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Aug 17 2002 00:02, Sat listexForum: 081702 Post: 45310    Link
Feed 1 through 4 all on Lisa and Danielle in the dining room...
at the table, both talking of how absolutely tiring this game is and the fact they both have the "I don't care's" right now.

L: They should have a totally separate room for "discussions", that way we could go into our rooms and not worry about interrupting. They both want in the HRD - Lisa for socks for her cold feet and Dani I guess to get more ready for bed (although they have all talked about eating at midnight since they're on PBJ today). But, they can't go in there now because Chiara and Marcellas have been in there talking forever.

Aug 17 2002 00:07, Sat im_so_addictedForum: 081702 Post: 45320    Link
Don't see this posted:Amy came into the bathroom and shared w D that the DR told her that some HGs went in there complaining about how much Amy was
told on the outside and how much they "encouraged" her to win HOH(ed.note these are my words-Amy was more brief about it) Amy was poo pooing it all and saying how it wasn't all that big of a deal and that BB really didn't tell her that much, etc. She makes a comment to Dani about how silly it all is and how stupid it is that they're calling up people tonight and everything over it. She says something to the effect of "it's not like I'm going to get disqualified or anything."
Then the camera shows her go into the kitchen/dining room where Lisa is and starts saying "For the record, Lisa, I never was told ....etc. etc. She is trying to downplay the whole thing to Lisa and Lisa doesn't really know what she's talking about. Then they went to FOTH...just a little bit too late, tho. :)

Aug 17 2002 00:13, Sat SharkyForum: 081702 Post: 45330    Link
Dani put the guilt trip on Amy so she doesn't nominate Jason: You know he gave you that HOH? He let you have it. NT

Aug 17 2002 00:14, Sat octaviaForum: 081702 Post: 45332    Link
D to A: "I gave you HOH"
She said this to intimidate A into not putting J up. A, "I know, but I didn't ask for it (HOH), and I would have stayed in that tub all night to save myself."

Aug 17 2002 00:17, Sat KADForum: 081702 Post: 45344    Link
Amy and Dan HOH Room
Don’t know what happened with all the FOH. But BB must have not wanted something heard.

Dan: I’m tired and I want to go into HRD but I can’t go into HRD.
Lisa: You know what going to be worse then nomination and if you are up is the POV.
Dan: I’m going for it.
Lisa: Yep
Lisa: I feel like I don’t belong anywhere.
Dan: If I was HOH and I new how I was going to vote and if you come up to me and ask me how I was going to vote. I’d be like Nope. I don’t want to talk about the game, my minds made up.
Lisa: My feet are cold and I want to go get some socks but I’m scared. They need a conference room . So we don’t get ousted from their rooms. Not like we don’t know who’s in there anyway.

Dan in HOH with Amy

Dan: Have you decided who your going to nominate.
Amy: Maybe
Dan: You do what you want to do, I will support you, but I still want to know who you are nominating.
Amy: I know the veto can throw the whole thing and ruin it.
Dan: My next question to you is this. If you put the devil against a saint and the devil gets free who are you going to put in her place.
Amy: I’m going to talk to him about it, not using veto if he gets it. And tell him he would go up if he used it.
Dan: But you can’t put him up if he gets the veto.
Amy: But if he tells me he won’t veto her.
Dan: Of course he will tell you he won’t use it.
Amy: I don’t know, I think he would be honest with me.
Dan: You do what’s best for yourself.
Amy: And then theirs Lisa. Who up could I put up in his place. Jason never was up. already been up.
Dan: I’ve never been up.
Amy: I know, but I’m not going to put you up. I’m not sure of anybody else I could put up that would be a sure fire to win against them. Are you crying Dan.
Dan: No, I’m just thinking. If you put someone up there is a chance it will backfire and that person will go. The house really wants Chiara to go.
Dan: Go with your heart, I’ll support you. You know what I think. It’s a big chance you’re taking.
FOH



Aug 17 2002 00:55, Sat KADForum: 081702 Post: 45436    Link
Chiara
Back in HRD with Chiara and Dan
Dan: Well she hated Gerry’s guts.
Chiara: I’m thinking I need to talk to Marc. Because she’s said that people has been coming to her all day giving them her opinion. I can’t be quite I’m not that type of person. I know Dan didn’t go to her or Lisa, maybe Gerry, not Jason. So who are all these people going to her (HELLO< HOW ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FELLOW RODDY).
Lisa: How come you never came to me when I was….
Chiara: That was different.

Outside Amy and Gerry on Court
Gerry: I’m trying to figure out schedule tomorrow.
Amy: I think we are doing nominations in the morning.
Gerry: Then Vetoes maybe later in the day. But we have to do America’s Choice tomorrow to, maybe will do vetoes on Sunday.

Now we back inside with the Dan, Chiara, and Lisa in HRD.
Marc comes in saying about ants going up the wall or something. Chaira goes out to kitchen to help him.

Night people can’t keep eyes open.





Aug 17 2002 00:55, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45438    Link
Chiara & marcellas cleaning the kitchen
they just unplugged the microwave. they lost the time. they figure it's 10:15. Amy is counting so they don't lose the time. Dani goes well we know it's 12 because they will tell us when we can eat. Marc goes no they will F*CK us up ... so they are cleaning very quickly in the area of the microwave

Aug 17 2002 01:00, Sat listexForum: 081702 Post: 45450  ParentRootLink
because there is a line of marching ants into the kitchen from an interior window/wall. NT

Aug 17 2002 01:07, Sat FerrisForum: 081702 Post: 45465    Link
D and L stragedizing...
D wants to make the vote 3-2 against Chiara instead of 4-1 (R being the 1) so Roddy doesn't know who voted C out...

Aug 17 2002 01:07, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45466    Link
Marc - who in this house eats fat reduced peanut butter?
chiara - (snotty voice) LORI...
they are finding out that some peanut butter jars were left open and some of the ants have been feasting.
chiara is going raid crazy.. she's spraying it like there's no tomorrow
marc - i think they should put us up in a hotel for a week
chiara - just spray a bunch of raid everywhere and doesn't want anyone to clean it up or touch it.. she wants it to soak in
marc starts cleaning the dishes
switching to feed 2....
lisa,danielle and chiara talking in the hrd about feet
feeds froze..

Aug 17 2002 01:08, Sat FerrisForum: 081702 Post: 45467    Link
C came in and interrupted and left....now listening outside the door... NT

Aug 17 2002 01:08, Sat octaviaForum: 081702 Post: 45469    Link
D and L seem to accept Chiara will be the one nominated and the one to go. Danielle wants votes to be manufactured 3 to 2 Chiara to go. NT

Aug 17 2002 01:09, Sat KatForum: 081702 Post: 45470    Link
D telling L she wants the vote to be 3-2 to vote C out, so R won't know & D will vote to keep C. NT

Aug 17 2002 01:13, Sat FerrisForum: 081702 Post: 45478    Link
C is totally paranoid.....
...she keeps interupting L and D in the HRD and now when she left she left the door open...

Aug 17 2002 01:16, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45485    Link
Marc - jason go lift a weight!! (semi long)
Jason was asleep on the couch.
mar - were you sleeping
jason - i was dead asleep. i can't believe they are lifting weights at 10 at night. i'm not going to do it. i'm gonna be up all night.
marc back to doing dishes..
switching feeds
gerry is giving tips on lifting weights by using your shoulders
marc - day 6456 the fumes of the raid are starting to get to marcellas.. he feels like he's floating [to chiara] i'm doing the camping thing.
chiara - this is toxic. did you tell the dr yet?
Marc - no i think some others did
chiara - no
marc- i think roddy did
chiara - roddy did you talk to the dr yet? and the fact that people leave dirty peanut butter forks
chiara - you've got your bathroom thing i've got my kitchen thing.
marc- kiki can you open the door.. i've got a bit of a headache
chiara - from the raid?
marc - defiently the raid is begging to get tome. day 6497 marcellas is dead. the raid overcame him. he died a slow, horrible painful death. the houseguests ate him being careful not to eat his organs. wow i have a headache. i need to stop.
chiara- yeah i'm getting naseaus. we are going through what people are saying is harmful to our health
chiara - day 9983 marc and chiara learned the ant language in order to communicate with the ants and become one with them. the other houseguests are mad, and we don't care

Aug 17 2002 01:19, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45491    Link
marc - this must be what it feels like to be a pot head
marc - we are going nuts while the other houseguests do sh*t
chiara - revive us when we faint
in the window you can see gerry lecturing jason and roddy on how to lift weights properly. you can tell he's lecturing by his hand movemenhts.
feeds switch to gerry and roddy and jason doing sit ups
now roddy is the aerobics instructor, saying the most important part of situps is to move your legs and move your body up to it.

Aug 17 2002 01:24, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45499    Link
YAY FOTH ON ALL 4 FEEDS!! NT

Aug 17 2002 01:35, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45525    Link
feeds 1 & 2: the workout trio lifting weights. Feeds 3&4 lisa playing cards NT

Aug 17 2002 01:36, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 45528    Link
Lisa and Dani are planning a talk in the HRD.
Dani says something about a deal with Gerry "Gerry always breaks his word" They decide that Gerry is in league with Roddy and may keep his word for that reason. Now talking normal volume, but about nail polish (Lisa has some kind of issue about her toenails looking bad and falling out). They compare feet. Boooooring! Why all the planning and cover to talk about feet?
I took a break to search the feeds, and reconnect several times. Gerry and Roddy are working out on the Bball court. What's going on now with Dani and Lisa. Dani doesn't like racism being brought up. When someone at the office opens a bag of chips, Dani has to be the first on to reach into it. They all know that at work. Hmmmm. Lisa down on Chi for her recent behaviour. Dani diplomatically says that from her stories, what would you expect from a girl like that? It seems to come as a surprise to Lisa that Chi is that insecure. Duuuh! Lisa is shuffling cards now, Dani is on the floor at her feet doing something with her feet. (lots of periods of silence interspersed here). Lisa says that she doesn't even know anyone with that many partners. Dani says all of her friends put together don't have that many partners. Whispering about a talk with Eric about Chi's past, and Eric asked what she thought. Lisa said that she wanted to date first.
Eric said something to the effect that he wouldn't have expected any other answer. Dani says, "see, he respects you"
Lisa goes to the door and opens it and begins swinging it back and forth to get rid of the nail polish smell. Someone in the kitchen must have remarked on it, and Lisa says "Dani farted" They discuss the temperature in the room and what level they like. (it is hot tonight). The door is open, so there won't be any more strategy talk. Checking the feeds.

Aug 17 2002 01:46, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45557    Link
Amy doesn't know who to nominate.. she wants to sleep on it!!
She said she talked to dani, and marcellas is on her side no matter who she nominates. amy says has no clue who's she's nominating

Aug 17 2002 01:49, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 45560    Link
This and That Around the Feeds: (There might actually be something interesting in here, it could happen)
F 1 & 2 are different views of Roddy, Gerry and Jason exercising with the weights on the patio. They must be pushing themselves, because there is a lot of serious grunting.

F 3 is Dani on the floor in the HRD still playing with her feet. Occasionally, the camera switches to Lisa on the bed playing cards. Chiara comes in and walks around. She leaves.

F 4 was a shot of Amy on her bed in the HoH, but it is now a long shot of Dani and Lisa in the HRD.

Marc has joined the boys in the yard. He is being pressed to join the guys, but he wants his own mat. He is in his pyjamas and doesn't want to get dirty. All 4 are now doing crunches on the Bball court. Amy comes out and is invited to join. It seems that she just got out of the shower, and she declines. Marc quits and invites himself to do something with Amy. No, he quit quitting and is now lifting weights on the bench. How butch.

Chiara has returned to the HRD and stayed with a batch of fresh towels, all neatly folded. They are all chit-chatting and having fun, but not saying anything important. (aren't you glad you didn't pay for the feeds?)

Aug 17 2002 01:52, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45565    Link
the crimson wave
lisa asked amy when she is expecting her period
amy said next week.
lisa goes chiara expects her's next week too. Lisa and danielle both have it right now, and got it on the same day.
jason is like.. umm... ok...

Aug 17 2002 02:08, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 45594    Link
This and That Around the Feeds: (Don't expect too much, it's an in-between night)
F 1 & 2 have Lisa and Amy on the lounges in the yard. Amy is still brushing her hair out. Not much of consequence being talked about between them, but occasional comments to the workout boys. Dani joins them, along with Roddy. They discuss their periods. Dani and Lisa are co-ordinated, Amy isn't due for awhile.
F 3 & 4 is Marc and Chi in the kitchen cleaning. Roddy is now visiting them. The great ant hunt is over, for now. Chi has moved on to the bathroom to clean. (F 4) Roddy visits with her, but says nothing. Now he is in the HRD selecting some clothes. Feed is back to the kitchen where Dani has discovered a small box beside the fridge that is also a fridge. She goes around back and starts pressing buttons. Marc suggests that she leave it alone, but she effectively tells him to FO. Chi comes in and Dani asks her, "did you knot that this was a fridge?" "Yes, I keep my drug paraphernalia in there" (a different form of FO).
Back to the Quad cam.
F 1 & 2 are short and long shots of the yard. Amy or Lisa on the lounges in the close shot. Jason on the exercise machine is included on the long shot. Marc is now sitting by the girls. Nadda of Import.
F 3 & 4 is the bath R Roddy is taking a shower and Dani and Chi are chatting with him. Now Dani, Chi and Lisa are on both feeds in the kitchen. Let's go listen in. Wasn't worth the re-load. They are talking about episodes of "Friends" Wonderful. "Remember when . . . " (oh, what I go through for you people)

Wait! Marc just walked by Amy and whispered something about talking and Gerry. He went in the house, and Amy followed. I don't see them showing up on any of the feeds yet.

Aug 17 2002 02:08, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45596    Link
chiara: if tonya was back in this house i would have NEVER gotten out of that tub (don't know who she was talking about) NT

Aug 17 2002 02:11, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45600    Link
chiara and roddy chat
roddy: if one of us goes.. i had an unbelievable time.
chiara- i know
roddy- he talked to amy about it. saying he's not going to say much because she already knows them
chiara - marcellas annoys her. saying that she made the choice of putting amy and marcellas up against each other and told marcellas that. saying that now that amy is back it's a second power trip for him.
she was talking about being roddy put up to marcellas and he said well, he was the one that pitted two friends against each other.
they are now watching danielle dance.
roddy is like 2 more hours let's keep it going.


Aug 17 2002 02:16, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45604    Link
lisa mad at false ads.. saying the "glides on invisible yet you have white arm pits all day"
chiara's choked that amy won't tell who she's putting up
Roddy goes - and another thing about lisa...
then lisa comes in and roddy goes.. oh umm...
and chiara goes - did you hear that?
lisa - nope.. i'm deaf in one ear because she worked a bar that the speakers are soooooooo loud that speakers caught on fire.
they wait for lisa to leave
chiara - i had to say my peace and if puts me on the block then so be it
roddy - well i believe lisa is gone if she's against you (I believe this is what I heard)
chiara- goes I don't know
roddy - things have turned...
gerry enters
now roddy talking about his friend's baby because gerry is still there

Aug 17 2002 02:22, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45611    Link
there's a big circle on the table.
it was put on theh table when they were locked out this morning. jason just noticed it now.

Aug 17 2002 02:26, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 45616  ParentRootLink
I think she means the large lazy-Susan that they use for nomination meetings. Rumour has it that they do nominations in the morning. NT

Aug 17 2002 02:24, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 45612    Link
Very Little Around the Feeds: (Don't expect too much, it's an in-between night)
F 1 and 2 in the bath with Chi and Roddy. Chi is re-telling what she said to Amy about life in the house since Amy left. She tells it better this time than she did to Amy. Roddy is calm and fatalistic about the prospect of being voted out. If I go, I go. It's been great. Now Chi is talking about Marc. (nothing you haven't heard before)

F 3 & 4 are Dani and Lisa in the kitchen. There was a brief shot of Gerry lounging in a chair, but it's gone now. Gerry's back on F 4 and he's talking to someone. Off to F 4.

It is Dani talking to Marc. Marc says "I've lived a lot of my life on camera" Dani wants to know if he liked it. He is apparently reassessing his priorities and is bored with that life. They are off on Black topics and other crap. No sign of Gerry as promised when I switched.

F 1 & 2 have Roddy, Chi and Gerry in the bathroom. Roddy is telling one of his personal stories. The party breaks up and the cameras follow R & G into the kitchen. Chi escaped faster. All the feeds are moving around now. Lisa is riffling cards at the dining table, alone. Roddy, Dani Marc and Gerry are in the LR. Chi is outside at the dryer. She is probably talking to Jason, but the picture has gone wonky. I can't keep up with this. Settle down people - you too camera persons.

I'm off to the PX for a while.

Aug 17 2002 02:24, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45614    Link
jason isn't hungry. he wants to go sleep. he doesn't want to eat because it keeps him up.
excersing exhausts him. but eating keeps him up. he wants to go to sleep because he's soooo tired. lisa asks about his throat. he says it's better.
lisa just wants to eat ice cream!!

Aug 17 2002 02:28, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45619    Link
roddy is fearing that chiara, lisa or himself is gone!! he goes to lisa "you just want to go right now?" and lisa goes "no" NT

Aug 17 2002 02:38, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45630    Link
marc & dani - think lil kim brought women back 3000 years. they think she's NASTY NT

Aug 17 2002 02:42, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45639    Link
they are discussing what day it is. They believe it's the 16th
marc - i can't believe it's friday night. i'm not a big going out person. but i can't believe i'm in here scratching myself (pelvic region)
gerry - talking about his 1st marriage being in a church wedding, and how it didn't last 2 years. yet he got a low key wedding and it's lasted 28 years. as soon as it talks about his divorce it cuts out. gerry's wife's ring was stolen. then gerry gave his ring to his wife to wear and they lost it in the toliet.
gerry was suppose to go on tour, he took Morgan (3mons old), to hawaii. talking about hitch hiking and hiring babysitters in hawaii. his daughter now barely remembers it. talking about toilet training her on tour.

Aug 17 2002 02:54, Sat RantoForum: 081702 Post: 45650  ParentRootLink
in California, it still IS the 16th. NT

Aug 17 2002 03:09, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45685  ParentRootLink
their words was believe.. so i used believe NT

Aug 17 2002 02:44, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 45642    Link
Lisa and Roddy have a date on the Hammock.
Roddy opens by saying "Let's talk about the game for an hour" Lisa says she likes it when the house is all frazzled. Roddy says "So one of us is gone" Lisa says don't count on it yet. She thinks Amy has learned something and is trying to play the game properly. Roddy says that Dani, Marc, Gerry and possibly Jason are in cahoots. Not many of us left, so one of us is going. They agree that Jason is acting strange and may be shutting down from all the pressure, particularly the pressure over Eric (this is for Lisa's benefit - that is old history). Roddy allows that he is prepared to sacrifice Chi, but says that he or Chi are probably gone so he and Lisa or Lisa and Chi are going to have to make other plans. Roddy says that he over-heard Marc and Gerry plotting. ((I can't believe I heard this - can anyone confirm that he said Marc and Gerry)). He says that Marc came to him and said exactly what they discussed, and that Gerry effectively confirmed it later.

They talk about Gerry and Lisa says that he is not taken seriously as a threat anymore. Whenever people talk about him now, it is only about his habits. Bla bla. Lisa and Roddy agree on the uselessness of movie and TV talk. Roddy is aware of how he is seen (as mister science/know it all). He says he is being shunned by some for even the most casual of comment that isn't pop culture. FOTFH This time I really am going to the PX

Aug 17 2002 02:44, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45643    Link
Bat In the Cave...
talking about have boogers in their nose, and dani is like i would be so discreate about it, and he was so loud about it. I believe it was Jason who yelled bat in the cave because he walked by.. i was reading the PX and just caught the last bit, so it could have been Roddy. THEN FOTH

Aug 17 2002 02:50, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 45647    Link
All 4 feeds are on Lisa and Roddy NT

Aug 17 2002 04:19, Sat ktanForum: 081702 Post: 45769    Link
4:20 quadview - 1:D/A/M talking movies at dinner table; 2:Wide shot of 1; 3:G/R religion talk outside; 4:Same as 3, both G/R in picture. NT

Aug 17 2002 04:21, Sat ktanForum: 081702 Post: 45771  ParentRootLink
Also on 1/2: C finished cleaning kitchen, joins movie talk, J takes over cleaning NT

Aug 17 2002 04:32, Sat ktanForum: 081702 Post: 45773    Link
Lights turned off by BB while most HGs are still in kitchen talking. NT

Aug 17 2002 04:35, Sat ktanForum: 081702 Post: 45775    Link
F1: Lisa in HOH room listening to Amy's Sarah Brightman CD; can barely hear music playing as well as talk from dinner table, especially Amy. NT

Aug 17 2002 05:40, Sat Realityis4TVForum: 081702 Post: 45813    Link
Roddy pissed
Roddy outside with Ja and D and was telling them that he is tired of talking about movies and wants to learn more about these people. Finds it hard to believe that that is all they know.....FOTFH

Aug 17 2002 05:49, Sat Realityis4TVForum: 081702 Post: 45819    Link
D and Ja
All 4 feeds on Ja and D in hammock.... talking about playing the game and D was telling him she should get best actress award cause she played everyone in that fish challenge..(about how she pretended to be disgusted by the fish and that she had to get out)

Ja saying he doesn't feel he has been manipulated...whispering about how no one knowshow deep d and his "alliance" is

Aug 17 2002 05:54, Sat Realityis4TVForum: 081702 Post: 45821    Link
More D and ja
D thinks Roddy pulled mar in.
No one knows where ja commitment is , D thinks that soon people will want to know.
They want to keep Lisa but D is losing trust or faith in Mar Said she loves him but he is playing his own game

D says she likes Amy and Roddy......then gets distracted

Amy might put up R ..D tried to talk to her about it BUt I think Amy is still undecided. they are talking about how to get Rid of Gerry and D suggesting she tell to Amy that she put R and D up but she doesn't knwo if she wants to say that

Aug 17 2002 05:56, Sat terrylynnnForum: 081702 Post: 45823    Link
Dani just suggested to Jason that Roddy has turned Marcellas, she suggests a third vote to go with theirs
Dani, suggests they dump marcellas and take lisa on as a third member in their coalition, dani says shes good people and jason agreed completely. Dani also told Jason that lisa voted for amy to come back instead of Eric.

Aug 17 2002 06:05, Sat thats_the_ol_jayForum: 081702 Post: 45825    Link
Jason says to Dani about Rod:"I want to be playing the game that well, but he can't win...it's gotta be ME!" NT

Aug 17 2002 06:13, Sat RipperForum: 081702 Post: 45829    Link
Dani and Jason hammock talk
Jason tells Dani he doesn't want anyone to know about their alliance.

Jason: Next week we can't let Roddy get HOH

Dani thinks Marcellas has made a deal with the devil (Roddy) and that it should be her, Jason and Lisa as the final 3. She says she's good people. She loves Marcellas but doesn't trust him. Jason says this is the hardest part of the game because he likes everyone. Dani says she likes Amy.. Jason likes everyone

Dani says she and Amy talked and she was thinking of putting up Jason. (Sounds like Dani thinks this option has changed). Jason doesn't think anyone wants to win POV this week.

Jason feels like a scumbag for getting rid of Eric, but now realizes it was the smartest thing they ever did. Both agree it would be very bad if Eric was there now. Dani tells Jason that Lisa voted for Amy to come back, but she felt awful and dont tell anyone.

Jason does not like people who put him up against the wall about his decisions in voting and why he's non-committal. (missed some here because he's mumbling so bad) Jason and Dani both talking about how dangerous Roddy is because he knows how to read people.

(feed timeout -- restart)

Still talking. Jason says he knows what Roddy is doing because he's giving up too many of his secrets and working on the votes for the end. Both again saying how glad they are Amy is back and not Eric. Dani thinks her and Marcellas would have gone up. Jason worried that his body language (close to Dani) will give away their alliance so he leans away from her. Dani talking about how shocked people will be if they really pull this off.

Jason talking about his thoughts about the game... he has a real inner conflict because he does love Chia and Roddy but never wants to go against Danielle. They talk about when they first formed their alliance on the BB court the first week and how good they've kept it a secret so long. Being so close is what hurt Roddy and Kiki, Amy and Marcellas. Jason thinks he should connect with Lisa now as friends, Dani disagrees. Jason impressed Lisa asked him about his bible. Dani tells him again what a good person Lisa is.

Dani says they'll be alright. And they go in the house....

Aug 17 2002 06:16, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 45831    Link
Ja and D chat in hammock about Ja playing the game and keeping their secret (very long)
After Ro goes inside. Ja is discussing the whole house signing a card for his family. D wants to sign the card last. D says that she should win a best actress award. Ja says that Li should win the award. Ja are talking about C being voted out.

They are discussing who would put Ro up for noms again. D says that no one else has the balls to put him up. Ja says that he will have to be evil and put Ro up. D is surprised and wonders if he can do it. Ja tells her that it's all part of playing the game and he will do it. D is laughing. Anyway, Ja could not put Ro this week since he made a deal with him. D says that she knew that and was trying to tell him to get out the tub now.

Ja tells D that no one knows how close they (D and Ja) are. They should keep it that way. If one of them gets voted out, they will not let people know that they are close so they don't get disqualified from voting in the finals. Ja says that if D gets voted out, he will tell people that he didn't like her that much. D laughs.

Ja and D are discussing how R and Ch play the game. It makes Ja feel like he's so bad and guilty when he does something against them. He's just playing the game. He doesn't want to make any more deals.

Ja is telling D that Ro has let too many of his secrets out. Ro reads body language and Ja knows it so he acts differently around people. Ja explains that he acts fidgity around D since he does that around Ro. He tries to look uncomfortable when he is talking to D in case Ro is watching. Ja laughs that Ro does observe a lot and plays the game well. Then Ja snickers and says that it's too bad that Ro can't win since he (Ja) will win.

Ja wishes that he didn't like people in the house so much. If he didn't like the people, he could act as evil and mean as he wanted. Unfortunately, he has gotten to like the other HGs. Ja adds that Ro has not said anything bad about anyone in the DR or actually done anything bad to anyone. This is to set up the final vote so no one has a reason to vote against him. D says that Ro is very smart. Ja says that it's too bad that he can't tell Ro how well Ro is playing the game.

Ja telling D that voting E out was one of the smartest things he has done. Ro and Ch think that he is aligned with them, but he would never go against his secret alliance with D. D tells him that R and Ch are worried about Ja since he is not really aligned with any one. Ja and D think back about when they first made their secret pact. They remember that it was during the first week when they were playing cards on the basketball court. From that point on, they were a secret pair. They congratulate themselves on how smart they were that they didn't go public with their alliance. That was the mistake Li and E, Ro and Ch and M and A made. They laugh again.

Ja and D discuss who they want to bring to the final three with them. They decide on Li. D tells Ja that she thinks M made a deal with the devil (Ro). Ja thinks that Ro turned M into an ally. D says that she loves M, but has found out what a wonderful person Li is. Li believes in all good things like moms staying at home to look after their kids. Ja agrees to take Li to the end with them. Now, they discuss the different combos of HOH and noms. After Ch, they want R out and then G. They don't mention A. They hope that they can keep their secret alliance until the end. They will have a great time shocking everyone. They laugh again. They finally head inside to bed.

Aug 17 2002 06:17, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45832  ParentRootLink
Sorry, that was me posting NT

Aug 17 2002 06:29, Sat mosiegirl2Forum: 081702 Post: 45835    Link
marci, amy and roddy up chatting in the livingroom in the dark.. NT

Aug 17 2002 06:44, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 45838  ParentRootLink
That was Jason with Roddy and Marcellas NT

Aug 17 2002 06:37, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45836    Link
Ro and M talking about volunteering at Museum and picking up dates (long)
M is telling Ro about his volunteer work at a museum (I didn't catch which one in Chicago). Ja joins them in LR. He loves to be the one doing the hieroglyphics display at the Cleopatra exhibit. He runs over to the museum really early to get the hieroglyphics assignment. He likes to do the visitor's names in hieroglyphics especially the gay men. The gay men love the Cleopatra exhibit and M writes their names in hieroglyphics and adds his phone number. As M is telling about his volunteer experience, Ro adds facts here and there. Ro finally admits that he is Mr.Science.

M describes other assignments like taking school kids through the museum and doing planned activities. He had one of his best female friends join too so they could volunteer together. The other volunteers are old and very mean. He tells Ro a story about taking classes through an activity with skulls from different animals. Ro asks more about the hieroglyphics and M replies that he doesn't know anything. He just does it to meet dates. He does add that the hardest times are when Hispanic kids come in. He has a difficult time spelling their names. He notices that if there is a popular Hispanic soap opera star, there will be a whole class of kids with that star's name.

Ro asks M if he will take him (Ro) to museums if he comes to Chicago. M agrees. Ro then takes over the conversation and tells M and Ja about a trip to Alaska. He went on a trip with several friends who are physicists and such. They climbed glaciers, looked at extinct volcanoes, bird watched, checked out the local plants, etc. Ro says that it was such a dork fest. Everyone laughs. Ro tells M that he probably wouldn't like a trip like he just described. M says that he loves the passion of it. Then he asks if Ro's friends are cute. Ro doesn't think so.

Then M says that he doesn't really like the Museum of Natural History since it makes him sad. Seeing extinct animals makes him so sad. Ro is telling him that one species replaces another and that's the way of life. M says that it just makes him feel bad to see all those dead things. He describes going to the Chocolate exhibit that took over after the Cleopatra exhibit left. He thought it would be great since chocolate is so good. He was walking around with the museum tour tape and then came upon the part of the exhibit that showed the natives being killed for chocolate and Africans being enslaved to grow chocolate. He couldn't believe that such a nice exhibit was ruined by the ugliness. Now, Ja goes to bed.

Aug 17 2002 06:45, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45839    Link
More Ro and M convo in LR (long)
M says that he should have really volunteered at the aquarium. It is awesome and everything is so alive. He just doesn't like the whale pool since he doesn't know why they are held in captive anyway. Ro starts to tell M how whales communicate and how humans and their engines in the ocean have ruined the whales method for communication.

Now, he is mad about the movie Free Willy. Fourteen million was raised to save that whale in the movie. He can't believe that they used fourteen million on one disney whale when they could have used the money to do something like stopping Japanese killing of whales. He saw the Free Willy parties and people donating outrageous sums like $400,000. He thinks that people are trying to do a good thing, but they just don't know.

Aug 17 2002 06:49, Sat mosiegirl2Forum: 081702 Post: 45842    Link
in the girls bedroom, one of them just said "I don't think Marci has big butt... but he does have a long butt crack"...too funny! NT

Aug 17 2002 06:59, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45847    Link
Ro and M discuss M's last convo with Josh (long)
Ro asks M when a convo had led him down a totally different path than he expected. M says that his last convo with Jo was like that. Ro asks about the convo. M explains his love/hate relationship with G. Ro jokes, "You mean you'd love to be here at the end with G?" M says that the love part is G saving him with POV in the first week. However, if what G said about the racism is true that means that G has that inside him. That is just ugly especially since G has nieces, nephews, and students who are black or partly black. Ro tries to explain that he doesn't think G knew what he was saying that day. The words were powerful and G didn't even know how powerful it was. Ro adds that if G really is like that then he should do something profound out of the house and not inside the house like he did.

M goes back to Jo telling him (M) that people would have voted him out. Ro tells M that it's not true since Ch, E and he had already decided to vote to keep M. They only wanted to vote M out when M told them that he wanted to go. As soon as M wanted to stay, they decided to keep him in. Then the POV happened and the vote didn't have to happen. M was upset that D or Ja may have lied to him and was part of the deal to get him out. He confronted Ja and Ja swore that he didn't lie to M. M was so mad a Jo after that. Ro is saying that Jo was just making trouble.

Aug 17 2002 07:26, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45863    Link
Ro playing M now and trying to distance himself from Ch (very long)
Ro is telling M that he can't understand how M came close to leaving while G has been in here so long and not even close to being voted out. G is like Mr. Magoo. All the sh*t is falling around him and not touching him. He doesn't think G deserves to be in the house for 50 days already adn he's probably not going up this week either. How can he still be in here when someone who is good like E is out of the house? M explains that E set himself up by becoming part of a couple. He also adds that "Ro's boy (Jo)" was pitting them (Jo, E, Li, Ch, Ro) against the others.

Ro says that he was just thrown in this couples thing. He did not want to be part of anything. He wanted to tell Ch that if they really liked each other, they would wait to be a couple outside of the house. He could not stop what happened. He was the only single, eligible, non-virgin guy available and people threw them together since Li and E were already together.

He is upset about Ch putting him up for noms. He is relating to D that Ch asked him if he would vote Jo out. Ro said that he couldn't since he had a deal with Jo for that week. Right away Ch said that he was up for noms against Jo. He wasn't given a say in it and can't believe it. She told him that she went around to everyone else and they all agreed to vote out Jo so she is taking away Ro's vote. He was really upset about it and couldn't believe that she would do that to him.

Now, Ro is blaming To for being a huge gossip and causing trouble. To was keeping tabs on Ro. She would bitch at him whenever he talked to A. M tells him that To watched everytime Ro talked to A. Then To would jump up like a shot and go tell Ch. He tells M that Ch told him point blank to stop talking to A. He was dragged into the hornet's nest of women (Ch, To, Li) and berated about talking to A and making it look like he was cheating on Ch. He couldn't believe it since he did not think he was Ch's anything. He defied them by talking to A all night one night and found out that A was a really great person. When he told Ch the next day, she was angry. Then A treated him badly the next day after he took such a huge risk with her. M explains that the next day, Ch and T had their screws into A and he had recommended to A to stop talking to Ro. M's expression was "Someone has sprayed their scent on that man, so you had better leave him alone."

Ro saying that those girls (Li, Ch, To) were spending all their time together and Li was with E all night. How could he have told all four of them to "stick it in their ear" and he was not part of the group or a couple. He hated how To worked things to box him in. M is repeating that he told A to leave Ro alone since the other girls were giving her a hard time. Ro is telling M that he was giving Ch a hard time about her relationship with Ja for the same reason Ch berated him about A. Ro tells M that his mother could be watching and wonder why this girl who is with her son, jumping all over Ja?

Ro and M decide to move the convo out to HT.


Aug 17 2002 07:46, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45866    Link
More Ro and M convo now in HT about the game (long)
M asks R what he is going to do now? Ro says that he may be in the house at least one more week. Ro thinks that CH is gone for sure. The convo turns to M's strategy when he first came in. He wanted to get rid of the "pretty" people who were too nice to him. He also wanted to get rid of the mothers since they would get the sympathy vote. Now he has a different strategy.

Ro asks M what he is going to do now? M says that he will vote CH out if CH is up. Ro tells him that he doesn't mean now, but for the long term. M says that if he had a sh*t list, he would go for Ch and G, but he doesn't have an agenda. He is worried that he is becoming the butt of too many of the pretty boy jokes. He got the veto, HOH and spends the most time in the DR. Ro says that people don't mind and M even just said that he spends the most time in the mirror. M says that people get tired of it and don't want to vote for this stereotype.

M says that he is going to go after G. He doesn't like G or what G did. He feels uncomfortable around G. G does some uncomfortable things around him. Ro warns him to not bring that up since he could be wrong. M says that if he is wrong then G had his moment. Ro says that he has to be careful what he says. Then Ro goes over all the people that wants to get rid of G. Ja doesn't like G since they don't even spend 5 minutes together. M says that A and D hate G. Ro says that Li hates G and Ro would put up G too. Ro thinks that if Ro and G were put up, R would stay. The evictions will get more important as time goes by. There is still fat to trim and G is part of that fat.

Aug 17 2002 07:58, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45871    Link
R just asked M to be in an alliance (long)
R puts out to M that they can be a strong team. M says that it would be great and gives Ro a huge smile. R says that no one would know and they can work it. M says that there is a rumor going around about Ro wanting to be at the end with G since he can win. Ro says that it's just an analogy like Jo telling G that you need someone less liked at the end with him. Ro tells M that he does not have a deal with G to go to the end. Ro asks if M has a deal with D. M says that he doesn't. D has shown her true colors by bullying A about the noms. D has played her situation (strugglig mom) too hard. Now that she showed her true colors, he has no alliance with her.

Ro says that there is a rumor that M wants G to go to the end with him. M says that he DOES NOT have a deal with G. M accepts Ro's offer and says that he hasn't felt so exuberiant at any other time in the house. He is smiling really big. Ro says that it's exciting.

They are counting the votes if they are in the final two. It's a pretty fairly split between M and R. R is not sure about Ja since he lied to his face about his vote about E.

Aug 17 2002 08:07, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45875    Link
M goes over noms with Ro (long)
M is telling Ro that A has not run his (Ro) name past him as a choice for noms. Only CH has been mentioned in all scenarios. The only chance that CH has is if she is put up against Ro. M is now spilling to Ro that CH is more hated in the house than G and she doesn't even know it(can't see Ro's face since his back is to the camera).

Now M is explaining to Ro about people discussing voting Ro out against Jo last week. Jo had everyone almost at the point of voting Ro out. If Jo had been even a little human or just stayed in his room with the lizards the whole week, Ro would have been voted out. But, Jo showed his vicious side and everyone couldn't keep him in the house. Now they are rehashing the last week with Jo. Ro is excited about his new alliance.

M and Ro are saying that all the chat rooms are lit up with this new alliance. This is what we live for. M says that this is the best cybersex ever.

Aug 17 2002 08:15, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45883    Link
Ro putting some wiggle room in the alliance...
Ro says that if both CH and he stay, then he can't follow through with the alliance since he will have a very difficult time since CH will still be there. M asks how can CH and Ro both stay? Ro gives the scenario of CH and Ro get nominated. CH gets vetoed out. G gets put up. G gets voted out. M doesn't believe it and says that A's target is CH. A thinks that CH is the reason she was put up for noms and for her troubles with To.

M is explaining how HGs feel about Ro's nomination speech. They thought that Ro was going after A for being a bad person. Ro is defending himself. M says that it's not the words, it's the perception. Finally, Ro gets it. M tells Ro that from now on Ro has to say, "I'm putting you up because you can beat me."

Aug 17 2002 08:25, Sat GenieForum: 081702 Post: 45890    Link
Ro selling out CH (long)
M says that he understands if Ro saves Ch because she is his girl and he cares for her. Ro does not confirm that he would save CH. However, he is worried that if he has a chance to save CH and doesn't, everything he said about standing up for people will seem like bullsh*t.

M asks Ro why he was the first out of the tub in the HOH competition. Ro says that he wasn't feeling well, didn't sleep the night before, and didn't think he could outlast 8 people. He also thought that there was a conspiracy against him. M says that he thought Ro was just hedging his bets. If he did not win HOH, he would not have to put anyone up or do anything bad. Ro was surprised that A made it so long. If Ro knew that A was going to win HOH, he would have tried harder. He didn't want a wild card to win.

M asks him if he just didn't know what was going to happen. CH would go and then he could charm A and then replace CH with A. Ro says that he has never thought about it once and laughs. M says that it is a great game. Ro jokes that he should have thought of it and maybe he should do it. They are wondering if either of them will make it to the end and laughing about it. Finally, they decide to go to bed!!

Aug 17 2002 08:27, Sat MaryAnnForum: 081702 Post: 45891    Link
"You could have gotten HOH, why were you the first person out of that pool?" (more)
Roddy's explaining that he was feeling sick all day wondering if anyone would vote him out. He was feeling betrayed, he hadn't slept all night and he knew that he wouldn't outlast everyone in the tub and the difference between first out and second last out is nothing so he decided just to go, knowing that he wouldn't be last out.
R - "why, what do you think I was doing?"
M - "I think it was hedging your bets, I think it was a nice way to be off the hook, the HOH out of your hands. The work done by someone else..."

R - "I never for a minute thought that Amy would be the one to get the HOH but why would I put that in someone elses hands?"

M - "Because Roddy, you're charming, good looking and you knew that Amy was after you and you've got Chiara so why not just sub one girl in for the other?"

R - "That never occured to me. I didn't even kiss Chiara, I mean, I'm not here for these big expletive romances. Maybe I should" (laughter)

M - "Roddy, man, I can't believe that either one of us are gonna be here at the end."

R - "So, You're good about keeping your word huh?"
M - "I'm great at keeping my word"
R - "You know what I can't believe is how expletive wrong you've been about me so far"
M - Roddy, good night
R - Good night kid

Aug 17 2002 09:00, Sat Debra_KadabraForum: 081702 Post: 45922    Link
Transcript of Danni and Jason's chat last night (Very very long)
D: We had opportunity and I'm afraid by this... I'm afraid Roddy will make it to the end

J: Yeah

D: You know that,right

J: Yep

D: Unless someone nominates him but I don't think noone has the balls to

J: Yea, I think I may have to be the big meanie

D: Can you do that Jason?

J: It's the game. I gotta do what I gotta do. (Danni laughs) I've played alot of things very safe. So, I couldn't
this week

D: Right

J: Ya know

D: you looked at me, I went OH,Get your butt up out that tub

J: I know

D: You see my face

J: He (Roddy) said he really wanted to win HOH and he said I won't nominate you Jason he said I hope you do the same and I went umhm (chuckles) what did you get out of that? (Both laugh) I went ,No Rod I WON'T

D: Oh man

J: I'm in a wierd spot and you know here's where I get the most bothered in this game...is that when I play a little bit, like I did with Eric it's like I committed the worst sin in the world

D: To them?

J: Yea, It's okay,we smoothed it over but I thought I was the worst dog in the universe. I watch them and they play this game very intently. They invented the patented decoy and the get the person out in the house unanimous vote...USE the power of the HOH...but when I play the game then I'm wrong, it's been very difficult for me. That's what I struggle with cause I feel like I'm being manipulated to not play the game.

D: Exactly

J: And that causes me to go Am I being manipulated? And I don't think I am

D: They want you to play the game for their benefit

J: I feel very locked in. With you I can tell you. I can do this I can do that and I don't always feel like I can do that

D: With them

J: That's why, even if it was an offer I couldn't refuse I can't commit or connect because I don't have a say in it. I'm only benefitting their game.

D: That's why he gotta go. Whenever you ready to make a say, you let me know.

J:MmHmm.(Whispering for some reason) I don't want anybody to know how deep our relatioship is

D: That's why in those Gym clubby...I like getting mad at you

J Dadgummit, I'm an idiot (both make wierd noises, like fighting)

D: I'll let you know (if she's really mad) I'd like to get it that if one of us is out of the house that we're both protective...because if they know...If you make it to the end Jason and I'm out they naturally look at me to cancel the vote

J: (whispering again for no reason) I you're here and I'm not I'm going to ask you a mean question so they think I don't like you.

D: Okay...YEAH That's good. When I saw those tapes, Danielle You're scandalous

J: I feel I'm in a good spot and

D:You're in a good spot

J: I feel you are too.

D: Amy told me something funny tho

J: About me?

D: No about me. They asked her who does she think wants to win and she said me. And the producers they said Yea, She's really workin' it

Together: REALLY WORKIN'

D: I told her I got work to do. Wake up in the mornin...work to do

J: Next week

D: It's crucial

J: We cannot let Roddy win HOH. I mean we gotta win HOH next week. You me and Marcellas

D: I don't know about Marcellas, I think Marcellas made a deal with the devil

J: With Rodd?

D: MmHm. I really do

J: You think he pulled Marcellas in?

D: I think he pulled Marcellas in.

J: Right now or a long time ago?

D: Probably last week when Chiara or something..Somethin's just not right. I don't know what it is yet.

J: Do you think Roddy know that me and Marcellas, that I said I'd kind of work with him or whatever?

D: No because Roddy mentioned to Lisa that he's concerned about you because you have no commitment

J: Well nobody does really

D: Because nobody knows where your commitment is at. The person we're gonna have to show...I don't know it could be dangerous

J: We've got to make a three sided...figure out who we want to go to the finals with

D: You want my honest truth? It should be me you and Lisa

J: That's what I thought

D: Cause she's good people. I love Marcellas

J: I do to

D: He's playin his game. The way I look at this game when I talk to people...their morals...and the way they live their life on the outside world really means alot to me. I'm not sayin I'm a saint. Don't get me wrong

J: No, who is

D: But you. You know what I mean the way she carries herself. A mother. Stay at home and children. That means alot to me. Not going out on a date to get food. You wonder if you did that in here (sic) what would you do in here. So, I love Marcellas with all my heart but

J: I do too. That's the hard part about this game. If I didn't like anybody in here I could be as mean and nasty as I wanted too

Now holding simultaneous conversations. Jason saying he could lie to their face and feel good about it while Danni saying I like Amy...I like Roddy

J: My problem is I don't hate anybody. I like everybody.

D: Amy and I were talking and said How are we going to get rid of Roddy the following week? Who we gonna put up against Roddy and I almost said ME! But I don't know if I can beat him.

J: I'd have suggested Gerry and then make him feel safe and he'd be gone the next week.

D: Not if he gets HOH. Then you're gone...you're up

J: Yea but he'll put somebody up with me like a decoy and we'll turn the table. We could win POV

D: Yeah we could win POV

J: You could work it to win. Nobody wants it.Right now. Unless it's a game like that one where you're flippin over tiles

D: Chiara and Roddy worked together on that game that's why they did so well

J: You know what? I feel like a scumbag for doing the Eric thing but it was the smartest decision I ever made.

D: It was. You saw it then?

J: I see it now. The fear of him walking back in the house

D: When she announced You have the decision of her or Eric I went WOHH

J: I know. I'm so glad we sat around and said if we get to vote...how do we vote. (both laugh) we went 1,2,3,Okay! Did Lisa vote for Eric

D: She voted for Amy to come back

J: Really. I thought she might

D: She felt bad but don't tell nobody

J: I won't. You know, I felt really stupid in the Hottub the other night. That's when they tried to figure out who voted what way. You know it's a secret vote you know it's meant to be secret...why do you figure out...and they do one of those " Well Jason I know you voted Amy cause you'd feel awkward" and even if I don't answer it's as bad. Do you know how bad you're pinning me up against the wall? That makes me very uncomfortable and they don't understand that. And then they're like Why are you nervous about making a deal with me? Why are you non committal

D: Ask What other deals do you have. Tell me right now, what deals do you have.

J: Everytime we talk about deals...Roddy is probably sharp enough to know we've got something.

D: He thinks that me and you have

J: No. But I'm sure he sees us around each other. I try and look uncomfortable around you. Like sitting a hundred feet away from you on the hammock. I want to give you a kiss and a hug. I feel so distanced from you but I have to do it My body language... he reads a lot of stuff like that

D: He does

J: He's given away too many things that he does to read people. He says he's king of working the room...some of his little secrets...you shouldn't tell people what you're doing, how you're working 'em

D: He's dangerous. God, he's dangerous

J: But he's super nice and he's real

D: I hope he is

J: And I like him but he's playing the game. And I'll tell you what's brilliant about the way he's playing the game. I don't think he's ever made a negative comment about anybody in the DR. I don't think he's ever said it to anybody to get what he wants them to do. We're people doing things for him without him ever saying it. And it's brilliant cause nobody will ever have reason to not vote for him in the end. That's what I know he's doing. He 's given up enough of his secret. And I love him for it. I'm like OH,YOU'RE AWESOME! I wish I were playing the game as well as you, but you can't win it! NO, It's got to be ME!

D: We'll see Jason. It's weird how things have worked out. That Eric situation and him possibly coming back, I did some oooh (unintelligeble) for him.

J: I was like It's got to be Amy,It's got to be Amy,It's got to be Amy,every night in bed, God let it be Amy.We really did need somebody to be the bad guy this week and break up some of the stronghold.

D: Someone's going to nominate Marcellas and myself soon.

J: Who is going to do that? Anybody?

D: Anybody

Jason starts fidgeting around saying Roddy is looking out at them he tells Danielle he's not going to make eye contact with her

D: If we pull this off...and don't say anything until we're sitting up there do you know how people will be shocked

J: Scandalous

D: Even The reason our relationship is what it is(unintelligable) I understand what you do.

J: There's so many things I want to tell you. Things I've seen and noticed about the game and people you know thoughts I've had at different moments in the game. There was a real inner conflict because I do love Roddy and Chiara but I was never going to go against the agreement I made with you.

D: Did we do that in the first couple of days in the house, what did we do?

J:It was like the first week. Before the eviction of Lori.

D: Oh yeah it was huh?

J: We sat out on that basketball court and played cards.

D: We did. I thought we made it right here tho.

J Huh uh, we sat there and said let's take it to the end and you're like All right...Speed( pretends to deal cards) and you beat me

D: And it has to be secret cause if they know they'll split us apart. It's amazing

J: Cause that's what hurt Eric and Lisa. Roddy and kiki, it's going to hurt Amy and Marcellas

D: Everybody

J: I have a need probably to connect with Lisa

D: I don't think you have to.

J: Welp no, not like couple thing, but really build a bond. I really want to. I feel we have connected

D: She's really good

J: She asked about my Bible I'm going to let her read it. And she's like Is it easy to read

D: Her mom used to teach...

Some mumbling ( maybe about cold and something about Danni knowing something about Eric was bothering Jason by the look on his face) they get up off the hammock

D: We'll be all right

J: Absolutely


Aug 17 2002 11:25, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 45987    Link
Quad Cam: F1&2 HG sleeping; F3&4 G exercising NT

Aug 17 2002 12:02, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46023    Link
G if finally off exerciser, he's now in bathroom area NT

Aug 17 2002 12:39, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46078    Link
G did morning routine, coffee and chores;D is now up and in bathroom area NT

Aug 17 2002 12:40, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46082    Link
G just stopped in the middle of the Backyard turned to the camera and wished his wife Deb a Happy Anniversary NT

Aug 17 2002 12:41, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46089    Link
D teeth must not be false (as someone posted) because she's flossing NT

Aug 17 2002 12:48, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46116    Link
D gargling mouthwash, must be up for good, Yeah! NT

Aug 17 2002 12:57, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46135    Link
D & Ja whispering about nons and veto possibilities, D warns Ja not to tell anyone NT

Aug 17 2002 12:59, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46139    Link
Ja tells D that there is only one player and that if he makes it tio the end and they don't vote for him then so be it but that he has to play NT

Aug 17 2002 13:00, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46141    Link
Ja says to D up till now R's been playing & C's been playing the game, now I have to play the game, let the chips fall where they may NT

Aug 17 2002 13:18, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46185    Link
Quad Cam: F1&2 Ja feeding and talking to lizards; F3&4 G on patio playing cards alone, then FOH? NT

Aug 17 2002 14:44, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46374    Link
The HG's are up and getting breakfast ready NT

Aug 17 2002 15:05, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46404    Link
R tells funny beeper story to Ja, G - M in bathroom, cranky about G SHORT
D is repainting her toenails, had purple on and thought it was too ghetto.

L: Asks M if he's ok

D: I haven't seen you crack a smile all morning

M: That troll (G) comes to the door and says Battery Change, why wasn't that door locked? And I told him just get out and leave it outside, He probably would have taken the whole thing apart.

L: Did you say that?

M: Then he goes into the storage room singing, and there he is in that same T-shirt again.

C: Which one?

M: The anniversary one. I could just go out there and kick him in ...(couldn't make it out)

D says something about no violence, mumbled low

D tries to get M out of cranky mood saying she will get a pedicure & manicure when she gets out. What will M do? Shopping right?

Now they talk a little about where to shop, if it's an all day event M says it depends on what he's looking for and whose money he's spending.

Aug 17 2002 15:11, Sat MisterSlipperyForum: 081702 Post: 46415    Link
macy and amy in BR, amy says "I should put up roddy but I dunno" NT

Aug 17 2002 15:24, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46431    Link
Lisa & Dani in HRD Dani says to Lisa, "I think it's time for us to look after ourselves"
She tells Lisa several times to "Don't worry" Lisa thinks they still need Marc. Dani implies not, but won't say who else she can count on. She tells Lisa to count the votes, only 5 can vote. Chi comes in, and Dani leaves.

Aug 17 2002 15:25, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46433    Link
Chiara reading Tarot Cards in HRD(like that is going to help her ) NT

Aug 17 2002 15:30, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46441    Link
Marc and Amy are chatting in the bath R. Dani came in.
I missed the intro, but heard Dani say to Amy "I've got the three" Was she reporting that she had 3 confirmed votes to back Amy's Noms? Anyone?

Aug 17 2002 15:37, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 46455  ParentRootLink
Last night Dani plotting with Lisa in HRD....
Dani was counting votes to get Chia out. They discuss getting Roddy out next week (even though they want him out this week). It sounded as if Dani has an agreement with Amy (or will propose one) in which Amy will nominate Chia and Roddy (not Jason) if Dani confirms she has the votes to get rid of Chia and not Roddy.

Aug 17 2002 15:40, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46461    Link
Dani and Amy alone in the Bath chatting nonsense.
In response to a direct question, Amy is confirming the stereotype of Southern women "oh, ya, big time" She goes on to cite examples. Turns out they are not alone, Lisa is off camera somewhere. They are asking about the Spanish word "sousa" (SP) and aren't sure what it means. Dani says, "should we ask Gerry, that might be interesting?" Talk briefly of a lump on Lisa's armpit, and Dani says she dreamed about that a while ago. (psychic Dani). Sounds like Chi may be there now. Yes, the camera shifted and Chi is sitting on the counter by the w/c. Now about plane security and things they have taken through security or packed in their bags.

Aug 17 2002 15:41, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46466    Link
The guys talking about nudity on the net they think it's delayed and cut
They also wonder if movie lines are copywritten and would they cut to the FOTH
Roddy says and about 11 minutes in July was shown because of the amount of movie talk they do
Marc decides that he's going back to bed.
Now Gerry talking about teasing is mean spirited.

Aug 17 2002 15:46, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46478    Link
Gerry and Jason at the table in the yard. They are talking about humour.
The essence of most humour is the feeling "I'm glad that's not me" (Gerry). Now about it being day 43 and either week 6 o7, depending on how you count. The speculate that AC will be this afternoon about 3 or 3:30. Jason is about to go shave for the Nominations meeting. It's an uncomfortable day. "And it's not going to get any better" (Theme music, but no FOTFH picture. Re-freshing, because that can't be right. Ah, there it is, the beloved FOTFH)

Aug 17 2002 15:49, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 46485    Link
FOTH..Maybe Nominations NT

Aug 17 2002 15:49, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46486    Link
A & L talk about airport security SHORT
Amy tells about a girl who forgot she had a tweezers in her carryon bags and airport security wanted to take it away from her.

Lisa then tells about a copper papar weight her father made her and airport security went off on her and armed guards came and they wanted to know what it was and what it did. Lisa says "it's a paper weight, my Dad made it, it holds down paper. They think there's a button on it and tell her to push it. Finally they let her through and she can keep her paper weight.

Chiara pretty much just lurks in the bathroom.

Aug 17 2002 15:55, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46494    Link
Amy talking about George Clooney to R and C
When she was out of the house BB told her that George Clooney was at the lot and they gave him a tour of the compound. Alison (BB staff) was nervous.
Roddy then says to C he was wandering in here watching you rip into him about his acting.

Aug 17 2002 15:57, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46496    Link
Jason must have gone in, because Gerry is now curling up on a lounge to nap.
I hear Amy and Roddy in the house, let's go see if we can find them.

Dani, Amy and Roddy are in the bath R on F 1& 2. Gerry is napping on F 3 & 4. Now Amy is in the w/c while Jason paces about the bath R. A female is showering, and Roddy and Dani have come back from the HRD (Dani insisted that Roddy put some things away in the HRD because she was tired of tripping over them) It is Lisa in the shower. FOTFH.

All feeds on Roddy and Amy in the bath R. Roddy is inventing BB stories he will tell about his time with all the girls in the house. Amy says that George Clooney visited the BB site and took a tour of the place (This was apparently before Amy's first eviction). Roddy is now participating in TV & movie talk. Chi had poses some question about people who had left TV for movies. Amy tells a story about someone being excited about getting off an elevator and seeing the "Price is Right" big wheel. Amy remarks about taking her shirt off in the house one time then catching herself. Chi says (don't worry) "They've seen tits now".

Aug 17 2002 16:07, Sat MirageForum: 081702 Post: 46514    Link
A/Ch high on way to L.A. with BB!!
(This conversation happened about the time of them talking about airport security. I had problems w/ computer, and couldn't post at that time.)

No FOTH, while Chiara says she had been drinking and just smoked (hmmm, we
can figure out what), when BB came to get her.

Amy tells that she had been drinking and had taken a Xanax. She fell asleep
at the airport, slipped out of her chair, and medics were called. She
didn't remember how it happened, since she was sleeping. She asked BB if
they had that on tape, and fortunately, they did not.

Aug 17 2002 16:07, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46515    Link
Lisa now walking about with a huge turban on her head.
Amy and Jason are futzing about. Ja is about to shave and that will take some time, so he offers Amy the shower first. Chi reminds Amy about the clean towels (towel rules again). All feeds in the bath R.

Aug 17 2002 16:09, Sat ModyodForum: 081702 Post: 46520    Link
Stupid, stupid Kiki!!
Sitting in hammock with R, saying no matter who I get put up against, Dani will NEVER vote me out, no matter what, never. Man, she is buying everything Dani is selling her! She's telling R she would save him if she got veto, he said "then you'll be going home for sure".

Aug 17 2002 17:36, Sat JD_DadForum: 081702 Post: 46661  ParentRootLink
... and Rod will stay true to his word to Kiki, as per late night conversation with Marc ... to his own detriment NT

Aug 17 2002 16:13, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46527    Link
Back to all feeds on Chi and Roddy on the hammock.
They think that they are up and are speculating about veto and who's votes they can count on. Chi thinks Dani will never vote her out. Roddy thinks that Dani owes him one, so she can't put him up herself, but he thinks he is her prime target. Roddy is preaching calm to Chi. Accept your fate and treat this as your last week to be enjoyed. Chi says that if she and he are put up and she can't get veto to save him, she will ask that everyone to vote her out because she couldn't face being there without him. Roddy says one of them is gone, either way. Chi is grasping at the veto use (I don't hear Roddy vowing to veto Chi), and having enough votes to stay (because after veto, Roddy would vote to save her and she thinks she has one other sure vote). Roddy thinks that they should try to find out who Amy will put up in case of veto. Chi promises to behave herself and not cause trouble if she is nominated.

Aug 17 2002 16:20, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46542    Link
Chi is back to being PO'd about Roddy getting out of the tub early.
He sort of apologizes, he didn't know. Talking about the unfairness of the returnee, and how Chi didn't know it was happening in time to adjust her strategy as HoH. They think that the returnee should have gotten immunity or something, but not been able to become HoH. Chi is angry at BB/CBS for the change. They think it wasn't very well thought out. They (BB) don't realize how subtly balanced life in the house is, and how much that screwed things up. Roddy would bet his left nut that whoever thought it up has never spent 40 odd days in a house with 12 strangers. (duh!!) FOTFH Back to hear mention of Amy being recognized in Mexico and Oh, my God" FOTFH

Aug 17 2002 16:24, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46551    Link
Chiara says "It's just not fair!" SHORT
R: If you go and piss 4 people off trying to get someone out of the house and you use all this strategy and they come back, if you would have known of that possibility ahead of time you would have done things differently.

C: And everyone f*****g gets out of the tub, knowing it's me on the line

R: They should have at least told each HOH that this would happen and offer something like immunity or something.

C: I don't want to go out of here all angry at CBS and this show like I'm feeling now.

(out of context) C says she hates Amy, hates her voice, has since day one.

Aug 17 2002 16:45, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46580    Link
G saying how beautiful his wife is, that she is as beautiful now as was when he met her and
that she is the kind of person who will always be beautiful. She will be beautiful when she's 70. He goes on to tell of a little hispanic boy that they once had as a foster child. He said at the time he loved him as much as his natural daughter. He also said he lost him when he lost his job in San Diego. The boy did get adopted by a rich black couple and he thinks he is doing well.

Aug 17 2002 16:59, Sat JovianForum: 081702 Post: 46598    Link
Marc says he is going to sleep untill nominations. (confirms nominations havent occured yet) NT

Aug 17 2002 17:02, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46602    Link
Backyard Boyz..
R, M, J and G in backyard... R says his b*lls killing him... asks M about his own b*lls.. M says he's spunked 3 times in his shorts...

R laughs and calls Ja a eunich..

Aug 17 2002 17:07, Sat las0127Forum: 081702 Post: 46613  ParentRootLink
he said eunuch - def: (see #3) (m)
1. A castrated man employed as a harem attendant or as a functionary in certain Asian courts.
2. A man or boy whose testes are nonfunctioning or have been removed.
3. Informal. An ineffectual, powerless, or unmasculine man.
as printed in webster's dictionary

Aug 17 2002 17:05, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46605    Link
C, D and L sitting around table in byard...
L asks what color is auburn?
D says like Laura ingalls

BB says 1 hr until nominations...

Aug 17 2002 17:05, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46610    Link
R says if it was a non-Chiora factor, if she wasn't here and
he was going out of here he would probabl go out and smooch like 9 girls or at least try to. Mentions Hooters. They're giggeling.

Aug 17 2002 17:06, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46611    Link
HG's you have 1 hr until the eviction noms. (BB) NT

Aug 17 2002 17:07, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46612    Link
D's gotta "take the biggest dump" ...more about what she reads when
going potty...
C says she likes to smoke...

(ugh)

Aug 17 2002 17:12, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46619    Link
quad cam - 3 girls on 1 and 2, boys on 3 and 4...
audio is on the girls... L talking about being in Aruba with her friends.. (plane overhead can't hear...)
L continues story - Ja is waving arms on f3 - switching

(whatever feed i go to the hgs are being gross!)

Aug 17 2002 17:18, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46625    Link
A comes out and joins M in his chair... M, G & R there too...
talking about cats....
A recounting an email she got re a dog's diary and cat's diary (ed. note - i have this -very funny!!)
Ja - my grandfather had squirrel - would feed it pecans and gradually trained it to eat out his hand... eventually stopped coming...
(sound fades in & out)
R - my grandmother/father lived by lake in FL - (talking too fast-missed out) Howard their friend - cranes would scanvenge from H's fish leftover... if H didn't go fishing the cranes would be outside his house at 4:45am screaming, wanting fish (lots of laughter..)

Aug 17 2002 17:25, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46642  ParentRootLink
Here's the email that A was talking about....
EXCERPTS FROM A DOG'S DIARY

Day number 180
8:00 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
9:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVOURITE!
9:40 am - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVOURITE!
10:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVOURITE!
11:30 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVOURITE!
1:00 pm - OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVOURITE!
4:00 pm - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVOURITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVOURITE!

Day number 181
8:00 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
9:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVOURITE!
9:40 am - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVOURITE!
10:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVOURITE!
11:30 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVOURITE!
1:00 pm - OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVOURITE!
4:00 pm - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVOURITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVOURITE!

Day number 182
8:00 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
9:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVOURITE!
9:40 am - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVOURITE!
10:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVOURITE!
11:30 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVOURITE!
1:00 pm - OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVOURITE!
1:30 pm - ooooooo. bath. bummer.
4:00 pm - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVOURITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVOURITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVOURITE!

EXCERPTS FROM A CAT'S DIARY

DAY 752 - My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while I am forced to eat dry cereal. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape and the mild satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional piece of furniture. Tomorrow I may eat another houseplant.

DAY 761 - Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving around their feet while they were walking almost succeeded, must try this at the top of the stairs. In an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit on their favourite chair... must try this on their bed.

DAY 765 - Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless body, in attempt to make them aware of what I am capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a good little cat I was...Hmmm. Not working according to plan.

DAY 768 - I am finally aware of how sadistic they are. For no good reason I was chosen for the water torture. This time however it included a burning foamy chemical called "shampoo." What sick minds could invent such a liquid? My only consolation is the piece of thumb still stuck between my teeth.

DAY 771 - There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices. I was placed in solitary throughout the event. However, I could hear the noise and smell the foul odour of the glass tubes they call "beer". More importantly I overheard that my confinement was due to MY power of "allergies." Must learn what this is and how to use it to my advantage.

DAY 774 - I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and maybe snitches. The dog is routinely released and seems more than happy to return. He is obviously a half-wit. The bird on the other hand has got to be an informant, and speaks with them regularly. I am certain he reports my every move. Due to his current placement in the metal room his safety is assured. But I can wait; it is only a matter of time...

Aug 17 2002 17:19, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46629    Link
the camera man is doing close-ups of the HG photo and keys NT

Aug 17 2002 17:21, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46632    Link
more talk about birds - how rice expands in their stomachs (this conversation is litehearted though)
.. now A telling how when in school and she heard the passenger pigeons went extinct she cried and cried...
R now going on about species (missed some) are extinct...

FOTH

Aug 17 2002 17:22, Sat MirageForum: 081702 Post: 46633    Link
Roddy Fact #567.2.3 - 99.999...% of all species who lived on earth are now extinct. (more)
He says this after A relates that in 4th grade she learned about extinct animals, and started crying in class. After Roddy's fact, G says, "cockroaches made the cut."

Aug 17 2002 17:27, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46647    Link
all cams still FOTH NT

Aug 17 2002 17:31, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46652    Link
Feeds back - quad - C, R, Ja, D, & L playing cards on 1 & 2 A & M on 3; A, M & G on 4 NT

Aug 17 2002 17:35, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46657    Link
A loungin on M's lap in the basket chair talking with G..
A - talking about Hiliary Clinton (pic switches to Foth)...

changing feeds to F4

G-A wants to go back to Mexico..
A-no she doesn't - who can A send to Mexico (I think they're talking about America's choice possibilities...)
M-they couldn't have sent me to Mexico..
A-talking about the bugs, humidity, etc..

Aug 17 2002 17:36, Sat blugg73Forum: 081702 Post: 46659    Link
chi chi was nom NT

Aug 17 2002 17:37, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46662    Link
M asks what do cockroaches do to echosystem.. A (mocking R) says..
in scientific voice "they are highly beneficial....

Aug 17 2002 17:39, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46667    Link
(Quad) audio on cardplayers (trying to find out if Nom's done...) NT

Aug 17 2002 17:41, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46671    Link
the cardplayers quiet...talking about the card game - can hear A & G in background NT

Aug 17 2002 17:41, Sat karen72046Forum: 081702 Post: 46673    Link
Nom's have not taken place yet. NT

Aug 17 2002 17:42, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46677    Link
all cam's on G now - he's talking with A but we can't see her anywhere... NT

Aug 17 2002 17:47, Sat PPanForum: 081702 Post: 46687    Link
Gerry & Amy talking in chairs about how hard making the nom's are....G tells A that she will do just fine. Amy seems a bit anxious. NT

Aug 17 2002 17:47, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46688    Link
C called to DR - M goes and joins the cardplayers... G says to A you have to go to work soon..
A - first lady is definitely better...
G- HOH is better - starts talking about M and the chicken livers...
G- one of the great joys of the week was watching Josh eat PB.. it hit R pretty hard too
A- we gotta hurry up and do this so she can fix her nails...
G - it's your moment to be the star
A- I hope I don't have to shed any tears over this...
G- on Thursday?
G- you might (A threatens to throw her drink at G)
G- talks about how Jo acted after being nom'd...
A- fixes mic and then both she and G leave area...
(posting)

Aug 17 2002 17:56, Sat CUTigerForum: 081702 Post: 46712  ParentRootLink
RE Amy leaves area
Amy left the area to find Dani.
She told Gerry she needed to talk to Dani because she might just change things up. (I took that to mean her noms.)
She and Dani went to HoH room, but no sound until the end when Dani said I would never go there. And Amy responded Oh Good.
And that was the end of the conversation.

BB has not started the nom process yet.

Aug 17 2002 17:48, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 46692    Link
NOMINATIONS BEGIN.....
Amy says, 'ok, it is time....'

Aug 17 2002 17:52, Sat PpanForum: 081702 Post: 46704    Link
HG still on patio playing cards, Gerry in big chair....plane noise is loud today.....not starting nom's yet NT

Aug 17 2002 17:55, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46710    Link
nom'd haven't started yet.. A & D went in the hoh (to get snacks) D goes back out
and A follows - runs into C (coming in) and says "You taking your medication?" and goes outside... C goes to counter and takes a pill then back outside..

A and D did whisper something in the DR but it was too low and too fast to catch...

Aug 17 2002 18:03, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 46719  ParentRootLink
Amy told Gerry she needed to ask Dani something and that she "might just switch things up yet." A & D
went to HOH but audio was still outside and you couldn't hear Amy's question. But Dani replied "I will never do that, don't worry" and Amy said she had to ask.

Aug 17 2002 18:06, Sat KADForum: 081702 Post: 46723  ParentRootLink
This is what I seen and heard
Gerry giving Amy pointers
Gerry : Josh was easy, well it was easy to nominate. It was hard living with him that week.
Amy: I need to go talk to Dan (she gets up to go to the table and is standing behind her)
Amy: Can I talk to you min
Dan: Right now.
Amy : Yeah if you can (camera is falling them thru house to HOH room)
Amy: I think I need chocalate.
Dan : What do you have in here to eat. Can I have these Doritos.
Dan leaves , Amy plays with her hair then follows about 15 seconds later.
(I’m not sure if they talked on the way there but Dan grabbed so Doritos and left)

Aug 17 2002 18:13, Sat JaneForum: 081702 Post: 46733  ParentRootLink
re above Amy/Dani had brief conversation in HOH. ...........
Amy had said to Gerry "I just hope I have no reason to cry on Thursday night" (meaning Chiara better be the one evicted not Roddy). Gerry said well you just might be and then started talking about when he was HOH. THis took Amy aback and that's when she cut him off and said she might change it up after all..that she had to talk to Dani.

The feed follows A & D but not the audio. During Amy's question you get plane noise. Next thing I heard was Dani saying to Amy "I would never do that" and Amy being very relieved. Dani and Amy use the snacks as a "cover."

Aug 17 2002 17:59, Sat PpanForum: 081702 Post: 46715    Link
Odd Camera Angle on F4 - the two lounge chairs have Amy telling Kiki a rambling story about a "friend" that stole her journal. NT

Aug 17 2002 18:00, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46717    Link
A & C on the loungers talking and the others at the table playing cards ... NT

Aug 17 2002 18:06, Sat PpanForum: 081702 Post: 46722    Link
Gerry has joined the card game with M, D, J, R, L. Kiki & Amy on loungers. Still haven't done nom's NT

Aug 17 2002 18:09, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46728    Link
A telling long story to C (not interesting) C trying to look interested and asking questions..
(after hearing C say earlier that she hates A and hates her voice) C is (rather quietly and patiently) listening to A drone on...

Aug 17 2002 18:18, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46743    Link
A babbled for 10 min without taking a breath now FOTH (finally!) NT

Aug 17 2002 18:22, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46750    Link
Feeds Back - A & C on loungers, other playing cards... NT

Aug 17 2002 18:26, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46755    Link
camera focused on a bullentin board that had labels for Team A, Team B, Food, etc NT

Aug 17 2002 18:26, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46756    Link
R left cards to take a shower, D in SR now kitchen getting snack, everyone else the same NT

Aug 17 2002 18:30, Sat MirageForum: 081702 Post: 46759    Link
3 differ. Cams!!! Roddy thinking intensely in the shower, D in kitchen, the rest sans A on patio. NT

Aug 17 2002 18:31, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46760    Link
R spending long time in shower - back to the spray, looking pensive... NT

Aug 17 2002 18:34, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46765    Link
Cardplayers talking about Seinfeld... Ja loves it, M doesn't watch it...
A still chatting up a storm on F2 to C...

now someone (A i think) called to the DR)

Cardplayers break it up...

Aug 17 2002 18:34, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46769    Link
BB- Amy please go to the DR NT

Aug 17 2002 18:35, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46771    Link
M "where's my executioner's mask" NT

Aug 17 2002 18:39, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46779    Link
D, Ja & M in kitchen eating cheese dipped in guacamole..D asks C if she wants some..
R out of shower and getting some water...
D and M (minor) spat re him eating the snack...

(come on nom's - enough filler already!!)

Aug 17 2002 18:41, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46783    Link
BB: this is a lockdown go out to the backyard and pull the shades NT

Aug 17 2002 18:42, Sat TurboleeForum: 081702 Post: 46784    Link
BB-HG's this is a lockdown, please go to the backyard and pull shades NT

Aug 17 2002 18:48, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46790    Link
no one's talking... only sound is D playing Bball and the occasional comment on her skills NT

Aug 17 2002 18:49, Sat MirageForum: 081702 Post: 46793    Link
Danielle is shooting baskets by herself, and is doing a pretty good job of it. (You go, girl!) NT

Aug 17 2002 18:53, Sat MirageForum: 081702 Post: 46797    Link
Li just announced to C that she has a sore inside of her nose! NT

Aug 17 2002 18:54, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46800    Link
D's finished with the bball, put screens back down - M tells her to watch out - afraid
she'll hurt herself (she is being a bit careless)... L tells C she's got a sore inside her nose and wonders how they occurr..

BB: HGs lockdown is over...

Aug 17 2002 19:01, Sat MirageForum: 081702 Post: 46810    Link
Ch bro warned her not to go on the show,since girls on it are white trash.C thought she could uplift show. (No lie, this is what C just said to R) NT

Aug 17 2002 19:04, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 46817    Link
LMAO C and R ooutside in BY
C is still whining about how unfair it is that she never got to compete against A. C says her brother warned her about going on the show how it is white trash, with mean vindictive girls. But C says "I thought I could help improve the show. I'm from Manhattan (really?)..." She is speculating about how much crap A has said about her in the DR, and how C is a much better person than trashy A and will be leaving before her.

Now says that she wants to go home where people are good and nice. Newsflash Chiara - you are not Dorothy and this is not Oz (well maybe the HBO Oz...)

Posting

Aug 17 2002 19:04, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46818    Link
R & C talking...
R - are you going to be happy if you're put up? Li said...
C - not happy - she's upset about the way BB has done things...
long pause....
C- feels slighted, I don't wanna go home, but I have to start thinking if i do..
R- that's how I feel... I'd be a fool not to understand this whole life experience
C-but you guys all got a chance, I never even got a chance against going up against someone that I had a chance (thinks she'll be up against R)
C- complaining because she was HOH she never got to compete against "her" meaning A...
C-said she just had a conversation with A for an hour and A didn't ask one question...
pause...
C-she sat there and talked about her (A's) exboyfriend. the only way to have a conversation is to ask her about herself...
C- now talking about trying to make BB3 a better show (missed some)... C saying that A doesn't deserve to stay - they put her up because she was mean and they knew she was coming after them...
R quiet
C-this girl has trashed me i'm sure left and right in the DR and i'm going to walk out before she is...
R-part of the game (missed some)
C-all i could think about last nite was i wanna go home where ppl are good and nice...
R- it's shitty for you, not fair

feeds switched, posting

Aug 17 2002 19:04, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46820    Link
Lock down is over - they can now move about the house, everyone goes in except R & Chi...
He said something like are you going to be happy if you're put up
chi (long pause) I feel slighted. I'll probably go straight home, well no, I guess I'll stay here
missed some
Chi says she's a very competitive person. She talks about POV and how there was one person who didn't get a fair chance and that's me
She puts A down. Says while she talked to a for 1 hour, A didn't ask her not 1 question. She said A talked about her boyfriend. She says blonds are mean and cruel. She thinks that she (chi) is making it a better show. She says that they all knew that they put A up because they knew A would come after them. She says what a wonderful person R is blah blah. R thinks it's unfair for chi.
r says theres' 2 parts he regrets. She said she felt like crying last night. She says she knows the game is competitive but she had thought see would have seen SOME humanity in people. R again says it's not fair to Chi. D comes out & silence

Aug 17 2002 19:05, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46823    Link
R & C outside
C feels slighted because if she is put up she would have no way of winning. She is very competitive. She said she shouldn't have gotten HOH last week if she knew that this was coming.
And someone like her will stay in this house longer over someone like me.
Someone who I just sat with and had a conversation with for an hour and she did not one question about me.
C brother Joel didn't want her to go on the show because the girls who are on the show are White Trash. She wanted to make it better.
She puts me up and you up for vengence. And she is selfish and she doesn't care.
This girl has trashed me left and right in the DR and I will probably walk out before she does.
R: For you it is just not fair. It is a game. I signed up for it to and there are parts I do regret.
C: Of course there are ppl in this house that I love. but...
Lisa comes out convo stops

posting

Aug 17 2002 19:10, Sat MirageForum: 081702 Post: 46828    Link
M/D playing cards in green chairs -M relates that G said, don't believe what Josh said, G wants to go to end with M. NT

Aug 17 2002 19:12, Sat KADForum: 081702 Post: 46831    Link
Just call her Whinaira
Roddy: So you would be relieved if your name is put in there.
Chiara: No, why?
Roddy: Well if your sick of being here you aught to be relieved that your name might be in there.
Chiara: I’m not sick of being here like that. I mean, I’m sick of what they did. And I guess I have to face the chance of going home. It’s not a fair chance. I don’t like being put up against somebody I’ve never had a chance of going against.
Roddy- It is not fair.
Chiara-It would be in my best interest probably not to try for POV because of the chance I might be able to come. Somebody like her, I sat there and listened to her talk for one hour and she didn’t ask one question about me. She sat there and talk about her ex boyfriend and the only way you can have a conversation with her is if you ask her question. My brother didn’t want me to go on this show. He said the show was for trash. What it boils down to is she’s revengeful. She’s coming after me because you put her up. You put her up because you new she was coming after you. For the most of America they will watch you be called out of the DR by some trash. This girl has trashed me up and down. And I haven’t done nothing and I’m going to walk out of here because of her.
Roddy: Well for the most part it is part of the game. It is unfortunate but we both signed up for it.
Chiara: I’d hope you would find some humanity in people here.
Roddy: If I get put up this week, It’s shitty for you it’s really not fair.

Cameraman changed view to Marc and Dan walking thru house they came out to room with green chairs to play cards.

FOH perhaps this is it now.




Aug 17 2002 19:13, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46833    Link
all feeds FOTH NT

Aug 17 2002 19:15, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46838    Link
Marc and Dani pretending to play cards in the bath R to cover plotting and Gerry trashing. >> short >>
Nothing much to report yet, just Marc saying that he is placating Gerry about his wish that the two of them are there at the end. Amy wanders in, so they actually play cards. FOTFH.

Aug 17 2002 19:22, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46844    Link
All Feeds still FOTH NT

Aug 17 2002 19:23, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46846    Link
Mar and Dan trashing G
M says G says he hopes M goes to the end
M also says "You know me I've been trying to get rid of him since day one"
They start clowning around. D acts like old time movie star and says darling but pronounces it "Daling" FOH

Aug 17 2002 19:32, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46858    Link
Feeds back Chiara crying on hammock NT

Aug 17 2002 19:32, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46859    Link
Feeds back! C sniffling in hammock - A crying in HOH talking w/M NT NT

Aug 17 2002 19:37, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46862    Link
Amy's crying
I think it's about the nominations. M says it was perfect. It was brilliant and it was the truth. You spoke from your heart, you spoke passionately. There was no venom. They start talking about power of veto. They mention him and her but did not get names.

Aug 17 2002 19:39, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46866    Link
D to L "We get Chi this week, we get R next week. We can't let them know" NT

Aug 17 2002 19:39, Sat SharkyForum: 081702 Post: 46867    Link
F1&2 Amy and Mar in HOH, Mar complimenting how she did nominations - CH & Roddy
F3 - dani lisa drying dishes
F4 Ch alone outside, crying on hammock

A - If I wouldn't have come back, those 2 would have still gone up
R - yes
A - "I didn't start the song, I'm just dancing to it"

Outside:
R- it never should have happened
Ch - I'm just so upset that (missed it) chance
Rodyy is sitting on hammock w/ch legs in arms
CH - at least if I would have been given a chance, then I should have known I should be up
(She is really crying, R pretty silent)

Ch - was j coming to give me a hug and I just walked away
R - yes, but he understands



Aug 17 2002 19:40, Sat bruheForum: 081702 Post: 46869    Link
Noms over(spoiler)
Out of foh and i see chi going to hammock in tears. sounds on amy and m in hrd talking. she is crying too. m says he has her back totally and that she handled her self perfectly in the ceremony . then the audio cuts to D and Li talking about how its chi this week and then rodd next week. feeds cut out. reloading

Aug 17 2002 19:40, Sat GingerForum: 081702 Post: 46870    Link
wow...she did it...it's Roddy and Chiara NT

Aug 17 2002 19:42, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46872    Link
in the HOH...
M giving A a pep talk in the HOH - saying her speech was good - honest, etc..
A - those 2 would have been up anyways...
(she must have nommed R & C)

Switched feeds...

D and L whispering
L says M wants to talk to her
D coaches her to say they are going after C this week

Back on A & M...
A not crying anymore - A says here's your key and pretends to throw it (meaning at C I think)

M says he has to get HOH next week

D comes in and says you did a good job A (they hug)

rehashing what A said - saying that A's speech was truthful...

A- when I was up (arg! feeds switched again)

Aug 17 2002 19:44, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46874    Link
(Spoiler) A & M
talking about Chi and how A speech was good because what she said was true about how chi never had anything to do with anyone except her girl (Ton) when she was here. A mentions she couldn't nom G. They say Chi is not going out gracefully. D says if Chi gets veto she will take R out

Aug 17 2002 19:52, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46881    Link
in the hammock...
Now on C still in the hammock crying - talking to R (off camera)

C- I don't want this to be a numbers game "I got 1 more vote than you so I get to stay..."

L comes out and C calls her over...

R- if I can speak for both of us, you're always welcome L. He's trying to lighten the mood a bit..

L-this sucks, it feels like i'm going through all of this over again - she yells 3 weeks!!

R- I get the sympathy vote - I've been up/will be up for 14 days, I get the sympathy vote..

L-no I do - I was up, Eric left, Eric had the chance to come back, he doesn't...

R -thinks that J only voted for A to come back because he was afraid of E coming back into the house... How Ja esentially f*cked over E, and now C...

C- Speak of the Virgin and he shall come...

J and D come out - J's got the lizards... D's gives C a kiss and sits down with them...

D - this is the time you need a cigarette...

Talking about crying...

A comes out and goes over to J and the lizards - long shot of C watching them...

Aug 17 2002 19:57, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46887    Link
R's take on D so far...
C gets up to use the can..

L asks R - what's going on in your head...

R - it was akward to see G pull his key out...Li agreeing...

R - I think no matter how you slice it, G goes out... recounts a conversation with M how he wants him out too... Li sympathic and agreeing...

R - talking about mathimatical probabilities and how G and A still in the game...

R - even if I go, "this isn't make a wish foundation" - talking about someone saying "I can't go up, I can't go up" (meaning Danielle) I think that is the biggest con....thinks A was afraid to put up D...

C back - R saying again this isn't make a wish foundation - D playing family strings and playing the other hgs... thinks everyone has been bamboozled by D's sad story...

Aug 17 2002 19:58, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46891    Link
R to C and L on the hammock

R:I want to say to Dani before I leave this house and I don't want either one of you to say anything before I do.
they nod
R: This isn't a Make a Wish Foundation. She is not underpriviledge. And she is working for everyone else to go up and she is insistant that she will not go up on the block.

Aug 17 2002 19:59, Sat bruheForum: 081702 Post: 46894    Link
And the power shift continues.
Talk between A D and M about securing the veto power to ensure chiara goes. there seemed to be talk about taking roddy off ??? feeds acting up. i thought iheard talk about taking roddy off but then putting him back up the next week if they can. now ja and d talking. it was a very emotional nominations ceremony. earlier amy offered D some ice cream and she said "no after all of that i need a shot of tequila." lo
they move into the LR and kitchen. Gerry laying low. D joins R, C, and L by hammock but the audio is on amy.
she says its not a revenge thing its about people she is close to. she said she had a prepared speech but didnt use it.
gerry being supportive... amy says i need a cigar.
looks like ja is playing with the lizards outside. amy joins him.
gerry putters in the kitchen.
ed note. last year was better when they showed noms live.
roddy has a very contemplative look on his face. as he has his hands folded over chiaras knees.. she is laying on him. lisa biting her nails again (she does this alot when she is uncomfortable or nervous).
gerry talking about the lizards with ja. seems like these two are all about anything but the game right now.. laying low.
these cbs production people suck as they are focsing on the prodigal amy and her stories instead of the more interesting aftermath of roddy and chi getting nominated.

Aug 17 2002 20:00, Sat bcomfyForum: 081702 Post: 46895    Link
by the hammock.....
Roddy has caught up to Dani game. Said she is playing the pity role. He may be gearing up to come after her.

Aug 17 2002 20:02, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46898    Link
more (short) R, L & C
R - I shouldn't have mentioned that, but it's pretty good Oliver Stone on my part...

Tells L and C not to mention anything - and talks about body language...

now R saying if he had known that the evicted hgs were coming back there's no way he would have wanted HOH...

G comes out brings chocolate - he and C hug... G sits down and L gets up and leaves...

Start talking about chocolate..

Aug 17 2002 20:04, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46903    Link
Roddy is lecturing Lisa on the true facts of randomness.
He talks of over a million flips of a coin, it will average half heads and half tails, but that that fact doesn't predict any individual flip. Then he spoils it by saying the really amazing thing would be a string of heads, tails, heads, tails, . . . "That would be perfection." (Wrong, a sting of all heads has exactly the same probability and is equally perfect). Anyway, this is his explanation for why things in the game don't go as planned. Understand now?

Chi has joined them on the hammock (Lisa is on the ground, appropriately at Roddy's feet). Roddy rambles some more about things not turning out as you plan and the trials that other nominators have faced. Chi brings up the tub thing again. Roddy says that he didn't even think about the implications of that decision. Gerry comes over and offers them something. (my picture has gone wonky, so I can't see). Roddy orders a double double", but the offer seems to be chocolate. Lisa leaves and the remaining 3 eat chocolate and discuss chocolate. Roddy off on some tangent now. Something about committing suicide. Gerry mentions that a couple of hundred have jumped off the Golden Gate bridge - all facing the city. That shows that they wanted to live. Time to post.

Aug 17 2002 20:08, Sat terrylynnnForum: 081702 Post: 46907    Link
you heard it here first Roddy and Chiara on the Block
Everyone thought that Roddy had talked Amy out of putting him up and thaqt she was going to put up Jason ands Chiara instead, but apparently dani's words hit home and also mar tried to talk her back into it also, but its done and Chiara ansd Roddy are nominated

Aug 17 2002 20:10, Sat RantoForum: 081702 Post: 46909    Link
Gerry & Roddy discuss suicide bridges (more -- short)
Roddy mentions a bridge where people come to commit suicide & then another that is nearbye.

Gerry mentions that 500+ people have jumped off the Golden Gate bridge -- but all but about 20 jumped off the side facing the city (the other side faces the ocean). Roddy says that it shows they still care about life.

NOTE: here is a web page about GG suicides. The actual number is ove 1000. While some have said they went there because it is a beautiful place to die, I suspect that they face the city because they are coming from SF, not from Marin County. They'd have to cross six lanes of traffic to jump from the other side.

http://www.newsport.org/archive/f96/bridge/psych.htm

Aug 17 2002 20:11, Sat terrylynnnForum: 081702 Post: 46911    Link
Chiapet already crying foul!
Even before the noms Chiara spent an hour sucking up to amy and then went to Rod and started complaining she said"If i get put out of this house by her, I will feel slighted and if i leave this show will be nothing but white trash. and that was before she was nominated saying it wasnt fair for her to be on the block cuz amy shouldnt even be there.

Aug 17 2002 20:12, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46912    Link
L & M
She said R said G goes up next week and that seems like a contradiction
M says G cornered me and was trying to absolve him self of the j thing. G told me he had my back. I can't wait to get rid of G he's the aniti-christ.
L says more about R saying just the oposite
She said g came around and she said she had to go.
They said he thinks he's going to stay. Then saying the reasons he must go because each week he'll say someone else has to go so he can stay.
M says he's so mad at Chi & R for pressuring Ja so bad. missed some
Why do they think that's ok. From the time they nom you and E she thought they had full power. L tells of chi being jealous and rolling her eyes at D for saying there are pretty girls in the house and how Chi wanted to be the only girl in the house.

Aug 18 2002 20:04, Sun AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 48977  ParentRootLink
Lola....THAT TRANSCRIPT IS VERY UNCLEAR NT NT

Aug 17 2002 20:14, Sat terrylynnnForum: 081702 Post: 46915    Link
Lisa and Marcellas comparing roddy adn chiara and dani notes, chiara in the kitchen working Jason NT

Aug 17 2002 20:19, Sat PhantomForum: 081702 Post: 46922    Link
Lisa is reporting back to Marc that Roddy thinks he is absolutely safe this week.
Marc is relating that Roddy has false impressions of the true alliances in the game. Marc is talking about all the pressure on Jason and how it has made him unreliable. They blame Roddy and Chi for that and still say that Jason is trustworthy, and that he will be better when Chi/Roddy are gone. Lisa crapping on Chi. They seem to think (at the moment) that Chi goes this week, and Roddy next week. Marc says he is voting against Chi because he has never seen Roddy do something directly to him (wasn't that Roddy's excuse for continuing to support Josh?). He is saying that Chi was the one who did everything, but Marc says that Chi isn't smart enough to have come up with the plan. Lisa is clearly on to Roddy's plan to seduce her allegiance. Marc recommends that Lisa play along and even make a deal with Roddy. Roddy knows that Chi is gone, so he is looking for another supporter. Marc is trashing Roddy and his tactics and decisions so far. (he could easily be moved to vote against Roddy, if he believes himself)

Aug 17 2002 20:19, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46923    Link
Mar "He's the mastermind behing everyhting cause Chi's not smart enough"
I havent't exactly seen him doing anything but everything happens all around him for his benefit. All that with Jo and all that with Chi was all for his benefit.

Aug 17 2002 20:20, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46925    Link
L & M in the HOH
L - I want to talk to you... I took a nite off from the game last nite and R pulled me over to the hammock - R told her he'd heard M and G conspiring in the map room...

L - R just contradicted himself by saying the R & M talking all last nite and agreeing that G was up next week

M - recounting how G was telling M that Jo was telling stories, which is what R overheard...

L - says how what R told her went against everything she knows about M
(feed switches arg!!)

L- I just wanted to let you know what I was thinking...

M (whispers) R thinks he's going to stay (L he does).. M thinks R is working his agenda in anticipation of next weeks vote to get G out...

(missed some) now L is recounting how not to trust Ja because he voted out E... M is scandalized...by C first stacking votes and trying to control people..

L tells story how C rolled her eyes the other nite when D commented on there being another pretty girl in the room (in response to why Ja couldn't sleep) D told L that C is jealous of her...

M and L agree that R is working them... that first Jo and then C were doing R's dirty work...

M - but i love how he just went to you about G - M says at the time R pretended to be asleep...

M thinks that G's "Mr. Magoo's" act is a show - saying G is a teacher - he can't be that stupid..

L says R now talks to her about the game (meaning that R is trying to play her)

M says R will be on L soon saying that R will say he wants to be across from her at the end...

M talking about C's blatent disrespectful attitude at the nomination table.

M tells L about his and C's conversation last nite - they went back and forth but didn't agree on things... C's getting out Jo was ultimately self-serving.

M says C thought M used T as a decoy - M says he wanted T to go, that C was just wrong. Says C and T were mean to A, ant that relates directly to A's speech....

A coming in...

Aug 17 2002 20:21, Sat KADForum: 081702 Post: 46927    Link
Everything since nominations LONG
Yahoo Hooray for Amy
Amy seems to have put Roddy and Chiara up together!

Roddy and Chiara in hammock and she’s bawling.
Chiara: I’m sorry I put you up on the block again because of me.
Roddy: I’m sorry too.
Chiara: At least if I would have given a chance then I would have known I should have been put up.

I’m switching feeds. I don’t want to see the tears.

Marc: We’ll obviously are plan is [censored] up then. We’ll have to get him out.
I was trying so hard to keep…Lisa comes in takes something then leaves.
Marc: Everybody in this house has plans to put him up. I’m positively wet with the idea.

She’s talking with her hand practically up her mouth and it’s hard to hear what she’s saying. Dan comes in

Dan: You did a great job.
Marc: What’s perfect about it is that it’s the truth. She didn’t want nothing to do with anybody but her girls and Roddy.
Amy: When I was upset and falling apart it was all over you ({Chiara}- Amy’s rehashing her speech). And Gerry was there to support me when I was all upset(Chiara must have brought up something nasty about Gerry and Amy was defending him). Gerry was there. And I wasn’t going to nominate him.
I didn’t want to risk putting Gerry and Jason up and risk losing them over Chiara. I made sure I had the keys in the box right. When it was getting to the end I was thinking where’s the rest of the keys.
Dan: Now we just have to get POV.
Amy: There is a problem. I can’t get POV …..then mumbles a bunch of crap. We can’t risk him being taken out. That was brought up to me last night.
Dan: Jason won’t mess with it. If Chiara gets it she said she would take Roddy out that’s ok.
Amy: Then who would I put in.
Dan: Don’t worry about it. We’ll get it.
Dan: I want a shot of tequila.
Amy: Oh damn I have to put them keys up , back on the wall.

Amy’s walking and talking with Gerry in the house now

Amy: It’s about everybody I’ve been close to the house. It wasn’t about revenge. It was about who I felt close to.
Gerry: You did a good job, you spoke from your heart.

Amy and Dan at patio chair and Amy is smoking a cigar.


Amy the story that got me that I heard about when I was out was the story about the miners. When I told her about miners. It was a human interest story it was on 24 hours a day for like 3 days. What had happened they where digging close to this abandon mine. And they busted in the other mine and it flooded….(this cracks me up, because this happened in my home town and she knows all the details, she knows about the air hole and the different drill bits, about the lunch pail that was floating by them on day 3 with the sandwich, about Blain being in there with his father law, and our new governor being there for the entire direction, she said she read about it.)
Dan: Oh my god, did anybody live.
Amy: All nine of them (9 for 9)
Dan: all of them , OMG
Amy: They where all ok and only had to stay in hospital a day.


Feed on Lisa and Marc

Lisa: I hope I’m coming to you confidentially.
Marc: Of course.
Lisa: Roddy said he over a conversation saying that Marc and Gerry have a deal. Now, while Chiara was in bathroom he said he and you where talking last night with him and he said you and Roddy have a deal that Gerry would be evicted next week.
Marc: Repeats what she said. Gerry cornered me, he was trying to dissolve himself from the Josh alignment. I new Roddy was in map room. Gerry was just trying to reassure himself that I wouldn’t be coming up after him. And you know everything I’ve said I can’t stand Gerry.
Lisa: That’s what I thought I just wanted to verify.
Marc: Roddy thinks he’s going to stay. He thinks we are going to put Gerry up next week. If we don’t turn around and get Roddy out next week. Roddy is saying he has to stay so he’s throwing out all these other things to get people off of nominating him next week.
Lisa: He said you can’t trust Jason because he gave his word and then he voted to evict Eric.
Marc: Why do they think it’s all right. She told me yesterday that she did everything for the good of the house.
Lisa: She’s taking this power thing to a whole other level. Now Roddy’s trying to F*** with my head the last 24 hours.
Marc: I haven’t seen them directly doing. Everything Josh and Chiara did was for Roddy’s benefit. You want to give them a benefit of the doubt. But I told Roddy the other day. I said its guilt by associate. He said Roddy said what ever Chiara does she does on her own she don’t come to me and discuss it first.
Lisa: Roddy has never talked to me about the game. When Eric was there he talked to him with me there. Since Eric left he hasn’t talked to me.
Marc: He’ll come to you next and say that if Chiara goes it’s me and you in the end.
Marc: You have seen Chiara’s true character at the table. She’s going to nothing but fu** herself all week.
Lisa: She’s going to get in a big argument with Amy.
Marc: She thinks she did this magnificent jester. No she did it because Josh turned on her. Just like they put Amy because she found out Amy was going to put them up. I was offended by Tonya. Things she said in passing about Racial things and I didn’t think BB should have brought that level of trash into this house.


Amy comes in



Aug 17 2002 20:27, Sat mosiegirl2Forum: 081702 Post: 46930    Link
marc says "chi has GOT to go ! " he says he's doing this for the house... NT

Aug 17 2002 20:27, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46931    Link
Mar says "If you see something and look the other way, you are guilty of something. It may not be illegal, but you're guilty" NT

Aug 17 2002 20:29, Sat mosiegirl2Forum: 081702 Post: 46932    Link
Chi says she told jason to vote to evict her... NT

Aug 17 2002 20:33, Sat AnonymousForum: 081702 Post: 46934    Link
Just when you start to feel a little sorry for C - bam - she shows you why you hate her so much...
C is admonishing R for saying too much about D in front of L. C also says to R to stop reminding L that C voted to evict her. R says do you really think she's forgotten. C responds "Every f'n day i am trying to get closer to her..." (she is totally being friendly with L for strategy reasons)

C says to R "I just want you to know that I told J to evict me". When R doesn't drop to his knees in gratitude, she repeats it "just so you know".

Aug 17 2002 20:35, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46935    Link
A M & L in HOH
talking about chi and how she's trying to get A to put up G when A & G were friends in the house before A left. M says A is right where she was before she left and it doesn't matter that chi is trying to say all the things G did in the past couple of weeks.

Aug 17 2002 20:35, Sat mosiegirl2Forum: 081702 Post: 46936    Link
chi says she does blame jason for a lot of stuff thats gone on.. she hates how...
he shifts loyalties..and that she doesn't trust him anymore... she says that jason is strong, but not experienced in anything... roddy says that with jason, you can't just come right out and say something... you have to pussyfoot around him... softly work into the conversations... she says she has NO respect for marc now... and she detests amy.

Aug 17 2002 20:36, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46939    Link
A, M & L in HOH
A says she got a souvenir - an electric eel...

A says she can't win veto cause she promised R she'd take him off..

A telling L how when M was HOH she told him jokingly "Put me up, put me up" and last nite he did the same...

laughing...

M discussing C & her strategy of putting up R against J last week on one had... commenting that G told Jo that he blew it when Jo went off.. if Jo hadn't, he would still be here.. M going off on how Jo played the game (same old)

M equating R ignoring Jo & C's behavior to someone walking by an accident and ignoring it - didn't cause the accident, but guilty by association...

speculating when they would have been booted if Jo had remained in the house...

M "Oh God. I'm doing this for the house." mocking C... talking how C wants to change rules to suit her.

A - says C threatened her

L the one about how 1 member of the couple will go after them?

A- Says she told C how "I didn't start this".. M interrupts... A continues saying C said to her "you can do the obvious but you will make enemies, and two wrongs don't make a right, or you can take the easy path and get rid of the giant"

(lost feeds) M talking, saying A and G were friends before A left the house, why would A listen to C and put up her frientd? If E had returned, E would have continued playing R's game and gone after G...

A says she wasn't going after R, but was targeting C - decided that R had to go up because if he gets veto it's too dangerous...

Ja interrupts and says Ab class in 20 minutes...

conversation resumes... L says that R doesn't want C around... M says R will be coming around... M gets ups to get something...

posting

Aug 17 2002 20:38, Sat mosiegirl2Forum: 081702 Post: 46943    Link
chi says shes "not having fun anymore' in the house... she says its a 'very stuffy feeling now' NT

Aug 17 2002 20:38, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46944    Link
Amy on Tonya "I never, ever said anything bad about her in this house... well ...except gossipy stuff" NT

Aug 17 2002 20:41, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46946    Link
More A & L
A says she saw T's video trashing her, and that she can't get over it...

A says she sat in her trailer the other day if she got in the house, she'd nominate R & C..

A says she wanted to be HOH the week C left because of the things C and T have said to her... C/T kept pushing pushing buttons and making A uncomfortable...

L says C was horrible when L was up, and was bossy when she was HOH...

Discussing how they catch C staring at them... saying how C says she hates BB, versus can't she just appreciate the unique experience....

M back in the room...

Aug 17 2002 20:44, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 46949    Link
L out of the HOH - looks like C cornered her and wanted to know where or why L was...
L says she had to vent about putting up the couples and M was the only one in a locked room ... (lol - good cover L)

C seems placated... now C philosophying how playing the game is secondary to meeting a terrific guy...

Aug 17 2002 20:50, Sat QuenchForum: 081702 Post: 46953    Link
C talking to L in HRD
C talking about how the beginning of the relationships are on tape and how she new when she saw Roddy that they would have something special outside of the house. And how from past BB's that the couples are put up. L is just nodding not saying much. Brief silence then..

C: Are you going to try for POV
L: I don't think it really matters.
C: Yes it does
L: Last weeks with the memory test I knew I had it. I could have thrown it.
C not getting the kind of answers she wants leaves the room

Aug 17 2002 20:55, Sat KADForum: 081702 Post: 46960    Link
Marc and Amy
Marc: She thinks we should get rid of Gerry because he’s as evil as Josh. I’m sorry she’s played the game too.
Amy: She was never nice to me except the week I was leaving in these day’s of HOH.
Marc: This week she like Gerry did this and Gerry did that. It doesn’t matter, Amy is stuck in the week that she left. Gerry was nice to her while she was here.
Marc: He’s going to make deals this week. It’s going to be me and you to the end.
Amy: I sat in the trailer that day and I said If I get back into that house I will get HOH and nominate Roddy and Chiara. I wanted to be HOH the week she left. Just because of the things her and Tonya said to me that made me feel uncomfortable.

Lisa and Chiara in HRD

Chiara: I’m going to be in the gym next week.
Lisa: It pisses me off. This whole couple thing sucks. Hardy started this all last year.
Chiara: Can I tell you something. Your chances of winning the money are slim. You may not win the money but you have an amazing guy. From the moment I met Roddy, I was like game what. It wasn’t about game it was about I was fortunate enough to have met him. I’m looking forward to spending time with him outside of the game.
Chiara: Do you think anybody will go for the POV. If they have it.
Lisa: Of course they will have the POV. The thing with the POV is it is pointless. Unless you win it.

Back to HOH room

Marc: Tonya was not a nice person.
Amy: Friday morning there will be eight person in the house.
Marc: Wouldn’t it be funny if Josh comes back. Honey there would be a mass exit of people to get the hell out. People would crush each other to get out. Or what if they brought Josh and Tonya back together.
Marc: If I get HOH next week, I’m putting Gerry up. Dan wants me to put up Roddy.
Amy: Only because she’s afraid of him. She said if you got it you would put up Gerry.



Aug 17 2002 20:56, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 46962    Link
BB "Amy come to the DR" M in HOH "Oh God if you aren't doing ab class, I aint movin. Make sure that doors locked when you go!" NT

Aug 17 2002 21:00, Sat RTSForum: 081702 Post: 46965    Link
Chiara to Dani: I would have never left that hot tub if I had a chance to compete
Dani is in the hammock. Chiara is sitting on the ground next to the hammock.

Chiara is saying Big Brother really f*cked her up. If she knew about that a houseguest was returning she would have thrown HoH. Chiara knew that the remote chance of Amy coming back would have been her death.

If Chiara had a chance to compete in the tub for HoH. She would have stayed in that tub foreever. And if she lost, then she could live with leaving the house.

Chiara says it is not fair Amy coming back. She was able to have a vacation and get a sample of her fame out of the house. Of course she is going to try to stay in that tub to get more TV time.

Aug 17 2002 21:38, Sat RMUForum: 081702 Post: 47004    Link
all 4 feeds on Guys working out NT

Aug 17 2002 21:40, Sat Miss_NatalieForum: 081702 Post: 47008    Link
Quad Cam: The MEN working out on all 4 feeds. (My 1st post, so excited!) NT

Aug 17 2002 22:07, Sat bcomfyForum: 081702 Post: 47034    Link
Lock down for the house guest NT

Aug 17 2002 22:10, Sat Miss_NatalieForum: 081702 Post: 47039    Link
Girlfriends
BB- Roddy please put on your microphone

Marcellas remarks how Gerry (?) farted while doing triceps. D and L crack up. They wonder if it was that loud. Marcellas says that they were on the bench and they heard it. Asked if he said excuse me, Marcellas says that by that time the damage was done. lol.

M complaining about him having a butt waddle ( ref: Ally McBeal). L assures him that it's water weight and that it will go away if he takes something or other and she has the same thing.

L and C in HRD

C- This is why it's good to have a gf.
Referring to L bringing her ice cream while she wallows in her misery.
C explains that w/ her girlfriends we'd just have to say spoons and we knew to bring ice-cream,etc.

C-Is it any surprise that the one person that couldn't compete...It's like we're going to have a race but we're going to chop off your legs. Says now she knows why Eric was so upset that he left w/ G still there knowing that he had competed so well. That's what's f'ing with her, not knowing who was coming in (returning). C says she would have never left that tub. L funny thing is that she wouldn't have either (A). C that's why I was encouraging everyone but her to stay in the tub, cept Roddy who jumped out SO fast. (grudge, yeah I think so!)

Hard to understand what they're saying around their mumbling and ice-cream.

L reminds C that Amy didn't come into the house w/ M, but she met him in here and she is here to play the game too. She was friends with G. A wasn't here for all the gross stuff. Is surprised that M didn't push her towards G (noms).

L-sucks that we're getting so emotionally involved.
C-Spending 2 days crying. I love ice-cream.
L-Me too.
c-if I get out of here, I'll make sure to call Eric and make sure that we hang out. Any messages?
L-Just tell him I say hi.
C-That's it?
L-I talk to him everyday in the diary room, I don't know if it gets out or not though.

Nasty sounds of them swallowing ice-cream (disgusting! Darn hi-quality mics).

Can hear Danielle leading abs class.

BB-HG this is a lockdown, please go to the backyard and pull the shades.
L-Yeah, yeah, yeah

L and C leave the HRD and go outside.

Posting

Aug 17 2002 22:23, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47055    Link
Amy needed Gerry to open her nail polish. She says the house is too cold for it.
Roddy - you're my best student
Amy - I don't like Math can we do English instead

Aug 17 2002 22:27, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47059    Link
BB - Amy please lift the shades on the back windows
Amy - just a second big brother i'm just painting my nails. It's just a clear coat so it won't lift up, like u care.
Marc helps her open the shades.
Lisa & Danielle are prepping for dinner.
Amy had subway for dinner on Tuesday, they let her chose anything she wanted from the menu.


Aug 17 2002 22:31, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47067    Link
Lisa is pissed off at Chiara
Lisa is telling Dani about Chiara saying if she's gone, she's gonna hang out with Eric. And asked her if Lisa had anything to say to him, lisa said that pissed her off the most. THen Dani goes and checks on Chiara who is sleeping. Chiara says something then Dani goes 'I understand". Chiara 'Thanks for checking on me though'

Aug 17 2002 23:19, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47163    Link
Cast party / CHIARA RANT (long)
Roddy asked in the DR if the cast party was in the house at the end, and he said no but that was a good idea.
Amy said that Arnold said it is in the studio lot.
Roddy said that someone told him that it was in a bar every year
Amy it would be really weird to see Julie in the house.. get out of here you don't belong here
Amy - i was here when lori walked out and you [roddy] said once your out you can never come in.
roddy - i remember that. i said cbs wouldn't let you on the lot
amy - somebody came
in the kitchen
chiara- i never had the option to compete against her [amy]. It's not fair. I'm a competative person. If amy was here last week I would have put her up. Did I have the chance to compete against her. It's NOT FAIR. All i wanted was the same chance she got. What they threw at is fine, but make it an even playing field. I don't care about what the game is
Dani - you just wanted to compete
Chiara - I would have got rid of Marcellas or Gerry not even Gerry for stragetic reason. I got rid of one person that everyone agreed on.
**more talk on how josh was evil**
dani laughs
chiara - this girl comes back and I get no chance. No chance.
Dani - Chiara do u think you're gonna walk out that door
Chiara - it doesn't matter if I walk out that door. it's not fair. I'm not being like a josh you are all backstabbers. But if you choose to throw me out fine.. if she does that's not fair i didn't have the chance to compete.
Dani - I'm sorry
Chiara- What are you thinking
Dani _ nothging
Chiara - oh so now you don't think?
Dani - I'm sealed.
Chiara- What do you mean you're sealed
Dani _ I have things going on in my head. I'll tell you if trust me
Chiara - I trust me you
Dani _ i got your back
Chiara - I know you do.. [ they hug]
Chiara - I would still be in that hot tub with her.. i would not give it up
Chiara - I know if you could do anything you'd do it. I'm not blaming you, I"m just talking to you as a friend
Dani - And let's leave it at that
Chiara starts playing solitare
Chiara - U know how marc says he never had a chance before we put him up, and how frustrating it is. I love how you said you're being a josh.
DAni - I don't want you in that room. I just don't want you in that room starring at the lizards.
Chiara - I won't be like that. I won't lie, I was just really really upset. Eric was upset because he almost HOH, but I didn't even get to do that. I didn't even get a shot. Not one shot. That's what the game should be about.
Dani - it's like when
chiara - it should be everyone should be on an even playing field.
dani - there should be a rule list and a schedule saying this week are doing this, and this week we are doing that. at least we'd know
Chiara - It's not fair because she got rest. 85% of this game is sitting in this house. It's not about the games or the gossip, you just got to sit and smile
For someone to get spending money, drink every night, to have people come up to her, reading material. then FOTH

Aug 17 2002 23:20, Sat LolaForum: 081702 Post: 47167    Link
Chi to D I didn't even get a shot
I'm so fu8**** pis*** cause I didn't get one shot. It's not about HOH and the other competitons. It's not about any of that. It's about keeping a smile on your face. And then someone gets to spend all that money and come back refreshed and I got to do blah, blah, blah.... FOH

Aug 17 2002 23:32, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47198    Link
Chiara could you please come to the DR NT

Aug 17 2002 23:43, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47222    Link
R- I've been talking to myself for 40 days, I feel like moses. In the beginning I used to explain it, now I'm like picking my ass...
and saying HA YOU LIKE THAT!!!

Aug 17 2002 23:53, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47239    Link
Roddy - Chat rooms are lit up right now "Jay's Colon Theory"
they are talking about how they use a LOT of toliet paper. Jason is commenting how the houseguests dimish they are using more toliet paper. Jason wonders if before they were nervous to go, and now they are becoming more regular with it.
Jason - you're all just jealous cause I'm more regular than all of you. If I don't go 2 or 3 times a day something is not right.
Roddy - I've never seen someone so happy to go to the bowl.. everyone get out of my way

Aug 17 2002 23:54, Sat jewleeahgooliaForum: 081702 Post: 47243    Link
Amy- I feel likke going to my room and Hiding.. I feel so bad (about the chiara thing) NT


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