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Aug 12 2002 00:16, Mon PhantomForum: 081202 Post: 34247    Link
Josh has not gone outside to smoke his cigar, he is in the LR. First he was watching the game,
now he is participating and interacting with the others.

The conversation in the HoH has subtly changed to the signs/evidence of if a spouse is cheating and how to approach them. Lisa is still silent, but Dani finally chips in on the cheating issue. She says that "if my husband ever asked me if I had cheated, regardless of the evidence, I'd be horribly insulted" (What? Regardless of the evidence?) Whatever, both Dani and Roddy are ganging up on Chi about the attitude toward lying/cheating, and what she would use as evidence that her spouse was cheating. Chi is putting up a valiant defence, but, as usual, Roddy is being very precise and is relentless. Roddy leaves for a while and Lisa talks to Lisa about why she didn't contribute. Lisa says it's too soon for her to even think about this, and that she missed some of it because she had to go to her happy place" to avoid it. Lisa and Chi left for a while, and Roddy lectures on his feelings on the subject to Dani. Chi comes back. and things go back to the original topic, but on a somewhat softer scale.

Aug 12 2002 00:23, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34274    Link
HOH convo continued...
Ro leaves the HOH to go to the WC. Ch apologizes to Li and D for going at it with R. Li says that she zoned out since cheating is too fresh to her. D told her that she liked to see the points that each person was making. D adds that it's interesting that all the cheating convo started with a discussion about the interview questions. Ro comes back in. They continue their convo about relationships. Ch concludes by saying that Ro is a very secure person who has dated insecure women. Ro thanks her for saying that. Ch adds that she is a secure person who has dated insecure men and has had to change herself to accommodate their insecurities. Everyone decides to have popcorn. D and Li leave HOH. Ch goes over to Ro on the bed and they hug and kiss for a bit before going out to get popcorn.

Aug 12 2002 00:49, Mon blugg73Forum: 081202 Post: 34349    Link
their playing duck ball again NT

Aug 12 2002 00:52, Mon blugg73Forum: 081202 Post: 34354    Link
late post d is talking to l
cant really hear what they are saying. sometihng about showing trur colors then d starts sing true color song again. there talking about chi sorry really hard to hear them

Aug 12 2002 01:13, Mon KazForum: 081202 Post: 34378  ParentRootLink
L said C just made R look like a saint...D then said she showed her whole deck of cards.. strated singin true colors, then C walked in NT

Aug 12 2002 01:14, Mon KazForum: 081202 Post: 34380  ParentRootLink
this was just after the 'relationship' convo in the HOH.... NT

Aug 12 2002 02:50, Mon queenbForum: 081202 Post: 34527  ParentRootLink
do think that dani has ashot againstJason NT

Aug 12 2002 02:03, Mon ktanForum: 081202 Post: 34438    Link
HGs gathered in bathroom propose wearing 80s style clothing during live show. NT

Aug 12 2002 02:19, Mon ktanForum: 081202 Post: 34460  ParentRootLink
Rod/Ja try out an 80s outfit. Chi says she'll wear her workout clothing. NT

Aug 12 2002 03:25, Mon skullyForum: 081202 Post: 34579    Link
all hg's except gerry and josh in room discussing how day went NT

Aug 12 2002 03:58, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34628    Link
HGs in HRD and another CH and Ro argruement (very long)
M,Li,D,C,Ja and R in HRD. They are concerned that G will come out of the DR and come into the HRD where everyone is. M says that G gave him a really angry look when he (M) left G in the room earlier during the 80's discussion. He adds that if he is found raped and dead in the morning, they will know who did it.

Ja gets called into the DR. They want to be quiet in the HRD so that G won't find them. Ja turns out the light so they can hide, but D tells him to turn them back on. Ch tells them to be quiet as they hear G walk past the room.

Ch asks each person to answer yes or no to this question: "Is Ro is as laid back as he seems to be in the house?" M: No. Li: No D: Yes Ch: No. They start to discuss what they think about his laid back. G comes into the room and Ch cheerily says "hi" to him. They continue the discussion. G figures out the question and says that he thinks Ro is laid back like pilots maintaining an even stream.

Ro says that it's different in the house since everyone needs to protect each other's dignity. He gives an example of earlier at dinner when he reached for some more zucchini. Ch had made some comment about taking more zucchini which he felt was stated in some type of superior way. He felt slighted by it. Ch can't believe that he felt that. Ro says that Ch was telling everyone that she infers a lot from non-verbal comments and he is just doing the same. Ch asks if that's why Ro has been acting weird tonight. Ro says that he had to take two aspirin after dinner and he didn't want people to think that every action he did meant something. He repeats that every one needs to respect each other's dignity.

D wants to move the convo back to want they miss outside the house. She asks M what he thinks and M jumps up and runs out of the room screaming (play acting). Ro says that if what M did was a response to what he (Ro) was just saying, it is a perfect example of hurting him (Ro). Ja comes back into the room. G tells him that he thinks it was a reaction to D's question. They discuss things they miss (e.g. books, info, etc.).

R leaves the room to go to the WC. Ch says that she didn't mean to start anything again. D says that R probably didn't like what Ch just did. Ch replies that Ro likes that type of stuff since he likes to get "to know" people. D says that even so, it's not good to focus attention on one person in the group with questions like that. She asked the whole group for an opinion on one person and maybe that person didn't want that opinion.

Ro walks back in and Ch asks him if he minded her question. Ro says that he didn't mind the question, but he didn't like the way it was asked. She asked, "Do you think that Roddy thinks is as laid back outside as he is in the house?" He would have preferred, "Do you think Roddy is as laid back in the house as outside?" Ro adds that he doesn't mind disagreement, he is open to learn from the discussion. Even earlier, he could have hammered her more during their arguement (cheating arguement). However, he did not want to embarrass her. He didn't want to introduce information that can hurt or embarrass her.

Ch is challenging Ro thinking that he could have said things to embarrass her. G says that Ro means the possibility of embarrassing her is what Ro is discussing. Ro repeats that he won't do something that has a possibility of embarrassing someone. Ch is called to the DR. D says that she feels very uncomfortable about this discussion. She adds that everyone in the house is human and has feelings. No one can discount another person's feelings and hurt them. Ch sticks her head back into the room and tells Ro that M wants to talk to him in the hammock. The camera zooms in on Gerry sitting on M's side of the bed with one of his feet his his hand.

Aug 12 2002 04:07, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34637    Link
M and Ro convo in hammock about G (long)
Ro goes out to M on the hammock. Jo is playing bb. M tells Ro that his running out of the room had nothing to do with what Ro was saying. M was just freaked out that G put his big, hemmorhoid filled ass on his side of the bed on his pillow. Then the last straw was G started to pick at his nasty feet and M had to run out. He couldn't stand watching G pick at his big club feet. He can't stand G being around. Besides Jo, he does not want to talk to G. He wants to do something, but D has told him that it's not fair to G. M thinks that they really need to do an intervention with G. He tells Ro a story about G coming up to him (M) at the hammock and M not moving over for him to sit. G just sat at the edge of the hammock anyway and didn't get the message that M didn't want him there. M thinks that G is being disrespectful and needs an intervention. Then they can return G back to his family a better person. Ro says that M is just trying to find an excuse for an intervention.

Aug 12 2002 04:21, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34647    Link
M goes back into HRD (long)
M goes back into HRD and G is gone. D says, "I'm sorry." to M. M tells them that watching G pick at his feet was the last straw that sent him out. D gives M a big hug. Li, D, M and Ja are all laughing really hard after D's speech about respecting people's feelings. M says that he'll have nightmares. Li tells him that she has the "bad" pillow that G sat on and has given M her pillow. Ja leaves the room.

Ro comes in and they begin to discuss train trips. D wants to go on the cross Canada train that Ro went on. Li says that she took the train from the east coast to CA and then describes her trip. She was buying alcohol for a bunch of underage guys. Ja comes back into the room and Ro gets called out to the DR. CH comes back into the room and asks D if Ro didn't give back to her as bad as she gave him. She adds that she knew Ro was upset about the zucchini and twisted all up into his superiority complex.

Ja thinks that they are crazy in love. Li comments that they are made for each other and will have the best make-up sex. Now Ch is saying that Ro should try and embarrass her. If someone is going to cheat on her, they should just go do it. Talking about cheating is just as bad as doing it. CH starts talking about John 2 in the DR and FOTH.

Aug 12 2002 04:37, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34654    Link
D, Ch convo about Ch's future children and her family (long)
Ch telling D that she likes to argue with Ro in front of the others since she likes getting their opinions. D asks if Ch would argue like that in front of her children. Ch answers that she would not argue in front of her children since they are so impressionable and have their own reality. She mentions "when Ro and I have children" and D calls her on it. Li says, "Busted." Ch is saying that she loves her relationship with Ro and their "disagreements". She is so much like herself in here and her relationship with Ro is so great. She is so turned on by the heated discussions.

Li comments that her parents never argued. Ch says that her parents never argued until two years before their divorce. They were married for twenty years. Ch was raised by her mom since she was twelve. D asks if her parents got divorced because of cheating. Ch is explaining that her parents are wealthy. Her dad was always chasing more material things and lost a lot of money on the stock market in the 80's. He even lost ($500,000) in one day. He was bad at hiding it and her mom was able to cover it up from the kids for a long time. Finally, her mom knew that she could have a better life. They tried to get back together again and even went to family therapy which Ch says was a nightmare. He didn't change so they got divorced and her father fell into a depression. It's been twelve years since the divorce. Li asks if he has recovered financially and Ch says, "Oh yeah..." and then FOTH...

Aug 12 2002 04:43, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34658    Link
More Ch's family with Ch, D, M, Ro, Li and Ja in HRD
back from FOTH. Her father is more settled now. He appreciates the little things and is wonderful with his family. Ch's family used to live in a big mansion, but they lost it. Her father was a builder and built the mansion. Now he lives in a Cape Cod four miles from the mansion. Her mother doesn't exist in the town. Ch comments that it's hard to have a divorce in a small town. She had a harder time than her brother since he went to private school and she went to public school.

Aug 12 2002 04:56, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34665    Link
Discussion of boarding school in HRD (long)
Ch says that she regrets not doing well so she could go to boarding school. Ro says that he went to a prep school, but only day school. M says that he had a chance to go away for high school and didn't. He regrets it. D says that she always wished that she went to boarding school since her favorite show is "Facts of Life". She wanted to be like the characters in FOL. They start discussing shows like Family Ties and Friends. Ja wants D to update him on Friends since he was watching Survivor last season.

The convo switches to going out in New York since Thursday is a big date night. Li and Ch saying that Thursday is a great date night for New Yorkers. Friday night is when all the people from New Jersey and other places come into town. D is surprised that they would stay out until 2 am on a work night. Ch comments that on Friday, they stay out until 5 or 6 am. D can't believe it.

Ch now telling Ro about her slip up with saying, "Roddy and I would never argue in front our children." Ro says that it was kind of cute. Ja adds, "Ch gets so upset when I call you (Ro) her husband." M jokes, "Ja, you and I won't argue in front of our children."

Things are winding down and M says that he wants to tell G that it bothers him when he sits on his (M) bed. M jokes that he wants to tell G that he is the biggest, scummiest HG in the house. M would be so happy and they all laugh.

Aug 12 2002 05:09, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34667    Link
More G bashing in HRD (long)
D saying that G was imitating her saying "four". M is saying that G was raised by wolves and is married to wolves. D says that she hates G picking up the bunch of grapes and picking the ones he wants. M says that G is like a cat, when you bring out food they come running. D says that she is living with her worst nightmare. She hates people who don't wash their hands. M says that he hates fat people. Ja replies that G is losing weight. M says that he's not losing enough or losing it fast enough. He's a nasty fat man. Li, D, M are laughing like crazy. Ja finally says that he thinks G is a nice guy and will give him the benefit of the doubt. M says that Ja makes them feel so bad since he is so good.

D can't understand why G picks at his feet. M says that he needs to do something about them. D adds that he needs to soak his feet and shave off his thick skin. Li answers that G is an older man who doesn't think to take care of his feet. D says that she tells her dad to cut his toenails all the time. M replies that G's wife should tell him to take care of his feet. Li says that maybe his wife never sees G's feet.

Ja talks about being really careful about handwashing outside the house. However, when they told him about G making the Caesar salad and not washing his hands, he shrugged and figured he didn't die from it. He thought that it was weird since he is so clean outside.

Aug 12 2002 05:20, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34670    Link
Ro explaining why he was upset about the zucchini earlier...
Ro is telling Ch that he is very careful about what he eats in the house. He is conscious about taking food from the group for himself. He chooses to go to bed hungry rather than take food that the group needs to eat. Ch explains that she is looking out for the house and making sure that they have enough for the entire week. R says that she doesn't understand that he is having a physical adversion to the PB. Ch is upset that she didn't know and now understands why Ro was so upset earlier. Ro repeats that he is very conscious about the food.

Aug 12 2002 05:28, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34673    Link
Ro and Ch game talk in HOH (long)
Ro tells Ch that they need to do a little game talk. He asks if it's guaranteed that G is up next week for noms. Ch says that she thinks so. Ro replies that it would be better for them if G stays. Ch thinks that they can work G, but Ro says, "Not like that." Ch asks if Ro talked with M yet. Ro says that they had a little talk and M told him that he (M) would not put up Ro and Ro told M that he would not put up M. They hugged and it was nice. Ro says that it was not a super firm agreement, but it was okay.

They want to keep Ja and D with them a little longer since they are with them. Ro says that Ch played the couples thing right. She has really separated the couples thing by putting up Ro. It works so well for them. Ch says that it would be good if G got HOH. Ro replies that G would clean house. Then they realize the G would not put up M. He would probably put up Li and Ja. Of course, G needs to put up the HG that re-enters. They have to see what happens with HOH. Then the convo turns to eating at McDonalds.

Aug 12 2002 05:45, Mon oldladyForum: 081202 Post: 34676    Link
lisa mar dan talk
Mar said before G sleeps in this room he has too stuff his a## in the lizzaid Cage
everone laugh

Aug 12 2002 05:49, Mon GenieForum: 081202 Post: 34677    Link
Still G bashing in HRD (long)
Coming into the middle of it...M and D are still bashing G about his coughing. G woke them up when he came in to change their battery packs. M says that G did it on purpose. He was freaked out since he doesn't need to see that ugliness in the morning. He adds that he know G was coming he could hear him dragging his big club feet down the hall and coughing. He starts to imitate G coming down the hall...scrape...drag...scrape...drag. They are all laughing. M says that it is worse because he can't say anything to G. D tells him that everything will pour out to G if M starts and they will have to let it go. D adds that she just turns her back when she knows he is coming. D says that she will take their battery packs out so that G can change the battery packs out there and doesn't need to come in while they are sleeping. D goes to take the battery packs outside. When she comes back, she says that she bets $20 that G will change the battery packs and bring them in to each of them and wake them up.

M says that he is going to sleep with his bandana on since he doesn't want to wake up and see the sloth. They are saying that G is so boring and they can't stand it. Li comments that G might try and get into the HRD if someone is kicked out from the HRD. M replies that G already tried it when he mentioned to M that the people who go to sleep early like G and M should sleep in the HRD since it is so dark. M told him unequivically, "No."

Li says that G might try and get in the HRD again since he is feeling close to them now. M says that if G tries, he (M) will stuff him in the lizard cage. Then they joke about turning off the cameras and having murders in the house. They are laughing hysterically while Ja is sleeping. Finally, they go to sleep.

Aug 12 2002 06:04, Mon oldladyForum: 081202 Post: 34680    Link
ch and rod
Rod every med. in this house is elecslsser no assburn
want any thing?
Ch no i have chookies.
Rod you are giving me a hair cut tommorrow
Ch ok
(long talk about the com. Ch ask Rod you are going to throw it)
They are singing Barnny then I Love You song. now laughing

ch ask if the way i clean does that scarre you
Rod no
Ch eatting normal came back it is three it says it on the miccrowave
Rod wants to hid the miccrowave cause they now know it is three in the morning


Aug 12 2002 06:31, Mon oldladyForum: 081202 Post: 34684    Link
Sleeping ............or resting
Dan in her bed; jason in his bed; Mar and Lisa in a bed then in the Hoh room
Rod and Charir togather and the last room with the Lizzards Gerry in his bed and Josh in his. Borring Gonight to the all till monring. Veto Meeting later today rest guys.

Aug 12 2002 10:01, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 34760    Link
G awake, in bathroom doing morning routine. F2, F1&F3 on sleeping people, F4 on courtyard: empty of people NT

Aug 12 2002 10:36, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 34804    Link
F1: Gerry on elliptical machine, all other feeds on sleeping HGs NT

Aug 12 2002 11:33, Mon TurrboleeForum: 081202 Post: 34864    Link
G doing something by pool, M up in bathroom, other HG's still sleeping NT

Aug 12 2002 12:41, Mon TurboForum: 081202 Post: 35019    Link
M has hygiene discussion w/ G TEXT
M: I got up early because I want to put something out to you. It has to do with the house seeing you as hygienically challenged.
G: Are you a spokesperson or is this just coming from you.
M: This is just coming from me and I won't be repeating this to anyone saying that I told Gerry this and that.
G: Okay
M: The coughing thing, people don't want you to cook because you cough over the food and some are offended because you're washing some clothes in the kitchen sink, I'm a germophobe and I've never seen you do that but others have. Just tell me if you want me to stop and I will.
G: No, please go on, I thought I was watching my coughing by walking around and making sure I had something to cough into.
M: You work out and you're all sweaty and people still don't think you are washing your hands enough. I don't want this to be like an Amy thing where people were always talking about her being drunk. If you get put up it should be for better reasons than hygiene.
G: Is it just some people thinking this?
M: No, it's the whole house. I just want to tell you this so that you don't put yourself into these situations in the future.
G: Thank you for telling me this, I appreciate it.

Aug 12 2002 13:01, Mon TurboForum: 081202 Post: 35077    Link
G talking shower, M playing cards outside, other HG's still asleep, nice shots of microwave NT

Aug 12 2002 13:21, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35138    Link
M & G on patio talking and laughing who they want back in and why
G doesn't think it's a done deal that E is coming back
M is happy for A to leave because she was not here to do work and that she has had 23 weeks to deal with the way she was ready to go and he hopes she comes back because she will be ready to paly the game
G I'd be ok with any of the women who come back
M I don't want T
they're talking about Jo and T
G says T is most likely a revolving door
M Lo might be because she's been gone so long
they both agree that Lo was nothing but nice to them
they're discussing how they voted for each of them and why

Aug 12 2002 13:25, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35159    Link
M saying how upset he was w/ Amy at their private dinner, she drank just to finish the liquor, he was upset NT

Aug 12 2002 13:25, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35164    Link
G and M more
G hopes that he he's the next out that BB does something equivalent for them like they did for others, like he needs his bathroom remodeled
they don't think Jo will get a chnace to come back
wondering why there hasn't been a wake up call
G thinks if they go back and check the videos that he's covered his mouth when coughing & has washed his hands
Now talking about everyone talking about A and drinking. M says he thinks that most of the time the house didn't have enough to get drund but that A ruined their dinner by purposly drinking everything just for the sake of dringking and he drank more that night so she would not drink it all

Aug 12 2002 13:28, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35172    Link
G wants to send floweres to his Mom (calls his wife "Mom" NT

Aug 12 2002 13:28, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35173    Link
G telling M he's sending flowers to his wife next Saturday for anniv., (oops, hope she's not reading here!) NT

Aug 12 2002 13:29, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35177    Link
G saying how to be a substitue teacher you need a BA and must pass CBEST test and you would tell teacher stories NT

Aug 12 2002 13:41, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35212    Link
danielle up brushing teeth NT

Aug 12 2002 13:42, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35218    Link
g telling m that his acting career went better in NY than LA, then foth NT

Aug 12 2002 13:48, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35239    Link
g telling m he thinks he's lost 20 pounds doing the workouts in the house! (ed. he is looking a lot thinner!) NT

Aug 12 2002 13:50, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35246    Link
screen shot of what looks like a big gift with red ribbons NT

Aug 12 2002 13:53, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35253    Link
feed update: F1 & 2: M & G on pation small talk F3 - D walking around F4 Ja fixing hair NT

Aug 12 2002 13:53, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35256    Link
f1 & 2, g & m talking on patio, f3 dani moving about house, f4 jason in bathroom getting cleaned up NT

Aug 12 2002 13:55, Mon ktanForum: 081202 Post: 35262    Link
F3: Danielle bringing out paper towels, cleaning, and hygiene products from storage room. NT

Aug 12 2002 13:56, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35263    Link
G says M I want to thank you it's been a very enjoyable morning. M agrees NT

Aug 12 2002 13:58, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35267    Link
G and M are talking about A not wanting to be seen w/o makeup. Think she very pretty even w/o it NT

Aug 12 2002 13:58, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35268    Link
bb3 - 'hg's please pull the shades'... NT

Aug 12 2002 14:01, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35280    Link
BB just gave wake up call NT

Aug 12 2002 14:02, Mon hohumForum: 081202 Post: 35284    Link
POV meeting in one hour NT

Aug 12 2002 14:10, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35310    Link
M & D strategy
M thinks R is trying to drop Chi like a hot potatoe because he knows the couple thing is hurting
they resent Chi running the house and D wants to tell her it's our house
M says don't tell her show her with your vote

Aug 12 2002 14:11, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35317    Link
M says "It's only Monday, I just want to get to Thursday night" NT

Aug 12 2002 14:17, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35328    Link
FOH NT

Aug 12 2002 14:19, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35335    Link
D & M talking about eggs like it's the same as an abortion. NT

Aug 12 2002 14:24, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35351    Link
D M L talking about who goes next week
talking about R vs Chi
L wants R to go
M want chi out cause she lied
trying to figure out how much money R has
L says R was a bartender up till first of year and then he got a book deal
L makes joke she thinks he (R) needs to go because of his money (laughing)
FOH

Aug 12 2002 14:27, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35361    Link
M L & D talking about saying grace before dinner. D says theres nothing wrong with it. In old Testement they always gave thanks NT

Aug 12 2002 16:05, Mon RantoForum: 081202 Post: 35656  ParentRootLink
What's miossing from this comment is that it was preceded by complaints that Josh didn't participate in the prayer. NT

Aug 12 2002 14:28, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 35369    Link
Dani & Li whisper about R
Dani and Li whispering about R. D ani says, "How come he never works? Does he have money or something?" She says how he says he gets up at 8 or 9 or 10 every morning to watch some show and she wants to know why he an live such a leisurely lifestyle. Li says that R was a bartender until the beginning of this year when he got a one script deal and FOTH

Aug 12 2002 14:33, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35383    Link
M says if he gets next HOH he's turning it all over to D cause she needs some perm on 'dat head' NT

Aug 12 2002 15:04, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35471    Link
small talk
M says Swan Lake was the most amazing thing he ever saw
D say Gymnastics is the most amazing how people can flip and turn
FOH

Aug 12 2002 15:25, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35551    Link
feeds back HG playing cards on patio NT

Aug 12 2002 15:28, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35559    Link
L & R
R I feel no obligation to appease the f***** unwashed masses
he says he heard that somewhere
they both walk away

Aug 12 2002 15:42, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 35603  ParentRootLink
it was C & R not L NT

Aug 12 2002 15:29, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35567    Link
R goes outside, M walks through house and goes back out, L is in dining room NT

Aug 12 2002 15:30, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35570    Link
Jo is alone in bedroom NT

Aug 12 2002 15:32, Mon ktanForum: 081202 Post: 35573    Link
1/2: Everyone but Josh is outside playing cards. Josh is sleeping on 3/4. Jason thinks the veto meeting will be cut off show. NT

Aug 12 2002 15:42, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35604    Link
all feeds on patio and HG playing cards NT

Aug 12 2002 15:45, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35611    Link
They're making light hearted banter about black / white sterotypes NT

Aug 12 2002 15:54, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35630    Link
Telling funny story about Bill Cosby and Ray Charles
Bill went to Ran's room and Ray went in first and didn't turn on the light. Bill wanted to be polite so he didn't either and they were bumping around and Ray say what are you doing. Bill said theres no light. And Ray said " Well, TURN THE LIGHT ON"

Aug 12 2002 15:58, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 35639    Link
Josh and Roddy in kitchen...
Jo says to R that he really hopes he doesn't follow C in blind faith the rest of his stay in the house
R is making reference to something that was asked in DR. He is purposely being allusive. Says to J that if J can remember what the question is, it will answer a lot of his questions. If J can't, R will tell him when they get out. R says emotions are one thing. R says thanks to Jo and that he appreciates the advice

L walks in and convo stops

Aug 12 2002 15:59, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 35642    Link
Zero conversation between Jo and L when R leaves kitchen NT

Aug 12 2002 16:02, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 35649    Link
No convo between Jo and M either. Seems like everyone is pretending he doesn't exist. NT

Aug 12 2002 16:04, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35653    Link
They talking about how they should make anyone who tattles wear a tail for tallletale like some teachers did in elementary school NT

Aug 12 2002 16:05, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 35659    Link
C and D in kitchen putting things away. Josh making pancakes. Still no covo with Josh. NT

Aug 12 2002 16:07, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 35669    Link
Jo eating his pancakes in his room. It's a bit sad to watch. NT

Aug 12 2002 16:10, Mon tweetybirdForum: 081202 Post: 35685    Link
a little bit of this and a little bit of that (snippets of conversations)
all hgs but josh sitting at outside table.

marcellus..fat albert set us back. they played in the junk yard! (laughter)
...
general talk on fat albert and imitations of the characters by danni and others.
roddy has hat on backwards, like a kid.
ma talks about eddie murphy swearing, bill cosby, (laughter)
ro..tells story abut bill cosby and ray charles (how when visiting charles he didn't turn light on and he starts to trip around and ray charles tells him to turn the frickin light on)
ma..has seen ray charles live show
...
talking about how people approach Charles, and they start yelling at him as they approach him (laughter) someone says ..hey, he's blind not deaf.
...
da..i used to love white shadow (lots of agreement)
...

switching feeds to see Josh in kitchen
roddy comes in
jo..i really hope you don't follow that f*ckin girl around, bro. i hope she doesn't do to you what she's done to me.
ro is silent
jo, stirring something...
ro..i'm not going to say it out loud, the other day they asked something in the diary room, and if you can figure out what that was you'll have your answer.
emotions are one thing, but...
jo..you get to eliminate one vote, and that person doesn't get to vote (i don't know what this was about)
they are both talking in inuendo, references they only know, and mouthing words. hard to follow.

Lisa comes in to kitchen and starts rinsing a few dishes, and getting something. She leaves again, goes to hrd.

Josh fixing pancakes looks like on one feed.

he goes to tiki room and eats, sitting on the bed, alone.


Aug 12 2002 19:18, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 36171  ParentRootLink
re: eliminating vote
Didn't last years guests get to eliminate one persons vote before the final selection of the winner. I remember Shannon was not able to vote for Will!

Aug 12 2002 16:17, Mon PhantomForum: 081202 Post: 35707    Link
F 4: Josh is now sitting with his only friend - the lizard. (The other one didn't want to be with him either) NT

Aug 12 2002 16:18, Mon PhantomForum: 081202 Post: 35715  ParentRootLink
The lizard seems to be finding something to eat on the cot. Are there still bugs in that room? (They had ants last year) NT

Aug 12 2002 16:17, Mon tweetybirdForum: 081202 Post: 35708    Link
a little bit more...
ch. we have a lot of moma's boys in this house
da..obviously.
someone mentions laying out today
some talk about salad stuff
da..my oldest girl hates salad
ch washing dishes
da..i want to see a movie so bad its not funny
li..that would be a good america's choice

feed switches to josh all alone looking at a cot, sitting on cot, looking at lizard crawl around cot.

feed on josh but can hear danni and lisa and chiara talk about movies in kitchen on the audio.

Aug 12 2002 16:21, Mon StarkForum: 081202 Post: 35722    Link
Cards (Very Long)
G: its always fun to drive across the desert with a waterbag hanging over the radiator, its not only for the radiator but for you if your car breaks donw

Ja; is it your turn

M: I have to figure out how to get 21, I can only get 18 right now

Ja: oh

M: anyway there you are I’m in

Ja; yeah ok, 3 queens

D: you guys want some cucumbers

Ja: yes please, thank you dani

G: thanks

D: your welcome

M: gerry is it you

G: yeah

Ja: move it along

G: ok

M: that 10 9 8 is going the wrong way

G: there happy

M: you f***ed up

G: no I didn’t

M: yeah you did

G: I was just trying to decide how to do this (starts laying down stuff)

G: that’s off diamonds or spades right

M: right

M: no you pulled that jack of diamonds so you have to replace it with a diamond

Ja; no he kept it as a jack of diamonds, hes fine

G: yeah

M: no I want a ruling, roddy (explains it)

R: yes you have to play it

Ja: no he kept it as same thing

R: if you pick it up it only becomes wild when you put another one down for it

Ja: no no it never had to become wild

R: you have to physically replace it

G: ok fine I’ll physically replace it (still got to play several cards)

M: cheater

G: et tu, et tu marcellas, ok I’m suspended

M: ok

Ja; wow

M: you ain’t going to win, you aren’t ever going to win, you all don’t have a chance

G: not with Marcellas in the hosue?

Ja: I hear you

G: did you change that diamond

M: what this was a jack, oh wait I see what you are trying to do

Ja: no he moved it over there…

M: no he was messing with him about me calling him,

G: marcellas knew what I was doing

Ja: oh I didn’t get it

Ja; I’ll umm….i’ll…

M: yeah good for you

Ja: gerry…um…wait a second, gerrry on to you

G: ok, lets see what the easiet way is and its very…umm…..darn slop in my hand….ahhh

G: hmm…hmmm…uh…hm…

M: I have to change my outfit if I’m going to stay out in this heat

Ja; your right

G: why was I going to go that way, well if I do this and this and…

Ja; nothing you can do with that one

G: I was thinking that I had a plot in mind and what was I thinking

Ja: think times running out here

G: marcellas is using up my thought time, guess I’ll do this then

M: I wasn’t even thinkingn about you

G: you were thinking about something more important, yourself right, right, its ok

M: dammit dammit

G: sometimes I do the stupidest stuff

Ja: alright, 3 4s, Gerry on to you

G: oh ok

G: that one there, 8, 9, 10, Jack, Queen….that’s it, marcellas

M: (starts playing, gerry moves a plate out of the way)

G: I wonder if these cucumbers are really good for you, they have so much water

Ja: they arent’ a postivie or negative really

G: yeah I saw some diets let you have them, I used to have a garden near me when I was little and you could go up and get fresh ones and eat.

M: I’ll allow the play to continue to Jason

Ja: I’ll do these fives off of Gerry

M: ok


Aug 12 2002 16:23, Mon tweetybirdForum: 081202 Post: 35727    Link
the girls in the kitchen just said that Gerry has his own bowl (for popcorn) lol (after someone asked Did Gerry put his hand in that?) NT

Aug 12 2002 16:31, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35751    Link
L is cleaning the lizard cage, talks to Jo. BB tells Jo "put on your mic" L says cause the conversation your're having w/lizard is so important NT

Aug 12 2002 16:32, Mon StarkForum: 081202 Post: 35755    Link
Returning HG Speculation // Cards // Chiara's pictures from home (Very Long)
M: are you learning things

Ja; oh yes

M: if your lying then your brilliant, all the lies we will see after we get out of house and all the backbiting DR

Ja; yeah after the HOH they were asking me about something that happened to amy and I was like what? I guess that’s something about amy and then I told them she has one of the best shots to walk back in the house, she always did a good job in the competitons

G: let me look real quickly

G: no

D: last cucumber

Ja: yours

D: I don’t want it, nice and refreshing isn’t it

Ja: yes

Ja: nice

G: ok

M: the whole point of that transaction

G: yeah you get into a transaction and…

M: oh yea that clears that up so I can put that down and I can take that over here

Ja: nice, brilliant

M: I know this is extremely long

Ja: no its fine,

G: yeah you can have time to straighten it up, we won’t rag you about that

M: back to the lesson at hand

Ja: (starts a short beat, gerry picks it up and does it lounder)

M: line

G: line

M: yeah the line, that’s gone, I’m spent has been retired, I’m broughten has been broughten (think I heard that wrong)

M: we are talking about retired lines in the house

D: broughten

M: no we did that, and lying and bring it and I’m spent

D: I still say that

M: yeah we got tired of them

G: yeah that’s point

M: I don’t mean to be condescending

D: wait?

M: not you, that was roddy

D: was it?

M: yeah

D: what do we do tomorrow, nothing?

G: yeah tomorrow is the toughie

D: well we can sleep all day

G: yeah

M: I’ll lay out

D: in the sun

M: yeah

M: that hasn’t got as widespread as it could, I hate when one line becomes all used

G: I hate to say it, but that’s the old Jay

R: the old jay’s back

M: roddy we are talking about old lines in the hosue

G: if we are long enough we can have a retro

M: well not a retro but

G: well it could be Classic BB3

R: yeah, Classic Retro BB3

M: its you boo

C: isn’t that funny

D: you all hae same necklace eh

C: close

D: I wish I had a friend like that growing up


C: I have a picture of my best friend Shannon

D: well why don’t you bring it up

C: I said can I have a picture of my friend Shannon, shes my beest friend, and when I came back in there they were all on the wall

BB: josh, please put on your microphone

C: that’s easter Sunday at the club

D: you didn’t need to tell me I could tell by the dress and the hats and the gloves

C: really

R: yeah on the tailpipe of the car, that’s how short I was I hit my self on the tailpipe of the car.

C: that’s so funny

R: kiki, is (hard to hear, he/C/D aren’t even on the screen)

C: oh I asked for a picture of my best friend, heres some they gave me,

M: whose this one

C: Catherine

M: why do you have the party dresses

C: no no its easter

M: oh easter

L: laying out towels

C: nope, they are over there

M: they are so cute

C: isn’t that cute

Ja: its awesome

Aug 12 2002 16:33, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35758    Link
Jo is on cot crying, says good thing I got that microphone NT

Aug 12 2002 16:34, Mon tweetybirdForum: 081202 Post: 35761    Link
ch says she wants to "kill someone"; gets 2 new photographs in hoh room
ch ..i think i'll listen to a few songs and ..think..about how much i want to kill someone.
li..(inaudible)
ch..goes to hoh, saying ..i'll be right out..listen to one song.

feed switches to josh (hmm..i think the producer has a sense of humor)

feed switches back to ch in hoh, looking at her pictures of her friends
she doesn't listen to music and goes outside to where Roddy and Danni are sitting on grass

ch..they put two new pictures in my room

bb..Josh, please put on your microphone
goes over to table where mar, jas, gerry are and tells them about the pics

ch..my friend and me in 2nd grade and when we were in college.

pics get passed around table and oohs and ahha and "that's cute" etc.

Aug 12 2002 16:35, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35763    Link
G just spoke to Jo about the heat lamps in the lizzard cage (maybe they're sorry for him and trying to be nice) NT

Aug 12 2002 16:37, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35767    Link
Josh seems to be cheering up, He's talking to the lizzards in a more cheerful voice NT

Aug 12 2002 16:39, Mon tweetybirdForum: 081202 Post: 35776    Link
lizard gets away briefly; gets scolded by josh
lizard went behind furniture in tiki room and gerry had to help josh move it, so then when josh scooped it up and told it you're a wise ass and now you're going back in the tank.

Gerry leaves josh without saying anything.

josh now back inside covers, in bed.

Aug 12 2002 16:42, Mon tweetybirdForum: 081202 Post: 35785    Link
bb: roddy, please put on your microphone NT

Aug 12 2002 16:48, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35797    Link
R says I don't think we're going to have a love in for the person being voted out
D asks him to clarify what he means and he said like how they did for A and for L&E
D says we're all human beings but when we're in here we can't have any compassion but I hate to feel that way because I'm not like that. She goes on about how she says that in the DR and how he had not done nothing to her personally
R says yes he has and reminds her of how Jo told D that R was coming after her and started stuff
L says thats why she just talked to him in the lizzard room
D yeah does he deserve compassion NO but someone has to be the bigger person

Aug 12 2002 16:49, Mon StarkForum: 081202 Post: 35798    Link
Roddy's Mind Trick // On whether to hold a Amy style love-in for Josh (LONG)
D: she was married to Dolph Lundren

L: who was that

R: rocky 4

D: yeah rocky 4 the guy who killed Apollo

L: oh I was thinking of (trails off)

D: I never pictured him as growing old with someone

L: who rocky

D: Stallone

L: yeah, and he had so many surgeries though

D: this looks good, the waters pretty cool, oh yeah

D: (starts humming, then starts singing and trails off, splashs water a bit)

(Roddy is laying on his back on a pink towel, about 4-5 feet to his left is lisa laying on
her back in a black bikini on a yellow towel, her legs are up, Danielle is sitting on the edge of the pol with her feed dangling in the pool)

D: this will be the longest week ever

R: I think its moving along well as compared to the way it started

D: I was talking about those two days, we are done till wed when we get practice, then
Thursday we get a new HG

R: you can almost bet that we will be on peanut butter on Friday

D: how do you know that

R: well to make this week better, I’ve told myself that 100% I will be on th peanut
butter…

BB: roddy please put on your microphone

R: its your fault, jay

R: well its so much more bearable to ignore the emotional piece if I think how good the
physical side is

D: was it that bad

R: it was bad but it did sling me into that 9 slice of pizza and suishi night

D: that suishi was so good, hopefully they will give us something good this week,
hopefully, jay said something like a house party for the returning guest

R: I don’t’ think the lovely lovein will happen this week

D: that only started with amy

R: I mean I don’t think we will have one

L: that wen twell I don’t like it

R: with josh

L: I meant with who was coming in

D: Jason brought that up

L: yeah we talked about it, to have something nice to say

D: I was like Switzerland, you know what I mean

R: yeah, but its tough to be nice to people taking shots at everyone

D: we are all people though, and you can’t help when someone is down not to have a
touch of compassion, all though that person made their bed and has to lie in it, its still and
uncomfortable bed, and I hate for them to have to be in it, that’s just how I am, you know

R: yeah

D: does he deserve it, yeah he does, but someone has to be the bigger person.

D: but on the other hand, he hasn’t done anything to me personally, so I relate to this
different that others have

R: I don’t want to play a game of pileup but he has

D: gone after me?

R: yes when he said I was going after you, that was a lie to get us to go at it, so yes he
artificially tried to get you to start a fight

D: oh ok, your right, but does he deserve any harshness

L: its nota deserve thing, but its just hard to talk to him, when I went in there for the
lizards, I had to talk to him and it was hard to keep it up

D: yeah someone has to be the bigger man or woman

Aug 12 2002 17:03, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35840    Link
Chi and D are talking about the last movement they had, D needs one, Chi regular daily NT

Aug 12 2002 17:17, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35863    Link
feed FOH NT

Aug 12 2002 17:31, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35896    Link
f1&2 Ja in pool, other HG sunning F3&4 Jo in bedroom, has lizzard in dresser NT

Aug 12 2002 17:36, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35905    Link
G tells of a movie about Jesus's crucifixion with Sidney Pointe and John Wayne that was so bad it was good NT

Aug 12 2002 17:43, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 35923  ParentRootLink
They're discussing "The Greatest Story Ever Told" with Sidney Poitier, John Wayne, and a lot of other cameos. NT

Aug 12 2002 17:45, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 35929    Link
Josh was playing cards by himself on the bed w/ lizard nearby. Now Josh is under covers and staring. Looks very depressed. NT

Aug 12 2002 17:58, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 35952    Link
Josh just replaced one of the lizards, so I guess we won't have the thrill of seeing them run around the house. The other is in the drawer NT

Aug 12 2002 18:08, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35978    Link
all feeds Jo and lizzards NT

Aug 12 2002 18:10, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 35987    Link
HG are talking about the term malado(sp?) being a slave term. They don't think it's a good term. NT

Aug 12 2002 18:19, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36016  ParentRootLink
Mar feels the term Mulatto is now politically incorrect. His sister's children are of mixed parentage, and she ...
doesn't like the term used in reference to her children. Dani says Anne Rice uses the word in a lot of her books. Gerry surmises that this is due to the fact that she is writing about the ante-bellum south or that it has to do with her being from New Orleans.

Aug 12 2002 18:16, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36007    Link
R wonders if you could make a binding contract
he says he wonders if they could go into the DR and make a verbal contract that if they agreed to pay someone a certain amount it that would be binding since they don't have a pen
G says he thinks it might
R says we ought to find out
now they're talking about working out (they're in the yard)
R says he's going to read and ask Chi "Is your door open, hon?"

Aug 12 2002 18:19, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36015    Link
chi & D
talking about Jo and the strategy about Jo and R being up and how Jo acted about it
M comes out and Chi ask how his nap was
Now they're talking about how guys wake up every morning
M says they don't wake up that way every morning

Aug 12 2002 18:23, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36023    Link
D says only HG in house to not have HOH
is D Ja and Jo. and that there were no repeat HOH except they agree that Chi and R seem like a repeat

Aug 12 2002 18:26, Mon tweetybirdForum: 081202 Post: 36030    Link
the lion sleeps tonight, convo
BB: chiara, please go to the diary room.

roddy: well, the lion sleeps now (i think referring to josh)

(outside near pool)
da..myself jason and josh are only people left in the house who hasn't had hoh.

li..i had tonya in my bed all the time, right.

how about mar and amy?
da. yea amy moved in with marcellus
mar..she was in there more than i was (laughter)

now talk of incoming hg(s)
jason wants to hear about the outside world

...

Aug 12 2002 18:37, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 36056    Link
Talking Toons
Talking about their favourite cartoons of all time.

Aug 12 2002 18:39, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 36062    Link
Cartoon talk continues
Marc loved Speedracer. Dan liked UltraMan and the X-men. Mar agrees and loves PowerPuff Girls. Jason gets called into diary room.

Aug 12 2002 18:41, Mon RavenLaRueForum: 081202 Post: 36069    Link
Toon Town at BB3 house
D- Look, a black person in a swimming pool. Get it on camera.

Li says M looks so refreshing, like an advertisement for Zima or something. Then they all say no, Citrona!

Chi is in Dr. others wonder if they will be asked about POV. But, Lili says it mostly centered around Jo, Chi, R, and LI so they are the ones who will be asked . the others were just spectators.

Ja- favorite cartoon is scooby doo.
Mar and D-- fave cartoon is super friends and Josey and the pussycats.

M is seeking the theme song. (where is a FOTH when you need one)
D loved Transformers too she says she was a very violent child.

M loved also the space family one with a flying dinosaur (?)
the father was strong and gruff the mom was beautiful. the son took after the mother.

Plastic man had a dog Plastic man wore shades. Now on to Captain Caveman.
Jabberjaw was gigantic shark that played drums.
Speed buggy was a talking dune buggy
Speed Racer had a car that didn't talk. Racer X was his brother.

Ma is now singing speed racer theme song.
He would race home from school to watch Speed racer.

Powder puff girls, now. M likes them Ja has never seen it.

Jason to the DR>

posting.



Aug 12 2002 18:49, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36097    Link
HG talking about fast food, MacDonalds. G wants another week of Subway NT

Aug 12 2002 19:09, Mon RavenLaRueForum: 081202 Post: 36147    Link
movies, actors and casting
G in a papasan chair
M correcting Li Li's card playing.
Talk goes back to movies, stars, and who they would cast
Melanie Griffith is a nightmare they say. Her lips are horrible. Back in the day, she was beautiful. Talking about Paradise with Melanie, Don, and Elija woods. M loved the movie.
Talking about elijah in radio flyer now. T Cruse did the voice over in it.
M says the last story he did before they absconded with him was a highend badlands.
Jude law could be Freddie Mercury if they do the movie.
M loves jude law. So, does Chi.
Gatika (phon) nothings better than uma in that movie.
M loved great expectations and loved ethan hawke in the movie.
chi agrees.
now all screens inside to Ja
back outside.
Chi saying something about robin williams and cuba gooding jr
"what dreams may come" Li LI loves that movie. Ja has soy pups to eat.
G is quoting something. M answer "jude law" Great expectations movie with Gweneth . M wants to have artwork by Franseco ? If he lives long enough to have enough money to own franseco's art he will be happy.
Rupert has a home in Miami M wants to be with him. Not because Rupert is rich, but because he is so handsome.
anne bancroft as gwyneths aunt was perfect casting. no one wants movies like that Chi says, they only want "Big Mama's House"
posting

Aug 12 2002 19:15, Mon RavenLaRueForum: 081202 Post: 36157    Link
More movies
The talented Mr. Ripley is like a rite of passage for a gay man, according to M. Jude law was a phenomenal DIckie. The writer had to have passed Jude law on the street and said, Dickie? Jude law!

The boy who Ripley fell in love with the end was a nothing, casting-wise. Why, M wants to know. There were so many possibilities for that role, says M.
Ja says, you talking about Ripley? He hasn't seen it yet but wants to.
Chi is talking about the Big Lobowski and Almost Famous
M is saying he couldn't get past his physicality (missed who they are talking about)
Chi is talking about wealthy kids are not always the most attractive kids and that's why she likes this guy in the movies and the casting of him in those movies.

posting




Aug 12 2002 19:16, Mon StarkForum: 081202 Post: 36160    Link
Movie Discussion (Long)
M: jude law was great in Gattaca, and oh Uma Thurman was amazing in that sceen looking all 40ish style actress

M: oh and ethan hawke was good in that movie to

L: yeah but it didn’t do very well people said they didn’t get it

M: wahts not there to got

G: I totally got it I liked it

L: yah I liked it to

(feed changes inside, no audio)

(back inside)

L: I liked what dreams may come, did you see that

Ja: no what is it

L: oh it was amazing, scary amazing

G: oh we have shuffled off to…

(feed goes inside)

L: jude law (laughs)

M: jude law as Jude Law, jude Law stores as Jude Law in JudeLaw the Movie

(missed some)

M: I’d date George Michaels in a second or Rupert Evans, hes not that rich though as he don’t work that much, though he has that house in (French sounding town name)

C: did you see that movie better off dead

M: I did see better off dead cause he ends up…

C: trying to kill himself because of that girl

M: what else do I like, I love Great Expectations, it was so well cast I loved that aunt of Gwenth paltrow

C: yeah it was so well cast, it didn’t get half what it deserved I guess cause everyone wants Mama’s house

M: I loved that movie

C: yeah it was brilliant and so well written

M: yeah I bought the cd and it became one of my favorites, I liked how it looked it got New york city exactly right

C: Did you like Vanilla sky

M: it was good and I got it, I liked Minority report

C: was it good

M: it was great, though it was a companioin novel to AI

C: who directed that

M: steven spielberg, though ai he had gotten from stanely kubrik and it had jude law in it and I loved that.

M: I loved the book Talented Mr. Ripley, every gay guy loves to read this, it has all three stories in it….the movie was very good very well cast except the guy he fell in love with at the end was nothing, I mean you couldn’t hire someone fine, and the book gave a reason he loved him

C: yeah and that wasn’t’ in the book

Ja: oh Talented mr. Riplye, I didn’t see it but david sagger liked it

C: did you see Big lebowski (said something about it and its actors)

M: wait aminute who was he in Almost Famous

C: he was the clerk

(Marcellas now go into a fast paced overlappin tirade against ugliness, marcellas talks of a book that he could not get into because the main char was ugly and marcellas can’t stand that and chiara talks about how ugly people can be a detracting though that does make it more believable, marcellas back to he couldn’t get into the book though as he wanted them all to be beautiful)

Aug 12 2002 19:19, Mon StarkForum: 081202 Post: 36173    Link
Houseguests were just given Croquet, Darts, and a Board game NT

Aug 12 2002 19:22, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36187    Link
They've got new games! Cathedral and a dart board. I guess the BB3 crew were as bored as we were today. NT

Aug 12 2002 19:39, Mon StarkForum: 081202 Post: 36219    Link
Strategy // Creepy Picture // Flea-ridden house (Long)
M: hes doing really good with it htough, the dirty stuff is bouncing back on her

D: we were open to that, you know what I mean

M: right

D:that’s the only thing

D: I’m way ahead of her, I’m like slow down, I really hope she gets HOH

M: do you, why?

D: she will put both of them up

D: don’t you tell gerry

M: I was still under the idea that I was goin to put him up

D: did you tell him you would put chiara and roddy up

M: are you kidding, no I don’t know where he got that and hes just another guy for roddy, I’m like Jaba (the hut) please shut the f*** up

M: I know whos coming back in this house

D: oh yeah that too

M: I love that picture of Eric and Lisa, but that creeps me out (the hammock one)

D: why

M: cause that means they have every single moment of our lives

D: yeah they see it all

D: you love the nasty moments to you dirtly little boy

M: I’m a dir-tee dir-tee little boy

D: don’t’ we get some hot august nights out here

M: I don’t’ know

D: we used to get really hot Indian summer nights wehre you can’t sleep cause it gets hot at night

M: boy theres a big spiderweb across that thing

D: better not be a spider

M: no

D: I got bit by something, oh I hate fleas, have you ever lived anywhere that was infested with fleas

M: no

D: its horrible its just the worst

M: I had a friend that brought in a a stray and they had the biggest bites from the bugs it had, and they named it Lucky but it was nothing but unlucky

D: haha, that’s so funny

M: it was a dobermon

D: really

M: yeah

D: we lived in this one place with a cat, it went in and out in and out and it had so many fleas that you could look at the rug and you would see them jumping, I put on some socks and saw four of them already in it and I told dad and he said look at the bathroom bug and I was like dog gone…he said don’t worry I’ll get it and he bought a ton of bombs and stuff. Cats too will bring back vermin back to you to please you

M: do they

D; oh yeah they will kill a mouse and bring it and set it down in front of you and smile

M: I had heard that but didn’t know they really did that


Aug 12 2002 19:43, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36234    Link
Dani's Aunt Portia did time in jail for shooting someone. M thought the aunt was named after the car! NT

Aug 12 2002 19:58, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 36252    Link
Just heard that Lisa DID NOT use POV. nt

Aug 12 2002 20:11, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36271    Link
Dani and Mar gigglefest for the past half hour. Talking about 'odd' family members and using the word 'ghetto' over and over, again. NT

Aug 12 2002 20:15, Mon terrylynnnForum: 081202 Post: 36282    Link
Chiara just got mad at roddy for not hugging her when she needed him in the middle of the night or something, I mean she really seemed pissed.
he told a story about a past girlfriend who needed to be touched all the time and he left her. and then she was really pissed saying im not going to be a shadow of your other girlfriends.

Aug 12 2002 20:23, Mon I'mMeForum: 081202 Post: 36302    Link
Lisa did not use POV and Josh FLIPPED OUT! nt

Aug 12 2002 20:45, Mon BolaForum: 081202 Post: 36346    Link
Josh playing B-Ball, M and Ja sleeping in HRD...
Gerry sleeping in the hammock. R,D,L, and C are outside on the patio talkign about food, horseradish(sp?), appetizers, jewelry... nothing exciting, no plotting.

Aug 12 2002 20:58, Mon PhantomForum: 081202 Post: 36376    Link
Broken statement from Gerry to Marc (did anyone get a better version?)
"I was just in the DR . . . siting on that bench .. .You're a sell out Gerry . . . It wasn't the f***in truth."

Aug 12 2002 21:19, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36416    Link
Jo left the bedroom, in the kitchen NT

Aug 12 2002 21:30, Mon bbdudeForum: 081202 Post: 36436    Link
chiara's drug class
C is discussing all sorts of drugs. The summer she and her friends were doing ecstasy every night- one time they were on ecstasy and G(GBH) and a girl went into "rigor mortis" and they were worried she was going to die- but she was OK the next day. Then she talks about K (ketamine) and the trouble is you can fall into a "K-hole" and feel like you can't get out. Danielle is pretty horrified, saying she is a mother. Gerry weighs in with a statement that "Just say no" is pretty good, but you can't lump all drugs together.

Aug 12 2002 21:32, Mon mosiegirl2Forum: 081202 Post: 36441    Link
josh playing solitaire all alone in the bedroom on the bed against the wall.. NT

Aug 12 2002 21:39, Mon fefiForum: 081202 Post: 36468    Link
Three hour late post (sorry), In the kitchen was L, Ch and G. Ch just came out of the DR. Made a comment that was hard to hear, but
something about the live show and the DR being concerned about it. She was referring to Josh, because G made a comment, again hard to hear, but that he felt basically anything could happen with J. Did anyone else catch this?

Also, could the poster of the suppossed Josh flipping out after POV please further explain it on the P/X

Aug 12 2002 21:43, Mon mosiegirl2Forum: 081202 Post: 36484    Link
three girls playing darts in the hallway discussing roddy and discussing drugs - dani is actually pretty good ! NT

Aug 12 2002 21:48, Mon ElikaForum: 081202 Post: 36500    Link
L & D in kitchen. G, R, and C working out. Don't know about the rest. NT

Aug 12 2002 22:00, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36545    Link
R is telling Chi is view about the drug conversation they had earlier, he said he didn't want to contradict her but
he said there are people who will do it whether it's the law or not, people who won't do anything because it's against the law or that it's wrong. Then there are people in the middle, like him which is probably most people.

Aug 12 2002 22:12, Mon ElikaForum: 081202 Post: 36581    Link
C and L discussing current and former relationships in general. NT

Aug 12 2002 22:16, Mon AnonymousForum: 081202 Post: 36597    Link
lisa and chiapet discuss chia's old boyfriend and how she used to be very inhibited with him, also how he threw her a huge dinner party at serifino NT

Aug 12 2002 22:17, Mon terrylynnnForum: 081202 Post: 36603    Link
Also discussing the rich guy and her sex life and how he stopped in the middle of intercourse and said he was tired. NT

Aug 12 2002 22:32, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36649    Link
D just went in and offered Jo something to eat. Jo still acts depressed NT

Aug 12 2002 22:37, Mon PhantomForum: 081202 Post: 36667    Link
Dani says to Marc, "If I made you a beef hot dog with love, would you eat it?"
"Yes" Some discussion of we only have 7 bowls (of something), and if that greedy #$% hadn't had one yesterday . . .Another Feed shows Josh on his bed with a bowl of something beside him.

Aug 12 2002 22:44, Mon ElikaForum: 081202 Post: 36685    Link
Joshie
Went out to get some bread and veggies. They asked if he would stay, but he said he had to hurry back because he has the little guy out. But constant feed on camera 2, and there is no lizard out, that I can see.

Aug 12 2002 22:48, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36698  ParentRootLink
One of the lizards is in the drawer next to Josh's bed, and has been there all day. NT

Aug 12 2002 22:54, Mon KpowForum: 081202 Post: 36719    Link
BB gave HGs tapes of Years One and Two of house (more inside)
They're talking about previous years of the show. Someone asks Ja if he was as into Year One as Year Two. He said yeah, he was. Ja explains about getting to know the characters in house over the first few weeks and compares it to a television show that you start watching and become familiar with. Ja says that there weren't many in house to like or root for last year. Dani chimes in with that they were all rotten. Talking about the waitress who left the first week ("Autumn?" they think) who was down with Hardy. While trying to confirm the names of these two, Lisa says that the only BB she watched was "the tapes that they gave us."

Aug 12 2002 23:25, Mon terrylynnnForum: 081202 Post: 36805    Link
All the girls sitting around with chiapet wondering if she can catch pms from lisa and dani?! ithink shes just always like that NT

Aug 12 2002 23:37, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36834    Link
Josh has briefly ended his seclusion and chatting with Jason. His perspective has changed, and probably won't marry Mer. right now. NT

Aug 12 2002 23:37, Mon LolaForum: 081202 Post: 36835    Link
Jo comes out of seclusion and makes a statement "Clearly, who you are, is who you are" NT

Aug 12 2002 23:39, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36844  ParentRootLink
Josh says that if he is the type of person the house believes he is, he doesn't want Merritt to be w/ that type of person. NT

Aug 12 2002 23:37, Mon RantoForum: 081202 Post: 36838    Link
Josh telling Ja that his experience in the house causes him to rethink relationship with Mewwit -- moving away from marriage NT

Aug 12 2002 23:42, Mon RantoForum: 081202 Post: 36848  ParentRootLink
The implication is that seeing himself in the house makes him think that Mewwit deserves someone better. NT

Aug 12 2002 23:38, Mon TurboleeForum: 081202 Post: 36843    Link
Josh and Jason talking in kitchen SHORT
Josh: Can I ask you a question?
Jas: Sure
Jo: Why did you vote Eric out?
Jas: There were lots of reasons but I really don't want to talk about it.
Jo: I'm just curious because everything was set, and then you voted differently
Jas: I already talked to C and R about it, but I really don't want to say cuz I don't want any repercussions.
Jo: I was just curious, you know, I really don't have anyone to talk to they way everyone is
Jas: Well, then let's talk, talk about something like maybe Merrit will be there when you get out

Aug 12 2002 23:43, Mon MirageForum: 081202 Post: 36850    Link
Jo feels if people were actually playing the game, he wouldn't be the one going out. People are more concerned
with keeping things on an even keel, and not looking toward the point of the game.

Aug 12 2002 23:48, Mon Tool of SocietyForum: 081202 Post: 36861    Link
Josh says his girlfriend can do better than him. NT


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