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Aug 31 2002 00:18, Sat	RMU	Forum: 083102 Post: 78718				Link
R melt down... in the hammock w L...
R extremely bitter - says M f*cked him over, J f*cked him over and D f*cked him over... saying that they won't keep him because they've lied so terribly... Criticizing the remaining HGs for wanting "weak" people with them at the end "F*cking Slags" R saying the M told him the whole house wanted M to nom. R 0 including L... L tells R that M included her name because of the whole E thing. Now rather convoluted explanation from R (his "logic" escapes me) but says his biggest mistake was hanging out with Jo, etc. Now explaining how he came into the game with pure intentions and how other people's (Chiara) bad behavior has reflected on him... he tried to distance himself when they acted badly.... R asks L what is she thinking? L - Honestly, I know that you care about (can't hear because of plane!!).... now, for some reason, it's really hurting me to see you (missed some more) ... L says basically that it hurts to see how R now has something bad to say about everyone... Telling him it's only a game.. R interrupted once or twice "I know it's only a game." L says the anger / hurt he's displaying seems extreme... R thanks L but then goes on to say he doesn't think he's angry... again explains how ethically he's played the game... L reminds him again it's a game... R: It's strange... long pause.... switches to how he hasn't heard a good reason why he's going... R says he would love to see L or J to win this thing... L: Why are you selling yourself so short? (he sounds like he's accepted that he will be the one to leave). R: (paraphrased) I know that ppl will vote to keep who they want to be up against at the end... brings up how when E left R was so confident he didn't even say goodbye to him cause R was so sure E was staying - that's why he was so mad at J... Thanks L for being so nice. L - sometimes it's a curse. R - (missed some) but saying he doesn't like the people using the DR as a personal shrink they can use when upset. When M comes out of the DR, R says he's sh*tting bricks - because his grandfather is watching... how anyone, after an hour, is bound to say something mean... Feeds change to M talking (rather loudly) at A... posting

Aug 31 2002 00:22, Sat	Kaz	Forum: 083102 Post: 78737		Parent	Root	Link
when the plane went over, she said 'I know youcare about the cameras in here..
but I don't' and took his hand in hers..

Aug 31 2002 00:23, Sat	RMU	Forum: 083102 Post: 78738				Link
M, A in the dining room ....
J is watching dishes while M yells at A for a bit (I missed what for) but they've resolved the issue and are friends again... M offers A half of his Citrona - A declines - M says is that because you're pouting? A says no, it's like a tease... some talk of A drinking other people's alcohol but M says it's not an issue if the peson offers. A gets the Citrona in the end... J comes over and they discuss ab class for a minute... now feed one switches back to R & L in the hammock... posting

Aug 31 2002 00:32, Sat	RMU	Forum: 083102 Post: 78777				Link
R still ragging on being nominated for "wrong" reasons...
R was discussing C for a bit but I missed the gist of his point... now says D lied when said she trusted him as she told R in front of M earlier that she doesn't trust him... L now discussing C... how she lost C's vote because of Jo... C trusted Jo over L, who was her friend is "the same thing" (as R & D) for doing nothing wrong... Says it is a game, but it sucks when you lose someone's trust. R tells L that C told him that she wasn't all that close to L at first, was closer to T... that C used to ask him if he liked L... implying that C was jealous ("this could cause trouble")... L murmurs something to the effect that she downplays herself because of that... R rambles on and on but before I hear the point of his story the feeds switch to M & A again...

Aug 31 2002 00:37, Sat	RMU	Forum: 083102 Post: 78800				Link
M telling A that R offered him a deal awhile ago...
M says R's language made him want to believe it - at that moment M was feeling rather an anit-M atmosphere in the house - M cites how R won the brownie contest - how everyone whispered that R was too smart, etc. to be trusted... M said it was "you watch my back and I'll watch yours" but the same week C did something and then M didn't like what they did to J and he decided that he couldn't trust R and to just drop him.. D comes out of the DR and the conversation changes....

Aug 31 2002 00:56, Sat	RMU	Forum: 083102 Post: 78857				Link
All 4 feeds on the dining room - M, A & D....
M leaves and D asks A how she's doing.... A says fine - and D gives her a pep talk... hang in there, etc. D says if she could only win HOH... tells A that she could win it next week as well.. and after that, they think the HOH can try every week to win... A gets up and starts banging things around - she's taking out the garbage (lol - not D!).. J enters and says he's going to take a shower... a little chitchat and then he leaves... A is back at the table sitting across from D... longish silence... (feeds recycle) back - more silence - then A says it's going to be a long nite for her.. then talks about the uneven tan on her legs... J walks through the room and back again... D asks A if she's gonna have fun? A says she's trying... D says to have fun. A says she doesn't like the polictics of the game - that she hates the game. How "perception is everything" turns her stomache. The small town where she grew up was the same way. (J walks through the room again and stomps loudly - either to alert them of his presence - A yells to him she's not that bad)... talks more about perception... D says she goes by facts and facts alone. It may not make sense to A, but that's how she does it. A says by leaving the house for 2 weeks she missed the hardest part - how hard it's been coming back and having ppl tell her she wouldn't understand... D agrees that A wouldn't understand. A when I was sequestered they told me I was still in the game... (missed some dicussion between A & D as it was rather vague) A: this has been such a learinging experience D: I believe everyone will take something with them A: there are so many things - I can't talk about them in the house, but I told M I would tell him when the game is over... D: Life is good - it's fund watching you play water polo... we giggle... regardless of what happens this is my time to be young again and to meet people... F3&4 are on L & R - switching

Aug 31 2002 01:22, Sat	RMU	Forum: 083102 Post: 78934				Link
R says he loves talking about things that are uncomfortable...
Just before that he said and then C left (rats, I missed something good!) L says she's not uncomfortable.. brief sidebar on how long L's been up and exercising... R says his (M's?) speech was harsh and unnecessary... more rehashing on D telling R she's trusts him 100% but then telling M she doesn't trust R in the game - it makes D a BFL (big f*cking liar)... how D's avoided R since then because she knows R's right... how D's gonna pay in the end by only taking home 50 grand... R says to L that he wished that L had talked to him before they got to her... L says she didn't know him then (plane overhead) ... she says she never specially confided in anyone.... R now telling L that their conversation about G came back to him via M and he knew that L had discussed it after R had specifically asked L not to talk about it, he wasn't holding it about her... L says she's going to defend herself - how if ppl ask her the right questions, she won't lie... R says he would have said that he and L discussed it and decided not to comment on it. L asks isn't that more suspicious? R now citing examples of how he kept his word... how keeping a confidence is important but again, he won't hold it against L... R now asking L not to say anything to M about this conversation... said M walked away from him today like a soap opera - saying how he told M "he forgave M" ... R confirming to L not to repeat their conversation... L agrees. R saying that G said to him "somebody's character has peaked" (meaning M) so R told M this because he felt closer to M... how M turned this around on R as having presented an opportunity for G to plot against M... R finds fault with M's logic... saying he should have been a jerk from the beginning. Now back on the D trashing again - she's playing them alll, she's so desperate to win, she's got M doing her dirty work, mentions J (nothing specific though) and how she brings in external factors into the game (feeds recycle) R wants L to tell J that D lied... cause he wants L or J to win. L reminds R that it's a game. R wants to influence who wins the game. Thinks that D is "pulling a Joshy" by not winning HOH. L said she hadn't heard that. R retreats a bit but then says he knows that D was "hammering J to put me up". (missed some) L is telling R that C never said anything bad about R to her. R saying that J told him something about C (his point wasn't that clear). L tells R she says in "confidence" that C lobbying to be voted out had nothing to do with who left that week. R says he loves all the stories that that floating around about the same event. J & A came outside and L says she's got to finish her workout and they get up and leave. Posting.

Aug 31 2002 01:23, Sat	jellmail	Forum: 083102 Post: 78935				Link
Roddy/Lisa Feed 3
Roddy to Lisa, "Dani keeps trumpeting her honesty thing but she's not being honest. She's playing this game better than anyone else. She's gotten Marcellas to do her dirty work. She's gotten Jason to change his mind. She's a really good woman, she's playing the game really well, I'm just amazed and how easy it is for her to do it. I'm telling you all this stuff and I'll probably mention things here or there to others but I won't tell them what I'm telling you. The only thing that's important to me is letting J know what's going on so he can know what she's doing and J can win the game. That'll make it all worth it because J should win because he's playing....well, you know." "I don't believe Dani hasn't been throwing the HOH. Pulling a Joshie." Lisa, "I haven't seen that." Roddy, "Well what I do know is she's been hammering J to put me up. Hammering him. Did she hammer Marcellas? You know she told you about the thing with me and Chiara so that you would be smooth with her and not smooth with me. What other reason would she have to tell you the truth about that? I know that J, after talking to those guys, almost changed his vote to vote me out." He's going on and on and explaining to her that he knows that Dani is behind doing her level best to get rid of him and knock him out of her way.

Aug 31 2002 01:29, Sat	RMU	Forum: 083102 Post: 78948				Link
J & A on the patio...
J tells A that he hates it when pple get up and leave just because they come outside. They're playing cards. A says she doesn't care, she's not going to cower. R comes back out - says he's going to take a shower, but there's people using the area now. R & A rehashing (to each other now) various issues about the game... for A "perception is realtiy" for R how at one time M had asked R to vote him out - that he wouldn't be lying if he said so... (my overall impression is that of a bit of a pity fest going on) L comes out and R gets up to help her do her weightlifting. posting.

Aug 31 2002 01:30, Sat	jellmail	Forum: 083102 Post: 78954				Link
Josh had inside track
Amy to Marcellas, " Josh said that while he was in the hotel waiting to come in here, he borrowed a guys cell phone and called his girlfriend. She had seen the promos and told him information about us to give him the edge."

Aug 31 2002 01:33, Sat	jellmail	Forum: 083102 Post: 78968				Link
Danielle to M & J ..... We gotta win the POV tomorrow, guys. I wonder.....
what they think her plan is when she tells them what "they" need to do. Do they think she's setting them up to, possibly, win? I simply don't understand why, if they're playing the game, they let her pull the strings. Is J hoping to end up at the end against D? Because, if he does, he's going to win for sure.

Aug 31 2002 01:45, Sat	ktan	Forum: 083102 Post: 78996				Link
Dani SITTING on kitchen island reading rules of new game (called Quoridor) with Marc (more)
A portion of the rules from the Gigamic website: [Object:] To reach first the line opposite to the starting line. Each player places his pawn at the centre of the starting line. Each player moves his pawn in turn or places one of his 10 fences. The pawns are moved one square at a time; one must go around the fences. The fences are meant to slow down your opponent's progress, but you cannot deny him all access to the finish line: you must always leave him one way out. (ed. This is the third game BB has brought in for the HGs from the French game company Gigamic) More info: http://www.gigamic.com/jeuxanglais/quoridore.htm

Aug 31 2002 02:02, Sat	Addicted1	Forum: 083102 Post: 79038				Link
Roddy telling Lisa she is his entertainment tonight NT

Aug 31 2002 04:00, Sat	Devareux	Forum: 083102 Post: 79160				Link
Lisa in hammock, Dani comes out to say goodnight..short convo
Very quick convo...Dani basically told Lisa that he (Roddy) got to her (in reference to Roddy & Dani's talk) . but she is still focused on her goal. Lisa said it's hard because he's a good person & you hate to see anyone go through what he's going through. Then she told Dani to remember her video. Dani then went in & told Marc goodnight. She also tells Marc that he (Roddy) got to me but don't worry cause I'm still good (something like that) and not to worry.

Aug 31 2002 04:01, Sat	Hardy4Me	Forum: 083102 Post: 79161				Link
HG's sitting around, Danielle asks if the DR ever asks them to speak in past tense.....FOTH bigtime NT

Aug 31 2002 04:39, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79173				Link
F1 R sounding upset, explains to L that he's confused
because when he nominated M, M told him he needed more reasons, and that he didn't discuss the game. R told him that he did discuss the game, and reminded him about his nomiation speech. N agrees after talking that he did give him reasons then R tells L that when M nom'd R, he said that he didn't trust him for many reasons. he says that implies without telling what that there are many reasons not to trust R. He also tells L that he's talked to M and M found out that everything M didn't trust him about was a misunderstanding on Ms part R thanks L for sitting and listening to him now they move on to exercise talk, and R aks her if she told Hihi that she likes a little tummy, and Li admits that yeah, she likes a little tummy. R says sorry R's favorite body part i legs, breast are ok, but he likes lower body stuff

Aug 31 2002 04:44, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79175				Link
R/L discussing laundry, R wonders if he should bother if he;s leaving thus, but asks Li if they should tackle it inam. Li: we need soap. R cheers NT

Aug 31 2002 04:45, Sat	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 083102 Post: 79176				Link
Jason and Dani whispering in the living room.
Dani and Jason are whispering in the living room. They are saying that Roddy is good. But then Jason is taking a look at Roddy and Lisa at the hammock. Jay says 'He's good.' Then pauses 'And He is gone this week. Oh did I say that?' He puts his hand over his mouth and looks side to side. Amy comes out to the living room and says she needs to an emergency diary room. Dani and Jay go to the Tiki room to chat. D: He knows how to work people. He is the devil. J: In this game no one stands a chance if he is here. He isn't the devil. But he is so good that he can even make you think his nomination is an injustice. And you say 'you know you're right Roddy. Marcellas didn't deserve to put you on the block. How can I help.' You think all these things. (Dani says she will get some water . She is talking to herself. She goes to the bathroom to get an aspirin. 'Cause he is watching me. I don't have a headache. But I don't want him to think I'm plotting') D: He is soooo good Jason. I have never come up on a guy like that in my life. I don't think you understand how good that man is. Jason: I do. Because week after week I've watched him work. You know. But I had no idea really how good he was until now. Had Josh not been in the house. We would have been gone sooner. Josh kept him distracted on damage control. Josh really helped us out without really knowing it. Josh spread a lot of disinformation. Roddy couldn't tell what was up or down. That is why Roddy had to get rid of Josh. He couldn't get a good picture of what was going on. Now Roddy is focused. Dani: He is so good. Jay: He is just good with people and he knows how to get what he wants with people. I don't think he is diabolical of evil he just knows how to work people. And he is using those skills in the house. Dani: He's diabolical! (they laugh) J: I like the guy a ton and I can't wait to hang out with him away from the house. But in this game...no one stands a chance if he's here. If he managed to survive this week. Dani:We're gone. Jay: The only reason he has power is because we let him... (They hear a noise from the cameramen and tell them to keep it down in there.) Dani: He has influence over others. Jason: Amy said 'everything will be different when I leave Thursday.' AMY CANNOT WIN the POV. If Roddy uses the veto we could probably convince Mar to put up Lisa. Roddy is gone. Jason: If the Veto is an elimination type game. We need to take out Amy, Roddy, Marcellas then Lisa. (Dani is worried that Roddy will use his devilish charm on Lisa.) Jay: I can't hang out with him, because he is so good at manipulation. If I put him up last week. He would probably still be here. Dani:I think of the Garden of eden and the snake. Just take one bite... Jay:If you get his word he is good on it. But the thing is he is not giving his word to you. Jay goes to take a peak out to the window. HE comes back. Jay says that Roddy looked right at him. Cam cuts to Lisa and Roddy on the hammock. Roddy going on that he wishes he could show one hour of video to prove that he was telling the truth. Lisa is criticizing her old boyfriend of two years. Saying he wanted to make it in hollywood based on his looks but wouldn't work hard to make it a reality. FOTH

Aug 31 2002 05:18, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79182				Link
F1: R/Li again, start discussing past relationshipts, then FOTH again! NT

Aug 31 2002 05:35, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79186				Link
F1 feeds back, R /Li drinking tea
discussing sleeping arrangements. if you sleep with someone, they are gone R I dodged a bullet on that on. there was a movement to get me kicked out, but no one moved on it. maybe M was saying it to get on my good side Li says using a teabag twice not a good idea R says he doesn't mind R now suggesting they eat the candy bars, Li wants the Crackle now both offering the other choice of candy Li says this is the most romantic thing you've done for a girl R asks if she heard the flower story from college R is going to tell the story, ince there's no way the gril is watching and???? FOTH

Aug 31 2002 05:50, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79189				Link
and they are back
R talkinga bout how he always comes to the rescue now talking about coaching kids hockey, and how that was a way to get good out in the world now he's talking about how "he" does not care about people. (assume he means M) Li breaks in and R explains he doesn't mean in here, but out in the world, where people not caring about people is a real problem asks Li what she was thinking about, Li can't come up with anything, and R say whatever it was I just ruined it by saying something now kinda looks like Li is signing omething, but can't see her hands so not sure, so post

Aug 31 2002 05:53, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79191				Link
Li is either signing or mouthing what she was thinking about when R asked
but not clear enough for me to tell which or what she's saying

Aug 31 2002 05:59, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79195				Link
feeds return, now R is working on A in the house
A if i hear perception is everyghing one more time i'm gonna hit someone R talking cheesecake to A, and how with all the cream cheese they could have made cheese cake A" i never thought of thaT! thank you for telling me this now R admits to Li that he just teased amy with the thought of cheesecaket

Aug 31 2002 06:01, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79196				Link
A telling R about the double DR meeting and threat to walk when R nom'd them
and how they called John in and he told them guys you don't want to do this...sound switched to a sleeper, so have to change feeds

Aug 31 2002 06:12, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79201				Link
A whispering now
she is so disgusted A: it makes me so mad, and plus i feel like women are put up to a double standard R says he's says he's sick of the game, and then the next day he's back on R talking bout M claiming he didn't give a good game reason when he made noms A says but you did R says yeah, but then M after lecturing him, just said that he put him up because of a bunch of stuff without talking about the game R so that's the thing he lectures me that if you put someone up you have to give a specific reason then he says he nom'd me for just a bunch of reasons A the only thing he said about my nom that is the truth is sometimes you let conv fly by and what was meant was we had this huge conversation last week and i got the same lecture and i wasn't really pissed off about it and i tried to explain my angle abou tit but he was frstrated tyring to get his point accross so i dropped it and it was all just petty HS bullshit R: well... long pausie R I wish it was HS bullshit, we would have 6 more years A I know... i mean its like so gossipy the table and to stand up and say i had a real bad night a couple of nights ago about it and i came clean a couple nights ago and said this is what i think and if you're gonna judge me and make accusation about me that's fine i don't care .... when i came back in the house for me the expeerience is more important to me and i don't wanna play if it s gonna be like that caue i don't like it A if i winn the veto I have to take you down..wouldn't that stir things up? R it really would! i wish A taht we would both make it A i know, so do i A i wonder who he's put up against me, he'd put up someone he thinks i could beat R you mean keep you? both: i want it so bad A if i get taken off he'd put D against you, he told me i was safe until i lost my ring then i got on his nerve and i was trying to say don't make a big deal aabout it, but he was such a baby, and i got on his nerves R i bet D would love to know that A that's what sucks, at this point it's so much gossip R at thie point, they are being bamboozled, in fact i don't think it's a terrible idea for him to put her up she never would have thought that... i don't know, i just know that perception is everything and the thing that has made her sceptical about things in the house is that she never thought in a million years it is possible that she is up R i want her to know (D) that this kid is screwing you over A it's a clash of the titans thing, that is how i secured his vote the first time R this is gonna be fun A i hat it so.

Aug 31 2002 06:15, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79203				Link
A talking aaabout double standards
and how she ha always been limited in who she is "allowed" to talk to and wonders why there's a limit from D on who she's allowed to talk to. D told her it doesn't matter what you talk about, it's all about what people think A says you know what, she souldn't think everyone was plotting all the time if you weren't plotting all the time

Aug 31 2002 06:16, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79205				Link
R: I don't wanna talk about the game any more tonite
A says you are the one who came in here

Aug 31 2002 06:21, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79210				Link
R decides to get an execution haircut on Monday
since there's not much to do on monday Li complained that R refered to her as the new HG. he had to stop that cause it really did put her in a strange spot. and how they found out about her old boyfriends and brothers R telling how he and Li talked for like 10 hours of the past few days and how they get accued of conspiring A says she doesn't assume a conspiracy cuase she doesn't think link that. do you think i'm a horrible person (To d) and d told her it's not about you, and A ssys it's obviously about me R asks if it's weird being up against me? A at least i don't ahve to vote against you. R why would you vote against me? A cause i owe a lot of favors and they would come after me. but no i wouldn't vote against you R i think we're the only two people who ever nominated each other and then are in an alliance with each other. it's amzing, you were even gone for 2 of those weeks R so how many weeks have you been here? A 6

Aug 31 2002 06:26, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79212				Link
F1 Li/M it's gonnaa be hard from now on
Li yeah, there's not gonna be an easy week. I hope with the people here tho that it could be easy cause like there's nothing to come out, there's no more conspiracy M i hope, but once this is done, i hate it, there's like, i mean, i asked him why you hanging out with Jo? and he said what i'm not supposed to hand out with him? it's the same with A, i'm like A why you hanging out with jo? M he's theone that's making it, he's the one that's turning it to something else, like with A D finds out that she's the one that's telling everything. and a is like no. but how is he knowing all the specifices how does he know everything. like he could fill in some of the blanks M D came to me saying your girls telling all our busniness she's telling everything, and he told D maybe she told G and G told him cuase he can't believe that A would look him in the face and lie to him. cause there's stuff Jo knew and i would ask A and she woudl say she didn't tell him Li did you tell R suspicious things? M no, never, that whole thing was a trap that i set for him that whole thing Li cause he said specifics that would soundl ike it came from you.

Aug 31 2002 06:32, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79213				Link
M discussing his noms
M I cited two reasons, One i caught you in a lie with G and the other thing was the whole Li/Ch thing, all of a sudden she turns on you when it didn't benefit her to keep E in the house, it benefited him M that whole G thing that conversation i remember, no, it's those two things, those things, i don't think i came up with a third. thosewere my two things, he shot hoels in them, but they are still valid. this is why i came to you after that. this is what i thinkthe G thing. he said his character is peeked, we gotta write him off. it's like Jo, who's the most negative person in the hosue. g is like what do you think about m? what do you think about m? and of course when you do things like that you gotta wonder what is M doing? is he talking bout me? and tha's the same thing he did with you Li i'm so happy bout myself for not falling for that thing M you gotta talk to Da. Li he had a conversation with D today M D came and said he got to me, don't worry, we're still the same M D is like, he told mei said i trusted him 100%, and she's like, no i didn't, and he's like yeah you did

Aug 31 2002 06:34, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79215				Link
M for weeks i felt like a pawn in this game
I was doing what D said, or reacting to what R/Ch did and not doing my own thing and i couldn't understand why D would always get soe=meone else to do things for her, she wouldn't do it herself zLi i'm thinking if D is the last one here, she wasnts to have a clean slate

Aug 31 2002 06:49, Sat	pinamenichelli	Forum: 083102 Post: 79220		Parent	Root	Link
M also said that when he sees D and J talking together he never
thinks they are talking about the game. When he see D and L talking, he never thinks they are talking about the game. But when he sees R talking with anyone he thinks they are talking about the game. It is all perception. Also M said, he had meant to put up R and D, but A losing ring during food comp, upset him and he decided to put her up.

Aug 31 2002 06:46, Sat	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 083102 Post: 79218				Link
M to L: Roddy is David f*cking Koresh!
Marc and Lisa are in the HoH room. M: He is a spinmaster and I'm tired of spinmasters. M says that Roddy said that he threw the HoH contest. M wonders... How? M says that Rod says that he didn't think M would nominate him. M says R should have tried harder. Lisa: That is crap. He told me he would try to get HoH. Marc: With him you WANT to believe what he is tells you. You want to believe. Lisa: Because he is hypnotising. He's captivating. Marc: He is David F*cking Koresh!! They continue to talk about Roddy's plotting to get Gerry to stay in the house.

Aug 31 2002 07:01, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79224				Link
R: I did NOT cry on television
A: yes you did R: I don't know what you mean, I did not cry on television (but he's grinning) R i gotta go in the DR and cancel the frolic A: the frolic R i got a 6:15 frolic wake up

Aug 31 2002 07:03, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79226				Link
A: i'm so bored, i'm so spent. i told ja feel free to let me go NT

Aug 31 2002 07:06, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79227				Link
R: it looks like it would be best if you got that thing tomorrow
A: i know R: cause at this point i know if i got it, then i'm gone, it's hard to pull the trigger on yourself A: i know R: can you imagine if that stupid f*cking game had something to do with this A: they asked me kn the DR, does anyone remember that? I don't know, but it's on tape, it's documented. r: can you imagine, like, of all the breaks on earch, you go out, you go to mexico, you come back, and the only deal that is kept (whispering, can't hear) R: somebody might wonder, cause we've had such great talks, she hasn't asked me, (can't hear) .. ja said to lisa i'm gonna do my best to get veto. A: i want it so bad, that would be so awesome! more whispering, so post

Aug 31 2002 07:09, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79229				Link
A: if i take you down, you have to vote for me to stay
r: that's the problem i have, if lisa goes up, but i won't lie to you r: i can only hope we can avoid that

Aug 31 2002 07:11, Sat	pinamenichelli	Forum: 083102 Post: 79231				Link
Lisa tells M how well he handled the whole gerry thing. She says that M
was so mature about Gerry, that she could never have handled it as well as M. She tells M that she lose it when she went into DR about Gerry.

Aug 31 2002 07:12, Sat	frustratedposter	Forum: 083102 Post: 79233				Link
R and A stressing over there being so few people
A I can't belive he put me up, i can't belive it R are you gonna stay in there with him? R goes to WC, says I drank so many cups of tea, good thing we're here, we should just talk over the bowl

Aug 31 2002 07:15, Sat	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 083102 Post: 79237				Link
Roddy is encouraging Amy to use the POV, They both want to take Marcellas down.
Amy says she is bored. Roddy:Imagine if you come back to take down his(Marcellas) empire. They are talking about the POV. They think if it is an elimination game. Roddy says don't eliminate Lisa. Roddy says Jay and Dani are in bed together with Marcellas. Roddy: I'm going my best to get Marcellas, then Jay and Dani. He is going to do everything to get Marcellas out of it. Roddy says the POV is never a complicated game. Amy I hope it is a chance thing. Like when the auctioned boxes. Roddy: That would be amazing. That would make for good TV. Roddy says 'CBS if you hear this ask questions about cheese.' Amy says 'if I win it and I take you off the block. Then you have to vote for me to stay.' Roddy: If it is the other two(Jay and Dani) I'll do it. But I would not against Lisa. Roddy: Let me think about it. Amy says she'll try to get Marcellas to put up Jay or Dani if she uses the POV.

Aug 31 2002 07:42, Sat	angel	Forum: 083102 Post: 79264				Link
Amy now in HOH with M. She has now turned on R too. Telling M about her conversation with R
A is pissed that R wouldn't save her if M puts up A & L. She is angry about that and doesn't trust him at all anymore. L was in there earlier with M telling him everything R told her. R is all alone and looks like the entire house is against him now. <that's sad>

Aug 31 2002 07:52, Sat	angel	Forum: 083102 Post: 79267				Link
M told A that D deserves the $ because she figured out R from the beginning. She's smarter than him and deserves the $. NT

Aug 31 2002 07:56, Sat	RichTheSnitch	Forum: 083102 Post: 79268				Link
Marc and Amy: Roddy is a Psychology major
Marc and Amy are in the HoH. I came in on the middle of the conversation. But there is a realization of Roddy and his mind games. They are talking that Chiara never had a chance. She was toast. He probably played on the fact that Chiara's parents divorced early and that she was sexually active at an early age. And was recently in an abusive relationship. Amy:Unf*ckingbelievable. A f*cking mastermind. He needs to leave on Thursday. He honestly doesn't think that he will. Marc: We didn't have a deal. I don't make a deal with the devil. I'm not a deal boy. Amy: He is going to stay on Lisa like white on rice. Marcellas: Dani says Roddy when he auditioned. He went to each one of the executives and told each one their life story just by looking at them. He has all our numbers. We are some f*cking sick experiment to him. I have to give it to that b*tch(Dani). Either she is psychic or really does have god on her side. But she had his number. Amy: She is smarter than he is. It is not book learned but it is street smarts. Marc: Isn't it amazing and the sky opens up and you see things clearly. Chiara did not have a chance. F*ck. Imagine if he really turned it on and made you think that he loved you in that way. Lisa reminded me that Roddy was a phychology major. Amy: Roddy isn't that smart. He could have lied to my and said that he would vote for me over Lisa. Instead he exposed himself. He should have kept on playing it. He didn't need me for a vote from me. Mother f*ckier. It pisses me off when someone plays on my weaknesses. Oh My God!! I'm going to get him back in the diary room.

Aug 31 2002 07:57, Sat	Rib_Of_His_Crib	Forum: 083102 Post: 79269				Link
Right before M/A decided to go to sleep, Marci "did a Jordan" and had an epiphany, only he calls it a moment of clarity....
Remembers that Roddy is a psych major and that's how he's able to manipulate the others. Amy still upset that she's been played. Marci also thinks that Dani is either psychic or she really does have a connection with God b/c she saw Roddy for what he was all along. Made a statement that they should just give Dani the $$. I guess he's convinced that she's earned it being as she and God are in charge of the game.

Aug 31 2002 10:24, Sat	Lola	Forum: 083102 Post: 79357				Link
Quad Cam: All sleeping F1 A & M in HOH bed ;F2 4077;F3 Tiki;F4 Beautiful blue moring sky, partly cloudly above back yard NT

Aug 31 2002 11:46, Sat	Lola	Forum: 083102 Post: 79419				Link
D in kitchen, someone in shower (R I think) NT

Aug 31 2002 11:47, Sat	DLT	Forum: 083102 Post: 79422				Link
bb announces a lockdown; a&m hoh f1; 4077 f2; r in shower f3; dani in kitchen f4 NT

Aug 31 2002 11:52, Sat	Lola	Forum: 083102 Post: 79425				Link
D & R in kitchen, D making coffee, R standing around NT

Aug 31 2002 12:12, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79440				Link
R says just b/c i look like a doctor doesnt mean i perform surgery NT

Aug 31 2002 12:13, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79441				Link
R worried that he is being portrayed as a sucker on national tv NT

Aug 31 2002 12:15, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79444				Link
R confirmed to D that him an M had a deal>>>
he said that when u see the tapes youll see he gave me his word, so i threw hoh cause i never thought he wld put me up

Aug 31 2002 12:25, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79451				Link
R tells D that since M broke his word he has no obligation to him now NT

Aug 31 2002 12:27, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79454				Link
R tells D that we have been here 57 days and we have never had this moment>>
meaning being up at same time alone and talking (R doesnt realize that everything he has told D she already knows) D responds i know.. R says weird (about being up at same time an alone)

Aug 31 2002 12:30, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79458				Link
R says im not a bible literalist, but im christian and just b/c i dont go to church >>
doesnt mean im not a good person(not quoted exactly) d says im not going to judge you.. R now telling story about church

Aug 31 2002 12:32, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79466				Link
D now talking God.. D says as long as i keep my eyes on faith>>
and not the prize im ok..

Aug 31 2002 12:34, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79471				Link
R now talks about J saying grace the first night.. he said he almost fell to the floor
he couldnt believe seeing someone so genuine an such a good person and now R says to D dont think that that (meaning christianity ways i believe) doesnt go unappreciated

Aug 31 2002 12:36, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79477				Link
R/D still the only ones up making coffee R goes to LR D goes to Bathroom NT

Aug 31 2002 12:37, Sat	KAD	Forum: 083102 Post: 79480				Link
Roddy working Danielle first thing in the mourning
Missed the first little bit as these two began. Rod was talking when I heard the rest Dan: Did Marc give you his word he wouldn’t nominate you. Roddy: Yeah he did. Roddy: Marc came to me with a deal, before anybody else. First chance he got. Before the competition he said you better get HOH. Please don’t repeat this to anybody, nobody needs to know what I’m saying. Dan: I won’t you have my word. Roddy: Why would he egg me on to get HOH if he wasn’t going to hold up his end of the deal. Amy got the same deal that Chaira gave me. Chiara said don’t talk to Amy she’s out to get you. Now Amy gets the same deal. The one thing that I’m aware of is that they are going to see the question asked and answered in the DR. For him to say you have to get HOH. Why on earth did he want me to do his dirty work. He wanted to use me to do his dirty work. He wanted a free week. I have a tendency to be to trusting. Chiara said trust Danny. Yeah, he promised me. He wanted us to get there. I’m scared out of my F****** mind thinking about what he’s saying about me. Worrying about what he’s telling people about me. As I’m sure you are and Amy is as well. If I’m around Danny, you’re not going anywhere. Dan: You said it, I’m going to hold you to it. I didn’t sleep well last night. Roddy: No. There is a lot to think about. That’s the thing I trust J to death. All night last night I thought about how I’ve been put to sleep saying we can’t talk about the jackals and the vipers. He gave no reason when he put me up. He said a made up thing that made me out to conspire against others. If he told me something else or I’ve did something. He gave no reason at all. And I’m telling you he lecture the [censored] out of me. He said HOH was to powerful, HOH was manipulating people. It is no accident, I asked him specific questions. He said in HT I was so smart, your going to HOH. He used that same conversation with everybody else. Dan: Yep he did Roddy: Good thing all the information is old now. All these people are gone done. To say to somebody everything is clear now with you with me. It makes me feel nauseous. Dan: Yep it is. The whole anti-Roddy thing. Roddy: Yep it’s no accident. You can’t go and promise this and that and not follow through on it. Dan goes to pee and get her glasses. BB: Your microphones need new batteries. Roddy: I’m so phobic, I feel miserable that I’m telling you this now. I feel like I’m doing something I’m going to regret. Dan: Don’t worry I’m not going to say anything. Roddy: I know you won’t I trust you. Roddy: One other thing this has to stay between us. I’ve heard that if it wasn’t me it was going to be - guess who - was going up. Dan: Me. I hear a lot of things. He did say about “putting up the biggest threat”. He said who’s your biggest threat. He asked me are you stretched to thin. Roddy: If things get back to him. Amy said, He said You and I where the Clash of the Titans. Roddy: He’s getting the storm brewing, he’s doing like Josh. I have nothing to hide. He said I couldn’t talk to Gerry, Josh and at one point Chiara. Think about how hard it was for me not to tell you that last night. It’s over. From one angle he had everything covered. Dan: Genius Roddy: One of things I thought about last night was I can’t tell Danny from home about people lying. Once it’s over it’s over. Then I realize here I can’t. I can’t wait till I get home. I have to play the hand that’s dealt. I’ve struggled with it all last night. I gave my word, he broke his. I don’t have to keep my word no longer. Even if I go home Thursday I want you know. Dan: I don’t know what’s going to happen Roddy. But I give you my word. Roddy: I admire you not just here but as a person. Dan: Thank you Roddy, you’re a good man. Roddy: I might have to save you the sound bite on this one. Dan: I said it in the DR and she can watch the tape. Roddy: It’s like talking about Tonya out on the court. Dan: My eyebrows go up went up. A person characters are however they act outside this house is how I judge them inside. Roddy: I’m not a bible literalist(?). But I think you can tell I’m a Christian believer. And god influences us here. I don’t go church all the time. Dan: You don’t have to be a mouse if you’re in the cookie jar.(?) Let me tell you what my dad use to say was that some of the worst people on earth are some of the people sitting in church.

Aug 31 2002 12:41, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79491				Link
D an R both in Bathroom area D getting ready R sitting in chair just chit chatting NT

Aug 31 2002 12:50, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79505				Link
D saying she hurts for A.. when M put up his 'friend' that hurts NT

Aug 31 2002 13:03, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79528				Link
foth then feeds come back and R talks about Josh being a salesman and
scamming ppl... and why wldnt he do it in there.. R says he caught on to Josh.. then foth.. feed back and D talking about going to doctor and lumps/bumps (in breasts im guessing) and her questioning dr. and getting xrays etc.. dr tells her its calcium deposit but shes still skeptical

Aug 31 2002 13:11, Sat	KAD	Forum: 083102 Post: 79550				Link
More with Dan and Rod
Dan: If it where me and somebody was accusing me of things I didn’t do. I would have went off. I’d be like let’s talk. I’d have to let them have it. I would have went off. You need to say lets talk one on one. Tell him to be a man. If your going to accuse me of these things let me have it. Roddy: You know what I’ve been thinking about. With you winning AC and Amy going and coming back. Any information from the outside world could be influential to the game. Dan: I was thinking about the reference to the book in the letter. Roddy: It could be about a conversation somebody had about the horse. Roddy: Amy said she was happy to be here if she got voted out it didn’t matter. Why would she make up about guy on the beach saying watch out for Gerry. NO KIDING We Have FOH Roddy: How can you tell people they can sell people anything. Dan: Absolutely, if you can hurt somebody’s feelings to get ahead. If you can do it out there what’s going to stop you in here. I mean if you’re hungry you’ll do anything. Roddy says something about cast party and then FOH again.

Aug 31 2002 13:19, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79563				Link
R/D still talking in bathroom area
camera zooms in on R's bald spot ... r/d talking about life outside and r says i just hope my brothers tv is broke at home.. D goes back to talking about dr sessions.. and kiki may hate her guts but she was telling it like it is.. and talkin about kikis relationships.. and always having a boyfriend and not loving herself R just listening D says about enjoying yourself/ loving yourself an she tells that to her daughters all the time talks about paxton(daughter) going to europe R talks about believing in himself D says if you want to go (paxton) ill give my life savings to send you (to europe) R now talks about josh saying if i dont win i want u (r) to win and said kiki told him if R didnt win i want D to win R talks about being influenced... FOTH

Aug 31 2002 13:23, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79570				Link
feeds back to D/R in Bathroom D says to R your a good man & that mans marriage material the foth again NT

Aug 31 2002 13:25, Sat	Lola	Forum: 083102 Post: 79576				Link
M is up, D says "Good morning, sunshine" D & R keep talking NT

Aug 31 2002 13:32, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79585				Link
feeds back . D talking about sittng down an talking to ppl and hearing their life story then M comes in "good morning"
M getting ready for shower.. and r/d still talking, sitting in chairs R says he pushes the girls he dates to be honest .. says it directly D talks about her best friend and being on different levels.. her friend told her she always follows the crowd and D doesnt R says about timeline and saying "i love u" after a few months and being pressured.. he says it ruins the romance he doesnt like to just do it(say it) R is doing it not to be a jerk.. bdays holidays .. (talking about giving presents) he says he does b/c he wants to do not b/c friends are gossiping and ridiculing.. D talks about husband an friend.. saying if he cares about you he bought you this.. dont say its tacky (meaning present)

Aug 31 2002 13:34, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79592				Link
D asking M how he slept he said good once i got to sleep.. d/r continue to talk and marc gets in shower NT

Aug 31 2002 13:42, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79602				Link
M in shower .. R/D still talking about friends/family NT

Aug 31 2002 13:51, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79610				Link
M out of shower now walking back to hoh.. r/d still talking NT

Aug 31 2002 13:55, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79619				Link
R asks D if her work is going to be mad at her D says i dont know if i have a job (didnt catch it all sorry) NT

Aug 31 2002 14:03, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79638				Link
D talking about telling her boss about BB and she might be back in 2 wks 2 mos. etc and >
ill understand if u have to replace me (her boss) and says she didnt get any sleep and got a call (dont know from who, friend maybe) and asking her if she was ok.. and she said she cldnt talk about it.. but bringing up BB in general "yeah BB is coming on" R talks about interview w/ BB then foth

Aug 31 2002 14:05, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79641				Link
feeds back an M talking about pants and someone telling him something was wrong with them
and he says no their isnt.. and he checks his pants and says oh yeah there is something wrong (feed reloaded)

Aug 31 2002 14:11, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79649				Link
D yells "is anybody up yet?" then says shes going to put her jewelry on R walks to br and d is in there talking about shes fine
R goes to dr i believe and d in bedroom talking to lisa about shes fine an jay asks if john woke us up.. lisa talks about a dream.. and its going to be ok... lisa getting up now.. jay still in bed dani goes back to kitchen area marc comes out of hoh lisa goes to storage room to get battery

Aug 31 2002 14:19, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79656				Link
d/a in hoh room talking
a says about getting veto bb says amy pls put on microphone amy proceeds to talk .. marc walks in a im telling d marcellas (about roddy) roddy called to dr whispering hard to hear a says you know i cldnt take u down w/o having ur vote (meaning r) amy says that r said the only prob. i have w/ that is if m puts up l and amy says i need your word that u wld save me and she said r said that i cant do that.. talking about him playing her and working her a he worked me so f*ing hard... m: amy comes in and she thinks she has lisas vote and says hes working everybody m says r is physcology major BB: marc pls put on your microphone A: this is good conversation

Aug 31 2002 14:26, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79679				Link
a/m/d in hoh
m talking about roddy and saying stuff he didnt mean(meaning roddy) marc starts doing pushups? amy talking about roddy lisa and marc interupts saying roddy is playing them all.. d hugs m.. amy laughs about m's statement D: r said he got played and she says yes he did A he played me like a violin marc back to pushups A says he came out on her too soon and thats F*ing pathetic to play on someones weakness and the whole conspriacy thing its cruel A says marc gets so frustrated at me(she said it in dr) and i dont understand it M last night was so good (with r) D says hes good M quotes D saying hes good.. "im ok but hes good, but im ok" D says he tries to take ppl down M says he tells ppl we had a deal and m says no we had a deal for a week and he can go around telling ppl but no.. hes just like gerry.. and there are no deals unless two ppl agree.. and there was no deal A says R played kiki like a violin.. telling how he said we are b/f g/f then he knocked it down to just friends FOTH

Aug 31 2002 14:32, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79699				Link
feeds back to a/m/d
talking about r getting rid of josh A- if he was smart he wld have played me a few more days and he wld have had me amy says shes going to dr M/D whispering hard to hear M says i gave her specific incidences (meaning a) realize every convo u have w/ him is a plan dont be around him unless u have to(talking about a) D says you are soooo good (talking about r) m says hes sooo good also M telling d about r saying hes(m) is jackal d says again he is sooo good... satan.. lucifer was most beautiful angel ppl caught up in his beauty and he took 1/3 of angels w/ him.. and thats why she calls him the devil.. m: says he makes u feel so good about urself and drops pity part you fall into.. d: says about r let me see ur eyes.. etc.. hes so good again M: he so plays into emotion.. marc said he got to point where he made his decision that he was worst person in house and whethere he likes it or not he is the person that needs to go.. this was the will of the house BB calls amy to dr.. marc says and thats why he feels betrayed.. and m says r said that ro wldnt have thrown hoh if he knew m was going to nom him. M says you dont leave [censored] to chance.. dont sit here an [censored] on my accomplishment.. be a man.. you went about it the wrong way.

Aug 31 2002 14:41, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79726				Link
d/m still in hoh
talking about roddy listening to what he says.. one week hes hoh and next week kiki is hoh.. d says she told r that hes going to come after her.. she said r said he campaigned against her cause he was afraid of her D says about being a chess game... and u have to take pieces out M says taking aways his pwer structure and he has to go.. d says that j said hes so good(rod) whispering cant hear M says he relanguages things (r) and you dont know.. and talking about thats not playing the game.. talking about j in dr.. being so nice about ppl or r.. cldnt quite catch it M; says history... toast.. so i think he was talking about r in dr D says last night was unbelievable hand motion to chattting m says r said why dont u trust me.. m says look at that pic (pointing to family pict) you dont see no man there, i have trust issues.. m says i know charming ppl.. like serial killers.. charm is a verb so when someone is actually charming you they are working you.. if someone is standing there charming you they are trying to get u to think emotionally not reasonably and thats what he does (r) M hes david F*ing koresh d hes charismatic M says i htink everybody sees it talking about l saying ros a phsycology major.. and it clicked to m.. he talks about kiki an eric an josh.. boom boom boom m says he works on their physcy M says hes got to go

Aug 31 2002 14:52, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79762				Link
STILL d/m in HOH :marc "why didnt i fall hook line an sinker"
marc says he makes you think he likes you (r) and hes like you D said that jay said that he sees things now.. about how r was w/ josh and kiki M: says that r is different now w/o kiki .. yeah hes different doing .. frolics .... d/m continue to discuss ro and plotting.. D once again says .. hes sooo good over an over M says hes amazing.. and i dont know why i didnt fall hook line an sinker.. sympathetic intelligent.. and he knew the night in HT he was pulling me in.. and let me not try an save amy.. we have to make sure lisa sees it an jay sees it we have to get at least two votes D says j sees it M says even if amy goes next week.. we have to get the votes.. even if what he says is true.. his manipulation still gets him out.. talking about m/r at bathroom when he went to take a shower he automatically thought that ro was plotting he doesnt feel that way about anybody else in the house but r.. marc says hes the only one in there that has the balls to nom roddy (feed reloaded) M: sys ro is smart.. there is no reason he should have thought that he wouldnt have nom'd him. (r) .. m says its hard .. this is one hoh i didnt want but u cant leave sh*t to chance.. d says he underestimated... u cant underestimate anybody.. if u do for one sec. ur gone.. M says he underestimated amy.. this must be what its like to have a child.. you just want to grab them by the ears D says im gonna go pee.. they leave the hoh

Aug 31 2002 14:53, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79765				Link
m/a/r in kitchen now.. dani in bedroom / lisa in kitchen now dont see J NT

Aug 31 2002 14:53, Sat	KAD	Forum: 083102 Post: 79768				Link
Marc: He has to go this week
Marc: I don’t care if Amy goes next week or the week after. I don’t care if I go next week or the week after. He has to go this week. I told him to his face he’s the only person in the house that we are suspicious about. I told them in DR last night. I was the only one with the balls in the house to put him up. Everybody else has put him up so the other person goes. Dan: I said Marc has the balls (clapping hands) Marc: He didn’t have my word. There is no reason in the word he wouldn’t have thought I would have nominated. He told Amy he thought I would nominate him. Or that he new I would nominate him. If he truly thought that in his head then he made a mistake. Dan: I told him there are a few people in the house that he’s underestimated. Marc: I underestimated her. (Amy) I never thought she would get back in the house. She must be what it’s like to have a child. They go to have breakfast

Aug 31 2002 14:56, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79777				Link
L asks A "whats going on w/ you" and amy responds
sometimes you just wake up... sometimes u just wake up roddy kind of stares then asks amy if she slept last night A says she had dream... about something really good and then just woke up and it kinda smacks u in the face (i hear insinuation in her voice)

Aug 31 2002 15:00, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79792				Link
R says A somethings on that mind of yours
amy says i have to go to dr.. then she says i have to go take a shower an get ready for veto... R sits an eats a banana by himself M walks to table an eats an apple talking about showering amy/j/l in bathroom getting ready

Aug 31 2002 15:04, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79799				Link
M now sitting at bar playing cards/ L/J/R in bathroom amy in shower NT

Aug 31 2002 15:14, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79819				Link
J/L/D/R in bathroom area .. general chit chat M still playing cards.. A in bathroom also NT

Aug 31 2002 15:16, Sat	ktan	Forum: 083102 Post: 79824				Link
F1: In the backyard, there was a vein display with 00 lit up before FOTH. Now in bathroom. NT

Aug 31 2002 15:44, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79857				Link
all feeds still FOTH for last 30min. must be veto time NT

Aug 31 2002 16:19, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 79963				Link
FOTH still ....about an hour now NT

Aug 31 2002 16:38, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80001				Link
approaching 1.5 hr and still FOTH NT

Aug 31 2002 16:45, Sat	BettyRubble	Forum: 083102 Post: 80006				Link
Amy wins POV! NT

Aug 31 2002 16:45, Sat	Lunchbox	Forum: 083102 Post: 80009				Link
POV on AMY's pic.NT

Aug 31 2002 16:45, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80011				Link
feeds back... hgs in kitchen NT

Aug 31 2002 16:45, Sat	cruzer	Forum: 083102 Post: 80012				Link
AMy got POV NT

Aug 31 2002 16:46, Sat	M3gabyt3	Forum: 083102 Post: 80015				Link
Camera scans up from VETO hanging under AMY's photo on wall. NT

Aug 31 2002 16:49, Sat	REA	Forum: 083102 Post: 80022				Link
DL&J
Talking in hallway: She's got to realize she will go if she uses it. They're whispering and hard to hear. J says we can work her. I can't believe she'd just give up this game.

Aug 31 2002 16:50, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80023				Link
d/l whisper in kitchen j comes in whispers too veto revealed
talking about veto and if amy uses it : ie amy won veto sounds like

Aug 31 2002 16:53, Sat	REA	Forum: 083102 Post: 80035				Link
A & Veto
D thinks she'll use it. J says he'll try to give him her word that she won't use it. It's guaranteed that A goes if she uses it and R better not ask her to do that for him. D praying: please God don't let her use that POV

Aug 31 2002 16:53, Sat	BettyRubble	Forum: 083102 Post: 80036				Link
Dani believes that Amy will use the veto NT

Aug 31 2002 16:53, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80037				Link
jay says if she uses it she goes out the door an is wrong of ro to ask that >>
jay says he cld never to that to someone.. knowing that that person wld be out the door.. its unbelievable jay says and he doesnt want to talk about it anymore d prays to god not to let her use pov.. please please please she says jay uses bathroom washes hands and isnt saying anything else dani sits in chair in bathroom just staring

Aug 31 2002 16:54, Sat	DC1	Forum: 083102 Post: 80038				Link
Dani prays to ~God~ "please Lord, don't let her use that veto, please, please, please. Please God don't let her use it" (unbelieveable) NT

Aug 31 2002 16:56, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80043				Link
jay says hes going to find out if roddy is going to ask her(a) to use it
dani still staring... see lisa in background in kitchen.. no one is saying anything at this point no feeds of r/m/a

Aug 31 2002 16:56, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 083102 Post: 80046				Link
Jason, Lisa and Dani have a hurried conference about Amy. It starts in the kitchen and moves into the bath.
Heavy whispering and I couldn't get much. "Does Amy remember that . . . " "It's a very weird" They are concerned and have to remind her of something. Lisa leaves. Jason whispering about putting some pressure on her. "If she uses it, she's gone." "If she betrays us." Lisa comes back to whisper about something Amy saw last night. Lisa brings up that Amy doesn't want to be here anymore because of what Marc said about her. Jason saying that Roddy can't even ask her to do it knowing that it means she is out the door. Lisa and Ja leave, Dani remains in the green chair. Dani is alone and she prays to God that Amy not use the veto, "Please, God. Please, please, please."

Aug 31 2002 16:57, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80049				Link
d/l now talking L says amy was scaring me this morning D says the only ppl i trust are you an him (points to L an J) NT

Aug 31 2002 16:58, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 083102 Post: 80053				Link
Lisa feels sick about the POV. Dani tells her, "You should. I'm not going to BS you" NT

Aug 31 2002 17:02, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80057				Link
L says R is reminding her of Josh an his sleeping habits >>>
L says R is clever an learned from Joshs mistakes lisa fixes her hair.. D again talks about lucifer being the most beautiful angel in heaven.. how clever.. how diabolical cld he have been to have taken 1/3 of angels with him.. to go against God.. lisa drying her hair.. no talk

Aug 31 2002 17:05, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80068				Link
L says "that F***ers got to go.. she is getting stirred up at why wld single her out
meaning from the convo last night w/ amy.. about r saying amy wld have his vote unless m put L up lisa asks if M gave his word to R and dani says just for that one week back to hair drying

Aug 31 2002 17:08, Sat	Phantom	Forum: 083102 Post: 80076				Link
Dani just told Lisa about Amy's talk with Roddy and that he wouldn't commit to vote for Amy if she vetoed him, because he couldn't vote against Lisa.
Lisa appears to be upset. Why would he single out? It makes it look like we have a special relationship. (I don't know if she is faking it, but she seems sincere to Dani. Doesn't she see that Roddy made a huge commitment to her?)

Aug 31 2002 17:08, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80079				Link
L/D whispering again....
L talking about cpls thing and R saying if eric is gone an kiki is gone.. he told lisa that they never verbalize anything never finalize.. L says that R said that you dont trust me.. and lisa realizes that R was looking for a "word" and how hes playing amy and lisa says she cant worry about it D says one step at a time L says hes so F***ing sneaky.. hes very talented and she gives him a lot of crdit D claps... yep more hair drying

Aug 31 2002 17:13, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80088				Link
L says if R stays in the house shes leaving
D says he listen L says i got your back you got my back ((((more hair drying)))) D says i was right.. remember M .. i was right ?? didnt hear what L said ((( and yet more hair drying))) R comes in bathroom.. d says i thought you were going to sleep R says yeah and goes in bathroom amy coming up to bathroom.. dani congratulates her A says whats up where is everybody she says D says oh my goodness oh my goodness oh my goodness and talks about weather

Aug 31 2002 17:14, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80092				Link
A says to D you want to talk in HOH.. D says yeah lets wait just a minute NT

Aug 31 2002 17:19, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80103				Link
M/A/D in HOH .... A: he thinks hes soooo good!
A he thinks hes sooo good.. says shes gonna reveal him now and shes not going to use the veto... for gerry.. for josh.. and especially not using it for KIKI D congratulates her... A says if R comes to her and says im going to vote for u 2 stay.. she said shes going to tell him nope im not going to use it refers to herself being played like a violin again

Aug 31 2002 17:20, Sat	ScarlettAngel	Forum: 083102 Post: 80105				Link
A just gave her "word" that she wouldn't use POV to D/M NT

Aug 31 2002 17:23, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80109				Link
A says "i think i have the upper hand now" >>>
A says she knew she was going to win.. when she saw what was out there (outside) D says if her mom saw that she wld say u dont have a chance in hell A says that once she trust someone they can do no wrong unless they do something.. then if they break the trust.. thats it.. she said when she found out about R.. she was asked if she felt betrayed and said she felt bad and felt bad for kiki.. and she wants to right her a letter/email.. and apologize she didnt realize what roddy did... and says r played josh too M says he never wld have thought he wld have sympathy for josh A says thats the thing when he was hoh (r) that they wld have never thought that rod wld have campaigned against Jo D says really this guy (referring to M) has opened my eyes M says hes charming... diabolical.. they all continue to rag on R and refer to him as devil

Aug 31 2002 17:31, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80123				Link
A says "he knew how much baggage i was carrying, he knew how much baggage kiki was carrying">>>
D says hes gone A agrees M says he would have to put J on the block if amy used veto and he thinks jay wld go.. casue ro wld vote him an says L doesnt really trust him ... and he wld cry (if j went) M says its just anger.. an makes him crazy A says u finally just wake up.. shes very happy M says intelluctally he (R) had to know he wasnt captured by them and talking about R was going around consoling/touching ppl asking if they were ok.. A says i wont both of u to know that im going to play this off (to R) she says im goin to play this out M leaves hoh A says im gonna make him think it.. that she will save him D tells a story in relation to roddy about a king an queen (cldnt get it all) A laughs

Aug 31 2002 17:33, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80128				Link
L asks if she should go talk to A .. M says definitely if you want too NT

Aug 31 2002 17:41, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80145				Link
L enters HOH...
they welcome her an laugh A says she saw some horns last night (R) she says that R told her that you know what (M) is doing A says she doesnt understand (to r lastnight) she talks about him asking her to use veto.. reiterates everything to L thats she already told D/M L says he wasnt even trying to hide those horns (R) amy talks about the victims (gerry josh an kiki) of roddy and again how she feels sorry for kiki A says just wait! he has played on so many ppls weakness says she has never been played so hard he tried everything he possibly cld.. talks about watching tapes.. and being played like violin.. A says he showed her all his colors last night L talks about telling R he is an amazing man an to just drop the game.. enjoy yourself.. before you drop/blow everything.. comparing him to josh Lisa says she was sitting at table w/ r this a.m. and he told her she really hurt his feelings... about her hanging out w/ someone.. the famous quote "perception is everything" again.. A said her mind is made up L says he can kiss my ass an think what he wants to think they all laugh an say welcome to the game A says better late than never D says (again) hes good hes really gooood he plays on things.. marc comes back in hoh M says hes going to take a walk outside since lockdown is over

Aug 31 2002 17:52, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80165				Link
A says "I am astounded at the things he said to me!"
meaning R and says again how hard he was working her.. he underestimated me.. he completely underestimated.. and says again how for once she has the upper hand A says she saved his ass (r) when he was on the block w/ kiki D says that she told R she was scared of him.. thats shes afraid you will come after me A says that he is going to try to hit D ( i believe) up and try to play her... and tell her things D says alot of things i already know A says he thinks we are all stupid L says R told her she was a lil devil an L told him .. am i? an giggles she says its coming back to bite him A says r said at least now i dont have to vote against you.. an amy said she asked him "oh u were gonna vote against me?" haha D reiterates R is the devil and does a horn gesture an satan face she said she doesnt even call him R anymore she jsut says the devil said this the devil said that.. tells lucifer ((once more!!))) story they all laugh an clap.. D says hes the devil ya'll think im koo koo for coco puffs but hes the devil A says hes so good but he lost his composure last night.. why wld he tell someone that if i took u off the block .."ill get back to you" how stupid amy says (referring to when R told A that he wasnt sure he wldnt vote amy out if L was put up) A says his sense of humor is very dark D says you cant be a jerk unless you really are a jerk cant be a dick unless you really are a dick

Aug 31 2002 17:52, Sat	KAD	Forum: 083102 Post: 80167				Link
After Amy win POV -talk in HOH room
A/M/D in HOH Amy: I felt angry and I felt empowered. I feel bad for Chiara, what he said about her. She left that blanket here. She’s had that thing since she was a baby. I want to call her when I get out of here. She may have every right to hang up on me but I want to call her. Or I’ll write her a letter and tell her. Amy: I told them in DR He would have voted Dan out, he new she was smarter then him. Marc: Pathological liar. Amy: I told them He tried to work Danielle. Dan: He did try, he worked me good. Marc: He believes that you can play on a women’s emotion. Amy: He prayed on my weakness. Marc: I didn’t come here to be F***** with on an emotional level. Punch me in the face if you want. But don’t play with my emotions. I have enough baggage to begin with. Marc: I don’t know why he didn’t take Dan on himself. Amy: He’s working Lisa so hard. Dan: I want him gone. Marc: I think he have Lisa vote. I was afraid Lisa would get POV and I would have to put Jason up and he would still be here. Dan: Do what ever you got to do I understand. Marc: It was the way it was going to be. Whoever got HOH he was going up. Marc: He’s doing to you what he did to me. Camera goes to Marc talking to Lisa in the Dining Room. Marc: I just want to tell you I wouldn’t put you up. I would put Jason up. My intention was to get rid of Amy. If I would put Jason up Lisa goes to HOH Lisa: I want to pull a Chiara and ask you if I’ve done anything to you. Amy: Absolutely not. I talked with Roddy last night and I seen the horns. It hit me like a ton of bricks last night. When he asked me about the veto, and I said what would you do if I took you off the block. I asked him if he would vote to keep me if I took him off. He said I’ll have to get back to you on that. I feel like I owe Chiara a big apology. He played Josh and Gerry like a fiddle. Chiara was his biggest one he played on. I’ve never in my life. He played on ever weakness I have. If he was as smart as we think he is, he wouldn’t have showed me all his colors last night.

Aug 31 2002 18:11, Sat	KAD	Forum: 083102 Post: 80197				Link
Dan/LIsa/Amy talk in HOH how Amy won't be using POV
Jason : (describing his kiss with Chiara when she left) It was like a bad half kiss. Now talking about what would happen if they brought Chiara in to give Jason a massage. Jason: She would be like hey can you rub my feet for the rest of the time I’m in here. Amy: He told me last night (Roddy) that Marc was jealous. He tried to get me disqualified when I came back to the house. Lisa telling something but she sounds like the people in the background of a Charlie Brown episode. Jason comes back talks more about the episode on bb1 that they brought somebody back for a message. Amy: Dan would be like we voted you back in girl your going to do what we say. Amy: I told Marc last night I saw it marc, I saw it. It hit me like a ton of bricks. And Marc said it’s about time.

Aug 31 2002 18:13, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80200				Link
L/A/D still in HOH room discussing R NT

Aug 31 2002 18:35, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80247				Link
A/L in kitchen talking about general stuff.. then L says to A im surprised you tried so hard (veto) short>>
A says i REALLY wanted it then they go back to talking about family an their past amy making a cheese quesadilla looks like and lisa too A says im all about cooking cheese at home and says about friend who ate all her cheese and brought her back american cheese wrapped in plastic... no she says thats not cheese

Aug 31 2002 19:21, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80305				Link
AC is being announced... they reveal the choices of toys and games.. new clothes.. sporting goods NT

Aug 31 2002 19:21, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80306				Link
HGs want clothes NT

Aug 31 2002 19:31, Sat	sidney	Forum: 083102 Post: 80312				Link
after foth feed comes back to hgs all outside playing cards NT

Aug 31 2002 21:12, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80394				Link
It appears that the entire house is napping other than A, and maybe R? Not really exciting in BB3 Land right now. NT

Aug 31 2002 21:29, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80437				Link
A tells D that it sounds like they are erecting a building out back. BB announces something I don't hear, but causes D to return to bed. SILENCE NT

Aug 31 2002 21:32, Sat	Brookie	Forum: 083102 Post: 80447		Parent	Root	Link
Just asked D to put on her microphone. Amy said, Nevermind...she's just going back to bed." NT

Aug 31 2002 21:43, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80479		Parent	Root	Link
Oops, I forgot - she told D that she got in trouble for trying to look outside. NT

Aug 31 2002 21:33, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80449				Link
Amy - arms folded, sitting at table, and staring..looking totally bored, as are we. S-I-L-E-N-C-E-! NT

Aug 31 2002 21:35, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80456				Link
Amy's head turns toward the backyard..yes, Amy, we can hear the noise briefly, also. Poor Amy, nobody awake to talk to, & nothing to drink, either. NT

Aug 31 2002 21:51, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80501				Link
A-"I'm going to say what most everyone is thinking, but can't say." Thumbs up from J NT

Aug 31 2002 21:53, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80512		Parent	Root	Link
As an aside, A appears to be glowing in a sense..sort of on a natural high. NT

Aug 31 2002 21:56, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80526				Link
J is awake and thankfully there is a convo. J/A sitting talking about how she feels played. Amy asks Jason...
if he felt angry or whether he felt empowered when he found out that he had been played. (by R, although, she didn't use the name) She has been writing her POV speech in her head for the past hour, and won't tell him specifics, but than does tell him one line. Something about she wished Liberace could play the piano as well as she has been played. She apologized to Chi in the DR today. She feels so horrible for her and the things she said, since she now knows she misjudged her. "I'm going to help a lot of people" - A

Aug 31 2002 22:06, Sat	Mirage	Forum: 083102 Post: 80552				Link
Pretty interesting visual - Amy sitting at table surrounded by 7 empty chairs. Could this be symbolic of what may happen? Hmmmm NT

Aug 31 2002 22:07, Sat	ktan	Forum: 083102 Post: 80554				Link
F2 is a shot of the aquamassage machine in the backyard that Jason and Amy have apparently won (for a massage) in the veto comp. NT

Aug 31 2002 22:12, Sat	Brookie	Forum: 083102 Post: 80573				Link
Amy asks BB if they are ever gonna get their massages. She says, I know it's time to get them but we're probably waiting for Roddy to get finished in
the diary room and it's not fair to punish Jason because Roddy feels guilty.

Aug 31 2002 22:45, Sat	limitless	Forum: 083102 Post: 80686				Link
Roddy to Amy in the Kitchen "I just looked down at your breasts and you caught me" LOL NT

Aug 31 2002 23:32, Sat	KAD	Forum: 083102 Post: 80827				Link
It's the AquaMassage HP
Amy: I think I’m so clear on what I say. But most people don’t understand what I’m saying. Roddy: I understand what you say. But you may not always get what I’m saying. Jason and Amy got called to the DR. They both seem very excited. Jason is now walking around in a black robe. Lisa is admiring Amy’s bathing suit. Lisa: How come you never wear that, I like it. Amy: Um cause it’s too small. Lisa: Yeah but they like it like that. Roddy: J your are like the skinamax producer. Jason: No, we are like in the film. Houseguests are out of lockdown and they can go outside. It’s an Aquamassage HP Marc: Nice, I’ve had this before. Amy is reading the instructions. Amy: How do you lay in it. Lisa: I think you lay with your face down here.(As if to lay on stomach and face in pillow) Marc: When I did it I laid on my back. (He must have had a different thing because you could tell it was set up to lay face down rather then face up. With places to rest your arms below you) Ok Amy is in and somehow I figured this was going to happen. She’s giggling and says it tickles. Now she seems to have found her zone her head is down enjoying the massage. Lisa: Are you excited that it’s not a person giving the massage. Jason: Yeah, I’m glad it’s not. Jason: Amy said they told her in DR. That ever time we sing a little jingle they have to edit it out. Imagine how hard that would be to edit every single time we sing the slightest little jingle. Amy is done with her first 15 min. She came out like she went in….Giggling Jason: Amy was having a serious butt massage at one point. Jason is climbing in. Jason: I feel like I’m going off in space. His settings sound different then hers did. His sounds like he’s going thru car wash.

Sep 01 2002 00:19, Sun	KAD	Forum: 083102 Post: 80970				Link
Cooking in the Kitchen with Dan and Marc
Marc: And another thing that bothers me in the house. If anybody you would like to be put up against who would you want to be put up against. Dan: Amy Marc: He wouldn’t have a chance against Jason or you. He says what was I suppose to do not talk to these people. Dan: Yes. Marc: He said he voted against Josh, I said you voted against Josh to late in the game. Dan: When did he vote against Josh. Marc: I think he’s talking about when Josh was up against Tonya. Dan: Lets thank about it. It was 5-3. I think Jason did. Jason: What. Dan: There was Lisa, Chiara, and Gerry. Everybody else voted to evict Tonya. Marc: So he lied. Dan: He underestimated us. He doesn’t think we can remember the counts. Cameraman changed feed. Roddy: Can you feel the earthquake? Amy: What Roddy: Can you feel the earthquake right now. Amy: Oh god. It’s a slight rumble. Jason: It is pretty cool. Ok Cameraman is back on Marc, Dan and Jason in kitchen Marc: You are right, he is good. Dan: If you would have seen my face you would have said that girl has seen the devil. Marc: Well you did. Didn’t think we where going to come up here and enter no holy war. The crazy thing is I like him. I think he’s funny … Dan: I do too. Marc: I don’t think he’s marriage material. Dan: Why do you say that. Marc: Things he says about women. How he’s non committal. Dan: I heard my dad telling me don’t you be deceived girl. That’s when I went to the camera and said “The Devil”. Amy comes in Amy: There was a tiny tremor outside. Dan: Oh you felt an earthquake. Amy: Tiny one but I felt it. Marc: I have a little Jason persecution contest. He’s like all those little white boys that get everything in modeling and the black boys have to wait for ethnic work. Dan: If I was a single woman and you where straight and I was alone here with you two, who do you think I’d take. Marc: Him Dan: You got it.

Sep 01 2002 09:46, Sun	Sharky	Forum: 083102 Post: 81831		Parent	Root	Link
No, Dani said she'd choose Mar and Mar said "thank you" and smiled sincerely NT

Sep 01 2002 00:54, Sun	Webu	Forum: 083102 Post: 81082				Link
Finally, dinner is served in the Big Brother house. NT

Sep 01 2002 01:19, Sun	Webu	Forum: 083102 Post: 81158				Link
Having eaten finally, the houseguests natually turn to thoughts of alcohol.
Dani asks Roddy to go to the DR to ask for drinks as he has before and been successful. Meanwhile, they continue to wait for more of the second course for the hamburgers, french fries. Dani dances at the sink, entertaining the others, they continue to finish their meal.

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