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memyselfandi - boogie and dani in BY chatting about Marc, Diane-Nak week, Jase, Kaysar, cg (long and i added stuff so now it's super long) |
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#3445592 11:24AM 23/07/2006 |
Boogie says her getting out Marc is great because it gets rid of her nemesis kind of like Erika.
Dani says she didn't come into the house with that plan and only recently did she think about it after hearing things he said. She wanted to put the past behind them.
dani says the stuff marc said about her on house calls... the man called me vile. i'm not saying i was a saint, but i accepted that. i made apologies. i moved on with myself. but when someone continues to call me vile... wow.
dani says marc was playing that game just as mean and nasty as she was. he's a hypocrite. for you to call me vile and you wished an old man to die of a stroke, then you're a hypocrite.
dani: i honestly did not talk about him getting nominated.
Boogie says she's in a good position and getting that little cancer out would really help her.
B: he's the one who's most erratic. the one who can trust the least because he is so desperate.
Boogie says this is the most logical time to send him home. B thinks people are afraid to nominate him becuase of his diva antics.
D: He's always terrible when he's up. My mom called it because you always see his true colors when he's up.
Boogie says it oozes out of him the jealousy, even though you didn't win, but he may not win this but he still wants to be able to say he took danielle home. he brings up that night at the hot tub that they got into it over how bb3 went down.
D says it was marc's erratic behavior that cost him final 3. he probably would have won the whole thing. i spoke in metaphors with marcellas so if a metaphor gets back to me then i know he's been talking. dani caught roddy telling her a metaphor she had used and after that she knew marcellas was selling her out. after that she knews he was able to flop at any time.
Boogie says James has carried over this thing about backdooring from last season that he doesn't understand.
B: He has this pride thing, what that has to do with the price of tea in china I have no idea.
Boogie shows Dani he has no idea that the S6 would keep Will over him if both of them were on the block and keeps blathering abotu what he tried to convince them about how Will doesn't want to be there.
Boogie thinks people would be afraid to take out Kaysar because he's so popular. Dani: that's too bad.
If James was up against Kaysar I don't want to see James go, I like james a lot...
Dani: I told him when he's talking about nominations I told him not to mess with chicken man.
boogie: the thing is if for whatever reason, if he feels it's in his best interest to appease people i think they think jase is more with will and i than we are together.
dani says jase has never had any game conversations with anyone.
boogie says the problem is when jase is hanging around them they get the impression they're together.
dani: you might have to bring his name up
b: i didn't want to...
dani: you're gonna have to.
B says if Will goes he doesn't want it to be the Mike and Jase show.
Dani: Make sure that you make that clear. Because a lot of people have that misconception.
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Dani says when you have a strong alliance you find out who they want to keep and you do the opposite.
Boogie: that was a nice flip last week.
Dani rehashes Diane vs. Nakomis drama and manages to get in another dig in Marcellas claiming he didn't actually promise Diane a vote.
Dani: When Diane was nominated, most of the time when people are nominated they're kind of weak, they start lying like Alison or they speak the truth...
Dani says she went to Diane and had a talk. First of all I need to knwo why you didn't vote to keep me in teh house. She goes and says Alison is a big target and she'd keep lying. Dani said that was a valid point.
Then she asked about Mr and Mrs Smith.
Dani says she and Jase did have a conversation they'd work together talking on the phone, but she said remember on Season 5...
Dani: I said so you guys had the discussion.
Dani says she could tell Diane was lying because she gave a really long answer. You give away too much info and she knew what she was saying was BS.
Dani: I think they had the discussion. Possibly they didn't talk about it anymore. But neither of you said it's not gonna work.
B: I guarantee you Jase is in the diary room hamming it up on that thing.
D: I told him the night before voting... I put it up and his eyes got so big and he stayed up that night.
They say the best alliances you could possibly have is with people who hate you from your past season. That's why B and will wanted nicole in all stars.
B: I do think that there is something there.
Dani: That's the other thing. When I was about to get nominated and I knew about Mr and Mrs Smith and I said you don't have any alliances about him and he said no and I stared at him and I smirked.
Marc comes back up.
Dani says if you have the Marcellas conversation you have to specify with James and Kaysar that this is a conversation between the two of them and not Janelle.
Dani says you have to say "I'm coming to you as a man..." and play up honesty and integrity with Kaysar. If you present it to him as honesty and integrity then he will respect you as a player. Remind them that there can only be one winner.
B: And between the 14 of us. Same thing.
Dani: The way I feel about Kaysar is I'm being honest with you, I'm going to do what's best for me. I'm not going to go back and forth or anything like that.
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d: OH janelle was upstairs and she said maybe you can convince chicken george not to use the veto. I said BB3 danielle is not here.
d: Don't mess with the chicken man.
They say this money is life-changing for george. He's living out of state to send home money to the family.
b: this is the last hurrah.
d: wait til america's choice. he's gonna get it.
B: especially after tuesday's episode.
Dani says she told the DR that george was still clucking around and was laughing about it.
B says it's almost to the point where you want to see George win HOH. Just good tv. Not that he wants James to go up but...
Dani says even when you nominate someone you don't have to make it ugly. It's all about delivery. you can call someone out but you can do it in an eloquent way. he says the two of them as business people know to talk people directly but respectfully.
marcellas is revisited once again.
b: he thinks he can just diva around and no one notice.
d: i almost want to stick my hand out and say i don't think we've met. i'm danielle
b asks how good marc was at comps.
d says he was very good. don't let his homosexuality fool you. she threw almost as many comps as will did during bb3, but marc won stuff.
b says he applauds the amount of balls it takes to do that because i couldn't live with myself if i got evicted and i didn't try.
they discuss bb3 stuff, how alison and nakomis went home.
boogie says nakomis was all about not campaigning against diane but she was playing an awful lot of chess upstairs. dani says she probably took deals. that's not so bad. they don't like it when people say they're not going to campaign.
dani tells boogie how much janelle was sweating that will and boogie would vote the other way the first week because alison had made it so clear how much she wanted janelle out, but dani couldn't correct them because she didn't want to give what they had away.
dani talks about someone at the wrap party who referred to alison and dani as "my b1tches" and how he was probably having a fit.
dani says she really liked nakomis. she liked seeing a woman on a reality show who was playing smart. not because she was under the radar and sexy. she didn't have to hook up. she's all this *points at her head*
b: and young too. this game is really tailored to people in their later 20s, 30s... to go that far at 21 years old the first time around...
dani: to come up with the 6finger plan...
b: and to have teh balls to do it and to have the trust with the other people playing the veto...
dani says jase said alison and arnold didn't even know about that. nakomis outsmarted the creators of the show. dani complains about jase not even getting up to see her to the door and how he said he was ripping her for her hair and stuff in the diary room.
b: let me ask you with your expertise, sitting in the position i'm in, with the perception that chilltown has added jase as a member, it doesn't matter if he's in it or he isn't. perception is everything, right?
dani: yes.
b: do you think it would be in my best interest to push a little bit toward jase?
dani says what's working in his favor is that people don't think you and will can win competitions. jase can not only win competitions, he can win physical competitions. so if you have three people, you would think let me take the real strong hit man out and those two will still be kind of weak.
b: and i still have will as the roadblock as he's the greatest player and he doesn't want to be here.
dani: i think it would be in your best interest to get rid of jase rather than marcellas. people don't think marcellas is aligned with you. they think you're with jase.
dani says shes being very honest with him. she could push marcellas but it's better for him to push jase.
d: i don't think james is going to put up jase because of what happened on week 1.
b doesn't know what happened.
dani tells boogie what she did coming up with the plan for jase and janelle not to agree.
dani says she told the dr the plan was risky, but after alison said don't tell janelle then she immediately told james because she knew james would tell janelle. it was risky but she had to do it.
dani: after i got nominated and went back i told janelle and jase i freaked out because i didn't know what was going on.
b: at that moment did you know you had their three votes.
dani: not yet but by that happening then the line was drawn in the sand. you knew who is with you.
with alison i knew she was vengeful, so i knew to keep my mouth shut. she says jase would follow her around hoping she would say something. but dani didn't talk game. she couldn't.
b: that was f'ing risky as sh1t.
boogie says he's scared right now talking with danielle because she is playing this game on so many levels.
They start talking about bb3 again. Dani says Lisa told her she was concerned that she was taking another will kirby to the end, but when that happened she knew lisa was smart because roddy and others had said they didn't want to see another will kirby win the game. she understood the jury.
Boogie says one of the things that worked with Will was he never slandered anybody. Dani says she did. She was so cruel. What happened with me on that season was I was walking a fine line of being a total b1tch or having compassion.
Boogie says after 10 or 12 weeks most people hit a point where the bigger picture of life comes into play and there were a couple key moments where life was more important to him than a game. One was Hardy offered me a deal to F over Will and Shannon, but I wouldn't do that. I was loyal to them to the end and it ended up kicking me out. Boogie says it's harder for him not to play like that. What has been refreshing for him is that this game he has been able to be up front that Will is his guy so if you can take us out 1-2 punch but at the same token that will end I need to set myself up. |
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