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Aug 23 2002 00:00, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 58825    Link
The HGs get their food - lots of veggies, Gerry says it's middleastern. NT

Aug 23 2002 00:12, Fri saboForum: 082302 Post: 58844    Link
sad,empty,quiet....(roddy s statement of this moment.)... NT

Aug 23 2002 00:28, Fri saboForum: 082302 Post: 58881  ParentRootLink
more........(dannielle crying,etc......) LONG......
Hg sitting around table eating.food looks good.(spome veggies,green beans,carrots..etc,chicken and what looks like beef.flat brad.)
little takl here and there.roddy tells how he saw the blanket right before the second roundof questionson a live show but was trying not to cry,didint want to let chiara know he knows.....
someone makes a comment,marcellas will be happy about dinner.....lots of veggies (as i think he s not eating with them cause he s i n DR...)
they all coment how small table is and how it s quiet and getting lonely...
lisa said earlier how she doesnt like the new table causeit makes her feel big....(as if they grew and not the table got smaller....)
jason says he didnt get letter in his basket,probubly cause he already got one as AC few weeks ago......
seems like dinner is slowly over....
danielle crying in HRD now all by herself,bawling..has her head in her hands...realy opset....has a tissue and keeps wipping her eyes....mumbles something (like "i dont understand...."not sure though hard to hear....)
dannys all red in face,sobbing,biting her lip......she looks at her pictures (and camera zooms in on them too....)she s also stomping her leg on the floor saying "damn,damn damn..." (it must be all the stress from lying and manipulating.....)
no one came to check up on her yet.....it s been awhile.......
roddy comes in,says "whats wrong kid?"
she says "i hate this game.i hate this game..."
he says "what do u hate about it..?"
roddy says "nobody died,nobody got sick..."he also says "imagine how many people are thinking today "i wish my biggest problem was that my friend got voted out of television show..."
danny says "it s true"..
lisa comes in.....roddy relating what are they talking about....
says i think the transition stage was when eric got voted out,that s when we all got scared nad that s when this house started getting smaller (pharaphasing...)

FOTH..


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Aug 23 2002 00:16, Fri thats_the_ol_jayForum: 082302 Post: 58849    Link
Dani crying alone in the HRD NT

Aug 23 2002 00:18, Fri RMUForum: 082302 Post: 58854  ParentRootLink
D sobbing hard, whispers "I hate this game" NT

Aug 23 2002 00:37, Fri BB3_Fan_DEForum: 082302 Post: 58894  ParentRootLink
Why is she crying? NT *DELETED*
Post deleted by Sarah

Aug 23 2002 00:28, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 58882    Link
Roddy comes in and comforts Dani, states "no one died".
States that how many people have problems that include their friends getting voted out of the house? Dani agrees, seems to feel better.
Lisa enters and joins the conversation. They discuss the sleeping arrangements. Lisa says she doesn't mind leaving the room. Roddy states the same, says he isn't moving his stuff out until tomorrow.

Aug 23 2002 00:37, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 58893    Link
Dani crying, Roddy comforting her. Everyone missing Chiara.
R: What you thinkin' there kid.

D: Nothing. I hate this game. I hate it.

R hugs D.

R asks what she hates, she says just the game.

R talking about Chiara, how it's okay to be sad, but to put it in perspective.

R: Just think, how many people's biggest problem today is that their friend got voted off television.

Both joking about how they used to make fun of the reality show contestant who cried over people they'd only known a couple weeks.

R: You get so used to them.

Lisa comes in.

R saying that Eric leaving was the first really hard eviction, even Josh leaving was hard.

FOTH

Now talking about where they'll sleep.

Roddy looking very sad, looks like he's starting to cry again. Dani watching him.


L: It's amazing what an emotional roller coaster this is.

R: There's a part of me that wishes I was on pb&j so there's something to get your mind off what's happened.

R asks how long they've been there. They talk abotu how much longer they have.

R: Can't we just play a game of musical chairs and get this over.

L says she's looking forward to when it's over and they can look back and not remember the pain and the sadness.

R saying tonight would have been perfect for a couple beers. (ed. BB didn't give them alcohol tonight)

R asks D if she wants to share the big bed with Lisa. D says she's scared of that bed. R says he'll share it with Lisa, but it would look bad to Chiara and Eric.

Lisa packing things, picks up the pic of her and Eric.

Dani and R discuss the pic Kiki gave him. He says BB could have given them a more flattering pic.

Silence again. Roddy looking very sad.

Aug 23 2002 00:40, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 58896    Link
Lisa feeling guilty
I've made 2 decisions now that...

L: I hope I don't lose part of myself in this place.

Aug 23 2002 00:41, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 58898    Link
Dani and Lisa alone in HRD as Roddy goes to ask for alcohol.
Lisa worried about things getting harder. Hoping she won't lose part of herself in this place, times when she doesn't feel guilty she gets scared. Lisa thinks that Jason won't be able to put Roddy up. Thinks he already had in his mind who he would nominate. Dani states she will talk to him.
Marc. walks in they stop the current discussion.

Aug 23 2002 00:42, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 58901    Link
Marc reminds D and L that Chiara "did them dirty." ; Roddy asks for alcohol and they are going to get beer/wine. NT

Aug 23 2002 00:48, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 58905    Link
Roddy talks to Lisa alone...
R says that it is "unbelievable". Roddy wants to swap stories. Lisa says she knows that this week has been hard and is unsure how she wants to play the game. Lisa says this week was a hard choice, as Chi did her wrong so should she stay true to her or someone who didn't do her wrong. Says she changed her mind in the diary room. Scares her, she is confused.
Sick of letting other people help her figure it out.
She says she is learning there are a lot of "sneaks" in the place that make others do their dirty work. Doesn't like this game.

Roddy says the less you play the game, he thinks the better you play it.

Aug 23 2002 00:51, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 58909    Link
Dani and Lisa are lone in the HRD. They look very sad
(I buy it from Lisa). Dani says, "Please help me to keep focused." Lisa says, "I just hope I don't lose part of myself in this place." Lisa says that she thinks Jason already has his idea of who to put up, and that he doesn't have the guts to put Roddy up. Dani just says, "we'll see." a couple of times. Marc comes in to say what's with all the sad faces? Dani perks up and says it's all fine now that you are here.

Aug 23 2002 00:51, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 58910    Link
Roddy and Lisa in the HRD
R: Unbelievable. I warned Chiara about it. I know it wasn't you.

L: you don't know the whole story.

R: Perhaps we should share stories and see what happens. What do you know happened.

L: I've had such a hard time this week, I haven't known how I wanted to play the game ...ummm...I don't know how to verbalize it...it was a hard choice for me this week. Do I stay true to someone who I want to be my friend in the outside world even thoguht they've done me wrong in the game or to someone who hasn't done anything to me in the game.

L saying she went back and forth and at the last second, as she sat in teh DR chair, she changed her mind. She's starting to cry, saying she's lost, confused, sick of letting what other people want "not control my thoughts, but help me figure it out." "I'm just sick of it."

L: You knwo this place is a game and I'm learning the hard way that there are a lot of snakes in this place who, you know, make you...suggest you do their dirty work. I can feel myself building walls.

L saying she's trying to keep focus on herself, if she loses it on the game, that's fine.

R: I think the best way to pay the game is to play as little as possible.

L saying again that she regrets not giving Kiki her vote, that getting 2 votes was important to Kiki. She doesn't knwo whay she did it. "I can't play this game with such a guilty conscious. I don't understand myself right now. I feel like I hurt her so much."

Aug 23 2002 01:04, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 58931    Link
Roddy and Lisa alone in the HRD.
Roddy seems to want to pump Lisa for information, particularly about the votes. She said that he might not know everything, and he wants her to tell him what she knows so that they can compare notes. But she tells first. Instead, Lisa tells a story about how hard the decision was for her this week and that she changed her vote at the last minute when she was in the DR chair. Now she is talking about all the snakes in the house that can manipulate you into doing their dirty work for them and making it seem like your idea (I wonder who she means). She speaks of Dani being upset about the game, while Lisa is worried about losing herself. Hmmmm. Roddy is supportive and consoling and forgiving. Lisa moans over not having given Chi the second vote. Again, Roddy is very supportive. Lisa has been hearing stories that Chi thought that she was out to get her, and that she thinks Lisa is not a friend. She says that she is happy that Chi can now see the tapes and know what she really feels. Lisa asks what is going on in Roddy's head. Roddy wants to go to the beach after the show and have a beer (Lisa asks, Guinness?) and talk about the things that happened. Roddy says that Chi was not happy there and that she asked others to vote her out. She will understand. "I don't think that Chi would be bothered about you helping me or me helping you now" (good subliminal there)

Lisa offers to share information. Roddy says he doesn't know very much, but that she is tired of it all and it can wait for another time (another smooth move - don't look too eager). Roddy brings up the leaving of the Woobie and how much it affected him and how much it means about how she felt about the experience. Dani returns from the DR looking upset and suspicious at finding them alone (I could be reading too much into her expression). Roddy observes that someone else is ahead of Lisa in line for the DR and speaks to BB to ask that Lisa be called next so that she can get it over and get to the HT. (Sweet) Some more chit chat, and BB calls Lisa to the DR. (Way to go Roddy. He gets credit even if it wasn't his influence)

Aug 23 2002 01:15, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 58962    Link
Marc. and Amy in the hammock discussing if they are put up then the other....
one that is left better get revenge. Amy says that she is scared of Dani and doesn't trust her. Amy says she can now see Chi's point that if Gerry had been put up no one would be sad.
Marc. now that they got what they want (CHi out) they want to turn around and throw stones.

Aug 23 2002 01:16, Fri RMUForum: 082302 Post: 58968    Link
D, R & L in the HRD (long)
D alone in the HRD - just finished a crying jag and is now starting into space... R apologizes for interrupting, asks D what she's thinking?

D: I hate this game

R placates D with if the shoe was on the other foot.. it's ok to be sad... then lightens the mood by putting it in perspective "My friend got booted off television."

D jokes to herself "why you crying, you've only know her for 2 weeks! You're playing a game for money!" Both laugh quietly... a bonding moment.

L comes in - start to back out but R invites her to stay.

R begins to speak and we get FOTH for a moment.

Now back, L discussing who's going to sleep where... R says he'll sleep where J was, L says this is your room...R says he'll camp out here (missed some) conversation falters...silence

L: It's amazing what a roller coster game this is"

Both D & R agree

R: Let's just play a game of musical chairs and get this over in 15 min.

L: I just can't wait until the game is over, then we can look back and remember the good times, not that we were crying now...

D says something that I missed.... now silence.... can hear G's voice from the other room....

D: If they play a movie would be perfect to help me forget about it

R: Tonight would be perfect for a couple of beers - should we go ask for it? Brief discussion and then silence...

L starts pulling her stuff out from underneath the bed - making room for M to come back into the room.

R asks D if she wants to sleep in the double bed - she says no cause it's the cursed bed (whoever sleeps there seems to get nominated or evicted).

R says I slept there and offers himself up as an example that the bed is not cursed. R says they might cause an international incident if D were to join him and sleep in the double bed. Another brief conversation then long silence....

R: Wow, we've just spent 6 weeks here...

R: I think the doldrums are over - they've established our personalities and know who we are ... thinks that time remaining will get better and he and D speculate how long the last 2 players are in the house.

BB: Danielle, please go to the Diary Room...

R jumps up and says he'll go ask Rich (in the DR about the beer I believe) and leaves...

D looks at L and wants to know what she's thinking.

L: It's hard - I've made 2 huge moves (in pursuit of the game - not voting for E to come back and now voting out C)... I hope I don't lose myself.

D tells L she is a good person despite how she voted, etc. Brief discussion that J has already decided who he's going to nominate. D says she's not going to try and pursuade him- she's tired of it all.

M comes in and sees the long faces ... says he liked C too (does a dance or something - hard to see as my feeds are blurry) but she did him, L and D wrong in turn.. (missed some here but it was brief). All 3 then head out into the hallway.

R comes out of the DR and D goes in... now all the feeds on L and R who return to the HRD...

R expresses that he's surprised L didn't vote for C... L says he doesn't know the whole story - R wants L to explain...

L gives a stilted explanation about staying true to the game or staying true to someone who's done her wrong... basically she had her mind made up... at the last second possible she changed her mind... now she feels sick about it (starts to cry) she's sick about the whole thing... this place is a game, and she's learning the hard way but there's a lot of snakes in the game

(feeds recycle)

L continues she doesn't like having others influence her (missed some).

L tells R that D brought her in here and said stay focussed on the game...

R says if you're just yourself and don't focus on the game, you'll be here longer... cites how Josh played 24/7 and A is a bit like that.. now brings up Jason "betraying" him again...

L says obviously you know how I voted, but Kiki is someone who I would love to have in my life outside... explains that after she voted (to evict C) she felt sick... doesn't like playing the game with a guilty conscience and doesn't understand herself... apologizes to C...

R voting for someone doesn't mean you like someone better - it's a game... again says he cares about J, he's a great kid, etc...

L: This is not from C, but from third parties. Is glad that C can now see the tapes and find out the L was never after her... Says she's not like that in the game and is not that way in real life.... silence.... I really hate Josh right now.... silence...

L: What's going on in your head

R: That one day, after this is done, going down to the beach, having a beer, watching the water come in and thinking about this place... cause when you're here, it's difficult... discusses how upset feelings perpetuate upset feelings in the house...

R says it doesn't make a difference (L says it does to C) R continues that if you could go back in time... cites how C asked J and G to vote to keep R... says he doesn't think C would give L a hard time... "We're running out of-" before R can say time L jumps in and says "Friends". R speculates that J might have changed his mind, but didn't....

L asks R if he needs help figuring out the missing pieces, cause she has them. R says he doesn't think he knows much, but says L must be tired tonight...

R continues and asks L if when Eric left wasn't part of her ready to acknowledge that she was ready for one of them go? R says hel'll miss C, especially later tonight -

My feeds freeze!! Trying to recycle... posting (delayed as my server was down for a bit)

Aug 23 2002 01:21, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 58982    Link
Marc and Amy are in the hammock, and they are clearly against Dani,
but that doesn't stop them from finding some time to trash Gerry. Marc is looking foreword to frolicking with Jason tomorrow (just for something to do). He will use the opportunity to "put the smack-down on that b***h" (I may have gotten Gerry is called to the DR and Marc launches into a steady stream of funny but vile insults at Gerry. The more Amy laughs, the longer he goes on. Amy would love to hear him use that as a nomination speech.

Aug 23 2002 01:23, Fri saboForum: 082302 Post: 58989    Link
marc and amy in hammoc....VERY INTRESTING....
marc and amy bitching about danielle.....
calling her bitch this and bitch that...
making amazing points...
ex.-how dani s crying in room like a ho,and she s the one who cast the stone....and now is pretending in there crying,and saying she hates the game,but she loves the game,she s a devil.....(he s making some very good points,i agree with marc 10000%)
marc calling her a "fat ass troll",LOL........
both saying she has to go.....
and how she s doing dirty work left and right and he cant stand it...and how she has to go cause she d do anythig to get that money,he sees greed in her eyes......

now after a long bitching about deni he turns on gerry....
calling him again "prison bitch".....
amy laughing.....

feed switch
post....

Aug 23 2002 01:23, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 58991    Link
Lisa and Dani discuss the vote..
Lisa says that when Dani showed her the queen card she thought that was the way she was supposed to vote. Lisa says she isn't upset that she is gone, just that she didn't vote for her.

Aug 23 2002 01:25, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 59000    Link
Dani is talking to Lisa again.
She had been using cards to send messages to Lisa about votes. Dani is whispering, but not in her bad whisper. (The feed didn't switch her in time to get any good stuff) BB tells her to put on her microphone. The confab breaks up. Lisa goes to the Bath, Dani goes into the house and out into the yard to pick up laundry. She visits with Marc and Amy on the hammock. Marc starts trashing Gerry again. (I've had enough of this. I'm going to go read a book for a while)

Aug 23 2002 01:37, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 59035    Link
Dani visits Jason in the HOH...
Goes to get her microphone, Jason discussing the hand he dealt himself in cards. Dani comes back in, Jason asks her if she was the one who voted to keep Chi. Says she did it because she knew that it wouldn't matter.

Dani explains that the reason she changed her mind on the vote because Amy came and talked to her. Asks Ja if he knows what is he going to do. He says "no"
Dani tells Ja that Chi told them before she left not to trust Ja. Dani explains that if she is thinking that then he (roddy) may be thinking that.

Aug 23 2002 01:50, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 59064    Link
Everyone gathered in and around the hottub, toasting chi and themselves. NT

Aug 23 2002 01:57, Fri RichTheSnitchForum: 082302 Post: 59084    Link
Kiki's last words to Dani and Lisa: Don't trust Jason or Gerry.

Jason and Dani were alone in the HoH. Jason didn't know who to nominate. Dani was going to the hot tub. Dani said Chiara's last words when all three of the girls were alone 'Don't trust Jason or Gerry.'

Dani said 'if she is thinking that, maybe that is what he(Roddy) is thinking. If that makes you feel better'.

Jason says that they are both guaranteed to be here until September 5th. And if he goes by that time. At least one of them will be in the final five. Dani holds two fingers. She says they'll make it to the final two.

All the housemates are in the hottub. They are drinking beer, except for Jason drinking diet coke. THey toast being the final seven and also toast Chiara.

Now they are telling stories about their families.



Aug 23 2002 01:58, Fri RMUForum: 082302 Post: 59092    Link
M unpacking in the HRD-pulling out photos of his friends yelling "IT'S LORRAINE!!" "Ladies & Gentlemen - Nakiba." etc. NT

Aug 23 2002 01:59, Fri PolarBearForum: 082302 Post: 59097    Link
Marc in HRD
Marc is looking at pictures alone. I think they are of his friends. He keeps inserting the website he did earlier www.arlenewilson.com while he says his friends names over and over again, introducing them like they're in a pageant.

Aug 23 2002 02:02, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 59100    Link
Marc. in the HRD looking at his pictures alone and in an announcer voice saying...
Ladies and gentlemen it's Lorraine, etc. Does this for awhile then goes through his things. Talks to the camera as it follows him, states I don't think the American wants to see...Marc. acting crazy. Tells them to go out to the pool and look at the "freaks" out there.

Aug 23 2002 02:08, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 59108    Link
Everyone in the hottub discussing how entertaining Marc. is to America. NT

Aug 23 2002 02:09, Fri RMUForum: 082302 Post: 59109    Link
Everyone except M in the hot tub, drinking beer and wine...
D talking about what her children looked like when born (full head of hair)

The HGs now discuss what they looked like as kids... L was born with black hair, but it fell out and she had blonde hair & blue eyes, but by the time she was 1 it was black again... R was very blond as a child...

R says he's kind of sad so he's planning to drink alot. Good natured bantering about drinking - A says she doesn't barter for alcohol - what do they think of her? (Missed some here). A says J is trying to get her drunk - J saying he's going to imitate A, says "Don't flatter yourself".

R interrupts and tells A she must know some very good looking men if she's so-so on J - they discuss how handsome J is. D asks him if he gets alot of attention because of his looks, J says no - at least, not until he got into the house...

Aug 23 2002 02:11, Fri Realityis4TVForum: 082302 Post: 59116    Link
F2 Mar losing his mind
No one is in there Yet M stil ltalks. Talking about his fav cartoon and certain episodes. this all happening after he contrinued to talk about G calling him a fat tic to his picture. then M picked up his own pic and kissed it.
Now he is playing cards ALONE and talking to...YUP HIMSELF

Aug 23 2002 02:35, Fri WebuForum: 082302 Post: 59158    Link
Marc. states (to himself) that if his ex-boyfriend came and got him right now he would
walk right out and be happy. Amy comes in and speaks with him. Says all they want to get Roddy drunk, but she doesn't go. Says she is going to the DR. Marc. offers to do a double DR with her.

Aug 23 2002 02:41, Fri RichTheSnitchForum: 082302 Post: 59168    Link
Marcellas has been talking to himself for about a half hour.
He was talking about Starsky and Hutch, Charles Angles, Police Woman. The actors on the show. Catch phrases like 'You're under arrest Sucka'.

He goes on and on about his ex-boyfriend. Saying he wants he back ten times. Mumbling about times that he would get the biggest slice of cake at the bakery they visited.

He says if he had a child he would name him 'Huck'

While he is alone talking to the camera he is throwing in attacks on Gerry. Saying shut your mouth Gerry. I can hear you from here.

Now Amy joins him. She says that Chiara is working on the Sunset Strip tonight.

Marcellas goes to the hot tub.

AMy is trying to change in the Tiki room. But the camera's keep following her. She goes to the 4077th. She goes to the HoH, but the camera still follows her. She finally goes to change in the bathroom.

Aug 23 2002 03:27, Fri Realityis4TVForum: 082302 Post: 59205    Link
QUAD FEED UPDATE 12:30 AM
A in kitchen making chicken
M and L in there too
R in shower
D in HRD changing J doing something in the hall (packing clothes to move to HOH room???))))

All HG just got out of HT..Not sure where G went....probly to change

Aug 23 2002 03:45, Fri RichTheSnitchForum: 082302 Post: 59220    Link
Lisa and Dani in HRD
They are trying to change clothes but the camera is following Lisa.

Dani is talking about Roddy in the hot tub. Saying he is so charismatic. . Dani says Marcellas told her that the reason Roddy is dangerous is that people are mesmerized by his charisma. He is the devil. Lisa agrees. Lisa says it will be hard to get him out. She doubts Jason can nominate him. That he is going to take the easy way out this week.(Gerry) Dani says he shouldn't have been in this house, he has to play the game. If Roddy stays they might as well right that 500K to him 'Richard Mancuso'. If Jason nominates Roddy they can easily evict Roddy with their two votes and Jason as the tiebreaker.

Lisa and Dani say they will won't be to sad when Gerry leaves out of the people who are left in the house.

Big Brother calls Lisa to the diary room.

Aug 23 2002 04:53, Fri angelForum: 082302 Post: 59286    Link
All hg is living room talking...friendly conversation...laughing. No one wants to go to bed.
Amy tells how she came on the show to get a date for the fair. Amy teasing the men that everyone one of them cried like girls on the show. Friendly bantering.

Aug 23 2002 05:13, Fri angelForum: 082302 Post: 59303    Link
hg speculating on what's coming up in the house
J - thinks BB will have alot of fun things to keep them entertained or it will be very boring for the show.
Talking about up coming food competition - talking about PB&J and the possibility to eating that for a week. Talking about sellouts for PB&J last year where Bunky took money for 5 days PB&J. HG making a deal that if it's offered to them they will decline.

Aug 23 2002 06:59, Fri thats_the_ol_jayForum: 082302 Post: 59310    Link
Roddy and Marc late night convo about porn (hilarious stuff!) NT

Aug 23 2002 07:20, Fri WarEmblemForum: 082302 Post: 59315    Link
Roddy and Marcellas talking their love of porn movies in the HRD
Roddy and Marcellas both miss porn. Roddy says he rents these special 12 porn movies for 6.99 at his local video store.
Marcellas loves gay porn from Falcon International. They are quality.

Roddy can't get enough of porn star 'Kobi Tai'(sp?).

Roddy hates going out of the back room with his porn movies. This one guy tried to talk with him and he was in the straight section. Roddy says that is a no no. There are no chit chat when in the porn section of your local video store. Roddy's favorite video store has a huge porn section.

Roddy likes video store porn. He doesn't like Internet porn as much. Nice selection. Marcellas likes porn on the video. He needs a fast forward button. He doesn't even like DVD. Roddy says he doesn't need a director's cut of porn.

Marcellas says his favorite gay porn is 'Caesar's Hard hat gang bang'. Roddy mentions porn star Houston gang bang 'Houston 500'. Roddy is talking about the 'fluffer girls' in that gang bang.

Marcellas makes a joke about Tonya and that she is going to go for the world's record. Roddy and Marcellas crack up.

Roddy talking about two gang bang girls disputing the world record on the Howard Stern show.

Roddy goes on to say that a lot of these people in the gang bang would wear a mask like Batman so they wouldn't be recognized. Roddy talking about people in 'The Green Hornet' masks were banging porn star Houston and she was being bossy.
Roddy says how can she think she has dignity when 'Aquaman' is banging her from behind and 'Thor' is waiting next in line.

Roddy goes to the bathroom.

Danielle was also in the room but she was asleep.

Aug 23 2002 10:03, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59422    Link
G is up and brushing his teeth NT

Aug 23 2002 11:43, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 59609    Link
Jason gets up and uses the bathroom only to go back to HOH room. He complains he's frozen. Talks to himself about Crow CD.NT

Aug 23 2002 11:45, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59614    Link
BBf tells them to get up and get ready for the food competition NT

Aug 23 2002 11:46, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59616    Link
Everyone either sits up, rolls over but no one is actually getting up NT

Aug 23 2002 11:47, Fri MeeshellForum: 082302 Post: 59619    Link
Jason is in the HOH room and appears to be waking up
Jason is talking to himself in the hoh room saying , "it is cold!". I just logged in to the cams at 8:47 after having watched since 8:00 am. The other houseguests were sleeping and snoring.

Aug 23 2002 11:50, Fri JulieHForum: 082302 Post: 59626    Link
Dani is chewing those rocks again (grinding her teeth) NT

Aug 23 2002 11:59, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59653    Link
BB in soothing wake up voice
HG the fog is lifting and in an hour it'll sunny. You'll have a nice food competition.... M brakes in and says "ARE YOU GONNA PUT US IN A SWIMSUIT AGAIN!"
In very soothing voice BB announcer says "Only You Marcellas"

Aug 23 2002 12:02, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 59661  ParentRootLink
BB said food comp will happen in an hour. NT

Aug 23 2002 12:00, Fri QuenchForum: 082302 Post: 59654    Link
BB talking to HGs telling them its a beautiful day the HGs wake up and
Marc asks are you going to make us wear swimsuits again. They are now slowly climbing out of the beds

Aug 23 2002 12:00, Fri MeeshellForum: 082302 Post: 59657    Link
Danielle is up at 9:012 am pst NT

Aug 23 2002 12:12, Fri harry5263Forum: 082302 Post: 59696    Link
gerry is cleaning the frig (boy it holds alot of stuff) NT

Aug 23 2002 12:12, Fri MeeshellForum: 082302 Post: 59697    Link
Wake up houseguests!
Danielle and Gerry are up and at 'em walking about the kitchen. There s no conversation going on at this time of the morning. Gerry appears to be making breakfast. He has all sorts of food on the counter.

Aug 23 2002 12:20, Fri MeeshellForum: 082302 Post: 59732  ParentRootLink
My mistake, Gerry was cleaning out the fridge, not making breakfast NT

Aug 23 2002 12:22, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59742    Link
BB "30 min till food comp" NT

Aug 23 2002 12:22, Fri MeeshellForum: 082302 Post: 59743    Link
BB says "good morning houseguests, you have 30 minutes until the food competion". NT

Aug 23 2002 12:24, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59748    Link
Ja comes into dining room, G says "Good morning, fearless leader"
Except some of us will probably have to go on PB&J. A fate no one should have to experience

Aug 23 2002 12:24, Fri JazmineForum: 082302 Post: 59749    Link
F:3...G playing cards at the kitchen table. NT

Aug 23 2002 12:25, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 59753    Link
A silent exchange between Dani and Jason in the bathroom....
Jason mouths something to Dani.

Nodding from Dani, Jason gives a thumbs up, Dani says okay and laughs.

Aug 23 2002 12:37, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59784    Link
G says "ok D what's it worth to you for me to take a dive....
She says "Aw no". They laugh he says "you know I just had to say that".

Aug 23 2002 12:37, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 59787    Link
Quad feed update
All four feeds showing Dani in the kitchen and Gerry at the table playing cards. Small talk, talk about the food comp. Dani preparing to eat peanut butter again.

Aug 23 2002 12:42, Fri chipsForum: 082302 Post: 59798    Link
Line at the WC
M has been in there for some time, Lisa sits on the chair and rocks back and forth.

Aug 23 2002 12:42, Fri KimMForum: 082302 Post: 59799    Link
Hgs getting ready
Jason finishes his shower. Marcellas in the wc having his "morning constitutional." Lisa sits in the green chair waiting fot ther wc. Amy brushes her teeth adn also waits for the wc. Amy complains to Marc that he could have waited until the girls peed.


Aug 23 2002 12:50, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 59813    Link
Great! G just conjugated the verb "frolic" for us. NT

Aug 23 2002 12:53, Fri GermantownrunnerForum: 082302 Post: 59819    Link
OMG, Roddy and Marcellas (resume) Talk of `Gang Bang' Videos From Last Night! 12:57 p.m. EDT NT

Aug 23 2002 12:56, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 59828    Link
Dani is convincing J to nom Roddy. He was vascilating, so she "reminded" him that R is after J for his E vote. NT

Aug 23 2002 12:57, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 59830    Link
D: "It's time to pray, Jason" NT

Aug 23 2002 12:59, Fri GermantownrunnerForum: 082302 Post: 59834    Link
Danielle, Jason Whisper Strategy in HOH 1 p.m. EDT
Apparently, the Jason/Danielle alliance is in tact even after Danielle's treasonous vote against Roddy. They discuss putting up Gerry, possibly Marcellas. It's so obvious they absolutely continue to FEAR Roddy. Knock on the door. Oh, darn, it's Amy. They stop talking. Darn. Amy wants to borrow Jason's blanket... Jason says he can't trust Roddy who tells him (Jason) that he likes him and then goes behind his back and does a smear campaign.

Aug 23 2002 12:59, Fri TheJackylForum: 082302 Post: 59835    Link
A goes into HOH and D quickly puts on the headphones to pretend she's listening to J's music. NT

Aug 23 2002 13:01, Fri QuenchForum: 082302 Post: 59837    Link
Dani to Jason : "Just because you decided to make your own decisions" LOL who is she kidding NT

Aug 23 2002 13:01, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 59839    Link
Ja says "I just tell he caused me to nom him because
he put me in a corner, a place where I can't trust him"
D OK

Aug 23 2002 13:27, Fri JazmineForum: 082302 Post: 59900  ParentRootLink
Also, thought I heard J say that 'somebody has to do the dirty work'. NT

Aug 23 2002 14:53, Fri GeorgeinDallasForum: 082302 Post: 60110  ParentRootLink
Jason also said he would talk with R first then the rest of the house then they D&J mentioned agreed Gerry would be evicted next after Roddy (short)
Then Amy leaving D, Ja, M and Lisa as the final 4. Dani Said pray for HOH next week. She also mentioned getting Gerry's agreement not to Veto saying "Dont threaten him"

Aug 23 2002 13:06, Fri QuenchForum: 082302 Post: 59854    Link
Amy peeked outside and said to Roddy how is your putting ability The other HGs told her not to do peek. Her excuse was I wasn't here NT

Aug 23 2002 13:08, Fri GermantownrunnerForum: 082302 Post: 59860    Link
Jason, Gerry Reprimand Amy For "Peeking" Around the Drawn Window Blinds 1:10 p.m. EDT
Jason and Gerry tell Amy: "Hey, don't do that. You will get in trouble from BB." Amy peeked around the blinds looking out into the backyard (a no-no when the HGs are on lockdown) as the producers set up the Food Challenge outside. Apparently, she said, it will involve some type of putting exercise. <I caught a glimpse, myself, and it looked like some type of golfing, kiddie-pool game...>

Aug 23 2002 13:26, Fri harry5263Forum: 082302 Post: 59896    Link
Dan asked M and R what they were up talking about last night...
Rod said "scripture". Then they rehash there porno shopping rules.

Gerry is saying he is sorry to BB for walking in on one of the "handlers" in the Storage room, then FOTH

Aug 23 2002 13:27, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 59901    Link
Funny mishap
(sorry this ain't perfect as I was only listening wasn't set up for updating)

Jason goes into DR then BB comes on and says welcome, amy/gerry/roddy at kitchen table all say thank you. BB says soemthing else, they all say thank you again. BB then says welcome to your first competition as HOH and Amy finally tells him "BB, we are all listening in to your conversation"

Immediate FOTH (I found it quit funny)

Aug 23 2002 13:29, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 59905    Link
After FOTH, all feeds on lizard cam NT

Aug 23 2002 13:30, Fri harry5263Forum: 082302 Post: 59911    Link
Nice close up of the lizard, no sound NT

Aug 23 2002 13:40, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 59935    Link
BB says "Hey Jason, what time is it?" J:"It's time for the food competition!" FOTH NT

Aug 23 2002 13:45, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 59943    Link
Lizard cam returns and we finally go outside in time to see the start of the food comp. YAY! NT

Aug 23 2002 13:48, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 59948    Link
Food Competition Rules
J: We have 7 minutes to get these donuts in the holes if we get 0-5 we get ¼ our donuts, if we get 6-10 ½, 10-15 ¾, 16 are more we get it all. If one falls in the pool its out, and we only got 18 donuts so even 2 means we don't get it all

First person goes up ladder sends it down a slide, second person grabs it and puts it in catapult launching it into hottub, 3rd person puts it on skateboard and sends it down to ramp it must stay on and go over. 4th person puts it on conveyor belt powered by hand crank towardpull, person 5 has to catch it, place it on shark and push it to end of pool. 6 picks it up and puts it on this line and sends it across the line, from here they have to toss them into

Aug 23 2002 13:54, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 59963    Link
Rules Clarifications, and taking of stations
J:You will have 7 minutes to collect each donut and get it to the end, you may send as many donuts at once that will fit on a given station, I imagine you can hold on to it as long as possible on the skateboard then someone else would't;.

FOTH

J:You may keep or hold as many donuts that will fit in a station, any that falls in pool or does not fall then it must be taken back to start, so yes that means...

FOTH

16 donuts on this rack we will have all our food for the week, anything less than 16 and we don't get it all. Now here is the exciting part, there is one mystery donut, if we can succesffuly transport it then we will get a special treat for the whole house, that is the only donut that is not disqualified if it falls

I don't know if we should do it first, we should test a couple but we should do it early

BB: actually guys I want you to...

FOTH

J: ok take your stations and be ready for strange gyrations, take your positions,

A: I don't want this one but I think I have to,

J: you will push the shark amy

A: it looks heavy, can I try now

FOTH

Aug 23 2002 14:09, Fri DivaDawnForum: 082302 Post: 59993    Link
They keep having to do re-takes of the explaination of the food comp
Jason says "Ok... we'll act more excited about the mystery donut!"

Aug 23 2002 14:12, Fri DivaDawnForum: 082302 Post: 60001    Link
Stop the show... Amy broke the cable tie to her part of the comp... FOTH! NT

Aug 23 2002 14:14, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60006    Link
Practice Transcript, Competions Transcript up to Amy's Cable snapping
G: you know what, he needs more balance, oh that's working
D: we only got 7 minutes guys
A: yeah he turns around before he ever touches (shark don't go straight across pool, also I saw the first donut, the are oversized, maybe 1-1/2 foot across)

FOTH (long)

J: alriht guys if we get the mystery donut the entire house gets a special surprise, alright guys are you ready for some strange gyrations, lets wins some food for the house.

BB: hold on guys, I need you to say that last line again, so could you all go stand back where you are if you remember stand in the same order again.

J: alright blah blah, if we get the mystery donut then we will when a treat for the entire house, it is the only donust that can drop and not lose anything. Are you ready for some strange gyrations then take your stations and work hard so our diet has no holes (big arm motion) it
(They all cheer and start comp again)

BB: Hold on again guys

FOTH

G: so I can make a dive to here

R: yes

G: make a dive for paprika

R: see j when ever you push it swerves in middle you need friction on the outside

FOTH

R: nope

FOTH
'
J: recreatioin of lucy show

L: ready

J: 7 minutes

J: good job lisa

G: does she do it or me
G: there we go, me

J: grab that rather than let if fall off

L: can I

BB: you may get it lisa

R: good job gerry

(4 have gone down slide, 3 have catapulted)

(1 finished converyor and onto shark, amy is putting it across line)

J: oh we lost one

R: man down

J: that's ok, good job gerry

J: wait on here marcellas, guys we are doing a really good job

A: awww

J: hold on guys, amy had a apparatus break, a cable broek, everyone pause where you are, don't set donuts down, hold them, we need a cable tie.

J: Christ that little cable tie broke, we need a new one

FOTH

Aug 23 2002 14:16, Fri DivaDawnForum: 082302 Post: 60012  ParentRootLink
sorry but he actually said at the end ....
J: GUYS that little cable tie broke, we need a new one


Aug 23 2002 14:34, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60067  ParentRootLink
Incorrect correction, Jason said Chris (its the BB guys name, he has used it several times today) NT

Aug 23 2002 14:16, Fri QuenchForum: 082302 Post: 60011    Link
The String Broke repair job in progress FOTH NT

Aug 23 2002 14:20, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60027    Link
Competition Transcrip Continuted up to Technical Difficulty #2
(after long foth)

J: ok lets go again

J: good job good job

G: oh there went one

J: guys we can lose no more donuts, now

G: ok lets do it

R: good job good job

A: use the cow prodder

J: just calm down marcellas and grab the proder

G: lost one over here too

M: ok technical difficulty

J: take a deep breath guys and concentrate on this

G: lets concentrate on magic donut (

(mystery donut is on conveyor belt)

(ROddy is doing goo with coffee cup, they are almost up to half their food)

G: it don&#8217;t fire now&#8230;

J: Chris, we have a technicall&#8230;.

FOTH

Aug 23 2002 14:26, Fri TheJackylForum: 082302 Post: 60039    Link
HG's win half their food for the week.....plus the mystery donut. NT

Aug 23 2002 14:27, Fri DivaDawnForum: 082302 Post: 60044    Link
The mystery donut = Donuts and baked goods for the week!!! NT

Aug 23 2002 14:27, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60046    Link
Food Compeition Complete, and Mystery Donut revealed
G: how many have we lost, 5, you goin to tell us when we can start again

C: yes 3, 2,1

J: ok, thanks that was it, catapult keeps acting up

R: guys money donut is in

A: maybe we have pizza

R: can you tell us how much time we have

BB: you have a little over 2 min

R: lets hurry it, 2 at a time or 10 at a time

R: get it on fire

M: its good its good, come on guys

(amy sticking 2 on converyor at once

J: take your time on it, it's a little freaked out

J: good job, excellent

(Roddy added 2 more, they are up to 6 so have ½ of their food)

J: gerry when you are done help over there

J: alright danit you ready

D: she lost two more

J: its fine its fine
A: its not fine, I screwed up

L: I got that, you do that amy, I'll catch them if they fall

BB: one min

J: just do it we will catch it if they fall

J: thats perfect, thats perfect

D: chop chop

M: there we are, throw it back

A: go go go

(2 shy of ¾ food)

BB 20 seconds

D: 20,19,18,17,16,15

BB: 10

J: just roll it

R: very important its last one

(They got 1/2 their food, and they did get mystery food)

R: that last one was for ½

J: no we already got ½

BB: you do have ½ your food

FOTH

J: you guys ready to see.

Everyone: yeah

J: dunkin donuts

J: donuts and coffee (couldn'hear rest)

BB: read it one more time

(Clarification they won a week of baked goods and coffee from Dunkin donuts, including donuts, scondas (??)..several other items)

Aug 23 2002 14:29, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 60050    Link
Mystery donut reveal re-done, HGs have to re-enact the celebration. NT

Aug 23 2002 14:30, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60054    Link
Lisa: "I didn't know you had Dunkin Donuts here...on the... West... Coast..." NT

Aug 23 2002 14:30, Fri QuenchForum: 082302 Post: 60055    Link
BB lets them keep the Shark NT

Aug 23 2002 14:31, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60060  ParentRootLink
M: "I'm sleeping with the shark. I love a blow up doll!" NT

Aug 23 2002 14:32, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 60063    Link
HGs go back inside and find Dunkin' Donuts food, drinks, and mugs for them on the kitchen island. NT

Aug 23 2002 14:36, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60071    Link
Entire Food Competition Transcript, from Start to Finish (Very Long)
J: We have 7 minutes to get these donuts in the holes if we get 0-5 we get ¼ our donuts, if we get 6-10 ½, 10-15 ¾, 16 are more we get it all. If one falls in the pool its out, and we only got 18 donuts so even 2 means we don't get it all

First person goes up ladder sends it down a slide, second person grabs it and puts it in catapult launching it into hottub, 3rd person puts it on skateboard and sends it down to ramp it must stay on and go over. 4th person puts it on conveyor belt powered by hand crank towardpull, person 5 has to catch it, place it on shark and push it to end of pool. 6 picks it up and puts it on this line and sends it across the line, from here they have to toss them into

J:You will have 7 minutes to collect each donut and get it to the end, you may send as many donuts at once that will fit on a given station, I imagine you can hold on to it as long as possible on the skateboard then someone else would't;.

FOTH

J:You may keep or hold as many donuts that will fit in a station, any that falls in pool or does not fall then it must be taken back to start, so yes that means...

FOTH

16 donuts on this rack we will have all our food for the week, anything less than 16 and we don't get it all. Now here is the exciting part, there is one mystery donut, if we can succesffuly transport it then we will get a special treat for the whole house, that is the only donut that is not disqualified if it falls

I don't know if we should do it first, we should test a couple but we should do it early

BB: actually guys I want you to...

FOTH

J: ok take your stations and be ready for strange gyrations, take your positions,

A: I don't want this one but I think I have to,

J: you will push the shark amy

A: it looks heavy, can I try now

FOTH

G: you know what, he needs more balance, oh that's working
D: we only got 7 minutes guys
A: yeah he turns around before he ever touches (shark don't go straight across pool, also I saw the first donut, the are oversized, maybe 1-1/2 foot across)

FOTH (long)

J: alriht guys if we get the mystery donut the entire house gets a special surprise, alright guys are you ready for some strange gyrations, lets wins some food for the house.

BB: hold on guys, I need you to say that last line again, so could you all go stand back where you are if you remember stand in the same order again.

J: alright blah blah, if we get the mystery donut then we will when a treat for the entire house, it is the only donust that can drop and not lose anything. Are you ready for some strange gyrations then take your stations and work hard so our diet has no holes (big arm motion) it
(They all cheer and start comp again)

BB: Hold on again guys

FOTH

G: so I can make a dive to here

R: yes

G: make a dive for paprika

R: see j when ever you push it swerves in middle you need friction on the outside

FOTH

R: nope

FOTH
'
J: recreatioin of lucy show

L: ready

J: 7 minutes

J: good job lisa

G: does she do it or me
G: there we go, me

J: grab that rather than let if fall off

L: can I

BB: you may get it lisa

R: good job gerry

(4 have gone down slide, 3 have catapulted)

(1 finished converyor and onto shark, amy is putting it across line)

J: oh we lost one

R: man down

J: that's ok, good job gerry

J: wait on here marcellas, guys we are doing a really good job

A: awww

J: hold on guys, amy had a apparatus break, a cable broek, everyone pause where you are, don't set donuts down, hold them, we need a cable tie.

J: Chris that little cable tie broke, we need a new one

FOTH

(after long foth)

J: ok lets go again

J: good job good job

G: oh there went one

J: guys we can lose no more donuts, now

G: ok lets do it

R: good job good job

A: use the cow prodder

J: just calm down marcellas and grab the proder

G: lost one over here too

M: ok technical difficulty

J: take a deep breath guys and concentrate on this

G: lets concentrate on magic donut (

(mystery donut is on conveyor belt)

(ROddy is doing goo with coffee cup, they are almost up to half their food)

G: it don't fire now;

J: Chris, we have a technicall...;.

FOTH

G: how many have we lost, 5, you goin to tell us when we can start again

C: yes 3, 2,1

J: ok, thanks that was it, catapult keeps acting up

R: guys money donut is in

A: maybe we have pizza

R: can you tell us how much time we have

BB: you have a little over 2 min

R: lets hurry it, 2 at a time or 10 at a time

R: get it on fire

M: its good its good, come on guys

(amy sticking 2 on converyor at once

J: take your time on it, it's a little freaked out

J: good job, excellent

(Roddy added 2 more, they are up to 6 so have ½ of their food)

J: gerry when you are done help over there

J: alright danit you ready

D: she lost two more

J: its fine its fine
A: its not fine, I screwed up

L: I got that, you do that amy, I'll catch them if they fall

BB: one min

J: just do it we will catch it if they fall

J: thats perfect, thats perfect

D: chop chop

M: there we are, throw it back

A: go go go

(2 shy of ¾ food)

BB 20 seconds

D: 20,19,18,17,16,15

BB: 10

J: just roll it

R: very important its last one

(They got 1/2 their food, and they did get mystery food)

R: that last one was for ½

J: no we already got ½

BB: you do have ½ your food

FOTH

J: you guys ready to see.

Everyone: yeah

J: dunkin donuts

J: donuts and coffee (couldn'hear rest)

BB: read it one more time

(Clarification they won a week of baked goods and coffee from Dunkin donuts, including donuts, scondas (??)..several other items)



Aug 23 2002 14:36, Fri QuenchForum: 082302 Post: 60072    Link
HGs notices 8 cups and 8 chairs NT

Aug 23 2002 14:43, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60088  ParentRootLink
Speculating on a visitor for the 8th mug & chair, someone says "What if it's Will?" Amy" "Ooh, he won't git out alive!" (Laughter) NT

Aug 23 2002 14:40, Fri ktanForum: 082302 Post: 60084    Link
All HGs have a toast for the sponsor at dinner table NT

Aug 23 2002 14:46, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60094    Link
R warns about eating too many donuts. "Guys, we can't eat 16 donuts a day, we have to limit it to a dozen." Marcellus says >>>>
"I am in trouble. I am a donut, cake-eating f***ing FREAK!"

Aug 23 2002 14:48, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 60098    Link
Gerry asked "I wonder what "half" our food means"
Dani replied, "It means we get half our food, Gerry", very snarky and condescending. Gerry let it go and persisted with his point, which generated a good deal of discussion. Will it be food for 3 days, or half rations, or will some things be missing, . . .

Aug 23 2002 14:56, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60114    Link
BB just told them they are free to move about the house NT

Aug 23 2002 15:13, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60145    Link
HGs are starting to crash. M has a headache, R is out of energy, Amy is getting cranky. NT

Aug 23 2002 15:15, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60149    Link
Apropos of nothing, A, G & L still wearing their aprons from the food comp. NT

Aug 23 2002 15:19, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60155    Link
HG are playing cards speculating about 8th chair
Ja says last year they brought in the survivors but that there was 4 of them
He also said he thinks BB is doing things to boost ratings
A yells BB bring me a star!
Then someone start singing 'Bigbrother bring me a man...." FOH

Aug 23 2002 15:22, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60158    Link
All HGs playing cards - guessing they will get a visitor. Amy says "Just one hotty. Send Billy Zane, he's pretty". M says >>>
"Send a gay porn star!" and he names a half dozen gay porn stars. Amy started
singing "Dear Big Brother, Send me a man... Someone" and FOTH

Aug 23 2002 15:22, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60159    Link
M says he has the worst head ache, he looks bad too NT

Aug 23 2002 15:23, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 60160    Link
On return from FOTH, Ja is called to DR. D says "Alison said no more HGs would be returning, right?" They agree that was the message. NT

Aug 23 2002 15:24, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60161    Link
D says I have to take the biggest whewwhew, M says can I go before you NT

Aug 23 2002 15:27, Fri TheJackylForum: 082302 Post: 60164    Link
A licks cream cheese off a knife and then dips it back into the carton. <double dipper> NT

Aug 23 2002 15:28, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60165    Link
M & R in HRD
M lays down with bandana and ask them to wake him up for the fun later
M says he could lay execution style in the sun and tan
R says what do you care for. This time tomorrow it's going to be impossible for you to look good cause you're going to be soooo fat (he laughs)
M says really I already don't fit in my bikini

Aug 23 2002 15:36, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60173    Link
L & D in kitchen
they're wondering where everyone is (in bed, they guess)
D starts going through the house saying "Where's G, where's G)
D whispering again, water running at sink (da*n) I hope someone else got that
Missed some
L says comething about I'm going to be mad at them too
D this is a trip
(feed timed out)
L are you looking forward to a house guest
D as long as it's not someone coming back)
8 chairs, 8 cups they make it so obvious
D says I don't particularly like dougnuts but I eat a bagel and get on the exerciser



Aug 23 2002 15:38, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60176    Link
D & L are trashing about she doing something in the yare (A is the only other she) NT

Aug 23 2002 15:39, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 60177    Link
Lisa washing up and Dani helping - all feeds.
They don't seem to be talking about strategy or anything, but with the water running, it is hard to tell. They speculate about if there is to be a guest, and who it might be. Dani doesn't care much for that (but she might have been talking about the donuts). Lisa needs more dish soap, BB. Dani lists some other cleaning supplies they need. Everyone else seems to be napping. Gerry on a lounge in the yard (Dani searched him out - she needs to know where everyone is at all times) Roddy and Marc are in the HRD. Jason is presumably in the HoH. I don't know where Amy is.

Jason appears, and they congratulate him on the great job he did. Jason wants to talk to everyone, so he may have been in the DR. Dani called to the DR.

Aug 23 2002 15:52, Fri SharkyForum: 082302 Post: 60197    Link
Jas starts his plan . . . talking with all HG - Amy first.
A - you have to feel comfortable doing . . .
J - I don't feel comfortable nominating anyone
A - I don't know what I would do. One of them is Gerry and that's such an easy out and you'd have to nominate someone else. I would like to stay, but we all would
J - that's why I wanted to win hoh, to stay another week
A - anybody you nominate against him (G) would be safe
(She's not giving up another name but not really ripping G either)
lost audio so I'm posting

Aug 23 2002 16:00, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 60203    Link
Dani has gone to the DR and all feeds study Lisa washing dishes.
Now all feeds study Jason in the bath washing his hands. Is there a theme here? Jason returns to the kitchen and Lisa tells him that "Amy stole the CD player" Jason says he wants to talk to everybody today before "the thing". He says he doesn't know what to do and wants to get feedback. Lisa advised him that "you don't have to" about something to do with his confusion. Lisa says that she tried to talk to him last night, but missed him. Jason expresses mixed emotions about being HoH, but overall, he seems happy about it. They talk about his CD and what is on it. Jason calls to Amy. Jason lists some of the songs. Amy comes out and Ja repeats that he wants to talk to everyone.

They go into the HoH together and chit-chat for a while. Jason gets down to it. "What are your thoughts? I want to be your representative." He says he will announce the nominations and house nominations. Amy vacillates and says it should be his decision. Amy repeats that she doesn't know. Jason says he won't tell anyone, he just wants to collect information. She suggests Gerry as easy, but who would you put up with him. Amy lists Gerry's contributions to the house, so we would have to pick up that. They talk about decoys, and the trouble of who to pick at this point. "Who is not a good decoy." Amy says Dani would be bad, because everyone considers her a threat and she may go. Amy expected Roddy to go last week.. Jason jokes about Amy going up as part of the revolving door thing. Jason mentions putting a scratch on his key so he can see it in the box. FOTFH Back to speculation about others. Amy seems to discount Marc from nomination. FOTFH and sound cuts throughout. Lisa called to the DR. Amy says why she put up Chi and that everyone left are the people she likes. Major feed problems. Posting.

Aug 23 2002 16:01, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60204    Link
J & A in HOH long
Ja wants A opinion because he says when he noms someone he will say it's what the house wants
they beat around the bush for a while
A says she doesn't know but then says G would be an easy out
A says I want to stay, we all do
then they talk about all the perks of HOH
then they discuss how decoys don't always work
A says it worked for her even thought she was breaking down at the end
Ja says OK so thats one do you have a second
A no, your second person would probably have to be a decoy and someone you will be comfortable. Now you have to put up someone that everyone like but is not considered a threat
Ja says who
A says D (I think) cause she's the strongest
missed some
If you put me up and I'll go because thats a easy vote for everyone
Ja I'll be honest, I don't know if everyone is going to say A, revolving door
Ja says I'm not going to make a deal with you but I'll let you know what going on later
they talk about the obvious alliances, etc
A says you know I won't say M or M say put me
A says you know when you nom one will stay and they need to be big enough not to come back cause you put them up
A says Chi mocked her a lot and that's the way she grew up and now that she older if someone mocks me that who I don't want to be around. Also she spent the least time with me. she was the less of the evils. I felt bad last night
J I've got a lot of things tearing at me, part of me wants to do something easy and then part of me....
A says I know I did what 4 of 7 people wanted
Ja I want to talk to everyone
A says some where alright but some were really hard
ja tell me who
A D was really hard. She came at me like what do I have to change my mind
Others too even before I told them I'd already made up my mind
feed switched


Aug 23 2002 16:02, Fri SharkyForum: 082302 Post: 60207    Link
Amy saying Danielle was riding her pretty hard to do the Ch, R nomination last week
Jason not giving anything away and played it, with Amy, like he didn't know what was going on.

Aug 23 2002 16:03, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60210    Link
M & D in hammock
D is telling M what it's like about to be HOH (how would she know)
M says at least as HOH he did one thing in this house
D & M is sooo mad that A went and told R everything
M I can't open that door...if I open that door....
feed switched

Aug 23 2002 16:05, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60214    Link
Ja to A "So what do you want this next week..."
A I want it to be a happy house. The people that stay I want to be happy and no badgering like last week. You're lucky thay havent' done that ot you yet.
Ja I know, I've made myself unavailable to that. Like I stayed and played cards

Aug 23 2002 16:07, Fri sheridanForum: 082302 Post: 60217    Link
M and D in hammock Gerry bashing saying he has to go NT

Aug 23 2002 16:08, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60218    Link
M & D planning next HOH
they're talking how they got to get it next week so R don't get them
D I don't like those memory game, I like the tub like who can stay in. If they do that again I'll be pis*ing myself
M and shi*ing too if it'll gross someone out

Aug 23 2002 16:16, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 60225    Link
Back to Amy and Jason in HoH.
Amy is talking of all the pressure she got when she was HoH, even before she was out of the tub. I only heard her mention Marc by name as someone who pressured her.

Feeds switch to Marc and Dani on the hammock. They are talking about Josh and his going. Marc talks about his conflict with Amy over Josh. Dani talks about Amy going to Roddy with everything. Marc seems upset that she did, and is sort of apologizing for opening that door.

Back to the HoH. Jason asks Amy what she wants to see. Jason says he has made himself unavailable to pressure form people. This in response to more from Amy about pressure and plotting.

Back to the hammock. They agree that "he" has to go (Gerry I think, because it is Marc speaking) Dani says that if Roddy gets HoH, she will go (I.E., if they get Gerry and Roddy stays). Dani again says that she can outlast anyone in an endurance contest for HoH next week. She doesn't want any of that memory crap for HoH competition.

Back to the HoH (this is from the Quad feeds, so it is all or nothing here). Amy talking about liquor-booze. FOTFH Amy continues on her tack of nominating to make the house the most comfortable for those who remain. Amy talks of not knowing what happens to people when they leave. She wants to hear from Chi. No one had any ides what happened to Lori and her when they left. Amy says that if you do what the house wants, that doesn't necessarily do anything for you. Jason agrees, and they have some discussion about that. Jason says that he may put up Amy, but only because of the Revolving Door thing, but he doesn't think so. He won't guarantee it, but he thinks he wants her around for awhile. They agree it is a dirty game, but Amy says that Ja is playing it clean. Amy suggests that she played it as clean as possible and spoke openly to Roddy about her intentions.

Aug 23 2002 16:17, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60227    Link
A telling Ja he wants to be in the end with
people you want to be around, at least people you can be comfortable.
A talks about leaving and coming back. How when they all left before no one know that they were going into banishment
Small talk about school starting
A talks how if he does what the house wants it may not be the best for you
A says sometimes you eliminate a threat, she says R and Chi either one would probably put her up. Even if you do someones dirty work doesn't mean they won't put you up
Ja says I can't promise anything, but if I do pick you, it would be cause you did come back, but for me, I think it's in my best interest to have you in the house
A seems relieved she said she was afraid to say anything cause he would think shes just trying to save herself (she start giving him lots of compliments)
she tells what her week was like and how she thinks for a dirty game Ja is playing it as clean as someone can
Ja says he knows know what ever he does people still won't be happy
A sasy Yeah, that's exactly it
then they talk about how sad everyone is at eviction until food comes and they they all get happy but last night she still didn't feel happy when the food came

Aug 23 2002 16:18, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60228    Link
Ja goes into yard and tells G he wants to steal him later to talk NT

Aug 23 2002 16:37, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 60233    Link
Amy leaves the HoH and Jason thanks her. Jason wanders outside, says hi to Gerry (not that kind of Hi).
He invites Lisa to the HoH for her talk. "What are you thinking Lisa?" I won't tell you what Amy said (and implies he won't talk about what she says). Lisa opens with how hard it is for her and how much harder it must be for him. She mentions that she still doesn't know all of what happened when she and Eric were on the block. They talk of how crazy the house is and how they all have different perspectives. Lisa is asking, and Jason is volunteering, about what happened about him being pressured about the Eric/Lisa vote. He was approached by both Eric and Roddy and he didn't feel pressured, but he thinks they assumed he agreed to something. Later, he says, Chi came to him and said that Jason might be put up if she used veto. He says he doesn't remember if Chi was voting against Lisa at that time. Ja says he was confronted later and that he didn't think he had made any deal. Lisa wants to know if Eric participated in the pressuring. Jason sort of agrees that he did. Jason says that he still feels that he may have done the wrong thing and is looked down on because of it.

Lisa admits she voted against Chi and feels bad about it but had to go with the flow for fear of f**king up the plan. Ja says he made no deal with Chi to vote against her, but he did for other reasons. Lisa thinks she is in trouble with Roddy because of her vote (Damn feeds refreshing) Still no talk of what to do this week. Lisa thinks she may be playing the game all wrong. Ja says you are playing it very well, that's why I'm putting you up (clearly said as a joke). Lisa says she has only given her word twice, and has kept it both times - she doesn't make deals. She loves Roddy, but feels that he worked the conflict with Chi against her in the Eric/Lisa vote. She blames it all on Josh.

"I honestly wouldn't know who to put up if I were you." She says that Roddy and Chi still have bad feelings toward Ja about his Lisa vote and supposed betrayal. (Is she campaigning against Roddy, or just talking about the past?).

Aug 23 2002 16:43, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60241    Link
ja in HOH with L
waht are you thinking, what are you thinking
L Honestly I am so lost with this game, if I was you I would be losing my mind. Like what happen with R & Chi and she doesn't know everything but something hurt her feelings. For a while I couldn't even look at Chi, not that I hate her but that I was afraid I would cry
Ja well I glad you said, so tell me about that. The E thing got me in a lot of trouble cause I saved you
Chi I heard G and R came to you
Ja said E and R came up to me and E basicly said that if G uses POV that Ja goes up. Ja says I don't think I ever said anything but that they just considered it a done deal
missed some
Ja Chi came to me cause she had POV, and ask me how I'm voting. I don't know. chi said if I use POV they might put you on the block. At that time I'm not sure if I knew she was putting you, maybe I did
Ja says I don't think I gave them a final word, my vote is my vote
L was R pushing you towards voting for me
Ja yes, I think he was
then he talks more about how Chi came to him
Ja says his heart is broke cause he let his friends down and now he's the scum bag
G comes to the door and Ja says he'll talk to him in a sec
Ja says don't take this as anything cause this is just from my perspective
L tells how she feels about the vote for Chi and chi not getting her 2 votes she wanted
Ja remembers how A & M had a fight the night before. Chi ask me if I had a deal with A. I didn't make a deal with A but someone came to me for her. I honnored her because she was HOH and I hope it doesn't come and bite me in the but
L says no R knows you voted that way cause Chi ask you to
L says I'm the one in trouble. She tells how she was always in the room when everyone was discussing votes and they never ask her what she was doing, they just assumed
Ja ask L if she felt she had to honnor something I missed
L says she doesn't feel she's playing thin game well
Ja laughs and says I think you're playing it very well
L says how R tells everyone fi you don't put me up I won't put you up. How do you know how many times that has happened
L say if someone breaks their word to me then I don't think I have to honnor my word. It's all about love. If i think you liveme then I love you. I don't car about all this back stabbing. She said R told her to wait to see the tape and she said no that hurt my feeling
Ja says yeah cause you wouldn't have been gone
L blames it all on Jo, that he split the hous
L i don't know who I would put up if I was you. I know R & Chi love you but they have doubts. Chi mentions something to D yesterday that she can't trust you and R basicly said the same thing. She said R telling her that is talking to the wrong person cause it pis*es her off more at him.
Ja explains that he didn't think that he had been locked into that vote
Ja says R says I'm going to watch out for you, but there was no contract. I thought great I go play in the HT. There was nothing said what I had to do it was just 2 or 3 week thing. I've been scared of the couples things.
I feel that several times I have given him my word and honored it. I told him if there was only one vote to save him it would be mine.
small talk about how hard it is to play this game
Ja tell L I kinda know what you mean
D comes in and tell Ja she really wants to talk to him before he talks to anyone else
Ja you know what broke my heart. After Jo left when we came back and sat down, R said to ohter people that when they said 5-0 that R thought he was gone and taht he couldn't trust anyone. that hurt that he didn't say it to my face and he doesn't trust me

L says I cant tell you any two people


Aug 23 2002 16:47, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60248    Link
Ja in HOH with D
Ja is telling how hurt he is about R not trusting me
they talk about G maybe using POV
I think they're going to make a deal with G, not to use POV
Ja says if I put A up I can't tell her shes safe, but....
Ja says I think G might vote to evict R
missed some
ja I'm really worried about POV
D tells him to ask G
ja you need to win POV this week
D you do too
hard to hear whispering
Ja says he thinks he wants to keep G

Aug 23 2002 16:48, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60250    Link
Jason continues interviews with lisa then danielle, noms picture begins shaping up
(Paraphrasing as I set up for updating&#8230;)
Lisa is telling Jason that Roddy and Chiara had come to her and said that Jason was not to be trusted cuase he broke his word and voted out eric, and lisa says that makes her like him more since she stayed.

J: Roddy came to me at beginning and said that he would look after me and I was like ok, hey no contract in that for me I'll just stay here a while I thought, then he came after me

L: did he promised you a few weeks for eric

J: no this was early in game, he said he would look out for me and never said I had to do anything and at the end of 2 or 3 weeks nothing was said cause I was getting nervous, the couples were a small group and even if I was with them you all were a stronger group so at this point I was like roddy if I can't make a deal I can't make a deal. I feel like that on several occasions that I lived up to my word when I gave it to them, like when I said I would vote for kiki, and I did, I voted to save him, an additional week in the house. I don't know, theres a lot of things and I'm being completely honest with whats going on in my head, I want to do the easy thing like nominate gerry vs whoever maybe amy and have a good week but its hard

L: yeah when I was HOH it was hard, go easy or was I ready to play the game, its hard to be selfish as I told the DR it makes a guilty conscious

J: even though she said loved me but didn't trust me I wish it was flipflopped now

D: hey

J: come in

D: I need to talk to you before you talk to someone else

J: come on in we are about done, do you feel ok lisa

L: yeah I just can't pick two people

D: yeah, its hard

J: yeah I know

L: there comes a time to be selfish like me voting against chiara

J: you know what broke my heart was when I went with roddy, but when it all came down and josh left and I said this in DR but I don't know if they show it but when he said he wondered if it was 6-0 against him that he must not trust anyone and that hurt me that he didn't even trust me

L: no I think that has to do with the game, I think it would be different outside the house

D: its business

J: oh yeah

D: and you can use that line, its business

(Lisa leaves0

D: I still have it in my mind that marcellas has something with roddy

D: ask him about gerry that's how you can know&#8230;

J (whispering hard to hear) I'll bring him in here and I'll tell him&#8230;&#8230;hes trying to bring down&#8230;.you know&#8230;..

J: come in

L: do you want me to finish up your clothes

D: I'll be out in 30 seconds

L: ok

J: (whispering, can't hear)

(hard to hear but what I make out is he might do Gerry vs roddy if gerry will agree not to use power of veto on roddy so they can get roddy. Jason says he needs to know where lisa votes is, so that he can be tiebreaker and that gives him more options of who can put if he controls 2 votes. )

J: Theres 4 voters and I have to have 2, if he stays in house I'm&#8230;.you know&#8230;its scandalous but I have to do it, heres the deal, if roddy did get saved I would be in so much trouble. Gerry is only one that might use it or maybe M

D: he won't use it

J: if he hits me with the conversatoint to look out for him I'll say that other HGs have told me about the no longer trusting me&#8230;

D: ok

(they both leave)

Aug 23 2002 16:48, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60252    Link
Ja invites G into HOH but then feeds switch to yard (darn) NT

Aug 23 2002 16:50, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 60254    Link
Lisa and Jason in the HoH, continued
More talk of the past and Jason's fear of the couples. He feels that he has made up for the Eric/Lisa mistake since then, with several promisees that he kept, but he is still unsure of himself. He really wants to put up Gerry against maybe Amy because it is the easiest thing to do. Jason and Lisa agree that they wish the last vote was reversed. Dani interrupts and says she needs to talk to him before he talks to someone else. Jason says fine. He is obviously in a private meeting, but she stays and participates. Jason says that he sort of has an idea of what Lisa wants, and it is OK. Lisa leaves, and Dani stays.

Dani says that she believes Marc has a deal with Roddy and he will be able to tell by how much Marc will push for Gerry to go. They whisper some about that, and how Ja thinks Marc has worked to reduce his credibility in the house. Sounds like it is to be Roddy to go, but there is discussion about who to put up with him. Dani is concerned about Gerry using the veto and Ja should get an agreement with him. May put up Amy but tell her that she is the decoy and is not going. Ja is worried about the veto because if Roddy gets saved, Ja is in a lot of trouble. Doesn't want to nominate Gerry. He wants to keep him with him. They leave the HoH and Jason invites (Roddy, I think) for his turn in the barrel. Unfortunately, all feeds switch to the yard where Dani is washing and Lisa is on the hammock.

Aug 23 2002 16:51, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60258    Link
G is in yard, he must not have stayed in HOH long or maybe he didn't go in yet? NT

Aug 23 2002 16:59, Fri MirageForum: 082302 Post: 60268    Link
D to L-why would M want G out, when G has his back? They wonder what kind of deal M has w/ R. NT

Aug 23 2002 17:05, Fri PhantomForum: 082302 Post: 60277    Link
Gerry and Marc are in the yard with Dani and Lisa. I don't know where Amy is.
Jason and Roddy are presumably closeted in the HoH without us. Not much talk in the yard. Lisa finally speaks to ask Dani if she is doing intimate items. No, they are over there. Lisa goes to help with the wash. Wash talk, then Dani brings up how important POV is this week. No comment. Dani is scared of Gerry. She would put him up against Roddy. Then he can't use the POV, because he would. Lisa is concerned that this HoH will be hard on Jason. Dani thinks it is the perfect time. (I see Marc in the HoH with Ja, but I will stay here in case they say something.)

Dani repeats that Marc's opposition to Gerry is proof that he is in Roddy's pocket. Lisa is afraid of being put up. Lisa says that after Marc and Amy, they (Lisa and Dani) are the next couple. Lisa is disappointed with Marc. What could Roddy have offered that would make him change so drastically. Dani says she hasn't been wrong yet in this game. Some chat about Eric that is covered by water sounds. Talk of Chi and she had no chance, and if she was so tight with Roddy, why did he get out of the tub. Because he knew that they weren't coming after him. Talk of being excited by a new guest, and Lisa hopes he is cute, but feels a little guilty about that and not knowing about what Eric is doing to settle up his old relationship. More of the same, until the feeds all switch to the HoH

Aug 23 2002 17:11, Fri MirageForum: 082302 Post: 60288    Link
M tells J in HoH that the only one he wouldn't vote to evict is D.
He says this in response to J's question. He prefaces the answer by saying that J is out of the running this week, so he couldn't include him. (Hmmm, is he just saying this knowing it will get back to D?)

M reminds him that J should know that M or D would never put J up. He may have, also, mentioned A, but I am not sure.

They continue to discuss what happens when it is down to 3 HG.

Aug 23 2002 17:12, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60291    Link
Ja & M
M I've been told every single day I'm just here cause of him
Ja that's the only person in the house that I have issues with
G comes in to get cards
M says I love my A but you and I has a conversation the other night about A...
Ja I told her that her name came up but it would be a nice one cause it's hard for everyone to let her go to the end of the game, she had a 2 week vacation and then back
M well the thing about G is that he is a deal cutter I don't want to see his face after this place
about R is that D is scared of him. I'm not scared of him. We never cought him in a lie, we haven't seen him throw rocks but people have thrown rocks in his favor
they start talking about Nikis and Jim Jones
M so that's it I totally it. I did buy into the couples thing
Ja what do you mean
M cause the 2 vote or the 3 votes thing cause we'd benn picked off
ja that why I went the E thing
M when chi came to me and ask if you hand shook hands wiht E
ja I know I heard all kinds of things. If you hear a conversation they think you're part of it
they laugh about how that happens
like when chi came to me, and then the momment with R, let me know how chi was
M when R had me in the room he said ja lied to me
ja I can't believe he talked to everyone in the house. tells of conversations where they assumed they had his vote cause he was in the room. Then later I found out Chi was going to vote to evict L. later I ask her why she had to vote L. later I talked to R and explained that I had to decide my best interest because of the couples. I didn't nominate E
M I don't trust him as far as I can throw him
Ja we talked and i explained my position. there was times I gave my word, like i gave kiki and it was a solomn word and I kept it. other times I don't think I gave my word
Trying to figure out if g/R deal
Ja I don't want you to fell cornered
they talk more about the past and Chi
Ja I curious is there anyone in this house that you feel you could not vote to evict
M no
they agree that now it's like I got your back but now it's time not to be ambiguous. You not up so that out, but the only other person is D taht I'm not voting against. Now when it gets down to the final three, how does that work is it a competiton on whos out
Ja no it's down to the final 3 the one who wins picks who stays with them
ja says when it gets to the end he thinks they can ALL compete
ja explains that A knows she might go up because it's not fair to everyone but it not neccsessarily that she will be the one to go
they talk about strong arming
M the one thing i didn't do

Aug 23 2002 17:28, Fri curiosityForum: 082302 Post: 60324    Link
J&D decide who will be nominated (didn't see this posted earlier)
During Dani's brief visit to the HOH, she and J confirmed Roddy & Amy will be nominated. J said it will happen this way if he can secure D & L's votes to evict Roddy. D told J not to worry about L, she'd take care of making sure L voted R out. That way, J said, in case of a tie, he can evict Roddy and base it on R smearing him to everyone else re: his trustworthiness.

Aug 23 2002 17:32, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60333  ParentRootLink
This post is incorrect...(more inside)
As I posted in my update of that conversation, they both agreed they needed to know where Marcellas stands... And they said based off what he said it woudl probably be Gerry vs. Roddy or marcellas vs roddy. They then siad gerry would need to agree not to use veto or the other if marcellas let on that he had a deal with roddy (and he did). They said if neither of them happened then they would do Amy vs. Roddy

Aug 23 2002 17:36, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60341  ParentRootLink
In order to avoid wrong impression, Jason did make that prediction (R v. A) to Gerry, was that what you meant? NT

Aug 24 2002 10:34, Sat curiosityForum: 082302 Post: 62065  ParentRootLink
What I meant was what I posted which was verbatim what they said BUT no worries - that will be my 1st/last post Stark NT

Aug 23 2002 17:37, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60343    Link
Ja & G in HOH
they start joking like it's a parent teacher conference
Ja I've tried to talk to everyone and she how they feel it ought to go, I'll be gone next week
G Well that's your delima, at least you have a easy out. It just you have to figure out who to put with. M could be one, this time it would be different because now he's a player but then he would be against A again but then he wouldn't have to vote A. I'll also say what D says "Follow your hear"
I don't want you to put me up but no hard feelings
They both laught and say not this week. Then for a laugh you could put R up again cause it make great television they laugh
then G gets serious I love the girl to death but it's just not fair blah blah
Ja says It's a game and go with your heart but it's a family now and you have to kick someone out that you really love
Ja this is something more scary but its the putting up 3 people. I'm not strong arming you but is there any one that you feel you would have to save you don't have to say but I need to know cause if I put someone up I don't want them to come after me
G says I don't think I would feel strongly to save A
Ja says I may put A
G says I think as a house it doesn't matter if it'd been E or L or T. We had 2 really hard weeks and they come back and A just wanted to last 2 more weeks but it was hard with Chi (eh says awe look I'm gona cry), well it was hard cause chi reminds me of my daughter
G says what ever you do, even if you put me up, I don't want you to but I'll support it
Ja says people have been telling me things, and then someone else tells me the same thing and I'm seeing things that I didn't see before
It is an oppurtunity but it's not a fun one. This game, I hate this game
G says I know at times I've considered putting everyone up, even yo
J says well today everyones name has come up
G do what's best for Ja
J I don't know if what I do make me a strong person
G Its interesting, like L is much stronger now that E is not here.She thought I was coming after her its not bla bla
Ja I'm going to put it out there please don't let it leave this room. I think I'm going to put A & R and I want to know if you would play the power of veto, if you can't answer thats ok
G I doubt very seriously that I would
Ja people have told me that R has been having everyone doing their dirty work
G says after nom throw your door open and let people come to you


Aug 23 2002 17:43, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60354    Link
more Ja & G
Ja tells G the only reason he's telling him what he's thinking is cause of POV.
and he ask G not to talk, G sasy he keeps his council. the only reason he might want to win POV
Ja says to make sure you don't go?
G laughs and says well another thing is cause it would be the third time

Aug 23 2002 17:46, Fri KADForum: 082302 Post: 60362    Link
Dan gets another chance at Roddy
Marc: I’m so tired of the whole story about the family. And she has to win it, or else.
With that said I still won’t vote to evict her. But unless it gets down to the final 3 it’s a different story.
Jason: Right, I’m glad to hear that. I really don’t like being HOH but I love this bedroom.
Marc: You have to do what’s right for you. You know that Dan, Marc, and Amy won’t put you up.
Jason: I told Amy that I may have to put her up. It’s not that I think she would go I have to put someone else up. Because she was the one that came back.
Marc: Right, but don’t load the vote. That’s what Roddy did. The house makes the vote. No campaigning. That’s where Chiara got in trouble.
Marc goes on about the past with Chiara and her voting against Lisa.
Jason: I would never do that, I give you my word. I wished I was HOH before so I could have found out something’s before this. I still have to talk to Roddy and Gerry quick.
They go outside
Jason: Just so you know I was talking about the Kiki thing.
Now he brings in Gerry

Jason: I’ve brought everybody in to see where they are and if we are all on the same page.
Gerry: I think you have an easy out. We all love her to death but it’s just not fair. And she knows it. The puzzle is who do you put up with her. I’d put Marc up with her rather then Roddy. And I would tell him it’s a game and you’re a game player. But you got to do what you got to do. I don’t want you to put me up but if you no hard feelings.
Jason: that’s what everybody else has said you have to do what you have to do.
Jason: You could say honestly I could have an Easy week. But talking with people today I’ve found out a few things that I didn’t know and put a different spin on it. Ultimately we will have to put out somebody that we all love.
Jason: Let me ask you, if there was a veto used who would you absolutely use it for to save. If you don’t feel comfortable asking I understand. I don’t want to strong arm anybody, but I wouldn’t want that person coming after me the next week.
Gerry: Not this week. I don’t think I would use it.
Jason: Honestly I felt very strong with Amy It’s not a guarantee. I’m just wondering who to go up with her.
Gerry: What ever you choose to do I support. I don’t want to be put up, but if you do I will support you.
Gerry: It is an opportunity.
Jason: But not a fun one.
Roddy barges in and Jason says give me a few moments.
Gerry: Jason you have to what’s best for Jason.
Jason: I think that if I make a move it’s for the best for the rest of us in the house.
Gerry: I think that Lisa is a stronger player now that Eric’s gone. And I’m happy with that.
Jason: I was pleased to see that.
Jason: I’m thinking of putting up Roddy with Amy. Please don’t repeat that. It’s a very tuff day. If Amy goes then so be it.

My feed is choppy

Gerry: Amy told me something else when I was in here.
Jason: What did she tell you?
Gerry: She said she was going to put you up.
Jason: Yes she told me the same thing. And she had, I think I would have been gone. That would have been a tough vote.
Gerry: I think Marc was stronger without Amy.
Jason: I think your right.
Gerry: When she’s gone he has to relate to the rest of us. Do what you do you have my blessing.
Jason: I just ask you please don’t use veto. Don’t discuss with everybody. I don’t know if you feel like saving him, that would make a problem for me.

Aug 23 2002 17:48, Fri sheridanForum: 082302 Post: 60369    Link
Feeds update all 4 on G and J feeding lizards NT

Aug 23 2002 18:06, Fri JokeretteForum: 082302 Post: 60414    Link
HUGE long Jason/Roddy convo... nearly fighting
Jason/Roddy about game… ro says he's not into the game now. Was certain he was going.

Ro says he wants Jason to make a choice. He wants Jason to make sure all agree.

Ja says the easy thing is Amy'Gerry and house decides, but undercurrents and things he's learned are tough for him to deal with.

Ro says are they tough for me too?

Jason says yes. Almost everyone in house has had questions about the Eric week, and kiki/ro have said they don't trust Jason. That was hard for Ja to hear, he says. He goes on to say the Eric week… I'm an idiot, I'm a scumbag, I was a party to a convo and agreed, I did something wrong and that hurt me, and that hurt a friendship we have in the house. He then says it's hard.. I said "Rod, I'm voting against Josh" but it made me cry. The vote 5-0. And then you said you thought it was you, and I knew you didn't trust me.

Jason goes on. He's trying to explain to Roddy how he talked to Kiki, and found out that Roddy has talked about all this.

Roddy says that everyone said he's good at this game. Roddy says he said he trusted Jay. But Dani and Lisa bullshitted him, just look at the vote. He knows Ja was cornered. Ro says he's told everyone how he trusted Jay, and says I can't go back in time (re the Eric day)

Jason says there were a lot of grey areas. He says the agreement was 2-3 weeks, Ro says it was THREE full weeks, I don't get how it was changed around. Ja says he made a mistake. Ro says how clear he's been, and Ja apologises again.

Ro says Kiki made no secret of her anger. All she said was if she went against Lisa, Lisa was gone. But Lisa is still here. If someone wants to say kiki/ro said this or that, kiki was uncomfortable about certain situations. People lobby you, Ja, they want to stay. I did not stab you in back. What do YOU think?

Jason says he doesn't know. Ro says if you'll let gossip move you…

Ja says on that basis alone… And Ro says I didn't say I could, but … (I lost this LOL)

Ro asks Jason who he believes in, Ja says that's his dilemma, and ro says it's like Josh is back. Seeds of doubt in Ja's mind.

Ja says he gave his word several times to Ro. And ro doesn't trust him, and Ro says it's not true, I didn't mean it like that. Ro doesn’t remember who was around for certain convos… and Ro heaves a huge sigh and says if we're going into this… things have been hard for me, with you. But we don't come from same place. I gave you leeway, and if this backfires… I should have been more of a prick and played the game more. If that sends me home, terrible reason to go back up.

Silence falls.

Ro says don't you see it's in everyone's interest if I go. They think I'm smart. Game is survival of the weakest. But if you don't have peeps you trust… you wont be here at the end. Fine. You told me in front of kiki you wouldn't put me up. I would take care of you..

Ja interrupsts and says right before last 3 weeks you came to me… Ro interrupts and says hwo many times? Ja says I SAW you do it to Lisa/Danielle… if you get HoH you won't nominate me. I don't know what deals you have with other people. DO you have deals?

Ro says, breaking words tho… Ja says don’t tell me, and Ro goes on to say he's not sure of any deals he has. Ro says have I LIED to you?

No, but you’ve taken this whole thing… talked behind my back. Ro says no! …

Ro says you don't believe in me… Ja says it's not that… then Jason says maybe I really don’t.

Aug 23 2002 18:10, Fri LolaForum: 082302 Post: 60421    Link
Now its Ja & R in the HOH
Ja gives same opening speach
R says I'm at an all time low in the game cause of the R and no key
Ja explains that the house decides and that there are a lot of undercurrents in the house and that he learned alot a lot of hard things to deal with
R cuts in and asks if it was things that he would have a hard time to deal with
Ja yeah probably. Ja tells him that he heard a lot that it was said that he was a scumbag blah blah Then he goes on to say how much it hurt him and the comment R said after the vote about R thinking the vote was 5 against him and he couldn't trust anyone
R tries to defend himself and says how everyone comes to him and says they ask him and he tried to explain to them that he was golden
R goes on to say how D and L did stuff last week and that he was saying people had to make decisions
theyre getting a little louder and faster
now they're trying to figure out what the deal was way back when, was it 2 weeks or 3 weeks, blah blah
they can't go back
R says Chi made a decision that if L was gone she would have to deal with it
ja says but L is not gone
missed some
R when people come in here to lobby you they trying to get your vote
he gets louder "WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT DO YOU THINK" then quiets a little "who do you believe" thery go back and forth about what Ja heard from people and R saying he didn't say these things. I think R knows he's busted but he really talking it hard. R tells him he knows that ja comes from a different background and how he gave him more leeway and now if that is going to send him home then maybe he should have been more of a prick. R says Ja don't you see it's in everybody's interest for me to go.They're all afraid of me cause they think I'm smart or something. You got to think about who you can trust in the end. At the end you probably won't make it with most of them.
Ja cuts in (Ja's voice is strained) But r I noticed that every week at the end of the week you come and say if I don't put you up then you won't put me up
R tries to defend "Have I ever lied to you, have I."
Ja no but you've gone behind my back and said stuff
R says it's like when your parents ask you if you've been drinking and no matter what you say they don't believe you"
missed some
R says he made mistakes and everyone has made mistake but hasn't it not been the case that they've been straight forward and eye to eye. that day I said that I didn't know i was under testimony "I WAS JUST SCARED, I WAS JUST SCARED"
missed what Ja said
R goes on to say that if he said that he knew ja was under a lot of pressure etc
feed switch

Aug 23 2002 18:10, Fri bruheForum: 082302 Post: 60422    Link
mid way thru roddy and jasons talk
roddy seems to be reaching.
they are going back and forth very quicky too fast to transcribe. he is defending himself and trying to press the roddy chiara jason special friendship. he also maintains that he has never lied to jason or others.
suddenly the convo switches to A and D... dang it

Aug 23 2002 18:26, Fri bruheForum: 082302 Post: 60456    Link
feed sca... 2 feeds on g and a in kitchen talking poppyseeds and 3 and 4 ignoring Ja & R talking (idiot cbs people) NT

Aug 23 2002 18:29, Fri JokeretteForum: 082302 Post: 60460    Link
Roddy insisting how trustworthy he is and how Jay should trust him (long)

Convo goes on. Ro says he was scared, and Ja says me too. I'm ain horrible position. I can make it a easy thing or..

Ro says and you'll.. because you thought I didn't trust you.

Jas says I've heard little things here and there… and today I asked.

Ro says obviously it's odd it came out today. Kiki was upset about this, she had to break her word. But Jay made a mistake and felt he'd been bullied. Jay I believe in you. If you think otherwise you're making mistake. If I said thinks to Kiki out of anger…

Ja says that person said ALL kinds of thins you said, amazing.

FEED changed

Ro sys part of thing with Eric was just and understanding. Ja says he saw that, and it scared him. Maybe no one can do anything… what am I doing here? Ro will win.

Ja says he broke the deal.. ro says the only peeps left are Lisa. He's now in the wind. Ro thinks he went from doing well to when Ger said it was a power group they had to go. Hopefully it's over.. I thought it was over, allies gone.

Ja says don't you feel like… you control this house? Ro says how? Ja says everyone does what you say. Yeah it's nom day, it's all suspect… ro says he napped for 3 hours. Ja says yes that's why we're talking. I start asking and hear stories. And…

Ro says it can't be LOTS of people… Ja says I'm talking bout others… Ro says that's not fair to do to me. Ja says do you have a deal with anyone else not to nom? You said things about my trustworthininess and hurt me in the house. Others doubt Ja now.. all Ro has to do is say the word… and people believe.

Ro says all my people are gone. And I feel I'm fresh out of bed and you slam me. I can't believe you do so much forgetting and let someone lobbying you, and let that affect the friendship. Do you think anything is a secret in this house? Ja says there's a lot he didn't know.

Ro wishes it were the case. He thought Gerry would keep him in, but that was on Kiki and she's gone. Last thing is the thing with Dani, and if she never gets Hoh, it won't help Ro. He says that's not immoral, I didn't know who to put, and Dani said if he didn't put her up.. is that so bad? If it's a deal, it could be nothing. And Jay, go by your feeling.

Ja sdoesnt trust his own emotion.. Ro says it's a game… Ja says he knows that. And they get more upset . Ja feels Roddy is manipulating him using friendship.. saying don't see me as a player (as a friend, rather. BOOM! Good on JASON!)

Now Roddy says people came to him, and he (ro) tried to keep Jason off the bloack. He says he told Gerry if he put Ja up, he himself would go. And he says Jay didn't ask him to do that. Ro then tells Jay again how he believes in him.

Ro saying that he could have had Kiki put Jason up. And he had a good story for it. And rod presses Jay, He goes on to say how he defended Jay throuth Jays mistake. And how others ask if he still trusts Jay. Then RO says he completely trusts Jay.

Ro goes on and on and talks of Jay's mistake and how the 'kid was bullied' and how he had the weight of the universe on his shoulders. Ro says if Kiki liked him and someone told Ja that Kiki didn't trust him over one comment… and goes on to say how consistent he (Ro) was with Ja and how with Kiki NO one was safe, and she'd looked at putting up Jay but Ro had said how she believed in him. Why would I go tell you or anyone that? It would be like I manipulated yu

Ja breaks in and says but YOU DID tell me that story (!!!!) and they talk fast, Ro says but not like that, and Ro begins to stutter.

Ro wants to show Jay by telling him 'the gerry thing' and how he wishes he had the place wired. And in the beginning, the people who backed him are gone.. and if he had say would those people be gone?

Ro says Jay you have my word that I trust/believe in you. I don't understand how you got otherwise. If you don’t think I've shown you straightforward, there's nothing else I can offer you. Been honest and if people assume I'm dr evil I can't help that. I stick up for/care for people. If I say I'll do soemthing I'll do it. I know you're worried.. but you said you'd never met anyone like me.

Ja says and that's when you started doing it (the friendship vs game thing). Ja says I haven't played a whole lot. Ro again says if something got back via Kiki/Josh… and Jay says ANYthing Josh said… and Rod says I can make a mistake. I never stuck it in your ear. But you've gotten the best of me. You think I have everyone wired. I wish I did. Kiki is gone. What could I have, setup? He's breathing heavily and they fall silent.

Ro says if the friendship things I say distract you, I won't do it. It's to prove what you're all about, your level of honesty. Being good person is not just when having fun, but being good. If you have doubts, I don't understand why, but if you ask me something I will do. I trust you in the game. I use the word trust… on and on and on.

Aug 23 2002 18:41, Fri JokeretteForum: 082302 Post: 60487    Link
Part 3 of the Jason/Roddy saga in the HoH
Jay says I'll say another thing, though I know you have an answer for it all.. I will walk out thinking I am totally wrong. I hear these things and I feel threatened. So what do I do?

Rod says so I shouldn't tell you what's in my mind/heart.

Jay says yes. Rod goes on to talk about Kiki and the alliances she has. And Dani and Lisa and the deals they have… Ro says he didn't want to give up Kiki's thoughts, at this convo he and Jay had had earlier.

Ja says he's been a floater. He says that when he gave Ro his word on the Josh vote.. I didn't want there to be an Eric situation. Kiki came to me this week and said to evict her. I didn't answer her.

Ro says when you see what happens… I asked her not to do it, as Ja would think I put her up (Jason says he did believe that). Ro says Kiki was miserable. He told her to say whatever she wants. Then he goes into their relationship probs, and how he begged her not to go to Jay and how determined she was. And how she kept saying she wanted to go.

Ro says did you hear Gerry's story of the dude who burned his own house.. that's what Kiki did. Ro says I =do= have an answer. Kiki hated being here, she hated Amy, she hated Gerry… and I asked her NOT to say this, but she kept saying Jay would respect my wishes and Ro adds that Jay would feel cornered. She said she'd for sure tell Jay how bad she wanted to go before the live show. But then she said she didn't want to talk about the game anymore… and it was an hour before show. She asked Gerry also.. she wanted to go.

Ro again talks of how Jay has his and kiki's trust. And how Ja can only hedge his bets. And how better they are if they have each other, and how often he (ro) has approached Jay whilst he was HoH. Then Ro says if it seems like I have things under control… I am confident. If I go, I go. I'll go home. But I won't leave on scumbaggig people. If it's you and me at the end… I see so much of me in you. You know eactly how I feel. I've stuck up for you this whole time and I'll keep doing that, you knucklehead.

Silence again.

Jay says I'm scared of you over all this. Every week I know Roddy will win this game. Ja says this is MY time. I haven't won Hoh and I have a million things on my head.

Ro says do you think I trust you? Ja says yes. Ro says how great a person Ja is. Ja says I think you're amazing and brilliant, and when you say those things I trust you. But you trust a parent and sometimes they let you down… FOTH

Aug 23 2002 18:43, Fri bruheForum: 082302 Post: 60489    Link
feedupdates again (longish but not too informative)
more feed updates... lisa in bathroom with M he is sweeping the floor and she is brushing her teeth. gerry trying to play with marcellas trying to act like him and having fun. marcellas was calling himself jimbo or something. amy is in the shower. asking for something from g but there isnt any. now lisa brings her some conditioner. roddy animated (silence) talking to ja who seems to like sitting with his eyes closed based on what i see on my slow feeds. his mouth is tight and he looks uncomfortable (thanks big brother for instead letting us hear the oh so more important potty room talk - not).
g m talk about frolickin m talking in his hillbilly voice. lisa digging around in wc. they need soap. god this is dramatic.
apparently there is approx. an hour to noms... g appears restless. now a closeup of the food comp. shark. goofy looking thing poised in a dining room chair. roddy and ja still talking... both smile... let me hear!
gerry says this week is a very important week for product placement (joke about the dunkin donoghts they got)
feed cuts to outside... they ask are they still in there? hoh? d sayd does roddy know that he is going up? M doesnt have his mic on. cant hear him. li says its getting ugly. m with his white robe and conditioner walking around saying he looks like sisquo lol. he prances and goes thong thong thong.
foh. posting

Aug 23 2002 18:45, Fri KADForum: 082302 Post: 60493    Link
Rod squirms
Jason: I’ve done this same thing with the others and I would like to ask what your thinking.
Roddy: I’m a low point in this game with the whole Kiki and Roddy on block. I was prepared to leave. I don’t want to be responsible in anyway, I want you to make your own choice. There’s a part of me that says get Amy out of here because she had me and Kiki up and she’s gone now. But I don’t want to say anything, I want you to decide.
Jason: I’ve heard things from people that have made it hard for people to deal with.
Roddy: I can assume it’s also about what your friend Roddy has to deal with.
Jason: Possible. I’m having hard time with people saying you can’t trust certain people.
It’s like that whole Eric thing. It’s like because I’m a party to a conversation , I should have voted one way. It’s like when you said for a moment you didn’t trust me when the vote was 5-0 against Josh and you said for a moment I thought you voted me out.
Roddy: No that’s not right.
Jason: I talked about it with Chiara and you not trusting me once and I haven’t talked about it again. But I’ve found out people have said you have since brought it up to them.
Roddy: I have said that my trust in Jason is golden, but I can’t believe he went against me and voted out Eric. I didn’t say you agreed, I just thought you and I were on the same thought about it. Dan put her own spin on that. She slipped right by this week on something she said.
Jason: I’m not debating this. I’ve been incredible clear on what I’ve said and didn’t say.
Roddy: Don’t worry about what they say, don’t let gossip make your decision. You said your self put up people that lie. Put up the person who lied to our closest friend in the house. She said she wouldn’t vote her out.
Jason: I don’t know who you mean.
Roddy: Chiara said about these conversations a lot I just can’t remember. In a way Josh is back in the house. With her lies and games. To think that if my respect for you is the reason I’m going back up is a terrible thing. J don’t you see it’s in everybody best interest to see me go. It’s survivor of the weakest. Chances are it’s going to be them in the end not you. Chiara and I said we would look out for each other.
Jason: And all this every week you’ve said hey if you get HOH you won’t nominate me right? And you wait for them to answer. And I think hey does this guy have deals with everybody.
Roddy: Have I lied to you about a thing.
Jason: I don’t know but I think you talk about me behind my back.
Roddy: I’ve always said I believe in you.
Jason: I believe in you too.
Roddy: I feel like the more I deny it the guiltier I look.
Jason: I feel so uncomfortable at times. Throwing deals around.
Roddy: Don’ t you realize that there was a special relationship with you me and Chiara.
Roddy: You thought I didn’t trust you. Is the reason you put me up. On the day of nomination. You’re going to listen to gossip. I think it’s highly suspect on nomination days. I always said I think J must have a reason. If you think other wise your making a mistake. If I said things with Chiara out of anger about you it was to support her.

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh the cameraman changed feeds to the girls. Ok found them again.

Jason: I started to think that everybody had a deal with Roddy.
Roddy: That’s not true. The only people left from that original people were you and Lisa. Those other people are gone J. I thought we are passed from Gerry saying these people are power freaks.
Jason: Don’t you think you have control over people here.
Roddy: What people.
Jason: Everybody, Everybody does everything you say. I’m hearing lot of stories.
Roddy: I can’t believe there are a lot of people.
Jason: Are there people that have deals with you. Are there people that can’t vote against you. Everybody speaks the word then everybody listens.
Roddy: If you think that way then go ahead, but all my people are gone.
Jason: They’re where a lot of things I didn’t no about. I was blissfully ignorant.
Roddy: I thought there was something with Gerry but Chiara’s gone so that’s gone. It was Chiara’s deal that she wouldn’t put him up if he wouldn’t vote me out. And there was the one with Dan that if she gets it she doesn’t put me up and I don’t put her up.
Roddy: You don’t think I could have had Chaira put you up instead of me. We could have told that story.
Jason: You could have told it and you did.
Roddy: It’s been asked 100 times do you trust J. I’ve said I doubted him when it happened but my trust in him is golden. If I made a mistake for answering that when was asked. I said the kid made of mistake. I should have not answered when asked. It’s so frustrating. Roddy I hope you believe me as much as I believe to you. You really think I have any juice here, I mean Chiara is gone. If something doubted my word and the way I feel about you. I have nothing else to offer you. I’ve been myself , I’ve been straight forward. I’ve showed you a good person that sticks up for people and cares for people.
Roddy: You definitely have and Oliver Stone here, where you think I have everybody wired and people talking in strange languages.
Roddy: Amy made a mistake, Dan made a big mistake and Lisa made a gargantuan mistake.
Jason: There is one more thing, but I know you have an answer for everything.
Roddy: What do mean that’s not nice at all.
Jason: If somebody says I have a deal with him or her. Then sometime or another it’s going to come along and the deals are going to meet up. I thought Chiara was spreading herself thin. She was hooked up with everybody. I feel like I was a floater, I’ve been afraid. That’s why I said when it was you and Josh I said I give you my word. That’s all I need to say. Chiara said I want you to evict me, I don’t want you to save me. And I didn’t respond to her. Chiara told me that. And she wanted to leave badly. I said to her say that to anybody but don’t say that to J. He will think I set this up. The more that put that on him the more he will think it was my wishes. I told her not to confront you. And she was like Bull [censored]. She wouldn’t listen, and that’s one of the reason we had problems in our relationship. She hated being her, she hated Amys guts she hated Gerry, she wanted out of here. I new this is what would happen. I said did you talk to J, and she said no, I’ll do it later. And she asked Gerry too. She wanted to go.
Roddy: If you really think that about me and you think I’m that clever wouldn’t you want me on your team.
Jason: But that also makes me very afraid of you.

FOH now so I will post.



Aug 23 2002 18:52, Fri KADForum: 082302 Post: 60508    Link
The end
Roddy: It’s in my best interest to keep you around. If that’s not game talk then there is none. I want you here more then anybody else. If it works that fine. Your word is what I’ve been looking for throughout this game. That’s the real story here.
Roddy: What ever you do J-Bird I’m supportive of you. He starts again…we already said it all, you big jerk, thinking of putting me up.

Jason Locks the door and gets the lights out to think alone.

Aug 23 2002 19:13, Fri WhatsNewForum: 082302 Post: 60559    Link
As soon as Roddy left the HOH, Dani cornered Jason and Roddy went to Lisa to say what was said in the HOH between Jason & Roddy NT

Aug 23 2002 19:14, Fri bruheForum: 082302 Post: 60563    Link
feed updates.
foh over after 5 minutes... roddy and jason still talking in silence dammit. marcellas cannot find his normal voice after talking southern hillbilly so long. he starts rapping .. m does... random designer rap. G and D play cards. D asks if helmut lang(e) is male or female. m says man. he says he would pursue a relationship with him because he is a genius.
there is talk about their party tonight... dunno if bb is giving them a treat tonight or if she is talking (d i mean) about celebrating jasons noms?
feeds cut away totally from ro and ja... one shot on M, now we see roddy walking out of hoh room.. cameras going a bit nuts here..
my feeds uts... i think i see amy laying down..... or is it jason in hoh room. other too feeds showing m and d outside with g.
small talk they have is unimportant. but shes talking about her pregnancies and her fertility... fertile and myrtle
d says the high bb ratings are all because of m. he says im the come back kid to her compliment about being the best character. he says then why did yall want to voite me out of here twice? gerry: are you still here? m well.. g: are you stilllll heeeere? m: yes.. g: i rest my case.
ok a close up verifies it is jason in hoh in dark... hand over his brow... obviously has a lot on his mind.
no sign of lisa amy or roddy right now... looks like jason got up out of the bed... its empty. now we see roddy in the shower. amy at the wc sink. o sound but i cant tell if they are talking or not. the card game lumbers on. excruciating. m says noms in 45 minutes.. we wont be able to work out anymore... what time is the party tonight? now i dont study dudes in showers at all.. but from roddy at the neck up in shower.. he seems pretty deep in thought from the look on his face.
gerry is playing around being funny and m says oh my god marcellas is being mocked. jokingly. these three seem now in good spirits. now i spy lisa apparently doing laundry. shes quiet. d loses the game and leave table in a play huff... marcellas laughs and says if yo little girl did that get up from dat table like dat youd snatch a knot in her butt. joking how his mom used to threaten him like that. d goes over to laundry... lisa has gone inside to wc. with amy and roddy still in shower. m goes over to d... talking alliances and voting roddy out. g at the table alone. lisa comes back out. m jokes you better stay away from little baby jason. hes mine... we got rid of chiara and now its my turn.
li sayd i am excited that we get a little party tonight for half way. m jokes wining aint nothin happen when i was hoh.. all i got was to watch josh cheat every chance he got.
li said that boy josh he made me tired.
li said i was so happy to get on his bad side so early that he didnt bother me from all his deals and stuff. they laugh. they joke roddy is in his thinking spot the shower and ja is in his.. on the toilet.. lisa jokes poor jason had to go [censored] himself after that conversation with roddy.
li says g's job is good training for dealing with the house. g babbles on but ja came out of the house. g goes on.. walk away from confrontation.... ja comments on party too.... he says we are having a big party after i get to be a big weenie. li said i thought S.C. was the big half way celebration. they joke about how they were like thats sheryl crow... d wasnt able to believe it and kept going thats s.c. g and li talk about something amy had said... i missed it but apparently something happened with her earlier. amy is getting dressed up it seems.. black dress.. doing her makeup now.
now the talk sounds like there is a lockdown.. party is happening for a portion of the house or something.. because they are having to pull the shades down. now it sounds like BB staff is having a party tonight... and the hg have their own party. this doesnt bode well for the live feeds. g thinks the bb people the staff will be in the yard partying and the HG will be in the house partying and there will prob be a huge foh for us .. we that make it all possible byspending money and watching the damn show. lol.
li thinks that most of the major arguing in the house has passed... that the group is leveled out enough .g agrees. jason is now in the hoh room and d is talking to him (no sound). boy last minute nom pressure for the messiah.
g says every exit from now on will be tearful.. li says every one will be hard... amy was easy because it was known and prepared for.. josh was cake... lori was strange because it was first and awkward... first real bb tv experience. roddy apparently has come out to the backyard. roddy misses a basket and g jokes im glad you are better at shooting the donuts..from the food comp.
roddy sitting with li on beach chairs... he says hes had a sh-t-y day. li and ro start whispering.. and feed cuts out damn!!!!!!

Aug 23 2002 19:23, Fri WhatsNewForum: 082302 Post: 60589    Link
Jason seems stressed on making the decision. Dani told him ...
It is completely up to you. Dani said Roddy will make it completely to the end. I just know it.

D: Do you believe anyones word in this house?

J: I believe you ... (Dani looks happy) ... and Roddy's word ... (Dani looks phony pie eyed)

Saved by Jason please go to the diary room

Aug 23 2002 19:24, Fri bruheForum: 082302 Post: 60591    Link
jason and d talking just before noms
jason andd talking now.. ja is torn.. ja doesnt know what roddy is working and they are not sharing between them. ja says he trusts d but also trusts d. he is called to diary room now... but before d was basically telling him the only person he can trust is her. he is confused as to what to do... hmmmm d was working him hard and had said if roddy's key comes outof that box.....threat?

Aug 23 2002 19:45, Fri SharkyForum: 082302 Post: 60641  ParentRootLink
Not a threat . . . Jas said if he saves R, he'll pull R key out first. Dani said, if I see Roddy's key, then I'll know.
Jason was really having a hard time making his decision. Roddy's talk really seemed to sway him. He did also mention to Dani that no one will have the guts to make the hard decision SO, who knows what he will do.

Aug 23 2002 19:28, Fri KADForum: 082302 Post: 60604    Link
Rod goes to confront Lisa

Roddy: Because of it, he’s probably put me up. I could have spilled it but I care about you and I wouldn’t hurt you.
Lisa: He asked me if you have discussed with me how Roddy feels about the Eric thing. And I said his trust in you was golden and I haven’t really talked to him about it since Eric left. The only things that where said about it came from Chiara.
Roddy: Please don’t repeat this to anybody. But the eight million things I’ve said great about him he seems to know about the one negative thing I’ve said. And it is Chiara spin on it that he’s believing. It was her way to justify voting against you by saying if Jason wouldn’t have changed his vote you wouldn’t have been here to know how she voted.
Lisa: If he said that it didn’t come from me.
Roddy: He said the same story keeps coming up. I don’t know it will be close if he does.
Lisa: I wouldn’t want to be you right now.
Roddy: He kept saying that you have an answer for everything. I’m like I am observant and if there’s a reasonable answer for something I say it. I think last year games are brought in this year.
Lisa: I think it was because Josh brought it in here, and he says at the end it’s all a lie. But the damage was already done.
Lisa: If you wan to blame me go-ahead but if I put money on it I wasn’t the one that influenced him.
Roddy: I’m trying to think who I said that around. And all I can think of it was you.
Lisa: You know what it is that Chiara went around and talked about it with a lot of people.
Roddy: If I go out I could have pulled a Joshy. He’s biggest phobia is that I was running the whole show and it was reinforced by everybody today.
Lisa: He couldn’t have got that from me.
Roddy: I shouldn’t have done a lot of things, I shouldn’t have stuck up for Chiara. But I can’t go back in time and change things.

Feed switches to Dan and Jason in HOH
Dan: You and I can’t let people know that we are together on this.
Jason: I just don’t have a good feeling about this.
Dan: Then we’ll never get him out of here. He will make it to the end.
Jason: Here’s the thing.
Dan: Who do you trust in this game?
Jason: I know I trust you, but I trust him too.

BB says Jason please come to the DR

Dan: Damn
Jason: Well I don’t have the decision.

BB says go to patio pull shades
Dan goes outside.



Aug 23 2002 19:40, Fri QuenchForum: 082302 Post: 60625    Link
Marc has named the Shark it's Huck M: If I had a son I would name him Huck NT

Aug 23 2002 19:46, Fri KADForum: 082302 Post: 60642    Link
More of Lisa and Roddy
Roddy: Could you have touched on it, and somebody ran with it to him.
Lisa: I couldn’t with other people around.
Roddy: It just bothered me, I shouldn’t have helped Chiara so much. I shouldn’t have said anything about that.
Lisa: The time you said about it I had to leave. I didn’t think it was a big thing.
Roddy: I make a tremendous effort not to say anything bad about anybody.
Lisa: Could Chaira have said something.
Roddy: I know , I know but the more I would say about it I would think this kid thinks I’m trying to put it on Chiara. Have you ever given him borderline information that he would take it this way.
Lisa: I can remember him saying I’m going with the house on this.

Roddy: Didn’t you think for a while that it was incredible boring here. Now I’ve seem acclimated here.
Lisa: It’s because you know your not going anywhere for a while.

Aug 23 2002 20:22, Fri KADForum: 082302 Post: 60701    Link
Marc and Dan
Don't know what they think Amy told Gerry

Marc: Did Amy tell Gerry.
Dan: OHH
Marc: That’s what she did.
Dan: Ask her
Marc: I told her not to say anything I told her not to anyone.
Dan: We need to tighten are Jaw on that.
Marc: I need to make a lockdown on the information. It’s on a need to know bases. And You don’t need to know that you shouldn’t even ask. It gets serious from here on out Dan.
Dan: I have to get HOH next week.
Marc: You or me.
Dan: Ain’t that the truth.
Marc: I could taste that this week.
Dan: (screams, laughs in agreement.) Now dancing in mirror checking herself out.
Dan: You know who put on some weight.
Marc: I dunno
Dan: Amy (motions drinking) cause this puts on that.
Dan: What if they get a loved one in the house. Oh my god if it’s my husband.
Marc: It better be Gerry this week.
Dan: Marc don’t worry, you know it’s going to be either or.
Dan: I said Just go ahead and do what your going to do.
Marc: It’s suicide for him not to put Roddy up.
Dan: I’m going to put it all on the side and make sure I get HOH.
Marc: What’s taking so long.
Dan: If I get HOH next week I don’t want to talk to nobody. My door is closed.
Marc: I need to get to a place where I can stand that man(Gerry).
Dan: You can’t. It’s like that Josh thing. You know what’s funny about that whole thing was he lied thru his teeth.






Aug 23 2002 20:28, Fri EdinboroForum: 082302 Post: 60709  ParentRootLink
Actually M & D NT

Aug 23 2002 20:50, Fri TootsieForum: 082302 Post: 60740    Link
Gerry is one nomination NT

Aug 23 2002 20:51, Fri TootsieForum: 082302 Post: 60746    Link
Nominations are Gerry and Amy NT

Aug 23 2002 20:52, Fri BettyRubbleForum: 082302 Post: 60751    Link
Amy is the other. NT

Aug 23 2002 20:52, Fri StarkForum: 082302 Post: 60752    Link
Official Noms: Amy vs. Gerry NT

Aug 23 2002 21:17, Fri TurboleeForum: 082302 Post: 60812    Link
A started to tell L a story, says "sorry BB I'm not supposed to do this, cut to the FOTH, & they do! NT

Aug 23 2002 21:56, Fri AMYGEEForum: 082302 Post: 60935    Link
Amy tells Lisa she got in trouble in the DR for telling a story and telling them to cut to FOTH. NT

Aug 23 2002 22:02, Fri AMYGEEForum: 082302 Post: 60957    Link
Hg's at table eating pizza and drinking beer. General banter. Would post specifics
about conversations, but Amy is screaming and cackling so loudly, she's distorting all my sound. Jason said something about coming up with all kinds of strategies while the music is piped in, because he knows that can't be shown on the internet. Dani is coaxing Amy to drink more saying 'lets get this party started.' ED NOTE: Dani may possibly be coaxing Amy so she will behave obnoxiuosly and annoy the other HG's and they'll remember it come voting time.

Aug 23 2002 22:21, Fri AMYGEEForum: 082302 Post: 61011    Link
Extended FOTH. (Either Amyis singing, or they're piping the music in.) NT

Aug 23 2002 22:26, Fri laineForum: 082302 Post: 61019    Link
All HG sitting at table with the pizza and beer, Jerry looks very somber. Amy talking about her drinking >>
during her two weeks out of the house. She drank 2 bottles of champagne before she came back, ROddy says, "I remember when you came back we all asked you if you got to drink and everytime you talk about it now you drank more and more." She explains she only drunk twice in Mexico, both on kareokee nights. She sang, Summertime (?), Crazy by Patsy Cline, "which I do a very good rendition of" Amy had to add, and New York New York. She also did backup for All The Leaves are Brown, a Prince song, and some others. She was going to do Purple Rain, with so and so the trapeze guy but it shutdown before they had the chance. Went to FOTH when Marc asked what All the Leaves are Brown was and she started singing chorus. Feeds came back shortly but all are talking about Kareokee and what they would sing.

(Might be FOTH a lot tonight, especially with music from BB, I hope not.)

Aug 23 2002 23:01, Fri laineForum: 082302 Post: 61113    Link
Back from FOTH,
My feed is fixed on the Dunkin Doughnut box, (which use to be an add on the side of my feeds they probably will have Taco Bell later down the road). Jerry still looks very somber, now he was called to DR and goes to BR first (he really looks out of place 8(

Roddy talking about city people, points to MArc, with all you sterilizing for germs you are more likely to be suspetible (sp?) to disease because you are not building your immune system. Marc agrees.

Dani, "Guys put the salad up for tomorrow."
Ja, "Who you talking too?"
I think Ja obediently is putting it away.




BTW: The HG have been treated to a Halfway Party and are on lockdown inside, have been given Beer and a bottle of Champagne, pizza, salad, and a big cookie cake. BB promises music too, later on. I don't think it happened yet because they are still talking about Kareokee.

Aug 23 2002 23:14, Fri laineForum: 082302 Post: 61160    Link
Lights just dimmed in the house.
Roddy is so unseduced by the Kennedy thing. He cares nothing about them because they care nothing about him.

Lisa, you weren't interested in the Princess Di thing either.

R, it was a sad story.

R, could care less about these celebrities because they are not on a personal relationship. He is more a family and friends guy. Would never spend his morning checking up on celebrities.

A, whining about being evicting, (in a good natured way). Marc was supposed to be campaigning against me. Wants to listen to music in HOH, I guess Dani is 1st on headphones cause she's after her.

A to Marc, "You said I was a muffin away from a fat girl."

Amy wants to clean up
Ja, Amy don't clean up
A, why
J, because I said so, Don't make me put you on the block this week
Everyone, laughs

Ja, Can you believe we have another comp tomorrow
Marc, what comp
Ja, Sat is VETO isn't it?

Marc, under his breath to Ja "Thank you for not nominating me"
Ja, Your welcome
Marc and Ja playing kings in the corner

All the while Amy babbling on while cleaning
"What is it such an astronomical event that I am cleaning"

Aug 23 2002 23:23, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61196    Link
Wow, FOTH without theme music! NT

Aug 23 2002 23:23, Fri laineForum: 082302 Post: 61197    Link
Ja, Roddy we got to start making ourselves throwup >>
Everyone especially Ger, just out of DR, laughs
Marc, he was being totally serious but I was thinking good idea

Marc and Jas playing cards near kitchen table
Rod and Lisa playing chess

Ja, put his icecream given to him for HOH in the big freezer in storage room and BB cleaned it out today and took his icecream, he told them he might get it back??? (poor guy)

All feeds on FOTH now, no theme song though????????
Amy and Ger hanging out near chess game
Amy is loud
Dan in HOH listening to music.

Aug 23 2002 23:27, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61218    Link
Quick peek at a white gnome statue holding the basketball out back, and another gnome holding the pool skimmer. NT

Aug 23 2002 23:30, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61236    Link
Lockdown over, Amy outside opening shades, and she fines the gnomes and a note >>>
Each HG has to adopt a gnome and decorate it, then leave it in the storage room before the end of the night. They are running around selecting their gnome.

Aug 23 2002 23:32, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61245    Link
One gnome had Citrona, M got it, and Amy chased him around the yard saying "Give me that Citrona" >>>
laughing and chasing, and finally M stopped and says "Take it, you alcoholic!" And Amy got the booze.

Aug 23 2002 23:33, Fri MirageForum: 082302 Post: 61246    Link
R-"The guy from the Antiques Road Show will come to appraise them." NT

Aug 23 2002 23:33, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61247    Link
All HGs sitting at outside table with paints and gnomes. Arts & Crafts time. NT

Aug 23 2002 23:34, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61252    Link
L to M: Marc, what color is that? M: Brown! I'm gonna make mine black like me! G: Marc is making the "soul gnome" NT

Aug 23 2002 23:36, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61258    Link
G: Get a paper towel and some water and you can clean your brushes. Don't forget, I'm a teacher, this is what I do. NT

Aug 23 2002 23:42, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61276    Link
Jason surmises they will use the gnomes in a competition. "We'll take baseball bats to each others gnomes, if yours survives, you win" NT

Aug 23 2002 23:47, Fri OreoKingForum: 082302 Post: 61293    Link
Amy just got paint on her sweater! A: Oh, my, I just got paint on my cashmere sweater. Marcellus, do you know how to take care of this? >>>
M: You're on your own, baby girl.
A: Are you f@#$ing sh*ttin' me?
(ooohs from the crowd)
A: Well, y'all didn't just get blue paint on your red cashmere sweater.
G: That's because we weren't stupid enough to wear cashmere sweaters while we were painting.
(more OOOOOOooohs.)


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