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Topic #2311970
yellocatt - Ivette's sob story 0 Replies #2311970 2:05AM 28/08/2005
April asked if Ivette's parents get along... Ivette says now they do. She mentions that her father was/is a workaholic and her mom has a gambling problem. She spends all of her father's money didn't save any for them. Ivette gives her about $150 a week that her mom puts in machines. She says she gives it to her because her mom is not working. When she gambles it away she says that if it is a gift from Ivette she can use it how she wants. Her dad, brother, and her continue to enable her. She says she loves bingo but its worse than that. When she plays bingo she plays 20 cards or more at a time or she's bored. She usually wins a little and that makes it worse. Ivette wants to take her to "admit it" but she won't go to self help groups. Ivette wishes she would come out of her world and see how it hurts her and everyone else. April asks "Why do you keep giving to her. You are enabling her. Bo and Maggie pipe up in support but Ivette won't. She says she wants her to be able to go shopping and get medicine. All she wants is her to see how hard she works to help her. Maggie basically says treat her like a child don't give her what she wants. Maggie compares the situation to how they lock up druggies in the ER and how they throw tantrums but she doesn't care because she is trying to help them.
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Topic #2311978
krazykjh - James & Howie talking in the Gold Room; Think Howie woke him up. 1 Replies #2311978 2:09AM 28/08/2005
James & Howie talking in the Gold Room; Think Howie woke him up.

Howie's getting in bed...

Janie is sleeping in the Big room with the beds...
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Starlady - When they were talking, Howie commented on how there were fewer dishes now that there were fewer HG's, then James #2312196 4:31AM 28/08/2005
(I think) said something to the effect that "Well Janelle leaves enough dishes around for six people!" Then they sort of laughed about that and how she leaves them in every room she is in, and how many...

Howie then said "Yeah, she said they [NH] could be her servants" James picked right up on this, chuckling and saying "Really, she said that?" Howie elaborated saying how Janelle had said that "she pays her maid more than they make, they can come work for her"... [At that moment I had zero doubt that James was looking for just such a tidbit to take to the NH to incite them and get Janelle voted out in his place this week. Oh Howie... Note that, J did say these things back when both sides were shouting back and forth and tempers went unchecked. Out of context it will seem worse than it was, without the events and comments that precipitated hers...]
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Topic #2312049
yellocatt - All HGs asleep NT 0 Replies #2312049 2:35AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2312529
kaysar_and_janie - howie's up at 7:20 bbt. goes back to bed in dorm at 7:25. NT 0 Replies #2312529 7:24AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2312683
smoosh - Howie's up. Looking for something to do with himself. Tried to feed crackers to the birds outside for a while, but now watching the fish NT 0 Replies #2312683 8:15AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2312685
smoosh - Howie went back to bed. All other HGs still asleep. NT 0 Replies #2312685 8:17AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2312823
Toronto - Beau emerges from his sleeping bag and disappears from F3. NT 0 Replies #2312823 8:57AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2312832
Toronto - Beau returns to his sleeping bag. NT 0 Replies #2312832 8:59AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2312957
kaysar_and_janie - hg's remain semi-comatose. shallow breathing. infrequent restlessness. NT 0 Replies #2312957 9:34AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313008
Toronto - James awake and foraging in storage room fridge. NT 0 Replies #2313008 9:44AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313009
kaysar_and_janie - james is up for the day. until naptime. NT 0 Replies #2313009 9:44AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313014
Toronto - James heads to toilet in BR. NT 0 Replies #2313014 9:45AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313034
Toronto - James feeding the fish. NT 0 Replies #2313034 9:53AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313072
Toronto - James sitting alone and pensively in the BY. NT 0 Replies #2313072 10:08AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313126
kaysar_and_janie - fish wakeup call NT 0 Replies #2313126 10:31AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313161
kaysar_and_janie - maggie still not over janie's flashing us thursday. NT 0 Replies #2313161 10:38AM 28/08/2005
woke up thinking about it, talking about it.
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Topic #2313181
kaysar_and_janie - ivette and james have a morning hug when she comes downstairs. maggie calling someone snugglebutt. 0 Replies #2313181 10:43AM 28/08/2005
james calling hg's 'f'ing idiots' and disgusting bc there are ants.
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Topic #2313193
kaysar_and_janie - hoh'ers watching ivette and james on spyscreen. NT 0 Replies #2313193 10:45AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313203
scoobydoo - James & Ivette Convo 0 Replies #2313203 10:48AM 28/08/2005
James: Howie and I were talking about it last night.

James & Ivette are talking about how messy Janelle is and how she leaves everything all over the place.

James: I'm not attacking her personally. She's going to be one of those people who's going to be all alone with her money. She's 25 years old and has no friends. I'm not saying this to be mean. It's so sad.
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Topic #2313215
valentine - Ivette and James Trash Janelle 0 Replies #2313215 10:50AM 28/08/2005
Ivette: There is not one place in this whole house that doesn't have her sh*t all over it. Her clothes are all over, her stuff...

James: I know. It's all over the bathroom counter.

James is pitching voting out Janelle to Ivette, obviously. He says that she could be all alone with her money and be very happy.

James: She could very well win this whole thing. But it's so sad...she doesn't even have anybody to help her move.

They are alone on the patio, spewing hate on Janelle.

James:..............you wonder how someone so consumed with greed....

And he compares her to "what he was reading in Ecclesiasties" (sp).
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Topic #2313216
scoobydoo - James & Ivette Backyard conversation continued 0 Replies #2313216 10:50AM 28/08/2005
Ivette: Why does she (Janelle) have so much luck?

James starts quoting from the Bible again.

BB: "The bedroom lights must remain on."

James: Sarah liked Janelle.

Ivette: I can't tell when she's serious.

Ivette leaves now.
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Topic #2313219
kaysar_and_janie - james and ivette complaining about janie, saying "consumed by greed and wealth." 0 Replies #2313219 10:51AM 28/08/2005
calling her messy. saying she's completely alone, 25 and has no friends. he has friends, janie doesn't. janie could win and have the money and be alone and miserable.

james says janie is consumed by greed and wealth. ivette asks why janie is lucky, then. james says in the bible it explains how wicked can prosper.

james says he doesn't know if he'll have a relationship with janie outside the house, says he's watching her like a science experiment. ivette says she doesn't know when janie is kidding.
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Topic #2313229
valentine - BB Warns the HG to Leave the Lights On. 0 Replies #2313229 10:52AM 28/08/2005
and everyone starts to get up in the HOH, complaining.

I guess Beau had some gas.

Maggie: Beau! You should really warn us. It's kind of an as*hole thing to do.

No response from Beau.
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Topic #2313232
scoobydoo - James talking about how Janelle always has to insert ethnicity in everything NT 0 Replies #2313232 10:52AM 28/08/2005
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Topic #2313244
kaysar_and_janie - james and evilette calling janie racist. james winding up evilette against janie. 0 Replies #2313244 10:54AM 28/08/2005
see posting from 08/28/05 04:31 AM:

When they were talking, Howie commented on how there were fewer dishes now that there were fewer HG's, then James

(I think) said something to the effect that "Well Janelle leaves enough dishes around for six people!" Then they sort of laughed about that and how she leaves them in every room she is in, and how many...

Howie then said "Yeah, she said they [NH] could be her servants" James picked right up on this, chuckling and saying "Really, she said that?" Howie elaborated saying how Janelle had said that "she pays her maid more than they make, they can come work for her"... [At that moment I had zero doubt that James was looking for just such a tidbit to take to the NH to incite them and get Janelle voted out in his place this week. Oh Howie... Note that, J did say these things back when both sides were shouting back and forth and tempers went unchecked. Out of context it will seem worse than it was, without the events and comments that precipitated hers...]

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