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Aug 03 2002 00:06, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 15447				Link
Lisa is picking black hairs off E's chest E//C joins convo & leaves//M joins convo-& leaves./D enters joins convo--So good!!!!!
E thinks that G convo about this game being like a game of chess is a bunch of bull. C enters and observes L handy work and they talk about why G nominated them. They complain that G was elusive. She leaves. M enters and L asks M why he thinks G put them up instead of J. M--its more about J manipulating him and wanting to be around the boys Jo and R and he wants the girls out the way. I mean there's a bigger bitch in the house in the house and I don't think he's gay. L Do you think he realizes it? E G is just blind L I feel bad that he's just getting played so bad this way M mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmm (so fast I can't keep up !!!) L he needs to tell me why he put me up over Jo. I haven't said anything to his face bad about him I don't think Jo needs to win. I want good people to win and if he can'ts see he's being played that's sad M leaves. D enters and agrees with L and how G was obscure about his reasons for nominating them. E tells L to talk to ask to talk to him. (I took so long it's probably out of order--Sorry--too good to stop)

Aug 03 2002 00:11, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 15463				Link
Lisa asks G to talk to him before they go to sleep tonite-
G--Oh surrrrrrrrrrrre, surrrrrrrrrre L--I mean I know your decision is pretty much made, but I just wanted to get a few things off my chest. G--Yes that's fine I would like that. . .And just for the record, I felt real shitty about that L--I know I felt shitty when I had to do that too (ref to her own noms when HOH?) L-I don't fight, I don't pull hair, and I left my shotgun at home (laugh)

Aug 03 2002 00:28, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 15497				Link
HG's in HT--some are singing so I think that's why the feeds switch to FOTH. NT

Aug 03 2002 00:45, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 15521				Link
Eirc & M in W/C area. Eric has towel wrapped around him talking about how G doesn't have a chance in the game. (short)
"If thats how he wants to play, he's gone next week" M--Whatever, whatever. (implying he agrees with E's attitude--"Let the chips fall as they may)

Aug 03 2002 01:34, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 15600				Link
lisa and gerry talking on f3,,nt NT

Aug 03 2002 01:46, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 080302 Post: 15617				Link
Lisa meets Gerry in HoH. >>>>
"I don't think I have anything to lose, just to get this stuff off my chest" I know that you didn't put me up for the reason you said, but because of a thing that Josh said. Why would you put me up over someone who has been your enemy from the beginning? Gerry: "Putting you two up is a testament to your strength." Josh is important to be put up later. (Lisa is cutting him off, "you don't have to explain" Gerry continues. Lisa says Josh would have gone if you hadn't gotten HoH. (Lisa is very nervous and is rambling a little). "I knew you were putting me up because Josh told me" - he can't keep his mouth shut. She is telling him some of the things Josh does behind his back. Gerry says he knows, he is "keeping his enemy closer." Gerry suggests that he might save her if there is a veto, particularly if the girls band together. Lisa says she isn't really there to argue for herself or even for Eric, but to set the record straight on what an SOB Josh is. Once again, Lisa says she just wants the bad seed gone. (This is a very gentle and polite conversation: Gerry is cool and fatherly, Lisa is open and honest) Gerry saying that part of his paranoia is from the fact that Josh was up and got saved. That started him thinking something was going on. Gerry repeating that it was a strategic move, not a vindictive one, or one based on trust of Josh. He says once or twice that he will take care of Josh later (a little confident of our power, aren't we?) Lisa goes into the lizard room and Chi comes in. Lisa says, "I don't think it worked" "No?" She repeats the tone of the conversation very briefly, then moves on to other things. (her butt sore, and an engraved present to Eric from a g/f)

Aug 03 2002 01:56, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 15647				Link
List gets it off her chest(LONG)
Lisa starts the convo saying she thinks G nommed her because she told Jo she was going to nom him and Jo told G (which to me is a legit reason to be nommed, but that's just me). G explained that he really did use the chess analogy for a reason and that he was only playing a game. He said it was to L's and E's credit that he was putting them up and that was why. He felt he would do better against Jo next week. L kind of interrupted and said "Well I really don't want to know why"--as if she felt G was serving her the same hooey he tried to serve (I think he was being honest, but that's just me) earlier and went on to explain that she didn't understand, but she did kind of understand because "Unfortunately I haven't been playing the game and I have kind of locked myself away with E and I haven't really even talked to R or Ja that much, but. . ." the man G didn't put up had said so many awful things about him to the point she left the room when it got too much and would knock his bed to wake him when he was asleep and just behaved awfully against didn't get put up. G listened patiently and MMmmhmmm. He went on to explain that he knew who Jo was and what he was about and that there's a saying to keep friends close but enemies closer. L didn't understand. Not that she was campaigning for herself or for E, but she didn't feel she did anything wrong or that E did anything wrong. "So I was just saying "hmmm" (laughing) "And Eric was thinking "hmmmmmmmmmm" so I just wanted to know why you put me up. They discussed it more and then G was like, "Ok, well I'm glad we talked. . . .Do you want some ice cream?" L said no and they talked a bit more. She also said that Jo was going to be put up next week no matter what and he could ask anybody or watch the feeds. G just explained that he understood and felt he was at an advantage to put them up and that Jo could be taken care of later. He was playing a game and that he wanted to earn the dough for his family. (not a direct quote) L-Ok I just wanted to get that off my chest They hug G-I think you're a great person, G-Would u like some ice cream?

Aug 03 2002 01:56, Sat	BlueSeal	Forum: 080302 Post: 15648				Link
Lisa comes in and talk to Gerry....more
Lisa asked him why he put her up while there are some people that treated him terrible and said horrible about him and his family. Gerry said it's all about strategy and it's cold hearted and that he just want to buy himself another week in the house. He also said it's like a chess move. It's easier to vote her and Eric out now than later and that he is not out to get her. He told her he is in the house to win the game for his family. He said he's glad that she came and talked with him and he hoped she feel better. Lisa said she feel better she will sleep better tonight. They both walked out of the room together and Gerry gave Lisa a hug and told her that he knows she is a great person. Lisa walked to her bedroom, C followed her. As soon as she's in the bedroom, Lisa put the medication on her behind and telling C about the conversation with Gerry at the same time.

Aug 03 2002 01:58, Sat	Jester's Tear	Forum: 080302 Post: 15660				Link
Lisa gives a very different account of her conve with Gerry to Eric
Lisa appeared to have a cordial conversation with Gerry. When talking with Eric, she states that: a) Gerry said that Eric and Lisa are the two most powerful players (Gerry refered to them as two strong players like a Knight and a Queen) Lisa says that is crap,'Hello Roddy' (referring to who she feels is the strongest player. b) she exagerates the comment that Gerry makes regarding being open to the women getting together and that he would listen to that. She states he said "if you want to make a deal I am listening to it, you girls can come to me and make a deal." Not sure how much she is playing or incorrectly remebering events.

Aug 03 2002 02:06, Sat	Jester's Tear	Forum: 080302 Post: 15680		Parent	Root	Link
Eric tells Lisa to tell this version (particularly about the women deal) to Marcelis.
Lisa says how can we be sure that Marc is not against us from before. Eric tells her that he is not he came up to me before and a I am sure. Eric says that a) Josh is going to be suspicious about anything that Gerry says and will start making differnet deals. b) she should go and tell Marceles about the above convo c) if every one goes up to Gerry and presures him to get rid of Josh, eventually he will give in to pressure. If enough people say it he will listen, if not he is gone in a week. convo ends. I believe Lisa said she is going to talk to Jay (who was never mentioned in the convo).

Aug 03 2002 02:04, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 15677				Link
Lisa & Eric scheming
Lisa explaing she thinks G is looking for "the deal of the century" because he doesn't trust Josh. They are trying to save both their butts. E saying G would listen to M & R ?

Aug 03 2002 02:09, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 15688				Link
Lisa and Eric sittin in a tree-S C H (EM) I N G
L shares her convo with E. E keeps on suggesting who he thinks she should talk to--You know what you should do, you go to everyone and tell them You know what you should do, you go to Ja and M, You know what you should do you go to Roddy and M. And tell them that. . . L tell them what? E tell them everything you told me L-Yeah but with what purpose like what for? (E tries to give her a purpose but not really sure. It's kinda cute. They get anxious then he's like Go NOW Go NOW, and Lisa is like, but WAIT I wanted to talk to YOU first, then he's like Oh, OK, I'm sorry, I just want you to get in there--(congenially)) Jo is going to be suspicious about anyone talking to R and he's going to talk all this trash.

Aug 03 2002 02:25, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 080302 Post: 15718				Link
Marc says that his fight with Amy wasn't because he thought that she was campaigning against him,
but because she was allowing Josh and Gerry to whip her into a frenzy of concern and drama. It wasn't about whether she got 1 vote or no votes, but how she conducted herself. This is in the context of Lisa, Eric, Chi, Dani and Marc trashing Gerry and Josh about the game and the nominations. (This is the first time I have heard this slant on that conflict, but it sounds believable)

Aug 03 2002 02:26, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 15719				Link
Lisa: "If Josh and Gerry are the final two, i refuse to vote....they can have my stipend" NT

Aug 03 2002 02:37, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 15733				Link
E, L, M, D, & C in HRD (more)
E says if L loses and he's there next week, he'll make sure G loses and he'll make sure that everyone doesn't walk him to the door. G swings in for a min and when he leaves, M says "Does he even know that I know he's playing me?" then he goes on to say how grateful he is to L for setting him straight about the Hot Tub and how everyone else was scheming from day 1. (ARGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!)

Aug 03 2002 02:45, Sat	Jester's Tear	Forum: 080302 Post: 15744				Link
Last hour in brief. 'Gerry Bash, Danielle plays both sides, and a quiet Josh'
Roddy and Gerry have been playing chess with Josh watching. Danielle, Kira, Eric, Lisa and Marcelis in Tiki room. The Tiki room discusion had been pretty much a Gerry bash. Eric especially seems annoyed. When the Gerry talk gets heated Danielle, excuses herself and goes to talk to Gerry. She investigates the woman treaty that Lisa mentioned. Gerry states that he trusts the women that are left more than anyone. He then says he loves Danielle. Danielle states that Gerry stated that Eric is his biggest threat so she will vote for Eric (she is sly). Back in the Tiki room, Marc competes with Eric for Gerry animosity. Marcelis makes his usual reference about 'prison bitch' and how Gerry goes from stong person to strong person. Daniell joins them and eventually. Gerry pops in. They turn cordial to Gerry. Once Gerry leaves, Marc shuts the door and states "Is he (Gerry) oblivious to how much I know he lies". Marc, seems hung up on the Hot tub talk in week one that Gerry was a part of. Jason, Josh (oddly and probably due to confidence) and Roddy have been off feed most of the last couple hours.

Aug 03 2002 02:54, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 15759				Link
Danielle explains her plans for the game
Danielle is now in Tiki room with Marc and Jason. She talks about her meeting with Gerry and how she asked him who his biggest threat is and Gerry said Eric. She says how she said she would consequently go with Eric so "she is going with the grain" thus making Gerry think he is part of it. Marc, sells that next week Josh or Gerry got to go. Danielle says that put them both up and if Josh says we tell him, you were never really being considered. Editorial: Jason and Danielle bringing Marcelis in the loop may be there undoing.

Aug 03 2002 02:59, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 15767		Parent	Root	Link
M actually states that Jo or R has to go next week (not G) NT

Aug 03 2002 02:59, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 15768		Parent	Root	Link
maybe not, marc has no idea that those guys have always been aligned n/t

Aug 03 2002 03:09, Sat	Jester's Tear	Forum: 080302 Post: 15777				Link
The end of the couple alliance: Eric and Lisa confront Roddy
Lisa and Eric are confonting Roddy on Josh. They want Roddy to campaign against Josh. Roddy says he can't "I promised the kid I will protect him for three weeks, I can't go against him" Lisa and Eric's theme is that he shoud have no alegience to Josh because of Josh's character. Roddy keeps saying I cannot go against my word. Eric says that he knows that Josh asked Gerry to put him up against Lisa in order to get Lisa out, so all alliances are over. Roddy says he understands but cannot go against Josh because Josh has not betrayed him. They keep at him (Lisa especially), Roddy keeps repeating that Josh has not screwed him. He states that Josh has not put him and kike up. Lisa says Josh would. Roddy admits that he is in a Jam. Eric replies that Josh's contract is over. They notice that Josh comes out of the diary room, and Eric says he will be here in a minute. Josh actually goes into Gerry's room....

Aug 03 2002 03:22, Sat	jasbel	Forum: 080302 Post: 15794				Link
Gerry... Please go to the DR NT

Aug 03 2002 05:09, Sat	OreoKing	Forum: 080302 Post: 15852				Link
Ja, C, D, M & R hanging out in bed. Ja is massaging Chi's feet - she is teaching him "reflexology" NT

Aug 03 2002 05:15, Sat	OreoKing	Forum: 080302 Post: 15853				Link
D asks M "Do you think Josh is good looking" Marc says " Oh, Please..." (more)
He asks Chiara what that expression she used in school. C says "an abortion that lives" M says "ther you go" D says "oooh, that's harsh." Roddy changes the subject by saying "Marc do you forgive me for putting you up last week?" M: "I'm past that" R: "it's been tearing at me all week." I'm so sorry".

Aug 03 2002 05:19, Sat	OreoKing	Forum: 080302 Post: 15854				Link
Bedroom convo about "gumming the prostate". C says "No, it's gum the stem, and push the prostate" (more)
R: How can you do that from outside? C: it's that spot under there R: I hate when women touch there, it's like getting a hernia in the middle of a nobbing. M: That's not the prostate that's the "taint" (taint your balls, taint your ass) if you want to manipulate the prostate, you gotta put your fingers up somebody's a$$

Aug 03 2002 05:22, Sat	OreoKing	Forum: 080302 Post: 15855				Link
Marc says licking the taint is nice, but who wants anyone pushing on it? NT

Aug 03 2002 05:26, Sat	OreoKing	Forum: 080302 Post: 15856				Link
D: Where is the G spot? C: push your fingers all the way up, and press to the front - not the back. (more)
D: well what does it feel like? C: it's part nice, part uncomfortable. Like when you have to pee. D: why would that be nice? M: sometime it's pleasurable to pee <Giggles> D: I think I'm more "deprived" than everyone else in the house M: Not more than me D: Oh, I think so M: Oh, no. I'm deprived in this house - "water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink" more laughs. R: This may ne the first time I'm actually tired in this house.

Aug 03 2002 05:37, Sat	NotAOL	Forum: 080302 Post: 15858				Link
Eric and Lisa undercover action
While Jason was in the HRD. Camera 1 was focused on Eric and Lisa were pitching a tent with the bed covers. There was definitely fluidy smacking sounds, like there was some manual stimulation. After ten minutes Lisa could be heard saying 'thank you'. It looked like it was Eric's turn when Jason gets back from the HRD. There was some grumbling from Eric and smiles from Lisa as they made small talk with Jason in the other bed. Afterwards, Eric removed his one hand from under the covers. Lisa whispered something about the morning time to Eric. They are both going to sleep. No they are awake. Eric rubs Lisa's back. Lisa says that feels good. Lisa says 'I'm not ready to be away from you.' Eric says not to worry about it. They are holding hands. Lisa seems like she is smirking. Then she turns her back toward Eric. He pulls the covers over her as they try to sleep.

Aug 03 2002 09:41, Sat	Stark	Forum: 080302 Post: 15902				Link
Sleeptalking E: Ok everything is alright, ok ok marcellas Lisa then wakes him up and they go back to sleep (all cams sleepign HG) NT

Aug 03 2002 10:12, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 15911				Link
Eric Sleeptalking.....I'm so ready NT

Aug 03 2002 11:39, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 15939				Link
G in w/c in there a long time. R gets up to use facilities exchange good mornings. more short
G washed hands doing teeth checks his head for stubble. R out of w/c washs hands. R heads back to bed. G decides not to shave his head. G heads to HOH to get dressed

Aug 03 2002 12:12, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 15956				Link
F1/2 Gerry on Glider for about 1/2 hour. F3/4 Eric and Lisa sleeping NT

Aug 03 2002 12:14, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 15958				Link
BB: this is a lock down inside G: okay I'll pull down the shades in a minute I've got 1 minute to go. NT

Aug 03 2002 12:19, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 15963				Link
Before going in for LD G throws his sweaty t-shirt in the dryer. NT

Aug 03 2002 12:41, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 15986				Link
f1/2 G now showered and shaved making some coffee f3/4 E&L still asleep along with everyone else. NT

Aug 03 2002 12:52, Sat	FunnPhillyGirl	Forum: 080302 Post: 16001				Link
most HG still sleeping, Gerry up playing solitare. Danielle brushing teeth & etc... NT

Aug 03 2002 12:54, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 16003				Link
G goes to HRD to get cards D is up wiping up bathroom area. then does her hair ..wee bit more
BB: attention hg's this is a lock down (you can see ppl moving in backyard from the slit in the doorway and the blinds) BB: attention hg's it's time to get up for the day !!

Aug 03 2002 12:54, Sat	Stark	Forum: 080302 Post: 16004				Link
BB: Good morning HGs, it is time to get up for the day NT

Aug 03 2002 12:54, Sat	BB_addict	Forum: 080302 Post: 16005				Link
BB just announced that it was time for the HG to start their day NT

Aug 03 2002 13:28, Sat	BB_addict	Forum: 080302 Post: 16064		Parent	Root	Link
BB has announced at least 3 times for HG to get up, yet still some are in bed NT

Aug 03 2002 13:34, Sat	Kaz	Forum: 080302 Post: 16075		Parent	Root	Link
yes, L and E are still in bed in the tiki room.... NT

Aug 03 2002 13:46, Sat	BB_addict	Forum: 080302 Post: 16091				Link
Mar freaks out over his toothbrush, it sounds like a babycrying in the house, he cleans it with alcohol NT

Aug 03 2002 13:47, Sat	BB_addict	Forum: 080302 Post: 16096				Link
BB: Gerry please go to the DR" NT

Aug 03 2002 13:53, Sat	Stark	Forum: 080302 Post: 16111				Link
Very short, Roddy on internet, marcellas sticks up
R: I Love how we refer to the internet people as the freaks on another planet, the freak shows. M: when in reality they pay for all this R: yeah all the money we make is less than one of the stars on the really major sitcoms and yet we still get the really cheap stuff in here

Aug 03 2002 15:20, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 16306				Link
Kiki won the veto NT

Aug 03 2002 15:20, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16307				Link
C1: Believe that I just verifified Kiki won Veto, They said that after she thinks about it, she won't use it. NT

Aug 03 2002 15:22, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 16317				Link
HG's around the kitchen counter playing cards Jo comes up and slaps Ja on the butt. M says "...My favorite thing. A red handprint on a pale ass" NT

Aug 03 2002 15:38, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 16373				Link
L&C talking in HRD Chiara won the power of veto more...
Talking about how G was suppose to put up Josh and the couples would keep him for 3 weeks. But if G doesn't put up Josh then G's out next week. L&C now going outside and they want to tip over the hammock where Josh is sunning himself.

Aug 03 2002 15:42, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 16385				Link
M D L outside at table. more
L- why did I pick this view (sitting at table facing hammock) D- He's being quiet. (about Josh) L- He's scared sh*tless L-I'm obsessed with the hottub I can't go in it. Still healing. Talking about getting a tatoo over the scar.

Aug 03 2002 15:52, Sat	Quench	Forum: 080302 Post: 16408				Link
Lisa's claim to fame (more)
On an adult hallowe'en costume for Dorothy she is the person on the outside of the packaging. There is a shop on Hollywood Blvd. that sells costumes and she had the pic taken 4 yrs ago but they still use the photo even up to last hallowe'en. She says she was a heavier back then.

Aug 03 2002 16:05, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 16437				Link
Jason Quotables
PAtio--SCene--playin cards J--I could go for some fast food right now. I could go for an In N OUT or any fast food. . . . I go for MACdonalds. . . .I always say MACdonalds instead of MCdonalds and I always say Big MAC but if it's MCdonalds why don't they call it the BIG MC? So that's why I say MACdonalds. L--. . .duhhhhh that's a good point

Aug 03 2002 16:34, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16483				Link
Eic/Kiki scheme about talking to Gerry...
Gerry wants to talk to kiki later. Eric says for her not to go alone. Go with Roddy/Dani: so tell him if you do right thing, you stay a few more weeks if you leave things way they are. Kiki agrees. eric repeats "go with the numbers" Now Eric is telling Kiki he will talk to him, as he was too pissed earlier to do so.

Aug 03 2002 16:56, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16523				Link
Roddy's family and WTC
Bunch of travel talk. Roddy and his dad who was in Munich for Olympics, they were in NY (the dad and the brother) in front of WTC on Sept. 11th. His brother was also at Olympics when the bomb went off. Roddy says that when people say it was a symbolic act, that's BS. There were all the commuters downstairs. And symbolic is speaking not acting, and he had watched on TV when the WTC got hit. He thought his bro/dad were dead. His brother liked to take the ferry. So he was at the terminal when it got hit. Gerry recalls the escalator. Roddy says they didn't know until 7 that night if they were alive, and he goes on with other stories.

Aug 03 2002 17:01, Sat	MisterSlippery	Forum: 080302 Post: 16531				Link
Josh says F%#% Americas choice - I'm through with America NT

Aug 03 2002 17:03, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 16536				Link
Josh taking out bad mood on America's Choice(Sensitive language)
Patio Scene Someone mentioned that America's choice would happen today, Josh sitting next to M said, "Not me. I'm thru with AC. You need to [censored] yourself America."

Aug 03 2002 17:05, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16538				Link
Josh on America's Choice, Gerry and Marc talk
Josh says "go fvck yourselves America, take your America's choice." Gerry says eventaully it will be weird not to see the table. (outside) Josh is in a pissy mood. I hear him bitching about playing ball while Gerry and Marc are sitting talking. Marc wants more to do. Gerry wonders if BB told him to be real up when given setups, Marc said yes, make me HoH every time. Gerry moves closer to Marc at table.

Aug 03 2002 17:22, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16553				Link
*** Kiki on the Veto... talking to Roddy
Kiki says go to Gerry and say if I free Lisa you put up Josh, else you'll be gone. Or, if I do nothing, then Lisa's gone and Josh stays and I dunno what to do because I want to save Lisa/Eric and chances of us making it to end are slim and dick. She's talking to Roddy. Part of her says if they lose lisa, her chances increase because what other girls can go… Roddy says that never comes up. Kiki says couples in house should be broken: tonya/josh amy/marc and roddy says but no, I didn't put Amy up for that but boy/girl couple is true. Hate to say it, but scared if you zap one of them, Rob will go in. He has agreement with Josh. Gerry told me that last night. Josh doesn't realize that Gerry is out next week. Josh is throwing HoH next week. He and Gerry have a deal. Kiki says if she saves Lisa… and she doesn't get HoH and Gerry doesn't go up… and Dani walks in. Not happy over a DR session. It was emotional for her. Jason did what he did to protect himself, Dani says, knew Lisa/Eric nom him. Kiki says again she can't use it because he won't put Josh up. Dani says been there done that. Kiki says if I do it, he'll put Roddy up.

Aug 03 2002 17:23, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 080302 Post: 16556				Link
Chi in HRD with Roddy. She lists her options
"First, do nothing, go to Gerry and say if I free Lisa and you put up Josh you are free for another week, if you don't, you are out next week. If I do nothing, Lisa goes and Josh stays. If I don't save Lisa and Eric, then the chances of the 4 of us going to the end go to dick. We've already lost too many girls" Roddy says the girl/guy thing is not an issue with Gerry. If you save one of them, I go up because Gerry has a deal to save Josh. Dani comes in and is apparently upset about something. Feed timed out.

Aug 03 2002 17:27, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16558				Link
More strategy from Kiki/Dani/Roddy
Roddy says Josh is not going up. Dani says he said he remembers all that was done to him. She doesn't know if he's going to do anything, just make it to the end. Dani says we can say it won't happen… and Roddy says we will have [censored] decisions to make. We think it's a rainy day, but.. (lost it) Kiki says we have people we can count on. Lose those, we're [censored]. Roddy says if Lisa goes, still 2 people in house a lot of people want out. Imagine next week HoH Gerry is out… most would put one of those 2 up. Dani says if they have a deal amongst them, one can't use the POV, and one believes the house likes them more than the other, like Gerry used Lisa and Eric strategically, let the house decide. That way it won't be an even number. Ro says he doesn't want Lisa to go at all. Josh interrupts. Roddy tells him he needs deodorant and Josh stomps out, pissed. Then comes back in, and convo goes to games.

Aug 03 2002 17:28, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16561				Link
F1 - Kiki, Roddy and Danielle strategize in HRD bedroom (long)
F1: (map/hrd bedroom. Chiara and Roddy are sitting on the bed discussing the game..) Ch asks Roddy what she should do. Roddy simply asks her back, "What do you think you should do?" Chiara says she doesn't know but she has several options. She says .. not do anything.. or go to Gerry and say "What if I free Lisa - and you put up Josh - you just saved yourself another week in this House. I can guarantee you that if you don't do this, you'll be gone. Whoever gets HoH definitely puts you up. If you do this and put up Josh, then you just saved yourself another week. (Roddy is "mm-hmm"ing) Ch adds.. if I do nothing, Lisa's gone and Josh stays. (pause) C: And I don't know what to do, b/c I want to save L&E, the chances of all 4 of us making it to the end are slim and dick. And dick just went up to f*** jane, so that's not gonna happen. (she explains "see dick run") C: And then part of me is like.. if we lose Lisa, my chances greatly increase only b/c .. what girls are you guys gonna deplete in the ne- R: Yeah, I know. I know it's going to be an issue for you, but it isn't. It never comes up. C: The girl and guy thing? R: Yeah. C: Yeah, but the girls and guys are the thing. That's how we've been taught. She brings up how Roddy nominated Amy against Marcellas but Roddy says that wasn't how it was planned. Roddy admits he is scared about Chiara "zapping" one of them, and regardless of what Gerry promised him, he (R) could go up to replace the vetoed nominee. Roddy says that he confirmed with Gerry that there is an agreement with Josh.. R says G said he would save Josh's ass for this week and next if they have each other's back. R says Jo is throwing HoH next week and Gerry's out. Roddy sounding worried tells Ch that if She tells anyone that little secret Roddy will be "stabbed in the face". She says she will not. Ch adds that if she saves Lisa and she doesn't get HoH and G doesn't go up... R: What do you mean, because almost everybody would (nominate G) (D enters...) Chiara tries to find out what's wrong with Danielle... Dani doesn't want to talk about it. Kiki asks if it's emotional and D answers it is.. Ch tells D that they were just talking about Power of Veto. Ch gets D to recount a convo with G. D says that G did what he did b/c he knew E&L would nominate him. He (G) had to do it to protect himself. Ch says "I can't use Power of Veto. He's not gonna put Josh up. I'm afraid if I piss G off and use it anyway he'll put Roddy up, or you up, or someone that he knows would stand by me." Danielle tells them she was in the same predicament when M was HoH.. you want someone put up, but you can't just out and out tell them. "When you don't feel it's guaranteed, you just don't risk it, so I understand". R emphasizes it.. saying that he "read the Gerry crystal ball properly on this one. He kinda tipped his hand on some things, and he's keeping Josh". Roddy assures them that Josh will not be the one to replace someone if Kiki employs the veto. D and R talk about how you never know what will happen, it by design has to get ugly and everyone has to take their risks and chance being booted out. Roddy says he hates to sound like a Jerk, but if Lisa goes, 2 people in the house are still there that everyone wants out. Implies that this eviction of Lisa would greatly improve their chances of making the latter stages b/c (assuming) G & Jo are instant targets. Danielle spins on this topic and basically agrees with R. (Knock on Door... it's Josh. He enters) They're all saying Come on in Joshie... randomness, posting

Aug 03 2002 17:32, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16563				Link
Convo Kiki/Dani/Josh
Josh says if Gerry had walked towards her she would have been screwed in the squares. Kiki said yes she tried to win when she saw she could, and Josh accuses Dani of stopping him from winning. He said he had to jump over her. Convo turns to food, then Josh says he doesn't like veto games. Ro agrees that they're dumb. Roddy called to DR Now whispering, having trouble hearing. Something about a story "he' told, and broke down in tears (has to be Roddy) kiki says she was heartless and didn't cry. Dani says it was emotional and endearing. Josh says they'll insinuate he's going on the block. Kiki says she's keeping her thoughts to herself (HAH) and they discuss exercise (Jo says he laid out and stinks.)

Aug 03 2002 17:34, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 080302 Post: 16564				Link
Dani says to Josh,"you should take a swim at night, the water is warm" Josh says, "It's just that the air is colder, the water is the same." (short
Dani says, "Thank you, Roddy."

Aug 03 2002 17:36, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16565				Link
Urinate! Bigger boobs you'd be a ten... and Marc comes in for nap
Dani yells at BB "I can hear you guys back there!" and says they must love it when ladies change. She and Kiki are getting into bikinis to lay out. Josh wonders why he's still fat after all the working out. Dani breaks into song and for once shuts up before a FOTH happens. Dani says you have to make yourself eat. Marc comes in and says it's nap time. They tell the awful joke in header. Posting

Aug 03 2002 17:55, Sat	Jokerette	Forum: 080302 Post: 16578				Link
Kiki on sex and numbers
She asks Josh and Dani how many they've had. They refuse to answer. She says it's vital, because if there were a large number before you and they still suck, all those other women suffered through him too. Someone asks her how many, she says "Ask me no questions I tell you no lies."

Aug 03 2002 18:29, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16600				Link
America's Choice Announcement (more inside)
F1: Everyone in the living room gathering. Joking around in general. Roddy and Josh are sitting in the nominee seats. Chiara mentions that she's worn the same outfit for this two weeks in a row.. Roddy says "America just un-choiced you". They wonder if they'll see the plasma-screen thing twice again this time around. HGs all clap for America's Choice when cheesemusic starts.. BB: The HGs are homesick. Which one would you like to see receive a letter from home? Voting ends Midnight Saturday. Josh yelling and raving for them to show it again. Roddy says you can see the number that everyone's calling on us now. (repeat previous BB) Josh keeps talking about the little guy, he's so cute. I have no idea what he's talking about whatsoever. Roddy jokes, "Josh, your letter can't be dipped in acid either." Someone: That would be good TV. (several laugh) Jason: Why? R: It would be funny if someone got acid in here.. More chatter, FOTH

Aug 03 2002 18:33, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16602				Link
Lisa just told Eric that Kiki can't Veto because she risks Roddy going up NT

Aug 03 2002 18:41, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16608				Link
F1 - Roddy, Jason and Lisa make a formal plea to the Internet (more inside)
F1 moving around: Roddy gathered Jason and Lisa and said that they're going to do an "internet thing". They're planning to tell people that they don't want the America's Choice letter. Jason yells "Hey you guys in Internet Land".. Roddy says "We're breaking the third wall". Lisa joins them. Roddy also mentions that they're explicitly breaking the rules of the game by addressing the feed viewers like this. Funny shot of them where they're standing side-by-side grinning. Jason gives some shout-outs to home but says vote for Danielle and Gerry. Eric also joins them and says that D&G deserve letters too. BB tried to FOTH them but was pretty much too late. Roddy says "Thank you everyone out there at home". They invite Josh to join the plea but apparently he wants to hear from Mewwit too much. Jason explains to folks that BB told him the Internet was on the Kitchen Cam so they gathered together to tell Internet folks not to vote for them (seemingly R, L, Ja and E) and send those votes to Gerry and Danielle since they have families and are more emotional about it. Talk afterwards between Roddy, Gerry and Josh. Roddy says they're going to do it again in an hour. Josh tells them he really feels that Dani deserves it but it kills him to know there's a letter from Merritt sitting right in there on the table. G says he "might" join them in making the pitch to the Internet.. adding that he thinks D may have never been away from her kids for that long. Posting

Aug 03 2002 18:58, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16620				Link
F1 - Eric wonders out loud to Chiara about booting Josh.. (more)
F1: Eric and Chiara were sunbathing outside. Eric kept saying that if everyone brings up the fact that Josh has been against Gerry previously, that he's untrustable, that Gerry may come around. Chiara is agreeing and says she'll try again to talk to him tonight, but Danielle's attempt didn't work. Eric said that maybe they could appeal to Gerry by telling him, virtually his only way to outlast Josh in the game is to put him up now after Veto. If he doesn't, everyone comes after him next week. He added that G "can't get rid of both of us. There will be one left to come after his ass". Eric also said that he wished he wasn't nominated so he could make this pitch to Gerry himself. He did tell Kiki to bring up what Josh has done regarding Gerry in the past, mentioning what Josh had done to G while he slept. E said that if G did this he'd have newfound respect for him but at this point he has no desire to even speak to the man. They continue going over what should be said to Gerry... at some instances it seemed like they were practically rehearsing it together. He eventually starts trying to plant the seed with Chiara that Josh will go against both Ch and Roddy. Eric claims "he's not your ally anymore. He wants to get rid of the f***ing girls". E thinks R may be mad at him. E says R and him had a conversation about Josh breaking his contract and that they both felt, then, that he had been disloyal. timeout, post (ed: more of this in reply below)

Aug 03 2002 19:04, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16624		Parent	Root	Link
More of Chiara and Eric talking outside--
Chiara sardonically says that she could "play the game" for 10 minutes a day with someone but Josh will outdo her by playing 23 of 24 hours. Going over how Josh is manipulating others' feelings non-stop. She says that he (Jo) will scheme 23 hours a day, do things like waking up early to have coffee with Gerry, just to get whatever he wants. E says "That's exactly why he needs to get the F*** out of this house". E brings up what Josh had said about Gerry with disgust. Says Jo called G's wife Eva Braun and that "he'll go." E says if he got HoH he'd knock him (G) out and give a ten-minute speech about why, since Gerry didn't afford them that luxury. E says that, now, Chiara should be more worried about Josh than he should be. Chiara says if she got HoH she may not put Gerry up but would put Josh up. They wonder about Marcellas' agenda and that of different people. Eric thinks that M may put up R as revenge for his nominations. Chiara says everyone has a strategy and Eric adds "it's a brutal, brutal game".

Aug 03 2002 20:43, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 080302 Post: 16694				Link
E & L in kitchen. E is sticking up for R and his refusal to go against Josh.
I don't think he means to do. it" (ie., he is not sticking up for Josh, but for his own honour). [I only caught part of this} A while later, R & E meet in the HoH to clear the air between them. E says that he is just upset with things in general but wants to be clear things up - that he is not mad at R. R repeats that he made the deal with Josh, but now, he is saying that he (R) knows that G will put up Jason and that means that E will go. R says that is why G wanted the girls to come to him as a block to say what they would do.

Aug 03 2002 20:54, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 080302 Post: 16698				Link
L & C in kitchen reviewing her feelings about R and his refusal to go against Josh.
Repeating pretty much what we have heard before. Lisa understands R's position, but can't get past the fact that he is aligning himself with the most hated person in the house against her and E. She says that R came to her and told her that she could come to him for counsel, but that she said that she didn't feel that she could do that anymore R was hurt by that and she tried to apologize later, but that's the way she feels. R says that Josh has not done anything directly to him, but L thinks that is short-sighted and selfish. She thinks Josh has broken his contract with them by the things he has done to others. Lisa says several times that she just can't understand R's position. Chiara is mostly listening and sympathizing. She says nothing to defend Roddy, but doesn't come down on him either.

Aug 03 2002 20:59, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 16706				Link
R & E in HOH room (more)
Roddy and Eric are in serious discussion about the integrity of keeping his word. Roddy keeps emphacizing that in his heart of hearts he can walk away knowing that he walked away from the game with integrity, which is why he can't campaign for Jo. E continually says that he understands. Eric says that he is going to tell Jo to leave L alone because she is going to get voted out (he thinks) R also tries to manipulate E to approach G about the noms so they can make empty promises about his security in staying in the house.

Aug 03 2002 21:00, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 080302 Post: 16707				Link
Marc and Gerry in yard. Gerry is proposing getting the "food people" together
and cooking up all the meat they have at once. Then they can eat it cold whenever they want. He recounts Josh BBQing and Amy spending hours cooking twice fried potatoes while he was on PB&J, and how much torture that was. He goes into the kitchen and makes the proposal to Jason and Lisa. They agree, although Lisa says she doesn't know about meat and how that would work. Talk of making up a bunch of chicken salad as an example. Now Gerry is off to find another "food person" to talk to.

Aug 03 2002 21:00, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16708				Link
F1 - Eric and Roddy conversation in HoH.... (long)
Eric and Roddy talking. Eric says his feelings for her are getting in the way of things. E says it's "extra interesting" because of how it went down.. E says he feels he "blew it" by not winning HoH. R says then Ja is put up.. but he was confused and E clears up he meant HoH and not the veto. E is talking about something regarding L and R (I think). E tells R the two of them need to talk. E says he's not campaigning but L doesn't want to go. E says he's told L that if it's him vs. her (E vs. L) he wins. R talking about a conversation that he had with Lisa earlier. Lisa had told him that she couldn't talk to G but R told her that wasn't the wisest strategy. "You can't take strike three looking. You have to go out swinging". E tells R that she looks at him as all knowing and she was very appreciative that he (R) approached her with a solution. R trying to convince E that he didn't want L out, that he wouldn't give that kind of advice to someone he wanted out. E says that L is "still reaching for something, for some hope". R: If she thinks something is gonna happen, why wouldn't she go fight it out and present it to him? What do I have to do with that? All I can do is give her an option, if she doesn't take it.. E: I think it was because it was your idea, and I think if one scenario went down I couldn't see him.. if he only knew how everyone in this house felt about Josh.. and how everyone felt about him. It's almost a deal he couldn't refuse. R: And don't you see my point exactly where you're leaving off? I asked you guys in the hammock last night if you were willing to say whatever.. you said yes. I can't make that deal with you, b/c if Josh goes up next week I can't do that because I made a deal. If you have the votes you have the votes. More or less, Roddy is telling him he's terrified he may have broken his word with Josh, and if he's the one that gets Gerry to make that deal and it backfires it would be his (R's) word on the line. R tells E that he's worried that one of the eight people he'd have to represent to Gerry would break the deal. E says that he told L if R could help, he would.. he would take opportunities where they arose. R dropping metaphor after metaphor, stopping and starting sentences, changing topics, he's a bit nervous and it's a little difficult to follow. Basically he's hinging it on his "word" with Josh and that him being the spokesperson to Gerry about their idea (Chiara vetoes and Josh goes on the block and out) would only ultimately be used against him (R). R says E "can't do that to him" because R "intends to keep all promises. There are other ways to do it other than make a concrete promise and break it". E says they're exploring ways of not having to do it that way, of G just "doing the right thing". E clears the air a little bit - he says that he knows he needs to hang around with G a little bit. Knows that Gerry feels it too... E relays that he's shot him some dirty looks. R says he supports E's interest and is trying to tell him how to go about things because he wants him to do well. Some of R's advice is apparently to be a little nicer to Josh and Gerry. The event or situation they're talking about they are not describing directly. It's the amazing ambiguous Roddy at his best. R asks E why he can't go to G and tell him the things (about Josh, he asks) that he just told him (R). E says it wouldn't be in his best interest as nominee. R proposes that they could go to G and tell him he'd get away "scot-free" if he did what they (the couples) wanted. R says that they may not *keep* that word, but they could say it... E again says they're exploring options. Gerry comes around.. R takes off and G pulls E aside. Only to ask about the meat. G asks for the storage room. F1 follows them in to raid the freezer for meat. They have a perfectly normal conversation about it and bring the foodstuff back into the kitchen.. post

Aug 03 2002 21:12, Sat	Bola	Forum: 080302 Post: 16723				Link
E and G in HoH
E pointing out to G how bad Jo is, and how many bad things he's done to G. Jo outside the door eavesdropping.

Aug 03 2002 21:19, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 16734		Parent	Root	Link
additional
E--This goes down, Josh stays, it's gonna be one of u guys who goes up and I just wanted to keep u in the loop. . . G--I realize that, but I still believe keep your friends close and your enemies closer. . . E--I just don't want to see you played like a puppet

Aug 03 2002 21:26, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16740				Link
F1 - Eric proposes a meeting with Gerry. He makes his pitch against Josh, but someone's listening in.... (more, long)
F1: (Kitchen area) E just proposed a "quick word" to G.. going into HoH to discuss matters. G says "You got it". Others are mingling around on F1 in the kitchen and Gerry slips into the Head of Household room and they quickly begin the discussion. E tells G that he knows L talked to him... he says he knows G wants L out of the game, what happened in week one, being on the outside of the alliance, etc. G says "I know." E asks if he is put up to ensure L's departure. E says the reason at nomination was so ambiguous. G says "mostly, it was a block". E says "to prevent me from saving her?" Eric says he understands the concept of breaking up the couples' alliance. E brings up a talk he had with G a few weeks ago about the hand-washing thing. Says he did this because he sees things, hears things around the house.. he sees how people feel about others and can use information to manipulate others. Claims he did that out of respect, and Gerry says "Yeah." Eric says that if things are as they are, Lisa goes. Also says that G will break a tie in his favor. Now talking about it being just a game.. E: What is your perception of the game, and your chances, as you see about going far? Honestly? G: My chances? umm.. E: Before you even answer that question, let me elaborate a little bit further.. one can't help but notice your new friendship with a certain person.. know who? (Jo) G: Yeah.. E: I know where you may have went wrong, but you look like gold compared to him.. is that your reason? G: Mm-hmm. E: I understand that. Do you think you two go hand-in-hand and end up at endgame? You see that as your only chance? G: Nope. R and I have talked about that. You know, any of us against him at the end (jo) we win. I don't think it will go that far, and he's counting on it. E: You think that person (Jo) is gambling on making it? G: I think his best bet is to piggyback with someone to the finals. E: I know we made deals at the beginning, and you can't help.. (feed timeout) Eric goes on to say that it may seem like he's campaigning against Josh, but that the friendship with Josh really makes people question trusting Gerry. Odd shot of Josh kneeling, motionless, in the Cot Room. Apparently he's listening in directly on this conversation (!). G says that sometimes he's overthought himself and he needs to protect his assets. G asserts that it's "almost week-to-week. Who knows what's gonna happen?" E says he's not speaking for everyone and that G can test the waters, but the move (G's noms), a strategic move, but since other people are much more desired targets that this strategy could "concern" the rest of the group. G implies that by keeping Josh next week it actually buys Gerry another week, because he's convinced that Jo is next. G acknowledges that it's a risk and he knows it could be him next week as well. Conversation continues as Eric tells Gerry that he's looking for allies, he's on the fringe and it would be a bold move to do something like that (swapping in Josh). But if the more people want that, it would be a newfound respect for him.. without promises... E tells him this could give him more weeks on top of that. G recounts a conversation with Roddy about having had the chance to boot Josh week 2. Says that Amy was the swing vote and screwed that up. E tells G that "to the outside world it appears you're being played like a violin". E says "perception is everything in the game" and adds that G may be defending himself in the DR. E admits that G may very well tell Jo everything that was said that Josh doesn't know (ed: if he wasn't spying..) Eric says that if this goes down.. anyone that gets HoH puts up either Gerry or Josh. E says "open your eyes to what's going on in this house". G says he's "aware of everything he's done". G says the strategy with that is "keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. That's the move I made". Looks like E was a little hurt because G didn't even tell him off to the side why he was nominated. E says it was a "philosophical statement" instead of a reason. E asks G if he's aware that it would be a "unanimous vote" if Josh is put up. Gerry says "Yeah". E says that they're looking at G first if not Josh.

Aug 03 2002 21:27, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16741				Link
The feed switched from G/E to Josh telling Dani that Chiara would stab them in the back.....
He keeps saying that Kiki can't use the veto, that one of them will go up. Dani says she'll talk to Kiki. Josh leaves. Dani laughs for a few seconds and then goes out to get Kiki. She tells Kiki about Josh's E/L conspiracy and is joking about it. Laughing. Lisa comes in. looks sad. They ask what's wrong. She says it was an emotional thing. Hugs. L is explaining why she's upset, she sounds near tears. The gist is just being put up and Josh. Dani now telling Lisa what Josh told her. Lisa says Josh has been treating her badly today. Lisa has apparantly been drying in the DR. Dani tells L that "the girls have your back." Dani saying they have to make a deal with the devil (typically being cryptic...speaking in code.) She tells them to trust her.

Aug 03 2002 21:28, Sat	MeMe	Forum: 080302 Post: 16742				Link
Dani telling Lisa that she has nothing to worry about - she and Chiara "have her back" NT

Aug 03 2002 21:32, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16745				Link
Josh now reporting what he heard through the door to Roddy. NT

Aug 03 2002 21:35, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16749				Link
F1 bouncing - Danielle plays Josh and tells others, Eric and Gerry in circles, Josh reports to Roddy (more)
Josh is going on and on with Danielle in HRD. He says "she" backstabbed in week 2. Josh says that Kiki has to know she can't use that veto.. and that if she does, she has to know that one of "us" is going up. D says "let me talk to Kiki". Josh tells her that he doesn't want everyone else to know what him, her, and Marcy are in on. D says "let me get my thoughts together". Hilariously, after shifting and thinking about it for a few moments, Danielle bends over and lets out laughter. We're back to Gerry and Eric. Chiara is pulled into HRD by Dani. She says that Josh told her there was a conspiracy up with the girls where they convince G to put him (Jo) or her (D) up if Ch vetoes. Back to Gerry and Eric again. He says that "that's the perception about you". G asks Eric why he didn't vote Josh out when he had the chance. E says because of the "partial deal" he had.. and the only reason it happened is because Jason was approached and changed his vote. Eric harps on the perception of Gerry vs. Josh. Another shot change.. we now see Josh and Roddy on the hammock. Catching this mid-late conversation. All I get is Roddy saying they should take the night off from talking about it. Josh says he doesn't care but he knows that Roddy will go up in the vetoed person's place. Josh claims that if Gerry had the opportunity to put up the two guys while placing the blame elsewhere he would "slobber all over it". Silence as Roddy taps the basketball with his fingers.. Josh tells him that he doesn't know how he's going to live with himself having to break deals later on. Roddy says his one thought is that if he (Jo) is pissed at someone to not act crappy about them. Josh says "this" is in the back of his mind and he "knows what he heard". Roddy lowers his voice and says he'll find out from Gerry what is happening. Josh says G told him he'd put pressure on Ch&R to make sure the Veto isn't used. Josh tells him that when Kiki told him straight out she's not using it, that he believes her. Josh thinks a lot of it comes from Lisa and he doesn't deny that for a heartbeat. posting

Aug 03 2002 21:38, Sat	SynapticSpiral	Forum: 080302 Post: 16755		Parent	Root	Link
re: *DELETED*
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Aug 03 2002 21:45, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16764		Parent	Root	Link
Reply about Josh and Danielle *DELETED*
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Aug 03 2002 21:48, Sat	SynapticSpiral	Forum: 080302 Post: 16766		Parent	Root	Link
I'm not pointing out any errors, I'm asking for clarification, since I did not have the feeds on.So Jo thinks there is a deal with D, M and himself? *DELETED*
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Aug 03 2002 21:41, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16760		Parent	Root	Link
more- Josh tells Roddy more about overhearing; End of G/E
Josh said he heard his name two different times and heard the cameras focus and zoom in on him. Tells R he has no idea what that feels like. Therefore.. Josh did overhear the G/E meeting and has told Roddy what he got from it. (Ed to add: There was a dispute about which conversation was overheard but Josh later admitted to Gerry and Danielle in HoH, while talking to them, that he did in fact overhear things Gerry had just said.) Catching the end of the Eric/Gerry talk. E says that he should go poll everyone, he'll find a consensus. E says that no matter what he'll stick up for him (G). Apparently E has been relaying specific stories about what Josh did.. E says he wants G to know, "from a man to a man", he doesn't like people like that. G is wavering.. he says "you gotta help me get more pumped". (?) timeout, post

Aug 03 2002 21:38, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16754				Link
Chiara to Dani: "I'm not going to use it. I'd love to save Lisa, but I'm afraid he'll put you or Roddy up." NT

Aug 03 2002 21:38, Sat	MeMe	Forum: 080302 Post: 16756				Link
Chiara just told Dani she would NOT use the POV - had not planned on using it NT

Aug 03 2002 21:48, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16767				Link
Dani in the HOH with Gerry.........
G tells her about E's appeal to get rid of Josh. Dani is talking him out of it. She keeps asking him who his biggest threat is, and saying that Josh is Josh, you know where you stand with him. Gerry wants assurance that if her lets it stand as it is, that he'll be safe. Dani tells him people are only talking about anting Josh out, not him (ed. Oh, you lie!!)

Aug 03 2002 21:57, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080302 Post: 16777		Parent	Root	Link
More... G asks D where Ja stands. D: "Not sure. Ja's a good kid. House will take care of him in the end." NT

Aug 03 2002 21:50, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16770				Link
Eric is telling Cchiara about his conversation with Gerry....
Eric is very animated. He tells Kiki that G needs feedback from everyone. He's trying to get her to use the veto. Kiki leaves. Lisa is cooking. Eric continues to tlak abotu G - something G said almost made him cry. (?) Eric adn Lisa kiss, hug.

Aug 03 2002 21:58, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16778				Link
Chiara and Roddy talk about the POV
R says not to use POV, that it will cause more problems down the road that she can imagine. R tells her to go with her original instincts. C saying it's so f*cking annoying. (R looks very serious...worried, even) Now talking about if they'd talk to each other if they'd met in a bar. She'd started to say something, stopped... Roddy asks what she was going to say, but Josh showed up. Josh tells Kiki he never doubted her for a minute. (ed HAHA)

Aug 03 2002 22:00, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 16782				Link
D to G: Who's your biggest THREAT? (more)
D is workin G and she is gently working him to confide in her if C used the POV who would he vote for? G says Jo or G. He says if he wants to break up the couples he would have to They kind of pause for a sec and he says "You know if we weren't married I'd propose to you. . .I hope you don't take offense to that?" They laugh He wants to know how C is going to use the POV and where Ja stands. D may be too insightful and I think she realizes she has to be obscure in how many people she's spoken to so she says she doesn't know. . .but. . .she THINKS C is not going to use the POV and . . .she THINKS Ja is ok. post

Aug 03 2002 22:05, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 16789				Link
C just told R that there is probably going to be a tie of votes between E & L. (She had just promised D she would not tell R anything) NT

Aug 03 2002 22:07, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16794				Link
Chiara tells R that she thinks it will be Eric leaving in a tie. roddy disagrees, but looks unhappy......
R aska about the vote numbers. Asks where she got this from. She says it's just a feeling. R: Who are the 3 for Eric? C: breaks down the votes. R says he can't vote against E. C says she wasn't asking him to. R asks if she'd be happy if Eric leaves. C says that on one hand, L would be a vote for her, on the other, w/ L aroung they're still a target. Josh comes back out. R asks what they're cooking inside. c talks about the pb&j thing is actually good strategy wise. Everyone feels sorry for her. R asks C if she's talked to Ja. C says she assumes he's voting to keep Eric. She says she's almost positive that M is voting to keep Lisa.

Aug 03 2002 22:13, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16807				Link
Jason and Marc were whispering about the vote; Eric works Jason.......
I think Ja was saying the couples need to go. Eric comes in. He's laying out his plan for Ja, recounting what he told Gerry.

Aug 03 2002 22:25, Sat	supercn	Forum: 080302 Post: 16825				Link
F1 - Eric telling Jason and Roddy in HRD that he told G about Jo calling his wife Eva Braun - says G didn't even know about that comment (more inside)
F1: (Eric, Jason and Roddy are hanging out in the HRD near the globe in the back. Eric is explaining his conversation with Gerry while they listen..) He relays that he told Gerry to go poll everyone and he'd find that people felt the same negative way about Josh across the board. Eric tells them he's told Gerry about every slanderous comment Josh has made (!). He adds that G's only concern was someone having his back.. that he said "I'm afraid of that kid". R tells them that he can't vote Josh out no matter what. He says "it's a sh** move for the kid and I, but that's it..." E says that G obviously wouldn't do it unless it would work and why would G say he is literally scared of him if it weren't true? Eric is basically trying to tell them that he thinks he's swayed Gerry and there were hints of sincerity in his response. He said Gerry "warmed up" to him a few minutes in. Eric says that he's told Gerry he is a marked man, going up, if things stay as is. He says he told G that G had the chance to do something everyone wants to do but no-one would do because of being afraid of the ramifications. (M enters, leaves, and re-enters) M enters with: "That b***h is sweatin' bullets. Anytime he sees people somewhere he thinks something's going on with him." E: That's because he's a f***ing psycho (Jo). Now, Marcellas brings up how he said that their first week in the house. R says that when Josh unavoidably comes in momentarily to crash their conversation, they're talking about guys sticking together. R also says it could be "disastrous" to think this new plan is going on and it doesn't go through, it puts him in a weird spot. (And sure enough, Josh has surveyed the house and he comes in. ) R tells Josh that they're still talking about that plan from out in the yard(?) where they're going to keep the kid in.. a three-week deal. This is the last week of that. Roddy turns the conversation and says he's worried about a tie - E&Jo feel that Lisa goes in the tiebreak. Josh tells Eric that the votes are had right here, in this room. They're talking about getting Marcellas' vote so I guess he's left. timeout, post

Aug 03 2002 22:29, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16831				Link
Eric, Jason, and Roddy talk (long)
R tells E he can't vote against josh. E is pleading his case against Josh, saying what he told G again. E saying again that he told G that he thinks L will lose. E says he told G that if things go down like this, whoever stays will put him (G) up. Marc walks in, says "That bitch is officially sweating bullets. That's how he is, whenever anyone is in a room talking, he thinks it's about him." Marc leaves. R saying this could be disaterous if it doesn't go through. E tells him he doesn't have to do anything. Josh barges in. Roddy tries to say they were talking about something else. R says he's got a bad feeling if it's a tie. Josh scheming agianst Marc now. Josh giving advice to Eric now. Eric nodding, looking tense. Josh thinks G will vote for L to go in a tie breaker. Kiki comes in, says dinner is ready. Jason leaves. The boys all agree with Kiki and Dani will support Lisa. Discussion about how to deal with G next week, what to do if they get HOH. Everyone agree that Jason has it made, no one wants to put him up, but no one wants to be up against him in the end, either.

Aug 03 2002 22:37, Sat	KimM	Forum: 080302 Post: 16835				Link
All 4 feeds on D/Jo/R sitting outside eating peanut butter and chatting. NT

Aug 03 2002 23:01, Sat	BB3militia	Forum: 080302 Post: 16874				Link
R feeling D's mind out on the patio. In a round about way, he's talking about strategy to see what her understanding of the game is. NT

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