, only playing in 4 screens nationwide, so not sure if he knows about it)

G did you read doonsebury

C: no

G (something about a coco berry classic) cleary the guy is from my generation and now
hes writing characters that are your guys levels


G: zonker harris, ever read doonebuyr

R: yeah I have but I don’t’ know it well

G: they had a big thing on zonker harris and the coco berry classic sun tan lotion

R: great reference

BB: Marcellas please come to the DR

M: no, I’m having fun, why do you have to take everything

G: coming soon on CD, marcellas’s favorite whines

R:ooh

M: I wanted to play

L: is j dog in

C: yeah I think

L; oh well next hand

(FOTH)

Aug 02 2002 18:48, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14782    Link
Yet more patio talk (Long)
Jo: if I eat anymore, I’ll sleep with a whore, or something like this

D: oh my god

(everyone chattering, hard to follow)

Jo: its black or blue or something

M: has to be one more of those, ooh oh , ah, ah (whispers to chiara)

C: yeah


G: I like Steve martin’s “sh** shioloa

R: yeah that’s grea

C: when hes good he good


D: when you are done you are done

R: yeah 10 second rule

M: hes goin out that’s why hes rushing us

R: I’m not rushing you

M: those beautiful sixes there

(plane flys over)



(missed some)

R: I need a 10 second ruling

D: 10,9,8,7,6,5,4

(finishes play, gerry goes)

(couple talking about milk, idididn’t understand)
R: yeah I tried to get a job at ib because my left eye is seductive, so I’ll be looking this
way with my regular guy eye (looking right), then I switch to seductive eye (looks left) to
say so what are you doing tonight

L; you could see that in your picture

R: (lists a thousand of synonyums of clean and scrub and stuff)

R: oh I feel a scumbag coming, do you know that rule

G: yes I know the scumbag girl
R:I had a girl frined that hated the asthetics , literally hated it

R: good game guys good game

G: ihave to go (he gets up)

M: hes f***ing doing it, hes f***ing doing it

G: I’m conistently getting north, whoa, oh that metal is playing havoc wotj ot

R: honestly I look at the world differently than any other girl or…(cut off by..)

G: roddy I’m consistently getting north, you want to check this out

R: yeah

R: uh huh, look at sunset go down over there, everytime I notice, well not exactly I think the cameras and everything are throwing it off a bit

G: yeah, you want to shoot

R: no

(dribbling noise, ugh)

D: anything sugar sweet, I’m out

Aug 02 2002 18:53, Fri listexForum: 080202 Post: 14798    Link
Gerry grimaces and groans in the bathroom.
Gerry doesn't take his microphone off as he goes to the bathroom, urinates, comes out the door, gets some product from under the bathroom sink, goes back to the stall, groans, sprays air freshener, etc.

Aug 02 2002 18:56, Fri ManSydsMaForum: 080202 Post: 14802    Link
G in the WC, Josh starts talking to him thru the door! N/T

Aug 02 2002 19:09, Fri ManSydsMaForum: 080202 Post: 14819  ParentRootLink
Jo asked "Did you tell Lisa" - like he couldn't wait for G to get out N/T

Aug 02 2002 18:58, Fri listexForum: 080202 Post: 14806    Link
Josh schemes
Josh says to Gerry through the bathroom door: "Did you tell her (meaning did he tell Lisa he was putting her up)? Gerry says, "no". Josh says, "Well, I thought you had by what she was saying when I was sleeping - she was ripping you a new [censored]".

Aug 02 2002 19:01, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 14811    Link
Roddy's Soul Mate (he don't see it but the rest at table say so)
C: she went off on me saying I was white trash and that I was a abortion that lived

D: I would just slap that,

L; when was that

C: 7th grade

R: I knew a girl that literally didn’t care what you thought at all, she was the most
genetically person I ever met

D: why did you leave

R: I idnd’t say I loved her


C: the most genetically perfect person, you didn’t love

D: what do you mean not cares

C: things other saw as important, she saw as selfishness to the extreme, she dresses down
to the point that she accentuates nothing, she has books to the ceiling and talks five
languages

C: your soulmate

R: just cause we had something in common doesn’t mean we are in love

D: no shes to much like you

R: no if you deviated even from anything she cared about she would drop it

C: your soulmate, everyone hear thinks so


L: sounds like she couldn’t take a compliment
R: right, very perceptive to you pick it up

D: oh

R: you couldn’t say anything that made her think in any way that it’s a object and not a
relationship, like breaking the third wall in acting (isn’t it breaking the fourth wall), and
when I say she doesn’t care she also cares about everything, completely everything,

M;sounds almost like a poser

R: she was to the point of reading a philosopher in 3 languages just to get the different
nuances, and shes been to every major art museum and she knows everything about economics and politics, a real renaissance girl

C: so whats she doing now

R: shes getting a masters in theatre

M; shes a actor, never date actors

R: why

M: you can’t tell when they are telling the truthe

L I think you can, you know that person

M: I’ve dated a lot of actors and models, and that’s just my experience

(chiara starts going into a long spill on the art exhibits she has seen)

(as i posted Roddy talked of a MCI commercial where they said if you think you are 1 in a million, then there are 6,000 like you in china)

Aug 02 2002 19:33, Fri blugg73Forum: 080202 Post: 14854    Link
Everyone outside playing cards NT
NT

Aug 02 2002 19:33, Fri blugg73Forum: 080202 Post: 14857    Link
lockdown over nt

Aug 02 2002 19:41, Fri SugarCubeForum: 080202 Post: 14874    Link
FOTH, most likely the nominations foth NT

Aug 02 2002 20:34, Fri DevareuxForum: 080202 Post: 14964    Link
Feeds back on: Roddy just asked Eric & Lisa "have you guys talked to him yet", nos from both.(NT)

Aug 02 2002 20:50, Fri AnonymousForum: 080202 Post: 15009    Link
CHIARA TLAKING ABOUT HER LOVE OF PROZAC....WITH GERRY NT NT

Aug 02 2002 21:01, Fri katemc18078Forum: 080202 Post: 15054    Link
BB announced lockdown. Everyone outside/pull shades. Gerry said "Great now I can't hide" NT

Aug 02 2002 21:02, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15057    Link
Lifestyle Changes // Josh stinks // BB's mind game
G: she doing what phin phin evolves into

C: ok

G: yeah it’s a type that isn’t supposed to be bad for you

C; I heard it was bad


G: yeah me and my wife did it, it worked but obviously I got it back

C: why, does it just come back

G: well I never made a lifestyle change, one thing coming out of this house is the lifestyle
change, I have to continue the cardio


C: well if you loose carbs from your diet is surprising how fast you shed pounds

G: I was on my versioj of atkins and shed a lot eating chicken Caesar salads

C: the Caesar dressing has some fats


G: the weight watchers make a excellent one

C: I heard weight watchers is a really good way to go

G: I don’t know why I got off that, I never lost my appetite for it

(missed something about gerry’s son (he has 2))

G: several million people are hearing this


C: yeah like I just said seraphim

G: and my sleepmask I thought about not using it, but then I couldn’t do that and erics
sleeptalking and that’s a symptom of the same thing

C: oh its full circle now cause first night in tree he told me that he sleeptalks and I told
her my roommate sleeptalked so much and she had to wear a mask only it was college and she hates to wear it so rarely did and when I saw it I was like this is what I was
telling you about eric

G: last night I couldn’t’ sleep with that mask

C: hi joshie

C: did you shower

Jo: yeah
C: thank goodness, he stunk

C: you really stunk



G: its hard to be putting on block to

G:I told them in DR it was like firing someone, that’s hard

G: I had to tell one girl you have to bathe

C: if you have to tell a girl to shower that’s bad

G: one of the retarded kids said shes not takinga shower

G: that’s disgusting

C: totally

C: I have to do my laundry

C: you need any

G: I have laundry service

C: wait to the end of the week

G:oh yeah and I want everything cleaned

C: marcellas has one of your Hawaiian shirts he kept so if he got HOH he could clean it, you should get it back and clean it

C: SR please

C: oh my goodness this is way to much food

C: you are right it is a mind game

G: we won’t eat it all

C: yes you will you have all week

BB: HGs, this is a lockdown, please go outside and shut the shades

Aug 02 2002 21:19, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15098    Link
Close encounters of the scumbag kind
M: oh no oh no oh no oh no

R: scum scum

M: oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no

R: scum scum scum

M: no no no


R: scum scum scum

M: you messed me up

R: I missed you up

R: scum scum scum

M: I can do this

D: you suck

M: I can do this,

D: M your done

M: no I can do this

D: you are done, its over

R: M watch this, starts playing on the table

R: this off the floating queen

D: there was no floating queen

M: yeah there was

D: oh ok I’m done I have a headache anyone want a sandwich

R: its lockdown

D: oh

M: oh phew, I thought for sure I had done a scumbag and after the chicken livers that would have been to much

Aug 02 2002 21:22, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15110    Link
Confirmation 100% on Lisa being nommed NT

Aug 02 2002 21:25, Fri katemc18078Forum: 080202 Post: 15123  ParentRootLink
Yep & Dani keeps trying to assure both gals that Lisa will be here no matter what. Veto or no veto NT

Aug 02 2002 21:23, Fri BigMamaForum: 080202 Post: 15117    Link
E asks M to borrow his clippers so he can "shave his nuts" (more)
M says he doesn't know if there is an outlet in the w/c. E says he will announce when he is going to do it and if "these f*ing people want to watch me shave my nuts" who cares. (Looks into camera when he says that)

Aug 02 2002 21:24, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15122    Link
C/D tell L she will not be the one to go...(more)
D: ab class

R: Ab-class (says it like the AFLAC commercials)

(they go in to get ready)

L: I like this game

C: it’s a good game but I can’t hold the cards so I don’ play


L: it is a good game, I feel like I’m getting my period (that was from leftfield it was all
one sentence)

L I don’t’ feel good leaving

C: I don’t think you are

L: I don’t so either, I don’t know why I feel this but I feel I will be here to see that guy

leave
C: yeah you will be fine

L: what about veto

D: don’t worry you are staying either way

D: don’t worry

Aug 02 2002 21:35, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15147    Link
Ab-class (pronounced like AFLAC)
D: hands behind head, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20

D: hold 1 1000, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8, 9,10 down slowly

D: put your legs off to one side and lets go 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20

D: to the other side please, and lets go cmon 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13, 14,15,16,17,18, 19, 20

D: up up and away and lets go 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20

D: legs stay up in the air and I want you to cross over one time when you do this on the other side 1,2 (demonstrating) lets go 1,2,3, cmon, 4,5,6, 7 yeah, 8,9, cmon, 10,11,12,13, right here, 14, this is what we are working on, oh yeah, 15,16,17,18,19, 20

D: alright, sit on those hands and up 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,16,17,18,19, and guess what hold it, 1,2 cmon, 3,4, cmon, 5,6,7,8 slow down

D: k put your hands on your forehead full body crunches, 1,squeeze, 2 squeeze, 3,4, 5, 6, 7 are you squeezing, 8, 9 yeah, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20

D: behind your head, put your body up, legs in and out 1, and to the side, 2,3,4,5, yeah, 6,7,8,9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20

D: good job, open those pretty legs, amys, put your hands behind bed, lift your body up from ground and rock the board, 1, yeah 2,3,4,5,6 yeah Jason, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16,17,18,19,20

D: put your legs open up like this, we are going to do in and outs, okay, and lets go 1,2,3, cmon, 4,5,6,7,cmon, 8, yeah, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20

D: bicycles I want 25 and push it 1, point those toes, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,22, oh ,22, 23, 24, 25 we are all done, put hands behind heads and up hold

D: 1 1000, 2, 3,4,5,6,7,8, 9,10

D: ten pulses, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

D: hold hold hold squeeze squeeze squeeze

D: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

D: ten pules 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

D: squeeze squeeze squeeze

D: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

D: ten pulses

D: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

D: squeeze squeeze squeeze, cmon squeeze squeeze squeeze



Aug 02 2002 21:46, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15167    Link
Very short, D/J in their typical meeting format, brief and then separate
D: if you walk out of this house before I do I can’t handle it

Ja: you can’t?

D: I can’t

Ja; we will be the last two (knock fists and separate again)

Aug 02 2002 21:47, Fri RMUForum: 080202 Post: 15169    Link
Jason & Dani alone in kitchen - Jason smiles & whispers he & Dani will be last 2 in the house - then he heads outside ... NT

Aug 02 2002 21:52, Fri KWren11Forum: 080202 Post: 15192    Link
Lisa chatting with Dani... (short)
Dani goes to Lisa who is showering... stands at the shower door and asks Lisa if she is experiencing other symptoms as well. Lisa says yes.. and Dani says like female symptoms and mouths the word 'yeast' and Lisa says yes from the medicine.. and boom we get FOTH

Aug 02 2002 21:57, Fri OpusForum: 080202 Post: 15202    Link
Eric is the other nom NT

Aug 02 2002 22:01, Fri KWren11Forum: 080202 Post: 15207    Link
Chiara to Dani and Marc, "It's not about how many pussies there are in the house..." NT

Aug 02 2002 22:04, Fri AnonymousForum: 080202 Post: 15211    Link
Line of the night M to C&D josh is a bigger fag than I am. He's in love with those2 boys. NT

Aug 02 2002 22:05, Fri KWren11Forum: 080202 Post: 15212    Link
Marc, laying in bed.. says "I have a pimple and an afro, it's so disgusting." NT

Aug 02 2002 22:05, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15214    Link
C/D/M vote count, planning Eric's eviction // Marcellas states that Josh is gay and wants girls out of his way to roddy (long)
M: I’m not worried about it at all, I want you to know where my allegiance is

C: if its 3-3 I know whos goin

M: who says its 3-3

C: no one, but what about veto

D:I won’t use it

M: I’ll leave it as it is

C: will you try for it

D: I don’t’ know

M; I’ll try to make sure certain people don’t have it, like josh he will take out eric cause he will take out eric

(they go on fast enough I didn’t transcript it all, but basically they want to try for veto now and leave it as is, taking eric out of house, but that might bother some people so they wonder if they could get gerry to win Power of veto, they are also worried that lisa would get it and take out eric and then chiara would go up as m says he won’t take roddy.)

M: I tell you what tell your boyfriend to not go after me again

C: he won’t

M: I think if we vote that the girls will be fine then

D: what will josh do

M: I don’t know

C: he has roddy and himself, and probably Jason

D: we will see

C: I can tell you now he has Jason

D: ok, so be it (haha)

(c says she isn’t doing it so just more pussies are in the hosue, she don’t want to use pov and make herself a target, she wants to make house decide)

C: if it was just me and you, then veto you we are both fine, but what if

D: when do we vote, wed, power of veto tommororw, veto meeting wed.

M: no power of veto is tommororw but we use it on Monday

M: open the door and make sure that skinny b**** isn’t out there

C: (goes out to ensure josh aint there)

M: one of those two has to go after this

C: I’m putting gerry up if I get it I don’t trust him

M: I can’t ever put him up but I’ll put josh up lik (snapes his fingers)

C: right

C: I don’t think josh will save eric cause it will put roddy at risk

M: he don’t like you, hes as gay as me, and he see you as hampering his relationship with those two guys, hes never said it to me but if you look hes a bigger fag than me

(trails off as someone walked by)

M; its sh**y when you go after best friends

C: or couples

M: or couples

Aug 02 2002 22:10, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15220    Link
Short update, possible reference to upcoming twist
L: I hate these nominations

M: this is first week that I haven’t been straight out on the block other than HOH so this is just nice

D: the things with keys is getting smaller and smaller and smaller

C: yeah it weird

D: remember they may change it, in the rulebook it states….(her audio cuts off)

(feed changes)

Aug 02 2002 22:20, Fri KWren11Forum: 080202 Post: 15239    Link
Dani went into bedroom and said she couldn't stand the smell of Gerry's frito pie.. and (short)
that Gerry went right from working out to cooking without washing his hands.. She said this to Marc, in bed.. and Chia and Roddy who just came in from the shower.

Aug 02 2002 22:44, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15294    Link
Lisa finaly out of DR // Gerry digs being // Lisa saying she wants good people to win, not manipulators (LONG)
E: it felt good to go in there

L: yeah it was my best one ever

E: you alright,

L: yeah I have it mapped out now

BB: eric, please go to DR

E: ok

L: kiki was your DR entry kinda interesting (C is next to gerry, haha)

C: kinda, it was long (laughs)

G (silently continues to wash kitchen table)

Jo: hey I’m going to throw my mike

(lot of random kitchen conversaton now)

Ja: I’m just going to wash my hands real quick, cheese is not melted yet, that smells amazing gerry

(feed goes outside)

R he just don’t understand, he doesn’t realize ethnic jokes are wrong, I mean he can’t be all bad

D: he has to be he teaches handicap students and 2 masters degrees

R: everytime during the ripping sessions on him, me and eric would walk away because we don’t see making fun of a grown man, I love joshie, but that was crazy stuff he was doing

D: it was find until the speech he gave, it was insulting, and should I tell him, I decided I would tell him later (gerrys first veto speech), he has a undying love for his wife and you can see it with his pictures, and oh his feet, those nasty feets

R: what can he do about feet

D: soak them and scrub them, hes lost weight and he isn’t bad on the eyes, but when you talk to him he will change his view so quick to not get on his bad side and I don’t like that

R: I tell you that even though you are only a 5 (they have been talking ratings of hgs) I would want to feel accepted to, I mean with all these younger people and the girls running around in bikinis, and he couldn’t fit in, so hes trying to get that by giving lots of affirmation and you know its more difficult to be confrontational when you don’t feel you are fittingin.

R: well what do you think if he puts on the block if he uses veto

D: probably Jason

R: if its eric vs. Jason I’m just leaving

R: if its chiara vs. lisa, I’m keeping chiara though it would be bad

D: if I get veto I’m not using it

R: neither am I, I told eric, who am I to tell them which one goes, I can’t be the one that does that to them,

R: wow that was a long DR

L: I was in there for like an hour and a half and I’m not done I have to see doctor still

R: I really care about C, I hate that’s its becoming such a fuss

D: what do you mean a fuss

R: the nazis in the back asking about it, its natural that’s how it goes

D: I’m happy I’m married in this house

R: I’m happy its just kinda hard in these close quarters

L (can’t hear her acroos yard very cleary)

R: get you’re a** over here, I’m kidding it was a dumb guy joke

R: sit down here

D: she can’t she has to be careful

L my butt is fine

D: it is

L getting better

R: I’m sorry you are up

L it had to be someone I don’t think this should be last year, I think it shouldn’t go to lying and manipulating, I think it should go to the good people this year, but obviously I can’t spread that message to everyone

R: yeah well those types have to remember that lori and tonya and amy will be voting at the end, I’ve played this from beginning as going in with a fighting chance, so I’m so careful what I do

L: how can you say that kinda stuff josh did to josh

R: like the eva braun and nazi to his face

L: how do you do that

R: have you told him that

L: I can’t, I won’t me and chiara are 2 different people, she can be friends with someone she don’t like. I can’t kiss a** just to keep me in, you are going to do what your goin to do

Aug 02 2002 23:00, Fri StarkForum: 080202 Post: 15326    Link
Consolidated NT posts by ktan, hardys2brush, and anonymous 9:17-9:59pm
Masterchef Gerry on all feeds from 2 angles NT

Roddy changing bottoms, butt visible, with Dani, Mar, and Chi in HRD looking away. NT

E: he (G) wont even get a fu**in' walk to the door NT

Lisa tells Eric she has doctor's appointment tonight

Whoa. Camera 2 zoomed in on stove burner. It is burnt on the edges! (The burner was set to high and the coils
were very red during cooking) NT

Roddy trying to convince Lisa to confront Gerry about her nomination NT

Josh joins the hamock conversation with Dani, Rod, & Lisa NT

Josh on Hardy :"if he walked in this Fu**ing place right now I would drop him" NT

Aug 02 2002 23:12, Fri AnonymousForum: 080202 Post: 15347    Link
Out of order) BB2 reference. Dani calls Justin a 'cokehead'
Josh, Dani, Roddy and Chiara are eating PB and J sandwiches. The conversation turns to Hardy. Dani says she wasn't her type. He was good looking but doesn't like the guys who walk around with their shirts off all the time. SOmeone ask where he was from. They say New Jersey. Josh says he is probably with Merritt. Dani says justin was from New Jersey. Dani says he didn't like Justin. She said she hated that 'cokehead'. Chiara asks was he a cokehead? Dani says she didn't know he just looked like one. Josh says something about slander.

Dani says Justin has been arrested for assualt three time.


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