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Aug 09 2002 00:10, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 26553				Link
HG get beer and pizza. It's party time NT

Aug 09 2002 00:17, Fri	KimM	Forum: 080902 Post: 26578				Link
The HGs got pizza, sushi, juice and beer. Everyone is pigging out. NT

Aug 09 2002 00:27, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 26608				Link
Pigging out
they are all mowing down on some grub and im waiting for someone to entertain me. oh well. finally someone says F PB and J. i think it was josh. feed cuts out ed note. for this week and this week only we are under legal obligation to call Chiara "ChiHOHra." agreed?

Aug 09 2002 00:30, Fri	KimM	Forum: 080902 Post: 26613				Link
Dani piles on the wasbi and has a "nasal moment" which involves screaming "whooo!" and stomping. Everyone is still shoveling down the food. NT

Aug 09 2002 00:56, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 26700				Link
HG are talking all at once. Hard to transcribe because the conversation is all over the place
They're trying to figure out is next HOH is next Wednesday. (timed-out ugh) can't get my feed back

Aug 09 2002 00:59, Fri	KimM	Forum: 080902 Post: 26713				Link
The HGs have now moved on to ice cream. Lots of chit-chat. Everyone seems happy. NT

Aug 09 2002 01:04, Fri	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 080902 Post: 26737				Link
Josh's calls BB Nutritionist: 'That skank ho, Ethopian b*tch.' NT

Aug 09 2002 01:07, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 26753				Link
HG small talk
All talking about how much they've eaten. L if I were pregnant how many months do you think I'd be. 2 mon, 4 mon R saying "I love mint chocolate chip" chi talking about someone she knew who cr*ped all over them self. Didn't have any class. J says all this is going in the morning Chi says eat up. I'm going to have a bladder infection for years after theis Ja says we ate 28 slices of pizza D said something about a nutritionist G says what nutritionist M is back G is hacking (again) some one is saying more calories I haven't eaten in a week They're all happy for more calories, laughing chi is wishing for diet Sprite G just said something about 6 Flags Magic Mountain J is talking about his friends leaving a six pack of soda in the car and it blew up G is talking about trying to seek food into Magic Mountain in a diaper bag and his little daughter told on them going through the gate "We got food in the diaper bag"

Aug 09 2002 01:17, Fri	Lawyerman	Forum: 080902 Post: 26793				Link
Josh asks Chiara if he can go into the HoH to read her mom's letter. All four feeds follow him into the room as he reads. NT

Aug 09 2002 01:18, Fri	KimM	Forum: 080902 Post: 26796				Link
Josh reading Chiara's letter from her Mom in the HOH
JOsh: "Oh my god! Your f*cking poor cousin! What a b*tch!" (Chiara was telling them earlier that her mom "sh*t all over" her cousin in the letter...made some comment about her getting plastic surgery.) He finishes reading.... Jo: What a cutie you mom is...when she's not being a bitch. Meanwhile, some of the HGs are *still* eating.

Aug 09 2002 01:37, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26841				Link
Chiara and Lisa in HRD... Chiara asked Roddy to leave them alone for a minute.
Lisa feels guilty, as if she's already betrayed Eric. Chiara tells Lisa she was told she couldn't trust her. Lisa swears that isn't true, that she has not uttered one word of distrust towards Chiara, etc.

Aug 09 2002 01:47, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26854				Link
Lisa says:
"Big brother, you are about to see the original Lisa you interviewed...and said hi to me in the bar that night..." I think she means that she's going to start kicking ass (Josh's) and playing the game.

Aug 09 2002 01:49, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26857				Link
Chiara tells Lisa that she told Dani she was voting for Eric >>>
But she says Dani doesn't know who told her Lisa hated her (Josh).

Aug 09 2002 01:52, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26862				Link
Lisa's thoughts on Josh
Lisa doesn't understand why Josh is out to get her so bad, that he had to tell lies to Chiara and campaign against her with Roddy. She assumes that Josh is the voice behind Gerry and that's why he nominated her and Eric. She thinks Gerry would have nominated Josh if he hadn't talked to Gerry.

Aug 09 2002 01:53, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 26865				Link
Chia in HOH questioning Lisa about what Josh said, in regard to Lisa hating Chia. Lisa denies the fact, and clarifys what, if anything Josh might have heard.
while she and Eric chatted in bed one night. Chia says she believes Lisa, and knew that if she looked her in the eye when asking the question, she would know if she is hearing the truth or not. They are still chatting. Lisa just said she is happy that Chia did not tell her before Eric left, because Eric would of had a fit, if he had heard the information. Lisa said that BB is about to see the Lisa they originally interviewed. (posting lost feed)

Aug 09 2002 01:55, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26869				Link
Dani comes in..
Dani walks into HRD where Chi and Lisa are talking. Chi tells Dani what they are talking about (vaguely, making Dani guess) Dani asked who started it... Chi tells her Josh. C: Josh said to Eric the next day "I got you your fourth vote" (meaning Chiara) C: Josh swore on everything that what he said was true.

Aug 09 2002 02:03, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26879				Link
Chiara is definitely nominating Josh, but I haven't been able to figure out who she's putting up against him...>
She keeps talking about how she's going to say something at the nomination ceremony about Josh lying to everyone. She's asked Lisa to not say anything to him until after the nominations. Lisa is dying to chew him out, but has promised to wait. Chiara also asks them both not to talk about this conversation to anyone else until after nominations.

Aug 09 2002 02:05, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 26884				Link
In HOH Chia Lisa and Dani, difficult to make out what mumble mouth Dani is saying but between the three girls it sounds like Josh's .......
balls are going on the chopping block. Lisa can't wait till after nominations to let him know what she thinks!

Aug 09 2002 02:08, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26887				Link
Girl talk about Lisa and Eric
Chiara asks how far Lisa went with Eric L: We kissed.. we kissed and petted.... Lisa says he was "such a gentleman", always made sure she was covered, etc. Conversation moved to Will and Shannon's antics in the house... something about the shower... and how they made no effort to hide what they were doing, etc. Also talking about how Shannon had a boyfriend. Lisa says she told Eric that if she leaves, she's not looking for a quickie, that she will wait for him and expects him to wait for her. Eric said "you see this (holds up hand), this is all I need for the next 2 months"

Aug 09 2002 02:10, Fri	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 080902 Post: 26890				Link
Chiara to the girls:'It's going to be bad'
Because she has decided to nominate Josh. She isn't going to give him a hint that he is going to be nomianted. Dani says Josh thinks he has an in with Chiara because Roddy is close to him. Chiara thinks Josh is going to be mental throughout the week he is nominated. He may push the panic button. Lisa is going on and on about how Will and Shannon were having sex all throughout the house.(ed. note which is wrong. They never even kissed on camera in the house.) The girls say that Shanonn had a 'slow' boyfriend out of the house. They say Will was a better choice, but they can't believe they had sex throughout the house. Lisa says that she only kissed Eric.

Aug 09 2002 02:12, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 26894				Link
HOH light conversation, Lisa anticipating a wardrobe competition, because of questions asked in DR....
they have been asked if they are tired of seeing any particulars HG's clothing. Chia unpacking clothes. Gerry enters HOH. leaves after a very brief chat.

Aug 09 2002 02:17, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 26907				Link
Josh is angry about not moving to the HRD. He just said Jason has been in there 3 weeks and that he's a sellout anyway NT

Aug 09 2002 02:17, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26908				Link
More HRD stuff, and Josh mad at Jason
Gerry comes into HRD and says he's going to bed soon. Talks about food competition. Chiara is packing up her belongings to move to HOH room. Dani asks how's Roddy Chi says he looked like he was ready to cry when Eric got evicted. Says he didn't prepare himself for Eric's departure, the same way Chiara wasn't ready for Tonya to go. All 4 feeds are on HRD but the girls hear yelling outside, not sure what's going on. Marcellas comes in, "Are you moving?" Chiara: "Yes but I will be back Marcellas" Camera follows Lisa and Chiara through Living room: Josh is mad because Jason "called a bed in there" (meaning HRD I think) and Josh thinks he's entitled to it because Jason has been in there for "3 fuckin weeks" LIsa and Chiara in HOH now trying to control their urge to yell at Josh "Wait till tomorrow" chi says...deep breaths, etc

Aug 09 2002 02:21, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 26914				Link
R asks C " Did you tell her?" C says "Yes" Mentions she wants to talk to Jason privately NT

Aug 09 2002 02:24, Fri	FujiApple	Forum: 080902 Post: 26918				Link
Dani/Jason/Marc outside. Dani says Chiara told her she voted to keep Lisa, and she knows she's lying. NT

Aug 09 2002 02:26, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 26926				Link
Dani, Marc, and Jason outside playing cards. Dani says Chia lied, and told her that she voted to keep Lisa in. She is now telling them Chia's plan
to put up Josh and Gerry.

Aug 09 2002 02:29, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 26931				Link
C apologizing again to L for avoiding her all week. Says she is so glad she got the chance to explain.
Says she feels bad having to prove her loyalty for no reason. Says L is the one she hangs out with after all. Keeps swearing her loyalty

Aug 09 2002 02:35, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 26962				Link
Jason and Marcellas playing cards
Marcellas wants to get rid of Gerry after Josh. Jason says they need to Gerry for his vote for a few more weeks. Both agree they want Gerry gone but they'll have to deal with him. Jason asks Marcellas why he likes carnivals. Marcellas says he is a very visual person. Loves Americana. That's why he likes bowling alley. Hates amusement parks, but loves carnivals. Jason says he likes fairs, but not to the extent Marcellas does.

Aug 09 2002 02:38, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 26967				Link
Some HG's changing clothes and heading out for hot tub time. NT

Aug 09 2002 02:45, Fri	justareader	Forum: 080902 Post: 26981				Link
quad cam review
f1 switches betwn Mar on side and Ro in HT f2 Ma and Li on sideof ht with others inside f3 HOH room jason talking to chi f4 full shot of ja i hve dial up so i get poor feeds and slow boards sorry

Aug 09 2002 02:51, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 26990				Link
Paid feeds just back up, caught mid conversation Chia and Jason on HOH, Chia really grilling Jason about why....
he voted for Lisa to stay AND why he feels this and that.... Chia asks directly, if he has a deal with Marc. Jason looks uncomfortable, but llat out said "no' he has no deal.

Aug 09 2002 02:55, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 26996				Link
F3 Chiara and Jason alone HOH having the "vote" chat
Jason says he felt pressured by Chiara The worst thing about Eric was selling out Josh,calls it a desperate thing and that it scared him. Being the fifth wheel in a couples group Didn't want ALL the girls gone. Chiara asks if he had a deal with Marcellas. Answers no Her problem; When I think one thing and you do another...it's a trust issue. I have a relationship with you that goes beyond this game Jason says he just feels weird Chiara asks if he doesn't trust her and Roddy Does he fell wierd because they ask him to follow them or if he feels they only bring him in when they need him. Jason answers no. Chiara keeps asking if she can trust him says she feels betrayed Jason says he's playing the game and not to take it personally

Aug 09 2002 02:57, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 27000				Link
Lisa, Chi and Dani in the HRD talking catty about some big busted stripper who used to work at a club that Lisa or Chi used to know
(give me a break, I just got here). Roddy comes in and drops on the big bed. Apparently he has a tummy ache. Dani is hustling the others to go to the HT. She just changed and wants them to do so. Don't know about Lisa, but she says that all Roddy has to do is take off his pants, "he's good that way." CHIARA, PLEASE PUT ON YOUR MICROPHONE "I just took a s**t, give me a break" Chi goes to the HoH (needless to say, we follow her) she is not changing to HT it, she sits to read something (HoH rules? Yes). All is quiet, and I'm afraid to change the feed. She says to the walls "I never got Lisa's key . . . . guys" I guess that is on the list of responsibilities. She fusses around with her suitcase for a while and half-heartedly unpacks and vacillates about changing and going to the HT. She goes to the door to the yard and sticks her head out. I hear nothing, but Jason comes and follows her into the HoH. CHIARA, PLEASE PUT ON YOUR MICROPHONE Which may explain why I heard nothing. OK, I'm going to be up front with you" They argue over whether or not he understands what she is asking. Jason fumbles a little about being uncertain that morning. He didn't felt there was a deal, just that she was expressing her opinion. They seem to understand what they are talking about, but I don't. It seems that it is about why did he vote the way he did, and not her way, but there is also talk of the veto power) He fumbles his way through it with a lot of "Ah shucks" She confirms that he had no deal with Marc and seems to buy his story. A lot of other stuff is said and Chi comes around to "You don't trust us?" She is talking "we" and he is tap-dancing around about his weird position in the house and the special link between Chi and Roddy. "I'm in a vulnerable position" but this won't be a problem once we are partying in NY. Chi seems to be focused and direct in her questioning. She admits that she feels betrayed and was mad at him and is wondering if she can trust him. Jason apologizes and says he felt trapped and he guesses he did the wrong thing.

Aug 09 2002 02:57, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 27003				Link
Feed 3/4 more Jason and Chia.......
Chia playing the guilt card, saying "don't you want to leave this game knowing that people knew they could trust you"? (ed. note, new at posting updates catching as much wording as possible). She is saying she doesn't understand why he did not come to her and tell her what he was going to do. Adding that she looks like a fool for believing him, and so on.

Aug 09 2002 03:00, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27020		Parent	Root	Link
Chia says she will never nominate Jason NT

Aug 09 2002 03:00, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 27021				Link
More Chiara/Jason
Chiara says there is this alliance but her and Roddy have never voted the same except for Amy. Jason says he didn't know that.he doesn't go trying to find out votes but is always asked his by Chiara. Chiara says she will never go against him,will never put him on the chopping block.

Aug 09 2002 03:03, Fri	choop	Forum: 080902 Post: 27033				Link
F1 showed Josh listening to the HOH convo between Chiara and Jason...
.... for about 5 minutes. He had the lights out and you couldn't hear the actual convo. He was doing the same thing that he did when he listened to Gerry and Eric the other night, holding perfectly still while leaning his arms on the cot. He finally got up with a pillow and walked out. Now back to the hot tub.

Aug 09 2002 03:05, Fri	ktan	Forum: 080902 Post: 27039				Link
F2 now on Josh just standing near the bedroom. Audio coming from hot tub. NT

Aug 09 2002 03:07, Fri	supercn	Forum: 080902 Post: 27045				Link
F3 - Chiara and Jason chat in HoH - 1 (long)
F3: Chiara and Jason are talking things over by themselves in HoH. Regarding Jason's vote tonight and Chiara's shock over it. Jason said "it's very weird. This week changed the whole dynamic of everything - I looked at a lot of different things. I think it was, there are some things.. one of the things I told you was a concern is that all the girls have gone. That's a bad thing" He explains that he didn't know how the vote would go down and votes would fall where they may. Chiara asks if he had a deal with Marcellas - he flatly says no. Ja says that there is a lot that happens here.. he says he's in a weird position. Kiki asks why that is. He says "just a lot of different things" and she asks him to open up. She goes on to say that she shares her viewpoints and reacts honestly in front of him... she says that she thought Jason was going the other way. He says he was swaying back and forth.. she wanted to be told. She "knew something was up" with him. Chiara says she has a relationship with him that goes beyond the game - her and Roddy do, as well - and it's also not a third wheel thing. He says "But I am".. "honestly that's a very tough position to be in". She adds that her and Roddy are very sarcastic people and are prone to exaggerate the things he does.. they're not trying to put him in a hard spot. He says that's not what he means but it's weird. He says it's different from the real world and they have connections on different levels. Jason feels he is kind of the third wheel and that his connections aren't as strong. Chiara worries that he sees it as them using him.. he says no, it's just him telling her where he feels vulnerable. Adds that he has to go over some things outside of the game context. He explains that it's not necessarily bad, but he feels, at times, a little excluded. She says he shouldn't feel that way because she feels a connection with him - there are others too that he has that he will be able to enjoy outside of the house. She wants openness and communication between us, "no walls". Chiara asks him if he knew she was mad at him, he says yes and says he tried to say "Kiki" a lot because she likes it. He says, "Honestly, Kiki. I'm playing the game. And I hope you're playing the game. I'm not saying I'm stupid and floating along and hoping to make it. So I don't want you to take it personally if I'm playing the game.. I told Roddy, if you're HoH and you nominate me, that's fine and I'm not going to hate your guts. Because it's a game! It's a game, that's the bottom line. If I sat there and played poker with him he'd have his poker face on and all that.. I felt like this was a week where it was a sucky position, with no good way to vote. I did the wrong thing, I guess..." C: You didn't do the wrong thing, you did what you want.. it's a game. It puts me in a hard position with you. Yes I have a relationship w/ Roddy but if you think that has to do with the game you're out of your mind. Ja: No no.. C: And sure there's that alliance. Sure. Do you know this is the first week we voted - other than Amy's week - every single person voted differently? Ja: You mean you and Roddy? C: Yeah. Ja: But I don't ask how people vote.. C: Are you mad at me? Ja: No, I'm just telling you. post

Aug 09 2002 03:10, Fri	supercn	Forum: 080902 Post: 27051				Link
F3 - Chiara and Jason chat in HoH - 2
(continued) They tell each other they're not mad and they're sorry. Shot changes to Josh from the infrared camera. He is laying in bed leaning in to LISTEN TO THEM. Jason says the same thing again. Kiki respects how he voted but just wanted to know.. he apologizes and tells her he's sorry in hindsight. Kiki tells him she wouldn't put him on the block.. she doesn't know who she's gonna pick. She reassures him that there's more to their friendship than playing the game - Jason apologizes again and asks for forgiveness. He says "I'm a jerk" and she says "You're not a jerk, I just wish you would have told me the other day..." Kiki says that she feels she can't trust him and that he betrayed her by voting the way he did. She hesitantly says that she might have to be worried about him now. Jason tells her he sometimes doesn't know what's going on and who to feel insecure about - Kiki says she does too, but doesn't want to feel it about him. He says he feels it with everyone. She says "Why me?" He says "Why not you?" Kiki runs down all the compliments for Jason.. how she talks with Roddy about how cool he is and what she raves about in the DR. No shots in a while of Josh eavesdropping. Chiara tries to wrap it up by saying "if you feel insecure with me you don't have to." He sighs and tries elaborating. Talks about how the DR asks him if he thinks he's being played, can he trust people - it makes him have to second-guess all the info that he comes across because "I wanted to play the game and I wanted to win." But also wants to walk out with his family and friends still liking him. He says he doesn't know, sometimes, if things are real or if he's being worked - it makes him question everything. "Maybe that's a bad thing, maybe that's going to hurt me in this thing. But I don't think I'm the only one.. we're all vulnerable in these things." Chiara says she doesn't want him to feel vulnerable - tells him that she's told the DR that she trusts Jason more than the others. Jason replies in turn that his DR sessions have a lot of Kiki talk. C: The only thing you have to EVER worry about is when it's me, you and Roddy. You know, the game is going to be played, the game is always going to be played. The bonds we make, they're not fake! Ja: I know.. I have a very real bond with you and very real bond with Roddy. Chiara says she knows he has a huge crush on her, he says of course he does and he tells the DR that every day. Jason goes on about the types of things that he randomly hears to stir his paranoia. "But essentially, it's a game, we're all being worked". Jason reassures her he loves hanging out with her - they've had their moments. "It's completely real. I really, really really do have a crush on you. I'm not making that up. When you walk into a room, I'm crazy for you. That's what makes the game that much harder." Says he's torn between trying to play it and figure out what is real. Ja says "If you put me on the block.." and she stops him to say "Never!" and says she's already given him her word. She says she would never vote him out or put him up. He gets around to comparing her to a big sister protecting him.... post

Aug 09 2002 03:22, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27079				Link
Ja and Ch in HOH (very long)
Ch is telling Jason that she can't decide between Roddy and him. If they were both up she wouldn't know what to do except she would protect him. She has been protecting him all along and will continue to do so. She repeats that she wasn't able to answer Jo's question about which one she would pick, R or Ja? Ja is trying to explain to her that in house is different from out of the house. He feels weird in the house with what's happening. Outside the house, he wouldn't feel this way. Ch doesn't want to distrust Ja. Ja tells her that she doesn't have to. He is apologizing again for not telling her he was voting E out before the vote. Ja is reminding her that they are playing a game. Ch understands but it doesn't have to be that way between them. Ja tells Ch that he has a big crush on her still. When she walks in the room, he goes crazy. However, he can't feel that way because of her relationship with R. He says that if she didn't have the relationship with R, he would be making out with her. Ch says that she knows the R and her will have a relationship when they get out of the house. If anyone thinks that her relationship with R is a part of the game, they are nuts. She will be with R in a relationship and she will be really close friends with Ja in N.Y.C.. Ch adds that she knows that Ja is off limits to her and it will never happen. Now, CH sharing her basket of goodies (swedish fish, soda, etc.) with Ja. Ja says that when they are out of the house, they will be the "bestest" of friends. Ja can't wait to tell her his stories. CH says that she has good ones too. Ja replies that he has really good ones. CH says that she has better ones since they are evil. CH promises not to ask Ja about his votes again. She tells Ja that she was testing him when she asked him if he (Ja) thought R was playing her. His answer would have indicated if he (Ja) was playing her. If Ja had answered, "I'm not sure," she would have know that Ja was playing her too. Now, Ch is telling Ja that if there is anyone else who is loyal to him (Ja), it is R. Ja is telling Ch that you never know what you have to do so don't make any promises in the game. Ch wants Ja to tell her before he votes her out if he feels that he has to vote her out since she doesn't want to find out after the fact.

Aug 09 2002 03:50, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27115				Link
HT convo (very long)
Coming into the middle of this...R is asking M if the prize money were gone and he was only going to get the regular stipend, would he stay? M says that he would stay if people were not backstabbing or lying all the time. He doesn't like running from room to room trying to get away for someone (G). He would feel appreciative of G's act of saving him if he thought G really did it for the right reasons. However, he feels that G saved him for grandstanding purposes and has confirmed that with his actions in the past few weeks. R asks if he hasn't had the most amazing moments of happiness in the house? M says that eating the chicken gizzard and winning for his team made him so happy. M says that he thought that he may not have made the cut for BB. He knew that he was intelligent enough, but on his psychological testing, he was worried that he was too EMPATHETIC to survive in the house. R moves closer to M and explains to him that one of his (R) bad traits is that he is extremely forgiving. He doesn't forget everything, but loves to forgive. Ja walks out to HT and joins the convo. R tells M that he thinks he (M) is extremely talented and smart. M thanks him. Ja says that he loves reality shows like BB. He has met 11 people he wants to be friends with for the rest of his life. M says, "Even Josh and Gerry?" Ja confirms that he wants to be friends with G and Jo. Jo is probably very different outside. R says, "I guess I should spill it." He starts to tell M and Ja that Jo is very bright, much brighter than anyone gives him credit for. M says that he knows Jo is smart. R says that they don't understand that Jo may not have had the opportunity to realize or have it acknowledged. He needs guidance and R feels that if he (R) can give it to him, he will. G sometimes needs that too. M says that he knows the type of Jo was before they walked through the BB door. M was like that too when he was younger, but he (Jo) is too old to act like that. Li calls R inside to rescue Ch from Jo in the HOH.

Aug 09 2002 03:59, Fri	Devareux	Forum: 080902 Post: 27122				Link
Josh in HOH w/Roddy saying that Eric thought he had Jason's vote, that Jason is being influenced by Marcy, lot of bad mouthing of Jason, NT

Aug 09 2002 04:06, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27132				Link
M, Ja and Li at HT and then HRD (very long)
After R went in, Li came out to join the convo. M asks Ja to put a swedish fish candy in his hand since he was touch his feet and doesn't want to reach into the bag. M comments that he is not G!! Ja asks Li if she is happy that she is still in the house. Li says that she never wanted to leave except for the split second before E went through the door. E had a glazed, red eyed look and she wanted to take his place right then. She says that she doesn't mind being locked up in the house since she lost everything when she came in the house. She quit both jobs and lost all her friends since they were her ex-boyfriend's friends. She had nothing to look forward to so going in the house was good. Ja wants to go to sleep. D reminds him that he is taking M's bed in the HRD since M is sleeping with Li in the big middle HRD bed. Li says that it's so nice that she can sleep in a room where she has people to talk to since she didn't want to be left alone sleeping in the same room as G. Everyone going inside. Li is going to get initiated into the HRD. CH is sitting on the bed with D, Ja, Li and M in the HRD. M says that they should do something nice for R since they didn't invite him to the camping trip the other night. Ch says that she didn't invite R since she didn't want Jo to come along. Ch starts a speech about welcoming Li to the HRD. M makes a comment that Ch is out more than in and that starts Ch bantering with M. Ch says that Li has to follow the rules of the HRD like never bad mouthing the HRD. You can come and go as you want. If you go to sleep first, you have to keep the globe night light on. If you get up first, you have to get coffee for everyone else. If you get the coffee, you should also try and get the batteries. You have to take the battery pack outside the door and change the battery since there is no velcro ripping sound in here. Now talking about the individual HRD members habits like M liking to nap.

Aug 09 2002 04:12, Fri	Devareux	Forum: 080902 Post: 27142				Link
Quad ck - 1/2 on Chirara giving "rules" of HRD, 3/4 Josh laying on HOH bed alone (kinda creepy) NT

Aug 09 2002 04:21, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27152				Link
More CH and HRD rules (long)
CH says that the HRD has high standards and doesn't let just any riff raff inside like people who are nasty and have dirty jerseys. R walks in and the joke around about the rules. R is going to leave and asks if anyone needs anything. CH says that you must always have manners in the HRD. There is no food allowed in the HRD unless you are on the PB and J diet. They don't want things or people crawling into the room. The door should always be closed. Li asks why G came in one day and took a nap on the bed. CH says that the doorman was away that day and anyways they aren't that cold hearted. They are still human. D and M want to enforce the door rule to keep unwanted people out. They are acting really bitchy about the rules and keeping the undesireds out. CH adds that there are only two things that happen to HRD people. You get HOH or you leave.

Aug 09 2002 04:26, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 27157				Link
Late post re: Josh and Chi in HoH
Josh is working Chi in the HoH and Josh is saying that Jason made a deal with Gerry to vote out Eric,and that he betrayed it (that is what G wanted, but that is how Ja voted - What?). Roddy visits and they do polite chat. The instant that Roddy leaves, Josh starts up again, saying that Jason's betrayal is why he (Jason) has had his head up Marc's ass all week. Josh wants Jason put up against Marc (because Marc is a vote for Jason), but Dani would be a good one too. Josh says his suggestions are what is best for Chi, and "that's all I care about." (there was a little more that I missed - no biggy). Roddy is back so things might get interesting. Chi goes to make the HRD speech for the new ones in the room. (She does a wonderful speech about the rules and rights of members of the HRD and Dani came into the HoH to ask her to repeat it again this week). Once she left, Roddy and Josh started right in on the Jason betrayal. Apparently, Marc gave it away when Josh said he was surprised at Jason's vote, and Marc said "Why should you be surprised that Ja would vote for Lisa?"

Aug 09 2002 04:31, Fri	Devareux	Forum: 080902 Post: 27159				Link
Jason explaining to Roddy his vote on fd 3/4.He says he felt like the 3rd wheel with R/E & R/C.
Roddy is telling him he thought he made it clear to him last week that he trusts him totally.That if there was a list he would trust him (Jason) #1. But he didn't come right out & say it because of "sound bites" or the way it might look later. Jason is stuttering a lot and trying to explain. Says he doesn't know what to trust or what is real. Jason brings up the 2-3 week guy "alliance" but Roddy says that he did that only because of Josh & how Josh was scarying him by his lies & behavior. Roddy asks Jason if he (Roddy)has lied to him, Jason says I don't know, I guess not. Roddy says but you've lied to me. He then goes on to say how much he's stuck up for Jason with others. Jason says I'm sorry & Roddy says I understand & you're fine w/me. (lost feed)

Aug 09 2002 04:33, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 27160				Link
The HRD speech, which is necessary because Lisa is now in the big bed as a first time member of the room:
(Dani, Lisa, Marc and Jason seem to be the members this week - Chi and Roddy are camping in the HoH) Welcome There are a couple of simple rules If you don't like them, there's the door, and once you are out, you can't ever come back. I'm president, he's VP (Marc). Go to bed whenever you want, but no one complains about the comings and goings of others. First one up gets the coffee for everyone in the room. It is optional if you get the coffee to also change the batteries. You will get extra points. There is no opening of the Velcro in the room when others are sleeping. Marc is a napper. You can come in as you please and he will let you know if you can talk to him. (she explains the signs of when it is safe to talk to him). You can invite people into the HRD to talk, but you need permission if someone is already there. In the morning, make your bed in case Homes & Gardens comes by. (This was much better delivered last week. It was funnier and there were fewer interruptions). Once you have been a part of the HRD you are always allowed back. That's why Jason is back even though Josh called it. If you fail to make your bed, I will take points off. We must have discipline or standards will drop. If you leave the room, you ask if anyone there needs something. (I'm going to stop trying to record this because it is being so poorly done this week - check back next Thursday)

Aug 09 2002 10:22, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27425		Parent	Root	Link
LOL! NT

Aug 09 2002 04:41, Fri	Devareux	Forum: 080902 Post: 27171				Link
Dani just told Lisa that Chiara voted against her, that she is going to need to be an actress, Marc also knows NT

Aug 09 2002 04:46, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 27175				Link
Back to the HoH where Jason and Roddy are talking.
Jason is apologizing for his vote. Saying again that he was confused, that he was concerned at the drop in the girls numbers, worrying that he was being played. Roddy says that he trusts Jason completely and that he can trust Roddy. He also talks badly about Josh and how squirrely he has been lately and how much he has been overplaying the game. More of the same until Roddy says that Gerry wanted to put up Jason and Roddy did the Don King of sales jobs to talk him out of it. I like you. You made a mistake Ja, but "you're off the hook with me." [connection lost] Jason's excuses are working (I think). Roddy says he noticed that Ja looked confused this week and he tried to get time to talk to him. Jason says, "I made a mistake and I'm sorry" All seems well between them when Roddy repeats that he sees the final 3 as R, Chi and Jason. Roddy is now bad talking Josh and is seriously whispering (he knows that Josh listens at the door). Roddy says, "The only thing that bums me out a little bit is . . . " Josh interrupts and is dismissed. . . . "I personally thought that if your name came up, I could think that Jason and I get each other. So, when I heard about this today, I felt wow, he doesn't feel the same." Jason says he feels like Roddy is his big brother. Roddy says several times that he (Jason) can do no wrong. Roddy says that he is proud that he can forgive Jason. Roddy says that one night over chess, Josh said he was thinking of putting Ja up. Roddy says that he told Josh that "if you do that, I'm coming after you." [I'd love to report more of this, but it's pumpkin time for me. TTFN]

Aug 09 2002 04:47, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27177				Link
R and Ja convo (very long)
Ja is repeating to R all the same stuff that he (Ja) told CH about why he voted out E. R is saying that everyone is being asked the same questions as Ja is about who to trust in the house. Ja says that he was not sure of his deal with R. R is saying that he was torn because Ja turned on him. He says that Ja has no reason to not trust him since he (R) has never lied to him. Now, R has something on Ja where Ja turned on him. However, everyone is entitled to a mistake and he forgives Ja. He adds that if Ja heard what Jo said today, he would not be so proud. Jo is really mad now. R tells Ja that E said that he would not ever put up Ja so Ja may have made a mistake voting him out. However, it can still be saved. They discuss Josh's deal with G to put R up for nominations if Jo got HOH. R can't believe that Jo told him (R) about it. Ja says that it's to show R that Jo is on his side. CH walks in and R asks for a few more minutes alone with Ja. CH grabs something and says that she has to sterilize it because G used it last. Ja says he thinks BB cleans everything. CH says that she doesn't care and is going to clean it anyway since G might have slobbered on it. CH leaves. Ro continues to talk strategy with Ja. He says that Jo and G will go and no one will fight it. R is forgiving Ja again. He says that there is only one perfect guy and it's hard to live up to those standards. Ja says that he can't stomach putting people up. He can't take it. R replies that he's totally forgiven. The only thing that bothers R is that when anyone else in the house says anything about Ja, he always felt that Ja is one person he gets. Ja is apologizing profusely again and sounds like he is getting choked up. He says that he can't wait until R sees the show so he can see that Ja thinks of R as a brother. R says that it sounds strange but he is proud to forgive Ja. He is telling J that if anything bothers him, he can pull R aside to talk. R is explaining to J how Josh works to get people out of the house. He turns people against each other by lying. R says that Jo is lying to him (R) and trying to get him caught up in it all. R says that he will try really hard to be friends with him outside the house and forgive him. Ja recounts that he said the same thing at the HT earlier. R is saying that Jo is using other people to get R out.

Aug 09 2002 05:02, Fri	Piety	Forum: 080902 Post: 27187				Link
L, D, and M convo in the HRD. <more>
Danielle finally tells Lisa that Chiara voted to save Eric rather than Lisa. D swore on her children that it was the truth. She tells Lisa that Chiara lied to her (D) saying that Jason was the one to vote for Lisa to leave. Marc comes in and confirms this. Lisa says that the game is 'about to get fun.' But D cautions that Lisa be an actress, and not let them know that she's aware of it. When Lisa asked if Eric was part of it, Marc and D rush to tell her that he had nothing to do with it, and never campaigned against her.

Aug 09 2002 05:07, Fri	Devareux	Forum: 080902 Post: 27190		Parent	Root	Link
M is also blaming C vote change on her being brainwashed by R. L is very pis^^d. Calling C a snake. NT

Aug 09 2002 05:21, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27196				Link
D, M, and Li in HRD (epically long)
After D tells Li about CH's vote, M is explaining to Li about what went down with the votes. D is pacing and adding info as M pours out the info to Li. M emphasizes that CH did a flip flop on her voting decision. Li can't believe that CH sat with her on the HRD bed and accused Li of saying bad things about her (CH) and using that to justify her voting Li out. She is very mad. Li wants to know if E had anything to do with R, C, and Jo's plan. D and M assure her that E had nothing to the plan and what they have is true. Li wants to know if they can change girl power to axe CH and include M. They do the Charlie's Angels pose. Li says that it's lucky E is out of the house. He would have been throwing things. She talks to the air and tells E not to worry, mama will take care of it. She is so disgusted with CH and R. Li wants to know again if E campaigned against her. M and D assure Li that they never heard once that E campaigned against her. D says that she was going to make a scene when CH made the noms, but she says that she changed her mind. Li says that she told CH she wants to confront Jo, but now she doesn't want to do it. She would rather confront CH. D and M advise her to stay very close to CH. Li says that she has to go through with her plan to go off on Jo or CH will suspect something. D warns her to beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. Li says that R pulled her aside for a convo today. Of course, he was talking at his level so she only caught every other word. They all laugh. R told her that there are some people in the house that are very closed and Li needs to get close to them. D says that R is probably talking about her. They are discussing getting the HOH next week so they can put R and CH up. D calls CH a snake. They don't know if it's CH or R putting her up to it. Li comments that maybe R is the anti-Christ. D laughs and says that she says that in the DR. Li says that she is totally emotionally drained, but she is loving it. She wants to know if she should thank Ja. D says that Li shouldn't or else CH and R will know that Li knows about Ja's vote. M says that Ja is worried that he is going up. D says that Ja and her are at risk. M says that while washing the dishes with Ja, Ja said that he (Ja) was going up next. They (CH, R, Jo) got to him right after the show. M starts to tell his story about pulling a brilliant on Jo. M was in the shower. Jo came up and asked him if he believed Ja's vote. M says, "You mean that he voted E out?" M says that you should have seen Jo's face. Then M slowly adds, "Or maybe he voted L out?" He was playing dumb. Li is now realizing why Ja was walking around after the live show with looking all flustered and red eyed. Li is also realizing why R was so upset about not saying good-bye to E. R never thought E was going out of the house. M tells her that CH said, "Why do you think Li and I are friends just because we both have vaginas." D leaves the room. M tells Li that he is surprised D told Li. He wasn't going to tell her since what will happen will happen. He knows about being played. He's been played totally by G and was played by A at the end. He doesn't know who to believe, but Ch flip flopped and lied. CH and R need to be put up.

Aug 09 2002 05:43, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27203				Link
More Li and M convo (very long)
Li is asking about E's involvement in the plan again. M says that he never saw E in any groupings or walked up on any conversations that changed abruptly with E participating. E also never lobbied for D, Ja or M's vote. Li is excited about the game now. M is saying that he is tired of the game. He is tired of G following him around and Jo lying. He needs some beauty. Li says that she could say some really bad things about CH, but she won't. She will wait until the right time. However, she will say stuff in the DR. M asks what CH told her about the power of veto. Li says that she told CH that she did not want CH to use the POV since E would be guaranteed to go. She recounts the story that CH told her. CH was approached by Jo and Jo told her that he overhead Li telling E that Li didn't trust CH anymore. CH says that Jo swore up and down on God. Li reminded CH that Jo is Jewish and CH went, "Oh." Li telling M that CH/R/E played a trick on Jo. E went to Jo and told Jo that he didn't trust CH anymore. Finally, it got back to CH that Li didn't trust CH anymore to confirm that Jo uses a grain of truth to spin lies. M says that if R is gunning for you, you may as well say that CH is also against you. M is recounting earlier convo with R at hot tub about being nice to Josh. Li is doubting that CH will put up Jo since R wants to use Jo to swing votes. Li doesn't think that CH will put up Ja. M says that if CH puts up Jo and G. CH wants Jo evicted unanimously. Li says that she wants the "bad seed" to go before G. That's okay. M says that he thinks that Jo is the anti-Christ and G is satan. Li says that if she had found this out when she was with Julie after her exit, she would have walked back in the house to get CH. Li thanks M for being honest. M says that D wanted to tell her from the beginning. Ja walks in and they stop talking.

Aug 09 2002 05:56, Fri	Melody	Forum: 080902 Post: 27206				Link
Roddy and Chiara plotting in bed
Chiara says shes going to make a deal with Gerry in exchange for not putting her and Rotty up if he gets HOH.

Aug 09 2002 05:58, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27207				Link
M's stylist criticisms
M tells Ja that he's a stylist and the DR asked what changes he would make. Here is the list: Ja - needs to not wear underwear with his p.j.s and swimming trunks E - needs to change from wearing boxer shorts or if he does wear boxer shorts, he needs to wear ones that fit D - needs to get rid of her "old lady" bathing suit and put on a two piece Li - needs to get rid of choker Ro - needs to be more "out there"...too conservative Ge - everything about him was an abomination, but his homemade t-shirt is the worst thing Jo - hates his denim shorts...denim and shorts should not be in the same sentence CH - her capris are bad...hates capris M says that when T was in the house, he had huge DR sessions about T. He hated her bathing suits, hair, skin, make-up, clothes, boobs, etc. He just went off on her all the time.

Aug 09 2002 06:02, Fri	Jazmine	Forum: 080902 Post: 27208				Link
Marc tells D, L, J, that he told them in the DR
that he was going to try to get Jason not to wear underwear. because Jason wears underwear under his swim trunks and pajamas.

Aug 09 2002 06:09, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 27211				Link
Chiara and Roddy in bed,both still trust Jason NT

Aug 09 2002 06:11, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 27212				Link
CH and R in bed
Ro and CH are discussing how bad Ja feels. R says that he has to forgive him. Ro says that he thinks Ja was pressured. Ja was confused. R says that they need to be more explicit with Ja. CH says that Ja doesn't get that they (CH and R) love him. CH repeats her earlier conversation with Ja. She told him (Ja) that she is sure of two things. She will be with R when she gets out and she will be friends with Ja. R says that he doesn't know Li so he doesn't know if he can trust her. R says that he can trust D. CH says not to trust D. You can only trust her if she gives her word and for certain situations. They don't know about M. R says that M is a great guy. CH replies that M does not a lot of coddling. R agrees. He tells CH that he told M about Jo being smart but not having the chance to shine much in his life. CH says that it was fun camping. R says that it's still confusing that he wasn't invited. CH explains that M didn't want Jo there. They are laughing about the crickets in the room that CH's mom sent. R thinks that he sees one of the cameramen. CH says that it's too late for anyone to be up watching them.

Aug 09 2002 06:11, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 27213				Link
All asleep in HRD (D/J/L/M) NT

Aug 09 2002 06:35, Fri	MoonChild	Forum: 080902 Post: 27216				Link
After Roddy complains about his tummy being full, and Chia makes a trip to the bathroom, they appear to be off to dreamland. NT

Aug 09 2002 08:08, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 27243				Link
I recorded last nights Chiara/Lisa convo. Heres Transcript of the first 10 minutes. Long
(Lisa feels she has aleady betrayed Eric) L: ...Like after the door closed and I was so like frazzled and numb like Jerry came up and gave me a hug and I like gave him a hug back and then like outside after the game was over Josh gave me this hug (too many "likes" to keep including them) and I...ugh C: No you haven't betrayed him ("likes" peppered throughout) You have to live in this house. You can have all the feelings you want in the world. Unfortunately you have to keep them in here. Cause you have to live..you cannot go out and buy milk you can't hide yourself in a bedroom,you can't and Eric understands that. So if you want to give Gerry a hug...cause he hugged you L I went ugh C Absolutely. It's no betrayal. The game still needs to be played. He wants you to walk home with that money just as much as you'd want him to walk home with that money and unfortunately there's going to be a lot of plastic smiles, in a few weeks,I'm sure. I hope not but it's the name of the game L: ooh I'm really glad that I stayed because if I had left today and didn't get a chance to talk to you. I'd have been what did I do to you, what happened to my friend, where did she go (both laugh) C: I want to ask you a question,I want you to tell me the truth. And this is kind of the reason I've been avoiding you for three days. I'm going to tell you something and I know you're going to be mad at me. I didn't know if I could come to you, well I knew that I could come to you but I didn't want to because I knew if this were true you would deny it anyway but I was told that you told Eric that you couldn't trust me anymore and that you had no faith in me and that if you got HOH that you'd put me up. L: I have never,I swear to you,have uttered one word of distrust or anything negative to you anywhere from day one C: Really? L: Not anything. I have nothing . Even when you were avoiding me and I knew something was wrong it was all what did I do. Nothing. I don't even want to know who said that to you. C: You know who. I know you're like why did I even believe him. But I said to him, do you understand what you're telling me could ruin a friendship, cause me to vote differently and to never trust this girl again. Please tell me what you are doing,please swear over your life, swear over your life,swear to god,swear over your life. He said I swear over everything L: When did he I said this to him? C: When you guys were in the hammock and we were in the chairs L: While I was sitting in the hammock with Josh? C: No, when you were sitting in the hammock with Eric. He said when you were in bed with Eric you were talking and didn't think he could hear thru the wall and he was lying there sleeping L: Never, NEV...ER. The only people that Eric and I ever talked about was Josh and Gerry C: You know what I heard he said to Eric the next day? which I never even said one thing to him, but Eric told Roddy and of course it came back to me, was that he went up to Eric and went Guess what babe I got you your fourth vote (stare at each other a few seconds) Breathe. L: Say this again C: (exhales) Josh tells me this, by the way Lisa hates you that's how he started the conversation. I have something to tell you I go what? he goes Lisa hates you. I go what? he goes yeah she pretty much hates you, like laughed, I go OK why? He goes the other night she was lying in bed with Eric and said Can't trust Chiara anymore, she didn't use the power of veto to save me and therefore I can't trust her and I'm probaby going to come after her because I just don't have faith in her anymore L: The only thing that I ever said about you and the power of veto was that you weren't going to use it. and he was saying well if I do this and da da da and put Josh up C: Well there was no chance L: If you rely on Chiara to use the power of veto,well,she may not. Don't even think of that as a strategy, I know she's not going to use it. That wasn't anything negative I was saying about you C: So he looks at me and I say swear to God. Josh you understand that you are changing a vote? You are ruining a friendship and you are ruing a trust I have in someone. Tell me cause I'll walk around here like a ghost for three more days and avoid this girl because I can't look her in the eye. He swore on everything,Lisa. He swore on everything and I know some people lie and whatever but when someone looks at you boldfaced and says this could change everything,please swear to God, I, I believed it because why would you swear? Why would you swear to God to me? L: Cause he's Jewish? C: (Laughs) Right L: Tell me not to go in there and start something C: Don't go in there cause it's going to be done tomorrow at nominations and then you can say whatever you want. I'm going to do it at nominations, it's going to be one of my reasons and there's going to be a million more. But you're going to be sitting there and I'm going to look at him L: Do I have your permission after nominations to say whatever I want to him C: Yeah, whatever you want,whatever you want L: It blows my mind that C: and then the followup is the next day he walks up to Eric and says I got you your fourth vote. Eric tells Roddy this, I had already talked to Roddy L: I wonder why Eric never told me that C: Eric went up to Roddy and goes, What is this and Roddy goes I have no idea what he's talking about. Eric was looking at it as Josh's way of getting on his good side like just blowing S**t up his ass. If you do the math you're figuring out there's no fourth vote. Try appease Josh, Oh you did? Come to Roddy oh I've no idea what he's talking about. And Roddy comes to me and tells me, did you tell him you're going to give him the fourth vote and I said all I did was tell him to swear to God, I didn't tell him which way I was voting. L: It amazes me that he is after me so bad because I decided to stick up for a friend instead of voting for someone who means s**t to me. I'nm really sorry if you don't... I mean this is a game...if you don't believe me C: (laughs) I do belive you. I knew if I looked right in your face, that's the thing, I can only trust what I hear, tho when I heard that I was so beside myself, and when you look back when you watch episodes you'll see if they show it times when I was like Roddy whym this is so wrong I don't understand. L: Did Roddy ever go up to Eric and ask Eric C: No. No. Obviously depending on who left and who stayed I was going to go up and ask L: I swear to you C: I know, I believe you L: Just like everything you're not going to know until the tape runs C: No No No No I believe you, I was just so upset with everything going on...if I go up to her now...and the way he made it sound it was so vindictive of course you would say I didn't say that. So I just decided to ride this week out and depending on... whatever...just ask you. I mean if that's the case I just want to wipe it clean, how you feel about me because that's not the case L: Please believe that is not the case C: I mean there are a gazillion similarities between us and there are a gazillion differences between us...and L: What would I have to not trust you about? C: Because I didn't use the power of veto, That's how it was worded to me L: But I never thought of you using the power of veto C: Exactly L But I wouldn't use the power of veto C: If you heard Eric would be put up L: Right C: Right L Even if no one came to me I'd just figure this is what going to happen C: I was just like Mother******, lying to me. And I know it sounds like of course he lied to me Long pause L: All I know about distrusting Chiara is the seed Eric planted C: I just want you to know I'm going to call him out tomorrow and it's going to be that situation right there

Aug 09 2002 09:43, Fri	Debra_Kadabra	Forum: 080902 Post: 27377				Link
More Chiara and Lisa Transcript (Long)
C: Morally, not morally, morally I was walking around here...I can't look her in the face...I don't know what to do. I'm going to clean every sheet in the house L: Does Danielle know? C: Danielle knows that I heard that. But Danielle knows that at the end of the day I didn't go with that. That I was just going to go and tell you...you know...or maybe she didn't but she'll know now um when I bring it up at the nominations. She didn't believe it either, you know, I didn't really believe it either I mean.. she just...she doesn't know who told me cause I don't want her to get involved...anymore. I just mentioned it because.., I said I didn't know how I was voting and we were trying to do the numbers and we had...she had that agreement with Gerry um if it came down to a tie which is what it was going to come down to L: Can I ask how she persuaded him to vote for me? C: Oh, basically, you going to let another girl walk out of this house,yeah you going to let another girl walk cause it's going to come down to a tie. You're going to have to make that decision. You going to let another girl walk out of this house. You know how bad that's going to look for your wife, the women on your faculty. Let me tell you something.You stick with the women.Strong group. You make Eric leave and keep Lisa, I won't put you up. She threw that ball right in the gutter (laughs) L: That's great. It's funny I had this sense of security. You know Danielle made me feel comforted. But when it came time for Gerry to say something. Danielle rolled her eyes..,Uh Oh, not safe. She doesn't know what's going to come out of his mouth C: No she was like You better not F this one up, that was the look L: I'm sorry that you felt like that. I knew something was wrong C: I know and I go NO I'm fine L: And I go What did I do? C: Well you have your friend back, not that you ever lost me but um L: Roddy's a good actor too C: He was never really... Oh, when you asked him? L: Yeah why is she avoiding me C: He never even told me that L: OMG, I think I asked him every day C: He never even once told me that you asked L: Yeah, Roddy did I do something?. Tell me. I don't understand. Eric would be rubbing my back I'd say I don't know he'd say I don't know either C: I feel so bad now. I'm so sorry L: Hey, it's Josh C: That's why he's going. I think this was it, not just this to make him out the door. That's not fair, that's not nice. Because you would have left and you would have heard those tapes of me in the DR going I just don't understand...why she said it. But now I have no choice but to not want to trust her L: I can't believe that he wants me out that bad. That he had to go and campaign to get me out with Roddy and I sear to God he was the voice behind Gerry. I think he would have gotten rid of Josh had he not friggin talked to him and now he's trying to get you to think that too. And he had the nerve to sit there on my bed and try to tell me to be happy and confident all week and then come and hug me today and tell me See I told you it would all work out if you just do what I say...Euwww. Chiara, I'm going to have to lock myself in this room. C: Yeah, please trust, let me trust you to not say anything before tomorrow's nominations. L: The thing about me is I can keep my mouth shut... C: It just shows on your face. L: Do you have any idea what you're going to say C: No I'm going to think about it tomorrow. I'm emotionally drained also. You know all through dinner how many times you caught me staring at you (Danielle enters the room) L: You mean like evil eyes? C: No, like you know how much I hate this (To Danielle) You look like you're on a mission. D: I'm going to put my feet in the hottub. You guys should come. Is everything Ok C: Yeah We will. We're just getting some nasty rumors out D: What nasty rumors C: Think. Think about it. D: What nasty rumor C: The nasty rumor I told you about L: About me D: Okay you all going to tell me or...What is it? C: That I heard she might be coming against me. D: So who started it? C: Our faithful friend, the one that I'm nominating. L: The one that campaigned to Roddy to put me up the same one that got Gerry to put me up. C: You know what he said to Eric? D:What? C: The next day, Eric told Roddy, I got you your fourth vote (15 seconds of silence) L: I can't belive it C: When Roddy said someone close to Lisa he didn't mean by friendship, he meant by distance. D: I know L: What are you talking about? C: When Roddy told me that...Josh...He told me something before Josh told me. He told me about the closeness thing and I was telling D about it. He told me close to Lisa and I assumed Eric but it was the distance thing D: When he said close to Lisa I thought Eric then I thought, logically, it could be close to where he sleeps at. C: I figured it out too and spoke to him. He swore on everything that it was true. Swore on everything Hey guys I'll tell you everything. I might talk fluff, I might say a lot of things, if I give my word that's the only thing we have in this house. D: Let me tell you guys. You know I don't give it to a lot of people. I Don't. I DONT. If I give it, it's guarenteed. C: Once someone loses that, then he's broken anyway. But that sucks L: Well, I'm giving you my word, here on this bed, that the only time I talked about you that would come across as negative was that conversation with Eric and the only other thing I know about was Eric planted that seed but that did not come from me. Eric planted that seed D: He told you too L: So could it be possible that Josh took that seed that was planted because he obviously wants the guys in the house that he just turned it and said it was me C: Right. D: Gotta give it to the guy. At least he tried C: He must be exhausted. That's why he sleeps so much D: His body is breaking down (My body is breaking down,been up allnight,I'll check the rest to see if there's anything interesting later. POSTING)

Aug 09 2002 09:44, Fri	Mostly Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27378				Link
TV in LR shows words "Expect the Unexpected" on F2

Aug 09 2002 10:03, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 27409				Link
F1: L sleeping with rear end uncovered, at first it looked liked naked but maybe just thong underware NT

Aug 09 2002 10:08, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27412		Parent	Root	Link
She's got stretchy pants on; but she couldn't get closer to the edge of the bed without falling off! NT

Aug 09 2002 10:14, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 27419				Link
G up, taking a shower NT

Aug 09 2002 10:17, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27422				Link
Gerry's morning routine (boring but the only thing happening)
gerry doing a.m. routine. coughing, hacking, brushing his teeth; coughing; shaving head; shaving face; chin uuuup! shaving under chin; feeling head; shaving more of head; feeling around ear..needs a little more shaving; turns off water; takes off top; gets in shower stall; takes off bottoms; getting head wet; now camera zooms in; now zooms waaaaaay out; now switches back to Lisa in bed, teetering on the edge. the close up of Gerry's nekkid bod must have been too much for the producer, because they switched to all 4 feeds of sleeping beauties.

Aug 09 2002 10:33, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27433				Link
more morning routine; bb has Gerry close blinds; (boring stuff but the only thing happening)
feed 1 back on Gerry; Gerry stretching in front of mirror; bb says something to Gerry (didn't understand it) and Gerry says "I was afraid of that". he puts his shirt on and goes outside. He starts closing the blinds; bb talks to Gerry again about his batteries, he goes inside; house is still dark; he drinks something in kitchen; he goes to wc sits in green chairs and starts fooling with his feet with the nail clippers; bb tells him its okay to go to storage room now and gerry says thank you I'll be right there; he doesn't pick up whatever he was cutting off his foot (skin, nails) and he doesn't wash his hands; he goes to storage room and gets a box and brings it out to the side table; fiddles around with whats inside; goes and lies down on living room sofa; boring stuff but all the other beauties still in bed...posting

Aug 09 2002 10:47, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27464				Link
Gerry still laying on couch, now snoring; all other hgs stirring but no one else up yet NT

Aug 09 2002 10:51, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27471				Link
My God! Gerry's snoring is LOUD and sounds like a cow giving birth. NT

Aug 09 2002 11:20, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27537		Parent	Root	Link
since he flipped over onto his stomach his loud snoring has ceased NT

Aug 09 2002 11:19, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27534				Link
RODDY LOST THE COVERS KIKKI TOOK THEM ALL nt

Aug 09 2002 11:24, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27554				Link
Danielle grinding her teeth periodically. NT

Aug 09 2002 11:32, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 27573				Link
BB just said "Good Morning HG, you have 1 hr till food competition" NT

Aug 09 2002 11:32, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27574				Link
BB: good morning hgs, you have one hour until the food competition. NT

Aug 09 2002 11:32, Fri	n2deep	Forum: 080902 Post: 27575				Link
BB says 1 hour until food comp. NT

Aug 09 2002 11:44, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27612				Link
marcellus up, puts on shoes; out of hrd into wc and toilet; no other beauty if up yet. NT

Aug 09 2002 11:45, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27614		Parent	Root	Link
correction "is up yet"; Gerry already up but had gone back to sleep on couch. NT

Aug 09 2002 12:03, Fri	Nerghan	Forum: 080902 Post: 27674				Link
Chi and Gerry realize that the plasma screen says something...
Chi: What does that say? Gerry: Expect the unexpected. Chi: Oh why?? Oh... Chi goes and tells Roddy.

Aug 09 2002 12:06, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27682				Link
Roddy: I knew something was going to be up with today. NT

Aug 09 2002 12:07, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27689				Link
marcellus up and goes back to bed; Chiara, Josh up (more inside)
can hear toilet flushing in wc but no pic; then feed 1 on Marc at sink; rubbing down face, eyes, ears, neck; puts the towel over his left shoulder; brushing teeth; more brushing of teeth (this guy does a good job brushing his teeth!); coughing/hacking; goes to toilet flushes toilet (i think he spit out); back to sink and turns water off; water back on and more hygiene; feed cuts to brs, zooming in and out on hgs; Chiara sits up, kisses Roddy on the shoulder and gets out of bed; comes out in her robe and sits opposite Gerry; marcellus goes back to bed! these hgs have obviously not heard BB's announcement that the food comp was to be held in one hour a while back. Chiara is back in the hoh, leans over roddy again; Gerry gets up, Chiara asks if Josh in OR?; Gerry says yea. Chiara goes into wc then hrd; Gerry in kitchen; Danielle up and into toilet; Josh says "we're so f*cked. we really are in a lot of trouble. we're not eating again for 3 months".

Aug 09 2002 12:07, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 27690				Link
D is up. G just said to D " Some kind of curve is coming our way. Bless their souls" NT

Aug 09 2002 12:09, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27698				Link
Ch: "expect the unexpected? I'm scared ". Hgs are a little freaked out by the Plasma screen warning NT

Aug 09 2002 12:15, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27709				Link
Josh complains about leftover food and curses BB about message on plasma screen
Josh complaining about leftover food and worried about upcoming comp. Saying "there's burgers and bacon and stuff", "you guys only ate a third of the food". Josh: "did they give us an hour wake up call" Gerry said yes they did. Josh: I really hate them, and their parents. Lisa in pore cam in wc; Josh still saying from kitchen: they are going to do something f*cked and retarded. f*cking bastards. He thinks the unexpected is referring to the food comp. He says "storage please" and is admitted into the storage room;

Aug 09 2002 12:23, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27730		Parent	Root	Link
more complaints by Josh about the leftover food; talks to the bacon grease
Josh: says i can't believe how much food is left. he is really angry there is so much food left; saying they were the worst team to win food priviledges. he says this week they've going to give us 6 tacos for the month. says he is going to cook everything. Now he says his ear itches. singing while he cooks the bacon. "get off of me, bacon grease" he says.

Aug 09 2002 12:19, Fri	Nerghan	Forum: 080902 Post: 27717				Link
One by one they are getting anxious about the cryptic plasma screen message...
Dani goes to confirm it by looking at it herself. Roddy walks around a buzz about it. Chi has already tripped on it a little...she is the one that went in and told Roddy.Gerry is stumbling around in the kitchen. Josh comes in also. switching feeds Chi brushing teeth.Lisa in bathroom too. Gerry mentions the plasma screen message. Saying that is how BB is stirring things up. Lisa brushing now. They have a comp. in less than half an hour. Big Brother announced that it was a half hour away a few minutes ago...they are in inside lockdown as well. Josh is still in kitchen. He's frying bacon. Gerry sitting on bed eating and looking at the iguanas.Josh can't believe that there is so much food left from the team that was able to eat this last week. He says he is going to make all of it. There are so many entrees and porkchops and burgers left. He is really overdoing it. Obnoxious. Can't see who is in earshot, if anyone. This could just be idle ranting.

Aug 09 2002 12:21, Fri	tweetybird	Forum: 080902 Post: 27725				Link
BB: Chiara, please go to Diary Room (probably to tell her about food comp) NT

Aug 09 2002 12:23, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 27731				Link
FOH NT

Aug 09 2002 12:41, Fri	Mirage	Forum: 080902 Post: 27778				Link
Chiara concerned that Josh will tell Lisa that Ch voted to evict her. NT

Aug 09 2002 12:46, Fri	ktan	Forum: 080902 Post: 27793				Link
F1 shows life-sized ballast game setup in backyard for food comp. NT

Aug 09 2002 13:23, Fri	ChosenOne	Forum: 080902 Post: 27903		Parent	Root	Link
Ballast is like Jenga but in this case, lifesize. *NT

Aug 09 2002 13:31, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27918				Link
Food competition is over. NT NT

Aug 09 2002 13:33, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27928		Parent	Root	Link
Cookies, Grapes, Salad veggies, Steak, Hotdogs, Baking and Cooking. NT

Aug 09 2002 13:44, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 27958				Link
Josh is talking to the lizards about crickets. Says he's gona take a nap...
Then J starts making up a song singing "Veto, veto, veto I want you F**king gone" (short)

Aug 09 2002 13:51, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27979				Link
Dani and L talking about God. Feeling blessed. Marc taking a nap. NT

Aug 09 2002 13:58, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 27991				Link
M & D & Ja speculate
D This is the game and we're just playing a game M It's just conversation Ja I didn't know what I was going to do when I walked in there. I just explained it to them (c&R) and they understood Ja says someone tell me a story D starts sing Beverly Hill Billys theme all talking about what they're goning to do. Wondering what goning to happen with tonight 2 of them in unison says sarcastically "Amy's coming back"

Aug 09 2002 14:01, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 27996				Link
Ja asks M and D if they have any idea what the unexpected might be, M jokingly says "Amy is coming back" NT

Aug 09 2002 14:07, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28006				Link
Ch asks Ja not to tell anyone how he voted so L won't know that Ch voted her out. NT

Aug 09 2002 14:09, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28011				Link
chi and J
Ch ask Ja if he told R about voting Ja said Jo did a wink thing to him ch said something about L I didn't get Ja ask Chi if there's something he can do to help her tonight Chi says yes don't tell anybody what I've said, just say you don't want to talk about. Just keep it to your self Ja yes chi Jo lied to me about L. said she had no loyalty to me. I don't care how you play the game just don't lie to me R comes in Chi I gonna basicly say to J you lied to me and here she is now (talking about tonight) they start talking about what they earned in food comp

Aug 09 2002 14:20, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28029				Link
All 4 feeds are on the girls playing cards outside. You can hear the workout machine (Gerry?) NT

Aug 09 2002 14:24, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28043				Link
C, D& L playing card on patio (can hear the exercise machine in background)
L says her sinus's are better today D tell C she looks good in pink, C says "thanks my favorite color" (small talk in between about who's turn, etc) Ja comes out and says he's gonna to try a nap (posting, going to another feed)

Aug 09 2002 14:49, Fri	supercn	Forum: 080902 Post: 28122				Link
G's theory is Veto winner will be able to replace the person they veto this time, instead of the HoH NT

Aug 09 2002 14:54, Fri	sage	Forum: 080902 Post: 28132				Link
Gerry speculating on what "expect the unexpected" means ...
after postulating several theories ... he says that maybe they'll bring A, Lo, T, and maybe Eric back in. Chi says, under her breath, "I don't think they'd do that." ... I think it sounded pretty increditble to her ... if only she knew ...

Aug 09 2002 14:58, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 28140				Link
Gerry Nails the Twist, Kiki Says No Way Would They Do That
Sitting out on the patio after his elliptical workout, Gerry theorizes to Kiki and Dani what the phrase "expect the unexpected" means on the plasma screen. He first thinks it might mean the Veto holder will get to put their choice of HG up for eviction. Then he says, "I was almost thinking it would have something to do with Lori, Tonya, Amy and Lisa...bringing them back to do something." (The camera zoomed in on Gerry.) Kiki says "No way, they (the producers) would never do that!" The thought was then dismissed.

Aug 09 2002 15:36, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 28292		Parent	Root	Link
Sorry, That Should Read "Lori, Tonya, Amy and ERIC." NT

Aug 09 2002 15:06, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 28167				Link
Full Details on Food Competition
Life-sized "Ballast" game set up in the backyard. A giant circular frame holds tubes that are stacked on top of each other. The tubes are labeled with the names of food items. The object is to slide a tube out from the stack without causing a collapse of the remaining tubes. Each HG takes turns at selecting a tube, carefully pulling it out, and if there is no collapse, they win that food for the week. If there IS a collapse, that item goes to the top of the pile. Each HG has 60 seconds to make a selection and pull out a tube, with a 10-second warning called by BB before time is up. The whole house is playing for the items, so no PB&J penalty this week. When the feeds join the competition, Marc is pulling a tube labeled "grapes" from the middle of the stack. No collapse, so they get that item. Other HGs go in order, successfully pulling other tubes including hot dogs (Roddy), Tri-Tip Steak (Dani), Baking and Cooking Goods (Roddy), Halibut, Rice, Salad Veggies, etc.

Aug 09 2002 15:13, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 28192				Link
Chiara Called to DR, Gerry and the Girls Continue Speculating, HG Meeting Called
ChiWhora is in the kitchen, making a protien shake. BB calls her into the DR and the feed changes to the patio, where Gerry and the girls are at the table. The speculation continues about the meaning of "expect the unexpected." Dani thinks its someone dropping by, bringing their housekey back...possibly Will & Bunky. Gerry doesn't think so. Dani observes that Kiki came out of the DR immediately. Kiki comes out to announce an immediate meeting in the LR. The napping HGs are roused and gathered into the LR, with a sleepy Josh seen wrapped in a pink blanket. Kiki apologizes to Roddy for waking him, then we go FOTH.

Aug 09 2002 15:13, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28193				Link
Everyone to meet in the LR (about expect the unexpected?). FOH. NT

Aug 09 2002 15:13, Fri	BB3Fanatic	Forum: 080902 Post: 28196				Link
Ch called to the DR. comes out a minute later and says everyone needs to gather by the plasma screen. then we get FOTH NT

Aug 09 2002 15:14, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28201				Link
house guest called to meeting!!!!
chicar a was called to dr, then a quick FOH as she goes in, it cuts to G M and Li talking about "expect the unexpected" plasma message. D supposes that its someone (either will and or Bunky from last year) bringing back someones key - shes not talking about the 4 evcited people... news flash Chi ara comes out to bring everyone into the living room! something is happening ...gerry says expect the unexpected - if u think u get nap time, forget about it. others laugh imperceptibly most HGS seem to be without energy now a FOH oh dont do this to me BB! I will wait it out to see what transpires before posting.... (ed comment - why they do FOH on these i dunno because we always find out anyway!) oh heckpostin anyway

Aug 09 2002 15:26, Fri	justareader	Forum: 080902 Post: 28247		Parent	Root	Link
video just played again I heard it the HG are talking about it, the evictees will compete to see who comes in,findout Thurs NT

Aug 09 2002 15:27, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 28251				Link
Post Meeting Reactions About the Twist (Long)
Feeds rejoin the HGs moments after the LR meeting. Dani says "Love it, love it, I love it!!" L: That was a good surprise! G: Is there still someone evicted this week. Ja: Wow! It's great. The game will never end...it will just go on and on! Marc is quiet and Lisa asks him if he's okay. She says Amy will be so happy! Marc laughs and agrees. D: Oh my god. Ja: So, the four of them will compete this week to come back. Roddy is quiet and pensive. R: What about all the betting tickets in London? All the ppl who had Eric and then lost, now he's back? Ja: There WILL be an eviction next week. Chi: She looked great, didn't she? Show it again! BB rolls the footage that we saw on the show last night, with the three HGs frolicking in tropical locations. The HGs all smile as the narration says "You were told to expect the unexpected....These former HGs will COMPETE for a chance to renter the game. You will find out LIVE on Thursday night!" M: They could replay that again and again! G: THAT's why our budget here has been so low....to pay for those trips. R: Yeah, that explains our meat substitute. R then clues in to the disadvantage that Lori will be working under, missing all that bonding time since leaving the house. C: The only person on that tape that looked happy was Amy! And that's a scary thought! Even though all the HGs are in the LR, Josh has gone back to bed in the lizard room.

Aug 09 2002 15:27, Fri	KimM	Forum: 080902 Post: 28253				Link
The twist revealed to the HGs; The evicted HGs will compete to come back in the house.......
BB told the HGs about the twist. They played clips of the evicted HGs in seclusion. the video (I didn't see it...only hear it) said that the evicted HGs would compete for another chance at the money. The HGs are all very excited about it.

Aug 09 2002 15:31, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28275				Link
meeting ends and we learn.......
After a long and unbearable FOH, the meeting adjourns and as the HGs go back to their exciting afternoon activities, this is some of their conversations: D says i love it i love it i love it... that was a great surprise. jason agress. thurs nite live show they will bring someone back... they are told d asks do they know that they have a chance to come back? others say they must know now. Ja says wow thats great Someone says this will never end.. one leaves other comes back... apparently they were shown the video we saw on the show last night... they joke about her being drunk in that video. They wonder if eric knows. G says of course hes on a plane to mexico right now. M says the picture of lori on the screen andthe all laugh. they dont figure out that E was told live by Julie chen they are amazed at this twist. so far no talk about it being stupid like the editor of this note says. someone says what about the betting tickets in london... how someone who bet on eric tears up his bet ticket and now finds out hes could be back. Jo says there are seven weeks left and wonders how will the game end? Ja says an eviction this week and then someone comes back in... and says this is only for the first four and that its not for anyone else someone says (Ja) that tonya looked great. BB chimes in with something... now the are showing the video to the HG again and wee see it now. M and Ja say tonya looks so great... they laugh at the video as amy comes on. They will compete for a chance back into the house and back into the game. one of them comes back. WE find out live on Thursday night. video ends. M says they can play that over and over and it would never lose its impact. they giggle and marvel about it. then they joke we should have been evicted first and live it up. G says the sequester cost is why the budget in the house is so low... amy drinking bar dry (g) roddy says T getting 4 facials and massages a day. And now R says lori is at worst advantage because of the time out of the house and all that has transpired since she left (he has a point). lull in convo... li says it must be wild to leave and go thru all that and then find out poss. comeback. They figure out that families were not here for evctitees because of the sequester and the twist. G makes a joke about the punishment for evictees is MEXICO?? M says T looked like she was having a great time (yeah and how many guys are joining her?) how wierd for lori to come back says roddy.. after being gone for so long. they joke about her wisc accent. and then they joke as soon as shes back shes evcited again and they have to send them back out. M says if that happened to me he said hed lose it. they talk about that the sequestered ones have to be in a different place. and then how do they fly them out? private jet? because tey cant have them on a commercial flight where they can talk to anyone about the show... Roddy says im kind of jealous. now they talk about whre would you go out of country before they came into the show and said that must have been why. D said greece. G says scotland freze. post

Aug 09 2002 15:39, Fri	Turbolee	Forum: 080902 Post: 28302				Link
Josh is isolating himself in bed while all other HG's discuss the novelty of the evicted HG's competing to come back NT

Aug 09 2002 15:46, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 28324		Parent	Root	Link
The Seating Arrangement Placed Gerry and Josh in the "Evicition Seats" With the Other HGs on the Sofas NT

Aug 09 2002 15:44, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28317				Link
HG speculating about what sequestering is like
They think they are having a good time. They wonder if they can interact with other people or if the people they saw in the video's are "handlers" that CBS planted in the video. G says "yeah looks like they had a Cabanga boy". They're laughing a lot. Trying to remember what they all said in their good bye videos. Wondering if they got new clothes to come back in with. Ja said this must be the whole deal about this years show. They also think there must be more twists ahead

Aug 09 2002 15:45, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28322				Link
G says don't you feel like a complete sucker!*NT

Aug 10 2002 11:10, Sat	Anonymouser	Forum: 080902 Post: 30518		Parent	Root	Link
who did he say that to? NT

Aug 09 2002 15:58, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 28343				Link
Chi & Lisa in HoH.
Lisa is listening to Chi's CD, and says that is sucks that she can't take it out and us it on the stair-master. Chi putters around putting things away. The room still looks like a mess with an open suitcase on the floor and an unmade bed (I guess that the HRD rules don't apply to the HoH) Dani comes in to say that the Nominations message is up on the TV. Discussion that Josh knows that he is to be put up. Apparently Marc told him.

Aug 09 2002 15:58, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28344				Link
more chat about twist. very very long
there will be seven people in here in a week from thursday... how will it work? one person gets evicted and one person comes back and so there will be eight people so it will be 8 people and stretches to twelve. they discussthis impact and we get FOH we will be halfway thru with 8 people so rod says will there be a double eviction at one time? Ja says a few days before the final day there are three people in the final house.. he thinks it will come down to either final three or final four... so there might be an additional live show. he talks about fall sweeps ect. and how they might add live shows to get ratings. rod compliments ja on his analyzation. g says well they did say dont expect to play the game like it was last year ja says it seems like they will compete... but they said BB never said the person who comes back will totally come back next week, did they? what if they do this for every next 4 evictions? these people need paper and pen to figure this out. rod says maybe you need to be evcited in order to even win? because of 3 sets of four evictions and one from each come and they have the chance to win. first sign of someone sayin that is wrong - li they joke put me up to get out. they say lori has already bought a f-ing mansion roddy says 5 weeks of paradise is not paradise. about lori not seeing kids no contact etc. amy says "house? what house?" we have to look at tonya's hair to see what happened to it. comment on her roots. lol. they joke about amy drunk dancing with a guy on the video. g says she has a friggin cabana boy - then they joke that it was just cbs staffers with her. ja says i want to be a handler. josh still laying in bed. they talk about everyone's live video goodbye messages and li supposes they didnt get a message. M says you dont find out what the votes are in goodbye so they could still show them. M says dont expect if u go now, to come back. they think its just a one time thing. G says i dont think they will do the same thing... he wouldt be surprised if another diff twist happeed. M says E has the advantage over the others because he was in longer. they joke about leatherface tonya they joke they will come back with sombreros on and stuff from goign shopping and stuff. perhaps they could have contacted family to send them stuff. they are jealous of the"sequestering" someone says there is probably other twists coming about now. roddy says i hope so.. anything. they agree that if it is positive thats a good thing. gerry says but dont you just feel like a complete sucker? they said tonya commented "hows the PB ad j?" and they say they must have told her to say that. and they talk about T spralwed out on the boat and all that ... they ask could u write in the hotel? they wonder what could u have done and not do... they said ou dont know how quickly they were whisked... jayson says this... he cant imagine that they were there so long. josh comes back logically says how could u keep her from house info and contact from others? he points out of course they were taken away totally. m says maybe they have cameras following their every move someone else says someone may just be there as a handler. gerry says their mics and cameras were small but they could "clean it up in post" what a pro other than amy someone says the others were not around many people. they say amy looked great. ja says they all looked good. g jokes... amy converting a whole island to ole miss. m jokes about americas choice "the house guests are horny this week " mimicking the BB voice. they joke about the AC and the voices and BB peoplegetting family jobs. M says what if i get a conjugal visit with one of the other houseguests. lol something about a fingerless circus carny. and they all hum the carnival music. everyone talking over each other. now talk goes to abs workout. someone notices the table is out for nominations. the others didnt notice this. they forgot about noms roddy is like its not today right?? they say yeah. ohhhh. come back to reality.. food comp today, a surprise after, and then noms. li says i got the halibut and the ground beef. they got rice, veggies, salad veggies, we didnt get onions but we got mushrooms. we should eyeball the food and plan ahead how to use the food. d says i am the macguyver of cooking and she will handle it. someone said did we eat all the free food from last night? g said i had the last pizza and we didnt give ANY back because amy is eating shrimp and lori eaging mahi mahi. roddy says part of him feels sappy. and yet the comeback person except eric is at an unBELIEVEable disadvantage. they start spreading out around the house. Chi and li in HOH room, m in lr. i thik with josh... g and r and d in kitchen. roddy curses the no coffee. m mumbles negatively about gerry alwasy commenting on his workout. where is josh? yelling in the back. m says f-ing sweaty pig. r says they havent told us viewers and will tell us saturday nite. now G is analysing the screen saver. now R says its better gamewise if lori comes back. others agree. ja says its wierd that numbers dont change for 2 weeks in a row and now ro says so basically there are 13 players and not twelve... talk how they did the numbers to the end of show with the 12... and that 24th sept would be 2 people... long way away. ja says i will have to sleep more and more. now they comment that killing a day is sleeping. note that ffriend in navy said a 6 month tour, sleep 12 hours a day, and its a 3 month tour. they talk about using sleep as a timekiller and how bb always wakes them up. obviously bb doesnt like that we want to sleep. feeds bomb posting

Aug 09 2002 16:02, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28349				Link
HG saying who they want back
Most agree that Lori whould be the most untainted because she gone the longest. M says everyone wants different people so Lori would be the most fair. M says L ran around and played ball, that was her thing, and that T was the swimsuit girl.

Aug 09 2002 16:02, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28351				Link
They are getting the food. No oil or flour, Gerry will go ask about it. NT

Aug 09 2002 16:08, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28361				Link
Chiara rushed Josh out of the bathroom (again) so he
left a toilet full of crap for her. She ran through the house screaming. Roddy laughed. Josh is proud of himself. D says it's sick.

Aug 09 2002 16:08, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28364				Link
talking about who should come back
R says he wants E and someone else wants T, Lori would be the best because there was no Lori alliance. (He forgets G & L) Commotion starts with J and the bathroom (not sure what happened) M says this is a f***ing nightmare (someone else agrees)

Aug 09 2002 16:10, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 28368				Link
Marc and Roddy in yard discussing the evicted HG's.
Marc doesn't seem happy about any of the prospects of returning HG's. (I got the impression that he wasn't too happy about Amy coming back, but Roddy reports a different story later in the kitchen. I didn't get in on the start of the convo). He also wonders aloud how long it will take for Gerry to come out once he sees that Marc is outside. (the other feeds are on the store room as the others inspect the goodies). Marc starts to talk about Lori being there only 11 days and if he had been put out instead. Someone comes to tell Roddy that the food is here. He goes to help and leaves Marc alone. Roddy tells the kitchen that Marc wants Amy to come back, but thinks that bringing Lori back makes the most sense. Josh is now up and participating like usual. Apparently there was some bathroom incident between him and Chi and a huge dump of his. Chi is ragging on him in the yard about it and asking if he sprayed the w/c after.

Aug 09 2002 16:10, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28370				Link
strategies and regrouping and josh's poo
m says he wants it to be lori because she ws the one least tainted by the house... so let her come back and it will be like starting fresh. now with that twist he asks how long will we have to get rid of gerry tey talk about someone dropping a bottle and now what does that mean to the game. he says bb thansk for the bottle from hellven... corrects self... thats two words. hell and heaven. m says if i had gone first week... lori was here 11 days not a week... convo stops as a roddy is asked to go help someone with something they had commented on how each evictee was depicted as their personality was in the house.. lori the sports girl, amy as the drinker, tonya as bikini girl. now back inside as m starts solo game of solitaire (i know i know.. i meant that he is out there playing solitaire by himself.) now the chatter in kitchen about food...now rod brings up ms good point... gettig lori back makes sense . he said how each person seems to want everyone back but lori doest have a lot of support to come back in. josh said it might be quiz about people in the house.. but ro says that its not that because eric has advatage. now Jo yells about being asked to leave the bathroom and then no one does anything in there. he says dont call me out if u dont need it. so chiHOHra goes in there and starts screaming . dont know what happened. apparently someone left a big icky poo in the terlet. josh is giggling likea little girl. he says oh that was so painfully funny. josh tells story about his amazing prank. he says i have been waiting to do that for so long. so proud of himself. jo back in WC, D outside... ja spraying lizzards with water bottle (i hope- he better not be windexing the tank). one cam focuses on the nomination table. josh still achey from laughing over his stupendous turd. M and D outside talking now.. no audio. why? they have tobe strategizing. roddy asks jo if the bleeding stopped from his massive poo. nice. hey i just post it. jerry says something about us and josh says i dont think us is the key word there Ger. im hungry and thirsty for coffee - ed so im posting and will come back. i hope you all appreciate these posts!

Aug 09 2002 20:04, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28943		Parent	Root	Link
thanks
Love the postings, thanks so much for your time and effort!

Aug 09 2002 16:12, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28376				Link
J says the less people there is in the house the more dishes we consume. It's like a mathematical equasion NT

Aug 09 2002 16:19, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28386				Link
Ch and G in HOH room discussing nom. Feeds/Sound keep getting screwed up! NT

Aug 09 2002 16:27, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28406				Link
Chiara says she may put up Josh and Roddy. NT

Aug 09 2002 16:27, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28408		Parent	Root	Link
She said that with Ro in the room. NT

Aug 09 2002 16:28, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28414				Link
Chi ask G for a talk
Chi ask what kind of agreement he has with Jo G says let me tell you what happens. E came to me and for me that was the death wish talking about do the right thing (then he talks about all the things Jo said about him like the Nazi thing) chi said she ask everyone in here that she needs their word (missed some audio) G says if you think that is a safe place for you Chi says my dicission will not be on my won feeling but what is best for the house, I sick of looking over my shoulder. (the sound is cutting in and out) R walks in. Chi says you opened the door like you lived here. She fills R in that G says if she needs to put him up he understands. G ask Are you doing Jo any favors as a human being. Is he learning the lesson he needs to learn R says The jury is still out we'll let you know Chi says I worry that if I do this and then he stays in the house. I don't trust his word. I'm scared. I'm a girl and I might be loud and I might have R but I'm still scared. He made no mistake about calling you out. G says I have my students reactions to think about so I just have to wait R says I had to stick up for you Chi says to G if I don't put you up to I have your word G absolutly on my dead mothers soul (now they're talking about food and the sun flowers) Chi says I'm going to let you know G says I understand if you have to use me no hard feelings Chi looks at R and says I'm thinking about putting you up R really. R looks at G and ask if he knows of anything that R should know Chi says jo wants her to put up Ja and Ma they agree not M again. He shouldn't have to go up again so soon R leaves Chi says shouldn't make deals with the devil G lay down wiht dogs and don't expect to be bit by fleas Now more about margaritaville They're talking about L and A and what it would be like to be there without your family Chi says I need your word you will vote Jo out G I swear on my mothers soul

Aug 09 2002 16:36, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28434				Link
R and Chi in HOH room
Chi says she just figured out that if she put R up agaisnt Jo that might work because R is the only one who can deal with him. Jo comes in and Chi tells him to get the he** out but he begs to stay. She makes him leave. then R says when did you come up with this plan. Did you talk with others about this. She says no, I just thought of it. Now they're trying to figure who would be best one to come back. R telling C about how A cried in his arms before she left and that he had a secret relationship w L that may help if she comes back. Chi said A tried to make up with her before she left. Chi ask R to make a deal with G. She says she's going to get everyone's word. Ask him if he's ok with this. He's says its wierd. chi leaves.

Aug 09 2002 16:43, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28448				Link
Now G and R in HOH
R says if I take your place and go on the block, you owe me one. I feel sick to my stomach. G says I understand. R you and I are the best at playing the game so if we can scratch each others ass once in a while Every so often we set the reset button. If you get HOH again then Chi and I get a free pass Then they talk about who comes back R says ones coming back have nothing to do with this they wondered how ethical what BB is doing G says he going to look at the rules more small talk about ethics and playing the game R so do we have a deal G yeah R says this is scary, I'm not getting a key G says Jo will expect him to get Veto and save him (talks more about all the Nazi stuff Jo said) R Jo has a side that hasn't grown up but G dealt with him in a grown up way and didn't bicker back (feed switched)

Aug 09 2002 16:45, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28455				Link
Chi now with Ja
she must have just gave him the plan and says If R goes out the door I'm f***ing going with hime Ja I"m giving you my word and I'm not changing they're both saying they're scared but they agree

Aug 09 2002 16:45, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 28459				Link
Long and general post.
Josh is now on his hands and knees scrubbing the carpet near the kitchen, and now scrubbing his shorts (don't know what that is about). G, L, D, M & C gathered around the table in the yard. R is on a lounge nearby. Josh comes out and lies down beside R. Talk about Chi not wanting to see what comes out of his (Josh's) ass ever again (she did before now?). General talk about the food. They heard something form over the wall and talk about garbage collection. Lisa called to the DR. Gerry is talking to someone but the sound is off. It is in the house, but I can't tell where. We get FOTFH but the sound remains on a convo between R and Josh about food. Still FOTFH. Back to Gerry talking to Chi in HoH with intermittent sound. She is making the deal with Gerry. He says "if you put me up against Josh, I won't hold it against you" Chi says, "You did what you needed to do last week for your own reasons . . . what I'm doing is for the good of the house . . . I can't stand another week of Josh . . ." (sound comes and goes) Roddy comes in. Chi says that Gerry and her have talked about putting him up with Josh, but that she won't do it until she has talked to everyone. Roddy seems to defend Josh and Gerry says "is that the best lesson to teach Josh?" (i.e., keeping him after what he has done). Chi says she trusts the word of everyone but Josh. Says she is scared this week. I'm a girl and he scares me. Look what he did to you, he had no problem calling you out (to Gerry). Roddy still being equivocal about Josh. Chi says, "If I don't put you up, do I still have your word that you will vote him out?" "Absolutely, absolutely" Some chat about the sunflowers she got. Chi says she will let him know and he repeats that he understands and will hold no hard feelings. Chi says that she may put up Roddy because he maybe the only one to vote for him. Roddy says "I'm a big boy" He also asks Gerry to let him know if there is anything Josh is doing that is against Roddy (that will help him make up his mind) Gerry says, "Absolutely" Chi says that Josh thinks she is putting up 2 other people. Gerry guesses Jason and Lisa. Chi says Jason and Marc. Gerry says you don't put up Marc again so soon. Roddy leaves. Chi again gets Gerry to swear on his mothers sole to vote out Josh. Gerry leaves and Roddy returns and says "where did you come up with that plan?". Have you been talking to people without me (have you been thinking without me?) Chi says that "Gerry will never make a deal with us if he is being put up." She suggests that Rod can talk to him later and suggest a deal for next week that Gerry not put them up. Josh comes in. Josh leaves and Chi says that she already has Dani's word. "I thought you hadn't talked with this to anybody?" She also says that Marc is on board. Talking about Roddy's relationships with the evicted HG's. He says he had a special secret relationship with Lori and that Amy cried in his arms shortly before she left and is in with him. Chi says "I need you to make a deal with Gerry" I'm going to call in Gerry, you know how to talk to him. Then I'm gong to go talk to Jason and Lisa. Should I put Jason on the chopping block. "He'll never trust you again" Roddy suggests that she approach Ja with the idea that she can't put up Roddy, and that you (Jason) are the most popular boy in the house. Gerry comes in and Roddy makes his pitch. It could be you or me on the block, but if it is you, you owe me a favour "and the girl" (yes, he actually referred to Chi and the actual HoH as "the girl"). Gerry agrees that he will vote out Josh in a heart beat. It seems to be that Roddy is going to go up instead of Gerry.

Aug 09 2002 16:47, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28463				Link
Chi and L
laughing about Jo Chi ask L for her word to vote Jo L you're putting him up against G Chi no R L how are you going to pull that off Chi explains L says OK you got my word

Aug 09 2002 16:52, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28474				Link
L says she thinks that if Lori comes back she will fight the hardest, be out for blood and be like ha-ha, hahaha NT

Aug 09 2002 16:54, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 28482				Link
Chi has talked with Jason and he has sworn his loyalty.
Chi wants a unanimous vote. Jason says that she has his vote until she says otherwise. Jason leaves and Lisa comes in. Chi says that she is putting up Josh and Roddy. "How are you going to pull that off?" Chi says that Roddy is the only one who will not swear to vote Josh, so she has to put him up. She says that she wants a unanimous vote, and Lisa says that Josh will know it will be unanimous once he sees that Roddy is up. Lisa is amazed and Chi says that she is taking a big risk. Lisa gives her word, and that it is no problem to give that oath. They talk about how Josh is going to go off all over Chi and Roddy and will just s**t himself right at the table. Chi says she doesn't know what she will say at the meeting, but it will be long. Lisa says "take your time" Now they wonder about the impact of the HG who comes back. Eric and Tonya are with them, but they are not sure about Lori and Amy. Lisa says she wishes she could remember what she said in the goodbye message to Amy. Chi says she can't either, it wasn't bad, but it wasn't good.

Aug 09 2002 16:59, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28500				Link
Ch and L in tiki room. L gave her word to vote out Jo. After their 'meeting' was over L (or Ch) whispers Emergency Diary Room, Emergency Diary Room NT

Aug 09 2002 17:00, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28508				Link
Ja telling M that Chi will be talking to him
M doesn't know yet. He ask if she will put up G and Jo. Ja says just wait. m says lets all just button down the hatches and get jo. (Jason has this big grin on his face. He's trying not to give it away)

Aug 09 2002 17:09, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28526				Link
The feed switched just in time to see G and Jo do a high 5 kind of punch but I don't know what was said NT

Aug 09 2002 17:14, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28547				Link
Chi has now gotten Dani & Marcs word that they will vote Josh out NT

Aug 09 2002 17:30, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28585				Link
Josh complaining about returning HG's and how it's not fair. Also whoever it is will be voted out the next week unless they get HOH NT

Aug 09 2002 17:37, Fri	InsaneBlonde	Forum: 080902 Post: 28609				Link
Josh says he'd rather have Amy come back than anyone else NT

Aug 09 2002 17:41, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 28623		Parent	Root	Link
he said he wants to see Amy but rather see Tanya NT

Aug 09 2002 17:47, Fri	iamrockabye	Forum: 080902 Post: 28643		Parent	Root	Link
but, he was talking to ChiWhora. NT

Aug 09 2002 17:41, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28620				Link
feed updates long
chiHOHra is lobbying for votes to support her dang fool idea of putting roddy up against josh for a unanimous nom. This is a huge risk that she is taking. Danielle does not like the idea and she is right. Apparently roddy knows about this... my feeds keep rebuffering dang it. It apprears she has D, Lisa, Ja, and G on the vote to oust Josh. now the feeds come back and there is more poo talk. josh is congratulating roddy on his poo. they wanted chiHOHra to come look at it. saying it was as long as jason's torso. now the conversation drifts into randomness non strategy stuff. the houseguests are happy to have gotten coffee and are taking orders for iced coffee. Now the talk comes back to ChiHOHra's plan and M says it is just scary. ed note - now is the perfect time to eliminate major threat roddy. now they say bring it awwwn ala monya. (ed note. i think i liked last year's cast better) buffering....Gerry seems up in spirits because he is being "allowed" into the "reindeer games". that whole past houseguests blows my mind says li. she would hate to have been a bb2 contestant and be watching this. the boys seem to have gotten a football... m says when they talk about owning you for 5 years they really own you... G says the BB1 contestants are out chopping sugar cane out in aruba. Roddy jokes that they will be making clothes in a sweatshop someday - actually i think it was jason. the card game continues with transient players coming and going from the table. background, the boys are playingand talking and joking loudly. ro says his parents were flying into laguardia and pretended the mic was off and the copilot said "you know hwere you are going? " yeah... just keep going to shea stadium and turn left. another jokes about a flight they were on where the pilot was playing harmonica blues were glad you are here.. da da da dum. josh tells a toliet papergame passing tp rolls down the rows of the plane -- a game the flight crew started. (was that on mad tv or what?) now li compliments m's cleaning about being very anal.. and ties it in with the poo stories. ja, li, d, m and g playing the game. they are talkinga bout m being a clean master and compliment him and how they are picking up on his habits to clean more. Chi is walking thru lr and i wonder how close we are to nomination ceremony. now she is apparently cleaning in kitchen while the card game continues and the boys playing ball in backyard. now Chi in the HRD for a moment, comes back out leaving door open the boys are talking about the evicted people having tons of rest and relaxation and good food.. maybe an advantage but roddy presses the fact that being out so long is bad. ja says it will take them a while to assimilate again. they agree that E is the best one to come back.. that E would be back all buffed up and on roids like a superhuman returning to the game. now ro talks about how easy it is to bring steroids back from mexico esp. if u look like a "normal" person. G says lori is most motivated to come back. josh says so what? he says i guarantee they will be so bored and maybe motivated more but still not having a chance. they say well they walk out the house, to see family and julie says you go to mexico... wow. now they wonder if america knows and if so for how long. now g says if they dont know they know now because of talk. josh says they have a clue because if no family there its a give away.. ja says maybe family is there to greet temp. and josh interjects "hug em and F-ck em?" and they go on why would they fly family members out for no reason? sometimes jason said that they verify that both families go to la because friends families and internet people find out.. josh says i hate internet people (as if he wasnt one last year). roddy sayes if u were locked up and isoloated he would ask for a computer strategy game that u can excercise your mind. ro says hey you can get back in the house but no wait i have to win the magic sword on my video game" ro asks about strategy games : i sland of empires... josh says .. roddy says diablo 2 online. g says is younger son is the best. ro played forever to get just to a level. but these other guys he played were great.. they had nuclear armory and he had a pop gun so he stopped playing on line. g says that you get hard core geeks... g says ages of empires.. and ro says is dad plays that. ro says his dad is 65 when g asks him. someone called to DR. i think its jason. chiHOHra in kitchen cleaning dishes and josh comes in. he asks are you calling everyone in one by one? and she laughs and says no. she said she talked to d and li and roddy actually lives in the hoh holding meetings in there. josh starts talking game over din of water.. cannot hear him well. he is obviously playing a strategy. apparently he was eavesdropping on someone to hear but couldnt. chiHOHra says what about the twist. josh says its sucks that u work so hard to kick someone out, they get to come back in refreshed and everything throwing a wrench into things... so it sucks. think about amy . shes comes back, 2 people are gone.. he sas i do like her.. she hasnt pissed anyone off, new start, then she gets hoh and kicks someone out. chi says bb didnt think so much about this. josh says unless lori gets hoh she is thrown out of the house first week. they say they must want to come back for the money espec after getting kicked out. jo says thats why we are here anyway. jo said that bb talked a lot about if and what if you are squested and be ready to lose rest of your summer. jo asks her about something... missed it.. she said after noms. jo says something about mewwit. dang cant follow it. i guess he is trying to put a message for jo somewhere or something for mewwit. (ed note. i remember they had arranged the chess game during one live show but i couldnt make it out except a M or maybe W). jo seems to leave or gets quiet. all 4 feeds showing ChiHOHra doing dishes. now a sound of a razor or something? josh says huh whats ammatta d? now razor noise again. i think this is a joke about a vibrator that they had made with d the other nite now two feeds go to D laying on a bed while chiHOHra does dishes. things have quieted so far so im posting. oops feed sounds goes to D and josh. josh said yeah im going to have to do that after last nights show. ??? now josh in WC talking now comes to kitchen. they smell a bad smell she said what the F is that smell.. that is F-ing vomiting. finally after 15 minutes, the water is shut off. josh say woah woah woah whats that for? (iced coffee) she says nominatins. and she goes... oh yeah forgot. how stupid. chi mimickes him woah woah woah. she asks him to go see what they want in their coffee he starts trying... then blows it off. sings bring out the sugar bring out the sweetener, tell them to F themselves.... now sings no milk no sweetner... then she asks hand me that bowl and josh sings i will grab that bowl if i can smoke it. chi brings the coffee out to the card game. they say tonya looked so happy chi says i miss her. she asks youd be psyced to see amy right? he says id rather see tonya (so he can lay his head in her lap again probably). he sits at the nomination table looking very bored and lazy chi says that D has a migrane. audio cuts to card game again. ro and g are talking gambling with g... we go back inside but video stays on game. chi says i cant believe we didnt get milk. i get a phone call so im posting

Aug 09 2002 17:53, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28657				Link
all HG except Jo on patio
discussing previous double crosses M says you don't have to run around garnering votes they're talking about Jo upsetting chi with all the stuff he said about L M says will Jo know that R is a decoy Chi it's pretty obvious Jo is coming so they all clam up (trying to act nonchalant, they ought to start wistleing, it's so abvious) they all get up and leave

Aug 09 2002 17:57, Fri	fefi	Forum: 080902 Post: 28669				Link
D basically trashing KiKi to R for putting him up against J. She's suggesting that if it was her, she never would do that to someone she loved NT

Aug 09 2002 18:02, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28679				Link
D & R
D says she don't like this because nothing is for sure R I don't feel good about it but if that's what she's gonna do D I told her I don't like it but she has my word. I'll vote for you. to keep you. People could get real greedy they both don't like it R I'm in a strange spot because if I tell her not to put me up and then she puts up someone else and then she has a problem then its my fault D I don't want to be put up. I don't like decoys D says noone thought about the Veto. what about that. R I'm powerless to say anything D You just don't take chances with someone you care about R Its extremly risky for me to talk her out of it. If she's already said it in DR we might just have to deal with it. I can tell G if he f*** me the rest of the house will put him up every week D I just don't like it R If I talk her out of it, then it my fault for whoever else goes up now they're talking about it might be better to put G and Jo D what if Jo wins pov and kicks you off R put G up

Aug 09 2002 18:07, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 28695				Link
Dani just planted the seed of Gerry getting veto and vetoing out Josh. Then Chi can't put up Gerry, and Roddy is at risk against the new nominee. NT

Aug 09 2002 18:10, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28704				Link
more D & R
D I ain't gonna like it R you think i do D I don't mean to make you nervous R I have 2 things to worry about. the veto and if everyone keep their word D she needs to talk to them about the veto R who would possibly veto Jo - G? D yeah but if he does she can't put him up R we'll just have to trust G on that long pause D you think she should make this a big deal or just say you nom because .... I hate the long speech R I gotta give her a hard time because when I had HOH I was joking and said what if I put you up and she said DONT PUT ME ON THAT BLOCK! D seee..... R I think it's gonna be a long week D I'm not happy another long pause (really long) D is shaking her head D then said I ask G so who do you NOT want to come back (and laughs) R laughs too D so you not going to see you family for the whole summer now they talk about their family knock on door, it's G he starts talking gibberish then FOH

Aug 09 2002 18:11, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28707				Link
another long post RO and D
after being interuppted by my cell, more posting. now M and D are in a room talking strategy i have to catch up... something about josh and then about jason. they speak of the evictees coming in. about amy with the unanimous vote for her. apparently he is concerned about himself because amy didnt get the 1 vote to stay that she wanted. these two are good at whispering. d says you want josh out of here right? M says yes. now D talks about her headache and having no caffine. chi asks do u want to listen to house music? m says i actually like paul oakenfolks??? some artist dunno. D says having no caffine and that she can tune in and tune out things... but her jaw was hurting and head... ja says something about something being scandalous. josh says something about coke and half an eightball??? then hes called into the DR. and not liking it. the cameras whir as they follow chi around the house. she appears to be puttering around obviously with a lot on her mind. she asks Ja if he wants ice coffee... he says no... woah i almost got hit by the camera. he says he has to drink water all day. something about being a salty dawg. chi repeats this. feeds go black for some reason with sound on. now audio goes to outside as chi goes out there. chi says you guys is there anyhting? im going to mention any things that i have to say... while all of us have made deals at certain times... she says she will mention gerry because of what Jo said about him. D talks about Amy with her annonymous stuff... and josh.. m says he also said that he couldnt under pressure from roddy to vote for her. m said to her if someone wants to vote for A they can. jo was according to him working her into a frenzy about the vote. chi says she will say its time to stop the circus that he has been stirring up. d asks what point did josh have in saying that to amy about the evict voite and unanimous... chi says it may take a while for me to say all i have to say. m says but if u do all that will u make it obvious that roddy is the schill? they say its obvious hes a decoy. chi reiterates that roddy is there only because of his promise that he made not to vote josh out. so shes elim. that for a unanimous eviction. they talk about how josh will work people for veto and votes to stay. li says i should give him the same pep talk he gave me at noms... then she says oooh here he comes. apparently josh is out of the DR. the convo changes. they ask about jo and his bizzare facial hair. he makes a crude comment as ususal. marcellas called to the diary room. says i didnt have a very good hand anyway. now D and roddy in the lr. taking. he says why do you feel so wierd about it. she says i know what i am going to do and what jason is going to do but you just dont know what will happen in the game. ro says if thats what she will do i cant talk her out of it. i jusut have to do what makes my odds better in the game. he says he doesnt like the ro. josh noms. d reiterates that she gave her word to support chi and keep roddy in but she doesnt like it. repeats this over and over... ro understand and agrees. ro says something about team playing and how to do it and that there is a bad feeling maybe about ro? he asks.. she says i dunno. if u dont know its not good. chi said i know i can keep ro in... but d says if ro has to go she is outnumbered. they stress that they just dont know what will happen with it. ro says im in a strange spot... and if he says put someone else up and that person has a prob with chi then he is at fault for that problem. d says i dont want to be a decoy. she says you put up people u want out.. and one goes. she does not like decoys. smart because every decoy has been evicted. Ro says what if G gets veto and takes Jo off. d says you dont play like that with people u care about. ro says his hands are tied to try changing her mind. ro doesnt know how to react to this idea of being decoy against josh.. says its risky to even try talking himself out of it. he says if she does it, then we have to just deal with it. d says chi is playing with fire. they are going in circles here but they are clearly both concerned.. why d is so concerned i dunno... r says the one person he cant talk out of it is ch because hed be on the other nom's person replacing him on the bock. he cant talk. she says if u have a goal to get rid of josh (chi) why not use gerry? he says i dunno. ro says she may be afraid. D says theres no risk of nom josh and ger. says its a bigger risk putting R up. what if josh wins power of veto and takes ro off? interseting. Gerry is called loudly to DR. D said at first when chi said G and josh she said good becase josh would think hed win. and hed go lobby against g. now she says if Jo and R are put up, josh will know that its a house wide plot to get rid of him. ro says to be intimidated on joshes personality is dumb. he says who cares how he will behave. pause and silence and she says well i just dont like it. he says i dont either. she ssays i dont mean to make u nervouse and he says well i am thats just the way it is.. i hate it i wish i wasnt. d says i think its just a stress headache. ro says two things to worry... the veto and if everyone keeps their word... d says chi has to get promise from all that no one will veto out josh ro says who will veto josh out? no one. not li or G or M or even himself. now if g gets veto power she cant put G up to replace whom ever g vetos.... josh maybe? she says what then? i hear the sound of someones stomach growl lol. very loudly. think it was d but they dont say d says will she do the big speech and make it uncomfortable or keep it short and sweet? r says dont let personality make them uncomfortable just deal with the aftermath for a week. r says i have to give her a hard time cuz when he was hoh he had an idea of what should i do and chi said DONT YOU PUT ME ON ThAT BLOCK. and he said hed have to give her a hard time about it. long pause in silence. d says its gonna be a long week. Ro says he will only be comfortable after veto results. D agrees. more silent contemplation. cameras go back and fourth between ro and D. so gerry was sitting there and he says so gerry who do you not want to come back. she laughs... ro says what did he say she says you know. so we are basicaly not going to see our families all summer. ro says well maybe it was justfor that first four (they dont think about the fairness of it). d says even if you do go out and get sequestered its an opportunity to be alone with yourself and thats a good thing probably. d says she never has d time. a knock... come in ro says. chi is called into DR. g said i just made the plea in the dr. to be the semantacist... bla bla cant understand it and FOH. ro had said before G came in about him being sequesterd for long hed prob turn into an alchoholic. posting during foh

Aug 09 2002 18:15, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28713				Link
R & G
R I want your word G if theres anyway to knock me out, I don't want Jo banking on that. If I get veto I won't use it R If you owe me and you and me are the best at being HOH it's not like you got 2 coming back at you. It's not like he can promise you 2 weeks cause he can't G did D warn you R my feeling is you don't run around and call someone or their family Nazi (more general talk about how Jo acted) R it's in my and chi interest to have you next week G it's a week to week deal, owe me a favor feed switched

Aug 09 2002 18:21, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28715				Link
more strategy talk long
ro says if i have a favor coming from you its in my interest in having u in the house... and u have 2 favors having interest two people having interest in having you in the house. he is making sure that if G gets veto he will not save josh.. g says it wont but he also has to make sure to protect himself. ro says others have more to offer him and can keep him in here longer... and that jo has nothing he can offer better than the others like him and chi. he says if people defect and says lets get roddy.. his fear is g and jo has a deal to save each other no matter what. he says it would be great if g got the veto and josh expects saving and then boom. saying what about marcellas' box offer you should have taken it.. and been nice. now g quotes the bible verse saying when i was a child i thought and acted as a child. using that on josh. he said its in my and chi interest to keep g in if he owes g a week in the house. g says props to you for playing the game like that .. it is a week to week deal. now cut to outside. chi said he told me when he was hoh (ro) she said dont u do it dont u do it and she wasnt happy.. chi? or Amy. this as just jumping into middle of convo. li says now you have roddy scared about power of veto and then asking what about the power of veto and will chi come out to try to get their word... are they plotting against roddy? d says ro is only concerned about power of veto with G .. they talk more and then say here comes ger. saying ro may be scared of josh. they joke about josh for a minute... i was distracted by the simpsons. doh. talk goes about game... li and d going to the bathroom. probably to talk. josh laying in bed again. by himself. in contemplation. posting...

Aug 09 2002 18:22, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28717				Link
Ja M and D and L on patio
they're wondering if Chi will want their word on power of veto. M I know you can't trust that f****. He's already proven he's the prison bitc* G comes out (time out) D wants to go to the bath room feed goes to bedroom (jo is taking a nap lights are on, sleep is bliss) can hear girls in bathroom but feed is Jo feed goes to D washing hands and then back to patio they're talking about the dynamics of someone leaving verus how someone coming back in really changes the dynamics long silence

Aug 09 2002 18:24, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28721				Link
Cards and Strategy (M/G/D/L/Ja)
M: I know you can’t trust that b**** L: here comes gerry, oh ok M: he has already proven to be the prison b****, hes cold L: like a icicle G: did you take me out M: yeah G: that’s my guy, that my old marcellas (quick conversation and gerry didn’t notice) Ja; we should do that for Julie, that’s the old Julie (deep voiced, almost gameshow like) G: worked myself up to a lathery sweat D: I have to pee, gerry we don’t want to talk about that L: I have to pee D: hurry up I have to pee L: me too G: here I’ll do it if it keeps going (play her hand) L: I’m following her to bathroom, Ja: do you want to play again L: I do but if I’m not out in time then R: what time are executions tonight L: I think they are about now, I remember them being daytimeish L :I have to go I feel like I haven’t gone in five days L: my skin is buring D: ok D: is that a zit D: oh I’m pmsing D: ooh Ja: and I don’t even know what to think about another person coming in the house, leaving changes the dynamic, but a person coming back in really changes the dynamic M: coming back, yeah G: you think I would be easy but its not (not sure if its about his cards hes straing out or abou twhat they are talking about) oh that’s the problem theres the rub (it is his cards) G: I’m still stuck with your 2 of clubs here D: terrible G: I’m trying to you, know..ooh ohh. Wait its got to be here Ja; yeah I haven’t eaten much today D: you want some yogurt, Jason you want some yogurt Ja; no I’lll come in, in a little bit and pick out something to have BB:: Danielle please go to the DR G: you want that to M: shes back and forth G; I saw that move M: I don’t know if it was a 2 that I would have run after it M: ok lets start over M: yeah I don’t have it

Aug 09 2002 18:27, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28722				Link
R in shower, Chi and L talking to him about nom and POV
It's hard to hear because of water. I think R is explaining how it makes him feel.

Aug 09 2002 18:28, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28725				Link
Chi wants to talk to R after he get out of shower because she can't hear either (Thank God) NT

Aug 09 2002 18:31, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28728				Link
Chi and M
Chi is explaining to M that her logic is that it will show Jo that he has no chance. because you don't put someone you care about unless you're sure. He'll have to come to me not anyone else. M I almost wish it was G and Jo, cause of G and Veto Chi G swore on his dead grandmother to me and R M oh! he did she tells him more of the conversation she also says something about Ja going back on his word

Aug 09 2002 18:32, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28730				Link
roddy in shower talking to li and chi
interesting view of roddy in shower and li and chi huddling close to door talking about the noms and the veto.. trying to ease his worry maybe that the veto will not be used at all to save josh that that chi, li, d and ro for sure are going to fight like heck for the veto power. the water is very loud and they are obviously trying to avoid being heard. intersting quad feed view of the worry about g saving jo with veto.. showing ro and the girls talking and no audio focus on G. now the talk cuts to a br. chi and m talking about putting ro against jo to send a message. 1 that you are out and 2 dont bother roddy but come to me. M saying jo is a loaded pistol and it gives him volumes to strike out at each person. chi says i wont go into a rant. m says the things with roddy too.. he says i almost wish it is gerry. becase he is the weakest links... and that g had allueded to "that whole thing". chi says the only thing she can do with G is she doesnt want to take chances.. g annoys all of us. and m says we have to stop overthinking it. g swore to chi and roddy in th eyes that he will NOT .. over his dead mother he said he will throw it and if he does win it he will swear he will not use it. mar is still skeptical becuase of all the things with jo and g. g is already a target they agree so it wouldnt help g. chi said she told g she could nom him for what he did so watch it kinda. but she said i told him no i am doing roddy here. this goes in circles.. i get another call posting.,

Aug 09 2002 18:34, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 28733				Link
Chi ask M if he knows of anymore deals on the table
M no just the deal everyone has about the common good make a comment that if this blows up this place will be like a house of Wipers R comes in Chi ask R "Are you upset with me" (duhhhhh)

Aug 09 2002 18:39, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28745				Link
M working strategy with C/R // R indirectly threatens violence, called to DR
(hard to hear, shower is running) C: that’s why I’m not putting him up R: I know C: just wait till your out of the shower, I can’t hear (me eiter) (feed on HRD) C: gerry and josh on the block, he would vote out josh, its everyone in the house but its more like that I want to put up josh against roddy because the person that puts up their boyfriend obviously wants to work hard to get him out and I don’t want josh to go through roddy to get me M: hes such a loaded pistol that I don’t want you to antagonize him to much C: I want M: I wish it was Jay, hes the weakest link, he could go before gerry. C: I don’t want tot take that chance M: we don’t want to think that way anymore, that stuff is out the window C: they swore they would not try to win veto and if they did they wouldn’t use it M: I just don’t know C: I don’t think gerry will f*** with this M: yeah hes a big enough target now C: exactly, and I told him I could put him up and he would be likely be gone, but I’m not doin that I’m risking roddy, the one word that worries us is josh, I’ve never gone back on my word, have you ever gone back on yours M: well if I actually ever give it, I rarely say that I’m giving my word, he must have sit there like 5 minutes, he really didn’t want to make the deal. C: roddy is like at the end of the day he would vote me for the loyal factor,, C; you don’t think roddy has made a deal with M: (cuts her off)no no no, I think the only deals are around what happens with next hOH C: if they stab me and back and roddy goes out then its on this house will be a house of vipers, it will be all nastiness, the amzing thing about this group, is if you give their word or even if they say I can’t give my word, I’m not telling you who I’m voting, that’s it and we can respect that C: come on in, roddy hi M: (Missed something) C: that swho I was talking to, roddy R: I also didn’t like, that tomorrow when we are out there, that when I said josh, he gave me a look like you f***ing jerk M: you mean today R: yeah today and he looked at me like I was a f***ing jackal M: I didn’t think that R: maybe I misread it, but originally I was pissed and so thought I would put up gerry over the eric-lisa thing and then we stayed up talking and it was like another secret. M:I’ve been getting a separte information flow on who to watch my back on anad that’s why I came to you and not through chiara, and if I put you up to keep you from putting me up then I would have been wrong because of misinformation from amy and misinformation from gerry. The look I gave you was surprise not mad at you C: yeah he didn’t have anything against you R: no that’s fine, I just didn’g know R: if we go out there and are worried about josh’s reaction then we are the biggest pussies in the world M: no I’m not worried about that R: I tell you right now that I would risk going to jail if he went after you, I’d risk getting kicked off the show and tell him to lay off her (Marcellas) M: haha BB: Roddy please put on your microphone R: (looks down it is on,) haha what do you think now

Aug 09 2002 18:52, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28763				Link
M/C talking yet more strategy // M with some of the vilest comments about gerry yet
C: this is not last year, we can play it our way, how long have we been here M: weeks months years, even if you separate that all and he does something ignorant and preschool to make us all upset, like tossing baskeetblal over house, and my duck on the roof, or every low joke, I mean I’m a fully formed adult, I don’t want to go back to jr. high C: I know and it doesn’t help roddy because it don’t make you breathe any easier but it idd C: I’m not making a personal decision I’m making a house decision, like roddy did, you didn’t agree but he thought it was the house’s position C: I can’t move anywhere, we are all in the hosue together, this is about whats good for the house. M: right, I woke up the other morning and I was like I’m nominating gerry I was like either him or me has to go, hes making my stay bad, its already bad, but one thing is making my time more difficult C: but you want off josh to M: I think I would put them both up, he trys to go around and make same deal with everyone, he made a deal that he C: he had no power to win it anyway M: right, C: well with whats all out there would you put roddy up there C: this is a house decision, deals are off, deals are broken, if I leave say you nominated and I’m evicted, then I know its for the game and not because you liked me. M: I knew from beginning that I was a decoy he put me up to avoid going up due to his own bad behavior, I was his shield, theres not one person for him to be up against, not one person. M: and I’m not worried about gerry, he has done so much stuff C: yeah he will be out next week, it gives us extra time C; it gives us extra time, that is all it does, he will think he has new friends, but unless he gets HOH then one of us might be up, you know what I’m saying (Lost sound for about 10 seconds) M: no C: putting gerry on the defense, now you will see, see we have gerrys word and he could end up being put up anyways M: if he interrupts a conversation one more time, or lords using the veto one more time, or says he wants to adopt me, or even touches me I’ll scream those big fat pasty legs and that fat lard body C: ok I have to go change

Aug 09 2002 19:00, Fri	MeMe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28765				Link
Roddy trying to talk Chiara out of nominating him - saying "you didn't ask me before making the decision" NT

Aug 09 2002 19:04, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28774				Link
R on his misgivings on C's strategy // R on his use of gerry
C: 2. I don’t want him to have one vote, R: uh huh C: cause once again you walk out of this house you won’t come to new york C: 3. it shows we aren’t weak, that we are strong and you ain’t hiding behind your girlfriend R: did you say boyfriend/girlfriend C: yeah, therefore it shows that we aren’t playing this game together but as individuals and that we make decisions together but no one has to understand that, that we are doing this for the betterment of the house, not for me, not for you but for the betterment of the house. I could put gerry and josh up but I could make it unanimous with him (gerry) but I forget you had that deal with him and then its 4-1, how good is my word. I’m sorry its so nerve wracking R: I know but when I did it there was no possible way that… C: I know, but can I tell you the difference, if you really didn’t want amy why did you pout someone up that would vote for her (timed out) R: didn’t even ask me if it was ok, and I usnderstand C: lot of reasons why I’m putting you up C: we have seen 3 couples put up, eric and lisa, amy and marcellas (and she named another set I missed) R: are htye couples C: yeah they are the closest to each other R: is josh and gerry a couple R: if he leaves and I’m still here then it’s a great move, its just htat remember the story with the pitcher in the 7th inning of the Dodger’s game, they saved him for the 7th game so he could win it, but they lost game 6 and never made it to game 7, it was one of the biggest managerial blunders of all time. C: oh ok R: if I’m saved then you’re a** is on the line, if I don’t C; why is my a** on the line R: I said its not on the line (no you didn’t) C: oh R: well if I don’t get saved, and either of them get HOH they are going after you R: I know it’s a conspiracy theory, its not the greastest thing but if you put us up and gerry gets veto and he is well aware of the nazi and eva brauns comments and I told him if he gets that box all you have to do is do nothing R: I told gerry that its in our best interest to keep him as he owes us a favor so hes staying in longer. I’m the best of those games in the house and so (audio goes outside for 20 seconds) R: ok I told him I’m twice as likely to win it as some people and why would I kick out a guy that’s going to keep me in, I’m not, I told him if he does use it then if he used it, is only chance is josh getting it (foth flashing on and off, but no audio changes) (As i posted this C revealed that D was throwing hoh when it got down to only them she didn't want to protect gerry anymore like their deal so through it as she wanted him zapped) C: your on the block, you have to make them not dislike you

Aug 09 2002 19:19, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28807				Link
4 mile race for 500 G, Early perceptions
D: alright realize this is 500 Gs and if it’s the bible, just consider me, look look look, consider me diabolical M: hahha D: diabolical M: a few days ago I was so bored of the house, but now its on D: whats wrong with you M: (whispering, not hearing it all) behind his back and stuff D: if you win the 500 G and go back to school its all a dream, its all a dream, you have to stay focused, like if they say you have to run 4 mile for 500 G and you can barely finish first mile, are you just going to quit, our people have been oppressed so long to be lying down for this (wasn’t she mad at gerry for using racism card) M: I want to call him on that Jason bullsh*** D: yeah if you are going to do it you have to go all ghetto out (missed one line of each) D: you stay right here M; falling on the bed D: when we out in the tree we had so many perceptions of people, like we were like that girl has to go, shes crazy and then we really liked here, then as you start playing you realize they are strangers and you can’t trust strangers, you don’t know what they are thinking they could be anything so you had to stop makin assumptions and start doing them D: yeah when they went in there they were like lets nominate Danielle because she is all by herself, I was like why do you think I’m by myself, boy eric was upset when he left the house M: oh he went down those stairs like (dropped voice to low to hear) (they are whispering to low to hear) D: that’s one thing I don’t like playing around with M: yeah D: (hard to hear due to washboard and offsync audio, posting and chaging feeds)

Aug 09 2002 19:31, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28836				Link
Jason doesn't like nomming roddy // Roddy tells nomination misgivings to Marcellas
Ja: it’s a tough move, she wants it unanimous, but its just a tough thing R: whats tough Ja; to be put there to be a decoy, that puts you in a terrible spot R: yeah but when they showed yesterday results and they asked if anything would go wrong (whisper dropped really low) and I want to evict (he starts laughing) and its going to happen again Ja; they told me they don’t want to hear abou thtat, they want to talk about game and I said, I don’t’ want to but even though it is early I wanted it on the record R: oh well (they both go outside) R: catch (throws something to lisa) R: I’ll leave you my record collection M; roddy don’t R: what you don’t like records M: no this just isn’t good FOTH D: oh this is yours huh R: take your time I didn’t mean to rush you M: oh no you didn’t R: its just like I’m so busy (laughs) R: I think this has little to do abou thte game but I’ll borrow your ear, I would normally not say it but since its out there I want to know, when I put you up as decoy I thought about putting her up and she was like no way I’ll never put you up, today it was not dealt with the same sensitivity that I had with her, and do you ever feel a little unappreciated sometimes M: yeah and so many times in there you will double and triple think things, because you will want this person out or you will want the mothers or you don’t want this person to set next to you R: like captain America M: but then I realized it ain’t like that, its about your relationships with the people that are getting voted out, and I’m likeable, and some of them aren’t roddy so when amy left it was ok and I’ve been getting a barrage of information, but I think this time its different but I want you to know I’m onboard and I think everyone is on board and if I smell dissension I’ll make sure that don’t happen R: well thank you, I’m sorry that when I put you I wanted to make sure it was unanimous because I didn’t want you to think people were against you, like josh was pissed at me but I iddn’t want you thinking I couldn’t get that M: he broke the confidence of this whole thing M: at the end it was just, you know (trails off) R: I appreciate that he knew I was going in that direction, but its in josh’s interest to have you along and not amy at least it seems that way R: I’m glad that I cleared that up with amy because it would be horrible if someone came back that I had bad blood with, me and amy were truly getting along at the end M: I’m only scared if tonya comes back because I put her up and our argument opened some eyes R: well if she does then I’ll help with that, I think they w8ill all have problems except for eric, even amy will have a hard time acclimating as we all know each other 100 times more now and they all left baggage behind M: I think amy and gerry told me about josh wantin to vote the girls out so he would have greater access to the boys (this was M that said that not G/A) (plane flys overhead, can’t hear) M: that was insanity, wow R: chiara just put my name, my parents will be like wait a minute isn’t chiara the girl he is spending all that time with, honey come look at this M: (laughs) (rebuffering) BB: HG this is a lockdown, please go to the backyard and pull the shades R: thanks josh-o

Aug 09 2002 19:41, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28861				Link
Multi-millionarie on Big Brother // Beta version of Big brother 3
(Roddy is talking about casting a multi-millionaire for the game so that all they cared aobut was the strategy and the money really didn’t remember) R: if we had a deal with dani then 50 G could really make a big deal so all she has to make is final 2, R: I mean that would be wild if some dotcommer cashed out and had a palace, but came here to play anyways and they wouldnt even care so could take risks (long pause) R: do you think they had a trial run of all this, they have all the details taken care of, do you think they put all the handlers in here and they have stuff for everything as they can’t run to the store 46 times a day M: I don’t put anything past them R: yeah R: me and you are on the same page, after 5 weeks even if she had guys dancing in front of her M: yeah, and where would they put me, they can’t sequester me in new york, everytime I walked down street I would run into someone I knew R: and the others spending a summer alone in your 30s with kids at home R: look some playing cards, us laying here and one playing basketball we should have done this more R: I think we lead the leagues in sabotage, there is a extraordinary amount when we try to talk, ninjas would rapelle down to stop us M: uh huh, (missed something) like zip, I dind’t think people would allow me to be what they needed me to be to get me out, I hcad to change their thought pattern, then I realized that every night iw as only playing with gerry, lisa, and amy, so I had to change that as that was all that was getting to know me M: (whispering very low now and a basketball is bouncing in background) M: oh ok maybe R: (laughs) M: just the touch, but I tried to be….but um…he came to me….conversation that told Danielle that I was pissed…. R: weird (timed out) HG: lockdown is over

Aug 09 2002 19:49, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 28896				Link
Long Foth - likely to be the nomination foth NT

Aug 09 2002 20:10, Fri	ktan	Forum: 080902 Post: 28974				Link
We're back and on F1, Josh is zipping up his bag in the bedroom as though he was leaving. NT NT

Aug 09 2002 20:14, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 28991				Link
foh over so is noms? josh packing things? quitting?
back from foh and apparently we missed the nomination ceremony. one camera shows josh going through belongings... almost looks like the guy is packing. the audio focused only on heavy breathing and hectic rustling of cothes and bags. now audio only as ball dribbling.. i hear from a dist. marcellas saying absolutely perfect. something looks like it happened. i hear the heavy breathing of josh now which sounds like that of someone who has recently been crying. could my wish come true tat he is quitting the game and packing his things to leavE? video shows him packing and two other cameras show houseguests outside talking with no audio.

Aug 09 2002 20:17, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 29004				Link
Marc said, "He's going to be working me pretty hard . . .
He is volunteering to take the heat from Josh to keep him off Chi's back. Roddy and Marc are planning on staying near Lisa and/or Chi to protect her from Josh's wrath.

Aug 09 2002 20:20, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29020				Link
Make of this what you want
(Roddy is talking about casting a multi-millionaire for the game so that all they cared aobut was the strategy and the money really didn’t remember) R: if we had a deal with dani then 50 G could really make a big deal so all she has to make is final 2, R: I mean that would be wild if some dotcommer cashed out and R: do you think they had a trial run of all this, they have all the details taken care of, do you think they put all the handlers in here and they have stuff for everything as they can’t run to the store 46 times a day M: I don’t put anything past them R: yeah R: me and you are on the same page, after 5 weeks even if she had guys dancing in front of her M: yeah, and where would they put me, they can’t sequester me in new york, everytime I walked down street I would run into someone I knew R: and the others spending a summer alone in your 30s with kids at home R: look some playing cards, us laying here and one playing basketball we should have done this more R: I think we lead the leagues in sabotage, there is a extraordinary amount when we try to talk, ninjas would rapelle down to stop us M: uh huh, (missed something) like zip, I dind’t think people would allow me to be what they needed me to be to get me out, I hcad to change their thought pattern, then I realized that every night iw as only playing with gerry, lisa, and amy, so I had to change that as that was all that was getting to know me M: (whispering very low now and a basketball is bouncing in background) M: oh ok maybe R: (laughs) M: just the touch, but I tried to be….but um…he came to me….conversation that told Danielle that I was pissed…. R: weird (timed out)

Aug 09 2002 20:22, Fri	ktan	Forum: 080902 Post: 29029				Link
F1 L overhears argument and goes to kitchen with Jo/Chi/Rod at kitchen. Still intermittent FOTH. NT

Aug 09 2002 20:24, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 29036				Link
Josh is now berating Roddy for knowing about it and not telling him.
Roddy denies it and Josh says that everyone knew about it, how could you not. Rod says that he stood by Josh and that's why Chi put him up. Josh accuses him of using the information to protect himself by lobbying votes while Josh was in the dark. Josh is accusing Roddy of being behind of the plot to get Lisa out and saying that Chi didn't trust Lisa in order to get Chi to change her vote. He is really scrambling to argue that he always told the truth and everyone else is wrong (I hope this intermittent sound doesn't last all night - this could be an interesting night)

Aug 09 2002 20:25, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29037				Link
Heated Broken up Argument - josh confronted by chiara/lisa
Jo: certinaly not independent of me, you came to me and said I couldn’t’ trust eric and you came to me and said that (hes very upset) you asked me if I guaranteed that I could trust her C: idd she say that Jo: of course not why would she say that, if she was leaving, Jo: but I’m not the one that convinced you that to vote lisa out, R: oh your trying to put it on me (foth) C: that’s what I heard (foth) L: first of all I never say the word ki, I say kiki or chiara, Jo: well why didnd’t she use the veto L: I told her right away in my position I wouldn’t’ use it (foth) (inbetween foths I can tell this is a fierce argument over chiara says josh is the one that made her vote lisa and josh says it wasn’t him that made her do that, chiara is saying that josh lied about what lisa said to get her to change, lisa syas she never said any of that anyways.) (feed is now outside Danielle is saying she don’t want to go in there as they are all pointing fingers right now and you don’t want to be in in it anyways)

Aug 09 2002 20:27, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 29045				Link
Josh is Ready to Push the Panic Button and Leave
Josh, in a frantic tizzy, is furiously packing his bags. Chiara says "Let him go...He's packing now, and he's gonna push the panic button." Dani confronts Josh in the lizard room and asks him if he is gonna forfiet everything and leave. He tells her he already knows Kiki has all the votes against him, that Roddy confirmed it.

Aug 09 2002 20:29, Fri	Quench	Forum: 080902 Post: 29067				Link
Amazing
F4 Argument in kitchen with Roddy josh Chiara then Lisa joins audio goes outside G/M/D/Ja Ja says he doesn't want to be in there D: It's a he said she said ppl pointing fingers and I want to stay out of it Speculating Roddy convinced C to vote L out that's what Josh is saying switch to G/Jo in tiki rm I vetoed to you That I would take Eric out and you would put up L and C. Lets go outside and tell them now. G: okay lemme change my shirt. J: my balls are quite juggled. L: it's all the b*llsh*T you carry in there J goes out to the tiki rm he's packing and leaving tells D he's outta here.

Aug 09 2002 20:30, Fri	Kimba	Forum: 080902 Post: 29073				Link
5:22pm: Argument between Josh, Roddy, Chiara and Lisa...etc
Gerry (about Josh): I think he came into this thinking he would be this year's Will. Talking about Cancun, Mexico...that it will be amazing that someone will come back...even if Eric comes back. It will be awkward for him, but neat. Switch to Josh and Roddy. J: You knew all day that this was going to happen. R: I just found out. I am on the f*cking block just as much as you are. Lot of harsh talk about calming dowbn, relaxing. J: You've covered your ass all day. R: Would C put me up if she thought I was going to go? J: No. Of course not...etc. R is saying that he is up because he would keep his word and not vote Josh out...and so she put him up agaist Josh to make sure J goes. J: You are the one who got C to vote Lisa out. You told me... R: You assume that. I gave her evidence about why Eric should stay, but she made the decision. I didn't lobby to get Lisa out of the house...you made your decision first. J: No, you clearly told me that I could not distrust Lisa. Chiara is in. Lisa is in now. Arguing. J: You KNOW I am not the one to get you to vote Lisa out. R: No, you just made that up...a lot of things you say are not true. C: (angry) Josh is a liar... L: Why wouldn't I be able to work with her... J: After she didn't use the veto... He moves clear across the room...uncomfortable silence. Sound cuts out. Changing to feed one. C: The fact that you made a deal with Marcellas...etc...sound cutting... I cannot trust you! If you are saying this and doing this... You might have put me and Roddy up... Sound cuts... L: I am quiet in this house...but I keep my eyes open. Tells Josh to "shut the F*ck up." J: I'll say what I want to say. Arguing about what he did and didn't do. Lisa leaves the room. Josh says "whatever." Chiara and Lisa in room alone now...talking about how Josh is packing. Sorry this is so choppy, but it is hard to follow. Lisa cannot deal with liars, glad he is going. Trying to pit Lisa and Chiara against Roddy... C: You're not mad at me, are you? L: No. I know everything is coming from Josh... I don't need to look into it any further. J comes in with Gerry: Gerry, who did I want up when you put Eric and Lisa up? Gerry says the two girls. Josh campaigned to have Lisa and Chiara up. But Josh was telling Chiara that he wanted Roddy and Chiara saved. (Josh called Lisa/Chiara...dunno which one...a f*cking idiot.) C: Did I sound okay? (In the speech.) Lisa and Gerry say she sounded great. C: It's nerve-wracking. G: It is horrible! D comes in: He is leaving...he is packing. He says he is going. L: Good, we'll have a week without him. C and L: It's a free week... (Meaning no vote, no eviction, cuz he goes.) posting.........

Aug 09 2002 20:31, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 29079				Link
Josh insists that Gerry accompany him to the HRD to confirm that he lobbied Gerry to put up the 2 girls,
not Lisa and Eric. Gerry does and there is a harsh exchange with Lisa about it . Josh returns to his room to pack. Josh just confirmed to Dani that he is packing to leave. "She already has all the votes lined up to evict me- Roddy told me"

Aug 09 2002 20:31, Fri	Quench	Forum: 080902 Post: 29082				Link
josh packing bathroom stuff NT

Aug 09 2002 20:33, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29089				Link
Wow, serious anger on all sides, Josh packs to leave, Dani is absolutely sure he will leave, Chiara scared of physical attack
L: all I asked was what the voting process was, I didn’t ask to know who voted against me C: I thought it was in my best intrest L: it makes no difference, all that matters is he is gone and I’m so glad, I couldn’t deal with him more than this week C: the fact that he went after me and roddy is… L: its ok, hes gone (josh) C: unbelievable L: wehres my man’s shirt C: your not mad at me are you L: no C: are you sure L: everything hasn’t registered but everything I’m hearing is josh and I don’t’ need to look any deeper than josh Jo: say where your balls are, gerry you tell them now who I asked you to put up G: I said the two girls Jo: thank you see whose balls am I juggling now, thank you (leaves) G: I did tell you that, that he wanted to put you two up G: but it doesn’t matter, C: yeah he said he wasn’t goin to campaing and he did L: I’ll enjoy this whole week with him running around like a chicken with his headd cut off (d comes in) D: he says he is leaving, he said there is no reason for him to stay, hes leavintg C: do I nominate someone else L: it doesn’t say that iun rulebook I think it makes it a free week like the guy in survivor that burnt his hand a free week C: well think about him he was sandwiched by the two people he trusted G: it may be a ploy D: no its not in his eyes, he is out of here G: I will tay with you, I’ll stay with you, I’ll stay with you C: I’m afraid at last moment he will (pantomimes punching her) G: no stay behind me, or roddy he will do the same , we won’t let you get hit C: first ever walkout G: why not we had first ever tie C: ok 9i'll stand behind you gerry L: yeah stay behind gerry G: i dont' think he has the balls to leeave

Aug 09 2002 20:34, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 29095				Link
Dani asks if he wants to loss his stipend.
My stipend, do you think I give a s**t about $4000" He is not going to sit in a hotel room fort 3 weeks. I'm not going to sit around here all week like a loser like Amy did.

Aug 09 2002 20:34, Fri	rickh710	Forum: 080902 Post: 29096				Link
Josh Says he Refuses to Be Like Amy...He's Leaving
Joes tells Dani that he's not gonna he like Amy, spending the whole week being a loser. Dani reminds him that he could lose his stipend. "Do I care about $4000?? F- that! Do I care if they put me up in a hotel room?? F-that! All the votes are sealed. Who are you voting to keep Dani? Who?" D: Roddy, but listen.... Jo: No! F-that! I'm no loser. It's a done deal.

Aug 09 2002 20:35, Fri	Mirage	Forum: 080902 Post: 29100				Link
Josh is packing, and may walk out (more)
Big blow up...Li, Chiara, and Gerry in HOH...Gerry says not to worry Roddy and him will protect Chiara. They wonder what will happen if he walks. It is mentioned that it would probably be a free week like when the guy got burned on 'Survivor'. Oh, as an aside...Josh has shaved off his beard.

Aug 09 2002 20:36, Fri	bruhe	Forum: 080902 Post: 29104				Link
verification: josh is talking about LEAVING THE HOUSE
there is talk now about chi being worried that josh will go physicaly against josh and they are talking first ever walk out? josh leaving? g says well we hadfirst ever tie. josh had brought G into hoh to somehow prove that he was innocent of anything to chi and then josh leaves calling chi an "F-cking idiot" then g asks was joshes poo joke on chi meant to be funny or not. but back to what seems like the big thing.. i suspected josh was packing to leave and then they talk about he might be first ever walk out.. and the girls are afraid and gerry said i will be there and cover you and you know rodd will too. sounds like there is something afoot. i love this: g says he wonders why rod and them had protected josh so long but understand in the final vote josh is good to have for that but said he told r. he doesnt know how long people can deal with jo in the house. verification that josh is talking about leaving the house!!!!! posting

Aug 09 2002 20:46, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 29120				Link
Chi and Lisa and Gerry in the HRD talking about what Chi said and what she could have said.
Lisa is volunteering to go out and see what is going on. Gerry says he will stay there, out of sight. Chi asks her to come back and report. Lisa returns to say that everyone is outside and Josh is packing to leave. OK says Chi, we can (safely) go outside then. They do, and the camera follows. In the yard, Gerry and Roddy agree that Josh is just being dramatic and is not going to leave. Roddy says I better go in and cool him down. He leaves and Gerry and Jason play Bball. Camera now in HRD where Dani and Lisa are talking. Lisa asks "are you breaking your word?" Dani nods yes Lisa says that Chi can't get HoH next week. (are they talking of voting Roddy out?). They talk more about it Lisa says "now that I know that they campaigned against me and that Chi changed her vote" . . ."I have a perfect excuse" Chi comes in and Dani repeats what Josh said about leaving.

Aug 09 2002 20:59, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29146				Link
Short update, lisa scouts to find out if its safe to move chiara
G: I’ll stay C: thank you G: I’ve wondered why roddy defended him so long, I guess he wanted someone bad to stand up against at end, but I told roddy I odn’t know how long the house will put up with it L: everybodys outside, except danielle’s in there with him, hes calmly talking, but still saying he is leaving, so its safe to go outside G: I’ll work out while its not quite so hot R: hes not going to leave (having trouble with my computer, will be missing some now)

Aug 09 2002 21:01, Fri	ktan	Forum: 080902 Post: 29154				Link
Rod called emerg meeting outside. Rod tells everyone including Josh to not play the game and calm down. NT

Aug 09 2002 21:04, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29162				Link
Roddy's impromptu Gatherint to go easy on josh
R: ok josh is not going to leave, but we got to just drop this and enjoy this last week, if everyone has made his choice then nothing can be done, theres stuff I love about you josh and no matter how tempting it is you promised not to bring it up, you said it on tape, so don’t bring it up, this is the last week you will have to do that and I don’t want you to piss it away Jo: I don’t care if they forget about game, I thought this was between you and me R: It might help so do you agree Several people: I do R: josh, you? Jo: we will see, I don’t’ know R: no one can stand it, I don’t want to piss the week way, I want to love it and enjoy it, thank you all for letting me talk to you, thank you

Aug 09 2002 21:04, Fri	Mirage	Forum: 080902 Post: 29163				Link
They all agree to try and play nice, and Josh agrees not to walk... NT NT

Aug 09 2002 21:05, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 29166				Link
C, L & D have been in the HRD talking about Josh's manipulations and plots.
Chi seems to be telling is straight. Gerry comes in to announce that they do have charcoal to grill the hot dogs tonight. Lisa asks if Josh is still . . . Gerry says "Oh, I don't know" as if he is staying away and doesn't want to know. Chi invites them all to her room (presumably because it is more secure). They move to the HoH and Dani immediately starts munching something loudly. Someone says that Josh just made someone look like a real schmuck (Roddy?) They get quiet. F 1, 2 & 4 are the HoH. F 3 is the yard with Gerryon the glider. Roddy enters the room to invite them all into the yard, please. He goes to find Jason. He is apparently calling a meeting. Chi asks what it's about and he says I want to try something. He calls Josh out as well. Roddy calls on all to enjoy the last week and no game talk and no accusations. I really want you to stay and you'll never have an opportunity like this again. He says that Josh has agreed and Roddy will pledge to do his best to keep things pleasant. He gets a pledge from everyone but when he moves to Josh he vacillates, then says he'll "try"

Aug 09 2002 21:07, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 29171				Link
Before Ro's meeting: L and D in Tiki talking about Chi. Dani: "She is full of $hit." about voting for L to make a tie. NT NT

Aug 09 2002 21:11, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29180				Link
Short update, another conversation over being nice to josh
M: he only feels bad because he got caught, had he not been he would have done it for all twelve weeks L; yeah R: but lets not go there, when you explain it sounds bad, I’m glad you walked in L: glad I walked in R: yeah he had to admit it, can you do it L: yeah I don’t’ want to talk about the game either G: out of respect for you I will try R: yeah I have some issues tto, but I will (more computer problems, sorry for the very short updates)

Aug 10 2002 01:25, Sat	choop	Forum: 080902 Post: 30019		Parent	Root	Link
Don't worry about short updates at all! They are actually a lot more readable/understandable because there seems to be more context
and more thoroughness on who is saying which thing. Thanks!

Aug 09 2002 21:22, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 29215				Link
Feeds show Lisa working out , Jason doing laundry, and KiKi lying down. NT

Aug 09 2002 21:44, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29293				Link
Chiara giving a detailed explanation of what she did (voting against her) // Lisa asking the hard questions back
C: so I said to him if your lying I’m going to stick by you but hes going to find out. I want the tape, I want to know. He said you know, how do you feel, if they look to me and say they heard everything L: but hearing that from joshs mouth C: which is why I did what I did tonight L: you didn’t question that last week? C: yeah that’s what I told roddy, last week he swore to me, even mean people addicted to lying could tell the truth L: you took the word of a liar that might be telling the truth this one time rather than the person who did nothing to you. Roddy told you.. C: no but when I told roddy, he was like what if hes not lying, that stuck in my mind, what if hes not lying, and then I was like she wouldn’t, but what its hes not, and if you stayed I would have someone hating me, what do I tell her C: and joshs biggest thing last night was whose head is on the platter if I didn’t put you up L: wait a minute what C: ulimatally he wanted me to put you up, but all I could do is tellyou what I felt and what I did, what I voted and if your still here I wanted to ask you, if I got HOH Josh was going up if it was a lie (she did say that when josh told her the lie, I verify this). So I don’ know him that really, though I’m a little closer to him than roddy is. This is what I’m talking about that dani walked in on, that I have to say goodbye to josh. With you guys it was like I loved you for certain reasons and I love eric for certain reason had I voted fo ryou it because I like you and the girl thing, and if I voted for him its because I knew him and liked him and hes from my home state. But that don’t’ really matter when your from somewhere small. Tehre were times I didn’t’ trust roddy, C: when I asked roddy about what to do and roddy said to evict lisa and marcellas was goin to evict eric and I knew I wanted a tie so I wasn’t the a**hole. I know this sounds stupid L: no its amazing

Aug 09 2002 21:45, Fri	Dork	Forum: 080902 Post: 29297				Link
Chiara lying to Lisa?
She is telling Lisa that Jason told her that he was voting against Eric, but last night she confronted Jason because she DIDN'T tell her how he was voted.

Aug 09 2002 21:50, Fri	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 080902 Post: 29308				Link
Chiara lying to Lisa in the HoH
Chiara says she voted to evict Lisa because she knew the vote would be tied. Chiara said that she talked with Jason earlier and said that Jason told her that he was going to vote out Eric. Chiara said she talked with Jason yesterday to thanked him for saving Lisa, just like they planned it. (ed. note: which we know of course is a flat out lie. Chiara was basically yelling at Jason for voting Eric out.)

Aug 09 2002 21:55, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29325		Parent	Root	Link
Correction: She did mention prior to voting that she wanted to be the tie, so she wouldn't be the one pickign NT

Aug 09 2002 21:59, Fri	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 080902 Post: 29338		Parent	Root	Link
She fully expected the vote to be 4-2 and was PO'd that it ended up tied. NT

Aug 09 2002 21:50, Fri	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 29310				Link
Kiki is calling josh white trash NT

Aug 09 2002 22:04, Fri	Mirage	Forum: 080902 Post: 29350				Link
In HOH Li and Chi discuss how Li doesn't share her life with others, so they don't really know her. NT

Aug 09 2002 22:07, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 29358				Link
G and Jo in kitchen. G is huffing and puffing, sounds like he might have a heart attach or stroke NT

Aug 09 2002 22:13, Fri	JulieH	Forum: 080902 Post: 29372		Parent	Root	Link
Josh was telling G between G's gasps for air that he went for bat for G last night and so that's why Josh is on the block. NT

Aug 09 2002 22:09, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29364				Link
Short Josh/Jason talk
G: I can barely lift my hand (roddy and josh in kitchen) R: holy cow Jo: that was a lot Ja: yeah Ja: yogurt and hotdogs Jo (nods) I’m goin to cook myself some hotdogs right now Ja; are we going to fire up the grill Jo: I don’t’ know but I’m tired of cookin for people Ja; actually, no these are turkey franks Jo: I’ll cook some, do you want any Ja; not any riht now, hold on Ja: josh is goin to cook hotdogs, anyone want any

Aug 09 2002 22:14, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29380				Link
More Chiara/LIsa /// Lisa on being overlooked in High School
C: so I was like maybe she wants to be the only girl in the hosue L: but then why would I have voted against josh C: yeah but I thought maybe you were coming in here and ripping me C: who is it Ja; me Ja; (offers hot dogs then talks abou texercise) Ja; I’ll let you know when they are ready L: you can deliver them to C: yeah we aren’t leaving, this will be a bad week L: I don’t think he will go, instead he will use the whole last week as one big thing whether its all drawn out or one big thing at the live show. C: and…so that’s it, so I said that she must not be my friend… L: my friends are all like watching this saying chiara its ok we didn’ understand her either C: wehre do you break the shell, doesn’t she want to jump on me or do my hair, or do my makeup L: yeah, its funny because in HS I was not the only one but in a group of beautiful people that I was overlooked, this Is a big coming out kinda of party for me, oh your in trouble kiki you just opened it C: I’m ready L: I was so overlooked in school as I grew up with these people from kindergarten as they were all so beautiful C: you didn’t feel you had to match it up with a bigger personality L: no I depleted it C: no that’s the opposite of me L: yeah I lived up like you for my friends, but I played it down for everyone else as why did I have to impress them, those are the friends I still have today, I went to new york and met one friend out of that circle an then I moved and look what she did to me in California (FOTH)

Aug 09 2002 22:28, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29425				Link
Girl Talk // Near end Lisa reveals her true opinion to Danielle of Chiara's excuses
D: I have no, I have no where to go, I have no place to go, I can’t do anything, I have nothing to relieve my stress…I mean if someones down what are you going to do, I have no where togo, so I went to DR L: they are good about that D: yeah they know D: whats goin through my head, of course stuff is goin through my head (shaking hands vigorously in front of her face) D: I went into there and set like this C: yeah, what upsets me is that what roddy did was a very nice thing, if you know how others will vote then deal with it, you did things wrong deal with it, and everyone said ok, but he said we will see, he say we will see, I mean… D: yeah yeah, if I could climb that ladder and set up on the roof, and did you know in the rules it says that some prizes may require you to leave house L: like emmy’s on first year (missed something) D: I want to eat, I don’ want to eat, I want to eat L: yeah I’m same way C: your coming in on the story but it’s a good one D: do tell L: lets not share these stories C: with girls a lot of people will tell you I’m like a little sister, cause I play a little sister role, they like to treat me like a litte sister and I have no problem with it, like me and you, sometimes we are both girls, other times you are the mother and I’m the child D: uh huh L: that a compliment C: and times we are both b****s, I don’t give people nicknames because you beomc closer to them, your not Danielle anymore because that’s who we walked in with, that’s why I call her lili and I’m kiki L: now shes telling a life sotry L: roddy told me to tell him a secret and I was I can’t I was brought up not to say it till you were asked a specific question C (interjected but was cut off) L: to rewind or fastforward I have a group of friends from kindergarten that are my friends C: hold on I’ll be back (rebuffering) D: ok, so L: back to the friends I had in my life, I had them from kindergarten, D: that’s great L: but as we grow up they blossomed so nicely I was always overlooked, always on the bottom, I iddn’t need any attention from outside the circle as I was great with them in the circle L: so when I moved to new york…(started whispering ) oh don’t’ tell chiara, but she is all over the place, I stopped her and told her the puzzle pieces didn’t fit but she was all over the place (back to full volume) anyway this group of girls we grew up

Aug 10 2002 12:59, Sat	Anonymous	Forum: 080902 Post: 30828		Parent	Root	Link
"did you know in the rules it says that some prizes may require you to leave house" comment
Maybe this rule is some kind of BB3 tricky and vague wording - The "prize" of getting back IN the house does require you to LEAVE the house in order to even qualify to compete. Don't think they'll do the Emmy thing again, like they did with Curtis. BTW anyone know where to find a list of the rules?

Aug 09 2002 22:32, Fri	Mirage	Forum: 080902 Post: 29435				Link
Brief Jo and Chi Interchange
Chi walks by Josh, and says, "hi". He doesn't respond, and she says something like 'aren't you going to say 'hi' to me?' She says she does want to talk to him later, but he doesn't see the point in it. She was moving, so may not have heard his response to her.

Aug 09 2002 22:40, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 29462				Link
Chi D & D laughing and making girl talk NT

Aug 09 2002 23:07, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 29533				Link
Jo made hotdogs, HG on patio eating and talking about marriage and difference between cheating and affairs NT

Aug 09 2002 23:11, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 29539				Link
small talk
g remembers 1st kiss with wife others start telling their 1st kiss now trying to rememberm what they did in 1966 R tells about how he discovered french kiss "He said to girl you mean you can do this" G tells of when he was 26 and someone gave him french kiss during a play on stage feeds timed out

Aug 09 2002 23:19, Fri	Phantom	Forum: 080902 Post: 29560				Link
Gerry says, "Since everyone is here, I was approached about "you got to get the power of veto."
You gotta save me." I left it at "I'll do what I can." So, he's still working it, just wanted you to know (obviously, by Josh) Roddy wasn't there, and Gerry said that's OK, you can tell him later. Needless to say, Josh wasn't there either

Aug 09 2002 23:21, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 29565				Link
G tells others that Jo is still trying to work them
L says this is the guy who was going to pack his bags and go G has a frown on his face they don't seem too surprised because they change the subject and start laughing G telling about where he's from women still can stuff girls talking about getting in hot tub M talking about hotdog game (several conversations going on at once) in general having fun and forgetting about Jo

Aug 09 2002 23:37, Fri	Lola	Forum: 080902 Post: 29626				Link
HG yell lets go to the hot tub but the feed go to bedroom and D and J
Josh procedes to tell D how he thinks the entire history of the house has gone down. Hence he is now coming to her (d) because he is now on the outside. He says he knows what he heard about voting L out. now he says this whole thing between the girls has been turned around and he thinks the girls should go up on the block. He's pis*** at Chi. He says if c puts him and her boyfriend on the block theres no way she plans on keeping you (d) lost feed

Aug 09 2002 23:38, Fri	Zorby	Forum: 080902 Post: 29630				Link
Josh working over Danielle in HRD on feed 3 NT

Aug 09 2002 23:40, Fri	Genie	Forum: 080902 Post: 29638				Link
HGs except R and Jo are outside (more)
grilling hotdogs and chatting about state fairs. Ch saying that the evicted guests that come back in will be fresh and ready to play which not fair. They discuss Amy having fun and being able to be with other people. The HGs talking about Lori having no real enemies in the house. The evicted HGs might be mad at some people at the house though. Ro comes out and G tells him about Josh asking him to win veto and veto him out. D comes over to G's conversation and interrupts them to tell that it's natural for Jo to fight to stay. G says that everyone agreed to not discuss it. D says that Jo did not agree, he just said, "We'll see." D adds that since they agreed not to talk about it, they should not talk about it. Then D walks inside to get into her bathing suit to go hot tubbing.

Aug 09 2002 23:41, Fri	Stark	Forum: 080902 Post: 29645				Link
Josh workign hard, he ain't goin down without a fight (Josh and Danielle conversation)
Jo: you can verify this with gerry, the original cartel, was me, eric, lisa, gerry, amy, and chiara Jo: then gerry wanted out so they brought in tonya without asking me Jo; anyway they vote her out already goin against the group D: right Jo: I’m obviously on the outside, they don’t trust me D: right Jo: I know what I heard, I heard lisa say Jo; you Jason and marcellas voted for lisa to stay Jo: me roddy, and chiara voted to evict her Jo: now she has a problem, she stayed and I don’t know why they thought Jason was with him but he defected Jo: I mean did you ever tell me what you were doing Jo; I thought roddy and eric was still in my corner, I’ve been upfront with you any deals with you were rock solid and true any I made with marcellas was rocksolid and true, and the one with gerry was rock solid and ture Jo: and now chiara has betrayed me twice Jo: if gerry vetos me, you think she will let roddy go, no she will go for you and if you don’t think so you are f***ing insane, M is f***ing insane, G is f***ing insane Jo: I fyou don’t believe me ask gerry who the original caretel was, they are keeping it tight, can you really wonder how chiara is sleeping with roddy when she put him up, the decoy was evicted a lot JO; they have no plans for you with them, they keep it tight, I’m the only one that was nice to tonya, they dropped me and picked up tonya, dropped her for Jason and now they are doing same thing to you. Jo: I’ll be honest with you right now I would love to see roddy to win this, if it was you and him I was voting roddy but beside him its you. (missed some) JO: if you use veto on gerry then I would put marcellas up, but if I got veto I’m vetoing him out, the fact that I kept my word in the house even when it hurts me, chiara said that’s why she put me up is BS all three reasons are BS, you damn well who I asked gerry to put up, but they are all blaming it on josh. I know I’m done unless I get vetoed out by like roddy, hes the only one I think would, and he can’t Jo: everyone knows chiara voted lisa out, D: she did? Jo: yeah ask Jason who he voted for, they thought they had him locked up and it would be 4-2 lisa out D: why didn’t you do something Jo; I didn’t know that till last night, ask him and then I’ll tell you the real deal, you can go in there and ask them all to her, lok her in the eye, I know what I heard wed night, and she said it 12 hours after the vote. Go ask gerry he is the one that had the idea of the name cartel.

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