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Topic #13933997
WillRulz - Brendon, Rachel argue in the HOH room... 0 Replies #13933997 9:09AM 30/07/2010
Brendon: There is a lot we can do. We can shrink the target.

Brendon thinks the way Rachel has acted towards Kristen will turn the house even more against them.

He encourages her to be the bigger person so that more people are on their side.

Brendon: If you are really struggling to be nice to Kristen then distance yourself from her. We should not be worried about being targets as HOH. If we play our cards right, nobody will come after us. I want people to say we are really nice.

Rachel: What game are you playing? People are not nice. Every HOH gets worse.

Brendon: Because your attitude is ***** this, ***** that. This is a social game. You have to let your emotions ride in the backseat during this game.

Rachel: No, I am playing like I should be the whole time.

Brendon: We need to make friends.

Rachel: Then, go make friends!

Brendon: I don't want you to make a mistake.

Rachel: Go play your social game. Go make your friends. I am going to win everything I can. Seriously, just give me ten minutes.

Brendon: I am on your side. I am on your side.

Rachel: No, you are not. Leave me alone.

Brendon exits the HOH room.

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Topic #13934052
caylashae - Kris, Hay, and Kat sitting in silence in the bathroom. NT 0 Replies #13934052 9:13AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13934080
caylashae - Bren joins crew in Jimanji and chit-chats about clubs, airports, and traveling NT 0 Replies #13934080 9:14AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13934119
caylashae - Kat tells Hay/Kris that she would use the PoV on one of them if she won. NT 0 Replies #13934119 9:16AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13934239
caylashae - Rachel is pouting in the HoH and Kristen is pouting in the bathroom. NT 0 Replies #13934239 9:25AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13934282
caylashae - Ragan joins Rachel in the HoH to encourage her to be happy, 0 Replies #13934282 9:27AM 30/07/2010
Rachel is upset because she is fighting so hard to be here and she feels that Brendan doesn't appreciate her. Ragan tells her she needs to get out of her funk.

Rachel: I feel like there is an obvious person attacking me and Brenden keeps saying "be nice, be nice..." He's not sticking up for me.

Ragan: He is sticking up for you.

Rachel thinks that Brendan is being too nice to Kristen by offering her coffee earlier.
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Topic #13934354
caylashae - Rachel is crying because she wants Brendan to be happy for her winning and she feels that he's not encouraging her. NT 0 Replies #13934354 9:31AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13934380
WillRulz - Rachel to Ragan: Brendon is being so mean.... 0 Replies #13934380 9:32AM 30/07/2010
Rachel to Ragan: Brendon is being so mean. Don't tell me what to do. I am trying to keep him and our friends here.

Ragan defends Brendon. He just doesn't want her to make mistakes.

Rachel recounts the conversation, stressing Brendon as being mean.

Ragan: The more nicer you are. The more gracious you are, the more positive you are, so much better. Do you allow yourself to fall down the rabbit hole of negativity?

Rachel cries: I am trying so hard. I told Kristen I would talk to her later.

Ragan feels it will be a good day.

Rachel complains that Brendon tore her down and wasn't being supportive at all.

Rachel: I just don't know. It makes things ten times harder. I feel like my back is against the wall.
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Topic #13934407
caylashae - Ragan giving Rach advice on gender communication and trying to make her understand that they're just on different communication levels. NT 0 Replies #13934407 9:33AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13934490
Gratefulvw - It's that time again! All HG's are still sleeping so here is a recap of the Hayden/Rachel discussion at 6:30pm yesterday 0 Replies #13934490 9:38AM 30/07/2010
Hayden pulled RAchel out of the Fern room to go into the Taj room with him

Hayden: I am sorry if I said anything out there that offended you, cause that is not me. It was heat of the moment

Rachel: I know it was heat of the moment and the problem is Hayden is...Kristin is like....I am really upset right now because she is so mean (she begins to cry, begins to talk in whiny, struggling not to cry voice) like....me and Brendon, if we didn't win this week we were going to go home! And like, I don't want to be seperated from him, we are fighting so hard...and I am like crying without tears and I am shaking and I don't even know what emotion I am feeling right now but like...Hayden like I knew that you and Kristin liked each other and that is fine...and I am happy for you! Like, who cares, nobody but like when you guys throw me and Brendon under the bus (Hayden goes to say something, Rach puts hand out to stop him) Kristin straight up told me that she was going to put us up. You said, I don't want to put you guys up, she said she was going to!

Hayden (shrugs and starts stammering): Er, eh, okay....I am apologizing for what I said to you guys outside. It was the heat of the moment, I didn't mean it, I like you, I like Brendon a lot....For one, you know you didn't hear us making out last night because you didn't

R: I TOTALLY heard you guys doing something

H: Yeah, you heard SOMETHING but I promise you it wasn't a make out session

R: It sounded like a make out session

H: That is fine if it did, but it wasn't! And then you tell the whole house that we were, when we weren't! (shrugs) I mean....you...(huffs) are you sure it was a makeout session? NO! I know you are not cuz we didn't make out (shrugs again) And you told the whole house that we did, which is fine, in the heat of the moment, that, that's over. And I just wanted to apologize to you. I said a couple of things that I didn't mean, and you are probably going to put me on the block, whatever...

R (interrupts): And you put me and Brendon up next to each other and Kristin put me up Every.Single.Time.

(it is important to note that Hayden has kept his tone of voice the same, very calm, non confrontational. Rachel has raised her voice several times and the tears stopped just as suddenly as they began)

H: Well, what do you expect after that whole thing came out?

R: (very loudly) WITH ANDREW???? THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, BEFORE! We didn't say anything to you guys before we went outside and she put me up every single time. She wanted me to lose! You put me and Brendon up next to eachother and you say you are our friend? And then you put us up next to each other??????

H: (again, still calm voice) yeah, I did. Yeah

R: Like, like what does that say (again, for the record, I am not adding any words here. This is the actual amount of times Rachel says like in a conversation with anyone)

H: Were you guys not going to put me up this week?

R: NO! (yells No) Why would we ever do that Hayden?????

H: Everyone is going around the house telling me that you are going up on the block this week if Brendon and Rachel win, you're going up on the block

R (very cocky): WELL....everyone in the house lies! Apparently! Cause I had no intentions of doing that to you

H: Well that is what I have been hearing all week and I....

R: (interrupts) Hayden, you asked me twice and what did I say to your face????

H: I know, I know you wouldn't, but do you remember (puts his drink down) remember the conversation we had when you said I definitely wouldn't do that and I asked well, what is Brendon saying and you said, well, we are on two different pages?

R: No, I said Brendon and I don't think the same...all the time...but it has nothing to do with you

H: Well I asked, I asked you if he was going to put me up and you said...

R (interrupts): I said talk to Brendon! My exact words were talk to Brendon!

H: No, you didn't tell me to talk to Brendon, you know you didn't. And I am not, again, I just came in here to apologize for saying things that I didn't mean. If you put me on the block or Kristin or whatever, I understand. Um, so, I understand...again, I just wanted to apologize

R: I mean I am sorry too... (Hayden and Rachel talk over each other here) I don't think you guys understand

H: I don't think it needs to come to that

R:Like.....HOW......MUCH.....Brendon and I have to fight everyday to be here

H: no I do understand, trust me I...

R (interrupts again): LIke...we...are going on the block every week if we don't win, and don't win POV, and don't win somethng else...(dramatic sigh)

H: RAchel....I understand more than you do! I talk to everybody else in the house, more than you do because you are brendon aren't isolated, but ppl don't tell you what they are thinking but ppl tell me, I am not going to say they tell me what they are thinking, but they tell me more of what they are thinking than they tell you because everybody wants you guys out. I mean, it's like you just said, everybody wants you on the block, whatever. So I know how hard it is for you guys, I do! I truly do. Again, I just wanted to come here to apologize, not to tell you not to put me on the block. If you do, that is your decision and I respect it. But I just wanted to apologize, and clear the air, because I said things that I didn't mean because I do like you guys. I do

R: I mean, I said plenty of things too that I didn't mean. I don't even know what I said or what just happened, everything was really fast. Apparently I cussed about twenty times and I didn't mean too...

H: Wait til you hear it (laughs) or don't hear it cuz the audio is cutting in and out

R: I mean

H: I mean Kristin is great

R: She is not though Hayden, I mean her whole goal, and I don't know you don't have to believe me, but her whole goal is to be the only girl here and to let you guys go at it. she told me this, specifically told me this, she wanted me and her to be the only two girls here and for all the guys to go at it so that we were guaranteed to go into the final four. And my exact words were we need to protect Brendon and Hayden

H (nodding): Well, I appreciate that

R: And then she was like (ditz's up her voice to imitate Kris) Well, yeah I mean of course! And then she tells me that she can control your vote, she has you

H: Well, she can't I am going to vote for myself (rach sighs dramatically) trust me when you can't talk about DR sessions or anything else, but when you are on the outside and you see what is unfolded you'll know that she is not controlling my votes, at all. Um, again whatever you do this week is your decision, I will respect that

R (doesn't appear to be listening to what Hayden is saying): And Kristin..she is so mean to me, she didn't talk to me all last week. She was suppose to be my best friend when I was HOH and she didn't talk to me the entire last week, the entire last week! I tried to talk to her and I tried to be here friend, she doesn't want anything to do with me

H: (shrugs) And I, again.....you know (sighs) I....

R (interrrupts again, whining) She wants me and Brendon to be broken up...You can't say that she doesn't

H: (shrugs, look away and sighs): Again, most ppl in the house wants you guys broken up, I am not going to throw her under the bus and say that she does...and I

R (interrupts): And she told me.specifically.she did. So, it's like.... (big sigh)

H: I know...it's a tough thing...for everybody...cuz I like, for me I like Kristin cuz i just do. I am attracted to her, I like her whatever Um, and I do. But I didn't come here....I didn't come here for a shomance and I am not saying that you did, at all, and obviously you and Brendon have a serious connection, like you guys....

R: Like, a retarted connection

H: and we all see it, it's ***** connection...and in my opinion, and you don't, you don't feel the same way, but Kristin is great1 She's a great girl, um, but I am not here for a showmance or anything of that nature. So....and I like Kristin, I do! And I can see myself dating her outside of the house or something like that, but..

R: I don't think your parents would want you to date someone like that!

H: Again, I am not going to judge

R: And Hayden, I like you And this sucks cuz like, I really truly genuinely like like you and I think you are a cool guy your nice, like...but...like I am feeling so many emotions right now, like I don't even know what is going on, like this whole rest of the night is probably going to be a blur because I feel so many different emotions right now (her voice is cracking, sounds like she may try to cry) but like, i know before going into this I really like you and I know now, like, I don't know what to think cuz of what just happened and you VERY CLEARLY but Brendon and I up against eachother! you clearly said you wouldnt do that

H (corrects her): I said I wouldn't put you guys up if I was HOH

R: Whatever! that is the same thing, it's like come on

H: I understand but I will say....the house

R (interrupts again, clearly not caring what hayden is trying to say): And furthermore, Kristin put me up every single time, every single time!!! It was Kristin!! And she was like it was Kristin and rach and so and so rachel and so and so trying to get ppl to beat me! She did not, she did not want Brendon and I to win

H: Cause she thought you guys were going to put her up

R (vry cocky) Well I wasn't going to but now (make phffff sound) (sidenote..this is a lie. She has stated several times in previous conversations that she was going to put Kristin up) Very obviously going to!!!

H: Yeah, and I get it. Thats....if I was in your shoes, i would do the same thing after what happened. Um (mumbling) thats, the, for, for your decision that part of it is pretty clear cut and I am not trying to influence what you are going to do I just wanted to apologize. I mean, that was not me out there. Heat of the moment, I said things that I didn't mean and that is why I pulled you aside. Like I said,you put me up you put me up. Um, that is part of the game. So

R: I am sorry, like I don't understand, like I never wanted it to come to this. Like I just don't understand, what happened to what we said to weeks ago when we were like let's get rid of the real floaters. What happened to that? Now it's like, Let's go, Let's get two strong couples after each other? Like, what is that? that was never, we were friends! Like the four of us we were friends! We were like, let's like wait til we get to the jury house and we can all go at it then

(important to note, Hayden has been standing up during this entire conversation while Rachel is sittin on a bed. Hayden has clearly tried to end the conversation several times but Rachel keeps bringing up other points or going back to stuff they have already talked about. At this point, Hayden seems resigned to the fact that he can not get her to stop going on and on because he has just decided to sit on the bed next to Rachel)

R: Like what happened to that Hayden? Now it's like, you and Kristin against me and Brendon, now it's like a war

H: And that is not good either for any of us

R: no, its not good for A. any of us B. and it's not good for the entire house to have two good, strong couples fighting

H (tries to interject to say): well, it is good for the house

R: fighting against each other

H: It's is good for the rest of the house

R: (laughing) Why, so we can all fight against each other? I mean...

H: Well, I am saying, for one, power couples, two couples fighting against each other would be good for the rest of the house cuz they can sit back and watch while we duke it out and create drama which is good for them, but it's stupid. And then everyone else can skate right into the jury house...

R: Exactly! Well, exactly! And what happened to , let's go after the floaters, let's go after the real f'n, I am sorry, I cuss so much. Let's go at this like fighters, let's go at this like competitors? what happened to that? (Hayden tries to respond by saying well, but Rachel plows right over him) And no offense Hayden, but you didn't see that second HOH, that third HOH I mean, but Kristin jumped off. I watched that entire thing happen and she was just like eeehhhhhgggg and just either gave up or jumped off

H: and i, I didn't see it. If you watched then you know I didn't just jump off (Hayden trying to say this, Rachel talking over him by saying....)

R: I will tell you, my honest to God target (just heard what Hayden was saying) No I saw you, I watched you, I don't think you did. But my honest to God targets were going to be the super floaters that did not make it through that endurance competition. Those were my targets, those were the ppl...

H: So like, you would call Kristin a floater?

R: I would call Kristin a floater after that endurance competition and I would call her a floater because, because maybe she is not a floater on teh side or in the middle, but she is a person that is not going to try and win any challenges til she has to and....watch her fight so hard at this next POV, she is goign to fight so hard at this next POV. But you know what, she is goign to attach herself so hard to you Hayden,she's going to try, she's going to try and (she uses air qoutes) float right now through and skate on through, like always being the cool girl always being the cool, being teh girl that is never going to win a competition because she knows she is never going to go up if she is the only girl here! (she gets a little whiny here) The guys aren't going to put her up if she is the only girl here. She is going to manipulate every decision, she manipulated me into putting Monet up, she manipulated, she's going to manipulate people into, she just wants to be the girl that kinda goes through. That is fine! If that is what, if that is her game! Everyone has a different strat, My strat is to fight for my life obviously and I do!!! And Hayden I wanted, I did not want to put you up but, like i don't kow what I am going to do obviously, but like you put Brendon and i up against each other and then Kristin and then Kristin (Hayden tried to say "well, I will" but rach plowed over him again) put me up every single time (whining again) and she was clearly, like when we were up there together she wasn't doing it in a nice way, she was doing it very obviously because she does not liek me. Verey obviously! VERY OBVIOUSLY!

H: can i tell you this?

R: Yes

H: yeah, I did put you and brendon up against each other, but every other single person was going to do the same thing

H: And if I didn't do that then the rest of the house would see that

R: But Hayden...like...if you say that you are our friend and we are going to make it to the jury house and then go at it? We are going to make it thrugh week five and get rid of all the floaters and that is the plan all along, and then all of a sudden you are changing the plan just because the rest of the house wants to do something different?

H: No no, you are misunderstanding. I did tell you guys I wouldn't put you guys up, which is true, which is true

R (whisper) who were you going to put up?

H: Probably Kathy, but um no but things change day to day it's all relative yeah I mean, no matter who won, they would have put you two up

R: Oh I know...I know how wouldn't have for sure

H: Who wouldn't have?

R: I know who wouldn't have for sure

H: And I am telling you that if they are telling you they wouldn't have, they are lying (long silence) I guarantee!

R: who? Do you think?

H: Anybody who told you that they wouldn't have put you and brendon up is lying

(Rachel says nothing for a few moments and then) Do you see the dilemma that brendon and I are in?

H: I do, you guys have your backs against the wall

R: We have our backs against the wall...every...week

H: And you guys have been unbelievable, unbelievable!

R: And all we have been able to do is fight for our lives

H: Is win, win and win and win and win
And then I watch ppl like Kristin, like whatever, she doesn't care cuz she doesn't think that anyone would target her and it's NOT FAIR!

H: well...you're right you're right it's ot fair

R: it's like we are playing (get's loud again and dramatic) who said winning a 1/2 million dollars is going to be easy? it's not going to be easy we all have to fight to be here. (very dramatic now) And AnYONE who is not fighting to be here does not.deserve. that money!!!! THEY DON'T DESERVE TO BE HERE! BOTTOM LINE!!!

H: Right

R: Like, if you aren't going to fight to be here then you do'nt deserve it because i know I ate, drink, and slept big brother until I got here, and now that I got here I have big brother dreams day in and day out! I think about possible strats I could use for the next competiton, I think about what the next comp could be. All I do is think about how I am going to stay longer in this house. And I feel like I am pretty nice to everyone, like I feel like I am like pretty decent person, a human being, and I don't know (air quotes) true colors, or whatever and yeah heat of the moment I was upset Kristin put me up every single time, I won I jumped up and then I cried and like I then stopped crying and like my emotions where going so crazy...that...I ....can not even explain to you (she now picks up her glass and is moving it up and down to accent her point and raise the dramatics of the speech)how when, like, you have to fight for your life..it's so crazy... (hayden says right and rachel sounds like she is summoning tears) when you know you made it through another week. And we knew, like, brendon and I talked about how if we didn't win this week that one of us was going to be put up on that block and how we would get out of it and we strat on how to get out of it. Hayden, we have been doing this every week and it's like...

H: I know you guys, it's like you guys have been doing great I mean...

(rachel was not done with her speech and continues over hayden): And all it does, I mean we are not mean to ppl, I mean like, we are the outcasts!

H: Am I mean to ppl?

R: NOOO!! but BUT (she is not answering his question, she needs to finish her speech) Brendon and I are the outcasts of the house and we try to be friends with everybody and then someone like Kristin is mean and doesn't want to talk to us....or, like ppl want to attack us and put us up but we, we go out of our way to make conversation, like we want to be, we want to be like with you guys we want to bewith this whole house dynamic but we can't cuz we are singled out! Maybe it's because we are together, maybe it's cuz we are a strong alliance, but it can't be because everyone has alliances. Tell me you would ever turn on Kristin? No you wouldn't so that is a strong alliance, so like

H: I am going to do to what is best for me in this house

R: well...maybe taht is where me and brendon are different because I would do what is best for both of us and if I had to sacrifice someone I would rather sacrifice myself then Brendon.

Hayden tries to talk by saying "I am not" but rachel continues: i would never let him go home

H: and I respect that

R: Just like I told you week one, that I would use the POV on brendon adn if I would have won it

H: and when you told me that I gained a lot of respect for you

R: and it's not just brendon. Like anyone that I am aligned with and is my friend and is a loyal person to me I would be the same to them, I woudl never, ever, ever let any of my friends, my ppl like go down, I just wouldn't. And, if it came down to it, and if it was like final three and it was me, brendon and someone else, then like honestly I would just like let it go and let the cookie crumble where it. I woudl never, ever ever turn on one of my friends! I would do whatever I could to keep them off the block, I would do whatever I could to fight for them and Hayden those are the ppl I want to align with too. Brendon is the same way! He would do whatever for the ppl that are in our circle, but nobody wants to be. And I don't know if they think it is because we would trun on them, I don't know if they think it's because...I don't know why but (whispers) but the chances of brendon adn I making it to the final two are very slim. (hayden nods) Very slim, very slim so the ppl that we don't want to split up, the ppl that want to align with us and want to be friends with us will have an advantage because we are going to have that same relationship with them. And I thought, and maybe I am stupid, but i thought you and Kristin were on teh same page as us and now...it's turned into a....two very strong couples fighting against each otehr, which, which doesnt' make any sence because we still have, like, the rest of the summer to hate each other and you guys have decided to with a month going in

H: What do you mean you guys have decided to?

R: You and Kristin have decided to turn on us within one month of like being here

H: You think (sighs)For one, I am not going to say that we turned on you because (he pauses briefly and Rachel pounces)

R: Hayden, if you wuld have won, you said you wouldn't put us up, however, being realistic, would that not be one of your options?

H: It would be an option, but the only reason that it would be an option is that if I didn't put you guys up the rest of the house would look at me an...

R: (interrupts): and you say you are playing for yourself? But you just said you have to worry about what the rest of the house thinks Hayden!

H: that is how you play for yourself

R (interrupts again) And you know what, for me if I tell yuo I would never do that, I would never do that until someone turns on me. I mean like that is all there is like that is the bottom line. I would never turn on you, I don't want to be enemies, chances are, I mean, I don't even know what I am goin gto do righ tnow....like my brain is so....like I can't believe I just won that....like I can't believe that just happened, like I am shocked I don't know when I was hitting that stupid button, I don't even know what was going on, lke, I was shaking the whole time (dramatic sigh) but...I don't know what I am going to do but I do know that right now I am so mad at Kristin that if she was to go home and we had to vote and I had to put someone up right this second and she went home and we would still live in this house together and I dont want us to hate each other and be at it the whole rest of the summer

H: You mean you and I?

R: Yes

H: I know. I am smart enough to understand that that wouldn't be in my best interest. I mean Rachel I...

R: Brendon and I are strong competitors!

H: Yeah, I know you are going to win everything but I mean, aside from the game I like you guys both a lot, as people

R: We like you too

H: I mean odds are, I am not stupid, right now if you make a decision to put ppl on the block it's me and Kristin, I mean it's

R: I mean, if I had to stand there on the block right now and pick two ppl it would be you and Kristin

H: yeah

R: I don't know what I am going to do, I have until tomorrow...I mean my brain is like, seriously, I am soooooooo, Like.....I don't even know what just happened, apparently I just had 12 FCC regulations against me

H: so you

R (plows through Hayden again) I don't know what I am like going to do, that was not my original intention, at all

H: So you wouldn't have put me on the block this week, that is what you are saying?

R: Hayden I have told you before

H (he interrupts her, irritated): I know you me

R: that was 100% not my intention to put you on the block (again, she is contridicting previous statements she has made) (she begins to whisper) I had no intention to put you on the block..at all!

H: And you didn't tell anbody?

R: I did not tell a single person

H: Your friends? you have never told them you would put me on teh block?

R: no, never, never! you have never ever, ever come out of my mind as the one I want to put on the block Hayden

H: you are telling me the truth?

R: I pinkie swear to you on my life, like you don't have to believe me, but I have to reason to lie to you right now (she holds out her pinkie and Hayden pinkie swears)

H: Yeah, no you have///

R: I have no reason to lie to you and you were not someone that I was even thinking aobut, there is few other ppl that ...yes, I was thinking about Kristin and you want to know why because Kristin told me, to my face, that she was going to put me on the block because she needs to do what is best for the house and then, I said to her REally? You have to do what is best for the house? and she was like Yes I do and then, um, I was like so yu are going to put me and bendon on the block? and that was the last thing I have said to her, we haven't talked since. but you, hayden, are not someone that I wanted to put up, at all

H: I....

Rach plows through again: And I don't know who told you these things, I don't know why ppl want to cause so much drama

H: Honestly I heard from and few ppl, not Krstin

R: and obviously they are lying to you so you come after me and brendon

H: Well I know but what would you...

R: Obvisouly they want you me and brendon to hate each other, I don't kow...I didn't, I believed you when you said that you wouldn't put us up on the block and Brendon was like are you sure taht you can trust Hayden and I was like yes (I may be wrong here, but I believe rach was the one that questioned haydens loyalty) I don't believe Hayden would lie to us, I, even ask brendon, I said that, I was like I don't think that hayden would put us up on the block. but...I mean

H: I mean, I was told, I mean I told you I was told that I was your guys target this week

R; Hayden, I dont' even know who told you that

H: More than one person, MORE than one person, like

R: Maybe they wanted you to hate us, I don't know

H: well, at least the ppl that told me....

R: I mean, maybe you need to tell me the ppl that told you these things, so that we can confront them? Maybe we need to have a house meeting about who is against brendon and I because I would just love more than anything to know who and why ppl are saying brendon adn I have all these targets and we...

H: what was going on with you and andrew?

R: I did not talk to him, he did not like me, he was mean to me, I barely ever talked to him. I dont' know if andrew was saying you were a target, I don't kow, apparently andrew was saying he was going around telling everyone that he was going to get me and brendon out of the house and then he was telling brendon and i that he wanted, he wanted for us to be friends and whatever

H: i don't get why I don't get, and this is stupid, can I just ask you a question?

R: what?

H: was brendon, was he just rallying for andrew because of the competitor thing?

R: YES

H: that was the only reason?

R: the only reason, THE ONLY REASON because because brendon and I came into this game, we were like, we talked about it as soon as we became friends, before we were even making out, we talked about it and we were like we do not, and we talked about it with a whole bunch of ppl! not just me and brendon! we were likewe don't want ppl who don't fight to go to the end becauseit sucks, sucks! we (big sigh) even talked about ppl we saw throw competitions, they need to be the first ones to go, we talked about ppl we saw fighting to be here need to stay and we even talked about and I even said I would rather have someone hard competiting against me take me out to go instead of someone that just took me out because they didn't like me or someone took me out that was just floating around and just got lucky...and so (big sigh) I mean we have said so many times to so many ppl that we are here to play a game and win and to play a game more than anything and we don't want to play the game with ppl that aren' there to play a game like that is not my end goal like I don't want to have a jury house, like I don't want to have a five person house with ppl that aren't here to play the game! I want ppl here who want to play the game! Like personally, for me, I want it to be a challange, It is a challenge I don't want it to be a bunch of ppl that are just floaters or just give it to me or I win it by default what fun is that? I mean anything that is worth winning Hayden is worth like fighting for and working hard, and I mean I feel brendon and i have proved that like we fight so hard to be together and we fight so hard to be here and that is what we want sooooo bad we want that so badly that we like fight so hard to be here and like I am shocked to have won this thing especially how I had to go up every other one (big sigh)

H: I agree, no questions about that I agree

R: so, I mean, I jsut I don't know

H: well so...(hayden tries to speak but rachel interrupts, he continues but rachel gets louder over him so he shuts up)

R: and honestly, Kristin was never my target (again, reference back to previous statements she has made, kristin was her target) either, I never wanted Kristin to go home, I liked kristin plenty

H: K, so if kristin is obviously now your target

R: well, it's not even target, I don't know what I am going to do because I am going to play this game how I always wanted to play this game and yeah,kristin and I just had that blowout and hey maybe it was good that we did because honestly I have been feeling bad about her all week and maybe that is what I needed to do. Maybe I need to get it out, get rid of it, get it in the open but I don't want to compete against ppl who aren't here to compete and it drives me crazy...

H: let me ask you this...

R: (plowing through again): it drives me crazy how someone can sit up in a room with me when I am hoh I mean, I shouldn't evn be saying this, but it drives me crazy that ppl can just sit around, lay around, hang out, when other ppl are playing

H: let me ask you this then...if you put me and Kris up and Kris wins POV, who would you put up in her place?

R: I have no idea

H: woould you put up a floater or would you put up a non floater?

R: no, I would 100% put up someone that I think is floating and I would for 100% not even think she would win POV over you...and if you let her win POV...

H: I am not going to let her win POV cuz I want to stay in this house

R: That would be stupid

H: Cuz I know...

R: Interrupts him yet again: cuz this is the last week and who ever goes home this week doesn't get to be in the jury

H: Like, remember when you told me that if you win POV you would pull me? well, if I win POV I am using it on myself

R: yeah and that is smart, but honestly, when you are 24 years old hayden, and maybe this is stupid, but when you are 24 years old, I doubt that you and Kristin would ever get married and be together forever, I mean no offense

H (seems to be laughing the that ridiculous comment): no, I am not here for a relationship or

R: Exactly! I mean, I wasn't either

H: well, you guys's case is different, you have a lot of stuff going on. Me, I am 24 years old, I have had a lot of relationships in the past...I....I'm going to say that I want to have a good time, I want to have fun with what I am doing here, in my own personal life, I mean, I want to have fun, I am not looking for a relationship, at this point and I mean it will come when it comes, and when I meet the right girl, and then it will come. I mean, I am not saying...that Kristin is....whatever, I think Kristin is great , I like Kristin, our personality is weird

R: I was friends with Kristin until, she....

H: I like Kristin, I like, I like her. I mean, she is cool, she has a lot to offer. She is not high maintenance, she can be funny, she has a lot of good charateristics and I do, i like her. But I am not, it's not like you and Brendon..

R: NOooo! Like, I am in love with Brendon

H: Yeah, so..

R: and maybe that seems stupid but like honestly you can never predict who you are going to meet, when you are going to meet them and that you are going to have this crazy connection and we do! I mean, we are the same person, literally, the same person and...

Brit interrupts them and asks if they have anything black in color that they would like to put in the wash she takes some items and leaves

H: I didnt' want to influence what you want to do, I just wanted to apologize to you

R: Well, everyone has to try to influence what I do because I am HOH and everyone is going to come up and lie to me (laughs)

H: well, that is it and I have told you from day one judge ppl on how differently they treat you and have I treated you differently ever?

R: Nope, you haven't and I appreciate that Hayden. You have never treated me differently.

(hayden began moving towards the door once Brit was in the room and now appears to finally be getting a chance to exit)

H: and again, I am sorry for saying things that I didn't mean

r: and I am sorry for saying things I didn't mean and you can tell Kristin I am sorry too, i am not going to apologize to her right now because I don't think it is smart if her and I talk right now but you can tell her I did say I was sorry and I would like to talk to her and apologize to her and you can let her know that she was never my target until she targeted me and put me up against every single person1

H: (rachel's back is turned to him and he just starts laughing)

R: But I mean, she was never my target until she said she was going to put me up, me and brendon up, when someone says that I am going to be pissed (rachel is walking out the door as she says this and Hayden is behind her. He just starts laughing again and says ohhhh kkkkk under his breathe) they both walk out.

This took a long time to write out so sorry about any spelling mistakes. There are a few more interesting convo's from last night, if anyone has a special request, let me know and I will see what I can do

R (very flippant) I know
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Topic #13934584
SouthernBelladonna - All the Hgs are awake. Ragan and Rach are still talking in HOH. Ragan is giving her advice... 0 Replies #13934584 9:45AM 30/07/2010
...about giving people the benefit of the doubt when things are said. Rach is agreeing and is not as upset now. They hug. Ragan talking about a point in his life when he had trouble controlling his emotions and how he developed strategies to communicate better.

The other feed is on the jumanji room. Enzo, Bren talking about movies. Brit, Lane, and Matt are there too.

Feed changes to bathroom - Kathy, Kris and Hay are there. Hay called to the DR. Kath is hugging Kris who is crying. Kath telling her to not let it get the best of her. Kris asks Kath not to tell anyone she was crying. Kath says she's proud of her. Kris says she upset because "I don't want to see any of us go." Kath agrees "It don't seem right. It don't seem fair."
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Topic #13934589
caylashae - Kristen is crying in the bathroom and Kathy is consoling her. NT 0 Replies #13934589 9:45AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13934699
SouthernBelladonna - Rach tells Ragan that she really likes Matt and doesn't want him to go home. 0 Replies #13934699 9:51AM 30/07/2010
She says she likes her and Bren, Ragan, Matt, and Brit and thinks she will be safe with them. She wants to do something (as HOH) that will be good for all of them.
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Topic #13934821
SouthernBelladonna - Rach tells Ragan that she's thinking about going after floaters. She mentions Lane and Kathy. 0 Replies #13934821 10:01AM 30/07/2010
She thinks they threw the surfboard HOH. She thinks Kris threw it too.
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Topic #13934969
SouthernBelladonna - Bren joins Rach and Ragan in HOH. They are talking about how they are glad they have each other. 0 Replies #13934969 10:11AM 30/07/2010
How awful it would be to be alone in the house. Rach telling Ragan she's glad to have him there...he helps her a lot...Bren saying he's glad for both of them because they know so much about the game.

Ragan now advising them to talk to Matt, but to do it separately from him.
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Topic #13934993
Gratefulvw - Ragan, brend, and rach talk about what order Rachel should call ppl up to HOH in to see where they stand NT 0 Replies #13934993 10:13AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13935022
SouthernBelladonna - Ragan hugs R/B and leaves HOH. Rach asks him to ask Hay to come up. 0 Replies #13935022 10:15AM 30/07/2010
Bren says "final 3" to Ragan. After Ragan leaves, Rach asks him to "please don't say that."
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Topic #13935037
Gratefulvw - Rachel says "I am going to go grab Hayden. I asked them if I should start calling ppl into my room, but they said no because they are doing the 0 Replies #13935037 10:17AM 30/07/2010
competition early"

Ragan goes does to grab Hayden, and gives each bren and rach a hug. Brendon says "we don't know where we would be without you in this game. and then says final three"

Ragan leaves and Rachel immediately scolds brendon and says "don't say that!" Don't say final three!!!
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Topic #13935049
SouthernBelladonna - Rach tells Hay she really likes him and she doesn't want to put him on the block. 0 Replies #13935049 10:18AM 30/07/2010
"not today, not tomorrow, not next week"

She credits him with saving her the 1st week...doesn't know where the falling out came from...thought they had a deal.
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Topic #13935166
SouthernBelladonna - Hay making the case thatanyone would have put R/B against each other in the HOH comp and he... 0 Replies #13935166 10:26AM 30/07/2010
...would have on been on the outs with the house.

Rach telling him that she doesn't see him as a target because he hangs out with Kris...she knows they have a bond. Bren says he wants to put aside personal stuff and play. He asks Hay what he wants.

H: Honestly, the 2 of you in the jury house would be great for me.
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Topic #13935197
SouthernBelladonna - Ragan has joined Kath and Kris. Kris thanks him for talking to Rach. NT 0 Replies #13935197 10:28AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13935240
SouthernBelladonna - Rach/Bren still pumping Hay for info. Rach wants to know who has said they would put R/B up. NT 0 Replies #13935240 10:31AM 30/07/2010
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Topic #13935374
Gratefulvw - Rachel is encouraging Hayden to throw ppl under the bus 0 Replies #13935374 10:37AM 30/07/2010
Hayden "I don't want to throw anyone under the bus"

Rahcel "well, I think you should because I promise you that I will not say anything"

Hayden throw out who he said they may put up, several different scenero's...Hay vs Kris, Lane Vs Kris, Kris vs Brit, possibly even Hay vs Lane...all scenero's are exact scenero's that Bren and Rach have said.

Hayden the recalls a story that Brendon said he was going to put up a strong couple that fell off the surfboards early.....(it was Enzo told Brendon told)

Hayden say directly to Brendon,"you don't remember saying that, don't recall"

Brendon is playing stupid, saying he doesnt' know what he is talking about or understand what he meant by two ppl by falling off early....

Hayden says it again, reiterates and asks Bren again point blank "you never said anything like that"

Bren says point blank, NO! and yet he some how comes to the conclusion that Hayden was talking about Enzo. He says specifically "I am not going to lie, I talked to Enzo about people falling early or throwing the comp, but I never said that" Hayden is still doubtful of what Bren is saying, but says that if he hears anything like that again, he will come straight to them.

Rach and Bren then say that they will be talking to everyone and seeing where they stand today, and they both say anyone that says they are playing for what the house wants isn't playing the game
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Topic #13935392
SouthernBelladonna - Hay says he heard from a "he" that Bren was coming after a couple that dropped early in that HOH. 0 Replies #13935392 10:38AM 30/07/2010
They want him to name names, but he keeps moving around it and not answering...
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Topic #13935502
SouthernBelladonna - R/B continue to push for names. Hay asks if they really don't remember saying they were going after... 0 Replies #13935502 10:46AM 30/07/2010
...a strong couple that dropped. Bren saying he didn't.

Rach called to the DR.

Bren/Hay continue to talk...Bren saying someone may have heard something and misconstrued it. Hay asking Bren who he doesn't trust. Bren says that is open-ended and difficult to answer.
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