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Topic #2469313
pokey_ally - A/M finishing up nachos to cook; J looking at picture wall; I in BY rocking in hammock NT 0 Replies #2469313 5:04PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2469364
pokey_ally - Iv checked on laundry, then came inside to let A know her stuff may be done. All HGs in kitchen. Not much conversation going on right now. NT 0 Replies #2469364 5:09PM 12/09/2005
Iv then returns outside to hammock.
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Topic #2469463
serac - maggie, april and janelle eating outside. NT 0 Replies #2469463 5:19PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2469469
serac - ivette laying on the hammock. NT 0 Replies #2469469 5:20PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2469547
fnfish - Backyard Nachos chatter, A, M, J 1 Replies #2469547 5:28PM 12/09/2005
They're enjoying nachos, maggie says she won't eat these at home
Janelle asks why because they're fattening?
Maggie says no, but doesn't elaborate on her answer. (ed. I'm shocked)
April says she'll be sitting at home watching a reality TV show with her nachos and Pepperoni at her side & Matt will be at work cause that's where he always is.
Janelle asks How many hrs does he work a week?
April: around 80.
J: Wow

Maggie to April: You could come to Vegas and be a stay at home wife and you could take care of my kids.
April: Ya, so you're kids could (have a potty mouth) (didn't hear what she said here but she definately poked at herself for swearing so much.) & laughed
Janelle joined in the joke saying: Ya, the kids'll be saying "you're a mo-fo. why is he a son of a b--ch?"
Maggie: That's what your kids (to Janelle) are gonna' say. Mine are gonna be like, "Mom, why were you so nice?"

(ed. uh... whatever)
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applecrisp - April said, "Yeah, your kid would be saying 'mofo' by the time it was one" NT #2469627 5:33PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2469583
fnfish - Feeds return from fish and we have Ivette watching the pics on memory wall (of Jan @ 2.5 men) NT 0 Replies #2469583 5:31PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2469607
fnfish - Now Ivette is alone playing coasters in the LR. NT 2 Replies #2469607 5:32PM 12/09/2005
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puck71 - Not really coasters #2469700 5:38PM 12/09/2005
She's throwing coasters onto the table, but she's not doing it from the normal chairs...she's throwing them from the couch which is like a foot away. She doesn't even have to get up from the couch to retrieve the coasters!!
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PandeMOANium - She keeps looking over her shoulder, towards the backyard. (It's like she wants someone to notice her and feel bad for her.) [wants attention] NT #2469635 5:34PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2469610
serac - ivette is looking at the pics of janelles day out. 0 Replies #2469610 5:32PM 12/09/2005
now looking out in the backyard. back to pics. (looking depressed, surprise, surprise!) in livingroom, picked up coasters and tossing them at the table.
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Topic #2469652
serac - april asking bb for beer as well. NT 0 Replies #2469652 5:34PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2469689
serac - maggie asking if she was working it? 0 Replies #2469689 5:37PM 12/09/2005
maggie says that would be against me then. Janelle came back. now talking about howies dress.
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Topic #2469712
serac - april asked if they ever called her a hick in the dr. 0 Replies #2469712 5:39PM 12/09/2005
janelle said no maggie said yes. Now fish.
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Topic #2469822
PawPrint74 - TRANSCRIPT - Sunday, 9/11/05 - April To Maggie About Ivette - Later, The Infamous CAT FIGHT Between Ivette and April JUICY - TRANSCRIPT 0 Replies #2469822 5:47PM 12/09/2005
NOTE TO READERS FROM TRANSCRIPTIONIST: Please note that my transcripts are USUALLY from the previous day's conversations. Sometimes you'll notice a morning conversation transcript posted the same day, but in the evening. However, you will also notice transcripts from conversations held two or three days prior to the present time. It just depends on what my professional schedule entails each day. Also, most transcripts will be posted in the mornings when most, if not all, of the houseguests are still sleeping. It gives you, the fans of BB and Jokers Updates, something to read while nothing is going on in the house. I am a court reporter so I work during the day quite often, but I record the feeds and transcribe some of the conversations to give you a very in-depth and real feel for what's occurring in the house. I am a certified machine shorthand reporter. I certify that the transcripts I produce are true, correct and verbatim to the best of my professional ability. Thank you.
September 10, 2005 - Part 2 - Saturday - More April After Power of Veto Competition. Takes place outside. Continuation of the last transcript posted. Transcript begins in the middle of a conversation with April and Maggie, starting with April quoting something Ivette said to her and continues on.
APRIL: "But you don't understand. I've been wanted out since week whatever." That's not my f*cking fault that I've been nice to people. Sorry.
MAGGIE: I know that.
APRIL: Sorry I haven't been -- I mean, am I supposed to feel sorry for someone like that? No. It's not my fault. How is that my fault?
MAGGIE: It's not your fault. I mean, I know I've been wanted out. I hope it's not because people think I was mean.
APRIL: No. I mean, they're --
MAGGIE: I don't know.
APRIL: I mean, for me -- for Janelle to even think it was rude, I think that that says something. I mean, I understand she was happy to get it, but God.
MAGGIE: I also think Janelle wants us to break apart, so she's going to point out everything that we all do wrong.
APRIL: No, I know, but still, I'm sorry. I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not. I know it was -- if it made me feel wrong, then it was wrong. Sorry.
[Maggie still working out, doing sit-ups.]
APRIL: I'm going to go see if the DR is open.
MAGGIE: What?
APRIL: I'm going to go see if the DR is open. I know I'm going to have to go in there.
MAGGIE: I know, but I think Ivette's in there. Wasn't she called there?
APRIL: Yeah, but she might be out.
MAGGIE: Probably not.
APRIL: She's already gone in there like two or three times.
MAGGIE: Are you serious?
APRIL: She went in there earlier. Yeah.
MAGGIE: I didn't know that. Okay.
APRIL: I would think.
MAGGIE: Okay. I don't know. Okay.
APRIL: This is so mean to say, and I don't mean this to be rude, but I think I just want to be by myself the next few days.
MAGGIE: Why?
APRIL: Because I think I'm going to end up, you know, just getting in arguments with her.
MAGGIE: Please don't leave me.
APRIL: [Crying] I think that's what I want.
MAGGIE: That -- it would hurt my feelings, but I understand.
APRIL: Yeah, I mean, you remember, when you and Eric -- I mean, y'all wanted just to spend time together, you know? because he was your partner. It -- it -- I mean, I know that you -- I know that you and Ivette will be hanging out each other, and I -- I just don't know if I can -- I can't look at her the same way anymore.
MAGGIE: [Sighs.]
APRIL: I can't. After what she did, I can't.
MAGGIE: We swore that after today we would not break up.
APRIL: She just f*cking yelled at me again in the HOH room. I was trying to talk to her like a f*cking adult. I was saying, "It hurt my feelings." And then she f*cking through that, "Well, when you told Maggie not to play and to let you and I fight it out, I thought that was" --
MAGGIE: No. That wasn't -- that wasn't what happened. I said, "April and I just had a talk." I said, "April says she'll probably take me. You say you'll probably take me. Do you want me to not play so that you guys can fight it out?" That's why she came to me and said it was like being stabbed --
APRIL: She said that I asked you not to play in the Veto competition and let her and I fight it out, so...
MAGGIE: Well, that needs to be cleared up. That needs to be cleared up.
APRIL: That's what she said. She goes, "How do you think it made me feel when you told Maggie not to compete in the Veto competition and to let me and you fight it out? How do you think that makes me feel?" And she walked out, just stormed out. She was p*ssed. And I was like, number one, I thought you were -- number one, I though you were bringing Maggie. If I'm wrong about that, then okay. Sorry.
MAGGIE: Then I was wrong about that, too.
APRIL: I mean --
MAGGIE: My interpretation -- you're the only one who told me, promised me.
APRIL: Yeah.
MAGGIE: She did not. But my interpretation was that she would take me. Okay? So when this morning we had talked about it, I went to her and I said, "April and I just had a discussion, what do you think -- because you both have said that you would probably take me, maybe, that's the assumption." I said, "What would you think about me not playing in the Power of Veto so that you and April can go head to head?" So if she took that as it being your idea, I never said it one idea or the other. I don't even know whose idea it was.
APRIL: I mean, I remember telling you that if it's you and I left, feel comfortable that I would take you. I said that. I didn't say not to f*cking play at all. I think that's kind of -- you know?
MAGGIE: No. No one said to throw it. But you and I had a discussion about me taking myself out and you guys playing.
APRIL: I thought -- you asked, "Do you believe in fairness?" And I said, "Absolutely."
MAGGIE: Yes.
APRIL: And you said -- and that's whenever you asked me the question: "Do you think it would be fair" --
MAGGIE: I didn't ask you do I think something would be fair.
APRIL: No. You said, "I know that you said you would probably take me and Ivette pretty much has said the same thing." I don't know where -- I mean, I -- I don't think I ever looked at you and said "Do not play the Power of Veto."
MAGGIE: You never told me "Do not play the Power of Veto."
APRIL: I think it -- I thought it was fair.
MAGGIE: It was a suggestion that I approached Ivette with this morning after you and I had already talked about it. Ivette and I had not talked about it before you and I. I know that.
APRIL: Yeah.
MAGGIE: So when I went to Ivette this morning, and I think she pretty much said that wouldn't be fair. Then I went back to you and said, "Do you believe in fairness?" You said, "Yes." And then I said, "Well, Ivette doesn't want me not to play." And so that was pretty much telling you that I had talked to her about it and that she didn't like the idea.
APRIL: Yeah, I remember you telling me that, that she wasn't happy with it because she thought Janelle was playing for me, which, okay, fine, whatever. That's not what I was relying on.
MAGGIE: I know that.
APRIL: You can say that all you f*cking want, but that's not what I was relying on.
[NOTE: The houseguests repeat themselves a lot, and I feel like I've written basically the same conversation at least once already, so I'm going to pick back up once something new happens. Transcription begins again about 10 minutes later.]
APRIL: I could have voted her *ss out twice already. Do you understand how much I wanted her gone when her and Beau were up there?
MAGGIE: I do.
APRIL: Do you understand how much I really even wanted her gone when I got approached to vote her out? I wanted her gone. So if she's going to sit there and say Janelle came back to bite her in the f*cking *ss, she came back to bite me in the f*cking *ss, pretty much. That's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened. And that's why I'm saying she does owe a thanks again for her being here, because there were several times that my vote could have swung a whole different way, and I didn't do it, because I knew what was right. I didn't want to do what was wrong. So when she did that sh*t, [crying] it was very, very f*cking rude. It was rude. But I can't even talk to her because all she does is yell at me, and she won't even let me f*cking talk. She won't listen to me. All she is doing is yelling, and I'm done with it. She came up to the HOH and she was like, "Do you want to talk?" And I was like, "No." I was like, "Right now I just want to be by myself." "You don't want to talk to me?" I'm like, "I just want to be by myself right now." She didn't respect that. She just started talking. It's like, you're going to start talking when I asked you not talk, but yet you're not going to listen to what I have to say? Maggie, you're going to probably think I'm a horrible, horrible person, but I am not -- I cannot sit here and say that I will vote for her to win that 500,000 at the end if she's sitting next to Janelle. I can't.
MAGGIE: [Sighs.] Ohhhh.
APRIL: I can't, Maggie. I'm not. [Pause] I'm not saying that I won't, but I am p*ssed off right now, and I have seen a different side, and I cannot say that I will vote that way. I can't. I'm going to have to think about it, but my vote wouldn't matter anyway. It would be just for...whatever. She'd still win it. You know you're winning the 500,000. That's the bottom line. Janelle would take you and Ivette is going to take you. Janelle thinks Ivette might would take her. I'm like, "uhh." That's what she said to me up there. I was like, "I don't know." She said, "I can't take her to the final two if I get it."
MAGGIE: That doesn't make me feel good.
APRIL: What?
MAGGIE: You saying that.
APRIL: Why not?
[Janelle joins the conversation and serious talk abruptly stops. They begin talking about being bored and wanting to figure out something to do. Janelle leaves about 10 minutes later. Ivette pops her head outside to ask if either of them want lunch, both decline, and Ivette goes back in the house. Maggie then takes this opportunity to ask April about Ivette taking Janelle to the final two instead of herself. Later Maggie goes in the house and hears an earful from Ivette.]
MAGGIE: Why does Janelle think that Ivette would take her?
APRIL: To win the 500,000.
MAGGIE: Doesn't she know that the alliance wouldn't --
APRIL: Apparently not. She will probably work on Ivette, because she knows Ivette -- Ivette talks nothing about -- all she talks about her family and how much her family needs the money; how she came on this show for her family; how it would change their lives. You know, most likely Janelle will work on her for that.
MAGGIE: I can't do anything about that.
APRIL: Nope. And as much as you would like to think Ivette, ultimately, would pick you, I don't -- I mean, I hope. I would think. But she is so about the money and her family --
MAGGIE: But she knows --
APRIL: She -- I know. But she also would be -- she also knows she would be tossing $500,000 if she picked you over Janelle.
MAGGIE: But she knows that if she picked Janelle, she would be giving up the money. It's a toss-up with me.
APRIL: Let me tell you something.
MAGGIE: It's a toss-up with me.
APRIL: Do you not think that Beau -- do you not think Beau -- Beau is going to still -- do you see what I'm saying? That is her partner. That is her partner. Beau will not go against her.
MAGGIE: Yeah, but me, you and Jen are in the jury.
APRIL: You're not there -- oh. That's --
MAGGIE: That's too big of a gamble.
APRIL: I don't know. I don't know. Because I'm going to tell you right now, they [Diary Room] are going to make her feel like sh*t over the next week.
MAGGIE: I know that.
APRIL: Do you understand your family -- you could bring your family out of -- would she rather you be upset with her or her family be upset with her? She would rather you, most likely, be upset with her.
MAGGIE: I know that, but we've -- no -- they've been saying that to us in the DR for a long time now.
APRIL: It doesn't matter. Until you're in the position, you don't have to really think about it. Do you see what I'm saying?
MAGGIE: That's not how I'm playing.
APRIL: Just because it's -- I mean, hello? If I would have won that Veto today, I wouldn't have jumped up and said "Let me in the DR." You know, "I'm in the final three." I would have never done that. Just because we wouldn't play that way doesn't mean other people won't. We've seen how she's been over the last week when it comes to her family, when it comes to money; how they used to have money. Well, I've seen a whole different side of her over the last two weeks, because the money is getting closer in range. I think she's a great person. I think she's a nice person. I think she's a giving person. But --
MAGGIE: I can't -- I'm not going to tell her that if she doesn't -- if she has the choice, and she doesn't pick me, I'm not going to tell her that. She should already know that. If I have a choice, I have to pick her. I have promised that from Day 1, that in the alliance, if we're given the choice, we have to always choose within the alliance.
APRIL: Well, let's think of the votes, okay? If it were her and Janelle --
MAGGIE: She can't --
APRIL: She might take it as a crap shoot. She might look at it as "Well, it's a bigger chance to win five" -- I mean, she knows she's not going to win it over you. She knows that. She knows that.
MAGGIE: How does she know that? I don't even know that.
APRIL: No one -- I don't think you understand that no one liked her except for us. They didn't -- do you see what --
MAGGIE: Yeah.
APRIL: I mean, she was very -- do you want to sit over there? I'm getting hot.
MAGGIE: Okay.
APRIL: I don't know. I don't know.
MAGGIE: There's nothing I can do.
APRIL: Huh-uh.
MAGGIE: I'm not going to tell her.
APRIL: Huh-uh.
MAGGIE: It's the only agreement we've had, was in the alliance, you don't go against your fellow alliance members.
APRIL: I mean, I don't think that would -- I don't -- [pauses]. I think they're [Diary Room] just going to work on her really hard because --
MAGGIE: I know that.
APRIL: -- she has said -- she even said today, "The only reason I'm here is for my family."
MAGGIE: I know that.
APRIL: BB would probably see the best pleasure in her and Janelle sitting down together at the end. You got the two that hated each other through the whole way of the game --
[Ivette opens the siding-glass door.]
IVETTE: You don't want some?
MAGGIE: No.
APRIL: Huh-uh.
[Ivette goes to the table where Maggie and April are and brings her plate and begins eating.]
MAGGIE: That looks really good.
IVETTE: Thanks.
MAGGIE: I got really light-headed, so I have to sit down and drink a couple things of water.
IVETTE: I've already drank like three of them.
MAGGIE: Um-hmm. Me too. This is my third.
[Small talk, no game talk between the three. April is silent. About three minutes after Ivette's arrival, April gets up and walks inside.]
IVETTE: I guess I won't even be around.
MAGGIE: What?
IVETTE: I guess I won't even be around.
MAGGIE: What do you mean?
IVETTE: I feel like I did something horrible. It really sucks.
MAGGIE: I think that everyone's feelings are getting hurt. I think we're all really sensitive, and I think we need to remember what the bottom line is, is that we all used each other and needed each other to get to this point.
IVETTE: Everybody in some way was safe except me. The only safety was you. And even then it was going to be hard for you to decide, but I knew where you were going to go. Do you understand?
MAGGIE: Yes.
[NOTE: I don't understand. Is Ivette insinuating she knew Maggie would choose April or Ivette if Maggie won the Power of Veto? Can anyone shed some light on that? I thought Maggie and April had a secret alliance, but maybe Ivette and Maggie have one as well, maybe an unspoken but understood alliance? Is it stronger than April and Maggie's alliance? I'm not looking for opinions. Just want to know the facts if you know, and please send me a private message with the answer because this is not an update.]
IVETTE: Other than that, everybody else had safety. Everybody had at least two rounds of safety or more. If can't see that, and she's being really selfish.
MAGGIE: I think what her problem is, is that she did not count on Janelle. She didn't count on her, so what she -- when we were talking about, you know, me not playing, my interpretation of that was that I thought there was a chance that you would both provide safety for me. Maybe I'm an *ss for thinking that. But --
IVETTE: That's like saying "I'm going to go to a bad neighborhood and walk outside in the dark and not expect anything to happen to me." Something might not happen to you, but chances are you might get robbed. Don't tell me that Janelle not putting her key in that box and her hanging out with Janelle --
MAGGIE: See, I think Janelle hurt her in the game. I've said that.
IVETTE: And her hanging out with Janelle and her talking to Janelle for 40 minutes on several occasions, you're going to tell me that she didn't feel some sort of security with Janelle?
MAGGIE: I asked her why Janelle --
IVETTE: The same way that they --
MAGGIE: -- went up and said "sorry" to her but didn't say "sorry" to me. I'm still up on the f*cking chopping block. And she never said "sorry" to me.
IVETTE: The same way that April told me, "You're a hundred percent sure with James," and I told her, "I never know with James because Janelle is still in this game." Yes or no? Did I not say that? And she kept insisting how secure I was with James. That's the same situation as with Janelle. But we fail to see when it deals with us. We fail to step in other people's shoes.
MAGGIE: I have a hard time with.
IVETTE: And I feel that I do truly step in other people's shoes, and that's why I told her "I'm sorry I got excited." [Stopped writing because it's the same stuff over and over again. I will start again when something that hasn't been repeated several times is discussed.]
April is talking to Maggie about feeling like she's been manipulated by Ivette. This is after April had a long conversation with Janelle.
APRIL: Listen to this sh*t. You know when Beau won HOH? And it was me, you, Beau and James standing up there still. And when Rachel got knocked off, I went like this [indicating excitement]. I was like this [indicating excitement.] Why? Because I somewhat felt like we were safe because James had made all these promises. She [Janelle] goes, "April, do you remember that night that you did this [indicating excitement] or whatever?" And I was like, "Uh, yeah." She goes James came in right after that and was like, "Why the f*ck was that b*tch all excited that I was there, because I was about to put her [April] and f*cking Maggie up." I'm like, "Oh, my God." And she goes, "April, if you didn't think about this," which thank God I did and I told you, she was like, "he knew that the only people he could win against at the end were us, so he was taking every single one of y'all down, except for Ivette." She's [Janelle] like, "And he did tell me before he left that if I were down by Ivette that he had made her [Ivette] a promise and that he could not vote for me [Janelle]. So I'm just looking at all this, and I feel like I have been manipulated. That's what I feel like, to be honest, in a lot of ways. I really feel like that. It's my own fault, and I'm guilty for it as well. I'm guilty. See, I've hung out with Ivette so much longer than you have. Like, you didn't start becoming even -- even when you were in the friendship, like, you and Jennifer were closer.
MAGGIE: Uh-huh. I hung out with Jennifer until Jennifer was gone.
APRIL: Yeah.
MAGGIE: That was who I spent most of my time with.
APRIL: Yeah. Because Ivette was wanting to make me promises like --
MAGGIE: That was week seven.
APRIL: Yeah. Every time I would say "I like Kaysar," [Ivette] "Why do you like him? You can't" -- and it's like it's always a lose-lose --
MAGGIE: I liked him as a person.
APRIL: She did not.
MAGGIE: In the game, he was an incredible player. That's the problem.
APRIL: Any time I talked to him or Janelle or any of those guys, I got questioned by her constantly. Can't I just be a nice person? Can't I talk to everyone and that be okay?
MAGGIE: That's how you're known in this house.
APRIL: I got questioned all the time. It was like a lose-f*cking-lose all the time. You see it's a lose-lose when her and I get in a conversation.
MAGGIE: Yeah, it is.
APRIL: And I look back, and I feel it's my own fault, but I feel like I've been manipulated throughout this game by her [Ivette]. That is what -- I really firmly feel that way. I do.
There's a reason America -- there are things we don't see, and --
MAGGIE: What did they [people at the set when Janelle went] say? "Get rid of Ivette. She's a liar." [Whispers] That's what they said?
APRIL: [Nods head up and down.] I mean, I feel horrible for the things that I have said about Janelle. I really do. She's the one person -- and who does Ivette hate the most?
MAGGIE: Janelle.
APRIL: Janelle. I like Janelle. Janelle and I were friends. Janelle and I have -- we got along like the first two weeks, three weeks. I mean, we were hanging out. We were friends.
MAGGIE: I like her, too.
APRIL: And then next thing you know, I'm trying to think of when everything started changing, but I'm remember every time I would talk to her, I would get questioned. And I started getting things in my head, like they kept saying, "She's a liar," so then everything I heard, I believed she was lying. And then the next thing you know, I've created this person in my head that I'm telling other people that she is. Do you know what I'm saying? I feel like I made my opinions based on my observation -- I feel like I made my opinions based on other people's observations.
MAGGIE: Which may be true, but you tell me that she lies all the time.
APRIL: She does. When I say all the time --
MAGGIE: That bothers me.
APRIL: -- I can tell -- I --
MAGGIE: That bothers me.
APRIL: Yes, when she says "I didn't kiss Michael, I didn't do things like that" --
MAGGIE: That's what James did.
APRIL: -- I know she lying about those things.
MAGGIE: That's what I hated about James, is that he always lied.
APRIL: I'm not taking up for her. This isn't about her.
MAGGIE: I know that.
APRIL: She's a prime example for me to give an example about, because this is someone that Ivette can't stand the most. The most.
MAGGIE: Uh-huh.
APRIL: And it's -- I mean, you see it. Ivette's nice to her one day, and then she's sh*t talking her the next. Janelle was like, "It really hurts my feelings because Ivette will sit here and be mean to me one day, and the next day she's all goody-goody talking to me about all kinds of stuff." She goes, "I don't understand where she's coming from." I mean, it doesn't matter. Take her out of it. She knows she's not winning the game. She knows it. She's not going to sit here -- I told her that my -- I told her my -- she knows she's not winning it. She knows she's not winning it. She has never even remotely talked about the $500,000. Her goal is to not let Ivette make it to the final two. If Ivette does, she's okay. I mean, she's like, "April, I have nothing to lose. I have nothing to lose." She says before Rachel left, Rachel said, "Get that b*tch out. Get her out."
MAGGIE: Ivette?
APRIL: And she's like, "All I can" -- she's like, "When you go back to Rachel, just tell Rachel I tried. Tell Rachel I tried." I mean -- or, she said, "Get that liar out." I think she said, "b*tch," but I don't know if Rachel would say "b*tch." But I'm just looking back. There's a reason people think this. There's a reason people think that I'm a nice person. She [Janelle] was so sweet. She was like, "April," she was like, "when you were HOH," she's like, "Howie and I, we were just really confused," she's like, "we thought you were the nicest HOH ever." She's like, "You were so nice to us." She goes, "And Howie and I, were like, 'Is the for real? Is she really this nice,' because you were like saying really nice things." And I'm like, "I just believe" -- and that's why I'm contradicting myself. I mean, it kills me, because I am nice to everyone in this house, and I really -- that's how I am.
MAGGIE: Um-hmm. I know that.
APRIL: The DR does f*ck with you, abso-f*cking-lutely.
MAGGIE: Yes.
APRIL: But you saw me the other day, like I was going off. And I was, like, saying things I would not -- you know? I mean, that's not me. I'm 31 years old. I feel like I've been -- I just feel like I've been around the -- I know she's [Ivette] a good person, but it -- I know America does not like her [Ivette]. I know that for a fact. And I am being associated with that, and it's my own fault, and I -- I feel like I've screwed the pooch on that one. I've said bad things. I told -- thank God I told Janelle. I was like, "Janelle, I've said things about you. You will see them. No you have not been the nicest person in this house. You've done things that are not right." I was like, "You know that." I didn't talk any game with Janelle, nothing. If I want to tell -- if I want to talk to her about those kind of things, I'm going to.
MAGGIE: Yeah.
APRIL: You know? I mean, I'm not going to talk game because -- you know? And she's like, "Yeah, I know that Kaysar week, I know it wasn't you and Maggie and Jennifer; I know it was Beau and Ivette that wanted him out," because Kaysar went to Eric, which I know you're probably like, "yeah, right, like I don't even know went on," but I didn't know this, but she said Kaysar was a very nonvocal person. Actually, she said James was pretty much telling everyone -- James would find out from Ivette who we wanted out. James would go back to them and say, "They want you, So-And-So, out," whatever it would be. But anyway, at the very beginning, Kaysar went to Eric, she said, and said, "Beau and Ivette are a couple," and Eric's like, "I don't care." He goes, "Well, when I get HOH, I want them both out. I'm going to put them up." And Ivette and Beau found out about it. And now I'm looking back, and I'm like, Beau and Ivette brought up to evict Kaysar during Jen's HOH, when I really -- that was not my choice. I really wanted to stick to the promise. And it's just -- I'm putting two and two and two and two and two together, and my problem is, is as much as Ivette says she is not playing this f*cking game, she has been playing it the whole friggin time. And I was stupid, and I didn't do strategy. I played with my heart. Does that make sense? And that's --
MAGGIE: But that's what got you here, is playing with your heart. That's what I'm still banking on.
APRIL: Yeah, and you're going to get it, because I'm going to freaking rally people for your *ss. You deserve it. You deserve it. Let me tell you one thing: Just go as normal. I know you don't have a lot of money. Don't say you don't have a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't --
MAGGIE: I only answer something truthful --
APRIL: I know. Do you not think that I think you're truthful? Of all freaking people, I love you to death.
[NOTE: I have a lot more of this conversation to transcribe, but I really want to get to the Ivette and April argument, so I'm going to put this aside and hopefully come back to it later, but I think you'll enjoy the Ivette and April argument better.]
[This is the argument between Ivette and April yesterday afternoon. While reading this, imagine Ivette screaming and yelling pretty much throughout this entire conversation. She was livid. Apparently, according to other's updates, Ivette told April she could shove the Veto up her *ss. Maggie is present as well, but she rarely speaks throughout this hour-long fight.]
APRIL: It is my fault. I'm not saying that it's your fault. I am just as responsible for it, because you're right. I am 31 --
IVETTE: I mean, I've never f*cking called the girl "Smelly-Nellie." I've never even smelled her f*cking odor.
APRIL: That's what I -- I mean --
IVETTE: I don't give a sh*t about her odor. I even said it. I don't give a sh*t about her f*cking extensions. I don't give a sh*t about her f*cking fake boobs. What I care about is the way she f*cking comes into this house and acts like a princess and doesn't f*cking want to do anything and thinks that I'm her f*cking maid. And I'll tell that to her face. I don't give a sh*t about everything else. And I didn't even give a sh*t about that stuff when it came to the f*cking game. I just knew that she was damn f*cking good. That makes me a sh*tty person? That makes me a mean person? Because I say she's got f*cking luck from hell? because I tell her to her face because I tell her the truth, that makes me a mean person? I don't give a sh*t about all the exterior that she has. That doesn't make her a person. And I told you guys that time and time again. You and Beau ranted and raved. YOU and Beau fed off of each other when it came to Janelle.
APRIL: And I am embarrassed of that.
IVETTE: Okay. But YOU and Beau fed off of each other.
APRIL: You made fun of her all the time, so don't even sit here and say you didn't. Don't even sit here and say you didn't.
IVETTE: I -- I've sat here and told you -- I've never called her "Smelly-Nellie." I never went out of the books. I went to what I saw with my eyes.
APRIL: That is what I'm guilty of, is -- and it is my fault, Ivette. I'm not sitting here saying --
IVETTE: I went to what -- I went to what I saw with my eyes.
APRIL: You can't sit here and say, though, that you didn't make fun her extensions, that you didn't make fun her (inaudible) --
IVETTE: Absolutely! And I'll tell her face if you want me to. You sat there and you were stare.
APRIL: Yes, and you know what --
IVETTE: You would stare at them.
APRIL: I never even knew about her extensions, so for you to say that I'm the one who brought them out, no, no, no, no, no, no.
MAGGIE: It doesn't --
IVETTE: You asked her the first night.
APRIL: I asked her, I said, "Oh" --
MAGGIE: This doesn't matter, you guys.
IVETTE: But I'm just saying --
MAGGIE: You're arguing about something that doesn't matter.
IVETTE: She doesn't realize that her and Beau also --
APRIL: I --
IVETTE: She hung around Beau way more than she'll --
MAGGIE: She does realize it.
IVETTE: You hung around Beau way more than you hung around me.
APRIL: That is why I am upset. Do you not listen?
IVETTE: Okay. But don't say that it was -- that --
APRIL: I think it's -- I think it's you; I think it's Beau; I think it's -- you know what I'm saying? It's my fault. It is my fault. I am ashamed of what I have said. It is my friggin fault.
IVETTE: Now because you want to clear up the path, all that stuff is not true? That she's obnoxious when hangs around Howie; that she lies about her personal appearance?
APRIL: I have told her about -- I didn't even say anything to her about the extensions because, honestly, I don't care.
IVETTE: I just find it funny. I just find it funny. Who told Beau to drink? Who told me to let Beau drink and get butt drunk so he could tell her off?
APRIL: I didn't say "so he could tell her off." I said, let him get drunk because he's funny when he's drunk. I knew that he would be hilarious --
IVETTE: Who did that affect in the game? That affected me totally, Beau getting trashed like that.
APRIL: Okay.
IVETTE: Beau getting trashed like that --
APRIL: Hello? Beau was love by any -- out of all the people in this house, Beau could freaking sh*t on somebody and they loved him. He never got -- it didn't hurt him in the game. It didn't hurt him at all. I am not saying that you're the guilty one. I'm just saying that I look back at some things and I am ashamed of what I've done. It's not -- I'm not saying that I'm the innocent one here. I'm not saying I'm the innocent one here, Ivette. I'm not saying that. I am ashamed of some things that I have done and I am just taking the time out at this point --
IVETTE: I will never sit here -- I will never sit here and say, April, your conversations with me had an influence on things that I did in this game.
APRIL: I feel like some of them did.
MAGGIE: But that's the truth. Everyone's conversations -- everyone gathered data and brought it back.
APRIL: I listened to you [Ivette] the most. I -- take that as like -- it was a compliment that I listened to you. You and I were closer than --
IVETTE: I don't think --
APRIL: -- me and Maggie, me and Beau.
IVETTE: I don't think --
APRIL: I mean --
IVETTE: I could sit here, honestly, I would never, ever steer somebody the wrong way, never. I would never steer somebody the wrong way. You might want to sit here and think she's [Janelle] this wonderful person now and that she hasn't done anything mean --
APRIL: I haven't said that. I don't know why you keep saying that.
IVETTE: -- and that there's a reason why America loves her.
APRIL: There is.
IVETTE: But she f*cking trashed you to a Tee.
APRIL: There is a reason.
IVETTE: Okay? Kaysar would come up to you and Jennifer thinking that you guys were dumb.
APRIL: Um-hmm.
IVETTE: I protected you guys from that, too, because I don't want anybody to f*cking see any one of us as dumb. When James -- when James remotely came out and said -- when it was being said that he would take out you and Maggie, I told him, "If you take out those two girls, I will walk out of this house right behind them, because I will feel it's my fault why they left." I have constantly, always, looked out for what's best in you, and now because this game is coming to an end or because whatever epiphany you're having, you're going to want to sit here --
APRIL: I'm not having any epiphany.
IVETTE: -- and tell me that I have pretty much steered you wrong and I have had a big influence on the actions that you have taken --
APRIL: I never said "wrong."
IVETTE: -- in this house?
APRIL: I -- you and I were the closest. I listened to a lot of things. I don't feel like I made a lot of my decisions based on what I would have done. I'm not saying that you steered me wrong.
IVETTE: What would you have done differently?
APRIL: I'm not saying that --
IVETTE: What would you have done differently?
APRIL: I would have done some things differently?
IVETTE: What would you have done differently?
APRIL: It doesn't matter what I would have done differently. I'm not going to sit here and tell you what I would have done differently. I don't want you -- I'm not blaming you for everything that has happened in here. I made decisions. All I'm saying is I am normally -- it's my own fault, Ivette. It's my own fault.
IVETTE: I've never seen anybody like you. You change your mind like you change your underwear.
APRIL: You tell me that all the time.
IVETTE: Every other week [Ivette imitating April] "I'm not going to the wrap party. I'm not going to the wrap party. I just don't want to go to the wrap party. We're going to make our own wrap party. I don't want to go to the wrap party. I don't care about the money this week. I care about the money. I don't care about the money. It's funny to see what money does to greed. I don't care about the money. This week I care about the money. I can't f*cking stand Janelle. She can f*cking die" --
APRIL: I never said that I care about the money. I've never said that I've cared about the money.
IVETTE: Okay.
APRIL: For you to say that, that is straight-up lying.
IVETTE: Okay, April. Okay.
APRIL: I've said that I cared about the money?
IVETTE: Okay, April.
IVETTE: You know what? I'm better friends with Maggie, and you can ask Maggie. I've never said that I wanted the money --
IVETTE: I don't care who you're better friends with.
APRIL: -- or that I care about the money.
IVETTE: I don't care who you're better friends with. I really don't care who you're better --
APRIL: I mean, I tell her more.
IVETTE: I don't care who you're better friends with. I don't care who you tell more to. I don't care who you're more grateful to in this game. I don't care who you think is a piece of sh*t in this game. Because you change your mind all the f*cking time. I just wish that you wouldn't have been playing me like a f*cking banjo like an *sshole --
APRIL: I wasn't --
IVETTE: -- and you would have told me a month ago with a little bit more f*cking respect that you didn't like me.
APRIL: I told -- it's not that I don't like you.
IVETTE: And I would have played this game f*cking alone.
APRIL: I don't -- it's not that I don't like you, Ivette.
IVETTE: I would have played this game alone.
APRIL: It's not that I don't like you. When you're -- when the game is over for you, you will look back at things that you've done and things that you've listened to, things that you may --
IVETTE: I don't regret anything. I don't regret anything.
APRIL: How am I saying that I regret anything?
IVETTE: I will not change anything. The person I have been in this house, loud, truthful, obnoxious, mean, whatever you want to f*cking call it, is who I am outside of this f*cking house, outside of these four f*cking walls. That is who I am. Honest. Straight-up honest. I don't f*cking beat around the bush. I don't like you, I don't like you. And if I like you, I love you. That is who I am. I have not changed the way that I am.
APRIL: You think that I don't -- again, it's not that I don't like you, Ivette. That's not it. That is not even it. It's not that I don't like you. I told you the week that Maggie won the Golden Power of Veto how you made me feel about myself. And you said, "April, I don't make you feel that way." What I'm trying to -- everything I say -- like, if I say, "You hurt my feelings," you would say, "I didn't hurt your feelings." Like I am always wrong with you. I'm always wrong. I'm never right. And when I say I can do -- Maggie and I can do the exact same thing the exact same way, I will be wrong over --
IVETTE: I've told Maggie when she's hurt my feelings.
APRIL: Yes, but I can pick on you and Maggie can pick on your, and you will get p*ssed off at me a lot quicker than you would get p*ssed off at Maggie. Maggie -- trust me. Trust me. It annoys me, and I know that -- it has hurt my feelings. I mean, I'm sure I've hurt your feelings, and I'm sorry if I have.
MAGGIE: We've all hurt each other's feelings.
APRIL: I don't want you to think that I don't like you. I have told Maggie the last -- I've told her forever. I -- I love you, Ivette. I really, really do. I don't think you're a bad person. I think you have a huge friggin heart. I think you're very giving. I mean, for God sakes, you give your mother a hundred and fifty dollars out of your paycheck every freaking week. That is giving. I don't think you're this horrible person. I don't want you to think that. What -- when you and I change, and we've talked about this, the minute the game had to come in this was when our relationship changed. I listened to you because I looked at you as someone to listen to. It's my -- I'm not saying you were right and I'm not saying you were wrong. I just fee like I based a lot of my opinions on your feedback. That doesn't make it bad; that doesn't make it good. I just look back and I feel like I -- it's my own fault, Ivette. I feel like I have not made -- don't -- take friggin Janelle out of this. This isn't even about Janelle. This is just about everything. I -- and it's my fault. I feel like I've based a lot of things that I've done in this house on how you felt, not on how I felt. It's my fault. I'm not blaming you. And I'm not saying they're right, and I'm not saying they're wrong. And I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings. It's my fault. It's not yours. And trust me. You'll -- I'm not having some freaking epiphany because I'm going home. No. I mean, whenever -- people are always going to see things differently. Yesterday after -- you know, when you were like yelling "final three" and all this kind of stuff, did it hurt my feelings? Absolutely. Let's say that Beau would have been in my spot. Would it have hurt his feelings? Maybe not. You know that things hurt my feelings. It hurt my feelings, because I knew that I was going home. I swear I would not have done that. If I would have won. You can look at me when I did HOH. You can look at me when I won the Power of Veto. James and I did not even get along, and I didn't start jumping up screaming, going "I'm backdooring your *ss."
IVETTE: That Power of Veto was not your *ss on the f*cking line, April.
APRIL: But, see, you saw it as that. You thought the house was against you.
IVETTE: I know it. Why do you f*cking blind yourself to sh*t that's in our f*cking face?
APRIL: I was not --
IVETTE: Who was going to go home this week --
APRIL: Why do you always yell? Why can't you talk like an adult?
IVETTE: Because I do talk like an adult, because this is the way we f*cking talk. This is the way I was --
APRIL: Okay.
IVETTE: This is the way I f*cking talk. I'm sorry I'm not from f*cking West Texas where everything is f*cking beautiful. That's not the way we f*cking talk. This is the way we talk. I hate when you f*cking want to be blind and see that, "Oh, I was this safe little princess this week." The only one that's *ss was perfectly beautiful and was going to stay here was yours. Then f*cking Maggie.
APRIL: I didn't know that.
IVETTE: The only one that was going to f*cking get canned the same way that James has been wanted out of this house was f*cking me. So stop being so blind and stop trying to make things so f*cking pretty for me, because they're not.
APRIL: Okay.
IVETTE: My *ss was on the line. Your *ss was not on the line when you won the Veto. Okay? The same way Maggie's *ss was kind of on the line when she won the Veto. And either way, Maggie knew that she might go up there, but there was no way she was going to leave.
APRIL: The safe -- in all honesty, the safest person this week was Maggie, so you can't sit here and say --
IVETTE: You weren't safe? You're going to sit -- you're going to have the balls to sit here and say that Maggie was safer than you? [NOTE: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't April the one who is leaving? Not sure how Ivette can say that April was safer than Maggie.] I don't understand how you have the balls to say a thing like that.
APRIL: When it came to winning the Veto, abso-friggin-lutely.
MAGGIE: The only safe person this week was Janelle. That's it. That's the only safe person.
APRIL: And you can ask Maggie. Maggie, did I ever depend on Janelle winning? Did I ever think -- did I ever know a hundred percent sure --
MAGGIE: You told me to remove Janelle from the situation and that it was just between the three of us.
APRIL: I wasn't being selfish. I wasn't being --
IVETTE: You guys had two chances to save your *sses this week. TWO! And I only had f*cking one. And I got blessed with it, and I f*cking jumped for joy.
APRIL: I am happy. I don't want you to think I'm not happy for you, Ivette.
IVETTE: I can't believe that I got that. Okay? And you're going to sit here and tell me that -- I jumped on Eric when he won HOH.
APRIL: You don't have to go back and do all that again.
IVETTE: I jumped on Maggie when she won HOH. I jumped on James when he got the Power of Veto to get Michael out of her. I jumped on -- I broke the glass in the glass house when Jennifer won HOH. I almost toppled Beau when he won HOH.
APRIL: Um-hmm.
IVETTE: When you won HOH, I ran up the stairs and I don't even wait for Julie. I can't control myself. And I was pointing at you, and I ran up those stairs and tackled you. I did the same with myself, and I warned you guys, "I'm going to go nuts when I get HOH." And when I f*cking got the Veto, I can't control the emotions that come over me when I know I just saved my *ss.
[Feed switches to inside the house for a moment, showing Janelle peeking through the sliding-glass door to see what's going on outside.]
IVETTE: ...jeopardy with f*cking Janelle. And now you want me to sit here and tell you how much they loved Maggie now, but Maggie has not been their favorite person.
MAGGIE: My *ss was on the line with all of them, I feel like.
IVETTE: Exactly.
MAGGIE: James --
IVETTE: Exactly. When you saved --
MAGGIE: -- Janelle and Howie.
IVETTE: -- the both of them and you bought them an extra week, you saved yourself only. And you threw out Maggie, Beau and I to the wolves. We had to f*cking accept it, though.
APRIL: [Laughs in disbelief.]
IVETTE: We had to f*cking accept it, though.
APRIL: Okay. Okay.
IVETTE: You knew you did, April.
APRIL: Okay. Yep, you're right. You're right.
IVETTE: Who went up the next week right away? Beau and myself. Right?
APRIL: Yep.
IVETTE: Okay. And who has gone up again when Janelle got HOH? Maggie and myself. You were nowhere in their picture, and that's what I've been trying to tell you for three weeks. You are nowhere on their radar because you became like a --
APRIL: And that's my fault.
IVETTE: -- wonderful -- no. That was one of your perks of getting HOH.
APRIL: Absolutely. I did it all for myself. I definitely was thinking of myself on that one. Didn't think of anybody else. You're absolutely right.
IVETTE: Take it and exaggerate it like that.
APRIL: That's what you're saying. That's exactly what you're f*cking saying, Ivette. Exactly what you're saying.
IVETTE: So your reasons for not getting along with Janelle and Howie called you a b*tch was because of all actions that I have made you do?
APRIL: They -- I know why -- I'm not accept what Howie did to me at all. But -- and it was told --
IVETTE: And who was beside you the whole entire time and cared about you, didn't leave your side, waited for you?
APRIL: I don't think you're a bad person. You're sitting here saying that I think you're some horrible person.
IVETTE: Yeah, you are pretty much. Yeah, you are pretty much saying that.
APRIL: I am not.
IVETTE: If I influenced you to do bad things, it's backs I'm a bad person and I influence bad things on you.
APRIL: You did not influence me. Does that make sense? I -- it is my fault because I've listened to a lot of things.
IVETTE: It was told to you what?
APRIL: It doesn't make --
IVETTE: It was told to you what?
APRIL: It doesn't make -- I don't remember what I was going to say.
IVETTE: You were talking about Howie.
APRIL: They thought -- it doesn't make anything right. It does not make it right that Howie went off on me. It does not make it right. I told Janelle last night, "It was so rude of you to sit there and laugh when Howie was saying those things."
MAGGIE: Uh-huh.
APRIL: I told her all -- I'm not going to sit here and say that she's some f*cking princess. I'm not going to say that, but I can tell her that I'm sorry that I have talked sh*t about her. I can definitely say that. I'm not saying it was right, what Howie did. I'm not saying it was right, what Janelle did. I'm not saying it was right whoever did anything that week. I'm not saying it was and I'm not saying I'm okay with it, but it was told that Jennifer and I were the responsible ones for it. So --
IVETTE: I remember, quite frankly, when Jennifer became HOH, Jennifer didn't tell us who she was going to put up.
APRIL: I knew who it was. It was James. She was sending James -- she was going to send James home.
IVETTE: She didn't tell us. I quite remembered her saying that she wasn't going to tell us who she was going to put up. The two people she was going to put up originally, nominate. We didn't f*cking know.
MAGGIE: It was okay with us, as long as it wasn't us --
IVETTE: Right. We didn't know who she was going to nominate.
[Stopped writing because it's the same stuff over and over.]
APRIL: Do you understand that James was going to protect you and Beau no matter what? Do you not understand that. Every --
IVETTE: Obviously, James didn't protect me if Janelle thinks that I'm this mean kind of person, because I have told her to help out and clean just as much as you have.
APRIL: Y'all have not gotten along --
IVETTE: Maggie has been more cold to her than I have ever been more cold to her. Maggie has been way more sarcastic to her than I have ever been sarcastic to her. So let's not say that James is protecting me probably. Let's not say that. You're saying a lot of things that don't make sense.
APRIL: Okay. I mean, that's why I -- I don't even know why we even have conversations, because I'm never going to be right. That's the bottom line. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I can't even -- you're not even listening to me. You think that I think you're some horrible person and stuff. When the game is over, you will sit back and you'll look at the game and you'll see what -- you'll go from start to finish and just think about things. That's what I did. And I tried to think of certain things. I thought, you know, I saw some things. And it's my fault. I'm not blaming things on -- yeah, I mean, yeah, Maggie has had an influence on me; Beau's had an influence on me; Jennifer's had an influence on me. I hung out with you the most. I'm not sitting here saying, because I hung out with you, I solely blame you for it, but I have listened to you the most because I looked up to you and I listened to you and you were the most vocal person. There are a lot of things that I feel like I've done in this game that I did because of listening versus what I would do. That is my fault. I'm not blaming you for it. I'm not blaming Maggie for it. I'm not blaming anyone for it. It's my fault.
MAGGIE: But I want you to know that it does make us feel like sh*t.
APRIL: I understand.
MAGGIE: Like, when I -- now, when I have conversations with you both, I feel like sh*t for even being in this house, so I go to the Diary Room -- and you saw me last night. I f*cking bawl because I'm here.
APRIL: Well, this house -- I mean, what I've done has made me feel like sh*t. I mean, I think we all agree that we probably would not do this over again, and if we did, we wouldn't make friends in this house.
MAGGIE: See, I don't feel that way.
IVETTE: I don't feel that way either.
APRIL: I -- I mean --
MAGGIE: I would not play this game without my friends.
APRIL: Number one, I wouldn't play this game.
MAGGIE: Right, but then --
APRIL: Number two --
MAGGIE: My friends in this house is what's made me stay in here.
APRIL: I would do -- I would do some things differently.
IVETTE: I would never sit here and say --
APRIL: I am so happy about meeting you guys.
MAGGIE: But we couldn't have helped --
APRIL: Oh, my God. I would never take that back.
IVETTE: I will never accept that. I will never accept that. My feelings have been so hurt by you now. That is the kind of person that I am. I will leave this house and Maggie and I will be the same way. And I will never say that I would have done things differently in this house, that's people's influence on me on things in this house --
APRIL: No. If I had to play it again with --
IVETTE: I will never forget you blaming your actions on me.
APRIL: I'm not blaming my actions --
IVETTE: I will never forget that. Okay?
APRIL: I'm not blaming my actions on you.
IVETTE: The person that I am in this house is the person who I am outside of this house.
APRIL: Uh-huh.
IVETTE: People may not agree with my character. Some people might. All I can tell you is as much as I've given you guys my hundred percent in this house is the way I am outside. The way I have put myself out there for you guys is the same way I would do outside of this house. I have done nothing but constantly protect the people that I love in this house.
APRIL: Ivette, I do love you.
IVETTE: I stood by Eric to the moment that he left. I continued to love him and still do things for him in this house regardless of being called a psycho because I love somebody in this house, and yet I'm the mean person? Yet I'm the person making up things about people and saying mean things about people when I'm called a psycho because I'm honoring somebody I felt played a wonderful game and got cheated out of a good game?
MAGGIE: She's not the one saying these things, though.
IVETTE: No, but she doesn't defend anything, like when she told me --
APRIL: How am I --
MAGGIE: She does.
IVETTE: -- the first week about Michael, I did nothing but f*cking defend her. Do you know that they blame you [April] and Jennifer everything about f*cking Michael?
APRIL: Yeah. You're included in that.
IVETTE: I'm included in that?
APRIL: Uh-huh.
IVETTE: What in the f*ck did I say?
APRIL: Do you understand people --
IVETTE: Do you understand that they tell you pretty things and then they tell other people pretty things?
APRIL: Ivette, yes, I'm not stupid.
IVETTE: Because I went in there, and when they asked me if I called him a sexual predator, I NEVER called him a sexual harrasser.
APRIL: No one ever called him a sexual predator. You understand that, right?
IVETTE: I want to know what blame I have for f*cking Michael.
APRIL: They're going to -- again, they're going to say different things to different people.
IVETTE: What did they have to tell you about Michael?
APRIL: Ivette, I've -- I've -- I've gotten so much information throughout this whole game that I haven't said a lot of because I know that it doesn't matter, and I know that a lot of the stuff that is said is not true. Just like you. I'm sure you -- I'm sure you've heard a lot of things that -- I mean, you even said James tells you a lot of information that you don't even say over again.
IVETTE: I've said everything that James has said.
APRIL: But you said -- I remember one day --
IVETTE: I've said -- I said --
APRIL: -- you said, "There's some things I don't tell y'all because there's no need to tell y'all, that James tells me." You specifically said that. I know what's true.
MAGGIE: Well, we don't share information if it's not necessary, we think it's a lie, and we think it will hurt someone.
IVETTE: All I know is that yesterday, since I won the Power of Veto, I asked you to forgive me for getting excited. I asked you on a number of occasions to forgive me for getting excited, and all you could do is ignore me.
APRIL: I remember you said in the gym that you were sorry. Upstairs you pretty much yelled at me and walked out at the end. You didn't even give me a chance to speak. I mean, I feel like whenever you and I talk, like, you're constantly screaming at me and you're not giving me a chance to speak my mind. And I'm not saying that that makes you right; I'm not saying that makes you wrong. I mean, I also like to talk and not -- I mean, it's proof. Even the day that we were -- you know, Maggie had gathered us in the Gold Room, and I was trying to be as fair as possible and say, "Look. Let's just say we hear things differently; we interpret things differently." That is true, Ivette. Everyone hears and interprets things differently than each other. That is absolutely true. And you were not wanting to accept that and you were saying, "No, I'm not going to -- right now I don't want" -- you had every right to say that. You had every right. You had every right. The deal is, is you're stubborn; I'm stubborn. Bottom line. I don't want you to think that because you won the Power of Veto, I'm saying all this sh*t. That's not it. The game is over for me. So when it's over, you think about what you've done in this house and what make you've made on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you walk out of here, what are people going to think about you? I wonder how I was portrayed. I wonder, you know, this decision, and things like that. I have no problem with this being over for me. Absolutely not. And for you to say that I ever said that the money was important, that is bullsh*t. I have never -- I didn't even come in this house looking at the money. I know you did because you've mentioned on several occasions you did this for your family and to help your family out and to get them out of a rut. I did not coming -- I did not come in here looking at the money. I took the money out of it. And I have said on several occasions, "I wish there wasn't even money at the end of this." Because I think people act differently the closer people get to it. And I even started to somewhat in my head think differently. And I said, I can't do that. That is wrong. The money is not important to me. And trust me, on several occasions, there have been people, Jennifer included, saying -- which has p*ssed me off, "April doesn't need the money. She has money." No one in here can sit here and say anything about me because outside of here, you don't know what I have and what I don't know have and, like, how much I make and how much my husband makes. You know, that's why I kept saying throughout this whole process that we all -- if we make it, we all deserve the money. We've all lasted through this horrible experience, this crazy experience, this grueling experience. I don't feel like someone deserves it more over the other person. And I even said from day one, I'm not going to vote -- at the end of this, if I'm on the jury, I'm not going to vote for someone because they need it over another person. I'm not going to vote for someone because -- I'm going to vote with my heart. I'm not going to vote for someone because they played a better game than the other person. I'm going to vote for someone that I feel played with a good heart. I don't care how much money they make. I don't care how much money they have. I've never made money the object.
MAGGIE: No, we know that.
APRIL: Ever.
MAGGIE: Or else the friendship wouldn't have -- do you -- like, I know that you --
APRIL: Well, I mean, she said that I started mentioning the money and how much the money was to me. I've never said that. I've never said that. Never. I wanted the money out of this. I remember, gosh, when --
IVETTE: April, you don't think that I know --
APRIL: I have made mistakes.
IVETTE: April, you don't think that I know that I were sitting at the end with you, you would win; that if I'm sitting at the end with Maggie, Maggie wins; that if I'm sitting at the end with Janelle, Janelle probably wins?
MAGGIE: But that's how we all feel.
IVETTE: I'm not f*cking winning over any of you people, okay? I'm not winning over any of you people. I've accepted that a f*cking long time ago.
MAGGIE: But don't you see that we all see that?
IVETTE: No, I've accepted that a long time ago. Okay? I've known that April will never vote for me had I been at the end of this game.
APRIL: You don't know that.
IVETTE: I know that Rachel won't. I know -- but, you know, it really hurts when people mention it even more. I don't care. All I wanted to do --
APRIL: I'm sorry if I made you feel that way.
IVETTE: All I wanted to do was get -- all I wanted to do was get that Veto for my mom. It's not about me staying. It was about showing that I can have some strength and stay in this game. That's the only reason why I wanted it. I have made it as far as I thought I was going to make it. And I said it a long time ago. I was content with all that I had done in this game.
MAGGIE: We know that.
APRIL: I think we all were very content. We had all said that we were very happy at where we were and how far we made it. I guarantee that if you go on, because I think they did polls like before, on who they thought would be at the end, I don't think any four of us were probably in there to make it at the end. We've all made it this far. I never would have thought in a million years I would be at the end of this.
IVETTE: You know, I think it's funny, like, yesterday when you were all sitting at the dining table and April -- and Janelle says, "April, I'm sure America loves you. You're not one of the sh*t talkers."
MAGGIE: Yeah, that really hurt my feelings.
APRIL: I know. I know. It wasn't nice. I don't know why she said it. I was just saying, "Damn, I think America hates us."
IVETTE: You know, we've all accepted that we sent back their present and that's probably why America doesn't like us.
APRIL: Why do you think I came clean with Janelle? I feel like sh*t.
IVETTE: I don't, because I know the sh*t she's talked about me, and I know all the sh*t she's talked about you.
APRIL: I mean, I --
IVETTE: Do two wrongs make a right? Absolutely not, but I'm not going to sit here --
APRIL: Yeah, but when you hear -- did you hear that from James? Yeah. So, see, we can't --
IVETTE: I heard that from Beau. Beau was sitting in the room when she trash talked all of us.
MAGGIE: Uh-huh.
IVETTE: Beau. And you're going to tell me that my partner -- my partner couldn't even tell me -- he won't even tell me --
APRIL: Calm down.
IVETTE: He won't even tell me the things that she has said about me, because he says they're so horrible he would never want to hurt my feelings, and I'm sure you heard it. I still don't know to this day what she has said about me, because he doesn't have the heart to tell me. [From my perspective, what Janelle has said about all of the "mean girls" hasn't been nearly as bad as the Janelle bashing that has gone on each and every single day in the BB house. Just my person opinion.]
IVETTE: I don't think I'm better than anybody, but I can tell you one damn thing and that's for damn sure: I am a much better person than her, and no one is going to take that away from me. [Toot-toot] Like I told you girls, it wasn't even about me going to see that thing. I said, "How could America not love the two of you?"
MAGGIE: We're not -- no one is saying --
APRIL: I'm not saying that you're a bad person, Ivette.
MAGGIE: -- that she's a good person. No one is complimenting her in any way.
IVETTE: No. It's just pretty much being said, too, that we were so horrible to her without reason, and that's bothering me.
MAGGIE: See, I don't feel that way. I don't feel that we were horrible to her without a reason.
APRIL: I mean, I definitely can sit here and say that I think that I've said some things --
MAGGIE: I can't argue with what America thinks.
APRIL: -- that I shouldn't have said. That's why -- I mean, of all things, I'm more upset with myself. I don't want you to think that I'm blaming anything on you. I am
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Disneyisme - RECAP of the day.... 0 Replies #2469935 5:58PM 12/09/2005
10:30 AM

BB finally forced these girls out of bed at 10:30 this morning. BB told them in a stern voice at about 10:22 "I said it's time to get UP!" Maggie and April are in the GR, still in the dark, Maggie has her arm around April and they tell BB “we don’t care. We don’t want to get up.” April says “What are they gonna do, fire me? So, I'll leave a day early.” They talk about how they hear high heels walking behind the wall. April says "Jimmy Choos.” Maggie says “can’t they get her some house shoes? Why is she in heels back there?” 10 minutes later BB told them to turn on the lights. Maggie calls them c*** suckers.

Ivette is up and doing laundry and Janelle is in her HOH room with the lights on, still in bed. April and Maggie are still in bed, albeit they have the lights on now. They are talking about how hard it will be to get back into a normal routine once they are home. Maggie says “Maybe I should just go back to the night shift when I return. I haven’t worked that shift in a few years.”

Maggie and April are up and head outside with their coffee. April asks Maggie “What kind of body type do I have?” Maggie answers “A 12 year old boy's….” April asks “Did you think I was too skinny when we met?” Maggie: “Yes, you are extremely beautiful, but you were so skinny it looked unnatural. Your face always looked good, not like an eating disorder face. Your face looked perfect…” April: “I have always been skinny….” Maggie “The extra 10 pounds looks really good on you. Remember how Lisa (past BB) looked? You looked skinny like her.” April says “I liked her body.”

Outside, April asks Maggie “When do you think we will get our checks?” Maggie says she doesn’t know. April asks her “I know you don't like talking about it, but what would you do if you saw your name on a $500,000 check?” Maggie again says she doesn’t know. April presses her “What would you spend it on first?” Maggie says “clothes, I need clothes. Then I will talk to Eric, I want to donate to fire dept, they always need stuff. I'd donate to humane society. Dave donates to a lot of charities, I need to do more. I may refinance, my interest rate is too high.”

THEN, Maggie says "I never really thought about what I would do with the money, I planned on Eric winning.” Maggie says she wants to send her parents to Europe, and set up a college fund for Eric's kids, because that's what he came here for, to send his kids to college. Then Maggie says she would love to take a manager from an animal shelter to Pet Smart and say “whatever you need….” April says “I would definitely want to do that, wish I could do it in Vegas with you.”

April says “I don't know how BB does the money and checks. We have to set aside the money for taxes right away. I will get my $9,000 for being here, plus the $3,000.00 I won…” Then Maggie and April talk about doing for everyone what they said once before. Maggie wants to take Jennifer shopping for a purse. April says whoever is at end; we all got there with the help of everyone else. April stipulates that you have to do good with the money or no good will come of it.
April says “I only go shopping twice a year, but I splurge….” Maggie says “I don't splurge, but I go once every 2 weeks, and will buy like 3 tank tops for $20. I feel good about that.”

11:00 AM

April went inside to the WC and Ivette came over to Maggie. She is in a very sour mood this morning. Maggie tells Ivette that she and April were up real late last night. Ivette asks “Why, what were you doing?” Maggie says “Just talking about everything that went on here, all the things we did….” Ivette sarcastically says “Oh, about all the things influenced by ME?!” (Referring back to yesterday's fight with April). Maggie says “No, Ivette not about things influenced by ‘you’.”

Ivette is really mad right now, Maggie says to her that April is really fine with leaving. Ivette says “That’s great, she just had to make me feel like sh*t before she left.” Ivettes says “April shouldn't blame everything on me that she did in this house!” April was heading back outside, so Ivette yelled for her to leave the door open, then left and went inside.

April says to Maggie “So what was she ranting and raving about? I stayed inside, because I could see her from inside.” Maggie says “Same stuff, blaming you, saying you aren’t taking responsibility.” April says “I did too take responsibility.”

They start to talk about April leaving. Maggie says “I'm not saying good-bye to you.” April begs “Please do because I know Janelle will say something nice, but….” Then she says into her mic “BB I'd prefer not hear Ivette's good-bye message, if you don't mind (laughing) please, please, please...” Maggie says to BB “Play Maggie's twice (laughs)” April “Yeah, play Maggies like 5 times and then play Janelle's a couple of times.” Maggie says “I was not mean in any of my good-bye messages, I don't believe in that.”

Maggie and April talk about some of what happened in the past, especially in the pressure cooker. Maggie says: Jen was made to promise that she would put me up...” April confirms that. Maggie says “Kaysar made her promise to put me up (shrugs shoulders) what am I supposed to do with that? Kaysar was so upset that Jen lied to him about getting me out, but he promised me on everything that was holy to him that he would not put me up if he won HOH, right to my face! Then the second I was out of the pressure cooker, he said to Jennifer ‘put Maggie up’. April says “No Jennifer told me, she said to Kaysar ‘who do you want up? I know one of them is Maggie’ ...Maggie interjects and says defensively “No! He in the pressure cooker said he wanted me out not ‘up’. Jennifer is the one that told me that.” Maggie says “One of the reasons that I wanted Kaysar out, was because he promised me on everything that was holy and then immediately gunned for me at least that is what Jen told me, and I trust her.”

Maggie says that there isn’t much damage that James can to do to her in sequester that he didn’t do in the house. But then she says “Maybe he can still do damage, maybe you will get to sequester and Jen will be like ‘OMG, James said this and that about Maggie’, I don’t know, what can I do about that? I just have to trust.” April whispers “James said that he would never vote for you because he didn't want Eric to have any part of that money...” Maggie: “I know, I just think that's such a mean thing!” Ivette is heading outside again now. Maggie changes the topic back to the antics of last night when she and April were messing with BB. Ivette couldn’t look less thrilled and got up and went to do her laundry.

Janelle finally got up at around 11:30 and can be seen in the HOH getting dressed. Right about this time BB told Maggie to stop singing and she said “I will stop when Janelle comes down.”

12:00 NOON

April and Maggie are outside again. April is telling Maggie that she feels Ivette controlled her in the game “but it’s my fault for allowing it.” She says “Ivette is not good at handling things, she yells and cusses and you can get a word in edge wise.” She continues saying “because Ivette is so vocal it’s hard not to hear her and listen to what she says. I made a lot of decisions based on what she wanted.”

12:30 Feeds cut and the screen went black and said no signal. Then we got FISH. There was a power outage in parts of LA area and Hollywood that lasted for quite some time. The feeds finally came back at around 2:15 PM

2:15 PM

When the feeds finally return, we come back to a very angry looking Ivette lying in bed watching Maggie help April pack and Janelle is in the BY walking laps.

Maggie and April are talking about what April should wear for eviction and for interviews. April says she is angry about them being locked down from 6:00 PM tonight until sometime tomorrow. Maggie wants to be sure Dave comes for her when she gets out, but someone must take care of the dogs. April says “that's why I don’t want my mom to come; she is taking care of Pepperoni.” They both are heartened that the BB voices said they talked to Dave and Matt. Ivette leaves the bedroom and heads for the kitchen.

Now April is outside doing some laundry and Maggie and Ivette are in the kitchen. Ivette starts to talk about April and says to Maggie “you are the only one I’ve got right now.” Maggie responds “I don't want to talk about it right now, 2 great friends having a hard time with each other is horrible to me.” Maggie goes to take a shower.

April heads outside now to play volleyball with Janelle. They've set up rules in and are using folded towels to mark the ‘out of bounds’ area. The wind is carrying the light volleyball, causing it to spin a little. They both appear to be having a lot of fun and laughing. Ivette right now is in the kitchen alone, eating.

3:00 PM

April and Janelle are done playing volleyball. Janelle says how weird it is that the show is almost over. April says she is glad to be leaving earlier (than Thursday) now that she knows she is the one going. Janelle tells her she wishes she were staying.

April says to Janelle “Maggie will be nice to you. Ivette WAS being nice to you.” Janelle says “How can Ivette say that I didn't have any friends in this house? I had Ashlea, Michael, Kaysar, Rachel, Howie, James and Sarah AND you. That's more friends than SHE has. She is being hypocritical.” April admits to saying a few things of her own in the game that was not nice and is hypocritical, and her explanation for this was ‘she was listening to what other people told her’. She said “It is my fault that I based my opinions on what other people told me.” She also let on that James was the root of most of the problems in the house. Lastly April advised Janelle to just tell Ivette that she just doesn’t want to hear it if Ivette starts to tell Janelle stories after April leaves.

April tells Janelle that she was able to see the moves she made in the last HOH competition, but didn’t want to cheat so she stopped looking over at her. Shortly after saying this April was called to the DR.

Now, Ivette is exercising by walking around the backyard and Maggie is sitting in a lawn chair. Ivette is saying how she doesn't want to wake up anymore, she has nothing to look forward to except home, she is worried about what April will say about her in sequester, how it's not fair that she won't get to defend herself. Ivette says “I hate it when I love people. I distance myself from them after they hurt me. I hate that I cared about her and trusted her. Oh well, I only have 8 days of this ridiculousness then I can go home.” Ivette said she's never been a quitter but she wanted to quit so bad. Ivette checks the dryer, and then when she heads inside, she opens the sliding doors and yells “HEY!!” We could hear the BB theme song (like Housecalls) playing, then we get FISH.

When we return from our FISH break, it was evident the music didn’t mean anything. Ivette is back to walking around outside and is asking Maggie how many feet are in a mile. Maggie says she has no clue. After a long silence, Ivette says “It sucks, it all sucks.” No comment from Maggie.

After a short while, Ivette sits down next to Maggie and they start to quiz each other, getting ready for any competition coming their way.

5:00 PM

Just before 5:00 PM, Maggie, Janelle and April were inside making Nachos (Ivette is outside on the hammock) when they notice the pictures on the wall change to Janelle’s evening out at the set of Two and a Half Men. They were all excited about it again, April and Maggie said how cool it must have been….Janelle looked at the photos a lot, reminiscing about her trip to the set.

April, Maggie and Janelle all go outside to eat their food, while Ivette remains alone on the hammock. They are eating nachos and Maggie says “I don’t eat these at home.” Janelle asks “why because they're fattening?” Maggie says “No…” and doesn't elaborate on her answer. April says she'll be sitting at home watching a reality TV show with her nachos and Pepperoni at her side & Matt will be at work because that's where he always is. Janelle asks “How many hours does he work a week?” April responds “Around 80.” Janelle: “Wow!” (Yeah, wow is right!)

Maggie says to April “You could come to Vegas and be a stay at home wife and you could take care of my kids.” April says “Oh yea, so you're kids could learn to have a potty mouth (laughing).” Janelle starts poking fun too and says “Yea, the kids will be saying "you're a mo-fo.” Maggie responds “That's what your kids are gonna' say. Mine are gonna be like, ‘Mom, why are you so nice?’

While they are outside eating, Ivette is inside, depressed as she has been. She first looked at the memory wall of Janelle’s pictures, and then started to play with the coasters. She keeps looking over her shoulder towards the BY in case anyone might happen to come in and feel sorry for her.

Back outside and April asking them if anyone called her a hick in the DR. Janelle says “no” and Maggie responds “yes.” Then of course we got FISH.

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Topic #2470089
Steveman68 - Had fish for a few minutes; now no HG's are seen on any feed NT 0 Replies #2470089 6:09PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470091
GreenEyes - Feeds are back... but show only empty rooms of the house. No HG's, no voices...erie... NT 0 Replies #2470091 6:09PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470099
joshuajared2000 - Blackout affects BB, *ignore*sorry hit the refresh button 0 Replies #2470099 6:09PM 12/09/2005
The Black outs in La are affecting every thing. including BB. Fox news says tv shows may experience single loss's and absollute power failiers as generators are used up before power is restored. expect fish
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Topic #2470102
Panda4 - Fish since approx. 6:00p.m. NT 0 Replies #2470102 6:09PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470110
Woolly - no HG's on feeds. Keep showing the bunny , the memory wall and the picture disks NT 0 Replies #2470110 6:09PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470207
Woolly - All HG's just came out of DR NT 0 Replies #2470207 6:16PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470218
imnotpunk - Janelle trips over her wire and falls on the floor, HGs go to feed the fish NT 1 Replies #2470218 6:17PM 12/09/2005
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Suzan - She's rolling on the floor and Maggie just walks past her, Janelle looks like she's having fun. NT #2470634 6:53PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470256
imnotpunk - April and Janelle having fun feeding the fish, Maggie watches. Ivette has returned to the MBR to pout more NT 0 Replies #2470256 6:21PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470288
kaysar_and_janie - janie got on the chair with april to see how she feeds the fish, and janie said, "oh, that reeks....oh, wait, that's you." (lol) 0 Replies #2470288 6:23PM 12/09/2005
ivette is crying while lying on her bed, in the room alone.
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Topic #2470310
imnotpunk - Maggie: I love being naked! NT 0 Replies #2470310 6:25PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470356
imnotpunk - Janelle asking April which fish belong to who...every fish has a name! Janelle wants "Teddy" NT 0 Replies #2470356 6:30PM 12/09/2005
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Topic #2470382
kaysar_and_janie - ivette is working on a riddle that maggie gave her. NT 0 Replies #2470382 6:31PM 12/09/2005
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