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Topic #14486178 IceTheBest - Matt throws Ragan under the bus to Hayden 0 Replies #14486178 9:41PM 23/08/2010 Am watching this delayed on Tivo, but noticed it was at the top of the hour when there was a gap and this was too big not to post. This happened from 9:10 to 9'15 p.m. in the Taj room. Matt was telling Hayden that Brendon told him, he's gone. Matt asked him how he knew that. Brendon said because he has a premonition and he's always right about it. Matt asked Bren if there was anything he could do; he said no. It was a done deal. Matt then starts telling Hayden about a talk with Ragan after Ragan found out that Matt's been lying to him about his other alliance. Ragan has caught on to the Brigade, although he's still giving Matt the benefit of the doubt and says, he probably didn't know that they were counting him in their group. Matt keeps telling Hayden about his talk with Ragan, "He was definitely real pissed at me. He said he now has trust issues. That friendship wise and loyalty, he's still loyal, but that he's not going to tell me what he's thinking and wont use me as his diary room anymore. Matt told Hayden how he flat out lied and denied the brigade existed. Matt was feeling bad he lied to Ragan's face. Then Matt throws Ragan under the bus, "You can get him next. I don't give a F, I mean whatever you want to do, do. But just know, he's definitely catching on." Then "He's suspicious about everything now. He said Ragan said his eyes were open and now he feels better now that he knows not to trust anybody." Ragan is predicting to Matt that he'll be the next one gone. That's he's the odd man out. [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486323 Kagome - Matt and Ragan in Taj 0 Replies #14486323 9:53PM 23/08/2010 R: who did you talk to H? M: not part of any bargaining asked if any deals, about getting rid of Matt R: doesn't believe it M: just because of instinct? R: they're just tellingn you what you want to hear b/c you're a jury vote M: that would be sh*tty [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486394 Kagome - Matt and Ragan in Taj 1 Replies #14486394 9:56PM 23/08/2010 M: that would be crazy R: this is BB, they want your Jury vote M: jokes, you're evil R: i'm not evil, they're just telling you want you want. it's all based on instinct. M: they seem really honest. even last week when they thought I was leaving. R: I'm telling you, they want to win. The 3 , no the 2 people they want in the Finals are the ones who are telling you want to hear because you are a vote M: wouldn't it be annoying all week? R: they don't think you're going to find out. Mark my words M: I definitely think I'm going home. I don't think you're wrong. You think it's positive now? You think it's just those 2 or also Brit and Bren, do you think Enzo too? [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed] IceTheBest - Matt: "But Hayden is so good looking, I want to believe him" #14486763 10:12PM 23/08/2010 After Ragan told him he didn't believe the line Hayden told Matt about still having and opened mind about the vote. Matt: Hayden seemed so convincing. Ragan: No Matt; But He's so good looking, I want to believe him. He was just kinda gazing at me and telling me these things that he's still considering me. Ragan: I don't think you have a snow ball's chance in hell. Matt: Thanks Ragan: It's the truth. [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486507 Kagome - Matt still questioning Ragan 0 Replies #14486507 10:01PM 23/08/2010 M: is your gut wrong, ever? R: I don't think you have a shot. M: it's not fun. I don't want to hang out with Rachel and Kathy R: neither d I. If I were you, I'd still try. M: why do they want me gone? R: They can't beat you at the end or in individual competitions. M: I don't think I can beat Enzo at the end in a jury vote. R: Ragan disagrees, thinks M, Brit, and (someone I missed) would win against Enzo in a jury vote. Ragan would vote for Brendon over (the other guys) M: there's the strongest of the strong left R: there's one strong left and they others haven't started playing yet M: why are you kicking me when I'm down? R: you should've put Hayden up instead of kathy M: you see what I was going for tho' to stack the house for the Veto, if I were to do it again, I'd put up Brit [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486612 Kagome - Matt and Ragan talk about what would keep Matt in the game 0 Replies #14486612 10:05PM 23/08/2010 M: there isn't any lie to keep me in the house that would help me. R: dumb not to try to stay. You staying would be more shocking than pulling out another POV. There's definitely stuff in here that we don't know. If you come out to someone with logical irrefutable reasons, and they do the opposite, (Matt "you mean the Brit thing") then there is something you're leaving out of the equation. i don't know what. M: there have to be at least 3 people involved. a couple in jury. R: they aren't betrayed, it might not come out. (silence for awhile) M: if I tell you a super big secret, would that cheer you up? [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486622 Kagome - Matt says he'll tell Ragan a super big secret, that's weird, later tonight, about someone whose been in the house NT 0 Replies #14486622 10:05PM 23/08/2010 [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486671 Kagome - Ragan tries to guess. Matt says it's something he knows first hand.R asks is a woman really a man? R called to DR NT 0 Replies #14486671 10:08PM 23/08/2010 [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486672 Cindy - Ragan to Matt - You're leaving Thursday 0 Replies #14486672 10:08PM 23/08/2010 They are willing for you to be annoying for your vote. They don't think that you are gonna find out. mark my words Matt: I definately think I'm going home. I don't think its a positive now, do you think its a positive now? DO you think its just those 2 or britney and enzo too? Ragan: I don't know where the deals are Matt: just a gut feeling huh. is your gut wrong ever? Ragan: rarely, im pretty good at predicting this stuff, you don't have a shot. I think they are courting(?) jury votes right now Matt: its not fun, i don't want to hang out with Rach and Kathy Ragan: Neither do I....if I were you I would still try Matt: What is it that makes you feel this Ragan: they want you gone, you are one of the most powerful people in the game. If those boys make it to final 2 with any of the 3 of you.. i am voting for one of you over them. They know if I make it to the finals, I will beat any of them. There is one strong player yet, versus the 3 of them. They have yet to start playing the game. Matt: Man, what a bust. Why do you have to kick me when I'm down Ragan Rag: I'm just being real with you. I'm telling you today was very eye opening. The only way one of the 3 of them gets my vote is if they are against each other Matt: will that be like Natalies situation Ragan: mmmmhmmmm You should have put Hayden up Matt: when? Ragan: Instead of Kathy Matt: well you see what I was going for...to stack the house for Veto which obviously wasn't necessary because it was button pushing but thats what I was doing ***** if I had to do it all again, I would put Britney up...not even because she won an HOH following that. I coulnd't put Brendon up and Britney is the next strongest person. Of course Enzo would have won HOH and that wouldn't have been the greatest either but.... Ragan: For yo to stay in this house you would have to, I just don't see how you are gonna do it, its impossible. Even with a big lie, even with a big allusion. Matt: The truth of the matter is the truth is more (?) than a lie there is not really a lie that would do me any good Well, (sighs) I was feeling good for a little bit, not good but better Ragan: well you can try, you would be dumb if you didn't. You staying this week would be more shocking than you pulling out another DPOV [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486851 Kagome - Matt goes outside to play pool with Lane - racks up. Lane asks if Ragan feels a bit better or if he's suspicious of Lane 0 Replies #14486851 10:15PM 23/08/2010 Matt says Ragan is no longer emotionally invested, won't campaign against M. L: is R mad at Hayden? M: I've been throwing R off the scent of plans. Matt talks about Ragan's suspicions with the R knowing about splitting votes. That the 4 guys weren't an alliance, just friends and the conversation "just came up with the same guys sitting around since week 2. He says R said it was all 4 and you're low man on the totem pole, Matt insisted they were all just friends. R saying it's just 3 now, but it was an alliance. M saying he insisted he threw R off the scent and he can get R to believe him. M:(still just talking to Lane) knnows how it happened. Says, he also explained this to Hayden, Hayden knows R said someone threw him Under the Bus and 4 people told him. So that's probably how he knows. M:Our plan (with Brit) worked a little bit the opposite. He (R) didn't say it, but I'm pretty sure how that's how he figured it out. [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486858 IceTheBest - Britney asks Hayden & Enzo: Why are Matt & Ragan talking so much 0 Replies #14486858 10:16PM 23/08/2010 She invited them up to HOH. As soon as they walk in she asks, why are they talking so much. Hayden guesses because he's on the block. Enzo asks if they're in the hammock again. Brit: They were in the hammock for two hours earlier. Now they're in the Taj with the door shut." Britney: "They broke up and now they're back together again." She asks what they think the next competition will be. Britney doesn't let them answer and says, there has to be a Before and After coming up. Gotta be. Enzo says, that's the one where you step up and step down? Brit: Yes. But I tell you, when it comes to before and answer, Ragan knows all the answers. [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14486958 Kagome - Lane and Matt playing pool- still discussing Ragan/Brit, 0 Replies #14486958 10:19PM 23/08/2010 L: Ragan has a thick skin all of a sudden! M: Ragan thinks Brit is in on it.Please don't tell Brit or Ragan what I've told you (Brendon was on the patio) [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487007 Cindy - Matt: That's horrible to say to me (ragan saying if he stays it would be more shocking than if he pulled out another 1 Replies #14487007 10:22PM 23/08/2010 DPOV) Ragan: There is definitely stuff going on in this house that we have no idea Matt: You're right about that, I do think you are right about that. Ragan: If you come up to somebody very solid logical reasons, they're refutable to do something and they do the complete opposite Matt: Are you talking about the Britney thing? Ragan: There's stuff that you are leaving out of your equation. I don't know what it is. Matt: Ok heres the thing, there has to be 3 people, at least. 2 people aren't going to be in jury. the 3rd one or 4th or how ever many people are involved as well. I mean its gonna come out Ragan: Maybe, Maybe Not Matt: Really? Ragan: Yeah, you never know who is gonna take that person out. If they are not betrayed, it might not come out. Maybe Hayden, Britney, Lane...I don't know Matt: If I tell you a super super big secret that has the potential to make you laugh and cheer you up. Cause I don't want to blow it now if its not gonna work. Ragan: No tell me Matt: Are you in a mood that it might be funny? Ragan: I could be, yeah Matt: Alright, I'll tell you tonight. It's like really funny. Well, its funny to certain people, you being one of them. I hope it will cheer you up. Ragan: Is it weird? Matt: Yes Ragan: Like a hook-up thing? Matt: NO, not at all. You probably won't even be able to guess Ragan: about someone in the house? Matt: It's someone who's been in the house, yes I'll tell you in a little bit like in the Cabana, because it is something that I don't want people knowing. If I am the one out the door, you are the one I want to know this before I left Ragan: Is it something they told you? Matt: No. I wasn't going to say anything to anybody until Jury but If I'm really leaving...I would rather rest this in your hands Its something I have seen 1st hand [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed] IceTheBest - Ragan: I can tell you this. if those boys make it to the final 2, I'm not voting for them #14487101 10:27PM 23/08/2010 Ragan mad at E, L, H and tells Matt, "Today was very eye opening for me. The only way those 3 get my vote is if they're against each other. I'd vote for Brendon before I'd vote for one of them. Matt, I would too. Ragan: If Britney makes it, I'd vote for her, too. Matt: Over which one. Ragan: Over all of them. Matt: Yeah, me too, probably. Ragan: If I make it, I would get more votes and beat them. [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487099 Cindy - Ragan: I'm dying to know (Matts secret) 0 Replies #14487099 10:27PM 23/08/2010 Matt: I assure you its not a game changer, its just a...its just funny Ragan: Is somebody really a man who's a woman? Matt: I'll tell you in a little bit. You have to promise that this will make you happy, because I think it will I don't want you to like bum around when I tell you because this is like a big thing. Ragan: Who's really a man? Matt: laughs and almost spits out his water. I'll tell you in a little bit. Its funny because the other people, britney would really appreciate it but I'm kind of mad. It would be like you and Britney would love this Ragan: I can't wait Matt leaves Ragan in the Taj [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487166 Cindy - Matt in Taj w/Ragan telling him that he is a crazy huge BB Fan 0 Replies #14487166 10:30PM 23/08/2010 so much so that just crazy fan of the show. Its funny because people will be having convos and say who is that guy and I'm like (bites lips). I didn't want them to think like I was a master of the game. I'm such a big fan in fact that I was supposed to be on last season. Hence, I have seen in the flesh the Nat Monster. I have been in cars with Ronnie and Casey (goes to bubbles) [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487167 SouthernBelladonna - Matt tells Ragan his big secret... 1 Replies #14487167 10:30PM 23/08/2010 That he (Matt) is really a huge BB fan since season 1 and was supposed to be on the show last season. BUBBLES [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed] mhg76 - Before bubbles Matt also says that because he was supposed to be on last season #14487267 10:34PM 23/08/2010 that he's met the "Nat monster" and he's actually ridden in cars with two of the other cast members(I think Russel was one of them but I missed the names). [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487342 Cindy - Ragan: Crazy think is Matt, you should have won this season 0 Replies #14487342 10:39PM 23/08/2010 Your mistake was how you used the Veto Matt: Yeah, well I made a couple of mistakes (laughs) Ragan: Yeah. Omg, you should have won, this was your season Matt: yeah that is why when I got the call, I was like wow lightening can strike twice or fate. Stacy was just like WOW..like this reall...wow Ragan: So did you apply again or did you get a phone call saying..? Matt: well, I did apply but then when I got called. Ok I did apply, I always applied. I have been applying for a long time Ragan: ok Matt: I always applied in September like right when the season ends. I got the call and it was from the same person and (bubbles) [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487480 Cindy - Matt: I saw Natalie and I actually like her 0 Replies #14487480 10:47PM 23/08/2010 Ragan: That is so funny matt: so when I was going through everything, I knew everybody Ragan: wow, that's wild Matt: So I'm glad I could tell you that to cheer you up Ragan; That is wild Matt: Yeah, its kind of a cool story. Who would have thunk huh. Like you guys were talking, I remember you guys talking about season 6 and All-Stars trying to remember who came back and you guys were always missing one person. Who was I missing from Season 6..it was James. Not crazy James, like beady eyed James Ragan: Oh yeah yeah yeah...James Rhine I think is his name Matt: Yeah Ragan: that is so funny...its hilarious Matt: Im so glad I could share this, sometimes there were convos going on and I was like uhhhhh Ragan: So you would have been an offbeat Matt: Robyn told me that she would tell me on finale night what I would have been. I thought for sure Casey wasn't getting on. He seemed normal but he seemed like an old drunk dude Ragan: But he was interesting God, what am I gonna do? Matt I don't think you are in as horrible situation as you think Ragan: Do i completely lay low? Matt: YOu are right about your position but i think you are wrong about how it will play out [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487604 IceTheBest - Hayden & Enzo tell Britney in HOH Matt has to go 0 Replies #14487604 10:57PM 23/08/2010 They were in the HOH practicing before and after questions. Britney is missing many answers and says she's going home. H and E say, no you're not. Brit: I just don't want Brendon to win. H & E: Brendon's not going to win. Haydon: Brendon wants Ragan out. Brit: But what if he wins POV. Enzo: Then one of us is going up and we'll be freaking out. That's how it goes. Brit: Matt is still here. Hayden: Matt needs to go. Enzo: Yeah, he's done enough, I'm telling you. Brit: I bet Regan's going to come out. He's freaking out. He's going to try and make deals, because he's freaking out. Enzo: Oh yeah. Brit: Because Matt's gone, so now he'll start making deals. Hayden: Ragan told Matt today that he's doing home. Enzo: Wow, why would he tell him that? Brit: Because he's pissed off at Matt. Ragan told me he wasn't voting for Matt. Enzo, Yeah, but that's today. Wait until Thursday. They start practicing the sabatour's chronology. [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487642 IceTheBest - Ragan alone in BR studying aloud and rattling details off at lightning speed NT 0 Replies #14487642 11:01PM 23/08/2010 [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487700 Kagome - Enzo, Britney, Brendon in HOH (Hayden left the room a couple minutes ago) they've been talking about past houseguests 0 Replies #14487700 11:07PM 23/08/2010 asking Brit if she wants kids. Enzo concerned Brit so tiny. Enzo's wife also tiny. Brit: we're going to have super cute kids. (note: the past half hour they talked about Annie as saboteur, Andrew, Kathy, but I was listening and not typing) Camera cuts off and changes to Lane and Hayden at pool [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487697 IceTheBest - Enzo & Brit to Hayden: Kristen was too standoffish 0 Replies #14487697 11:07PM 23/08/2010 Taking a break from studying and Enzo and Brit tell Hayden Kristen was hard to get to know. Enzo: I really didn't get anything from Kristen. From day 1. I talk to everybody but nothing from her. Brit: She was too standoffish. I was like, why does she not want to talk to me. Sometimes I tried to talk to Kristen and she did not want to talk to me. I'd be like, So how's Philadelphia? And she'd say, fine. And nothing in return. You know most people would respond and ask, "So how's Arkansas." Hayden: She's just that way. Brit: Do you have a dog? She's say. No. Enzo: That's it. She was scary. Kristen was scary. Hayden laughs. Enzo: She was. Brendon comes up to HOH and joins them and the energy in the room falls. They start talking about Annie and guests from other seasons but breaks up soon after. [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487710 Kagome - Matt joins Hayden and Lane at the pool table. Matt asks "Where's the big E?" NT 0 Replies #14487710 11:08PM 23/08/2010 [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487726 Kagome - Lane screams "where's our balls, you said if we Lose 'Em we could get them back!?" implies that BB "stole em" NT 0 Replies #14487726 11:10PM 23/08/2010 [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487727 Gorf - Hayden joins Lane (who has been alone outside for most of the night) Lane tells Hayden about his convo with Matt, That Matt 0 Replies #14487727 11:10PM 23/08/2010 said the reason ragan prolly knows of the brigade is because Matt said right in front of him about splitting votes last week. And Ragan wondered why would they split votes if they weren't an alliance. Hayden agrees and says its Matts fault. Lane also says Matt told him another reason they may suspect the brigade is because all the brigade went to Brit today trying to get Ragan up. Lane says but thats a lie because no one went to Brit telling her to put Ragan up but Matt dosnt know that. Hayden says Matt is being backdoored by the Brigade. Hayden asks Lane if he has been alone out here the whole time? Lane says yes, its been very nice. Hayden asks if Lane wants to be alone and Lane says its ok. Matt joins them outside [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

Topic #14487747 Kagome - Hayden telling of a guy who could do trick shots at pool. Lane says he wants a football and he asked for one. Bubbles NT 0 Replies #14487747 11:12PM 23/08/2010 [link] [parent] [main] [threaded] [collapsed]

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