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| soupmonster - Janie, James, Howie, Marc, and Danielle talking game (SUPER LONG) |
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#3375305 10:24PM 16/07/2006 |
M: It's like they take turns picking on people, it's ridiculous.
Janie: They picked on me tonight. Said that I was not cool and boring and that I suck.
M: They picked on Diane, and then they move to E, and then they moved to the buxom blonde. It's just crazy.
Jan: It's like leave the buxom blonde alone, you know? I don't know why W picks on me. I think he knows I hate him.
Jan: Marci, I saw CG spying on us today.
They recount the story for him.
M: Is E gonna use the veto? And is K gonna...?
Jam: You wish he would, don't you?
M: More than anything.
Jam: We tried to get him to. We tried to sit him down yesterday, but he won't.
Marci mumbles something about a conspiracy theory.
Jam: I agree with you, Marc.
M: My heart was beating so fast when I was sleeping, it was crazy. Literally it was like my body was moving.
Jam: You're thing today was flailing around on the floor and losing it.
M: Why was G spying?
Jan: We don't know. We don't know what his logic was.
Jam: Whether it was to gather information or.. we have no idea. It just wasn't cool.
M: I'm becoming concerned about this.
Jan: I think everyone is. This is why I think the best thing to do is get rid of Di because I think he is working with her.
M: Have you seen the way he talks to her?
Jam: I think that's part of the plan.
M: No, it's not. She was pissed today.
Jam: I got the same vibe he was, but you said..
Jan: I still think they're working together.
Jam: Who do you think should stay, M?
M: I don't think either one of them should go.
Jam: You have no idea how much this has been stressing us. We have no idea why the nominations are those.
M: It was a shocker. It was eerily reminiscient of when they were coming after you.
Jan: Exactly, he's afraid to take out the threat.
M: Let's get rid of B.
Jan: We can't. K won't do it.
Jam: He wants to play it safe so that he looks like the good person. He wants us to do his dirty work.
Jan: He's worried about leaving next week.
M: Everyone should be worried about leaving next week.
Jam: Except for George.
Flames.
Jam: His answer to me was "if you wanna do it, then you get HOH". I was like "enough said". I think he knows that regardless of whether S6 is an alliance or not, they are a target because of our numbers. It doesn't help when you are going around saying "they're four, they're four", Marci.
Marci looks upset.
M: What do you mean about that? You ARE four.
Jam: I know, M, I'm just playing with you. The nominations are the stupdiest thing.
Jan: I know, the more I think about it, the more dumb I think they are.
H: There's still a possibility to change it.
Jan: Should we get K in here and talk to him about it.
Jam: No, he'll just run like he did last night. K thinks his move caused dissentiion in the house. It's like "no you ***** did, you moron". Don't you wish you were on HC to be talking about this one?
H: I know he's with them, he thinks he's in with us.. he'll throw the HOH. Why would he want to show his colors.
M: What you guys have to understand is that there is this power struggle going on in this house. You got the four, you got CT, it's like what do you do, where do you go? The problem is, I don't think CT is capable of winning a competition.
Jam: But they are capable of extreme manipulation.
M: I see that with whatever the ***** happened with K.
Jam: They probably let him think he was in charge the entire time.
M: Do you think K made a deal with them?
Jan: I don't think so, I hope not. What do you think the best movie for you to do would be right now?
Jam: Would E even be willing to use the veto?
H: That kind of puts a target on her head.
Jam: It does, but it doesn't. This is the best time to do things.. people may be pissed at her right now, but no one in the world is gonna put up E if they want to go after the four.
M: You never know, because Di and Nak is on the block. What good does it serve for either one of them to get out of there?
Jam: Not a ***** thing.
H: Well it does, because Nak was going for us. If she won HOH, two of us would be on the block, 100%.
M: That's because you are the four, you have the numbers. It's not a personal thing.
H: I know that. But it doesn't matter if it's personal or strategic.
M: Nak could have won that last HOH. Di ***** crumbled. Do what you want, but I'm voting for Nak to go. She's a strong player.
Jam: You don't want to make her an ally? What do you think?
M: I love Nak, but I think she's a one trick pony. I'm not big onto that six finger plan, because I know other people were coming on to it, she was just the first person to say it.
Jam: So you're saying it's just for a show.
M: It wasn't hard to figure out. It was group conversation. People were coming to it.
H: Nak won three HOHs, she knows how to play.
Jam: She has a good memory, she's a good student.
Jan: I don't know, I just don't know.
Jam: Who would you trust more?
Jan: I just feel Di would move to CT, where Nak wouldn't because she hates them.
Jam: What do you think about that?
Marc sighs.
M: You think Di would move to CT?
Jam: All I do is hear Di rip on CT.
Jan: I feel the whole showmance thing to B..
M: Di got played before by a guy, she won't let that happen again. I was in that room all night last night, and the way that Jase was talking to her and talks about her.. there's actually ugliness. You can't fake that. When I was sitting out there, and B was like "The 6ers are going. Who should I be in a showmance with? E or Di?" and Jase said "If you give her attention, you can be banging that in two days".
Jam: If you and I were starting to not like each other, I could never say that about you.
M: It's real. I've been looking for it. After last night, I talked to E, and we were both like "why does he treat her like that?"
Dani walks in. Howie asks her to do her Tina Turner.
M: Do you have an idea either way?
D: I told her my thoughts about when I went to Nak and she didn't really give me anything. I'm not really in with her. So I think about her being really good at comps, and Di not being good at comp.. do you keep the stronger one to take out other players? Should we protect her and say that she has to go after the duo? Or do we keep the weaker one who isn't going to win?
Jam: Also, which one is gonna come and bite you in the ass later? As much as we have to win week to week, we are looking for someone to take out two people who can't even win comps. If we're thinking week to week, and we want Nak to help. But if you think long term, do you want to be going after Nak or Di when your ass is on the line?
D: Nak is a badass at comps.
H: Let's say hypothetically we took someone off the block, and put a CT member on the block.
Jam: I think E would use it if the house asked her. The problem is getting K to nominate. You know what, ***** it. What would he do if we used the veto anyway? He has to throw someone up.
M and D are like "nuh uh, nuh uh!!"
D: It's one of those things like if the situation was in reverse, you just don't want people to use it because you don't want to be the one sitting up there. Have you asked him which one you want gone?
Jan: He says he wants Di gone.
Jam: Today he says that, but before it was the other one. He's changing his mind every two seconds. He won't admit he made a ***** up with the noms. He's trying to rationalize it.
Jan: Do you think his noms suck?
D: There are two people, it's quite obvious.... Has he made any deals?
Jan: The thing is, like, it's so stupid because K basically said he gave them two weeks of safety.
D: That never works. You can never promise anyone safety because it bites you in the ass.
Jan: What do you think we should do? Try to convince K?
H: He's our ally, we can't convince him.
Jam: Do we go after him as a group or go one by one? When we tried to talk to him last night, he was really adamant on getting rid of those girls.
Jan: I don't know why.
H: Because they were gunning for BB6. They were. Nak took me and him out first on that meteor rock.
D: Who did Di take out?
Jan: No one.
D: Go with your gut. I'll talk to them individually and see what their plans are. But I would talk with them one and one and see what they say, and go off of that. You're a loss prevention manager, you know how to do that. Just talk to them one and on and see what your thoughts are after that. Don't gang up on them, but maybe you, James, should do that.
Jam: I've been talking to them the whole time because once one gets off, I want to be close to her. Nak is here and focused.
D: She will make less mistakes.
Jam: Nak, hands down, is probably the smartest person in this house. W has his trade, he's smart in the field of medicine, but I think Nak is the smartest. Absolutely. When you have discussions with her, she reaches areas of topics.. she is so knowledgeable. You can have good convos with her. I think she would be a great short term ally, but in the long term, we are setting her up to win this game.
D: Just talk to her. Ask her questions, and the way she phrases her stuff.. she is so smart.
Jan: She was talking to me and was like "Janie, I've never lied" and all that stuff.
M: This is BB7 Allstars.. I don't think people need to lie. Just say "sorry, I'm playing the game".
Jam: Yeah. My thing is, when they got nominated, Nak cried, but Di flipped her wig. She was like "I never should have smoked so much, I lost so many brain cells". Who would admit that on TV? My thing is, Nak gets HOH and decides to go back on her word, she's not someone you can go in there and strong arm. She stood up to the biggest and baddest peson in that house. But Di was bouncing all over the place.
D: I don't know, talk to her.
Jam: Both of them I think I am in good favor with. There are two different decisions here.. short term and long term. Short term, Nak as an ally is great. You're looking at an ally to go against CT who doesn't have great comp records. Long term, Di is better to keep because she doesn't win.
D: Are you sure CT is going to vote to keep Di?
Jam: Yeah, she hangs out with them. Nak and Di targeted us the first day. That's why I plopped myself down with them. I did the same thing with Ali.
Jan: I feel so lucky that she's gone. She went around the whole house saying she was putting H up. But she's kind of dumb for being like "I'm coming after you!"
D: That's her style.
Jam: She can't be that bright because she came to me telling me she was going after you guys. But let's back up.. we don't need Nak as an ally because they are not that good at comps. But long term, getting Nak out of this house again is going to be really hard.
H: So we get her out, and we go after CT>
Jam: We just have to figure out the best scenario.
D: I would take the weak link. Seriously. She's awesome, she's a bad ass.
H: If she says "hey, you keep me, I go after CT". Let's say she is vetoed, and K puts up a CT member, who do we vote out?
Everyone: CT.
D: Do you want me to talk to the girls? I haven't talked to them.
Talking about farts now.
D: Did you find out who Jase wants out?
Jan: He doesn't talk anymore.
Jam: He only needed us once, and after that was done..
Jan: He's with CT now.
H: There IS a new CT.
Jan: Jase is really smart.
Jam: You talk to the girls tonight. I'll talk to Di tonight also.
H: The last comp was T/F. Not the most difficult of comps.
Jan: Jase and I go them all right on the sidelines.
Jam: You're a bad ass, Janie. If CG wins one before me, I'm going to impale myself on something.
H: The funny thing is that we can say and laugh and joke. But anyone can win it.
Jam: Unless it's me winning an HOH.
D: Okay, so I'm gonna talk to Nak in the morning.
Jam: But veto is tomorrow.
Jan: I bet it will change again. It keeps on changing every day.
D: Go with your gut. Go with your gut.
Jam: I really feel like, and I had dreams about it.. if Nak stays here, we are done later on.
H: Let's get rid of her. There are tons of people coming after us, but we can only get rid of once a week.
D: When you talk to Nak or Di, ask her for a deal.
H: Can I give you an example? Yesterday Di and Nak were super ecstatic that E was competing because of her win.
D: I personally asked for Nak to keep me here. I said that if she voted to keep me here, I would pay her the same courtesy. She was like "mm". She didn't commit. So that's where I'm at right now. I'll talk to her tomorrow morning and let you guys know. |
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