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Aug 04 2002 00:11, Sun	Genie	Forum: 080402 Post: 16929				Link
Li and Ro in hammock (long)
Ro telling Li that he doesn't want to be put in a situation where it looks like he gave his word for several people. Then if the other people in the group go back on their word, he will be blamed. Li is trying to explain to Ro that she didn't know that was happening. Li is also saying that she has not given her word to anyone in the house. Ro is surprised and asks about the first day at the HT. Lis backs up and says that she did give her word the first day at the HT. Ro and Li go on to have a talk about doing things in the house that you wouldn't do in the outside world. Li says that she doesn't agree with Tonya's lifestyle and how she is, but inside the house it was different. Li would not be friends with Tonya in her outside life. She thinks that it was okay that To got voted out since Li did not like the way To acted. Now, Josh should go since he is not acting in a way that is good. People that are not good should be voted out. Ro discusses their agreeement with Ja. Ja is supposed to be safe for the next 3 wks. Ro thought that Li had agreed to the arrangement with Ja. Li says that she was aware of the agreement and will go with it, but was not asked about it initially when the deal was made. Now going over who will be put up against whom.

Aug 04 2002 00:18, Sun	supercn	Forum: 080402 Post: 16938				Link
F1 - Chiara and Danielle in HRD - talk about their Vetoes, Tonya and breaking down.. (long)
F1: (Danielle and Chiara are in the HRD. Chiara's sprawled out on the bed and Danielle is standing up.) D says she was telling R about how she takes nothing for granted - how she sighs relief when she gets her key. Ch says she was walking around yesterday like a chicken with her head cut off.. people asking her about using the veto over and over. Saying she can't be in this position right now, Chiara explains why she should not use the Veto this time around. Danielle says the DR asked her, "is it gonna get ugly?" and she said "It's gonna get ugly". Now they joke around here and there... I'm waiting for Danielle to weave in "cuckoo for cocoa puffs" somewhere. They joke that they don't get any time off, no weekends to go do anything. C: Most stressful Saturday of my life! (D laughs) Danielle says the day she won POV she was running her tail off.. everyone asking her what she's gonna do and making offers. Ch asks her who she wanted to save.. D answers she wanted to save Tonya and have Gerry go up (truthfully). D: "Things change under different circumstances". Chiara lays back and laughs at how that happened.. and something someone (Tonya?) had said before about a black father.. Ch: "That was bad". D: "To me that was a form of polite prejudism" (LOL) D recounts what Tonya's strikes two and three were.. the second I didn't catch, the third was "You don't F*** with me". D says that was the hardest decision she's had to make.. Ch corrects her with "thus far" and D agrees, saying "there's more coming". Talking about crying when people leave, D says it looks like she smokes pot when she cries.. her eyes get really red and closed. She lets Chiara in on how it was embedded in her not to cry and to hate crying.. Chiara tells a story about how she hated crying. Now talking about Ash (FOTH incoming?) and says she always cried at the beginning of their relationship - Ash told her she couldn't do it or he wouldn't know whether it was genuine or not.. Chiara says that she never cried again. Danielle tells some story about how she once walked to a hillside, looked at the sunset.. and just kept saying "I'm tired, I'm tired" and broke down. Brings up the baby, too, Chiara wows over D having the second baby when she was 20. D was worried she was having a breakdown.. "I was physically and mentally tired. Tired. And envious of people my age who didn't have to go through what I was going through. That's why I needed this show". D seemingly filters this to winning the thing.. was hard to follow. ------------ F1 video stays with Chiara and Danielle.. audio just changed to outside (I think) with Gerry, Marcellas and Roddy. R mentions he had a test-kiss with someone for about two seconds.. that you've got to try it and see. Finally we get the shot outside and it's now only Gerry and Marcellas carding at the table. G and M both state that they truly hope D gets the letter from home.. G recalls a look he saw in Danielle's eyes that convinced him that she needed it more than anyone. G tells M he got a message from his daughters in his comfort basket as Head of Household. post

Aug 04 2002 00:20, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 16942				Link
G: "Everywhere I go now, someone will recognize me." M: "I don't know. Is it really that big a show?" The feed quickly changes. NT

Aug 04 2002 00:21, Sun	supercn	Forum: 080402 Post: 16944				Link
Marcellas and Gerry on recognition from the BB3 show (more)
F1: G: No matter where I go, someone is going to recognize me from this. M: But.. is it really that big of a show? (shot change)

Aug 04 2002 00:23, Sun	Genie	Forum: 080402 Post: 16949				Link
Jo and Ja in LR (long)
Jo asking Ja what he is going to do. Ja says that he needs to talk to Ro to see what to do. Jo says that Li has to go since she betrayed him. Anyway, it's better to get the girls out. Ja says that he likes the girls. Jo is still playing the girl vs guy thing. Ja and Jo saying that they can't even propel someone to HOH since it's a lot of pressure. Ja says that he was on the sidelines and couldn't even do the math for the combined heights. E hears and asks what they are talking about. Ja repeating that he would have had a hard time with the math. Jo saying that it would be good for G to go, but he can't be the one to make it happen. Ja telling Jo that he thinks Jo is safe since people have other "targets". Jo says that he doesn't know who he has pissed off lately. Jo saying that he had Ja's back from the beginning. Jo wanted to make sure that Ja was included in the alliance and made sure Ja knew what was going on. Ja thanks him.

Aug 04 2002 00:24, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 16952				Link
roddy is worrying that his "human" comment will hurt him.......
Roddy is worried that the question "who's least favorite animal is a human? Answer: Roddy" during the HOH competition is going to hurt him if there's a tie and it comes to an internet vote. (ed. he's ridiculous about this) He's talking about it to Lisa and Eric. He keeps saying that it being on live show makes it really bad.

Aug 04 2002 00:44, Sun	supercn	Forum: 080402 Post: 16972				Link
F1 - Kiki, Dani and Marc on Monica, Bunky, the big fight... (more inside)
F1: (Chiara, Danielle and Marcellas hanging out in the HRD.) Feed came in here during Danielle telling a story about eloping and getting married. M asks if her father said yes and D says he did. D explains that she wasn't going to spend a large amount of money on all kinds of extravagant things for her wedding. Lisa comes in and hops into bed next to Kiki. Jason has arrived as well and has brought Lisa's mic and is helping her with it. D wraps up her story.. "you just got the story of my life! Bits and pieces, it's like Pulp Fiction". Now they're joking about Marcellas and Danielle.. he says that Danielle is being mean to him.. joking about Marcellas hitting someone. Marcellas says he didn't slap them the way he wanted to slap Tonya but he takes it back pretty quick.. they now talk about the incident with Tonya and Marcellas. They joke about D's hair.. M says "you know, it's a little like Monica from last year, but whatever". D starts smacking him and says "No you did not!" and Lisa asks if that is actually how she was. M answers that he heard but didn't know.. Marcellas talks about how she was working her headband and hair, giving herself a weave.. Talk about Monica making it towards the end. D and M joke that they wouldn't let themselves get asked if they compare themselves to Monica or Vecepia or Gervase... M: Oh, no! Not Gervase! Baaaaaaa! Gervase had one of these receding crazy hairlines! OOh! You just called me Gervase, people tuning in are like aahhh- I didn't know Gervase was on television! (all laughing) D says that DR kept asking her about being compared to Vecepia.. and M says "At least they weren't comparing you to Bucky..Bunky". He said "What do you mean? I'm not some 50 year old white guy with hair all in the wrong places". D thinks Bunky was attractive... had a nice face. Lisa agrees. They all laugh about Bunky taking off his shirt.. D jokes you could braid it. Ch chimes in that it was nasty. More about Danielle being stereotyped when they fish for soundbytes in the Diary Room: "Not all sisters are like that, I will not be angry black woman" They laugh about something Marcellas said when he yelled at Amy.. (LOL, I recapped this.) Marcellas, in Marcellas overdramatic style, said that Amy had snuck up on him, dragged a knife up to him and stabbed him right in the back.. (FOTH.) Comes back with Marcellas saying he never said anything about the heart.. still mocking him and they're all laughing along. Danielle walks out of the room and fake-slams the door to parody the ending, too... M says "it's so funny, it's not funny". M jokes that D did her nails while it was going on.

Aug 04 2002 00:54, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 16979				Link
F3&4: Roddy and Gerry play chess at the outside table. Josh and Eric watch. Very little talking. NT

Aug 04 2002 01:05, Sun	supercn	Forum: 080402 Post: 16994				Link
More HRD: Opinions about favorite games and challenges so far....
F1: Marc feels the Veto Challenge Game was boring.. but D liked it, she says she liked the "square game" today. M liked Bowling.. they make fun of the mallet game. D: "Someone got fired for that". M and L both liked the egg toss, it was fun. D wonders if they're going to use the pool.. L says that the booklet said that the pool would be involved in some activities so bring your swimsuit. D tells a story about being in shock during the Jello contest and how she was surprised she took her clothes off... Lisa brings up Lori as the one who was crazy during that contest and was up and naked quick.. M says he didn't see Lori. M says "And Gerry getting out that thing. I was like : My eyes! Christ sake! Damn! (all laugh) D jokes that seeing G during that competition was awful on the eyes. He was like "Mr. Puff.. Mr. Marshmallow Man..." post

Aug 04 2002 01:11, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17003				Link
Chatter in the HRD....
something about Jason...missed the beginning. Dani says she hopes the HOH comps change. Lisa agrees, says they're getting boring. Kiki goes to shower. Lisa tells a story about one of the Backstreet Boys giving her a coathanger to help her get in her car whne she locked her keys in it. She laughs, says he didn't wait to see if she could get in, just gave it to her and drove away. Now they're talking about boy bands - who can and can't dance. Talk moves to Janet Jackson and Madonna. Roddy comes in. He's looking for something. He tells them that they've smoked about 60 cigars since they've been there. He leaves. (He was looking his poker chips.) Lisa explains that the cameras in the shower, WC don't come on unless there are 2 people in there. She thinks it was on when she, T, and C were in there. Jason comes in. He's been in the shower. He said it was nice, no one standing around. M says he loves taking a shower when there's no one in the bathroom. L agrees, and going to the bathroom too. Now they wonder when and if Gerry showers. M tells them Roddy was talking about somthing (couldn't hear...) and that Gerry told him his was a "c*cktease" too. Marc makes many shocked gestures, everyone screams. Ja says he's really tired. This leads to a talk about how they're staying up all night. Ja says he feels like he's missing the party when he goes to sleep.

Aug 04 2002 01:15, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17010				Link
R/G/Jo/E playing poker in the LR. No actual conversation, just game talk, typical guy trash talking, etc. NT

Aug 04 2002 01:31, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17026				Link
More HRD chatter...
Dani talks about buying the Ja Rule Cd and being shocked by how dirty it was "Where the radio version?!" M: I'm in love with Eminem. Ja: I think Eminem is a genius. M says he's cute. BB tells M to check his mic. Talk has moved to Dani and her needs, she says her husband needs to be taking a lot of vitamens becuase she's going to need a lot of attention. Talk has moved to cartoons (I think). Care bears is mentioned. Dani starts singing something and FOTH. Now they are talking about what muscians they would sleep with. Kiki says she would sleep with Tommy Lee. Jason can't handle the conversation and leaves. M talks about the Tommy Lee/Pamela Anderson sex video. "That white boy was holdin." Kiki is saying that Pam Anderson is pregnant with Kid Rock's baby. They talk about how ugly he is. Lisa says he has a nice voice, can really sing. M is about to tell a story about the Ghetto Boys and FOTH.

Aug 04 2002 01:52, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17065				Link
Even more HRD chatter (long, not overly exciting)
Jason and Marc talk about The Neverending Story. Jason liked it. Marc wonders what ever happened to Kajagoogoo (sp?) who sang the song. Kiki complains about gaining weight. She thinks she's gained 7-10 lbs. Ja tells her that's not so much. Gerry comes in, says he's heading for bed. Lots of "'night Gerry!" cries from the HGs. Jason calls Lisa "Kiki" again (he's done that several times tonight). Kiki worrying about her weight again. She says she gained on the last pb&j bacause of the brownies. M says he misses the brownies. Jason asking how often they eat peanut butter. Kiki says she'll lose weight when she leaves the house. She says she'll be too poor to eat. She has too many bills. All the money she makes in the house will be go to them. M: More conversation! Let's talk about what Jason wants to talk about. J: I'm happy just listening. Jason starts to talk, but M goes back to the "what celebrities would sleep with conversation." M says Moby. Lisa asks what females he likes. M says Brittany Spears, and a couple others I missed. Talk has moved to boy bands again. 98 degrees video. M calls Ally Landry a pig. M like the host of Dog Eat Dog. Back to the sleep with conversation : M says he like Naomi Cambell, but he thinks she'd scratch. M says they should play dream dates. Kiki says John Cusack. Jason says Natalie Portman. Lisa suggests that Jason and Katie Holmes would look good together. Everyone agrees. Timed out. M says Greg Kinear. Says he'd love to marry him. M hates Helen Hunt, doesn't think she's good actress says she's "long in the tooth." Jason talks about less attractive actors getting a lot of parts. Marc think looks are very important to be a being a superstar, explains. Jason asks M who he likes that he doesn't find attractive. M says Kevin spacey, but then talks to the camera, saying he is cute and to have his people call him. More actor talk...too much for me...going to look for something else.

Aug 04 2002 01:57, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17073				Link
Quick Feedscan
F1&2 on the HRD. Actor and movie talk. F3&4 R/Jo/E playing blackjack in the LR. (Too boring for me. I need a break before I go into a coma.)

Aug 04 2002 02:30, Sun	supercn	Forum: 080402 Post: 17101				Link
F1&2: Group in the HRD F3&4: R, Jo and C in living room NT

Aug 04 2002 02:42, Sun	Kat	Forum: 080402 Post: 17109				Link
D cracking up talking to M about how R & E think that E is staying. They also think that G is lying about having a deal with R. (G isn't lying.) NT

Aug 04 2002 02:53, Sun	User Name	Forum: 080402 Post: 17116				Link
Roddy said that his Dad is on CNN on Fridays and has somthing to do with stocks...NT NT

Aug 04 2002 03:21, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17122				Link
f3-LISA CRYING IN ERICS ARMS IN BED SO TOUCHING :( NT

Aug 04 2002 03:27, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17128				Link
Eric and Lisa in bed...(long)
Lots of whispering. Eric recounting his talk with Gerry. Eric wonders if they need to put their mics on. Lisa gets one, lays it on the pillow between them. (The sound doesn't really improve.) Eric still talking about his talk with Gerry, asking why G nom'd them, telling G that he is an outsider because he trusts Josh, that whoever stays will be coming after him (G), etc.... Eric keeps getting out of breath while whispering. Several minutes have passed....Eric is still talking about what he said to Gerry. Lisa says that she doesn't think Kiki will believe Gerry, will trust him enough to use the POV. Eric tells Lisa that Roddy is very nervous about Kiki using the POV. Eric says everyone will have to go to Gerry to make this happen. Eric tells Lisa that he not lobbying for votes, he won't. They each have their votes and after what he said today, he may even be voted out in a tie. Eric is back to his word for word recount of his conversation with Gerry. (missed a couple minutes) Eric says he didn't go in (to talk to G) just to save Lisa or to put his own a** on the line, "but it's already done." Eric takes off his pants. The rustling of covers is *very loud* - drowned out everything they were saying. Lisa tells him that Josh told her that Gerry did tell him a little bit about the G/E conversation. E: It looks like one of us is going and it sucks. If it happens we try to get rid of Gerry next week. You try ot I try. what's on your mind? L: You. They hug, kiss. A long tight hug. E telling her it will be okay. They'll both still be in town. He says he feels bad because he blew that comp. (HOH). He tells her, "Don't be sad. It's not over, there's still a chance." E thinks G might nom Jo, but L points out that Kiki has to use the POV first. E adn L are very close as the talk, he plays with her hair. E says that if she is vetoed out, he'd lose against R and Ja if they were put in. E asks about her DR. She says it wasn't pretty, it was sad. She says they asked about leaving, how she felt about E. E: No matter what happens we'll be together outside this house. Reguardless what happens. We'll have a little extra cash to spend on each other. Hugging, he plays with her hair. (I think she may have been crying.) She gets up off his chest, he smiles at her, she kisses him. E asks if her butt is better, she says yes. L: I really don't need a response, but I want to share something with you, kinda like relationship wise. Timed out! (Argh!!)

Aug 04 2002 03:34, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17134				Link
lisa begging eric not to forget her...so sad and heartbreaking....shes afraid he will find another girl NT

Aug 04 2002 03:38, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17139				Link
eric telling lisa she is different than ki-ki...she respects herself unlike ki-ki....that turns him on NT

Aug 04 2002 03:39, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17140				Link
More Eric and Lisa in bed.....
E: When I came in here, I was in a situation, I was dating somebody. But after meeting you, it wasn't an issue. I ran through that wall of doubt weeks ago. It means a lot to me when you say you're thinkng about moving back east, because we wouldn't be able to do anything bout this if you didn't. L: I can't wait to be with you. E: Me too. Are you insinuating I'll be with someone else if I get out first. L: mmm-hmmm E: Why would I do that? This is the most innocent, pure way to get to meet someone. I just want you to know that I'm fully prepared to handle my situation when I get home. E: I can't wait to be with you either. And how often does that happen that you know....you know what I mean? And yet there's still no rush. L: But say you're the one to go and you go home.... E: What I've got to be the guy and go out and get laid.... L: No. I just want you to know that I'm the person to go first, I'm not like that. E: I appreciate that, but I'm not like that either. Lisa is feeling pretty insecure, thinks Eric might sleep with his ex, he's trying to make her understand he won't. (ed. This is somewhat uncomfortable to watch for some reason.) E: If I go tomorrow, I have this. I already won. I don't know what life is like outside the house with you. But I can imagine...it's pretty cool. E says he's making plans, letting people back home know. E trying very hard to convince her and it seems he finally has. He says he doesn't want her to worry about it. Lisa mentions Kiki. E says the difference between L and C makes him like L. He doesn't care for C's ways, he wouldn't be able to trust someone like that. He says he knows he can trust L. E saying he was planning onn ending the realtionship he had anyway....and I lost audio. (ed. grrr)

Aug 04 2002 04:07, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17159				Link
Even more Eric and Lisa in bed.....(long)
L says she feels like she doesn't deserve romance. E says, "How wrong can you be?" L tells him that the things he's done in the house have been the most romantic, most heart touching things .... Lisa tlaks bout how sweet he was when she hurt her foot. She says she joked in the DR, "If he's on some kind of script, thank you!" E says he likes giving that attention. Talking about their relationship, how they like giving attention. (ed. this is all really sweet...I almost feel guilty for eavesdropping <eg>) E: Before, I met people, but there was always a flaw. L asks for an example. E tells L about a girl he dated in college who was great, beautiful, but ignored who didn't appreciate him. Then moves on to his ex, but wanted more than he could give, made him frustrated. E: And youre gorgeous. too. And there's a lot to be said who's as gorgeous. as you and doesn't believe it. Guys find that so attractive. L: How is low self esteem attractive? E says that's because of what's happened to her. Lisa says she doesn't want to be a charity case. E says she's not, he isn't there to just punch the right buttons. E: I don't lay around and talk like this with everybody. I don't date that much. Casual dating is just that. I didn't share my passions. The camera moves around, goes to another room, then back to E/L. E: Don't take this wrong. You're like the girl who's brought up on the farm, who wears the half shirts and doesn't know she's gorgeous.. L : <laughs> That's it. E: I've already imagined taking you out around my town. Here I am, I've got this girl who's gorgeous, and who's sweet. And I've never done that with anyone else. Lisa is telling E that she gets shy. She needs time to get comfortable around his friends. She says she's great with family after E mentions her meeting his. E abruptly says he has to pack. L points out how that was a strange change of subject. He says it was stupid, apologizes. Now he asks her to forgive him if he doesn't let the nomination get him down, that he won't sulk. L agrees, says she's going to be the same way. L is talking about how much she love sleeping with Eric, how comfortable his body is. Talk about what they want out of the BB house. E asks if he got weird last night, if he was a total whacko. (He asks about his sleeptalking.) It seems the things he was talking about killing was spiders in his dreams. They're talking about his, laughing. E thinks BB is portraying him as a psycho sleeping talking/walking guy. L thinks they're portraying him as the romantic stud. L is talking about how she thiks everyone is being portrayed. (can't keep up, time to post.)

Aug 04 2002 04:08, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17160				Link
Roddy is telling about his dad having day off the day WTC attack

Aug 04 2002 04:26, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17167				Link
Even, even more Eric and Lisa in bed.....
Talking about the poissiblity of being sequestered about eviction. Would they have a tv? A phone? E keeps saying how much it would suck. He says he's going to find out about it. E gets up, puts on pants, leaves the room. After a few seconds of Lisa alone in bed, the feed switches to E going into the WC, then back to L again. E is back, talking to someone else in the room (Josh, I think). E is saying that everyone else is wide awake in the LR. He says they're "rockin' and rollin'" E makes his own bed, then climbs in with Lisa. E asks about L's butt again. She says it's still sore, but okay. Whispering. It looks like they may actually be going to sleep now. No. More whispering about Lisa moving to NY, other stuff, nothing serious. They're falling asleep - brief whispers, long sliences.

Aug 04 2002 04:35, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17171				Link
Last feedscan of the night
F1&2: Everyone awake in the HRD (Ja/D/R/C/D) They're talking about food comps, pb&j. F3&4: Eric & Lisa asleep/going to sleep.

Aug 04 2002 05:02, Sun	Genie	Forum: 080402 Post: 17181				Link
R, C, D, M, Ja talking in BR (long)
They are talking about how bored they are in the house. They want more activities to do. They try to remember what happened during the first week. Ja says that he stayed in the tree because he didn't want to sleep on the mat on the floor. R talks about an experiment where they put people in a room without a window and the research subjects went nuts because they couldn't tell what time it was or how long they had been in the room. They spend a lot of time talking about the food challenges and what they want to eat. They want more pizza next time. D wants fried chicken, gravy, etc. Ja starts to talk about BB1 or BB2 (not sure). He's saying that he was addicted to watching on the internet. He loved being about to see the HGs during the live show (so I guess it was during BB1). He reassures the others that the internet people can hear what they are saying even if it doesn't make it on the live show based on his experience. D says that it's nice that there is a real fan of BB in the house. Ja says that he did not tell the producers that he was a fan. D asks if you can watch using Quicktime. Ja very knowledgeably explains about Real Player and how well it works for video streaming. Time for everyone to go to sleep finally.

Aug 04 2002 05:07, Sun	BaitAndSwitch	Forum: 080402 Post: 17183				Link
Jason was a fan of Big Brother 1
Just before Jason left the HRD room. Jason talked about since they are all family he can says that he has been 'regular' in the bathroom since the beginning. Dani said it took her a week. Roddy seems to still have problems. Jason was talking with R, CH and D how a few times today he had to stop and think that he is on Big Brother a show that he loved for the last two years. Jason said he watched the live streams for Big Brother 1. He only had dial up. He said during evictions on TV he would watch the Internet feeds and get the reactions from the houseguests. So, if someone dropped the F bomb you would hear it on the Internet. (ed. Obviously he didn't watch Big Brother 2 because now the feeds are shut off during eviction shows.) Dani says 'dial up' you must have been a fan.' Jason says with real player and high speed connection you could get a great picture. Jason goes on to compliment Real Player on how it looks even at narrowband. Dani says she's suprised they let a fan on to the show. Afterward the party conversation ended and Jason left the HRD.

Aug 04 2002 07:03, Sun	RMU	Forum: 080402 Post: 17188				Link
Just after 4am BB time & all HGs asleep... NT

Aug 04 2002 11:00, Sun	deVinePoet	Forum: 080402 Post: 17238				Link
8:00 a.m...snoring in the HOH..cocoons in all the other rooms..butterflies to emerge later. It's Sunday in the BB house NT

Aug 04 2002 11:58, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17274				Link
Jerry up and in the bathroom NT

Aug 04 2002 12:02, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17277				Link
Jerry used the bathroom and washed his hands but did not use soap NT

Aug 04 2002 13:31, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17320		Parent	Root	Link
who really cares about handwashing anymore.....the man doesn't do it good enuff to please everyone......OK ;) nt

Aug 04 2002 13:53, Sun	Stark	Forum: 080402 Post: 17332		Parent	Root	Link
Who cares period, i've seen them all forget, and I bet if i was watching you all 24/7 i'd see quite a few bad habits to NT

Aug 04 2002 14:38, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17407		Parent	Root	Link
Thank you Stark; that needed to be said! NT

Aug 04 2002 15:27, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17479		Parent	Root	Link
You said it, Stark! NT

Aug 04 2002 22:02, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 18285		Parent	Root	Link
It's not the soap that kills bacteria...it's the hand action while rinsing with water...

Aug 04 2002 13:29, Sun	robin	Forum: 080402 Post: 17319				Link
feed updates
feed 1 dani up making coffee feed 2 dani again diffrent angle feed 3 pore cam gerry shaving head/face feed 4 more of gerry shaving

Aug 04 2002 13:58, Sun	bbfan of gerry	Forum: 080402 Post: 17334				Link
g and d talking outside NT
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Aug 04 2002 13:59, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17336				Link
gerry and dannielle outside
Gerry said to Danielle he did a lot of thinking and praying last night. gerry and dannielle finally talking outside over coffee. gerry says he isn't prepared to lose the game at this point. if Chiara uses veto is going to do something which will put him at great risk. and if he leaves, he suggests Jason as a replacement for him. (this guy is completely clueless about the Jason/Danielle liason) "if chiara smart she does nothing and lets it fall" d says she hinted to her that she doesn't know who he'll put up. G--why wwi started? because everyone had treaties with everyone else. and it plunged the world into chaos. d--yes, deal, deal, deal, deal, "i honestly believe when i give my word I'll stick with it. that's why i don't give it freely. I gave it to lori and that's the only person I gave it to". (timed out) G--Tonya's little hoochy fit notwithstanding she could have gone out the next time. D--Tonya was a threat to me. D--I don't have any regrets about voting for Tonya. ...G--being the elder statesman he knew he was the easy target. D--she is surprised. she feels if she walks she has let her family down, that is what will bother her. G--you and me are playing for same reason. But I've got a house so I'd be content to be 2nd to your 1st. D--all I want to do is get to the end. 2nd place is okay. ... G--Mar says is going back to school...i'm so thrilled about that. D--I think his homosexuality is his demon. I think he would like not to be. Did you know he was engaged to a woman? I asked him if he was angry? G--i have gay friends and they are torn up, and they can't help who they are. but others i know are very comfortable with who they are, they embrace it. I love the guy. D--yes, i love marcellus.

Aug 04 2002 14:26, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17375				Link
Danielle Marcellus talk. Chinese laundryman impression. morning constitutional
Danielle doing laundry. comes inside and asks if anyone has light clothes they need washed (i think she's doing the "whites") She follows Marcellus back and he is pulling all the white stuff out of his bag. He gives her some shirts. He says "uh, will you pay careful attention to the collars and underarms" And she laughs and says "okay mistah Man" in a Chinese type voice. Her and marcellus continue to talk strategy outside while Danny continues doing laundry. Marcellus says he had his "morning constitutional". He says its important that he, Danny and Jason are the final three.

Aug 04 2002 14:32, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17387				Link
preparing for lockdown; more danny and marcellus talk; street smarts
danny, marcellus, talking about street smarts, how blacks have it. because you assume someone is jerking you, and you're ready for it. (talking outside while d washes and m plays around with basketball) marcellus preparing for lockdown, it appears (there was a foth a few minutes ago) and he says something aobut bb, and danny says "don't you go messin with bb marcellus, he can make your life miserable and marcellus agrees)

Aug 04 2002 14:47, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17418		Parent	Root	Link
it had appeared Marcellus was preparing for lockdown, but it looks as if windows are not shuttered now. ??

Aug 04 2002 14:52, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17431		Parent	Root	Link
BB told Marc to cover the windows if he was going to play bball...
So Marc throws a tantrum and covered the windows as he mimics Big Brother. Danielle told him not to mess with BB as they could make his life miserabable.

Aug 04 2002 14:50, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17427				Link
bb: Please remove the protective window covers. Marcellus does so. NT

Aug 04 2002 15:36, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17491				Link
marcellus & Roddy outside; lisa and eric eating breakfast; not much else. NT

Aug 04 2002 15:36, Sun	BB3militia	Forum: 080402 Post: 17493				Link
HRD--Dani's shares dream w/Kiki
Dani tells Kiki that she had a dream that she was in a hotel like the Sheraton staying with her kids and a friend comes up to her beat up and D says who beat you up? She goes off to the friend's boyfriend, sees he has a gun and she plays it off like she's admiring his gun. She grabs it, runs away with it and he gets to her kids on the 4 th floor before she does. She goes blazing into the room while he's holding them hostage and saves them. D: I always have those kinds of Commando kinds of dreams like

Aug 04 2002 15:43, Sun	BB3militia	Forum: 080402 Post: 17501				Link
Sex talk poll & Chat--D, C, & L--Would u wait to have sex if you could do it over again?
D and C would wait for marriage if they could L doesn't let any guy "land the deal" inside her--waiting for marriage because its more symbolic

Aug 04 2002 15:45, Sun	Jet	Forum: 080402 Post: 17503				Link
Sex talk with the girls
Chiwhora-I'm saving one thing for my marriage...butt sex! This a little more information than I needed to know!

Aug 04 2002 16:02, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17542				Link
sexual chemistry class 101
Chiara/Danny talking in hrd; chiara saying she's on birth control; danny saying she's told her kids to wait; chiara saying sexuality and a sexual relationship is so huge its like meeting someone and never speaking; someone knocks, ch says come on in, sexual chemistry class 101; dan and ch tell lisa its a sex talk about whether people should wait; lisa says shouldn't wait until marriage (obviously...sorry ed.); danny says what if you wait..Ch interrupst and says "hand jobs" do you wish you would have waited? and Danny says "yes". lisa says she saving coming inside her for her husband. to do without protection shes saving for her husband. (how nice of her! sorry for the ed.) Ch says if you tempt yourself your're screwed. now talking about sex "behind". ch says totally overplayed and that's why once you do it once then the numbers don't matter. she doesn't wait. she personally wants to do it, her numbers are high, because she chooses to do it, for the physical feeling. if you classify a one night stand as someone you never speak to again? some discussion on this, Danny says if two freinds who do it, then remain friends, that's not a one night stand. (timeout) .... Ch had sex once then again with this guy and it was "so good" but sexual chemistry was 100 but the intellectual chemistry was a -4. It was like her trying to be friends with Amy. No connection except for "lets have sex together". Then she's been in love with a guy and no fireworks at all but she's stayed because everything else a 100. The sexual side was poor. Danny asked if she had to choose what would she do? Ch says choose communmication. When shes 90 or 50 is the sex drive going to be that important? but when you're deprived of it then its big. (lost the feed and I had to re-boot so I'm just posting what I had up to that point)

Aug 04 2002 16:02, Sun	BB3militia	Forum: 080402 Post: 17543				Link
R & E talking about hotel sequestering--R tells E he doesn't think the HG's really are going to be sequestered b/c it doesn't make sense (ed. note: I think R is manipulating him, but I might be paranoid).

Aug 04 2002 16:36, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17614				Link
A moving discussion on Marcellus and fatherhood and him raising his younger brother
mar says things are getting worse in the world; says he didn't have ideal childhood so probably wouldn't want to bring a child onto the planet anyway; says women have biological need to do it; talking about his former fiance; says his youngest brother was perfect; everything about him, but he was sick, had asthma and he feels like he raised him cause his mom worked, and mar feels like he was his pet; changed diapers, fed him, bathe and clothed and picked out outfits, he was like his doll; very close; then later once he went to school he felt something was going to happen to him, he cold walk him to school, a little private Catholic school, bye Daniel, so he could control it; then it become customary for kids to be snatched and he remembers having anxiety attacks and crying jags about who going to pick him up? its not far but he remembered being so upset that he left school to be sure that someone picked him up. after that in college where his major was theater, and when he had to cry in class, all he had to do was think about someone taking his brother; he cannot imagine how he'd feel about his own child, it would be 10 times worse; he'd keep him at home all the time; just a momentary slip and something could happen, on bus; he knows he sounds fatalistic and can't live your life in that manner, but he wouldn't be able..no interaction with anyone but him for first 15 years....Laughter from everyone....mar says "is this healthy for a child?...laughter; he would be like a little Howard Hughes, wearing rubber gloves and a Michael Jackson mask; having kids is the most optimistic thing you can do....I'm going to do something beautiful..to give the world a chance, to change; chaiara changes subject to Michael Jackson; ch talking about Jackson's white children, blond hair, blue eyes, ...laugher..his wife was a secretary; Ch then moves back to mar's fatherhood, that she feels he's put up a good argument against it, but feels he would be a good father; (is it possible that Chiara is growing as a person?); ch says he would be surprised at how he'd be; ...posting

Aug 04 2002 16:54, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17646				Link
...continuing discussion in hrd; Chiara tries to wax philosophical;
ch says the world has always been evil, but now theres so much media. Jason laying down on bed near door. Ch in center bed in white robe; lisa sitting on foot of bed. mar sitting on side of far bed. ch talking about cycles of how kids feel about their parents, their mom and if we could all go back and erase mistakes we've made the world be better but we're all human; no, her parents don't deserve parents of the year award, but they're human; BB: Chaira, please move your microphone higher. Ch..They hate me; she moves microphone; mar: my germophobe thing is a direct response to the Aids plague. Ch--and your culture, growing up with idea that there is something out there that can kill you; ch understands germophobia because of Aids, and his particualar age group; mar says yes the youngest people don't worry that they think about cures around the corner; ch says getting on this show is a sign she doesn't haven't anything; ja says when tested they told them they wouldn't disclose it, but the rest pipe in and say they wouldn't be on the show probably...lots of discussion of this. FOTH BB: Gerry, please go to the DR (Gerry not in the hrd, somewhere else) mar says he can't even count how many castings and interviews he's been on in his life and you learn how to cast well, how to manuever around; but he didn't have a clear-cut understanding of what he wanted out of this experience; then after they were sequestered and they came and got him he realized he would be the black gay guy, and what his responsbility to the gay and the black community was; he came in with that baggage and garbage and worried about how people out there think all gays have aids; ch talking about the sterotypes that she thinks Arnold put them in the house for, like Lisa the model, the b*tch, herself the girl next door, and how wrong he was (laughter), Eric the fireman getting a mud mask; ch going on to say its a house of stereotypes where they proved them wrong; ch saying that's what makes Arnold so intelligent, that FOTH... foth and lost feed, posting

Aug 04 2002 17:24, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17723				Link
shower
Someone is in the shower Dani in bathroom Roddy comes through and says d--- girl look at you Lisa? - Danielle tell him to go away Eric - you don't have to tell her that Lisa - What are you looking at? Eric - you, surprise Eric - shewsh

Aug 04 2002 17:35, Sun	OreoKing	Forum: 080402 Post: 17746				Link
Chiara has devised and is explaining a complicated system of rules for towel use. She has designated (more)
certain towels for hot tub and pool use, certain towels for ab class use, and a basket by the door for dish towels and shower towels you want washed. Everyone seems to be just nodding and smiling about it.

Aug 04 2002 18:07, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17786		Parent	Root	Link
lol one of the guys just yells out: Are you on an approved towel for sunbathing?, making fun of Ch's new rules NT

Aug 04 2002 17:57, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17770				Link
bb: Chaira please re-attach your microphone NT

Aug 04 2002 18:05, Sun	tweetybird	Forum: 080402 Post: 17782				Link
dish rack; sunbathing; eliptical; (not much going on, really)
eric outside telling the guys theres a good chance they're getting a dish rack; because they've using too many towels. (ed. he didn't indicate how he knows this and the hgs aren't interested enough to ask evidently); feeds of Josh, others, outside sunbathing; Chiara on eliptical; marcellus shaving his head; the sounds of the exercise machine and Chiara's breathing are the only sounds for a while; I'm outa here for a while. be back later.

Aug 04 2002 18:12, Sun	BB3militia	Forum: 080402 Post: 17794				Link
E & M in bathroom area. E asks if M who M would vote for and M tells him L. He does it very nicely and explains that its because E would be a "HUGE threat. --Good looking EMT firegifighter vs. him." Eric nods understandingly. but says he still hopes theres a chance."

Aug 04 2002 18:45, Sun	KWren11	Forum: 080402 Post: 17878				Link
Gerry to Dani outside (looking glum) The 'kid' probably needs a message from home to be strong... NT

Aug 04 2002 18:47, Sun	BB3militia	Forum: 080402 Post: 17883				Link
Ja won Am Choice. D & G outside trying not to be sad. NT

Aug 04 2002 19:12, Sun	fefi	Forum: 080402 Post: 17910				Link
HG's are in the LR reading the letter Ja received from Amer. Choice. All emotional. NT

Aug 04 2002 19:23, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17938				Link
Jason apologized to Dani because he won the letter from home. She tells him it's okay, that he needed it. NT

Aug 04 2002 19:29, Sun	KimM	Forum: 080402 Post: 17953				Link
All feeds on the backyard. Gerry plays cards, Roddy and Jason toss one of the ducks. Chit-chat. NT

Aug 04 2002 19:36, Sun	ktan	Forum: 080402 Post: 17960				Link
F2: Video on Josh taking over HOH bedroom listening and singing to U2 (Gerry's CD). Audio from backyard. NT

Aug 04 2002 19:36, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 17961				Link
Ja and R trying to talk BB into letting them have a nerf ball NT

Aug 04 2002 20:02, Sun	BB3militia	Forum: 080402 Post: 18029				Link
C's views on feminism with R (more)
C asks R if he minds that she flirts with Ja. R is kinding of jabbing C about how she ran to Ja for 1st aid when she hurt her knee. then the discussion changes to feminism R thinks it's ok not treat women like equals or that they can't take care of themselves. C explains that she enjoys being taken care of and that she believes in Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus and R hates that book and believes it dribble. C went on to explain that she loves being taken care of and thats what being a woman is all about. "You'll never see me pick up a check" and she goes on to talk about how much she enjoys being touched and taken care of.

Aug 04 2002 20:07, Sun	bbfan3	Forum: 080402 Post: 18036				Link
Roddy working kiki hard on saving eric
Roddy "Eric really needs to stay, it would be in mine and your best interest" kiki why? He would just help us better at the end, he would never put you and I up. kiki worried how she would explain to dani and the others?

Aug 04 2002 20:07, Sun	Mirage	Forum: 080402 Post: 18037				Link
R talks to C about voting L out!
Roddy discusses with Chiara that it is in her best interest to vote Lisa out! Chiara says that Lisa would hate her forever. She asks how this would benefit her (good question, C!) Roddy says that Lisa is more likely to vote him out, and he is her best ally in the house. Conversation interrupted by Josh, of course. Chiara does not agree to anything one way or another.

Aug 04 2002 20:08, Sun	BB3militia	Forum: 080402 Post: 18040				Link
C and R talk about E and the POV (short)
C asks R what he thinks about losing E. R says he will be particularly upset. And C says "I can change that for you" and R says that would be great. C asks how keeping E would be an advantage for her and R says that E would never put them up together as a couple. C just keeps her finger in her mouth and listens to R go on about E wouldn't betray them in the end. (ed. note: Argggghhhhh)

Aug 04 2002 20:13, Sun	SizzleRI	Forum: 080402 Post: 18045				Link
Roddy thinks he has Jason all locked up NT

Aug 04 2002 20:37, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 18085				Link
C to R " I m gonna walk outta here being the worlds biggest c*nt" NT

Aug 04 2002 20:45, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 18094				Link
C to R " I m worried about my Karma if I vote Lisa out" NT

Aug 04 2002 21:21, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 18167				Link
J and M playing 'duck shot' in backyard
Josh is winning.

Aug 04 2002 22:37, Sun	RavenLaRue	Forum: 080402 Post: 18349				Link
Jason, LiLi and Marc playing cards. Jason says he hates that the insides of his arms don't get tan. M says, "I know."
Marc says he is as dark as he has ever been since trips to mexico (think that's what he said). Jo is in kitchen prepping din tuna, pasta and salad. E is there, too. ChiW is in backyard. M is now inside getting food. Jo and ChiW and Dani are outside moaning about food and having to eat PBandJ. C , R, Jo, and D at hot tub. C sitting at edge, guys just have legs in, dani in it. Jo says he was happy to fix good food for the others but won't watch them eat bc it would make them uncomfortable. Jo is feeling ill. back inside, Ja is digging the tuna and pasta. E fixed his own meal. ChiW is in getting pb and j sandwich, telling others they may get food poisoning. back outside--g just finished work out. Dani is talking about breast implants, I think. SHe lost feeling in one breast. but she would do it all again in a heartbeat.

Aug 04 2002 23:00, Sun	OreoKing	Forum: 080402 Post: 18391				Link
G washing dishes with Chi, talks about doing a "Ghandi thing" and joining the PBJ team "in solidarity".
Jo & Chi think the others will join in. Then Wednesday night, they are going to make a romantic dinner for E & L, outside inn the yard, with the shades down, and candles, etc. Awwwwwww.

Aug 04 2002 23:03, Sun	sage	Forum: 080402 Post: 18395				Link
G,Ja,Jo,C Planning a romatic dinner for E & L on Wed night NT

Aug 04 2002 23:04, Sun	supercn	Forum: 080402 Post: 18398				Link
F3 - Chiara talks Veto with Gerry, Josh proposes E/L dinner.. (more)
F3: They're washing dishes in the kitchen area.. Kiki had just left HRD w/ Roddy. Chiara tells Gerry she kept true to his chess metaphor by telling the Diary Room she was merely a pawn. She isn't a piece of enough power to make a change. G says he "presented the solution early on, and wasn't listened to. Someone you and I both like left the house because of it -- and I know who the three votes were." Chiara mm-hmms and confirms he's talking about Tonya. Yes from Gerry. Kiki tells him she understands his situation.. and again that she really didn't want to use the veto. G says "but, I would fully support anyone making that move next week". Kiki laughs. G says he's been prepared to go up on the block -- if his time is next week, "so be it". Says "And I hate playing the game.. know what I mean? 'Cause there were some really cool moments that first week." C: Yeah. And that's what it has to be -- a lot of cool moments, a lot of sh***y moments.. Gerry enlightens us to his thinking of the "Gandhi thing", which is his refusal to eat anything but pb&j because that's what the others have. Talking to himself at this point, he compromises and says he'll do a one-day strike for solidarity. Josh is in the kitchen area now, too... G asks them if they were surprised that Jason won America's Choice. Kiki and Josh weren't surprised but felt Danielle wanted it more.. Josh says "There's one thing I want to say real quick. If, come after tomorrow the nominations remain the same.. Wednesday night, we'll let Lisa and Eric have a romantic dinner to themselves. We're all outside while they eat here alone.." Kiki and G quickly, nervously even, agree that they're all for it. G tells J about his pb&j gesture.. they then toss around the idea of others all doing a strike on Wednesday.. Josh tells Jason as he enters that he (Jo) will cook a dinner for E&L that they can eat alone. They change the idea to putting them outside.. Josh proposes them doing their own lockdown. Gerry tells of his idea again - yes, he did say "solidarity" for the billionth time. Jason and Chiara praise Josh for his idea while he relays it to Marcellas. Now the plan has evolved into him cooking them chicken.. Marc says it "sounds great". (ed: now we've got Kiki in a waitress outfit, special wine hookup, Marcellas decorating the table, Jason looking for candles.. maybe they'll book REO Speedwagon.) post

Aug 04 2002 23:23, Sun	Quench	Forum: 080402 Post: 18414				Link
In regards to the dinner Josh tells R about it. R: glad Ja and I though of it a few days ago but thanks for you to reiterate it J. NT

Aug 04 2002 23:25, Sun	Robnoxious	Forum: 080402 Post: 18417				Link
F1 - L & E in hot tub
L - I think we should have a date Wednesday Night. (ed note: They're unaware of the dinner the others are prepping on Wed) E - Yeah, will have plenty of late night hot tub time.

Aug 04 2002 23:37, Sun	Robnoxious	Forum: 080402 Post: 18431				Link
F1 - R D L E Hot tub talk
Speaking about sequestering: They don't understand why they are being sequestered after being booted. Roddy waxes that it's so you have the same image of everyone after you leave until the final vote. Roddy expresses that it doesn't seem fair to Lori since she has only been in for a fortnight and has 7% of the deciding vote. The Internet People will have more insight than Lori and she was a cast member. Lisa says it's because of the editing. They can create their own storyboard through editing and if Lori had access to the show, she may start to belive the editing rather than what really happened. Lisa said she would begin to believe it too. Small talk about how BB2 Will won. Roddy says, "It's because she [Nicole] broke her word." Everyone seems to agree.

Aug 04 2002 23:40, Sun	Quench	Forum: 080402 Post: 18434				Link
Jo wrote with ketchup and mustard the power of veto sign beside C's name on the Storage rm door. NT

Aug 04 2002 23:57, Sun	Anonymous	Forum: 080402 Post: 18445				Link
G: to M...if Chiara uses the veto I will put up Roddy

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