- 3 stooges and Jun in HOH ........so far mainly discussing - Aug 13 2003 01:14, Wed |
- Now they are talking about competitions and if someone is coming - Aug 13 2003 01:17, Wed |
- Robert yelling" I can't wait to get out of this hole'! NT - Aug 13 2003 01:18, Wed |
- Now they are talking telling Jack he is safe for another week, then - Aug 13 2003 01:20, Wed |
- Roberts therory on why Erika is still there, is because she is the - Aug 13 2003 01:21, Wed |
- Now they are talking about making Jack get on his knees to them..... - Aug 13 2003 01:22, Wed |
- He opens the door, and Jee says not to do it... - Aug 13 2003 01:25, Wed |
- Jee is talking about being a good man to his women and he calls the other Ho bags.... - Aug 13 2003 01:30, Wed |
- 3 stooges left hoh....Jun is still in there, Erika asks where she is and they - Aug 13 2003 01:33, Wed |
- Stooges in HOH - Ratbert wants to make Jack squeal and beg to stay. - Aug 13 2003 01:34, Wed |
- Sorry, I was on Word when I typed this and with that program open and Real Player it was taxing my system,forgot to log back in but I posted this. NT - Aug 13 2003 01:41, Wed |
- Now everyone but Erika and Jack are in the kitchen, fixing stuff to eat NT - Aug 13 2003 01:36, Wed |
- Changed to Jack and Erika........Jack yawns, and then says to the - Aug 13 2003 01:38, Wed |
- Earlier Justin comes into the HOH and say's "Ali F*cked up my nails" look at em. - Aug 13 2003 01:40, Wed |
- Ali and Erika talking on couch, how they have a family......Jack is the dad - Aug 13 2003 01:43, Wed |
- Also earlier in the HOH: Jun teases Justin saying that Dana told her he ate her (p###y). At first he denied it and then said yeah I did in the - Aug 13 2003 01:44, Wed |
- 3 stooges went outside to eat their food, Nate is there too........lots of Mmmmmmm - Aug 13 2003 01:50, Wed |
- Justin is telling the others there is more beer in the SR. Nate says - Aug 13 2003 01:50, Wed |
- Living room 1:40 AM to 2:00 AM BB Time - Jack, Erika, Jun & Ali in the LR - Aug 13 2003 02:00, Wed |
- Now that they made their sandwiches the boys move outside to chow - Aug 13 2003 02:01, Wed |
- Jun tells Jack and Erika about them wanting Jack to grovel - Aug 13 2003 02:03, Wed |
- I just want to clarify that they could tell Jee was bothered by Robert wanting to make Jack get on his knees NT - Aug 13 2003 02:13, Wed |
- Justin implies to Erica that HoH competitions are fixed - Aug 13 2003 02:20, Wed |
- Justin on who will go - Aug 13 2003 02:25, Wed |
- Erica gives a quick briefing to Jack on her convo with Justin - Aug 13 2003 02:26, Wed |
- Justin and Erika in the love room with the doors closed - Aug 13 2003 02:30, Wed |
- Jack and Justin in the HOH - Aug 13 2003 02:36, Wed |
- Justin and Jack talk (long) - Aug 13 2003 02:40, Wed |
- Jun talks to Jee alone in the HOH - Aug 13 2003 02:47, Wed |
- Jack and Justin talk continued - Aug 13 2003 02:48, Wed |
- Justin and Jack still in the HOH - Aug 13 2003 02:51, Wed |
- As meeting breaks up, Justin tells Jack "don't sweat it" - Aug 13 2003 02:52, Wed |
- Ali comes in to the HOH get the scoop - Aug 13 2003 02:59, Wed |
- Ali: What did he (Jack) say about me. - Aug 13 2003 03:01, Wed |
- Justin: "I honestly feel they (BB) wanted me to win HoH" - Aug 13 2003 03:03, Wed |
- Jee Ali and Justin in HOH - Aug 13 2003 03:06, Wed |
- Ali pulls against Nathan - Aug 13 2003 03:07, Wed |
- The convo switches to sex talk - Aug 13 2003 03:13, Wed |
- Ali says it "sucks for me" that Nate is leaving, she tells Jee - Aug 13 2003 03:13, Wed |
- Justin says if Jack or Erica get HoH, it's "touche" that he's nominated NT - Aug 13 2003 03:17, Wed |
- Just to get a visual. Jee is in the chair Ali is lying on the bed sideways and Justin put a pillow - Aug 13 2003 03:17, Wed |
- Jee leaves Ali and Justin still in HOH - Aug 13 2003 03:23, Wed |
- Jee: Donnie's a "f*ckin' bitch psycho" - Aug 13 2003 03:27, Wed |
- Talking about relationships - Aug 13 2003 03:28, Wed |
- HOH - Aug 13 2003 03:28, Wed |
- Ali gets up to leave after Jee spills about how he feels about Jun Great girl just screwy - Aug 13 2003 03:36, Wed |
- only activity is jack/erika in sand box and ali/justin/jee in HOH - Aug 13 2003 03:41, Wed |
- Jee and Justin doing the mutual admiration society. - Aug 13 2003 03:42, Wed |
- sand box, jack asleep, erika on her side face away from cam - Aug 13 2003 03:44, Wed |
- Four Feeds - Hamsters finally falling asleep. NT - Aug 13 2003 03:44, Wed |
- scanning the feeds: F1 jack, F2 erika, F3 jee, F4 full moon/mars NT - Aug 13 2003 06:11, Wed |
- F1-Jack; F2-Erika; F3-Jee; F4-Ali?(buried under blanket) All sleeping 8:16 BBT NT - Aug 13 2003 09:16, Wed |
- See post below, only difference - it's 10:06 BBT NT - Aug 13 2003 11:06, Wed |
- The earlybirds, Jack & Jun are up NT - Aug 13 2003 11:15, Wed |
- F1: No movement fro ER, F2: Jack making coffee, F3: Jun doing her make-up in the hall mirror, F4: Ju soaking up the last of his HOH rest NT - Aug 13 2003 11:17, Wed |
- F1-Ali brushing teeth; F2-ditto, different angle; F3-jun cooking; F4-sleeping beauty justin awaking from his slumber NT - Aug 13 2003 11:29, Wed |
- F1&2: lovely toilet flush by Ali F3: Ja&Jun in the kitch F4: Jee up to his ears in comforter NT - Aug 13 2003 11:30, Wed |
- Rise & shine: Jun,Js,Ja,Ali,Na,Ro are all seen wandering around and now... FOTH NT - Aug 13 2003 11:37, Wed |
- Ali snuggles into a red blanket on the LR sofa. She's staring out into space then FOTH NT - Aug 13 2003 11:37, Wed |
- FOTH over All HG have been spotted except: Jee & Erika NT - Aug 13 2003 11:41, Wed |
- jun complaining about nat - Aug 13 2003 11:43, Wed |
- Everone is moving about the house. Je says he had a dream last night - Aug 13 2003 11:51, Wed |
- It was Jun who asked him. NT - Aug 13 2003 12:01, Wed |
- Er has finally made an appearance in her pink J.Lo hat NT - Aug 13 2003 11:53, Wed |
- BB announces outdoor lockdown - Aug 13 2003 11:59, Wed |
- note: annoucement is that the lockdown is over NT - Aug 13 2003 12:00, Wed |
- They are all outside with the shades pulled down as per BB's request! Jee said he - Aug 13 2003 12:03, Wed |
- Ro & Nat on the couch - Aug 13 2003 11:59, Wed |
- Nat asks Rob where do you live?Rob says his street is Mayberry off of Sunset Blvd..Nat says so your where all the action is..Rob says yeah.. NT - Aug 13 2003 12:01, Wed |
- FOTH NT - Aug 13 2003 12:06, Wed |
- In the BY: Jee, Ro, Ju sitting in chairs by dryer. Er & Ja sitting @ the table near the wall NT - Aug 13 2003 12:11, Wed |
- HG in BY: barely any conversation NT - Aug 13 2003 12:20, Wed |
- FOTH over. Jee, Jus & er playing cards NT - Aug 13 2003 12:44, Wed |
- Lockdown is over. NT - Aug 13 2003 13:12, Wed |
- Almost complete silence for past hour - - Aug 13 2003 13:22, Wed |
- FOTH again...but got glimpse of backyard - Aug 13 2003 13:33, Wed |
- Nate in HoH talking to 3 Stooges - Aug 13 2003 13:44, Wed |
- After FOTH, we get 4 whole feeds of TORTOISES NT - Aug 13 2003 13:45, Wed |
- When we returned from FOTH this time, we get turtles on all 4 feeds NT - Aug 13 2003 13:45, Wed |
- And I think the sound is turned off on the feeds NT - Aug 13 2003 13:47, Wed |
- Feeds come back and HG are discussing what type of 'casual' clothes they should wear for the competition NT - Aug 13 2003 14:00, Wed |
- turtles gone LR talking about what they are gonna wear tonight.... - Aug 13 2003 14:00, Wed |
- HGs are told how to dress for tonight - Aug 13 2003 14:00, Wed |
- junzilla in kitchen............. - Aug 13 2003 14:01, Wed |
- junzilla 'i fing hate wearing tennis shoes - its not good for my image'.... - Aug 13 2003 14:03, Wed |
- Jun is cutting watermelon in the kitchen, the rest of the HG's - Aug 13 2003 14:06, Wed |
- HG are discussing that they don't think they can go outside anymore, and someone should ask in the D.R. NT - Aug 13 2003 14:09, Wed |
- Feed just showed of people in back yard setting up for HOH NT - Aug 13 2003 14:18, Wed |
- strange group of young people standing outside for a brief moment, then FOTH!! NT - Aug 13 2003 14:18, Wed |
- Feeds on Turtles..BUT we can hear Jun talking in the DR about HoH. She says she is a little nervous, and then FoTH NT - Aug 13 2003 14:20, Wed |
- Feeds show turtles but can hear voice of Er saying how nervous she is about - Aug 13 2003 14:21, Wed |
- that's Jun saying she's nervous about hoh and not knowing how vote will go, then FOTH NT - Aug 13 2003 14:22, Wed |
- The other voice heard was one of the handlers b/c Jun was in the DR when she was talking. NT - Aug 13 2003 14:26, Wed |
- Correction, maybe it was Jun, not Er NT - Aug 13 2003 14:23, Wed |
- all feeds are now FOTH. They must be in BY for HOH comp NT - Aug 13 2003 14:30, Wed |
- Jun's convo in DR . .partial - Aug 13 2003 14:48, Wed |
- feeds back rat and jee talking in loveroom NT - Aug 13 2003 15:05, Wed |
- Feeds are back. Jee and Robert are in the HOH room whispering. NT - Aug 13 2003 15:06, Wed |
- Jee is vacuuming. NT - Aug 13 2003 15:08, Wed |
- Most HG in LR playing Old Maid. Rob fixing snack, Je still vacuming NT - Aug 13 2003 15:10, Wed |
- Justin, Ali, Jun and Nate are playing Old Maid. Jack and Erika are sitting at either end of the couches watching in silence. NT - Aug 13 2003 15:10, Wed |
- Rob is all alone in the bathroom. He's picking at his nose and face like crazy NT - Aug 13 2003 15:14, Wed |
- Ja remembers playing Old Maid back in the 40's and 50's and how everyone giggled when they got the Old Maid NT - Aug 13 2003 15:19, Wed |
- Erika retreats to the sand room wrapped up in her blue blanket. NT - Aug 13 2003 15:20, Wed |
- Er goes to lay down in Sand Box. She swallows some pills or something with a drink of water NT - Aug 13 2003 15:21, Wed |
- Jack and Erika are in the sand room. They look defeated. - Aug 13 2003 15:28, Wed |
- Ja & Er in sandbox - Aug 13 2003 15:28, Wed |
- "Jack, please go to the DR" NT - Aug 13 2003 15:30, Wed |
- more Ja & Er - Aug 13 2003 15:32, Wed |
- Ali's going to take a nap before the live show - Aug 13 2003 15:34, Wed |
- Ali retreats to take a nap. Ask if someone, anyone will wake her if she's not up by 4. Ro mumbles yeah NT - Aug 13 2003 15:34, Wed |
- Rob is sitting in a kitchen chair, arms crossed, staring into space. NT - Aug 13 2003 15:36, Wed |
- Stooges plus Jun discussing the HOH comp - Aug 13 2003 15:38, Wed |
- Justin and Jee are in the LR playing cards. Rob sits nearby twitching and looking around. NT - Aug 13 2003 15:44, Wed |
- Jun comments that BB will shut off internet tonite so we wont know who won endurance hoh comp at 4am.....NOT!!! NT - Aug 13 2003 16:03, Wed |
- As Ratbert picks his face some more, he comments he has a good feeling about winning hoh tonite...also mentioned erika hasnt danced in 10yrs - Aug 13 2003 16:10, Wed |
- More on competition . . . . - Aug 13 2003 16:22, Wed |
- Nat & Ali in orange room - Aug 13 2003 16:33, Wed |
- Nat wants Ali to give him a sympathy vote, but Ali hasn't agreed. She changes the subject and says she doesn't think he's going NT - Aug 13 2003 16:35, Wed |
- When the feeds came back briefly a bit ago, Jee and Robert where sitting in the LR and Jee whispered to Ratbert.. - Aug 13 2003 17:54, Wed |
- nate reading psalm 125 to erika and jack - Aug 13 2003 18:09, Wed |
- Erica and Jack in their beds, Erica goes and asks Nate if he will come inside and read a passage from the Bible to them he does then leaves "Oh - Aug 13 2003 18:10, Wed |
- Ali is putting makeup on Robert NT - Aug 13 2003 18:15, Wed |
- Ali just finished applying Robert's face make up NT - Aug 13 2003 18:15, Wed |
- Earlier after Nat read bible and left...Jack & Erika in BR..Erika asked Ja if they offered him $20,000 to leave would he and he said... - Aug 13 2003 18:24, Wed |
- Ali and Justin whispering and BB keeps going to FOTH NT - Aug 13 2003 18:30, Wed |
- Ali asked if she could give a sympathy vote NT - Aug 13 2003 18:55, Wed |
- Jack wishes Erika - Aug 13 2003 18:48, Wed |
- FOTH until after the show..... NT - Aug 13 2003 18:51, Wed |
- spoiler - Aug 13 2003 19:39, Wed |
- spoiler - Aug 13 2003 19:54, Wed |
- cages are: - Aug 13 2003 20:17, Wed |
- And we are back to the Cage match. NT - Aug 13 2003 20:03, Wed |
- Erika: "this cage is perfect for my height. i can actually just stand there and lodge myself in" NT - Aug 13 2003 20:15, Wed |
- Some cage stuff. - Aug 13 2003 20:17, Wed |
- Erika saying that she is just the right height for the first cage she can wedge her head in the ceiling - Aug 13 2003 20:17, Wed |
- Jee asks about having to pee. Jack says go ahead and pee, Allie freaks - Aug 13 2003 20:18, Wed |
- she also brought up smell of Justin's shorts and Justin said "can you give it a rest?" NT - Aug 13 2003 20:21, Wed |
- Ali saying that she can see the whole cage toppling over with all of them in it - Aug 13 2003 20:20, Wed |
- Jun "I bet Arnold has one of these (cages) at home." NT - Aug 13 2003 20:20, Wed |
- Ali saying with 30 minutes - anyone willing to make a deal? NT - Aug 13 2003 20:22, Wed |
- ali: anyone willing to deal? - Aug 13 2003 20:24, Wed |
- Jun - Justin go and find out the time. It's like we have been in here an hour - Aug 13 2003 20:25, Wed |
- more cage...PART 2 - Aug 13 2003 20:28, Wed |
- Now they are looking at the sky It looks like rain. Ali is droning on about what happens if lightning hits then - Aug 13 2003 20:33, Wed |
- CAGE PART 3! MARVEL! - Aug 13 2003 20:35, Wed |
- Cage part 4. Shorter as they've stopped talking. - Aug 13 2003 20:40, Wed |
- Ali "this is survivor sh#t. it's not big brother sh#t" NT - Aug 13 2003 20:41, Wed |
- no one has dropped out and no one has moved to the next cage. nothing has changed since end of show NT - Aug 13 2003 20:41, Wed |
- Ali saying this is Survivor sheet not BB sheet. - Aug 13 2003 20:42, Wed |
- CAGE MATCH! PART 5. - Aug 13 2003 20:49, Wed |
- correction: jun said imagine being stuck in the cage with Scott.. they were imitating Scott saying mantroll NT - Aug 13 2003 21:02, Wed |
- **All Joker's Users: Please Read** - Aug 13 2003 20:56, Wed |
- Jack: "Erika, you're a pilates instructor. you could stay in here forever. " Erika "and a ballerina" NT - Aug 13 2003 20:57, Wed |
- jack to erika "you got enough room" erika "yep" then FOTH NT - Aug 13 2003 21:00, Wed |
- Justin calls out - 1 hour. Jun says that's all. - Aug 13 2003 21:04, Wed |
- justin went in SR - Aug 13 2003 21:08, Wed |
- junzilla 'i'm hungry' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NT - Aug 13 2003 21:10, Wed |
- justin asks if they have complaints - Aug 13 2003 21:12, Wed |
- jun: i can smell it now - Aug 13 2003 21:13, Wed |
- many trays of food on kitchen counter and justin comes out to tempt the caged with rotisserie chicken. no takers NT - Aug 13 2003 21:12, Wed |
- Justin asks what has been your biggest complaint - Aug 13 2003 21:14, Wed |
- HGs relatively quiet. some lite chatter. no new bribes. all going strong NT - Aug 13 2003 21:28, Wed |
- Justin - 1 1/2 hours - Aug 13 2003 21:35, Wed |
- They are all still in the first cage - Aug 13 2003 21:44, Wed |
- The HGs have gone 2 hours without anyone eliminated from the steel cage match. Justin is in hammock watching. NT - Aug 13 2003 21:50, Wed |
- Be Quiet, I'm trying to sleep.-Justin / I hope a bird poops on you! - June? NT - Aug 13 2003 22:00, Wed |
- Ali complaining (for at least the third time) about how Julie mentioned her having a bedmate on national tv.. NT - Aug 13 2003 22:17, Wed |
- 2 hours and 19 minutes into hoh comp and nothing has changed from the start. all still inside initial cage. no real convo re: game NT - Aug 13 2003 22:17, Wed |
- Ali: I will never ever put my dog in another cage ever again - Aug 13 2003 22:18, Wed |
- 2 hours 20 minutes Jun telling Justin that she just mini peed. He says do you want me to get you a paper towel - Aug 13 2003 22:23, Wed |
- Jun has just asked for a cup to pee in. Actually, she - Aug 13 2003 22:24, Wed |
- Jun complaining she has to pee...Justin's reaction? - Aug 13 2003 22:24, Wed |
- Justin goes to the HT and turns on the Bubbles. - Aug 13 2003 22:25, Wed |
- Jus is now in the spa. NT - Aug 13 2003 22:25, Wed |
- Feed 2 is black screen, having technical problems. NT - Aug 13 2003 22:29, Wed |
- Everyone is trying to - Aug 13 2003 22:35, Wed |
- I have NO audio,feed 2 is black out, ja and rob seem to be holding it well,ali and jun - Aug 13 2003 22:35, Wed |
- Returning from short FOTH, Erika says Camera broken. (did they hear us all asking about feed 2?) NT - Aug 13 2003 22:45, Wed |
- Was FOTH then Erika calling Justin. You need to get out of the HT and dry off - Aug 13 2003 22:48, Wed |
- After another brief FOTH, Erika yells over to Justin he has to get out of HT and dry off, they need him to fix a camera NT - Aug 13 2003 22:48, Wed |
- Jun really has to pee She is wearing a jumpsuit - Aug 13 2003 23:01, Wed |
- Ali says someone get out of the damn cage. - Aug 13 2003 23:05, Wed |
- BB:HG this is a reminder that tomorrow is the food competition - Aug 13 2003 23:11, Wed |
- Jack telling Jun she is the only safe one in the house - Aug 13 2003 23:16, Wed |
- Jun just peed...used Jack's shirt to cover herself...ended up peeing on it by accident, but Jack put it back on anyway. NT - Aug 13 2003 23:18, Wed |
- Jun successful pees and Ali is yelling OMG OMG. Jun hands Jack his shirt back. - Aug 13 2003 23:18, Wed |
- Jun uses Jack's shirt to cover her while she peed in the cage. NT - Aug 13 2003 23:18, Wed |
- Jack lends Jun his shirt to cover herself as she pees. Unfortunately, - Aug 13 2003 23:19, Wed |
- 3.5 hours and hamsters are still in cages. feed 2 is out NT - Aug 13 2003 23:23, Wed |
- Justin: alli's gonna pop a squat!! NT - Aug 13 2003 23:39, Wed |
- Justin goes inside to take a shower. Jun: This is pathetic, the most we have to look forward to is Justin getting out of the shower! NT - Aug 13 2003 23:49, Wed |
- Various tidbits as time goes by with everyone in the cage. - Aug 13 2003 23:52, Wed |
- Alli squats and Justin says: Pot on the spot..lol NT - Aug 13 2003 23:58, Wed |
- And so it goes as they are in the cage... - Aug 14 2003 00:02, Thu |
- Justin opens up the locked box near the cage. - Aug 14 2003 00:03, Thu |
- Jun: I am not cut out for this @#$% - Aug 14 2003 00:07, Thu |
- Ali is now doing a Jun (relieving herself). NT - Aug 14 2003 00:12, Thu |
- (singing) Ali's got to pee...la,la, la and comment about performance anxiety. Cheering her on. NT - Aug 14 2003 00:14, Thu |
- Jack is going to give Ali his shirt now so she can pee. - Aug 14 2003 00:16, Thu |
- And more as they pass the four hour mark...Alie pees. - Aug 14 2003 00:16, Thu |
- Jack lends Ali his shirt... - Aug 14 2003 00:16, Thu |
- Allison" guys it's just pee... Jack: I am drying it out (his shirt) NT - Aug 14 2003 00:17, Thu |
- Justin: BB can i hose down the piss? Can I hose down the urine? NT - Aug 14 2003 00:21, Thu |
- Robert is out!! NT - Aug 14 2003 00:21, Thu |
- Back after FOTH and Alie's peeing....... ROBERT LEAVES! - Aug 14 2003 00:22, Thu |
- And ROB is leaving!! (I have a f**king headache. NT - Aug 14 2003 00:22, Thu |
- Robert suddenly says "I am outta here" and the cage is unlocked. FOTH NT - Aug 14 2003 00:22, Thu |
- Afterwards Ali feels so much better. Jun says I told you so. - Aug 14 2003 00:23, Thu |
- Robert heads to the bathroom. Immediately washes his hands, then goes to the potty room. - Aug 14 2003 00:24, Thu |
- Will Jee leave? Jack says everybody in this cage is safe. Jee, though, will stay in. NT - Aug 14 2003 00:26, Thu |
- Erika - Your pee smells girl. Ali - I am a healthy girl. - Aug 14 2003 00:30, Thu |
- Erika: I 'm revitalized now that Robert's out. Anyone wanna make out? NT - Aug 14 2003 00:31, Thu |
- Robert to Justin inside: F*ck, it is not looking good. But Jee is strong. - Aug 14 2003 00:32, Thu |
- Jun leaves. Eri/Jac/Jee/Ali move on to second cage. NT - Aug 14 2003 00:34, Thu |
- Jun is out!!! NT - Aug 14 2003 00:34, Thu |
- After Robert leaves - Aug 14 2003 00:35, Thu |
- Justin: I don't even want to go out there. R: I just want to pump Jee up. JUN LEFT! - Aug 14 2003 00:37, Thu |
- The pills he took were actually 3-4 Advil, not specifically for migranes. NT - Aug 14 2003 00:39, Thu |
- Jun comes out of the house back to the cage - Aug 14 2003 00:39, Thu |
- Erika looks happy. Jack gives her a rub on the elbow for support. - Aug 14 2003 00:39, Thu |
- Justin the ever sensitive guy sits beside Robert who is nursing a migraine - Aug 14 2003 00:42, Thu |
- Justin announces that it's coming up to 5 hours in the cage. - Aug 14 2003 00:43, Thu |
- Alie rests on Jee. Jack says, "You're a good man, Jee." - Aug 14 2003 00:43, Thu |
- Utter silence. Justin and Robert aren't looking too happy, Jun is slurping ice cream, the cage people are looking tired and determined. NT - Aug 14 2003 00:44, Thu |
- Jun goes into the kitchen grabs some food. and a drink note have not seen her wash her hands - Aug 14 2003 00:49, Thu |
- Jun: You really couldn't stand it? R: I can't stand it now! I'm feel like I'm f*cking...kill...what you think I threw it? - Aug 14 2003 00:56, Thu |
- Erika giving Jack a mini massage in the small of his back. - Aug 14 2003 00:57, Thu |
- R: Erika is going to squeak right through, but it doesn't matter, she just can't win...She won't have the votes, we'll see to it. - Aug 14 2003 00:59, Thu |