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Topic #5833386
Fidel - Jen: I was like "don't put it on the other people, put it on... 0 Replies #5833386 2:13PM 14/07/2007
Daniele or Evil and then I'm totally fine. Like, that's all I'm asking" But I did it in kind of a, you know, straight up way because that's how I do it and that's how I take it in and I realize that Amber is an emo-- is very like, you know, anything like-- I don't know, you know how she is. So I should've considered that and worded it differently for her and I didn't and that's my bad.

Dustin: No, I think you approached that whole situation was-- it was how you wanted to handle the situation.

Jen: Yeah, that's my power is that I can put someone else and I have to put someone else up now. So...

Dustin: No, I mean you were very straightforward in saying, like, you know, "This is a decision that I'm going to make and I'm just letting you know these are my expectations of this competition. And..."

Jen: Right.

Dustin: I respect that.

Jen: Well, then Daniele and Evil obviously were expecting their help and were freaked out, you know? Both of them were, like, Daniele was equally yelling as Evil. I mean, not as loud because she's quieter, but she was like, "I can't believe you did that, you're threatening everyone with their friends and..." well *scoffs* Just not to help you! I mean, obviously they would be upset by it.
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Topic #5833470
SouthernBelladonna - More HOH talk 0 Replies #5833470 2:18PM 14/07/2007
Jen thinks Nick would put her up. Zach says he knows Nick won't...he can promise that.

Jen also thinks Dani, Ed and Amber will put her up.

Zach says that Dani doesn't have as much control over Nick as she believes.

Jen asks who he would put up if he got HOH next week. He says it would depend on who goes...that he wouldn't want Joe or Dani on the jury.

Zach is pushing for Joe to go up...says that Dani and Joe are powerful together. If your remove someone who isn't part of their friendship, it makes the game harder...harder for people to come to Jen's side.

Jen thinks there are a lot of people who wouldn't put each other up.

Zach says he wouldn't put up, Nick, Mike, Kail, Jen...and maybe Dustin. dustin could be useful.

Jen back to debating on Joe...says putting him up would go with her previous reasoning (people causing trouble in the house)

Zach still messing around with chess pieces.

Jen laughing that all her strategy talks will be of her in that suit.
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Topic #5833474
AmyFromCanaduh - Zach and Jen talk in HOH 0 Replies #5833474 2:18PM 14/07/2007
Jen: I dont think people who don't feel threatened by me would put me up.

Zach: I know Nick would not put you up. You can trust me with that. I know he has more problems then that.

Jen: I think with Daniele here, he would put me up.

Zach: I don't think Daniele has as much influence on Nick as she believes.

Jen asks who he'd put up if he was HOH next week. Zach says he knows there's people he'd like to see go home (Daniele, Joe) so they're not on the jury. Jen adds Evil to the list.

Zach: I keep thinking.. and this could get my in trouble..

He says Joe is sneaky and powerful with the stories he tells. Says something about Daniele.

Jen: theres a large connection of people who wouldnt put the other people up.. whether they're aligned or not. Dustin and amber, amber and nick, nick and daniele, nick and Zach...

Jen guesses who he wouldnt put up next week if he was HOH - her, Nick, Mike, Jessica

Zach says Kail, Nick, Mike, her.. maybe not Dustin because he's a good person to keep in the game if Joe were not to leave.

Jen: everyone will be happy if I put up Joe and he went home.. and be happy with me..

Zach says he forgot about Erik and is using the chess peices..
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Topic #5833476
Zazny - Z: Daniele and Joe are powerful together 0 Replies #5833476 2:18PM 14/07/2007
Z: Joe is powerful with the stories he tells. Dani is sneaky. If you remove someone who isn't in that friendship with those two, you're making it harder for everybody who could potentially side with you.
J: But there is a conglomerate of people who wouldn't put each other up even if they are not aligned. Amber, Daniele, Dustin, Nick, you, Jameka. Dustin is close to Amber who is close to Amber who is close to Nick, who is close to you.
Z: There are only five I wouldn't put up if I won HOH
J: Me, Jessica, Mike, Nick?
Z: Based on people I like not they play. I wouldn't put up you, Mike, Kail, Nick, and I might not put up Dustin. He'd be a nice person to keep the game if Joe were not to leave. Joe scares the ***** out of me cause...
J: Here's the thing about Joe. Everybody would be happy if I put him up and he'd go. They'd be like haha what a dumbass. It works with my reasoning over the negativity of the house. He did get out first in the veto...and every single thing. He is a manipulator and he is in close to Daniele.
Z: I forgot about Eric [in his diagram. He contemplates hard on where to place him]
J: I love they are going to get all my strategic talks and I'm in [her red costume] alll the time. They will have a million conversations of me in one week. At least everyone knows I am stuck in it...if Joe goes up he is going home, right?
Z: I am sorry, one second [still contemplating his diagram]
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Topic #5833540
Zazny - Jen is a knight 0 Replies #5833540 2:21PM 14/07/2007
On Zach's diagram using the chessboard.

J: I'm a horse? I thought Eric was a horse.
Z: There's a lot of horses
J: You like the horse! Does that mean I can jump over people in a L-formation? That's awesome

Cameras switch before he can start talking about his secret
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Topic #5833558
SouthernBelladonna - Feeds switch to Amber and kail chained together walking into the kitchen. 0 Replies #5833558 2:22PM 14/07/2007
Jam is there. They get slop and sit down to eat.

Small talk...nothing much going on.
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Topic #5833640
SouthernBelladonna - Zach and Jen in HOH again... 0 Replies #5833640 2:27PM 14/07/2007
Zach explaining his chess layout...showing the connections between people.

Eric is with Dani...Jess is Joe's lapdog...Nick doesn't have power...Eric isn't with Dick...Nick isn't with Dick...If Joe left, lots of people would be floating and need friends.

(ed. my fingers are killing me...I'm done updating for a while...hope someone gets all this)
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Topic #5833643
Zazny - Zach is showing Jen his theories on the relationships in the house 0 Replies #5833643 2:28PM 14/07/2007
I believe he is showing her that if Daniele was gone a huge relationship is fractured as she connects two sides of the house, so he is showing her that Joe is the next best choice.

He is explaining that Dustin has a relationship with Jameka and Amber, etc. He has a cluster of pieces on the board. He says removing Nick isolates their cluster.

J: He's with Daniele, Dick, and Amber
Z: I don't think he is with Dick
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Topic #5833722
Zazny - Zach says that Joe is hesitant to use his slop pass 0 Replies #5833722 2:32PM 14/07/2007
Zach says to stick it to him, let him forget his slop pass, then put him up, and then evict him.

Jen keeps bringing it back to Nick. "Why wouldn't he put me up?"

J: He'd put up Eric and Mike [her friends in the house, which is just as bad she says]
Zach basically says Jen is a waste of non.
J: He told me he is throwing it until the end. I know he's lying. That's why I am bothered.
Z: He might put me up. I can't read him too well, to be honest, but I don't think he will put you up. That would be too easy, unless he will play with his tail between his legs and go the easy way out.

Jen: If Daniele was gone, it'd go back to "us 3" instead of being like that. I love Kail, but I got her as a default, youknowwhatimean?
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Topic #5833774
Zazny - Zach says he might put up Jessica and Daniele with Jessica as a pawn 0 Replies #5833774 2:36PM 14/07/2007
He would put Dani against someone he is sure would go
J: There is no "sure" [you can't use a pawn]
...
Z: I can't read Evel [would he vote against his daughter?]
J: He would never vote against his daughter
Z: Really? 100%?
J: He said it. He said she'd hate him for the rest of his life and the world will hate him.
Z: Then I might put them up.
J: That's why I did it. If I didn't put him up, then obviously, Evel, Amber, Dustin all those people would be for her. There is no reason to bother.
Z: With Joe gone a lot of the deception and the way people will choose to vote will be gone
J: Less gray area
Z: stuff taken out of context
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Topic #5833803
Zazny - Zach says he might be up next week against Jen and he might go 0 Replies #5833803 2:38PM 14/07/2007
Z: People underestimate you. Every one knows you are the easy way out
J: Why not go after someone who matters
Z: Erika had a free ride all the way down.
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Topic #5833868
Disneyisme - In the kitchen Amber is telling Dick, Jess, Kail and Dani that Jen said 0 Replies #5833868 2:43PM 14/07/2007
to her "I want you to know that I want the nominations to stay the same and if they don't I will go after the veto players or the people I know have alliances." Amber says "So like Dustin?" Jen told her "Yes, because you guys are so close." Amber says how stressed out she is..."this is supposed to fun, it's pressure and I don't need that (starting to whine a bit).
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Topic #5833908
Disneyisme - Amber is talking again about how upset and stressed she is. Her whole thing with 0 Replies #5833908 2:46PM 14/07/2007
Jen and Jen telling her to keep nominations the same and threaten her. Amber goes on and on..."I tried to cover my eyes with glasses, Nick saw me and asked me what was wrong...I told him I couldn't take the pressure any more. I love Dick and I think the world of Dani etc........"

Dick says I would have picked Jessica to play..Jess says "really?" Dick says "Well I thought it was a competition that you wouldn't be good at and Dani and I really need to be the ones to win."
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Topic #5833970
Disneyisme - Jameka said something about one of them being the 'mushroom' queen. 0 Replies #5833970 2:51PM 14/07/2007
Dick of course, says mushrooms? Jam says the "mushroom spinning competition." Dick says "Ooohh, I thought you were talking about the psychadelics here..." Then talk turns to Alice in Wonderland and Dick explains about Alice getting really small after biting a mushroom then took another bite and got real tall.

Dick goes on to say that the guy that wrote the book was on LSD. Kail says 'really? Wow drugs do pay off.'

Dick goes on to explain how many musicians and other talented artists that died from over doses from those drugs and shooting up. he goes on about Guns and Roses and before he names any more bands, he says "I better not say so I don't get in trouble later."
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Topic #5834002
Disneyisme - Dick says he has always taught his kids that moderation is key in life. 0 Replies #5834002 2:54PM 14/07/2007
He says "yes, you can do drugs one time and die..I hate how the government lumps marijuana in with cocaine, crystal meth and other drugs. It's BS....I think marijuana should be legal, plain and simple."
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Topic #5834061
Disneyisme - Dick is saying he wsa busted with dope on him and in his car. 2 Replies #5834061 2:58PM 14/07/2007
He says the cops were cool, they laughed a little. He went to court and that was that. He says "I never carried very much, my friends did though."

He talks about heading to Hollywood with 2 or 3 kinds of drugs on him and hang out with some friends. He says it's a great way to make friends.

He goes back to the dope story saying the cops were impressed with the size of the joints they found, big fat ones. He says one of the cops said "dude, I can smell that stuff from here, is that stuff red hair indica?" Dick says "I said dude, I haven't heard of that stuff since high school, it's chronic."

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rosiebbfan - Dick is giving out pot prices #5834166 3:05PM 14/07/2007
says he pays $450 an ounce. Seriously?
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Disneyisme - Dick goes on to say that the day he went to court, it was #5834103 3:01PM 14/07/2007
bring your daughter to work day at the Beverly Hills Court. He says "so the judge and the DA had their daughters there and it was so weird!" He says the DA said "I will drop the charges if you attend a drug program." Dick says "I told the DA are you f'ing kidding me? Drug rehab for smoking a joint?" Apparently the judge and DA were laughing and the DA offered Dick to pay a fine. Dick says he agreed and that would still be cheaper than going to drug rehab.
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Topic #5834141
Disneyisme - The outside is now available to them. Everyone is escited and Jen comes downstairs and says 0 Replies #5834141 3:03PM 14/07/2007
"wow, that was a fast clean up!"

Amber and Kail are at the table in the kitchen..some of the others head outside.
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Topic #5834161
Disneyisme - Uh oh, Dick is telling Jen how stupid she is (outside). He tells her 0 Replies #5834161 3:05PM 14/07/2007
"you could have used this to your benefit, but instead you made yourself more of a target. I was trying to explain to you that by leaving me off the block..." Jen interrupts and says "I would have looked stupid if I left you off."
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Topic #5834182
Zazny - Dick tells Jen she played it stupid and made herself more of a target 0 Replies #5834182 3:06PM 14/07/2007
Jen said she would be stupid not to put him up.

She says she knows he's staying

D: I don't care if you go home tomorrow or in a few weeks, but you're probably going in the next 2 weeks.

He says he is pissed off about the 9 gallons in the teacup. STILL. and says the people on the Internet are going out of their minds.

D: Don't kid yourself. You're making things way worse for yourself. You cannot be as simplistic and one-dimensional as you come off. I knew if you won it I was on the block.
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Topic #5834206
Zazny - Dick says to Jen he does not think anybody else has ever threatened people like that with the veto nominees NT 0 Replies #5834206 3:08PM 14/07/2007
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Topic #5834230
Disneyisme - Jen tells Dick "Just so you know I put you on the block because 0 Replies #5834230 3:09PM 14/07/2007
I knew you would stay. I prequalified that, just to let you know." Dick says "you don't know who is going or what's going on." She says "You are staying, I guarantee you.." Dick: "Bull sh**."

Jen says "How stupid would I look if I didn't put you up? Just evaluate that; especially when you yelled at me." Dick says "I knew I was going home anyway... everyone is like 'why are you yelling at her before she has done the nominations?' I said I know I am going up so I don't give a s***."

He goes on to tell her that she has done so much to piss people off and that everything is always about her. She says "I know, other people have told me that." Dick tells her how much BS it was that she won HOH over a stupid question about the 9 f'n gallons in the tea cup.
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Topic #5834334
Zazny - D: If you had any clue at all you'd see our (Dick/Dani) relationship here 0 Replies #5834334 3:14PM 14/07/2007
Dick: Don't you think it would be easier for me without her here?
Jen: That's why I nominated the both of you
D: Put someone else against here
J: Nobody else would have gone. People told me how it was.
D: Why would you tell people they are going on the block beforehand if POV is used. That's stupid strategy
J: I was just saying that
D: Talking to people -- and I am not going to reveal my cards here -- and saying if they're going up if anybody comes off...
J: Joe?
Dick talks about Amber and keeps talking.
D: You have two hardcore enemies coming after you. You have also the [veto people you threatened]

D: I have not had any outbursts with anyone but you. Everything I say to you people agree with. Every single person up there came to me and said you deserve it. I feel you are oblivious.
J: I don't need to be rude, I am just straight forward
D: I've bit my ***** tounge...that b.s you pulled on the first food comp, I went to everyone in the house and told them you didn't want me touching me.
J: It was about you smoked right before
D: It made you look like a complete ass. You did nothing but set yourself up. You needed to win HOH and you did, good for you. If both people up come back you're *****.
J: I know that
D: Then why be here? Why not leave? You think your alliance...
J: I don't have any alliance
D: Why are you here?
J: To have the experience, meet new people.
D: I guarantee your experience won't be good. You'll be the one who everyone loves to hate. This show is revolving around you and me.
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Topic #5834346
Disneyisme - Dick is telling Jen that it's likely he and Dani will be staying and now 0 Replies #5834346 3:15PM 14/07/2007
"you have two hardcore people on your ass." She says she knows, she knew they would both stay (she acts as though that was her plan) and she says she knows she is a target. Jen says "whoever I put up there as a replacement is going home." Dick says "your little speech that I have caused trouble with everyone was BS..." She says "I said you make trouble in front of everyone not with everyone." He just keeps pounding her that she is rude...she says "I know..." (LOL!) Dick is getting more worked up that she isn't getting what he is saying. He goes on and on...she is agreeing with him and all of the things she has done and said. He is getting angry that Jen will not give in and provide any reasons or escuses for her behaviour.
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Topic #5834414
Zazny - Dick says he has hated people more than he hates Jen and treated them better. He says he is trying to knock her off her game by acting how he did NT 0 Replies #5834414 3:18PM 14/07/2007
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Topic #5834535
Zazny - Dick says he worked harder than anyone else to get on the show 0 Replies #5834535 3:23PM 14/07/2007


D: I really wanted to be here. I want to stay here. I want to be here. And have a pretty decent relationship with most in this house
J: Evel, just so you know, you would not want to vote for Daniele. I didn't want to make you look bad. I went through numbers. I figured you were the only one that could beat Daniele.
...
D: My outbursts with you have probably cost me in some people's eyes. People look at me and say 'he's being who he is.' You're ***** up big time. You know you are.

Dick says she alienated herself. He says that Jen should come down and stay and eat dinner with the house even if she doesn't want to eat, even if it is just a banana.

D: Those goofy shirts of yours ain't helping your case either
J: I don't have any more clothes! I get a shirt taken everyday! All I have is dresses, bikinis, and a couple shirts
D: You don't think that would hurt you?
J: I was bored in the hotel and had iron on letters, I tried to make "Happy Birthday Dad," etc. and I peeled off all those letters.

Dick says she hung around Carol just because of the first comp about Alison last season.

Dick says he hated how people treated Carol when she was nominated. He says Dani said "I hate feeling like I have the Black Plague."
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