they are in the have not room talking this was yesterday at 12:59 pm
J we need to think about everything from the beginning to now
R yeah
J and we can do pros and cons and no matter who we get rid of the other is protected, she is protected on both sides if we keep adam and get rid of shelly he is protected on both sides.
J I talked to him in the pool and i told him after everything we did for you, you dont want to work with us? He said that everybody said all the newbies were going to stick together to get the vets out. And we were going to work together but things changed because of the twist. she (S) keeps
J ...we have to set aside personal and start thinking game. because you cant keep throwing in family and she was talking about her family and everything and i was like oh my god. and then you feel bad but we have to think..we know we are targets if you wouldnt have won that veto you would be going home and i may go home next week.
Rachel has been saying i know mmhmm and agreeing with her while she was talking.
R and the same thing for the final 4 and the final 3 porshe and kalia are not taking any of us to the final 2
j i know porsche and adam have a thing because whenever after all that happened when i was upset the next day i talked to kalia and she goes we didnt realize how much adam was with you guys. we always thought adam was kinda of like with us. so that was....
j the way shelly acted in the hoh comp towards p like come on win it..and i said this to shelly last night, you wanted me to lose. She says shelly said that jordan was looking at her when shelly did the hoh comp and jordan says no i looked away. i didnt want to watch her. that was one thing i thought was weird.
jordan is telling rachel about what she talked with shelly about 2 am
the other night
j shelly said she was with all of us since week 1 and shelly said that...i assumed she meant all the veterans...and shelly said that we promised her we would not put her up and then we did put her up with cassie that week. i told her but you were safe it was to get rid of cassie.Shelly said i know what you were doing but you guys said you wouldnt put me up
J and now her whole mood has changed she is so nice to us. its like at the nominations with porsche, i dont know if we can trust her i feel like porsche kept telling shelly, i am so sorry shelly i am so sorry. (i think j may be talking about the couples pairing up its hard to tell she is jumping around alot)
j because when dani left she told kalia and porsche they have to stick togther p/k are for sure a final two deal and they are going to carry adam or shelly to final 3. i think they will take her over him, me and you are their targets for sure. its a bad situation that we are targets but we got to think, if we did win hoh and we got rid of kalia or porsche we will need the person we keep this week. we have to think about who we have a better chance of going against in the finals
j they both arent good at comps. and i told adam what sucks is adam you have been carried this whole time and you have been protected on both sides but we need to hear adams story first. the things about adam is you read his expressions. He lied to me out there he said yeah yeah i will work with you but then he said no we decided to stick together. We might have a better chance to stick with him knowing in this next hoh we could beat him. but
r but whose to say adam is not going to step up his game
like he has not done bad in the comps he has needed to win. that one against jeff he got the same score as jeff **in the cornhole he won it when he needed to**
j shelly could be flopping too adam cant do endurance
thats the main thing in the final 3
r but we dont know what kind of endurance what if its swinging
j those things are this big making about 8 inch circle with her hands, we are girls (meaning they can fit on a smaller circle)shelly is this big making a small circle with her fingers.
j adam of course he is going to try but every endurance he has fallen off
i think if lets say if we were
r but shelly knows everything about the game
j adam does too
r dani told them before she left about the final 2 deal and that shelly and adam have been working together since week 1.
j shelly told us in there that they hadnt
r i know and dani told me that and i know dani lies about everything but why would she lie about that
j adam even said that they worked together because the whole plan was me you shelly adam jeff. shelly was like jeff was calling all the shots,
j but that was because we needed like a leader we got to hear adams side and see what he says
r thinks the next hoh comp will be a puzzle with numbers or matchups names to something. just speed intelligence and strategy we have to win it or im going home
j shelly said she promised she would throw the hoh but that doesnt matter she is protected by k/p and then who knows, we can ask k/p and they can easily lie to us
r the thing is they could have told shelly to come tell us that so if she stays and she is really with them. because she could be doing that 100%
j before the comp kalia told shelly nice and slow take your time i could see them in the mirror
r when fast forward was going on it was k/s/p adam had nothing to do with the desicion, adam didnt say anything about keeping jeff. they went in to the other room both times to decide what to do. and shelly and porche knew adam voted. i think adam threw both this last hoh and the last veto.
j i think so too
r because he knew he was protected
j i think that adam was more (seems to mean upset) but shelly was happy when porsche won
r i told you shelly was more excited and when p got the snake eye against you shelly was like (super happy) thats why i said to shelly when we talked to her a few minutes ago would you listen to me if i was the one in jeopardy of going home?
j i think that shelly has been..because me and jeff were protecting you...when we started protecting you...(she seems to say shelly was upset her and jeff were protecting racel)...your smart you knew it you came to tell us when you thought she was doing stuff remeber when dani..you would come up and tell us the same things we were thinking so you know whats up..and when i think about it over and over i feel bad but i think we think that it was shelly the one doing it. I cant trust her
r what sucks is we need a vote next week if we dont win
j but she could easily lie
r your right she could pull a ronnie
j right that last minute and if they came down with you and p on the block she would vote me out.
r of course she would vote me out over anybody
j she keeps saying she is with them to final 2 but i think she wants to make it to 3. because she thinks she can win something in 3 and if she goes to the jury. i bet she thinks she can win it.
j i bet if shelly gets to the end she would win
r not the whole game
j she has all the newbies and dani
and shelly she wont like listen she is very paranoid. her and adaam are both being alot nicer to us since the veto. but i feel like adam more so right before the veto... where you in the living room?...he goes good luck.
r then to me he said i told him adam if i win the veto you are good and he was like yeah thank you i appreciate that but i have to go out there and fight i have to try and i said i wouldnt expect anything less from you
j and before we were going out there well i did see p talking to adam, but we know they are working together.
r if they won the veto then they would be great and next week they are going to try to make a final four deal with us
j did kalia say something
r she said we want to talk to you too. next week they are going to get rid of one of us if we dont win.
j well they are going to say that but we just agree to it and then put them up. i think shelly is a really good talker. thats what helps her you feel like you can trust her. i feel like afer everything
r i never trusted her
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