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Aug 07 2002 00:35, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21866    Link
Eric and Lisa's dinner....
Eric and Lisa are waiting for their food and seem almost shy with one another. Lisa is wearing a white shirt that shows her shoulders. She looks very pretty. Eric is also wearing white, the top button unbuttoned. They both look very nice.

Eric says they'll have to get Lisa back east. Talk of driving east, lots of stops along the way, Lisa can stay at his house while he gets work sorted out.

they're watching the people in the kitchen (which I can't see), there's a lot of activity in there, it seems.

The couple seems a bit embarrassed. There are a lot of silences (and lot of planes going over!).

Lisa jokes about getting Eric drunk and taking advantage of him. He says, he will let her take advantage of him anyway.

L: I promise I will not make fool of myself.

E : Yeah <laughs>

L: I will not pull an Amy.

<laughing!>

Aug 07 2002 00:36, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21868    Link
F1&3: Eric and Lisa dinner date transcript - Part 1 (very long)
F3:

Picked up the audio on F3 with Chiara introducing as Waitress and Josh as Maitre'D. F3 shot changed outside and we see the setup - it's a pretty nice white spread, the wine cooling stand and all. Lisa gives an "awww" and Chiara lets them know that she'll let them talk while she fetches the appetizers.

They make an attempt to give Josh a funny french name but abandon it (which was the funny part, actually) and leave them to their dinner.

F3 dumped the dinner shot (!) so I change to 1 to try and get back to it. They did switch it over. Some baby talk introductions "How aww you?" They talk about how cute Chiara's getup was. Now some "future planning". Eric says we need to get you back East, so we'll drive back.. but obviously we've got things to do then. He says he has to go to work - but "it doesn't take much time" - and he proposes Lisa hang out at his apartment while he works.

A little chat about how far it is to New York - Eric says they're going to drive everywhere and get lost, Lisa says "In the Jeep?" Eric replies, "Yeah" and she tells him "You take control". She's really beaming at this point, good for them.

E: They must have known about this.

L: Who cares?

E: I know..

L: I'm excited..

E: Why? A present? Did you pick it out? Aww.. I wanna open it now.

L: Nope.

(obscenely loud plane)

L: I'm excited to bring you to Rochester..

E: I know, it's gonna be fun, it's going to be great. We're going to get out of here and everything's going to be so new, so great. When you start out, you don't really know a person, but now I think I already know what you like, know what I mean? (jokingly) What's your name?

L: Lisa.

E: Oh, Lisa. It's nice to meet you.

L: So are you going to let me take advantage of you? (about drinks)

E: I'll let you take advantage of me anyway, regardless of what's in my body.. but I do think it's going to be an early evening.

L: Yeah. (jokes) I will keep control of myself at all costs.. I will not pull another Amy.

(E laughs.. bring on glass 2)

L: How. Freakin. Cute. Was Josh getting the door for us?

E: That was pretty cool. They're going to do more stuff like that for us, I'm pretty sure.


Lisa jokes that his friends will see him now getting ripped. Eric snaps back "Hi, Internet! How ya doin'!"

E: So what else are you thinking about?

L: I don't know, I like thinking about the little things..

(Kiki arrives and surprises L. Bringing bread appetizer)

C: This is just to start you off, a little thing..

L: Oh my God, I can't deal with this, it's too freakin' cute.

(eating)

L: My God this is so much fun.. how cute is it that everyone's participating?

E: (swallowing) Well.. won't be entirely.. well, won't talk about the game. I can't wait to take you to a beach and just lay on the beach.

L: I can't wait for.. just the little things. Like Hey, let's go to McDonalds or Let's.. go to a movie!

(plane overhead)

L: I can't believe I'm bringing you back to Rochester.

E: I'm doing the same thing, you know..

(E pours her another)

E: I'm not very politically-correct in restaurant situations.

L: I thought you were a waiter?

E: I was, but..

L: I'm so glad that I met you. I think it's great and, um, I was talking to someone a couple days ago.. just saying that, like, you always hear that good things come when you're not looking for them.

E: It's true..

L: Yep. And I definitely wasn't lookin' for ya. Especially after the speech that you're going to hookup and cuddle with everyone in the house--

E: I didn't really say it like that. YOu know where I was coming from, I basically just wanted it to be clear that I'm the way I am, don't look into it, I'm not here to hook up with the whole house. I like attention and I get attention.. for the first week and a half I was totally, like, playing on Kiki. (tells a story about Kiki rubbing lotion on him week 1)

L: Wait, I was doing the suntan!

E: But she was doing the other.

L: Oh, you cheater! (joking)


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Aug 07 2002 00:36, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21869    Link
More of the date....
Eric pours wine.

They talk about how cute Josh was getting the door for them.

Chiara brings them their bread. Eating. Eric making "yummy" noises.

L: How cute is it that everyone is participating?

E: I can't wait to take you to the beach.

L: I can't wait for just the little things....

E: I know, I know...

L: Just, 'let;s go to Mcdonald's" or go to the movies.

(another plane going over...can't hear a thing)

L: I'm so glad that I met you. Good things come when you're not looking for them.

E: It's true.

Lisa picks on Eric for his "hooking up with everyone" speech. He says it wasn't like that, but does admit to hitting on Kiki a bit the first week...trying to get attention.

L: <joking> Oh, you cheater!

Chiara brings them more food. They tell her she's a great waitress, compliment her on her clothes. She says she'll be back with their salad soon.

L: I'm probably going to hold your hand throughout the whole thing.

E: that's okay.

Chiara comes back with water. Apologizes because BB didn't give them the right water glasses.

(missed a couple minutes....)

E: Whether it's you here or me here, we're going to talk to each other in the DR...at the close of every DR session.

Chiara comes back with their salad.

Eating, joking about Eric's sleep talking, Lisa saying how cute it all is.

Lisa asks what they should do cute for their DR sessions. She suggests saying , "hi." Eric talks about the one who leaves being able to watch the other sleeping on the internet.

E: We're not talking about the game, remember.

L: We're not.

L: I'm not even worried about who stays or not.

E: Me either.

L: And it's such a great feeling.

E: I could go home and be happy.

Aug 07 2002 00:37, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21872    Link
Even more of the date...
Josh comes out and does a ridiculous accent, asks them if everything is okay. <laughing>

Chiara comes back with more salad, E goes in to the WC, Kiki sits with Lisa and they talk about how nice everything is.

L: Can I says something really cheesy? This is the most romantic thing I've ever done.

E: We're going to blow this out of the water. There will be many opportunities.

Lisa says Champagne will give you headaches but that's okay because tomorrow is voting day and they can stay in bed. E agrees, laughs.

Lisa asks if he will be mad at her if she's the one that stays. He says he won't be.

Lisa asks if there's some part of E that she hasn't seen because they're in the BB house. Eric says, no, but he knows there's parts of Lisa she's held back. She doesn't really disagree, starts to say something and Kiki comes back...and my feed times out.

Reconnected and now Roddy has joined the party. They're talking. Josh is back with his silly accent Chiara comes out with food (I've lost audio...switching feeds)

They're eating. Both agree it's very good - tastes like restaurant food. I can't see what they're eating. Eric mentions rice.

Lisa wonders if they'll have hammock time or if they'll be in lockdown afterwards.

They wonder whether Roddy is slimming down or getting bigger. E says both. Lisa says it's funny that the guys are losing weight and the girls are gaining.

E: Lisa, you're body is amazing and I wouldn't notice....

Josh is back, pouring wine. "Zee finest wine in California."

Lisa gets up, walks around the table and kisses Eric. She says, " A little preview of desert while you're still having the main course."

E: Wow! What does that entail...

L: whatever....

E: Can't wait to get out of this house...

Dinner continues. Small talk, flirting. C brings them more water. They say how good everything is.

(This and my last 2 posts were transcribed while I was unable to connect to the site)

Aug 07 2002 00:43, Wed ktanForum: 080702 Post: 21880    Link
L on E's lap unwrapping gift...it's a framed photo of them together from about a week ago! NT

Aug 07 2002 00:45, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21888    Link
The date continues.....
On the quad cam. Eric and Lisa's date continues with audio form the date.

C/M/Ja are in the HRD. C is doing something, but I can't tell what...preparing something for the "date" going on outside, perhaps.

E and L talking about chocolate covered strawberries.

Kiki is putting rose petals on the big bed in the HRD.

Josh comes out and asks gets their plates. E/L debate opening something Presents on the table...can't see).

L comes around, sits on E's lap and E opens the present.

Meanwhile, M is helping put rosepetals on the bed and the other HGs are making dessert for the couple.

The present is a picture...can't see of what...I assume it's of the couple together. E keeps saying it's awesome. Kiki and Josh come out and are shownthe pic. Josh keeps saying Wow! Kiki echo's E's awesome. E says it's perfect.

They are left alone with their desert and the pic that they are very pleased with.

Aug 07 2002 00:46, Wed rickh710Forum: 080702 Post: 21890    Link
Update Material From Late This Afternoon...
Didn't see this posted, so here's a brief recap from the late afternoon hours:

Cards between Danielle, Jason and Gerry while Lisa and Chiara sunbathed by the pool. Idle chit-chat, no real talk about "the game."

Later, while Marcellas was doing laundry on the patio, he and Gerry had a conversation about tomorrow's voting. M asked G if Roddy had approached him yet about the vote. Gerry said no, that he and R were supposed to conversate (my word) tonight. M warned G that R would try to get him to vote for Lisa if it comes down to a tie-breaker. M says that R is bent on keeping Eric because E has promised to get rid of Josh. As M said to G: "Why don't Roddy and Chiara concentrate on getting Josh out themselves? Ask yourself that!" M wanted reassurance from G that he would get rid of E in a tie-breaker situation because if E stays he, R and Chi-Whora would be a strong force. G reassured M that he would vote E out.

M also told G that Josh had approached him with a deal to not put each other up should they get HOH. M told G that he agreed to the deal with Jo, but plans to break his promise should it be necessary. M still wants Jo out ASAP.

Aug 07 2002 00:47, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21892    Link
F1 - Eric and Lisa dinner date - 2


F1:


(continued)




E: It did work out, didn't it?

L: You do like a lot of attention, huh?

E: I do.

(Chiara returns. Asks how they are..)

L: You are the best, best best best waitress...

C: And you know.. never once have I served.

E: You look like you should be a ..

C: Thank you. And I always help waiters and waitresses... bringing plates and stuff. Okay, your salad should be coming soon.


(They thank her)

L: Sorry, but I'm probably going to have to hold your hand through the whole thing.. I'll have to eat with it.

E: No problem...

(Chiara returns and apologizes for "the crew" not setting up the right water glasses.)

L: These are cute and expensive.. you even have pearl earrings on, how cute?

C: This is a fancy restaurant, they require pearl earrings and everything.

L: What's it called?

C: Che Big Brotheaui.. (spitting noise)

L: How cute is this that we're going to have this on tape?

E: I know. It's ridiculous.. ridiculous how .. remember how I told you my memory's shot sometimes and I forget about little things like this. It's just cool, you know, that I have proof.

L: I'm gonna miss ya.

E: I know. I'm going to miss you too. It won't be long.

L: It's gonna go by fast I think.

(Chiara returns.. corrects Eric for calling her Kiki. She's "Chiara the Waitress".)


Lisa asks if they're treating her well in the kitchen. Chiara shoots back "You have NO idea".

L: I get no compliments from you in your sleep talking and you call me the wrong name-

Lisa gets him to look back and check out everybody being busybodies. She also points out that Gerry is sitting back and not contributing.. Eric responds with a "Whatever. He wouldn't know how to be a part of something sweet." Lisa wants to figure out something with Eric that they can do from one to the other in the Diary Room.. "something cute".

L: Should we just say Hi? (baby) Hi.

E: Well.. I really hope that the whole online thing, we're still online, we can still..

L: See it?

E: I dunno, yah. I can see you sleep, you can see me sleep, I can hear you talk..

L: Yeah. When I'm out of the house, you'll be talking about me.

E: I know.

L: Yeah, you're in the room with Gerry.


E brings up the not agreeing to talk about the game. Lisa says she's not worried about who stays or goes - neither is Eric. Lisa thinks it's a great feeling, Eric says he's ready to go home. He could "go home and be so happy". Josh breaks the calm with an impression of something resembling a hyperactive monkey.

Chiara comes back and says "We hear that your boyfriend has a very big appetite".

L: Does that mean he gets seconds?

Eric asks her to keep her company while he relieves himself. He gets up and in an instant we're conversing with Lisa and Chiara. Lisa thinks it's cute. She means it this time.

C: Isn't it adorable?

L: I know, the flowers..

C: Are those your favorite flowers?

L: It's like my tattoo. Wait til you see what that is.

C: Will you not tell me?

L: No.

Chiara compliments Big Brother on the job they did with the spread.. Lisa returns the compliment and tells Kiki how great she looks. Chiara says it's cute. E returns with a line about having Roddy the violinist - Lisa says they should have Jason out as their singer. Eric wishes for Roddy to come out and say hi.

(Chiara leaves with an innuendo about enjoying dessert)

L: This is pretty good.

E: Excellent. I was in there and said "I'm thinking about buying this restaurant" and Dani said "It's black owned!"

L: No she didn't! (laughs)

E: How you doin'?

L: Can I tell you something really really cheesy?

E: Absolutely.

L: This is the most romantic thing I've ever done.

E: Is it really?

L: Yeah. I was in the room, somebody was talking to me and said Lisa you're so excited, looks like you're going on a prom date.

E: And I appreciate it but we're going to blow this out of the water - there's many opportunities.



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Aug 07 2002 00:49, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21894    Link
F1 - Eric and Lisa dinner date - 3
F1:

(continued)



L: I don't even need to - I'm just looking forward to sitting with you on a couch.

E: Things like this, which are nice.. but we'll do a lot better. Okay?

L: Better than wrapping up my foot for two solid weeks? Taking care of my assets?

E: I have limited resources inside this house. Outside I'm a King.

(both eating)

Lisa says she's excited before they chat a little about which HG did what for their dinner. They talk about having champagne and Lisa jokes that since tomorrow's voting day, they can do anything tonight, stay up late, and get up when they want to tomorrow. Eric's bit about that is "and get voted against".

L: You're not going to have any hard feelings against me if I stay?

E: Why would I?

L: I'm just asking..

E: No.

L: But you better get the job done.

E: That's what I'm thinking. It's about you.

L: How beautiful is it gonna be - if ..

E: Are we talking game, by the way?

L: Yeah. Just one sentence. But you or I, as one of the two last persons to be here.. wins the last Head of Household.

E: That'd be one good DR session right there.. absolutely.

L: Do you think there's a big part of you that I don't know about you that I get to find out later?

E: A *big* part of me? Nothing that's gonna blow your mind I don't think - I'll be honest with ya.

L: Have you.. held back from telling me things since we've been here?

E: Not really. Are you scared?

L: No, but there are certain things that -outside of here- I would love to spill my heart to you about.

(Chiara returns with Roddy)

C: As requested..

L: For our entertainment. Could you please philosophize for us about that Plane and where it's going..

R: Well... (jokingly) it's turning Northwest so it's probably going to Alaska..



Roddy praises them on the whole setup and how nice it is. "What nice people". R asks L what they told them about their wardrobes and gifts. E tells him that they were just throwing around the idea of having a date, themeselves, in a chat at the hammock recently. And that they told others this and they said "we'd like to do that for you".

R says he's been watching their date.. "and it's so sweet. So much sweetness in the air".

Josh comes back out to help them serve the main course. Even they say they don't know, so I'm not guessing yet.

E: Mm. Red peppers.

L: To our first date! How clever does it look. I bet Marcellas was behind the presentation.

E: You know and I saw a little romane strip on there before and I went against it..


(okay, put my money on boneless chicken)


L: How is it? Pretty good?

E: Yeah. I'm excited.

L: It tastes pretty good, like it should.. like restaurant food.

E: Exactly. And white rice.. yummy. And pepper. And they've been really good with salt lately. A pepper mill would have been nice, huh?

(offers her pepper/salt)

L: We can get hammock time after this, right?

E: Absolutely.

L: No, they said they're going to do a lockdown.. it's probably to clear this.


Roddy is roaming nearby so they talk about R and his build.. Eric says he's "definitely got size". Lisa thinks it's funny that in the Big Brother House the women are gaining weight and the men losing it. Eric compliments her on her body.. Josh comes back and they thank him and answer that the food is great. Another refill and he's off.



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Aug 07 2002 00:54, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21899    Link
F1 - Eric and Lisa dinner date - 4
F1:



(E&L's date transcript continued from updates below)


L: I find it so amazing that some people just work together - or some people don't - it's just how everything seems to be so...

E: And it goes so beyond, uh, like uh.. career, geography, height/weight, age, all that stuff. Interesting. And I can remember the day you were out there in your thong - and I remember thinking "Wow, what a great body"

L: And you complimented me on it-

E: Was I kind of nice about it?

L: You told me that my ass was "bangin".

(He laughs, embarassed)

L: I took that as "nice". Because I didn't know the other side of you, then..

(loud plane)

L: But then, you were in trouble, when I saw what I consider what's really there. Like, when we were talking near the pool and I was laying out and I saw - the real passion in your eyes and the sensitivity. And I said yeah, I see where I can work this.

E: (smirk) Eh, can't help it.

E: Can't wait for that door to swing open again.

(Lisa looking at Josh weaseling around inside)

L: His walk is amazing.

(Chiara comes back out.. more water. She checks on them)

E asks about the sauce and C says "that's the chef, he'll have to tell you all later on."


More chatter. Lisa explains that she has flashbacks whenever she handles a bottle of champagne, from her "champagne days". Eric's uninterested and still eating.

L: I'm finding it so hard to believe, I don't know why.. that they cooked up this recipe with what we had left, and it actually came from them.

E: It actually makes things a lot better - know what I mean? It wasn't something delivered and prepared by chefs..

L: I know, it's so cute..

E: It's the best we had, but it's so good.

L: And Gerry's in there eating happily, so he's good.

E: Exxxcellent. Think I consumed like two whole red peppers.

L: Peppers are good for you. Ruffage. Not that we need to be talking about ruffage right now..

E: Mm-hmm.


Sort of a prolonged eye-contact.. some romantic gazing.

E: What's dessert? Strawberries? Chocolate-covered?

L: Mm-hmm. It's so funny, because that's my throw me over the edge, passion food... (tells about seeing it be made earlier today)

E: He started cooking like hours ago. And he was like.. 'I hope you guys know I'm stealing food so we have some for Thursday night'

L: What a good guy. There has to be some good down in there, right?

E: I guess...



Eric talks about strawberries and chocolate sauce. Gerry is apparently head of dessert. Lisa says she's more than satisfied..

E: Really?

L: Yeah. You want to finish my rice? Aww.. it's almost present time.

E: Hehehehe (as Josh returns collecting plates)


Eric and Lisa agree to exchange presents now. Lisa asks if she can sit on his lap.. "absolutely". Eric's is done up in purple and red and he's opening it.... she kisses him as he unwraps it. E says he knows what it is, thinks it's got to be a photo and he wonders where it came from. He chuckles when it opens "Oh my god.."


E: That is so awesome.

L: That's cute.

E: That's great.

(No shot of it directly yet but it's a still shot BB took of them in the backyard)

E: So this is a still shot they took somewhere? Awesome.

L: That's so cute.

(Chiara and Josh head over)

C: Are we giving out presents?

(both are surprised)

Jo: Wow!

C: That's so awesome..

Jo: Some dessert?

L: Yes, thank you..

(it's served)

E: You know, this is perfect. It really is.

L: Yeah, I told them if you could get a snapshot of us with the cameras or whatever, you could put it in a frame.. and that's what we got.

E: That's very nice.

L: Thank you.

(sharing choco-covered cherries)

Eric talks to her about the picture a bit more. Chiara interrupts and asks if they would like coffee.. neither are interested. Jokes that their espresso and cappucino machines are broken tonight. Mushy feeding each other cherries and some more chit-chat.

Danielle comes out to check on them and she woos over the photo. Eric says, "How cool is that? We think it couldn't have been more than a week ago". E offers a cherry but she says she's a PB&Jer.

L: By the way, she knows about Hi. I had to blow your cover.

E: The funny thing is, it wasn't meant to be anything...

L: To YOU, it wasn't!

E: But it's funny how - that's what, that's how I am. And that's what you like.

L: That's not what I like. That's what I've *wanted*.

E: Right.

E asks her about her hair in the shot. E: "That's so cool. It's so good to have".

L: That's a good one. A power piece.

E: What's that mean?

L: Oh, a power piece.. on the chess board, to protect your queen.

E: I just think it's cool to have. Think we have to get married?



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Aug 07 2002 00:57, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21902    Link
And the date goes on.....
Quad cam - E/L's date on 2 feeds with audio. One feed on Gerry and Roddy in the Mash room. Another following Kiki around.

E says it's great picture. He says that whoever stays gets to keep the picture, that it will be cool to have here. Lisa's aks him wouldn't he rather have it. He says wants it, but thinks if she's still in the house, it be good for her to have, for strength. L agrees.

Dani comes out briefly, asks if everything is okay. She exclaims over the picture.

They are talking, feeding each other chocolate covered strawberries.

The Hgs inside are cleaning up. E/L talking about the picture again. (Switching feeds to try to get a better look at it.)

Eric keeps looking at the picture, smiling.

They're still feeding each other, holding hands, looking in each other's eyes over glasses of pink champagne. (ed. Awww...)

Another plane going over, Eric smiling at the picture again.

Eric is asking BB for another picture for Lisa.

Lisa smiling at Eric...she looks very happy.

Aug 07 2002 01:02, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21913    Link
F1 - Eric and Lisa continued - 5
F1:


Eric goes on to say that they'll have to have two glasses champagned and choco-covered strawberries every time they go out to dinner. Lisa tells him that dinner isn't the place he should be serving her chocolate covered strawberries... "it's a hormonal thing. I'm trying to control it"
They admire the picture.

L: I think it's off the Internet.

E: I wish I'd gotten you something that's not going to die.

L: I'll hang them upside down.. dried flowers? I can keep them. Anytime someone gives me flowers I keep them.

(silence)

L: Now all I want to do is look at you and say "Hi". Oh, look, Josh has his jacket on.

E: So when we go back inside is everyone going to be all over us?

L: I think they'll be nice. Josh? Josh is probably in the Diary Room saying I'll do anything to keep my ass safe from those two.

E: It'll be funny when you put him up next week (mocks) "I don't care what you cooked me"--


Eric tells her that this is a great place.. but probably not the ideal place to share what they're thinking about.

L: You know, so now that we had this dinner together - I'm assuming everyone knows we like each other. So if you think I'm leaving you alone tomorrow, the next day or whatever, you're in trouble.

E: Not a problem. I wasn't expecting you to leave me alone today, didn't want you to.

L: I didn't want to.

E: I know, but you've got your own time to spend on this stuff..

L: With who?

E: Laying out with Kiki, talking with M.. I don't want you to just get up and leave. I don't want our last days here to be just with each other.

L: It's funny, I was talking with Kiki and she told me you were annoyed I wasn't spending time with you..

E: It was such a joke, I think she used it as fuel because we get along too well. Roddy was there.

L: I don't need it confirmed, I'm just saying..

E: Exactly.

L: My whole thing is, you have your relationships too.. but I know I have you all night long.

E: This is true. Poor Jay. Bet you he stays out tonight.. he thinks we'll be having sex all over the beds. He came in *early*, like daylight. When I went up and got to my bed, he was in bed. If you want to estimate it was 5 or 6 o'clock in the morning, he didn't go to bed til 4.

L: Was that last night?

E: Yeah.

L: Last night was when you *told* me you were leaving. That was so cute.

E: Yep.

L: And the night before is the one where you just left.

E: Yes.




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Aug 07 2002 01:08, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21927    Link
The date still going.....
They are talking about making sure they spend time with everyone while theyr'er here. E says he doesn't want Lisa to think she has to spend evry moment with him, to spend time with Kiki, Dani, Marc.

L: You have your relationships too and I have you all night long.

E talking about waking L up during the night, how he was gentle, didn't want to scare her.

L: Hi. <laughs>

E asks if she thinks things would have gone differently if she hadn't hurt her toe or been bitten by a spider. Lisa says yeah. E says the attraction was there because, but taking care of her allowed him to become close to her. L says she's "super shy" and if theat hadn't happened, she might not have opened up to him.

They're talking about how L hurt her foot and how E became involved in helping her.

Kiki comes out and says, "It's late and we'd like to shift you."

E: Shift us?

C: Leave the table.

L: Will be be coming back to finish or should we take this with us.

C: I'll bring it.

L/E follow C through the house to the HRF. C shows them their bed, tells them to enjoy your night. Tells them to enjoy their night and tells them the sign says occupied.

The hug, talk about how cute it is, and both leave for the WC.

C is not outside explaining the "hi" thing to Roddy and Jason and Marc. Roddy jokes that Marc is going to cry.

Aug 07 2002 01:11, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21936    Link
Dinner over....
Quad came. M/R/Ja outside. Ja and Roddy wishing they could use the HT. Ja wishing they had a punching bag because he wants ome tonight. Marc making fun of the dinner's wine list and laughing at chocolate covered strawberries made with m&ms

Meanwhile in the bathroom, Lisa is talking to Dani (can't hear, of course)

FOTH

Aug 07 2002 01:11, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21937    Link
F1 - Eric and Lisa continued - 6

F1:


(date continued)


Chiara comes out and says "it's late, but we have another surprise". She asks them to move, that she has to shift them. The couple gets up to follow Chiara.. Josh opens the door for them as they come in. Feed doesn't follow them in, changing.

F3 comes to me with bathroom cam. Eric's looking into the mirror while holding his champagne glass. Waiting on Lisa in W/C. She comes out (yes, she washes her hands) and E goes in. Danielle comes in and checks on her. "You having a good time?" "Yeah." "That's good, sweetie". She explains picking out their gifts.. D asks if they knew about it and she says they didn't. Quick hug. Kiki comes in and gets the same.

Eric tells Chiara that they're not taking their room tonight. He starts to elaborate and.. FOTH.

Aug 07 2002 01:12, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 21940    Link
The dinner is over and Chi has hustled them away from the table.
Chi and Josh escort them to the HRD and explain the situation, including the fact that the w/c "Do Not Disturb" sign will be placed on the door. (The camera guy was pointing out the missing "Do Not Disturb" sign this afternoon. I was away. Did everyone else know about that part of the plan?) L& E are moved. Lisa remarks that the room contains "a cross and a magnifying glass - kinda scary" Before proceeding, they both break for the bathroom. The camera moves back to the yard and Chi explaining to Roddy the "Hi" story. Is there anyone in the civilized world who hasn't heard that story yet?) Nothing much else happening. Marc starts riffling cards at the yard table, so I guess the game will be resuming soon. FOTFH

Aug 07 2002 01:13, Wed hohumForum: 080702 Post: 21946    Link
FOTH NT

Aug 07 2002 01:15, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 21952    Link
Apparently BB told the HGs they better have their act together (and look decent) for voting tomorrow morning. NT

Aug 07 2002 01:18, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21958    Link
F1 - Roddy talks to BB's Shannon over speakers (more)
F1:


Josh and Roddy tossing ducks around in the backyard.. wondering who is manning the BB controls right now. Roddy speculates that Shannon (BB voice) is working today. He tosses out, "Is it Shannon?"

After a few moments, we hear a female "Yeah".

R: Oh-hoh! You been working hard?

BB-S: Every day.

R: So you hear me make all kinds of comments about how much I like Shannon..

(No response)

R: See?

BB-S: It adds up..

R: Ah!


More talk about it a minute or two later. R says she sounds like the kind of chick who likes the Kings, and hates dorks who were on reality shows. R points out that he deliberately left out "celebrity" in that.. he's akin to someone who won trivia night at a local bar. Jokes he'll be doing every open mic night around.

Aug 07 2002 01:19, Wed hohumForum: 080702 Post: 21960    Link
L: I feel like teenagers being forced into the closet together. E: At least you know what to do in the closet now! NT

Aug 07 2002 01:23, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 21972    Link
Out of Sequence Post from 5:10 BBT - during the "troubles"
Roddy & Chi in HRD talking about Eric and Lisa and the vote, and, of course, Josh. Rod says "I don't think she likes you much" (Lisa?) (At this point, they seem unsure as to who is going.) Chi says she was "so close to T(onya)' and is not going to vote Lisa. Roddy says he is in her corner If Roddy makes HoH, he will "Put one of those guys up instead of 2 (Josh with Eric perhaps) Chi: "like this whole Lisa thing, he's going to f**k you" and "we could be in danger because of him (Josh or Eric?)" Camera concentrates on the closed door (is someone on the other side listening?). Talking of the phoney alliance between Josh and Gerry and how they will be working them for the next 6 weeks to get the others to like one more than the other (6 weeks?, where's the confidence?). Chi: I want to talk to Eric next week" (so now they assume Eric will stay) FOTFH (I got in on this late and am so confused)

Back to the HRD and pensive silence. Roddy: "the evidence is ridiculously overwhelming" (I have no idea what that is about, but Chi apparently does) They leave the room, but have some difficulty opening the door. (Apparently, the door was blocked from the outside, see camera foreshadowing, above). Someone asked repeatedly "How did you guys get out?" Roddy replies, "superhuman strength"

[Sorry, this makes less sense than usual. I had trouble making sense of it and got in late. Feel free to delete.]

Aug 07 2002 01:25, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21976    Link
The date moves to the HRD
E/L in HRD. C bringing them water.

L: I feel like we're in 7th grade and being forced in the closet together.

E: But this time we know what to do in the closet.

E is collecting the rose petals, wants to save them. Chiara says to throw them on the floor, but he ignores her.

Chiara leaves.

E/L lie on the bed. E has the globe, they're going to look at it and plan where they're going to go on vacation.

They are now studying the globe. Pointing out places, talking, laughing.

Now they move to the map on the wall. E is showing L where he lives on the map.

Discussion of where to go on their roadtrip. A quick kiss. More trip talk.

Aug 07 2002 01:34, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 21989    Link
Dani and Jason in the LR
D/Ja playing cards, whispering. Jason is saing thast he keeps getting asks and has to lie. (Someone is banging pans around in the background and it makes it evenharder to heear what theyr'er saying)

Dani says somethin about having to give reasons...I think.

D: You know what to tell 'em? Don't do it Ja. (ed. ??)

Card talk.

Switches to E/L. E goes out and asks Kiki if it's okay if they went to the hammock. Kiki says "sure, anything you do together."

Aug 07 2002 01:34, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 21990    Link
F1 - Jason and Danielle whisper in living room (more)
F1 jumps to the Living Room, where Jason and Danielle are opposite each other playing cards.
Jason says he's been wishy-washy about what he wanted to do about Veto.. he says What does Josh want to do? Ja says he needs to tell Roddy. D says "Why?" Didn't make out Jason's response but he mentioned Chiara telling Roddy.

Danielle: Has he asked you how you're going to vote?

Jason: Essentially... (long pause)


(Jason was about to explain something but stops, apparently saw someone within earshot.. that convo dies)


D: Your turn.

J: Okay.


(very long silent period)


J: I have a really bad hand right now.

D: Jay, you can't tell 'em..

(pause)

D: Here. You need that, right?

J: I sure do! Thanks.


More cards chat.

J: Nice. I had squat in my hand. Negativos.

D: Okay, so I have 80.

(Marcy passes)

J: What's up, there Marc?

M: Running from someone. It's too late. What are you guys playing?

D: Ah, a little Rummy.

M: Okay, enjoy.

D: Gerry, are you retiring..

G: No.



Aug 07 2002 01:45, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 22001    Link
F1 - In HoH, Gerry and Marcellas plot about next week, Nazi comment, more (long)
(F1 switch to Gerry and Marcellas in HoH.. just arrived and sat down)


Marcellas expresses how he sometimes wants to get away from people. G says that's why they retreated in here. G gets it off his chest that he feels like the [censored] for putting up the people going on the date - also says no-one's come to him to spare Eric.

G: I guess they've got the votes.

M: I think it's going to be 3-3..

G: The House can only have so many Alpha Males. If it knocks me out, it knocks me out.. got to put the game back on an even keel. I hate to be the one busting up romance, but..

M: Now if everyone else in here was seriously playing the game, they wouldn't have treated it like the Dating Game and paired off.. or they would have done it really on the down low.

G: Was it this blatant last year?

M: Will/Shannon was.. and the trashy girl from Louisiana. Both of them were -- fairly obvious. I guess they all paid for it in the end. Shannon was the first out, that guy was first out. I think that was more about that 4some, how they were originally "We're the cool people - they're the other people".

G: That's what my plan is all about. I don't want it to degenerate into that.

M: Yeah. But I think this is in the opposite way.. this year it's in the middle, last year it was in the beginning. But that 4some was part of the 6 people I didn't like anyway. I felt they were their own group, it's just the end of that.

G: R keeps wanting to talk to me...


Gerry explains that Roddy pitched Josh having to leave but Gerry asked him why he didn't vote him out when he had the chance. M says Kiki explained it the best.. Josh is behaving like the kid who has the birthday party to enjoy the gifts. Milking the moment. Gerry confirms that Chiara said that.. M says nobody's fooled by him because he's way too obvious, M thinks that was Josh's problem from the beginning.

G says he can forgive a lot of things "but calling me a f***ing nazi. I can forgive him because he's a mess, but I can't forget it. I cannot condone that behavior - dues have to be paid".

M: Does he really want Josh to stay?

G: I don't know, I wanted to talk about the ethical nature of it. If Roddy's in it to play the game anyway, I'm toast.


M&G speculate about Eric's votes if he stays in.. both think his and R's support is diminished. G admits that if he is put up against anyone but Josh, he's gone. He emphasizes it further. "My safety next week really lies in you, Danielle and Jason".

M: If one of us gets it, we'll put up someone else.

G: Maybe Chiara.. she's had enough of his sh**.. and maybe Roddy. My point with R is that if E is gone R needs me as an ally, absolutely if he wants to spend weeks in this house. But it depends on what his motivation is.


Gerry says that Lisa's been nicer to him since their talk but he did go into the thing intending for her to go. M asks why and he brings up her injuries. M says that if Lisa stays and sees 3-3 she'll know someone turned on her. M thinks both Kiki and Roddy want Eric to stay.. speculation on this. M says Kiki told him that eric will go after Josh.. but M thinks that's an obvious lie because he says Roddy, Chiara, Eric and Josh are 4. "And just us, which makes 4".

M says Kiki says that Eric will go after Josh just to stroke him and they're really still behind Josh.

M: I'm not stupid. Don't play me. You're turning on your own girl for your own benefit. Because R still wants his boy in this house because he and his boy think they still run it. It's textbook and I love it b/c they think I'm stupid and they play me all the time.


Gerry mentions that Josh thinks they have a deal.. and says "let him think that til I vote his ass out. But it's pointless to conjecture about it until you see how it comes out on Thursday" G again says he doesn't think he's safe next week. M feels that the others want to selectively throw up Josh - they're keeping him around.


G: "They don't want to do the dirtywork. You know what? Fine. Keep him in here and it will be hell. It will grate, and grate, and grate. If that's what it costs to win a half-million dollars, hell, I'm out the door. I'd like to see 4 semi-moral people, I consider myself semi-moral.. I guess I am moral because I recognize I am immoral. Know what I mean?"

(knock on door)

M: Yes?

(Kiki enters offering iced coffee and cappucinos... leaves)

G: Eh, I guess everyone knows we're pretty tight. Josh keeps pumping me.. am I safe with M, am I safe with M. I tell him that M doesn't tell me anything.

M: I've had 1, maybe 2 convos with him. I can't talk to him. I don't know why he would even bother to have one with me, he knows I openly don't like him at every turn.

G: Because fundamentally he is such an insecure person he has to find an angle - he's afraid that if you pull it away you'll find that nothing's there. "He's just so f***ed up". G compares him to a 14-year-old student of his.. on Josh: "He's a boy, not a man. Don't publicly call someone a Nazi and not expect it to bite you on the ass."

G and M both express that, at points, they're just ready to go home. G says he's thinking about his job, how much he likes it... wants to get back to it. G adds that the longer he stays the more "notorious" he becomes.. and he says he wanted some fame so he could teach about it, but "be careful what you wish for".

M feels every bit of novelty, of being on camera 24/7, has worn off. M says that makes people stay only for the grand prize money at this point..




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Aug 07 2002 01:47, Wed Not AOLForum: 080702 Post: 22006    Link
Gerry and Marcellas in HoH
Talking strategy. He is concerned that the house is making him out to be the bad guy, because he is the one who nominated Eric and Lisa. Marcellas said it had to be done. Gerry wanted to know if anyone from last year was so obvious. Marcellas says Will and Shannon.

Marcellas tells Gerry that Chiara is going to vote for Lisa. And that if Eric doesn't go they will be a solid four. Josh, Eric, Roddy and Chiara. Marcellas thinks that 'the four' think they are playing him. Roddy wants to keep his 'boy' Eric in the house.
If Lisa stays she'll see that the group tried to vote her out and she'll have to look elsewhere.

Gerry says that Roddy doesn't want to vote Josh out. Marcellas says that 'they' want 'us' to do the dirty work.

Gerry saying he is glad he saved Marcellas. Gerry says he is fighting the subtle forms of racism and homophobia. Mercellas is getting board. He is saying every bit of novalty of being on camera has worn off. It is now all about the money. Gerry misses his job, but he likes being here.(the HoH room). He can get some peace in the HoH room.

Marcellas goes to brush his teeth. Gerry asks for a hug. They hug and Marcellas leaves.

Dani and Jason are playing cards in the living room.

Aug 07 2002 01:53, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22012    Link
E and L have changed into comfortable clothes and are getting ready to go outside to the hammock...
E asking L to help him pack.

The hug. Lisa says they should have fun. Eric says he's fine.

Lisa and Eric worry to Dani that they're being insulting to everyone. They're worried about putting everyone out of the HRD. Kiki is telling them that's it's fine, everyone thinks it's worth it, wants to do this for them.

Josh comes in. L hugs him, tells him he's one heck of a waiter.

Chiara is telling L/R that her dream job is to open a Bed & Breakfast in Vermont.

Lisa in the kitchen waiting for E to come out of the WC, she wonders where Marc is...wonders if he's in the HOH with G.

L/E go out and tell people to please join them if they want.

They go out, E says, "Wow good job, kiki."

Timed out.

They get in the hammock.

L: I have a problem. I have a feeling you don't want to feel this time with me.

E: That's totally not whet I'm hoping you were feeling now.

Lisa is worried becuase he didn't want to stay in that room (HRD). E says he'd just be more comfortable in the room they've been in, but that he's happy to spend the time with her.

E says he sorry that she got that feeling, that it's not true at all. Lisa tells him that everyone feels bad about splitting them up and want to do this for them.

Snuggling, kissing.


E thinks they'd sleep comfortable in the hammock. L says he'd roll over and she'd flip off.

E says he had a very good time tonight and that it was perfect. He wishes he could have gotten her something more sentimental.

Snuggling. Lisa starts to laugh.

E: What?

L: I think we're cute. (ed. And so do I.)

Lisa thinks they're being portrayed as more cute than sexy.

Aug 07 2002 02:09, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22032    Link
The late night quadcam ...
LR one close, one long shot on Jason, Marc. Dani. Jason leaves for the WC and Marc comments that Ja has perfect legs. Dani says she'll give him that.

Now M talking about wanting to improve his body while he's in there. He says maybe he'll pose nude when he gets out. <joking> He says, no, he wouldn't pose nude. Dani, says "Yes you would if the money was good. 6 figures." M says "No, I can't buy a house with that." M says 250 and up, clear, and he'll do it - 500 and he'll work himself into a lather. M/D laughing.

Meanwhile, E/L are looking very cozy in the hammock. One close shot, one long shot.

Dani sayin she'd never pose nude.

Feed switches to Roddy and Chiara in the HRD. They're talking game talk...

E/L are very close, smiling, talking (altho' I can't hear), E kisses L's forehead.

Roddy talking about Josh, Gerry, Jason...the usual suspects. R says something about wanting to beat the sh*t out of Jo, about the house shrinking, Jo being annoying. R talking about there being nowhere to go to get away from people in the house. C agrees.

C wonders what she's going home to..she doesn't want to stop haivng fun. She says R has the movie to go home to, but she doesn't know what she has.

E/L kissing on the hammock now.

Aug 07 2002 02:18, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 22040    Link
F1 - Chiara and Roddy chat on HRD bed..... (scattered)
F1 jumped over to Roddy and Chiara whispering gametalk. R says "If you're gonna be full of sh**, you can't be for all 33 days."


They're talking about Jason and if he's playing the game or manipulating people. They both mention that the DR has asked them about him.. Roddy thinks there is no way, that if someone had that in mind they would show it every so often. R thinks Ja can't be "playing" people at all. He changes topics, he feels everyone is being awkward tonight.. because they like the E/L couple.

Roddy then talks around the fact that Josh is annoying. I think he whispered "he's just a real piece of sh**". He explains to her that marking off their space for Eric/Lisa today shrunk the house incredibly and made him that much more annoyed with Josh's behavior.


R: The house feels incredibly small tonight. I went and sat in the shower. The reason was.. there was nowhere to go. Those guys were here and they were about to go outside..


Chiara says she won't want it to stop this when it is over, she won't want to stop having fun with everyone.. she tells R at least he has a "movie to go home to". R brings up her getting defensive about being a "corporate person" sometime before.. she says it's because she has been that before. R relates a story he heard from D last night - she wants to be a top personal trainer - that it's attainable. Ties this into Chiara and what she could make out of this opportunity and what she could do post-show.

Now he's- well, no condensing it because he's all over the place, even by Roddy standards. He asks her if she wants to be an actress, she says 'we'll see'.. and he asks what she really wants to do, she says she doesn't want to talk about it. She tells him that she forgot to mention something today.. that R is welcome to stay at her place any time he's in the city. R replies he'll take her up on that.

R wants to know why she wants to not talk about it. She says "because everyone's listening" and assertively tries to close down the conversation. Chiara says she does regret some things leaking out about her - "but they wanted real, so they got real".

A little small talk before shot changes to Gerry talking to Danielle in the LR.

Back to HRD. Chiara says "He is a known multimillionaire in NY. Oddly enough, he's one of the most humble people.."

Predictably back to LR. Gerry says "I wonder if I'm interesting enough. (mocking) Hey, America. Like me! Hmm, maybe that's something else to learn". G wants to go back to college... get his doctorate in Geology or something.


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Aug 07 2002 02:19, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22041    Link
Hammock talk.....
Lisa telling E that she told BB that he wasn't her type, but then 2 days later.

E says Lisa is totally his type. She wants to know why she's more his type than Kiki. He says Kiki is more approachable at first because of how she is, but Lisa is beautiful and almost unapproachable.

L: So...what made me more your type than Kiki.

E: You're more down to earth.

L: Her openness is good.

E: It's good, but it gets to be too much.

E saying Kiki talked about ex boyfriends too much. He's also saying she brags too much (in a very round-about way).

E telling Lisa that she has all these interesting things about her, and that she knows the right times to share, without bragging. He says he's more like Kiki and sometimes doesn't know when to shut up.

They kiss again.

He says he's attracted to that.

E thinks he can be too talkative like Jo and G. Lisa says not. Now talking about G talking about pointless things, or things that are over their heads.

E: When you come across someone who has it and doesn't need to flaunt it, it's just so attractive. I think that's where my attraction came to you.

Another kiss.

Eric looking down at Lisa, smiling.

L: I like you.

E: (smiles, laughs) I like you.

Aug 07 2002 02:32, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22047    Link
More hammock talk.....
L: If you mmet someone else or get married or whatever, will you mail me that picture? I don't want to lose it.

E: Ask me that in a few years.

Smiles. Kissing.

Eric talking about Lisa's face, her "pretty skin." (ed. I don't care what the cynics think, this boy has fallen hard. It's in his eyes.)

L: You know I'm taking a pair of your underwear with me, right? (Ed. and she has too)

Lisa asks what E's parent's are like. He says they're cool, but stay detached from his love life.

E saying that he's the black sheep of the family, he takes risks.

Dani comes out, asks if they're okay. E asks where everyone will sleep. Dani says everyone has room. E/L are worrying about putting people out of their beds. Dani says for them to just enjoy it.

Eric saying a everyone went through so much trouble. Dani says it was a lot of Josh's idea. Dani says, "You gotta give it up. Don't be decieved, but give it up." <laughing> (LOL)

Dani tells them that the food was all Josh, the presentation was Josh.

Kiki yelling out for Dani to come in. Dani (jokes) saying Kiki "don't want none of me. I don't like being pushed around." E joking about D being more tolerant than he thought she would be.

Aug 07 2002 02:33, Wed Aol rocksForum: 080702 Post: 22048    Link
Roddy and Chiara in HRD
They have been chatting for a while. Chiara thinks the diary room is giving her a tip on Jason. Roddy thinks Jason is not playing them. Chiara says she doesn't want to talk about a lot of stuff because she is on camera. She says she has been real on the show. She is not ashamed to says that she wasn't a dork in high school. She was popular. She says it was because her mom was away on the weekend. Roddy wanted to know why. Chiara is embarrassed. Roddy ask it again. Chiara says 'she was away with Men.'
cam cuts to the living room
After a minute. The cam goes back to Roddy and Chiara. Chiara is saying 'He was a multi-millioniare and very well known. But he was also very humble.'
cut to the living room.

After a few minutes of Gerry talking about his pay scale. Cam goes back to Chiara and Roddy.

She says the reason went on a trip to Florida with the guy after only knowing him for a month. She wanted to intensify the relationship. She was very giving but nothing. But he wasn't. She says it was one of the rare times.

Chiara says she learned from this. Roddy says he met her at just the right time.

Josh enters the room. He says he doesn't like Marcellas converation. They recall the 'finger test' story.

Josh says that Chiara and Roddy could try to f*ck under the bed. They could cover the edges so the cameraman can't get a shot. Roddy says the rules say they can't build a fort. The three decide to check on Eric and Lisa in the hammock.

Aug 07 2002 02:34, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22050    Link
R saying that with the backyard and HRD closed, there's nowhere to go. M saying the cameras are getting to him today. NT

Aug 07 2002 02:51, Wed KatForum: 080702 Post: 22052    Link
I made the mistake of checking the "L&E" cam; they were talking about picking boogers out of each others noses! (I'm not making that up!) NT

Aug 07 2002 02:58, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22058    Link
Chiara and Marc. acting silly. Setting up their sleeping cots and pretending they're going camping. Bringing all greenery in with them. NT

Aug 07 2002 03:10, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22071  ParentRootLink
They wake up Jason (more inside)
F1. Kikki and M are running around making a lot of noise, pretending they're being chased by leopards. Kikki goes to the kitchen to get a knife for hunting and a gun (water sprayer bottle). Jason comes in and Kikki says, "I'm sorry, did we wake you." Jason: "no, that's ok I was tossing and turning and heard some noise, you guys are OK." Goes to washroom.

Kikki and M return to the Tiki Room and ask the other HG in the LR to make some animal noises for them so they feel like they're really camping out. No one from the LR bites. So M does his own kukuberra (sp?)

C: "We haven't even set up our firewood yet."
Mar. "what can we burn", C: "Josh's a** should keep us warm"

Aug 07 2002 02:58, Wed AolmaniaForum: 080702 Post: 22059    Link
Eric and Lisa on the hamMOCK
Eric and Lisa are in the hammock. They say they hope they have been showing the cute daytime stuff. Eric says he doesn't want his parents to see some of the nightime stuff. Lisa thinks they have been very tame. Eric says they may be uncomfortable seeing his tongue down her throat. And other stuff. Lisa says they only have been kissing. Eric says what about 'this is where my hand goes when I play football'. Lisa smiles and goes 'shhhh. We've only been kissing'

Lisa and Eric go on to badmouth Gerry. Lisa gives a shout out to her friend. Eric asks if she has Internet access. She says that she sometimes goes to her apartment to view the Internet. Eric says he doesn't have Internet access.

Lisa says the Eric will have good looking sons. Eric asks Lisa if she could help. Lisa says okay. Eric says something about twins. Lisa says twins runs in her family. Her grandmother was a twin. Lisa ask Eric if he wants a full body massage tonight. Eric says yes.

Lisa ask his age. Eric says 27. Lisa says he looks older. Eric says 36. Lisa says he looks around 29. Lisa says she thinks he is older because of his chess skills.

Camera cuts to Chiara and Marcellas getting the Tiki room ready.

Aug 07 2002 03:08, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22070    Link
Kiki and Marc being extremely silly as they "camp out". Marc says "dear journal...they're picking us off one by one." NT

Aug 07 2002 03:13, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22074    Link
Chi and Marc are going on safari. >>>
They have matching head bands and are preparing their jungle encampment in the cot room. They have moved all the plants they can find to the entrance and are hauling in equipment to make it more comfortable. Chhi says that if they need to go potty in the night, they can use the leaves from the plants to wipe themselves. There are frequent references to leopards in the area and needing protection from the rain. They are giggling and laughing and making a great little game of it all. For some reason, they have the lights out in the cot room.

Meanwhile, the lovers are still in their hammock, blissfully aware of any of this. Josh and at least 2 others are in the living room playing a game and ignoring Marc and Chi - except for one comment by Josh that they should "leave his sh*t alone" I don't know where the rest are, but the blinds to the lizard room are closed, so they may be in there.

Marc and Chi are continuing their game like kids. They just ran into the dining room to escape a leopard or lion (I always confuse those two), and they fell down in exhaustion pretending to have saved each other. Jason was in the lizard room and just made his presence known on his way to the w/c. They are both in bed now, but they are giggling so much, it is hard to believe that they are serious about going to sleep. They are calling out to the living room for people to make wild animal noises so that they will feel more in the moment. They are getting no co-operation or acknowledgement from the others. They are now dictating a mock journal entries, like lost explorers on their deathbeds.

There was a FOTH and I was about to post. The feed is back and Jason has come to visit. Chi keeps referring to him as young native boy, and trying to draw him into the fantasy. He sits to enjoy, but does not actually participate. Chi says that his name is "Yum Yum Eatumup"

Aug 07 2002 03:15, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22076    Link
Dear journal.......
Joking about the HGs being picked off one by one...M says an aligator got Tonya. Amy is being used by baboons.


M: Day 87

C: Days feel like months, months feel like years...

M: I miss my momma

Lots of giggling and laughing.

FOTH

M I have been bitten be a tse-tse fly.

M and C are on a roll with the dear journal routine.

C To Jason: Come here young native boy, we have bread! (C calls him yum-yum eat 'em up boy)

they are being really, really silly!

(laughing too much to type)

Aug 07 2002 03:17, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22077    Link
F1 Jason joins C and M in Tiki room. He leaves for a minute and C asks him to bring back the leopard skin from the forest ...
which they said they killed. Jason says he doesn't have a clue what they mean, and C. hints she wants the leopard skin pillow from the chair in there. Jason brings it back like a good soldier.

C does a rain dance and they are all talking Incan. Singing, "yum, yum, eat 'em up, eat 'em up!"


Aug 07 2002 03:19, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22079    Link
Jason joins the fun by making musical whistling native music sounds. C and M have named him Yum Yum NT

Aug 07 2002 03:28, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22082    Link
We appear to have gotten a long FOTFH because of singing "Kumbya" (sp) Is that copywritten? > > >
Jason is hanging around, and they are settling down somewhat to tell campfire stories. Chi is telling the first one. It is terrible, but funny because it is so terrible.

"A girl was baby-sitting 3 kids. After she puts them to bed the phone rings and a voice says "One down two to go" She ignores it and the phone rings again. "Two down one to go" She listens in the hall by the children's doors and they seem to be OK. She calls the police, who say that they will trace the call. When they call back, they say that the call is coming from inside the house, that she should get the kids and wait outside for them to arrive. She hangs up and is going upstairs when the phone rings. The voice says, "3 down, none to go. Now I'm coming after you" She rushes upstairs and into the children's room to find them horribly murdered. When the police arrive, all the kids, and the baby-sitter are dead. THE END

Aug 07 2002 03:29, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22083    Link
C tells M and Ja a scary story about a babysitter and a murderer. NT

Aug 07 2002 03:29, Wed KimMForum: 080702 Post: 22084    Link
Last feed scan of the night......
F1&2:Chiara is now telling ghost stories to Ja and M at their camp out.

F3&4: R/D/Jo in the LR. chess game.

Feeds 3&4 switch to L/E still in the hammock, snuggling, not much talking. E looks like he's falling asleep.

Aug 07 2002 03:31, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22086    Link
C: "It's getting cold." M: "Throw another cannibal on the fire!" C now tells another story. Ja and M listen intently. NT

Aug 07 2002 03:35, Wed JazmineForum: 080702 Post: 22087  ParentRootLink
C: "I see dead people." NT

Aug 07 2002 03:38, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22089    Link
E/L come into the cot room and C pretends they're bears, threatens to shoot them with water spray. L/E just came to say Gnite. NT

Aug 07 2002 04:06, Wed GenieForum: 080702 Post: 22092    Link
CH's antics (long)
CH wants to dress up so she looks like she was attacked by natives in the jungle. She interrupts L and E in the HRD. Li gives her G's tank top that G gave to Li. It is big enough to be a short dress on CH. She makes a joke that it is yellow stained. She straps on her wicker basket and grabs a knife. She walks into the tiki room to show Ja and M. She acts like she has been lost in the jungle. She tells them that she has brought back the foot lotion. Ja says that he is not giving her a foot massage. CH says that she did not ask for one. Ja replies that bringing the foot lotion implies that she wants a foot massage. CH says that she didn't not ask for one but may be insinuating that she wants one.

CH then goes out to R and J (they are playing chess in the LR) and plays her act in front of them. She tells them about her "adventure" in the jungle and tells them that "they have been warned". As she leaves, R grabs her and hugs her.

Then CH grabs a towel or blanket and puts it over her head. She tells D that she has to look like a ghost if they are going to tell ghost stories. She goes into the tiki room again and Ja tells her to go sleep on the bed. She tells Ja that he doesn't understand the concept of camping out. CH then says that if one HRD person is suffering, they are all suffering. M agrees. CH continues with jungle act. Ja gets up and goes to kitchen.

Aug 07 2002 04:13, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22094    Link
The honeymoon couple has gone to bed. Shortly thereafter, Ciara comes in
(I assume that she knocked and got permission, but I had the sound off at first). Some chit-chat occurs as she gets some things she wanted. She finds an undershirt on or under the bed by the door that presumably belongs to Marc. Chi strips down and puts it on. It makes a nice mini-dress on her. She is going to go show it off to the other s at the camp site, but picks up her stuff first and puts the strap of a bag over her shoulder. Eric remarks, "Now you look like a Warrior. Warior wife-beater princess."

Chi proudly returns to her campsite in her new dress.

Aug 07 2002 04:15, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22095    Link
Eric in the HRD room:"Spooning would be dangerous right now"
Lisa and Eric have been alone in the HRD room for 20 minutes. They have been making out for 15. They are impressed on how dark the room is. While they are making out they say they can't see each other but the rest of the world can.
They say the Roddy and Chiara are not so innocent. Who knows what they do in that dark corner. They pull the covers over themselves completely for 3 minutes. Lisa is on top of Eric. But then at the moment of complete frustration the pull the covers so they are in view. Eric says he has so many picutes in his mind right now. Lisa says' oh like them in Hawaii, Europe...' Eric says 'yes'. Lisa says 'that is better'.

They continue to make out. Lisa in the meantime is saying 'It's all innocent. We're fully clothed.' Eric is on top of Lisa.

Lisa says she is kind of nervous. Eric is so experienced. Eric recalls Lisa's lessons on how to satisfy an man.

Aug 07 2002 04:26, Wed ktanForum: 080702 Post: 22100    Link
After making out, Eric and Lisa engage in small talk in spooning position. Lisa got up to adjust the room temp, now back in bed. NT

Aug 07 2002 04:58, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22124  ParentRootLink
They are definitely not sleeping. (Combined posts)
I hesitate to even type the words they are saying to each other.

E: "When we 'do', I want you to kind of..

take control, get on top, I mean I know I have a job to do first - well it isn't a job.
L: that's real important to me.

Don't want to mislead...they are speaking of when they are out of the house.

An then he says, "don't get me wrong - it's not a job; it's a treat." And then he reassures her again that he will definitely do his "job" first

At one point, because Eric was getting hot, he asks Lisas to get up to turn on the AC. He says that he would do it but he can't right now.

Lisa then says, "Well, I guess I could, but I'm . . . <whispers> wet. But it would dry me off, so ok."

It was definitely hot and heavy

The two of them were obviously having a hard time restraining - each saying things like:
L: Let's move the blanket that way I'll dry off (although I really did not see "it" happen - just heavy mugging). Totally kissing full out - tongues big time. They are totally in to each other enjoying the moment and often referring to "when they can really be together".

Aug 07 2002 04:45, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22113    Link
Roddy and Josh Talk Game
Each talking about who the other HG would nominate if they get HOH. Josh talking about how G is safe if Marci or Dani gets HOH and he has a deal with me so, he's got a 50/50 chance going into next week. The paranoia sets in.

Aug 07 2002 04:46, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22114    Link
Looks like E/L are finally going to sleep. NT

Aug 07 2002 04:47, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22115    Link
Lisa says, "You know what's hot right now? >>>
No one can see us, but we can't even see each other." They have been commenting for some time that it is extremely dark in the room. They do a lot of necking, interspersed with conversation that is alternately nervous and romantic. There is a conversation about not understanding how Roddy and Chi can stand it in that room (it is so dark, it is very tempting). They have switched positions and Lisa is on the bottom now. She remarks that she fits so well in his arms. Earlier, there was an exchange to the effect that "it would be nice to spoon now "- "no, that would be dangerous" - "but it would be nice to spoon" - "well make up your mind". This is going to be a very difficult night for the both of them.

Eric says, "This is going to get too out of control", but neither makes any move to stop. Now they move into spoon position. Lisa wants to know if he wants to go to sleep. Apparently not. They discuss "are you worried about how they are portraying us on TV" They decide, no, it is all harmless, not like last year - that was hard core, in the shower and all. Eric says it would be nice to sleep nude. Lisa replies that it might help her dry off. There was discussion that it was very hot in there. Lisa suggests that he turn down the thermostat. He says he can't get up right now - besides, it is set to like 69 degrees already. Later they discover that removing the heavy comforter makes a big difference. After some time, Lisa gets up and inspects the thermostat. After some discussion, Eric tells her to set it to 60. They get back together and snuggle in a different position. Eric begins a discussion of when they finally do "you know" how he wants her to take charge. (I'm sure there are things going on in the rest of the house, and I really should go see, but I seem strangely fixated here. As luck would have it, the connection is severed and I decide that I will go look)

Aug 07 2002 04:50, Wed ktanForum: 080702 Post: 22119    Link
4:50am quadview - 1: Rod/Jo discussing alliances/noms. 2: Same as F1 with both in picture. 3: Lisa sleeping on Eric's chest 4: Different view of 3. nt

Aug 07 2002 04:50, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22120    Link
F 1 & 2 are of the cot room. >>>
They are still playing safari part-time, and Yum Yum Eatumup (Jason) is telling a story about his childhood and eating playdough. Enough of that. Back to F 3 & 4

Back in the HRD, Lisa is missing and Eric is alone. She returns and is squatting on the floor beside him, crinkling something . They are now having a conference on how to open something and are having a great deal of difficulty getting the crinkly packaging to open. It turns out to be some kind of pill. They both seem to take one with water. (I was thinking the same thing as you - damn). Lisa wonders what to do with the sheets in the morning. If they "wash them, people will think something happened when it didn't: but, if they don't wash them, that's kind of gross." Eric says "Wash them anyway, they'll think what they want anyway." They seem to be settling down to sleep now. Yes, Eric is breathing deeply and occasionally snoring.

Aug 07 2002 04:57, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22123    Link
Roddy confronting Josh
R: If you say to someone "Roddy wants this person out"...
J: I have not said that to one person - goes on to say how he tells everyone that you are totally safe and that I will not nominate you or vote you out.
R: I guess people are just stirring up sh**.
J: M asked me what I would do as HOH and I told him G was safe because of my word and Roddy is safe...you have never had anyone in as much of your corner as me
R: I think it was just a really weird day, everyone just felt weird

Aug 07 2002 05:12, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22125    Link
F 1 & 2 now has Josh and Roddy in the living room talking strategy. >>>
Josh is complaining about someone (Gerry, I think) because he is playing the game too much and is playing now as if it is end-game. He speculates that Gerry is playing to have Gerry and Josh the final 2. Roddy talks of the chance factor of who gets HoH and who goes out in what order. Apparently out of the blue, Josh says, "I hope Eric does something to f**k me, then I move Kiki up."

Roddy says he is hearing things around the house. "What, about me?" "Yes." "If you told someone that I want someone out . . . he went to them and got confirmation." "What, Gerry did?" "Yes" Josh is now guaranteeing that he didn't do anything like that. All the usual stories about how little he talks to anyone else, how little he lets out, and that he has only made deals with 2 people: Gerry and Roddy, and the only one that means anything is the one with Roddy. You've already heard everything else they have to say.

Crapping on the stupid Americas Choice question. Roddy comments that they are the only 7 people in the world who aren't allowed in that room. (the HRD). Talk about the Internet. Josh can't believe that it is really 24/7. Roddy is quite knowledgeable about the reality of the net. Talk of them all singing at the same time to force FOTH, and about other things that cause FOTH. There is a belief that if there is a discussion that is out of bounds, the feed just switches to another room. (this seems to be in connection to being told to not complain about the show or there will be a cut-out) They think that if they all go into the same room and complain, then BB will be forced to broadcast it (but they just said that they know about FOTH, are they stupid? Maybe they don't listen to themselves). More chit-chat. They discuss if they are going to stay up all night. No particular reason, just because (although Josh says he can't sleep). They decide to wait another couple of hours, then they will decide what to do.

Aug 07 2002 05:23, Wed GenieForum: 080702 Post: 22126    Link
Ro and Jo talk about who is watching them (long)
R is asking Jo if he thinks any women are watching on the internet. Jo doesn't think any woman are watching. There are probably about 40 guys watching especially at this time of night. R says that he doesn't think that women would be obsessed enough to watch BB feeds. R gives the example of few women participate in fantasy football. Women would prefer just to participate in a football pool. Jo says that high school girls probably tune in during the day to watch E and R work out. Ro replies some really beautiful woman is probably watching to see Jo. Jo thinks that that could happen if the beautiful woman was on drugs. R gets up to go to the WC.

Aug 07 2002 05:49, Wed GenieForum: 080702 Post: 22127    Link
More Jo and R convo (very long)
R and Jo are talking about working out. Ro was about 25 lbs heavier and feels better now. Jo talks about being serious about working out in FL. Ro didn't know that Jo lived in FL. Jo says he lived in Hernado, 40 miles north of Tampa. Ro says that Tampa is a dump, but the chicks are hot. Then they discuss Ebor City which is like Bourbon Street in New Orleans. Ro says that if you don't get knifed, you can get laid.

Jo continues with his work out story. He was really into it in FL and even bought a huge book with work out routines. His membership ran out and he didn't rejoin since he was moving to CA. When he moved to CA, he constantly ate bacon, pancakes and eggs. He gained a lot of weight. He did start working out again for a month or two. He decided to work out seriously again when his girlfriend seemed to want him to be in good shape. Jo comments that he has never had a problem getting hot women. He can fight and can get women.

R tells a story about working out with a friend who was really big, buff, and strong. He was amazed at how in shape this guy was. One day R was with a friend of this guy's and they decided to go for coffee. R's friend called and when he realized that R was there, he was upset since he wasn't included in their plans. After that, this guy didn't want to talk with R anymore. Jo says that it seems childish. R agrees. R can't stop feeling his abs. Jo calls him on this and R agrees since he can't believe he actually has abs.

The convo switches to a discussion about the alcohol in the house. Jo thinks that BB just went to Trader Joes or Price Club and bought cases of merlot, zinfindel, and beer. They are speculating that BB could get alcohol sponsors who would just pull up a truck outside the BB house. They could fill the hot tub with beer. Everyone in the house would be drunk. R says that they could get Ja totally drunk and he could make out with C in front of him and he wouldn't care.

R says that BB2 people were not news after the first 2 weeks. They wonder if it's the same with BB3? R says that he doesn't even care if he does the show rounds after the show. He just wants to go for a beer and steak. Jo just wants to go away somewhere with Merritt and be alone.

R changes the convo and says that he doesn't mind talking about masturbation. However, he doesn't like to talk about his ex girlfriends since they didn't sign up for BB. Jo says that he doesn't do that either unless it's one of those brief, meaningless relationships. R now talking about how girls can't get over the girl/guy thing and can't just be friends. Girls always have to play mind games. Guys don't meet girls thinking about marriages. Girls are always looking at guys to see if they are marriage material.

Aug 07 2002 06:18, Wed GenieForum: 080702 Post: 22130    Link
Even more Jo and R convo (very long)
Jo is telling R about how he (Jo) knows the value of money. He grew up poor and knows how to count his pennies. His obsession with money doesn't allow him to enjoy himself as much as he should. He's never enjoyed a vacation completely since he always worried that he won't have enough money especially if he is with someone who wants to have a good time. He knew that he was poor growing up. When he was with his mom they were poor and when he was with his dad, he really knew he was poor. It took his dad a long time to get out of debt, but he is now successful. However, it took him a long time. Jo goes over what companies his dad worked for in the medical supply field. Jo's dad took them out for dinner when Jo was 10 and Jo was calculating how much was spent in his head. He was amazed and continued to be amazed when he went home and saw his dad's full fridge. This was in contrast to going to the supermarket when he was a toddler and having food hidden under his diaper in the store. He finally knew that his dad was doing okay since the fridge was full and he had never had seen a full fridge before. His measure of success now is a full fridge.

Then Jo tells R a funny story about taking a ferry ride with his dad and stepmom when he was four. His dad told him that he was supposed to tell everyone his was three. Jo kept insisting he was four. His dad said that he could be four when he got off the ferry. The ticket man asked Jo how old he was. He answered three. The ticket guy asked when he would be four. Jo replied, "As soon as I get off this boat!"

PB and J sandwich break and strategy discussion begins. Jo telling R that D/M convinced G to go after the couples. Jo knew that he couldn't do anything about it so he worked with it. He was able to manipulate it to the best advantage and now Li will be gone. Jo thinks the vote will be 5-1 to evict Li (or Ch, it's hard to hear the whispering). R says that M might not be voting to evict Li (or Ch). Jo is repeating that he trusts R 100% no matter what anyone says even if he's heard that Jo is putting up R or R is putting up Jo. R says that it is in the best interest of some people in the house to get people to hate each other. Jo says that he can't understand why people would think that he (Jo) would want R out of the house since R is his biggest supporter. R doesn't say anything about that statement. They finally head for bed.

Aug 07 2002 08:55, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22189    Link
out of sequence Eric & Lisa: Lisa clingy & scheming
This is from about 4:30pm hosue time on Tuesday (8/6) while Joker site was down. Eric and Lisa sitting in bedroom, Lisa literally hanging all over Eric, they are pretty quiet. Eric doesn't look happy. Lisa looks like she is totally in love with him, gazing at him, etc. Eric says "we talked about this yesterday" and Lisa replies that she knows, that he wants more time alone. He says, "you can come up to me and give me a kiss whenever you want but we talked about this" and then something to mean that she is not doing what they agreed on (forget actual words). She says "oh, you want time with the boys" and he replies that no, he just doesn't want to spend every minute of the day alone with her. (!! seems that she is more in love than he is !!) He does not look happy at all and she looks heartsick. They divide and he begins to play chess in living room...about 15 mins. later the cam goes to living room and there is Eric playing chess and Lisa is with him, lying in back of him, again literally hanging all over him. He is ignoring her and playing chess. (Is she obsessed or what?)

During this time the cameras were doing 2 cams on one scene and 2 cams on another scene. Then all 4 on same scene. Dani in hammock singing and saying she can't stop singing. Cam going back and forth from Dani to FOTH. The cams were jumping around a lot, hard to follow any one conversation from start to end.

Marc did a partial pedicure outside then talking about how he didn't do a full job of it.

Later Marc & Gerry chatting, with Marc doing most of talking, speculating about the vote. Marc says that Jo has approached him and 4 others asking for an alliance "you don't vote me out and I won't vote you out", tells G that he didn't commit to anything. M saying that he listens to Jo, can't stand him and wants him out next week, but then that the best move strategically is to get Eric out this week and R out next week. G not commenting, just listening. M saying he doesn't trust Jo at all. During this convo M was folding laundry and then went into house to hand out clean folded clothes to others in LR where the chess was going on.

Sorry if this is out of sequence but it all happened within 30 mins time, may be jumbled.

Aug 07 2002 10:37, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22315  ParentRootLink
That's not the way I heard it--
He said that they talked about it yesterday and he told her she could come up to him whenever he wanted to during the day. She said she thought that he would want more time alone without her and he said it was fine if she came up to him any time.

Aug 07 2002 11:04, Wed OreoKingForum: 080702 Post: 22338    Link
D was up for a while, reading the Bible. But now I can't find her, all feeds are sleeping HGs. NT

Aug 07 2002 12:27, Wed OreoKingForum: 080702 Post: 22480    Link
Gerry is up and in the WC. Now we'll get to hear the squeaky glider for an hour. Better than snoring HGs. NT

Aug 07 2002 12:35, Wed OreoKingForum: 080702 Post: 22501    Link
G shaving his head. Josh is up and about. The "campers" are all awake. Then FOTH - NT

Aug 07 2002 12:44, Wed OreoKingForum: 080702 Post: 22515    Link
Chi: It's F@#$% freezing in here, my nipples are permanently hard! (Camera whirs) Jo: Look the camera is trying to find your nipples! NT

Aug 07 2002 12:49, Wed ImJennForum: 080702 Post: 22519    Link
30 minutes of F1
F1: G is up. THis mornign G is sporting his T-shirt "If you can read this, thanks Teacher" and putting on his robe... leaves HoH and walks to bathroom. The camera is following every move. He reaches under the sink, then enters the WC. TIME PASSES..... we're talking minutes here. While most just wonder why F1 is the bathroom with noone there & no sound.... we know G is in the WC, doing his morning duty (or doo-ty as I suspect with all this time passing)

6 minutes have pased as we now hear the flush. He does not seem to be coming out. Then FOTH with acoompanying music.

2 minutes later, we see 2 seconds of G shaving his head, then feed switches to Josh getting up, fussing about the temp in the room (too cold). Some chatter going on Chi & M chatting and giggling, but not sure what about... "The journey ends now" then FOTH (my guess is that the chatter was about the antics last night, as they were pretending they were on some kind of safari... was pretty funny from the feeds that were posted)

2 mins ater the feed returns with the same crew, Roddy now in the conversation talking about trips they have made. Discussion about camping...

Talking aobut how cold it is, Ch says well no F wonder, the fan is on!! Explanation of how they have to cool things down after M turns the temp to 95 over the night sometimes.

Feed now to R & C... asking about M safari last night
laughing... C says how camping is not for her. Lisa cuddles w. Eric.... "baby I love you but give me park avenue" cannot seem to grasp what they are talking about....

Roddy ask K, waht she will do for HoH tomorrow.... talking aobut needing to see the set up first.

More chit chat... Chi asking aobut things that R & Josh must have said about her... gossip... debating over if it was true... choruses of "roll the tape" Talking aobut dishwashers???

Roddy upset that chi has accused him of saying chi had gossiped about her... R is very upset...now laughing about it

POSTING.....

Aug 07 2002 14:18, Wed JetForum: 080702 Post: 22728  ParentRootLink
Baby I love you but give me Park Avenue
was the theme song from the old Green Acres show. That is what Chiarra started to sing.

Aug 07 2002 14:00, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22663    Link
HG up and getting cleaned up. Gerry tells D "Do what you gotta do, I did what I had to do." Roddy called to DR NT

Aug 07 2002 14:08, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22696    Link
Dani & Gerry in kitchen washing dishes. Dani says, >>>
"I get HoH, I'm gonna shake things up" G: "Do what you gotta do" D: "I will" Later, G: "No matter what . . . No matter what. I mean that" (I took that to mean that Gerry was swearing allegiance to Dani, and encouraging her to shake things up. Water was running the whole time and I may have missed some minor stuff)

Aug 07 2002 14:10, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22705    Link
Marc & Jason in the bathroom with the water running loudly. > short>>
They are discussing who to vote for this week in whispers and quick comments. Jason" I feel some pressure this week to go the other way" Marc seems concerned, but this is very hard to catch. M: ". . . to us to turn on him, cause he'll turn on us first." Jason leaves and Marc continues brushing his teeth.

Aug 07 2002 16:58, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 23005  ParentRootLink
Marci and Jason convo
Jason said he was voting Eric even tho he has pressure from others to go the other way. Then asked M if G was definate about voting Eric in a tie. M said "Yes...and if he doesn't, it will make it easier on us to turn on him (G), cuz' he turned on us first"

Aug 07 2002 14:13, Wed OreoKingForum: 080702 Post: 22714    Link
Gerry is playing a new game BB gave them - looks like a miniature firewood ring stacked full with colored (more)
dowels. D & G were speculating this is a mini version of the next food competition. Possibly the entiore house will have to play together to accumulate points. D gets called to diary room, G left staring at the game.

Aug 07 2002 14:41, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22767    Link
Marc, Roddy & Dani decide...
that its time to confront Gerry about 2 things he does that annoy them. #1, Talking down to them in a condescending way, and #2, Breaking in on conversations and talking about something that has nothing to do w the conversations.

Aug 07 2002 14:44, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22771  ParentRootLink
they were saying that those 2 things are things Amy did. NT

Aug 07 2002 15:07, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 22820    Link
Marc just repeated the exact same thing he said to D & R in Bathroom, but this time he said it to E & L....>>
Marc said that he is going to tell Gerry that he is annoying because he talks to them in a condescending way, and he butts into conversations the same way Amy did. He is running his 'speech' by E & L, and asking them if it sounds ok.

Aug 07 2002 15:19, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22844    Link
Chiara served Lisa breakfast in bed. >>>
Unfortunately, she was already up, so she sat on the bed to eat it while Roddy held court on Alaskan geography and history (plus a bunch of other stuff -like the density of otter hair). No idea if Eric got similar treatment, but if he did, he ate it elsewhere.

Aug 07 2002 15:28, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22861    Link
Now, Roddy, Jason, Marc and Dani discuss the use of proper nouns as generic nouns, and regional usage's: e.g.., >>>
Xerox means copy, Coke in the south just means a soda, people in the West say pop instead of soda. Roddy offers that the word Coke is the most recognizable word in the world - even more than Jesus. Eric is sprawled over the bed eating his breakfast in bed now. He does not seem to be participating in the conversation. Dani saying that cigarette ads for menthol cigarettes are all black actors. Marc would love to get a cigarette ad, and Jason thinks he has seen white people in Neport ads. No game talk or personal attacks. (Boring but refreshing)

Aug 07 2002 15:56, Wed OreoKingForum: 080702 Post: 22902    Link
Looks like a couple of bocci ball shuffle-board courts set up in the back yard. E was practicing>>>
rolling balls down these blue "Slip n Slide" aisles with drop off trays at the ends.

Aug 07 2002 15:57, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22903    Link
Jason is explaining the background to the romantic dinner last night. >>> Short
He says they went to BB for support and extra provisions, and that BB told them that the yard would not be available Wed. night, so it had to be done on Tues. He gives full credit to Josh and Chi for the idea, and repeats it several times, because Lisa seems to want to give credit to Jason and others. Lisa comments on the coincidence that she and Eric were planning the same thing.

Aug 07 2002 16:16, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 22931    Link
Chiara is on the Quad F2 in the kitchen. She has a hammer and is using what looks like a screwdriver to pound on something in a bowl. >>>
Unfortunately, I don't get a unique F 2 in individual feeds, so I couldn't check up close to see what that was about. The Quad feed had a different pic when I got back, and we are going in and out of FOTFH a lot at the moment. (mostly in).

Out of FOTFH and Chi is again on F 1 & 2 in the kitchen. The bowl is still there and she is apparently making several glasses of iced tea. She is now back with the hammer and screwdriver. It seems she is breaking up ice from the bowl. (Hope she washed the screwdriver first, she is even leaving the hammer in the bowl between sessions)

Aug 07 2002 16:32, Wed OreoKingForum: 080702 Post: 22959  ParentRootLink
Yes, it is ice she is breaking up. NT
NT

Aug 07 2002 17:27, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 23044    Link
G playing a game by himself feeds 1 & 2...
For quite a while feed 1 & 2 was on Gerry playing a game with an upright clear plastic cylinder. There were colored rods that he was placing inside of it, stacking them on top of each other. Probably practice for an upcoming game (?HOH). Quiet in the house.

Aug 07 2002 17:33, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 23062    Link
Ja & R doing dishes & making tea & chatting small talk
R says "I am going to do all in my power to avoid being with him today." Don't know who he means, nothing else said. Small talk about R saying what a great show The Simpsons is, "a lot of great stuff comes out on the show, it is more about Homer than Bart". R expresses surprise that Ja doesn't watch the show. Now discussing eating carbs, R wants to decrease carbs and doesn't like it when his mother cooks pasta more than he wants to eat....

Aug 07 2002 17:57, Wed raeForum: 080702 Post: 23114    Link
dani talking about queen's lead singer dying of aids NT

Aug 07 2002 18:00, Wed StarkForum: 080702 Post: 23125    Link
Short, Eric/Lisa's retribution plan
Eric wants him and lisa, whoever stays to go up to Gerry if they win HOH and ask him who who you should put up, then after he says whatever hes going to say, then they will say you know what I’m goin to put you up and no matter who else I put, you are going to go.

(long silence, I’ll post this)

Aug 07 2002 18:25, Wed StarkForum: 080702 Post: 23190    Link
Movies and Exlax commericals // Sit or Stand? // C on telling Gerry she doesn't want him to talk anymore except when she says to (Long)
D: you lost me at hello

D(haha)

E: (his voice, but can’t make out reply)


(feed is of m in showere, audio somewhere else)

L; that’s it

M: if we could see one movie tonight, what would we see

D: I’d see road to perdition, tom hanks

L you have been on that movie since we came

D: yeah and it has (named another actor)

M: Lisa

L: its hard to say, I wouldn’t want to see any movies that are out now without seeing a
priview, so it would be nice to just be surprised

(Reccuring request, maybe a future AC question)

M: ok I’m done, I did a mini (someone) concert in here

E: you might want to ask, they might have a photo of you two on the hammock that you
can frame up

M: no no no no

L: he was like this (must be showing a motion, but she ain’t on camera)

D: was he

L: yep

E: I’m thinking I may jump in there and I have to shave, well I’ll do that later (yawns)
want to go to hot tub

L: right now

M: they fixed it

E: yeah they fixed it

(missed some)

L; are we missing some

E: might be hammock time

L; are we playing (chess)

D: lord no, I ain’t playing with you girl

L: m will be getting a ad for exlax

D: oh yeah

L: yeah he was in there for so long and 4 or 5 flushes

D: were you, was it real it took that long

M: oh no, I was oooooohhhh

D: do you sit or stand

M: I sit

L: always

M: no when I just pee I stand

E: thank you

D: my husband can’t stand to sit down

L: I had a friend that always sit regardless

D: why

L: he don’t like to stand there holding himself with others there

D: that’s a good point

L: and you know they are looking

L: and women..

D: yeah we just talk right though the stalls

D: oh and on the couch

L: what, we just went from bathroom stalls to couches

D: oh I was talkigna bout chiara and when we are on the couch and gerrry was saying we
could talk about this or that and she said or we could justnot talk at all

L: he was sitting there when the conversation started

D: well it was aobu tht person that was absolutely beautiful or very ugly

L:I couldn’t believ that amy was a ugly child, she was so beautiful, that I have a hard
time believing that

D: I could see it

L: really, not me

D; and Marcellas he was a golden child

D: how are you no, are you hurting or still healed

L I was find till last night but I had those pants that had a seam

D: and it irritated it

L: no it picked off the scab

M: …for weeks

D: did you hurt yourserl

M but I couldn’t get that soapy sttuf

D: and you get the scaper to

M: and they are bam bam bam and they do it

M: I went to a few places in Chicago to have it done

(c walks in)

D: you were like just don’t talk at all

C: yeah I told him just don’t talk at all, if I want you to talk I’ll look at you, If I don’t look at you shut the hell up, but the peanut gallery kept on talking

D: yeah

(conversation changed again, so posting)

(as I was formatting the spacing, they talk about gerry is done announcing events as the next game will be the food challenge with whoever wins HOH tomorrow night. Marcellas says he never wants to talk to that man (gerry) again.)

Aug 07 2002 18:34, Wed StarkForum: 080702 Post: 23216    Link
All outside practicing a game where they roll crochet-sized balls down a long stretch to stop as near as possible to a bumper at end NT

Aug 07 2002 18:37, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23226    Link
HG outside practicing rolling hard 6 inch balls down long blue bowling alley. looks like a cross between bowling and croquet NT

Aug 07 2002 18:42, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23242    Link
HG want to wake R up NT

Aug 07 2002 18:48, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23260    Link
Ja not practicing game. Just watching. Jo and R saying the game would be played better with a drink in your hand NT

Aug 07 2002 18:51, Wed StarkForum: 080702 Post: 23270    Link
Game chatter...Interweaved with runnign talk of josh fighting not to wake roddy (Very long)
M; your in the pit of despair and your never getting out

L: that was so good

D: yeah that was so good I might do it that way

M: ouwwww

L: what

M: everytime you roll to hard I get hurt


L: oh

M: nice nice

(standing on both sides rolling it back and forth to practice)

M: nice nice

BB: D please go to the DR

M: that would be a winner ki

(chia put it right at line, lisa put it to far and fell into trough at end)

Jo: that’s the risk you run

L: uh (fell in trough, once and a seoncd in it)

M: nice

C: that’s a winner

E: that’s a good defensive ball there

E: oops

E: yeah that’s great (he was way short)

M: that would be to much Vanestic

E: that’s a good one

(chiara very good at this, lisa not bad)

E: ouch

L: to fast

E; almost broke your finger

L: yeah that did almost broke my finger

E: your at both extremes, uh uh, there you go

M: uh uh

E: what if they do once of these can you do one of these

M: and go careening in the house

E: why does it have to be careen


E: there it is…no (trough for L)
E: there it is…no (2nd in trough in a row for L)

C: you don’t need that much str


Someone: just throw them
E: there you go, thought you had it, no, maybe

C: nice that’s a winner

M: that’s to hard (his own roll)

M: that’s to hard to

M: I love that sound, that’s the ski ball sound

C: yeah y eah

E: nice….kinda


L: oh ok that works
E: look at marcellas


Jo: that style that flair

E: he had a lot of flair at Fridays

L: they just didn’t appreciate it

E: jesus

Jo: that will work gmoney

E: what will they do with these numbers

Jo: I don’t know, this feels more like a food competition

E: not he food competition is the logs

L: yeah this must be HOH, I think you we will each have a key or a ball and we will
have to be on the line not over it but on it

E: go wake up roddy

Jo: no no no

E: it might be my last day with him wake him up

Jo: sleep has been so sparingly for him

M: kiki have you forgotton what the point of the game is

E: wow call her out why don’t you

C: thank you

Jo: if anything stay up all night with him, we were 15 min from a cup of coffe to stay up
all night

M: nice

Jo: I like it

M: slow slow slow

M: good finesse girl

Jo: I don’t think you can get very fancy in this game

E: no you can’t

Jo: marcellas was as fancy as you can be using the bumpers, that is as fancy as you can
get

E: I don’t think we can click the balls like this they may get dents

L: no I think that’s part of it, you can knock other peoples balls off (possible but there are
two tracks running parallel, more likely to be a head to head comp)

Jo: I still want to apologize (no audio of who hes talking to)

E: I have to take a step back or so

Jo: just everything you know, this week

M: pancakes

Jo: they know what they are doing you know what I mean, this is a f***ing…(trails off)
I’m so looking forward to tomorrow nights dinner, I’m just (trails off again) yeah yeah
me too, we all got ot

M: its so hot out there

Jo: fried chicken is really starteing to sound incredible

Jo: two buckets, Danielle won’t eat any

E: the key to this is have a drink in your hand while you do this

Jo: really that’s important part of any of these types

E: yeah any game that it doesn’t mess you up, you should have one

E: I’m a big fan of lawn darts

Jo: they are illegal

E: yeah,

JO; yep

E: why, one kid get one in a toe

Jo: no one kid got one in a eye, it might be a urban legend but they say that one kid got
one right in the eye and they are heavy they would go right through the head

Jo: I tried to get them not to wak you up

R: I was so pissed, I’ve got one basic rule

Jo; I know I know, It comes so sparingly to you, just hang out with him all night

Jo: overwhelming lack of consideration for some things in this house

E: what times rehearsal

Someone: getting near ab time

E: I know

Aug 07 2002 18:52, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23271    Link
Jo and Ja talking being woke up and Jo telling how hot the room was (like 8,000 degrees) He said he was panting like a Siberian Husky NT

Aug 07 2002 18:55, Wed StarkForum: 080702 Post: 23280    Link
Short, Clever wakeup, and food challenge info
Jason says he likes when they play the jokes on them soemtimes, like this morning, they announced 1 hour till voting and less than 10 seconds later said 45 min, then 20 seconds later announced 5 min to voting to mess with them, he thought it was funny

Lisa is in practicing the food challenge gaem, it looks like small logs they put in a round container that shes then turns on end and starts pulling them out (can't really see as it wasn't on long, but looks kinda like a round jenga thing) which kinda makes sense as shes says its kinda cheating but they should stack all the good stuff near the top

Aug 07 2002 20:41, Wed ktanForum: 080702 Post: 23627  ParentRootLink
Food challenge game is called ballast, BTW. Like batik, it is from the French company Gigamic. NT

Aug 07 2002 19:16, Wed GermantownrunnerForum: 080702 Post: 23330    Link
Lisa & Marcellas in Kitchen Discussing Pancakes Vs. Waffles
Marcellas says he's a pancake guy. Lisa says she likes waffles with butter stuck in the "little squares" that "squirts out" when you bite into it. Gerry is present, too. 7:22 p.m. EDT.

Aug 07 2002 19:18, Wed GermantownrunnerForum: 080702 Post: 23336    Link
HGs Discuss Gerry's <LACK OF> Hygiene
Kiki, Danielle and Marcellas gossip about Gerry's lack of hygiene when handling food. They are very critical. Marcellas says he touched his pancacke spatula and he, Marcellas, promptly got another one out. 7:24 p.m. EDT.

Aug 07 2002 19:19, Wed GermantownrunnerForum: 080702 Post: 23342    Link
Marcellas as "Ball Boy"
Eric and Roddy continue practicing the HOH challenge (rolling balls toward a trough). Marcellas yells if they would like him to be their "Ball Boy." They shout: "Yes!" Why is Eric practicing, anyway? He's a GONNER! Buh bye, beautiful one. One down...3 to go!

Aug 07 2002 19:48, Wed StarkForum: 080702 Post: 23427    Link
Ja/E/M compete at the new game...and the winner is .... (very long)
M/Ja/E palyign a game

Ja; so both of you can score

E: no whoever is closet at end gets a score, if your color is both closet you get 2

Ja; oh you had a chance for 2


E: yeah

Ja; that was a advantage going last

E: ok 3-1-0 you have nothing marcellas

M: Jason has nothing

E: yeah he has roddy’s point

M: I’ll try off this side

E: try same thing everytime and it will do better

E: possible 2 points as it stands (his are closets, with m and Ja having one ball left each



(timed out)

Ja; you won that game

E: 1-1-3, (m won it)

E: green goes first

M: I’m having a good time

E: I’m having a excellent time

(Jason just barely goes over)

(E comes just short of M)

(m goes but comes well short of all)

(ja throws and knocks marcellas, but doesn’t knock him in, just puts him right up on edge


M: you can’t knock that out with out hitting that
E: yep you picked another point 3-2-1


Ja; you have 2 points now

M: yeah sh**, 2 of my own not like your one

M: not on the back of someone else

M: too strong, bye bye, (to eric)

M: I’m goin this way, (foot off end)

E: nice this kids good man

E: jay looking for technique new to tour from mobile ablabame,

Ja; to much

E: hes been lifting a lot we think that might be part of his came

E: (puts one scloser than M)


M: don’t hurt him knee

E; don’t think its going to get there

(off camera a lot of ewwws, eewwws)

E: 4 points, shooting for the victory (its now 4-2-1)

E: red first now

(Jason rolls first this set and goes way to far again)

E: short, that’s alright its in play

M: M is in prime position will he joke, oh too much


E: that was awful

M: M chokes

Ja: (rolls his second over again) trying some new stuff

E: (too far, hes way off, M should win it)

M: (wins it)

Jo: winner winner

R: greens a winner

Jo: speech speech

R: he now has a chance to win to

(score is 4-3-1)


M: (rolsl first, 2-3 feed off end)

Jo: good start they have to come to you now, you know what I mean, they have to come
to you and they aint’ goin to make it now you have a protector (landed short of him)

Ja: (knocks it hard and rolls eric right up to edge, a sure winner if not knocked off)

E: that one point wins me the game you might want to take care of it

M: yeah I know, he went to hard and jumped it off track

R: now its just off board

M: cue that now

E: only way this continues

M: nice jay

E: nice toss

E; now we are at 4

M: you didn’t have 4

M: you had 3 I had 3 we are tied


E: oh you con job
Ja; he had 4 M


(ja/e right, score is 4-4-1)

Jo; might be a tad to much boys and girls

E: dammit

M (m is up next)

Jo; little to weak nice job nancy, (well short but in lead)

Jo: little to much Christian coalition why are you using devil balls

E: (rolls over edge, looks like M will win)

E: jay hit his ball so I don’t have to dance around like a queen

M: score is 1-3-4 (M just won but doesn’t know it since he argued score was wrong)

R; has to be a huge version of this, everyone has to do it and fast

Ja; 5 min and the whole thing has to be done

R: no only has to be 3 min

E: (just knocked m very close, but moves himself closer)

Ja: I have to get m (misses)

M: how do I win

E: you have to hit my ball

Jo: you have your own fate, you are good with balls in your hand, nope you didn’t want it

Ja: I don’t think he wanted it

Ja: joshie jump in,

Jo; yeah a little jewish is needed in this

E: I won


Aug 07 2002 20:22, Wed StarkForum: 080702 Post: 23560    Link
Long Foth, HOH rehearsal time NT

Aug 07 2002 21:50, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23718    Link
Jo & D talk strategy
Jo: amy told me what G would do

D: just trying to survive week to week

Jo: I get off on everything

D; don't take nothing for granted

Jo: I'm not gonna be put up

D: If it's meant to be it's meant to be, your time will come. Me I'm going back to work

feed froze, posting

Aug 07 2002 21:53, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 23724    Link
Josh and Dani have been at the dinning room table for a long time. >> brief
Dani is playing the new game, and Josh is talking, and talking. Josh says nice things about Lisa and bad against Gerry, but comes back to saying that Gerry kept his word about the current deal to not nominate him. Josh is worried about the liars in the house - who are they? Now back to wondering about Lisa. " I just don't know her. I tried, I really tried" Dani sort of defends Lisa in saying that she was the first HoH, and that is really hard. Josh agrees, but says that she had a lot of support, and that was a month ago - she can't live on that forever. (I'm only catching a small part of this while on commercial, but I can't see what angle he is working - but I assure you that he is working some angle)

Aug 07 2002 22:07, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 23775    Link
The feeds alternate between Josh & Dani in the Dinning room, and Roddy & Marc in the yard.
According to the Quad feed, it is all one or all the other. Now it is all Josh and Chi in the kitchen. Josh leaves and Chi sits at the table. There is nothing being said. Josh returns and complains about how little exercise he has done all week. Chi says "so you voted to keep Lisa here, which is understandable" Josh snorts and they both laugh. They talk about HoH and how much they both want it, but Chi says that she's won twice (a competition), so she's screwed. I want to know who the rat is in this house. There's definitely a rat." Chi doesn't rise to the bait, and says that Josh is the rat.

Finally, Chi takes the bait "Do you think there's a rat in this house, why?" "Because someone is saying things that didn't happen." Josh makes a distinction between rat and liar and decides that the rat is a liar. Generally dis'ing the HG's for not being too bright and says some of it is coming from Gerry. He thinks he is the smartest person in the house. He expands on that. Then he says, "you and Roddy are the last 2 people in the house who have anything to worry about from me." Gerry comes in from the yard and the conversation stifles,not that it was too scintillating before.

Aug 07 2002 22:18, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23828    Link
Chi , Ja and R small talk at dining room table, laughing about flatulance
R: I will say this, everyword I've ever said in the house you would be proud to hear. I think you are nine F* lady

( laughed so hard I can't go on)

Aug 07 2002 22:32, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 23867    Link
HGs practicing for ball-rolling comp outside NT

Aug 07 2002 22:35, Wed supercnForum: 080702 Post: 23881  ParentRootLink
Now D leading ab class, everyone participating except E&L NT

Aug 07 2002 22:43, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23903    Link
HG working out in back yard... NT

Aug 07 2002 22:57, Wed SharkyForum: 080702 Post: 23948    Link
G in kitchen peeling garlic - hacking right into the food! NT

Aug 07 2002 22:58, Wed SharkyForum: 080702 Post: 23950  ParentRootLink
Li just told E about G hacking in the food and E said "that's fine, I won't eat it" NT

Aug 07 2002 23:01, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23963    Link
HG in kitchen, making snacks, G keeps clearing his throat over the food he's preparing NT

Aug 07 2002 23:08, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23978    Link
M & D playing more ball. M says I've been doing a lot of things in this house that I don't normally do NT

Aug 07 2002 23:13, Wed GermantownrunnerForum: 080702 Post: 23983    Link
Marcellas, Danielle and Lisa Bitch and Moan About Gerry's Cooking and Lack of Hygiene... NT

Aug 07 2002 23:20, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 23990    Link
D is saying she has worries about when she leaves the house
She says she has bills to pay, a child in high school, gotta worry about college. She doesn't expect to make much more money in the future. She says the day she walks out of the house will be devastating.

Aug 07 2002 23:24, Wed im_so_addictedForum: 080702 Post: 24002  ParentRootLink
she is really emphasizing to M & L how important it is for her to win the $$. She will be "white knuckling it" at the door out. She can't lose this! NT

Aug 07 2002 23:27, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 24012  ParentRootLink
Dani's lamenting.... *DELETED*
Post deleted by Liann

Aug 07 2002 23:34, Wed AnonymousForum: 080702 Post: 24028  ParentRootLink
boob job? are you sure you have the right person??? NT

Aug 07 2002 23:21, Wed GermantownrunnerForum: 080702 Post: 23995    Link
Danielle Opens Up About The Importance of Winning BB3 (long)
Danielle, Marcellas and Lisa talk in bedroom. Danielle says that if she doesn't win BB3, she will feel like a failure in front of her family's eyes. "The day I walk out of this house. It's going to be devastating. Devastating. I'm just sharin' that with y'all." Marcellas and Lisa seems shocked. Danielle says <winning> is "huge." Lisa asks her if just being on TV and going a long way isn't enough?

D asks: How many people in other shows have made $$ afterward? Answer? None, D says. Lisa says she's here just for the experience.

Marcellas says he's not looking to make money.

"When I walk out of that door," Danielle says, "...it's going to be a jagged, little pill."

Aug 07 2002 23:26, Wed PhantomForum: 080702 Post: 24007    Link
Marc says the novelty has worn off of being in the game. He is in the HRD talking with Lisa and Dani.
Dani says that if she loses, she would feel like she had let her family down. Lisa says they would be proud of her regardless, but Dani plays the poor woman with responsibilities card with great intensity. She has to get a job, she has mouths to feed, she can't do the Vagas thing. Dani sees no other benefits coming out of the exposure, it is the money or nothing. "How many reality shows are there, and how many of those people are famous." Long pause for the facts to sink in. "None" "I'm telling it like it is. When I walk out that door, I'll be devastated." She also admits that "this is the longest and best vacation I've ever had." Lisa asked if the pay she receives is a help at all. She says that the family took out a loan to cover her salary in order to go on the show.

Aug 07 2002 23:32, Wed JokeretteForum: 080702 Post: 24023    Link
Possible melt down
Eric talking about Gerry making food and making 'hocker' noises. He talks to Marcellas, who says he's a punk for not telling Gerry he can't cook. Eric rants on, says he told Gerry to wash his hands, and Gerry said he did. Lisa adds that Gerry ate watermelon from a bowl and she wouldn't touch it. Eric goes on and says he doesn't get grossed out but is now.

Kiki says the food smells good. Eric and Lisa aren't so sure. Even Jason says "He stinks" Dani says 'his drawers are in kitchen sink" and Marc jumps up. Kiki says the towels were smelling as.. I missed it.. and Marc says you need to do something, he's going to make this house SICK.

Aug 07 2002 23:32, Wed GermantownrunnerForum: 080702 Post: 24025    Link
More Gerry Bashing
Roddy, Ki-whore-a, Lisa, Marcellas in HRD, completely BASHING Gerry about his cooking and HYGIENE. They say it's so disgusting. Marcellas says the HGs need to do something. He (Gerry) is going to make folks sick. They need to have another intervention, Marcellas says. Roddy says Gerry smells sour.

Roddy threatens to tell him outright.

Eric walks in room now and chimes in about Gerry and wanting to "put him up for nomination" next week if he (Eric) gets HOH.

Aug 07 2002 23:35, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 24030    Link
L E M talking, E says if he's stays and get HOH then he gets G NT

Aug 07 2002 23:36, Wed LolaForum: 080702 Post: 24035    Link
L says she's doesn't want to waste her time talking about G NT

Aug 07 2002 23:41, Wed JokeretteForum: 080702 Post: 24043    Link
Total Gerry ranking
Dani is again talking about the smell. "He's laying all over [censored] soaking wet."

Kiki comes in, says Jason told Gerry the food smelled good. Marc is still angry. Eric says all our dr and this talk… Kiki breaks in and says she didn't want to talk to DR about Gerry and his man tits. (Now they're cracking up.) Eric remarks on Gerry's pillowcase covered in phlem… Marc busts out and says "I know you can't say what they'll intervene about"

Lisa says they want them to take care of it. Others say he will be up next week. Marc says they're supposed to care for our health and welfare.

Marc feels sorry for Gerry and his family, and hopes they don't go to cast party. Kiki says unless they don't show any of this. Eric says this is to their benefit…the 13 million want to see what nasty [censored] he's going to do next.

Kiki talks about the clothes, and Eric says he wears the same thing all the time. They hear an odd noise. It's someone in the bathroom. Marc is deathly quiet. Getting more angry. He finally says "were you raised by wolves!"

Lisa says he's a slob in the kitchen and she was cleaning after him… Marc says he'd rather clean after him as he doesn't want Ger to clean… and again makes the "hocker" noises. They're all horrified. Marc says he's a pig, and talks about the chips. And how Gerry 'goes for broke' when he eats, has things in his teeth… and then tells Marc every single day "I'm so glad I saved you". "I go in the DR and say I could have beat Lori, and I would rather have left anyway then hear this every day."

Aug 07 2002 23:48, Wed JokeretteForum: 080702 Post: 24051    Link
Eric tells Gerry he's unpopular...
Now convo is on to Josh, and Eric says he'll tell Josh "If you save Gerry you're gone". Then Eric says if people told him he had to do things to stay, he would. And instantly they're back on Gerry.

Kiki says he threw his shirt on something, he nibbled on something, and Marc brings up the spatula thing. Then Marc says he's eating pancakes fast as possible, and his plate was near Gerry… Gerry was shirtless and (blew his nose in it). Kiki visibly is sickened.

Dani walks in. She too discussing Gerry and his coughing. Marc is freaked about Gerry's underwear in the sink. Marc says Gerry is delusional, that people leave the room when he enters. Lisa says he knows. Eric says when he went to see Gerry in the HoH, he asked why he put them up, didn't give them a reason.

Gerry said it's a chess move. They talked, Eric told him what people think of him, he can't converse with people. Gerry said he sensed it. (Eric is talking right through his OWN damn food all through this! BAH)

Aug 07 2002 23:55, Wed JokeretteForum: 080702 Post: 24074    Link
Still ranking on Gerry... his way of drawing attention to himself...
Marc says he's about ready to hit the panic button (others still talking about Gerry and driving him nuts.)

Marc finally says this is like crazy mob mentality when we turn on someone… others say "It's OVER Marcellas!"

Kiki says that Gerry can't even stay on one subject, and Marc says once you talk to him for a while he talks AT you. He says he wouldn't play the game Jenga with him, as Gerry editorialized about it. Marc told him that he needed not to condescend to the others, always play teacher.

Dani told him he's lost his knack for telling stories, and Eric says Gerry is trying to be Roddy. Kiki says he follows up everything with Shakespeare. Eric says he hates when people try to always get attention, and talks of a guy in college that they all ignored unless he pulled out a credit card. He says Gerry is desperate for attention, and will start acting like a gorilla next (to draw attention.)

And the feed moves to outside.


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