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| CougarSpy - ~3:00-3:20 pm BBT – Ivette on Tush, Janelle on Michael and last boyfriend. All hamsters in community bedroom (about 20 minutes of conversation). |
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#2420619 8:25PM 08/09/2005 |
3pm BBT – Ivette on Tush, Janelle on Michael and last boyfriend. All hamsters in community bedroom (about 20 minutes of conversation).
Come into conversation with Howie saying, oh Tush, oh Tush.
M – How soon after you were dating did you tell her you loved her?
I – Uhm…
H – A month?
I – laugh
J – How long does it take?
A – I’m hoping it’s 3 days.
J – How long did it take to tell her you loved her?
I – Uhm, let see…Tush and I started messing around in July. So…in August when she left to Camen (sp) Islands. I knew that, I knew that I didn’t want to mess around. If I had decided that I wanted to mess around and not get serious with anybody and when I kissed Maggie at this club I knew I didn’t want to mess around with her. And then we, uhm, a week later we had sex and I definitely knew I had not felt that way with somebody…
M – How long did you know her before you had sex? <prissy, condescending voice>
I – Only like a week, week and a half, I have know her since I was 13. I’ve know her since I was younger, like 11 or 12.
<Howie in background making laser sounds as he swings Jedi laser around room>
M – Oh, okay. [look of disgust and disapproval on Maggie’s face.]
J – How come that shocks you, like a week …You’re acting like you’ve never done that before.
M – No I haven’t.
J – You’re shocked or something?
H – It makes you promiscuous and flirtatious…
M – <inaudible>
H – It depends on what Maggie?
M – It’s not something I would do.
I – I don’t kiss someone that I don’t think I’ll hook up with or be girl friends with so I’ve never slept with someone that not going to be my boyfriend…girlfriend.
M – That’s what you said.
I – So anyways, when I had sex with Tush, I knew I had never felt this way with anybody and I knew that I wanted more from her so when she came over to my house again to mess around she was like I don’t want anything serious and I was like well, your not someone I just want to fool around with. If I’m going to fool around, it’s not going to be with you, because, I don’t get that fooling around feeling with you and so then we just kept on back and forth and I knew I was head over heals with her. And so I told her don’t call me anymore, you know…
April - <inaudible – actually talking to Janelle about her hair>
I – So I was like don’t call me anymore because…that’s fine but I want to mess around with other people but I don’t want to mess around with you. You’re not someone I want to mess around with, then we went our separate ways kind of…and then she figured, then she knew it wasn’t worth messing around and she wanted to be with me so we got together and she asked me to be her girlfriend once she went to the Camen Islands…
M – How long was she gone for?
I – Two weeks
H – Did you guys <inaudible> <Howie now sitting on bed near Ivette, Maggie still on bed opposite Ivette, looking at her with legs folded Indian style, elbows resting on legs with hands claps below her chin.>
I – She went with her parents; they had already bought the tickets before and I never told you I loved you at first…I had just told her I’m falling...
M – You said it first?
I – No, I had just said I was falling…
J – You what?
H and I – I’m falling…
I – I just told her that for awhile and then we both told each other finally.
M – So who said it first?
I – I think she did. I think she uhm …
J – I’ve never said it first.
H – Really?
I – I think she did.
**Ivette’s story briefly interrupted**
J – Well, one time… <Janelle was combing her hair; she now starts walking toward where April is sitting.>
April - <inaudible> You make ??? by telling me the truth… <April is sitting on bed and Janelle bear hugs her.>
H – Who Janee, Michael?
J – Noooo
A – One time…
J – It doesn’t count…
A – It doesn’t count because she was drunk…
M – Can you pick that up from the floor? <Something fell off bed April was on>
J – Uhm, sorry…<Janelle puts it back on bed>
A – I think this bed is broken…
J – I jumped on it…
H – We were having a light saber fight…
M – Where’s my underwear? <or just my underwear>
**Ivette continues story**
I – So I was falling for my Tush…
M – Thanks <for Janelle picking up must have been Maggie’s clothes that fell>
I – Had fallen, so just like that…
M – What? It took about a month then?
I – I’d say a month and a half. Yeah, almost, a month and a half…but, I knew.
<Maggie cuts off Ivette, turns toward April as Maggie is folding her underwear>
M – How long till you told Matt do you think?
A – It was like 3 or 4 months, about 3. How long for you, do you remember?
M – I don’t remember.
A – About 3
I – Yours was probably about 6, before you went to Boston?
M – No, it was long before I went to Boston
I – Okay, yeah, you just know, you just know when you love that person.
M – It was in <inaudible>
I – Maggie’s the first person that I ever dated too that has the same background like me.
M – What do you mean?
I – Like the exact same that her parents would do anything for her…her brothers and her, they could live back at home. She’s had the exact like upbringing that I have had.
J – That’s important in relationships.
I – We share a lot of the same, you know what I mean?
<Maggie again ignores Ivette and starts talking to Howie…>
I – Her parents…
H – Three or 4
I – Her parents aren’t as open to her as my parents are, their not as open but she…as she was going to school, she was living at home with her first girlfriend. See what I mean, so her parents are accepting like mine, and…
A – I’d hope that any parents would if you’re going to live back at home would accept, but there are some parents that wouldn’t…
I – There are some parents that would accept you living at home and being gay with your girlfriend? I’m sure there are a bunch of parents like that.
**JANELLE’S LOVE STORIES***
J – I’ve had two guys tell me, but they told me when they were drunk. Then afterwards, when they were sober, they did tell me that they really loved me.
H – I would have told you on the first date.
A – You’ve had some long relationships…
Howie singing loudly, “JANEE, I LOVE YOU…”
J - <missed this part> …relationship with. I’ve never been single…since I was maybe 15? I’ve always has a boyfriend.
H – You must have been something.
A – Yeah…I’ve kind of been like that as well…
<Howie know walking around again with his light saber making noises>
J – I’ve never, never had a period like, that I don’t have a boyfriend. <Howie light saber sounds> Never!
I – Do you consider Michael your boyfriend now?
H – Absolutely!
J – Uhm,
H – There’s 14 houseguests here, who did he call…not us. <Janelle laughs and moves her body into Howie.> He could have called anyone in America <J laughs again> toll f&ckin free…he called Janee. <J laughs again>
A – Oh…
H – Michael, who did he call?
A – He couldn’t have called anyone in America.
J – Yeah he could.
H – He wasn’t at the dollhouse??? That night, he was calling Janee.
J – The what?
H - …the Yellow Pages, he had thousands of escort services…
J – Yeah right?
H - ???? I need my Janee <Howie kisses Janee on cheek>
I – So you consider him your boyfriend?
J – I mean, I’m not going to go around calling him my boyfriend because…I like having the talk…we talked about what we are going to do when we’re out of here, but I haven’t said like, ‘oh Michael, you’re my boyfriend.’ Do you know what I mean? He hasn’t called me his girlfriend I’m sure.
H – Let me help you with this one. When you dump your boyfriend on national television…Michael became the new boyfriend. When Anakin killed Count Dooku, he became Lord of the Sith’s apprentice.
I – Why, why did you break up with him?
J – Oh…I was supposed to break up with him along time ago but hadn’t gotten around to it, because we hadn’t seen each other and stuff and…
A – You saw him right before you came out here you said?
J – No, I saw him for like…but it didn’t count…at the airport. But, I didn’t get to like sit down with him, have a talk…but I knew I didn’t want to be with him. I just didn’t get around to breaking up with him, I was procrastinating…breaking up with him. So I just…
H - <inaudible>
J - …do it when I get back. By then our relationship should have just fizzled…
H – She saw me the first night, Oh god the men…
J – Oh, Right <sarcasm>
H – …in this house…<groaning sound>
J – He’s a really nice guy but he’s just not for me. He’s really, really, really nice. <pause> He’s very sweet. He’s uhm…
H – No points for second place in this world Janee.
J – The problem with him was like…he had this like...he irritated me. Do you know what I mean, like there were things he would do that would really get on my nerves.
I – Hmmm; A - <inaudible>
H – Metro sexual
J – Hmmm. He would get like his nails and toes done and stuff …he’s was like…
H – Ohh…
A – He was like girly, girly…than you which bothered you.
J – He wasn’t girly, he was kind of like wimpy.
H – He was a nerd.
J – Like no, He wasn’t a nerd. He was kind of wimpy, like he had this thing like talk like baby talk and I hated it.
H – <Howie mocking baby talk and puts his face into Janelle’s saying, “Hi little Janee!...”
J – yeah, like he would talk baby talk and I’d be like <high pitched ooo> I hate that. It’s like my biggest pet peeve in the whole world. We’d only known each other like…
A – Four months, right?
J – yeah, it’s my biggest pet peeve when a guy talks to me like that it’s just like freaks me out.
I – Where did you meet him?
H – Were you having sex with him too? <not sure if this is what Howie said.>
J – I would never…I want a guy to be manly not like a woos (sp). You know what I mean? He was so sweet and nice to me and stuff though …
M - <looking at Howie playing with his light saber> He’s such a dork.
J – Howie!
A – You’re so funny.
J – It was a combination of that and just like, I couldn’t like…he didn’t…I could walk all over him. <Janelle using hand movements to show frustration.> Do you know what I mean? And it just really bothered me that he just couldn’t stand up for himself.
H – He was a pussy.
I – And so, how do you think you will get along with Michael?
J – Good! I think really well.
I – So when he tells you to wear something are you going to be totally okay with it?
J – I’m not going to listen to that sh!t.
H – When he tells you to wear what?
J – I’m going to say listen…
H – Say that again Ivette, he’s going to…
I – When he tells her not to wear this and not to wear that…
J – He’s not going to tell me not to wear something.
H – Inaduible.
J – I’ll be like, okay, see you later a$$hole.
Janelle and Howie laughing
J – Go f&ck yourself
H - <shouts> Screw you Michael.
J – I’ll be flipping him off all the way to… <Janelle raising both hands flipping the bird>
H – Like James did? <inaudible>
J – He would never say that. He’d never be like “Janelle, don’t wear that.”
H – Or James’s veto, his piñata, that was awesome. He left it too…
A – What about his blue shirt?
H – He left it.
J – He just said I didn’t look good because my nipples were showing. He’s right. I needed some pasties for that outfit. I still can’t wear it because my nipples are like -- it's so see-through. It’s just common sense that I shouldn’t wear it. it's common sense; i shouldn't wear it. He’s just helping me out. Uhm, I think Michael and I are getting, or going to get along pretty well.
I – That’s good then.
H - …let them test drive each other.
J – Howie!
H – to see if they like each other.
I – Know what I say to that? I would never want bad for you…I would just give you the heads up because you think like that. You know what I’m saying…you like a guy that’s in control…
J – Yeah, I do. I really don’t like a guy who’s a fr&ckin woos. You know what I mean?
H - <Saber sounds>
I – Hmm
J – Get out of here <Janelle trying to push Howie and his light saber away. Both laughing>
I – If he floats your boat, by all means.
J – Someone that’s like…the guy I was dating before was just like whiny…like whiny, do you know what I mean? I had to make all the decisions.
H - <Making crying noises in background> Waaa! Waaa!
J – Do you know what I mean?
I – Michael was definitely good at making decisions.
J – Yeah, and I like that I don’t want to be like ‘Okay, like he’d come to me for advice, but I don’t like that. Hehe, I like to go to the guy for advice. I never know what to do. Do you know what I mean? He was kind of like whiny and …he was really nice, the nicest…
A – You’re like missing your thing? <??>
J – He’s like…
A – No you’re…
J – Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah…That’s fine.
J – Uhm, he was like one of the nicest guys if ….he’s very like <inaudible few sentences> He’s very generous, very giving…
H – What a fat piece of sh!t I am…
J – But, …
A – What time is it now?
<inaudible and people moving around while Janelle tries to fix something on shirt.
J – I wear lingerie…
I – You don’t feel what?
J – I don’t know, the whole thing when we met I was drunk and …
A – Ten after 3.
J – I generally have this rule where I never date anyone from work, because working that’s not really me. Do you know what I mean?
I – What is Michael asked you to stop working at Mansion?
J – I’d tell him to go f&ck himself.
I – You would?
J – Hmmhmm. Definitely.
H - <in his BB3 Lori voice> Sure
J – My Mom didn’t want me working at Mansion, she went by the place and said it looked like a strip club, cause you know how…you’ve seen it…
H - …the whole street though…
J - …there’s lights like it’s a movie theatre and it’s all lit up…
H – Inaudible <Ivette laughing along with Howie and Janelle> The whole street looks like, you know…
J - <pans hand out> There’s all those lights and stuff and it’s got like words on it like this week feature…laughing
H – Hmmhmm
J – It’s like an old movie theatre like when you go in it, she’s like “ahhh”..
H – You see, “I dream of Janee…”
J – My mom’s like, “oh my god,” Howie laughs…
A – How many girls work there? Or how many waitresses?
J – Waitresses? There’s 15.
H – Here’s the way I see it. Everyone puts like a strippers job…you have strippers that are like professionals. Yes they get naked. They make their money. They don’t let guys do anything obscene to them and they go home. Then they go home to their family. Then you got those strippers that are getting drunk with their clients, using drugs, f&cking them in the back room and…you have your trashy strippers and you have your normal strippers. You got your lying, not lawyers…you’ve got your bad doctors and you have your good doctors, you have your bad policemen and you have your good policemen…same thing…
I – that’s true
H – You’ve got your strippers that are totally normal…they’re normal people just making a living.
I – I’m sure there are a lot of mothers who are strippers in Vegas, right?
H – Hell ya…
J – I’m just a waitress you guys, let’s get this straight. I’m just a waitress.
I – I know that.
<Howie comes over and kisses Janee on cheek>
J – But I do…I’m like a very good waitress, I’m very friendly and I’m like the nicest person at work. Honestly, there are girls that are really mean to the customers…they’ve told the guys to f&ck off before or get the f&ck out…
H – It’s not good for tips…
J – they’ll be like at the guy, get the f&ck out and yell at them and stuff and I’ve never done that. I’m like really, really nice. You know what I mean…it could be like the boss’s friend or something…
H – Right…
J - …and that would like freak me out…
H – Like…
J - ???
H - …like what Ashlea did… <secret shopper>
J - …you called it….yeah, yeah a secret shopper…Yeah, so I give like the same service to everyone. I don’t treat someone like better than another person.
M – What do you want to do after that?
J – Real estate! <April says, “real estate” almost at the same time as Janelle.>
M – That’s right.
J – hmmhmm. Yeah, I’m really excited about going into that.
I – Your friend’s going to help you with that, right? That guy?
J – What guy?
I – That friend that was suppose to come in here with you? What’s his name again? The one you and Beau know.
J – Kenny? He’s not going to help me with real estate. Why would he help me?
I – Doesn’t he do real estate or no he does stocks?
J – He’s a stock broker. <pause> He’s a stock broker.
A – He’s a millionaire?
J – Yeah, he’s really cool. He totally looks like…he’s funny. He was suppose to come on this show with me…
??
J – He’s so funny, he’s as funny as Howie.
I – Janelle, why don’t you curl your hair the way you used too? <Janelle has been combing out her hair for over 10 minutes>
J – Cause it’s f&ck and I need to cut it…
A – I don’t like it curled I like it better like that <Janelle’s hair is straight>
J – It doesn’t even hold a curl.
I – I like it when she gives it the body like she does in the pictures.
J – Yeah, I can’t do that anymore because it’s just like it’s f7cked, I need to go to a hair salon.
I – Like why?
J – It’s just like…look at my ends.
I – It won’t do that?
J – No, that and I also ran out of the styling stuff I used. I used setting spray and then I would let it dry before I curled pieces and now I’ve been straightening my hair…you’ve got to curl it first…straighten out what’s kind of out of whack…
I – That’s the way you did it the first time at Fight Club…
J – yeah, it was curly. I’ll wear my hair curly when I get back…but know I have to wear it straight because my hair is totally f7cked. It’s disgusting.
J – Yeah, the think about my ex boyfriend was that he would…I don’t know. There was something about my ex boyfriend that wasn’t totally right. You know what I mean?
I – What did he think about you coming on this show?
J – He was all for it. Yeah, definitely.
A – It sounds like he was supportive of things. It was like he was very giving and…
J – yeah he was very supportive of everything I did.
J – I just couldn’t see him with me long term. Do you know what I mean? And I would like get irritated with the phone conversations because he was like whining to me that he missed me. It was like I miss you too, seriously.
A – How long was that flight?
J – 2.5 hours, <April replying 5 hours>
J – 2.5 hours
A – California to New York?
J – Who? He lived in New York. I live in Florida.
A – Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah…You weren’t in California…
M – Mumbles something…
I – did you fly often?
J – What?
I – Did you see him often?
J – Yeah,
I – How often?
J – Hmm, 3 times, 4 times, 4 times…
I – A month?
J – No 4 times total.
A – In 4 months?
J – Yeah <Janelle starts laughing>
A – That is a little awkward.
J – Uhm, he was working during the week, I was working during the weekends, it’s a difficult thing.
<<dead silence>>
A – Once of the boards, how did this bed break? That’s what I’m trying to understand.
H – Me and Janee had a light saber battle.
I – Was that fun?
A – What broke?
J – He was fun and stuff and he would do what ever I wanted. Do you know what I mean? I’d be like lets go do this and he’d be like okay, but he like never…like, stood up for himself.
H – Did he ever like tell you he loved you?
J – Yes
A – I got to start putting my makeup on <April gets off bed she was lying on.>
J – Yeah, but our relationship kind of like fizzled in the last 1 ½ months because…
A – Apparently, you broke up with him.
J – Well, oh yeah <Howie laughs> It was like I really didn’t want to be with him, ya know, …
H – You felt bad for him.
J - …I really didn’t want to do it over the phone, I didn’t want to do it like the half day I saw him, you know what I mean? He as on a business trip and going to be at the airport so we kind of did lunch. And I didn’t want to break up with him then. Cause like you know he was on a business trip.
H – I can understand…
J – So…
I – When did he give you the bracelet?
J – It came, it was fed-ex’d it to me. You know. I didn’t really see that much of him at all.
H – Look at her Tush…
J – I didn’t, I never saw him…only the 4 times.
April and Maggie move into bathroom and pick at their faces.
A - …everything that comes out of her mouth is a total lie because in the beginning she told me that she had seen him for a week straight before getting out here.
M – Right
A – That she hung out with him
<< Howie interrupts.>>
A – How many did you eat Howie?
H – I just had one for now. Last night I had like indigestion. <inaudible> they were like…
M – What do you think you had? Like 20?
H – Yeah…maybe I had like 10, plus the cookie dough <<must have been Sugar Cookies Maggie made last night. The ones were the batter tasted funny and Ivette told Maggie she should have Janelle check out what was missing because Janelle is a good baker. Maggie got mad at that idea and said no.>> I did have a lot though.
M – There’s still cookie dough in the frigde
H – I know that. <inaudible>
M – Inaudible
H – I’m working out know, doing cardio…for Julie I got to look good
M – That’s right.
H – Julie <using BB3 Lori’s voice> oh god…
[sounds on all four feeds strange...sounds like things moving around.
Sound comes back to Ivette and Janelle still talking in community bathroom.
I – …Do you know what I mean? That I did take that time.
J – Yeah…
I – I came out of a relationship after 4 years.
J – I should take the time…because I’ve been hopping from one relationship to the next. That’s my problem and I went to a counselor once and she said I have a male dependency disorder.
I – It’s not…It’s like…I have that problem too and like you don’t let go of one branch…
FISH
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