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Topic #14009407
WillRulz - Feeds return. Ragan is in the storage room... 0 Replies #14009407 8:41AM 03/08/2010
On the couches, Enzo and Lane laugh and joke with a sleeping Brit.

Lane: I am going to cut my ***** today.

Enzo wants to drain the hot tub.

Lane: How do you empty a hot tub?

They kid about siphoning it with a hose.

Ragan joins the group and sits beside Brit.

No greetings. No chatter. Just yawns and minutes of total, utter silence.
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Topic #14009455
Queen - Rachel up, tells Brendon (still in bed) she's gotta go change her batteries. Rachel going in to put her contacts in. NT 0 Replies #14009455 8:47AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14009468
Queen - Rachel walks downstairs, starts making coffee. NT 0 Replies #14009468 8:48AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14009475
WillRulz - In the HOH room Rachel tells Brandon... 0 Replies #14009475 8:50AM 03/08/2010
...she is waking up to go to the bathroom and change her batteries. She puts her contacts on. Brendon remains in bed. When she comes back into the bedroom, Brendon asks her if she could start the coffee. She confirms she will.

Putting on a sweater and socks, Rachel heads downstairs.

Big Brother: Ragan, please go to the Diary Room.
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Topic #14009479
Queen - BB calls Ragen to DR. Hayden and Britney passed out in BY on couch/chair. NT 0 Replies #14009479 8:50AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14009486
WillRulz - BB: Kathy, Kristen, have you changed your batteries? NT 0 Replies #14009486 8:50AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14009537
Queen - Hayden has gotten up and went to lay (vs. sleeping upright) by Enzo in BY. Rachel comes out and ask something (I think if they want omlettes), 0 Replies #14009537 8:57AM 03/08/2010
they say yes. She chuckles and says she will let them know when theyre ready. She walks off and one of the two mumble, "fu**en drunk". The other laughs.
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Topic #14009542
WillRulz - Hayden and Enzo sleep on a huge lounge chair in the backyard... 0 Replies #14009542 8:57AM 03/08/2010
As Rachel walks by, they ask her to call them when breakfast is ready. When she is gone, they joke about her being drunk last night but love her omelettes.

Rachel starts cooking in the kitchen. Brendon joins her.

They debate how long it takes to cook turkey and regular bacon.

Bubbles - FOTH.
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Topic #14009605
WillRulz - Lane and Matt joke about Kathy and Kristen not waking up and angering Big Brother... 0 Replies #14009605 9:07AM 03/08/2010
Kathy enters the room.

Lane: You have gone downhill this week. What are you doing today?

Lane and Kathy talk about how they drink and smoke. They would spend more time with each other if they took on each other's vices.

Matt quit in his 20's.

They chat about how nice breakfast smells.

Lane is still hungover and would rather not smell the bacon.

Lane jokes that if Big Brother made pool the HOH competition for this week, he would win hands down.

Lane: Love birds. Baking bacon together.
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Topic #14009776
spotworks - Kristen is still wearing her leotard brushing her teeth.. 0 Replies #14009776 9:31AM 03/08/2010
Does anyone know when she gets to take it off? Yesterday she mentioned that she hopes she doesn't have to wear it to the live show on Thursday.
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Topic #14010423
Willstheman - Ragan is getting close to figuring out the brigade NT 0 Replies #14010423 10:37AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14010470
Denise - Ragan has made some observations when talking to Kristen, he wants to talk to Rachel 0 Replies #14010470 10:40AM 03/08/2010
they go up to HOH

Ragan: talking about how awesome and complex this season is and everything is all over the map, he's making observations as to who is hanging out with who (Ragan might be on to the Brigade) he says he doesn't think there are outright alliances where people are saying final 2 or final 3, but he thinks little groups are overlapping, and going into Thurs people better start thinking that people are going to have to make decisions, and some of the larger groups you have to be observant as to who goes with who

Rachel: I don't think people are making decisions at all, they're just waiting to see who's HOH

Ragan: there's a really tangled web and you have to look at people who are loyal to who the HOH is, the groups that you observe in the house who is likely to go HOH HOH HOH, the winner of the competition is what pushes loyalty and it's something that seriously has to be taken into consideration this week, what I would encourage was who hangs out with who, and to be observant as to who the pairs and 3's are in this game, and that's the key in my mind this week

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Topic #14010584
katerade - Ragan talking to rachel and kristen in HOH .... 0 Replies #14010584 10:47AM 03/08/2010
ragan saying he will be vague. explaining that this season is different because there are no huge alliances or "sides". normally when someone wins HOH half the house is sad and half the house jumps up and down. everyone is in small pairs or groups of 3.

he says this is the most important vote of the season. he says they have to vote with logic and not emotion. they have to think of where people will gravitate or "fall" after this vote is over. he has been thinking alot this past day putting together his observations of who hangs out with who.

Rach - doesnt think anyone is making decisions, everyone leaves it up to the HOH

Rag - there comes a point where theres only people who like each other. he talks about people being loyal to the HOH. he tells them to watch who hangs out with who and who the pairs and threes are. you cant play a game unless you know where the peices are on the board. he restsates that the vote this week is very big.

he reminds them that its not just individuals winning HOH, its all about who is with each other, who is loyal to each other, what the groups and pairs are. its not an individual game.

Rach -tries to clarify; so its most important to watch out who might be in a 3 or a 2, rather than who might be coming after you directly?

Rag - says they need to always think about "what next". every time someone leaves the game board changes. he says kristen and hayden were a strong pair, and thats why they are up. (rach interjects and says its more about how she cant trust kristen). he says one of K/H is going home. What happens to the person who is staying? where is that person going to fall? he says hes not talking offence (new alliance) but hes talking about defense. is there a natural fit for the person who stays?

Rach - so you thnk keeping hayden is more dangerous.

Rag - he says hes not putting his name to that statement. he says to just watch for the next few days.

Rach - so hayden could align with hayden or enzo, where as kristen could stay and she has fewer people

rag - i've only seen you (kristen) hang out with hayden and maybe kathy. where does hayden fall?

rach - everyone.

rag - spend the next few days observing.

rach - asks if they think theres lifelong friends in the house. she says that the lifelong friends played a role in her decisions this week.

rag and kristen both say that they thought andrew was part of the lifelong friends.
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Topic #14010600
Denise - Ragan says this vote is incredibly important this week 0 Replies #14010600 10:49AM 03/08/2010
and please let's just keep this to ourselves, I expect you to share this with Brendon

Rachel: so I gather what you're saying is to watch who is going to be in the 3 and the 2

Ragan: I'm saying this week someone is going to leave someone is going to stay, when someone leaves the game board changes and things shift, Hayden and Kristen are a strong pair in the house and that's why they're up

Rachel: Hayden and Kristen are actively going against me

Ragan: 1 of them is going home, where does the person who stays go, I'm talking defense, I'm talking about where does the person who stays, where do they fall, where do they fit

Rachel: without saying it, you think Hayden is more dangerous to stay then Kristen, Hayden could align with Lane and Enzo

Ragan: to Kristen he says you hang out with Hayden and Kathy, where does Hayden fall, he tells Rachel to observe the next couple of days

Rachel: wonders if there are lifelong friends in the house, and says they'll never to loyal to their alliance, and that decision weighed heavily on me

Ragan: I think Andrew was 1 of the lifelong friends

Kristen: I thought that too

Rachel: with who

Kristen: I have no idea

Ragan: regardless I can't base my, when Matt put up Kathy I said you have to take into consideration what if Kathy won HOH and Matt said I can't base my game on whether or not Kathy won HOH

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Topic #14010698
Denise - Rachel says she won't share with Bredon that Ragan wants Kristen to stay 0 Replies #14010698 10:54AM 03/08/2010
Ragan: silence.............this decision for me is not who I like more or who I spend time with, this decision for me is what happens next, that's all it is to me, who can I see burning through this game and I don't mean 1 person

Rachel: you mean pairs and triplets

Ragan: you know that there are people, including you Kristen who are holding back, I don't really feel comfortable saying more then I already have, I just say you have to make observations as to what happens next, who right now, when winning HOH or POV back to back, you don't need a social game at that point, if people are holding back and then making a run for it, who is poised to make that run to the end, I'll tell you something, you and Brendon have done great at the beginning of this game, but I don't think you'll make it to the end, but there are people poised to do it, and I've not overheard a conversation, this is just my observation

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Topic #14010830
Willstheman - Matt talking to brit about his fake wife disease NT 0 Replies #14010830 11:00AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14010835
Denise - Ragan says the game pieces on the boards are 2 and 3's 0 Replies #14010835 11:01AM 03/08/2010
Rachel: no 1 wants to be a 3 or 4 with me and Brendon

Ragan: people can sit back and wait to be picked off, the thing that is getting me, is sometimes I feel like I've been making decisions in this game that have benefited other people and not me

Rachel: you need to do what's best with you

Rachel: Kristen, I haven't told anyone how to vote and I never said you were my target, and I think you're going to come after me

Kristen: you don't think Hayden will

Rachel: I think he will but I think you're smarter and more manipulative then Hayden

Kristen: In this game I don't think with emotion or falling outs and Hayden may make more irrational decisions then me

Rachel: Hayden came to me and Brendon and said he wouldn't go after us, I told Brendon I didn't think it was smart to make any deals with Hayden yet

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Topic #14010941
Denise - Ragan says this is just his observations 0 Replies #14010941 11:09AM 03/08/2010
and it is what it is, I don't think people are saying 2 and 3 to the end, and people are going to get f'ed over, people go to where the power is and that's what determines the loyalty, so somebody says they have your back and not come after you, they don't have to if they're in a strong group, the more I think of this vote the more I want to pull my hair out

Rachel: you also don't want to leave a group of men in the house for your game

Ragan: stand outside and just watch

Kristen: I hang out with the same people

Rachel: do you think that's a mistake you made

Kristin: ?

Rachel: I think I played my cards too soon

Ragan: (making card analogies) to make observations about the game in the next few days, if you're not going to make these observations then go home

Rachel: If I didn't have Brendon in this game with these guys then I'd of gone home

Ragan: every person in this house is in a pair or 3's, this is a huge vote that I've ever witnessed in the BB game

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Topic #14010995
katerade - Ragan, rachel and kristen in HOH cont..... 0 Replies #14010995 11:12AM 03/08/2010
rag - says he cant base his decisions on the fact that theres lifelong friends in the house. that assumption could screw up your game more.

Rach - says she wont share it with brendon that he wants kristen to stay.

rag - (looooooooong pause) this decision isnt about who i like more, its about what happens next. who do i see burning through this game?

rach - you mean pairs and triplets?

rag - yup

rach - do you think they have the mental abilities?

kris/rag - yes

rag - you both know people have been holding back. the girls agree. he doesnt want to say anymore, he just wants the girls to think about what will happen next week with HOH. he says the social game doesnt matter. what if some people are holding back and they are waiting for the right time to make a run of it? who is poised in their group to make a run to the end?

he says B/R have done really well, but he doesnt think they will make it to the end. he thinks there are other people who are better positioned, if they decide to take it. hes not saying the people know how to take advantage of their position, but hes telling them to just look at the position people are in. he says there are people who will benefit this week.

rach - agrees about her and brendon. she knows they are going to get broken up. she says they need to fight so hard the whole game and keep winning to stay till the end. she says its almost impossible.

rag - the game pieces on the board are 2s and 3s.

rach - no one wants to be a 3 with me and brendon.

rag - its not a question of want. people can sit back and wait to be picked off....
the thing thats getting him is that hes been making decisions in the game which are benefitting others more than himself. he says that this week is different.

rach - says to kristen that she hasent told anyone where to vote. she says she thinks kristen that she thinks K will come after.

Kristen - dont you think hayden will as well? whats the difference between me and hayden?

rach - i think you (K) are way more dangerous that hayden. you are smarter and more manipulative. she doesnt think hayden thinks about decisions.

K - shes not going to come after them just to do it

rach - says hayden came to brendon that he wants to make another deal not to go after each other. she told brendon that she thinks its a bad idea because hayden is scared and doesnt want to go home, and she doesnt trust him. she says that kristen is dangerous for her game because K can control other people's decisions.

Kristen - says she is more upfront and lays her cards on the table. she says theres more unknowns with hayden. we're both going to be weaker without the other. but like ragan said, down the line, you have to thin of who is going to gravitate to who.

ragan - i dont think its down the line, i think its already happening.

rach - i dont know who would be the vote changer. i dont want to bully people. you know you have kathy, and ragan....

ragan interjects - i'm not making up my mind until wednesday evening. says they have to consider who is poised to make a run of the competitions, because that determines the loyalty, not who likes who more. says this is the type of convo that everyone should be having. (the girls say "they aren't") ragan says, well, i dont know.

rach - asks if ragan thinks its dangerous to leave all men in the house?

rag - for my game and alot of other peopls game. says a group of 3 is scarier than a group of 2. people are focusing on pairs.

rach - asks who hes talking about

rag - says hes not naming names, but tells rach just to watch outside who people talk to.

rach - i think i payed my cards too soon in this game. i had no other option because my back was against the wall.

rag - says the game changes after this. one of kristen and hayden is going home. the pick 2 game exposed people's hands, but now that hand is played. its over. theres a new hand now. says they need to watch people.

rach - if i didnt have brendon here, if i had to compete with these guys, i would be the first one out.

rag - says its not just the guys. everyone in this game is in pairs or a 3, which all overlap and interchange. he says that people wont neccessarly be voting with their pair or 3 this week, and he thinks that makes tihs a crazy season.

he says that if you have a pair, you have to think of which threes are left in the game. says hes only having this convo with the 2 of them. not matt, not anyone else. he doesnt want his name bring brought up about this convo. he doesnt go out on a limb often in this game and he fels he is now. hes as far out on the limb as hes willing to go. says it should leave this circle (except brendon he says).

he says to kristen that she has an uphill battle, but there are people who are voting who need to take some things into consideration that they may not be. the person who stays is going to have to fall somewhere, and you should be able to tell where people are going to fall. he tells rach to hang out outside for the entire day, and just look.

brendon comes in.



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Topic #14011033
Denise - Ragan says I'm being straight up now and my word means something and I'm only having this conversation with the 2 of you 0 Replies #14011033 11:15AM 03/08/2010
and I won't even talk to Matt about it, I'm going out on a limb with this, but that's as far as I'm willing to go, this conversation shouldn't leave this circle, and take my observations and mix them with your observations, there are people who are voting who should take things into considerations that they're not

Silence

Ragan: the person who stays is going to fall somewhere and you should be able to tell from observations, and if that idea isn't concrete in your head then just hang outside for the entire day and just look

Here's comes Brendon into the HOH and the conversation ceases

Ragan: I'm not pointing a finger at anybody, nobody is being sinister in this game and they're being overt, it's about 2's and 3's in the rest of the game

Brendon: I don't mind you finishing your conversation

Kristen: we were almost finished anyway

Silence

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Topic #14011520
definiteangel - Rachel/Brendon in HOH discussing Ragan, Kathy/Kristen laying in CR NT 0 Replies #14011520 11:48AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14011551
definiteangel - Rach: "We need to have Ragn think he is on our side" NT 0 Replies #14011551 11:50AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14011592
definiteangel - Bren: "Britney's smart enough to know not to trust Kristen" NT 0 Replies #14011592 11:52AM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14012085
savjoz - Rachel knows America did something this week. So does Regan NT 0 Replies #14012085 12:22PM 03/08/2010
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Topic #14012094
savjoz - Rachel and Brandon are going over what comps were this week in other seasons. NT 0 Replies #14012094 12:22PM 03/08/2010
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